WHY BLOCKING IS USELESS! A Las Vegas Cop Issues a Challenge and Teaches Some Lessons
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- So you've mastered over 20 kinds of defensive blocks? Well, we hate to be the bearer of bad news, but those techniques may be futile.
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Best way block punch, no be there.
-- Mr. Miyagi
My instructor taught me that since day one. Blocking is a last resort. An oh s__t! moment.
If he dies he dies
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jamada d - Yes, if you are reasonably certain that the other guy is going to throw a punch (95% of the time its just big talk) then your best chance of coming out on top is to punch him first. Unfortunately however the law will not see it this way and unless you wait for him to throw the first punch you could end up in jail or on the wrong end of a lawsuit.
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I love what u showed me in this demo
if you can parry than do so right? that's what i learned in Longsword studies anyway
Very good explanation blocking and covering is both good, its what works for the person, and how the person is trained and which style he has, it is the style he is good at, used to, and works for him best, that is the style he will use
you really do NOT want to close the gap without control of atleast one arm, hence the block. i hope no one gets hurt using your methods
I thought this was a bald Gordon Ramsey lol
That's fucked up😂
FUCK! NOW I CAN'T UNSEE THIS SHIT
Ramsey is trash.
😂😂😂😂
I had to do a double take lol
This is the perfect technique for dealing with maniquins that dont want any trouble..
🤣
I agree with the guard the head at all cost, But fuck all this grab his arm and lock shit as if he wouldn't be resisting and still trying to punch your head in.
Tight guard protect the head move using angles and foot work, if there is an opening punch them in the head but don't stay around to keep on fighting, Unless you're ego gets the better and you want to test your luck.
"Tight guard, movement, hit only if needed, then run" the longer you stay in the situation the less chance you have at walking away free.
Most Self defence is a scam.
Or don't carry knives or not twenty pounds bigger than you or not 5 inches taller than you
Disagree...this good general advice.
It is not flawed in a general sense?...I do not agree that it is.
Just bc you can imagine particular examples where it might fail is not that same as bad general advice.
Exactly! All based on the guy throwing one telegraphed punch then standing still, who TF thinks this will work? Mat room fighting is not fighting.
You dodge when you can, block if you can't, and roll with the blow if you must. A block can reroute the velocity of the blow, and establish control over the assailant. He may be a cop, but I spent a decade in a violent prison with some volatile people. Without being able to block an unexpected blow, on several occasions I may have been overwhelmed by an opponent intent on causing me bodily harm. A true martial artist knows that any means of preserving ones self from injury is a good technique.
Sound advice you forgot to duck lol
@william gearles it sure can. Those are more advanced techniques. The premise of telling a novice that blocks are useless is setting them up for failure. Anyone thinking this is no martial arts expert.
Cop or not.
Agreed with all
Not everybody have the same reaction time you know.
@@TheN1ghtwalker That is true, but sparring with someone can help you get your reaction times up, also, if you don't react quickly, it can be really useful to learn where to look during a fight, most people look at the face, but looking at the hips or shoulders tells you a lot about what a person's going to do, providing you with a lot more time to respond once you get more proficient with reading people's movements.
blocking and covering, should be used interchangeable. Covering you take some damage, but you can't block every shot. Keep your chin down, and guard close, block what you see, cover when you're not sure you can block in time. This all happens in a split second with your adrenaline pumping. Don't over think it. Practice both techniques and you'll know exactly what technique to use when it's time to use it.
Your playing semantics, covering is just another term for blocking. The technique you showed is sukui uke, a widely used technique in traditional martial arts. Your just repackaging things that have been done 1000 times
King Alfred blocks and covers are not totally different techniques, but there is a difference between a boxing cover and a karate block, etc. Just like between different variations on a roundhouse kick.
King Alfred all martial arts are just repackaging 1% of Kung fu moves. So yeah. I agree.
wcropp1 - this isn't going to make sense to you or a lot of people but the word "uke" that karateka use for blocks doesn't mean to block. Uke means receive. Blocks really don't exist if executed properly. Uke is an offensive tactic of blending while attacking. These subtleties have been lost in the modernization of karate. I can only speak on karate because that's the martial art I practice
I think he was attacking Krav mags style of defense but he just didn't want to say it directly.. cause Krav Maga is the one I've seen the most that uses that style of defense
darthclone7 I agree. That is exactly what he was going at. “Krav” is the flavor of the month for a lot of police agency. I understand the marketing need to try a label something however a block (to me) is anything that stops the strike from hitting its intended target and/or vulnerable area. (Catches, parry’s, blocks, checks, etc) and now “covers.” So my only issue is that in packaging his terms he does what a number of traditional martial arts and especially Krav Maga sellers, they all like to tell you what will not work, which I have seen limits a students development.
But isn't what he call covering, what MMA, Muay Thai and boxing calls block???
Exactly
Anderson silva
In GOJU a block is a strike and to close the gap by going forward covering is the right move to do
A block is meant to stop a strike from reaching you, not softening the blow like covering does. You may be blocking the blow to the head or body, but you're still taking the full brunt of that strike through whatever is covering your head.
Handsome Longshanks Nice explanation! Seems like there is a very distinct difference.
To answer your question at 1:46. Lyoto Machida vs. Ryan Bader. Simultaneous defense and attack.
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Gavin Maximus there is no 1:46 you mean :46?
Gavin Maximus also Yoel Romeo (Just noticed during the Rockhold fight)
Heavyweight boxing you often see a big guy put his arm out there and jam/disrupt incoming shots.
The Diaz brothers as well
Aleksander Almas Yoel Romero is explosive and hits with great power, but he is not a technical fighter...his punches are often looping and non-technical as well, but effective due to the fact guy is a freak athlete...just because Yoel gets "long" with his defense and sloppy with his offense doesn't mean his coaches WANT him to do that...guarentee a lot of his camp focuses on sharpening fundamentals while still letting him be a freak athletically and stay aggressive...I completely respect Yoel, but he is hardly a technical example...great comment
This dude literally said “blocking doesn’t work” then proceeded to show blocking techniques. Covering is a form of blocking! That’s why it’s called a “cover-block”.
Taekwondo/ karate blocks don't work.
If you block you not really covering your face are you.. You just blocking... You didn't get it
The idea is using the block and rush forward with your elbow to strike his chest pushing him backward and then u do your lock. Blocking in this way will prevent your head from getting hit and they just can't attack your soft spot if you are all covered. And it's great because the elbow is shard and if giving it enough power, it hurts.
He said cover and create angles.... He's not parrying or blocking, he's covering and closing, then creating an angle relative to the person he was trying to control to gain a more dominant position, but hey go ahead and fight your fight and do you kitten.
I wasn’t getting on his technique. I was getting on his phrasing. Covering is still blocking gentlemen. It’s just a different type of block.
Very interesting! Whenever i have tried to block in street fights, my blocking arm would react quicker than the incoming punch and i missed the punch for being a mile to early ( punched in the face). I instinctively still try to block punches, but once i took wrestling lessons, its been 300x more effective to duck and tackle when a punch is incoming.
Anderson Silva utilizes blocks successfully, Urijah hall looks to be trying to inplement them into his game as well judging by some of his training footage. This is something that will evolve into the sport eventually just like lateral footwork has recently. I still think knowing how to cover is important and could be a lot more sophisticated as seen in this video, as well as being the best line of defence for beginners.
If you can develop the reaction time to slip a punch, you can develop the reaction time to block one. The problem is in countering off a block, as once you've blocked your opponent is going in for the second strike. It's more intuitive how to counter off of a slip as in order to have slipped the punch in the first place, you are outside of your opponents line of attack, giving you an opportunity to throw a strike that your opponent doesn't have.
The key to sucsessfuly block and counter is the simultaneous action of blocking and countering, it's more of a block-counter rather than a block and counter. You can block-counter a strike from far away, minimizing danger, however your counter will have a lot less power in it as there will be no hip twist. Blocking an incoming strike when it's closer is a little riskier, but you get to keep enough power to be effective.
FREESTYLE FIGHTING He was asking about professional career fighters and so I named two. What competition experience has Chuck Norris had? I imagine he's had some but I'm not sure. I know there was that old fighting orginization he founded (where the original MMA gloves came from that the UFC adopted in it's early days) that Wonderboy Thompson used to fight for way back in the day.
As for Bruce we don't have really any fight footage of him besides what came out recently, I suggest you check out The Weasle's breakdown of it. He left some to be desired but he was still ahead of his time, and the blocking proficiency he showed was ahead of our time. We still don't know the full extent of his Judo skills, but assuming he was able to defend against basic submissions I think he would have won UFC 1 if he had competed in it.
Do you have a fight clip or a specific fight/round/time wherein Anderson Silva blocks the way he describes successfully?
tydeusson There was this gif on r/MMA you can check out if you don't want to watch some of his fights, look up "Anderson Silva deflecting punches gif". Unfortunately he only started really commiting to his JKD / Kali (under the tutelage of Dan Innosanto, Bruce's original prodigy) towards the later end of his career when he was already low on testosterone and the USADA showed up (he should habe gone to Rizin FF when he had the chance, where steroids are not only legal but encouraged), much like how Conor dabbled in Capoeira but has yet to fully commit to it (check out some Marcus Aurelio if you want to see legit Capoeira in the MMA).
FREESTYLE FIGHTING Again, it wouldn't surprise me given the fact that he not only created a fighting organization but invented the first competition MMA glove. I take it his fights aren't hard to find online?
FREESTYLE FIGHTING I checked it out, point fighting, but fighting none the less.
I think that the person in this video is severely biased. It may be because they trained in bjj. Blocking is very useful, and the "basic" stance in boxing is a block (both hands up (I mean up as in they aren't just relaxed by the sides), protecting as much as possible ). Meanwhile, blocks/parries go unnoticed in sports like mma because they are usually followed by a riposte which makes it just look like an attack, and the covering that he's talking about is essentially the same as blocking, but it allows him to get in close where he can grapple. Nothing wrong with that fighting style, but saying that blocks/parries are useless is just plain wrong.
lastplace199 I thought the same. It seems he thinks legit traditional styles are meant to be applied clean and school-style-like but actually every application should and certainly will be an un-clean and compact version of what's been trained. Power blocks are also only designed for fully commited punches like haymakers and are supposed to be followed up instantly by an counter as quick as possible. A smart motion combines defense and offense in as little time/space/motions as possible. Like the shown active block in the video.
lastplace199 do you know of or can you point to any examples of professional boxing, mma, muay thai etc fighters using the blocks you are arguing here?
Also, the basic "block" in boxing you mention: hands up, chin tucked shoulders shrugged, this by the authors description is cover, not a block. The block/cover terminology could be vague or perhaps even argued because if a muay thai leg check is a block then your argument stands. It appears to me the meaning of the author is that standing arm blocks are largely useless in professional combat sports, a point i agree with unless you can provide a valid clip demonstrating mid to long range arm blocks successfully employed by a professional fighter.
tydeusson Orthodox boxing stance has your arms out from your body while the covers he describes has your arms pressed against the thing they are covering.
tydeusson ua-cam.com/video/ggxOHzlLllM/v-deo.html Watch Mayweather. He relatively consistently stops his opponents punches via parrying. The guy in the video above mentions parrying as a type of blocking.
He blocked his face by dabbing
keep it 1000 BWA Best comment ever!!
I knew someone had to have said it, i've been searching through the comments😂😂
KWalk Same. 😂😂
What works in one scenerio isnt gona work in a other you mean this is what you rely on you got someone who know how to fight your in trouble and yes you are blocking
Bas rutten blocks that way he even point it out when he breaks down his in ring fighting style $
He also implied that he blocked that way if he knows where the strike was coming from
Jake Strubar true . But I see this mans point ! Our level 1 -1 year of only shielding ( cover)
I would like to see Bas Rutten hitting this guy once XD (in my opinion he wouldn't be hospitalized he would be dead)
Yeah, he's a bad sum bitch
Bas never blocked like that in a fight maybe he did that in a video vs an assistant which means it was choreographed. I seen a video where he says if u block like that and your opponent kicks that can result in a broken arm
Blocking is wrong...cover your face and eyes is right
Wait. .🤔
covering still absorbs too much impact, blocking protects you from the attack and minimizes impact. Muay thai uses blocks, wing chun uses blocks, karate uses blocks...they are all proven martial art systems that do work
Someone attack you with a knife do you just cover, stand still or block? of course you will block...you can run away but lets say you're in a room that's locked with no where to run blocking is the most effective defense...
We are in agreement this time, it seems, anti-Chesus
Covering your face is not exactly practical but it does have it's advantages. Personally I don't think his method of ramming an opponent is very wise... it honestly just invites upper cuts and knees to the gut.. if you try to avoid that by leaning in, you direct the blows higher up. Which is worse. The other thing to note is that this would imply your officer would have to be trained to take blows to the gut or face. Personally I think you can incorporate more from a block. Joint manipulation is much more important In my honest opinion than getting to the side and telling him to get down and expect him to cooperate. I suppose in general it would work but I can still see the possibility of a much stronger person standing back up while you try to push his head down.
+George Dubios Blocking can be done from a variety of distances. But I agree; blocking and simultaneously countering is important. More important than anything, is distance, which is different for everyone.
George Dubois
Nothing wrong with blocking all the time. Floyd does it all the time. You just gotta have a purpose in mind like cutting to a better angle.
He: ''Who in the UFC blocks punches??" Me: ''FREAKING EVERYBODY!"
@RebelWolf anderson silvia actully blocks using wing Chung
@RebelWolf his last fight actuly with Israel adesayna homie why u wanna get on the Internet and dispute me if u dnt know shit
@@heckalydalii200 I saw that fight. The OP reminded me of it, but I couldn't remember which one it was.
That fight was... frustrating.
I have to agree with most people here. What this cop essentially did was use was a form of blocking but he just called it 'covering' lol. He was just using a simpler, more compact form of blocking.
Covering: your arms come to you.
Blocking: your arms go to him.
Changing angle can nullify a block, but covered is covered.
Everyone's a smartass. I know. Just trying to be a good Roman.
Yes true. And cops rarely fight one on one. When they do by making a mistake they usually lose.
@@dennisgoe3537 you got some data to back that up?
"Space is a friend of NASA, and the guy defending" LOL
I’m no expert but i feel that as soon as a knife shows up this just ends with slashed arm tendons. Blocking a punch might not be worth it but blocking a knife is definitely worth it. And with what I know of historical European martial arts I have a theory on why the ideas in the vid are a bit off. He is assuming the block/counter is a 2 tempo system (one move then the other) when it is actually one tempo and both moves happen at the same time.
grilin18 I made a comment similar to this as well, and I think you may be right. In boxing, it doesn’t really make sense to block. Covers and parries are a lot more efficient/effective. But you can’t keep taking cuts to the arms for very long, so you kinda have to commit to some sort of a block/jam maneuver into a 2 on 1 or some other arm control. And the tempo definitely matters. A two beat parry-riposte is too slow against a motivated attacker with a shiv. Action vs. reaction, initiative and all that.
If you are so close that you have to cover yourself from a blow, there is no way you are going to get your gun out in time to take a shot. Any attempt at using a firearm at close range successfully means you are aware if the treat, you have already pulled your weapon, you have already scanned the background to make sure you can shoot, etc. etc. If you are in the perfect scenario, then all is well. If you caught in an imperfect scenario, then stopping an incoming blade takes precedence at the ranges shown in this video.
true that
grillin18 knife defense is different...and both should be moving at the same time...
exactly... most relevant comment here..one fluid motion "be the water"
You would have real problems with this style if you run into anyone who knows how to throw hooks and upper cuts.
yeah, that's usually where blocks, parries, and dodging come in, not to mention that he's blocking his own vision and not really doing much to shift the momentum of the fight, anybody experienced would exploit that in seconds.
Go ahead and throw the uppercut, the guy is on your back by that time.
@johnny walker That's so apt I'm crying.
"We're dealing with a suspect on a person stop" = "I have no probable cause but I'll be a shit to this rando until he gets annoyed and that's my probable cause"
"Here's my *bad guy*, I'm *interviewing* him. "Turn around and put your hands behind your back"."
"He moved his foot so I knew he was totally gonna punch me"
And of course the inevitable, which doesn't come up in this video but it's the real life: "I had to draw and shoot him because after I stepped forward to punch him, he was close enough to take my gun and shoot me if he wanted to."
Cop has ego, starts fight, kills guy, 2 weeks paid leave, paperwork, repeat until pension. Expects unquestioning idolization.
Actually still blocking, just using a different part of the body
If you watched a single fight in the MMA you would see that "blocking" is exactly how you start having real problems. Professional fighters always cover their faces. You dont see any boxer or MMA fighter blocking punches. Thats how you get knocked out. And they are fighting against the best fighters in world who definitly know how to throw hooks and upper cuts.
So guys, title was click bait. What martial artists from all disciplines call blocking, this guy calls covering and he admits it’s the right way.
Trying to stick your arm out to block a shot is what he calls blocking, which is like common sense, of course. I mean you at least think it would be, but people do still try to block like this in street fights.
And by the way don’t come at me with the “but Karate fighters stick their arms out to block” because you’re wrong, those are called “Uke”, coming from the Japanese word “Ukeru” which means “to receive”, meaning they stick their arm out to misdirect the strike, not to block it. Which does work, of course.
Bro Im comin at you with: Tae Kwon Do forms have a lot of exactly the blocking he demonstrated as being impractical for his purposes. (Which is more accurate than saying "blocking is useless" but also less likely to get clicks)
It's click bait probably fixed before the video.
I agree it's click bait.
You just saved me adding the "uke" misconception, so thank you. The problem is, many perceive the kihon (or basic) forms of "blocking" (using the common translation) as the way they are used in reality. Whereas, these are simply blue prints to develop coordination and learn principles. Everything starts big and expansive to also provide safety and ease of development. Later in training, everything gets closer and more raw so to speak; the reaction becomes a deflection or cover and the "block" becomes a strike or counter. I usually suggest people look at kihon ippon kumite in karate and compare senior practitioners to earlier stage practitioners and analyse the difference in minset and understanding.
Admittedly, the problem i see in karate (and other traditional martial arts) is that many teachers fail to make the move or explanation from kihon into reality.
Thank you for saving my time 💯
This dude is really good at fighting people who don’t move and throw punches at 10 percent speed.
@Josue Rodriguez damn, I left a comment a year ago and I finally got a reply 👍 sick. Also, The video is about not blocking. It’s not about what would happen if you go to the ground.
Hey buddy.. here’s your second reply😆… say that same thing to his 3x FS champion, 5x Naga champion, 21x 1st place, 23x 2nd place, 3 naga swords, and his 60+ super black belt fights.
He has to dumb it down in videos for the viewer to see what he means, it’s your choice to go full speed with a training partner
@@akxyl1497 Buddy this dude is showing less realistic tactics that most martial arts even ridiculous ones like aikido. All this guy is going to do is get someone killed and make money for it
@@akxyl1497 Show me any proof this guy has done any of that lol.
@@akxyl1497 i do not get why everyone thinks everything should be demonstrated at full speed all the time
so what do you call George Foreman's style? where he'd CONSTANTLY reach out and stuff guy's punches before they could punch him?
Very true, I mentioned it as well. There was quite a bit of that from Ali against Foreman as well. It was an iconic fight where two of the best hand strikers in the world used these techniques with millions of dollars at stake. And the entirety of Anderson Silva was a master class in blocking, parrying, use of Bong Sau and hand traps.
Staying home is a good block
Hahahahahaha², you killed me. xD
Hehe good one
tom8181 and there’s chips
good one 😂😂😂😂
Not always. Ever heard of home invasions. Lol
@2:14 many fighters block or catch punches. Quick example watch Rampage vs Silva 3. Rampage blocks two hooks then fires a KO on Silva. Mma fighters block ground and pound shots all the time. They also often block kicks.
Great point, the man on the bottom HAS to block so he can try and trap the hands and attempt to bridge out of the mount. Covering gets you pounded even more and limits your options from the bottom. Good Observation.
EXACTLY! He was like ''Who in the UFC blocks punches??" And I was like ''FREAKING EVERYBODY!"
Why my mans be lookin like deadpool without his mask LMFAOAOAOOA
I'm fucking dying. 😂😂😂😂
Hahahahaa I cant unsee it
Almost every single fight, be it the UFC, Bellator etc. they block punches. Blocking slips and parries are basic boxing techniques. I agree with some of the points he made. But with firearms involved space is your best ally. Always make space to use your tools ie your pistol. When he closed in the “perp” was way to close to the “officers” firearm. Most embarrassing thing is to be shot by your own weapon.
Edit: also nowadays closing in on a person is super dangerous with all the BJJ and mma “trainers” And a strong opponent will more than likely slam you.
Muzzleflash you’re right, in general, but if someone is ambushing you from 3 feet away sometimes you have to get up close and personal to prevent yourself being stabbed or having your draw fouled and the gun taken from you, etc. Basically, you need enough time to actually access your weapons and use them before they’re on top of you, so this can make sense from typical conversational distances.
wcropp1 a good rule of thumb is never be within arms reach of a possible threat. In basic training and also special ops training they teach you to gain distance using a very basic but violent and effective strike(head butt, groin strike, knee etc.) and use whatever weapons/tools you have at your disposal. Tim Kennedy has an awesome video showing this exact point.
This isn’t the exact video I was referring to, but basic enough.
ua-cam.com/video/4Zq2fWI6LRA/v-deo.html
DragonSlayer2014 thanks. Appreciate it
Not talking about firearms... 20 years of MMA to include boxing, wrestling, muay thai, bjj, and the such at big gyms coaching guys who fight for a living (my guys actually fight in the UFC and Bellator) and we do slip, parry, cover, move...but we don't block...although it could be semantics if we define a block differently ...as for getting close, it is part of the job...most police interactions are at arms reach and if I want to search or handcuff you we are touching...as for my gun, yea, that would be embarrassing, but since I already covered distances in police work we also train weapon retention...but this video is not about that...it is about simple punch defense...thanks for the comment
basically replaced the word block with cover
''Cover'' is like ample and passive defense, ''block'' is more like try intercept before the punch hit the target
Thank you.
an old man beat two gun men with a steel base ball bat, he survived the bullet wounds and he said the bullets missed any vitals so they weren't too deadly, it all depends on how things play out, the element of surprise is best, self defense can only be done with the element of surprise, the opponent should not predict what you will do to defend otherwise he beats you. the suspect won't know your technique so you have to surprise him fast and quick and read the situation well.
@Moon Sun blocking is whatever you make it when the situation arises.
This is stupid lol
Cover is a form of blocking,
No, no there is not differences. Covering, is a form of blocking. Just as OP said.
He's basically advocating for shelling up and moving forward. It's blocking.
It's called blocking,boxing trainer's tell there fighter to cover up,block🤔😕
yup a block is basically anything that stops an attack from hitting the intended location, if you cover your chin from being hit its a block
Duh......
My kids and I were attacked by a nut job with a machete after he broke into my home. I had no weapon, but I did have MA skills. I blocked and parried as many strikes as possible. I was injured and bleeding badly, but managed to block and retrieve the weapon (divine intervention) this of course changed everything. I lost a lot of blood and I had a hole in my skull, a finger hanging off and deep cuts in my forearms, but I was alive.
My kids (very young at the time) had nothing on their feet. With glass everywhere from the break in, I expected cuts, but nothing. Though at ages 5 & 6 they needed 2 years of trauma therapy. This happened early in the morning whilst we were sleeping. My wife was in hospital after giving birth to our third child - thank goodness she was. We awoke to loud bangs as the front door was kicked in. The police arrived (6 cars and a van) the neighbours called the police after hearing the break in and children screaming.
He was sectioned under the mental health act for 11yrs. Apparently in court he said God told him to do it.
It is interesting to note that some people or their istructors agree with my arguments. Here is an example of a real life experience: At the time when I was living in the U.K. there were nightly brawls outside pubs or night clubs. If one of the brawlers fell to the floor, then 4 or 5 up to that moment "innocent bystanders" would move in and kick him in the face as hard as they could. So much for ground grappling skills
From the UK. seen it been in it many a time.
Your statement is irrelevant. No martial art effectively deals with multiple attackers. Not BJJ, not TKD... only GTFO.
My point is not made on dealing with multiple attackers, but with what will ensue, in my experience, when you fall to the ground in a street fight. If you read my comment carefully I clarify that 4 or 5 upto that moment sheer onlookers joined in to kick you AFTER YOU HAD FALLEN TO THE FLOOR. My point, as stated elsewhere, is that once you have fallen down you are effectively doomed.
Various instructors and my father drilled this into me as they were all experienced in real life situations and they didn't want their students thinking the street is like the gym. The idea of going to the ground in a street fight is the absolute last thing anyone should ever teach, that is unless you have only one opponent and no one else is around. Run like fuck was always the advice I was given when facing multiple people, after that I was told to do something brutal and visually shocking to one of them in the hopes of scaring the others, past that it was just trying to keep your distance and control positioning so they block one another. Ultimately I was told to understand that I'm very likely to get my arse kicked in such a situation so it's best to try and avoid it to begin with. That final point comes down to being aware of your surroundings, the general mood of the crowd, being ready to hit the exit etc.
All wise advice. If you read my comments elsewhere below this video you will see that I absolutely see eye to eye with you on these points
The thing that gets me is trying to realize which “cover” to use is also time lost, just like the other technique. Also the notion of covering your view completely and almost blindly running into the guy carries major issues. Figuring out how he’s attacking and where from to be able to cover correctly and then move into him (blind) may take just as long as the blocking technique does scanning where the punch is coming from..someone trained could step aside and trip you making you look really stupid at the start of the interaction. Confidence is huge. Would like to see both pressure tested. Pros and cons to both, but your right about paid fighters not using the “block” as you describe it
Practice .You have to put your self in that situation when you train. Go through drills where you have to defend your self in differnt senarios. that's when you figure it out. Burn your gaurd into your muscle memory. When put into a a real world scenario you won't have to think or figure it out. Your reaction will be natural and fluid. The cover is only there to shield your head. Your eyes shouldn't be covered. Its not blindly running into the oppent. The technique is designed to close distance and imidatley put the oppent into a defensive postion by taking control of the head /neck and arm.
Michelangelo brah, in the street it's not like a MMA fight where you have time to figure out their technique, One punch to the head is enough to knock you out. while you're still trying to figure out his style he's stomping on your head after you've fallen on the ground.
Protect your head at all cost, If you train boxing,MMA or muaythai they will teach you too keep a tight guard in which you can still see through, whilst teaching you not to close your eyes as you're getting hit.
Best way to defend yourself, practice someone punching you in the head very lightly as you guard up, this way you learn to keep a tight guard and stop flinching whilst keeping your eyes open at all times.
I train muaythai, and it's human nature to flinch and close you're eyes. Practice someone punching you in the head very softly, while you keep a tight guard focus on the opponent use foot work to create an angle to move out of the way and run.
I see so many beginners trying to copy pro fighter like Mcgrefor and Israel Adesanya, it's like brah, they're professional, and I guarantee they were all taught at as a beginner, protect your head and have a right guard, it's only through 1000's of hrs training and experience they fight how they do, and I guarantee if they were on the street, they too would refer too tight guard and move.
Watch Amateur Fights, guaranteed the one with a better defence nearly always wins
Bald guy has good intentions and this stuff works great in MMA and on the street just so there aren't any weapons like a knife or a ball point pen and if there aren't other people and if the other guy isn't bigger/stronger or whacked out on drugs. If the opponent is bigger/stronger or equally as strong clinching creates a muscle on muscle battle and if someone grabs my arm I'm going to immediately demobilizing them by stomping or the foot or breaking the leg/knee. Hanging out close to attackers is NOT a good idea on the street. He's only partly correct about space being the enemy. You either want a lot of space or no space, but there is more to it than that. You always want to assume he has a weapon and that he has other hidden weapons and that his spit/saliva is poisonous. So you want to go to what they call the "dead angle" in jiujitsu, it's like the Goldilox distance, not too far/not too close... just right.... its' the angle about 45 degrees from the side, it's like taking the back but not quite to the back... He'll be OK with this stuff in the gym and most of the time on the street but the one time he does this and the guy has a screwdriver or a hammer in the other hand he's dead on the spot. The moves he's learned from MMA are just an adaptation of centuries old jiujitsu techniques slightly modified for the ring where there are rules, no weapons, a referee, a cage, and a padded floor, and witnesses/cameras and that's what they are good for and only that. MMA is giving people the wrong idea about self defense because it works great 99% of the time, it's that 1% of the time that will get you killed using sport MMA techniques like clinching and covering in the street. Don't try this yourself.
The thing is: you see an action from the other guy--> use your ONE trained cover and crash in. That is very quick (hicks hyman law) an good for many attacks.
@@VenturaIT You saying you’d stomp a foot as means of disabling someone shows you can’t fight
Watch any mma fight when a fighter slings a head kick from the side. The other fighter will BLOCK the strike using his forearm to protect his head.
SAGGIN WAGGIN Against head kicks i agree blocks are used but often result in broken wrists and forearms. Though i think the point of the video was to train muscle memory on what is unquestionably functional. The cover techniques described in the video are STAPLES of professional combat sports. Arm blocks even against head kicks are partially effective at best, but just the same you make a good point with head kicks.
He gave the people a challenge. He said mma fighters don’t block.
tydeusson the title clearly says blocking is useless. Which is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard from a fighting stand point. Sometimes you can only react with a parry or block. Take boxing for an example, when you’re stuck on the ropes your are told to block your head and upper torso with your gloves and forearms till you can counter or slip away. BLOCKING IS NOT USELESS PERIOD.
SAGGIN WAGGIN no he did not. He said "show me a fighter that does this" and he proceeded to block punches by extending his arm out in front. His challenge was to show a fighter successfully doing THAT, not generically blocking. The challenge still stands.
SAGGIN WAGGIN the "blocking" you do when crowded or against the ropes is by definition the "cover" he is describing. The arguments over this video can easily turn into arguments about terminology and not about techniques that really work.
4:00
Space is not my friend.
Space is a friend of NASA and the person defending.🤣👌🏻
While the material is good, you guys need to tone down on your arrogance. You're simply blocking using good techniques, and compare them to bad techniques. No need to call blocking useless, because you're essentially blocking too. No need to make it seems like you invented the wheel to make yourself some sorts of innovator, you're not.
Cloak Dagger lol how can they? There asshole cops.
Exactly to say useless is imbecilic...use less is valid, but useless discredits them to all but the newbs and mutts.
Amen
im sorry but everything he categorized as useless is just that, damn near useless. To put your hands away from your face to block a shot going right towards it is imbecilic at best. He does seem to make it sound like hes inventing a new concept but i think he does this so that people with no martial arts experience can understand exactly whats so different. If you dont want to get rocked, COVER your damn head.
It gets views, and he makes his point. If you actually watch the video it's pretty clear what he means.
I'll name you a few Lyoto Machida Anderson Silva the both actively block with their left hand while striking a quick right while the opponent's coming in which usually knocks the opponent out and has quite a few times
I was looking for this coment. That's it, bro. Lyoto, Silva and others!
Yup, Lyoto blocked Bader and KOed him doing pretty much exactly what this guys says doesn't work. Granted most people didn't grow up in a karate dojo with their dad a master sensei and don't have the lifetime of training, so it works well for Lyoto but other people might be better off slipping or covering.
Notice the difference between blocking a bare fist and a fist covered with a glove. Good luck trying to block two straight jabs or a one two combo with your forearms on the street
That's because Sensei Seagal trained Anderson Silva ha ha
@@ChuppaChuck you familiar with pugilism? Before fancy gloves were a thing, bare knuckle boxing or pugilism was the prize sport, and many of the manuals written by the greats of their day call for exactly that, in addition to reaching out and parrying blows. This is because you couldn't cover up with big pillows strapped to your hands like today. It is a very different and more pure form of the sport
Rampage Jackson blocks while he's knocking you out with the other hand, on the counter. He's done it in countless fights.
The Infinite Corner same with Lyoto Machida and Anderson Silva ... lyoto knocks people out great with that move quick left block with right strike at the same time to the chin as they're coming in they don't even see it coming
Yeah you guys are right, they should maybe change the title because it's not useless but rather less safe and or effective.
a strike delivered in combination with a block will win the day every time
Beautiful, just beautiful demonstration of something that looks practical. I was in a number of fights as a youngster and you are 1000% correct: you don't have time to think or be fancy in a real fight. Also appreciated your "soapbox" challenge about people who are paid to fight using fancy schmancy blocking moves: they don't! Never looked at it that way. Also, since this is coming from a cop used to dealing with real-world situations, these are tips I can trust. Been watching a bunch of these lately and this one is--by far--the best. Subbed!
Well done sir! I retired from corrections and in 28 years worth of gaining compliance from inmates that is the best advice in close quarters altercations I have seen. You NEVER want to give the space to punch. I have learned most guys can do it a whole lot better than you think they can. Go to the ground stay close and get your knee between the shoulder blades with all your weight. I have tussled with some big dudes and I don’t care how strong you are you can not get up from that position. Can’t move,can’t fight. Same way with a baton they teach you fancy swings but when it comes down to it use it any way you can. Thanks again for the video!
This is a demonstration on how to handle a situation, knowing that you have back up and they will help you subdue a subject.
How so? Once he is in the position at 4:55 he has high percentage take downs if his goal is to control and is in position to lock in a single collar tie and blast the other guy with knees. Sure this is a cop approach to dealing with punches and is focused on position and control rather than doing damage, but position and control allow you to hit take-downs, joint locks and unanswered strikes.
Definitely a Law Enforcement based situation/approach. It could be applied if the officer is waiting for reinforcements, but not likely to work so well after 5 seconds in some neighborhoods.
Have to disagree, with a belt full of weapons, closing into arms reach is A HORRIBLE IDEA. Break contact and gain superiority with baton/taser/OC if unarmed, or sidearm if the BG has a weapon...
That will also get him killed if the knife in the attacker's hand did not which he did not see and thought it was just a fist.
Everyone has a plan until they are punched in the face - Mike Tyson
Crazy I see people blocking in MMA and Boxing. Where is this guy coming from?
It seems to be a semantic distinction. Someone throws a swinging punch at me. If I'm on my game I'll raise my elbow outward and jam it. If I don't have time, I'll just raise my elbow above my head and let the blow catch on my arm. These are still blocks, sorry.
Say "blocking" sucks use "cover" and make money on a new system...
Matt D, nailed it.
hes simply repackaging situational awareness and close blocking pared with agressive distance closing and inside techniques to get control and submission.
Yeah... also punching is useless, you need you use fist strikes.
Covering is not blocking how? The only time you are not blocking is if you are leaving yourself open to be hit. Although against inexperienced ppl (which luckily for you the majority are) these techniques will work fine but blocking your own vision is never a good idea.
robert sowers...I can still see under, through, around the cover...similar to seeing around cover and shooting in a gunfight...I will need to acquire the target under, around, or over the piece of cover to engage...similar concept...
This guy has clearly never seen the thousands of Muay Thai fights where fighters successfully use long guard blocks against punches and then counter with elbows, knees and kicks
yeah but the probability of a cop fighting a professional Muay Thai fighter on the streets is very rare.
Exactly! You can block with an extended arm so that you can immediately grab the back of their head and clinch up, start throwing knees
police have to attempt to subdue opponent. their goals are different than self-defense. this is why he's doing what he's doing. can't just leg kick a criminal into submission, it''s not authorized use of force...
@@haad999 1:45 "Email me one guy that does this in a cage or ring for money"
He is just flat out says no professional fighter uses them because they dont work - which is a lie
It works in the ring with gloves. On street you don't want hands to stick out too far since it can be grab and bad think can happen. My variable option for street fight is dodge, pivot, lean-back or altogether. This is why it's hard to sucker punch boxers or MT fighters. I don't think human can react to an unknown punch fast enough to block it, unless we know ahead like in this police train'g.
Better title for this video: Entry to clinching and standing control.
He got me at 2:00 because that is so true. People don't do half of the crap they teach and you can't use it in a real fight.
He’s still blocking with his “cover”.
@Conspiracy Nut
Yes I agree. Shall we say Both types of protection can be in the category of 'Shield' like using a shield...
@Conspiracy Nut that kind of "blocking" is called parrying., and cover is blocking.
In which case sometimes when you wanna block, you extend or wonder where punches are going to be Thrown. And by just wondering it can lead to being punch in the face by simply not knowing where the punch is going he teaches the most effective way to I guess “block” a punch without really extending your arms leaving one side of your face wide open.
Although parrying in the street fight is not effective if you are going against an aggressive fighter.
Idiot
Excellent control! For those who can't see that, start training a wide variety of martial arts. I see alot of grappling, clinching, angles and really opens up the opponent for strikes or joint locks.
Well I dont think this is true, blocking is useful when you're trained enough to break when you block. So...........idk what your talking about man. An example was anderson silva snapping his leg when weidman blocked his kick.
Oh shit , I remember that , poor Anderson Silva .
You can really tell the people who have never been attacked by another person before by their comments. This is accurate and proper training. These people bringing up weapons, don't understand what is happening here. If a suspect has a weapon in this attacking stance, you know it and they lead with it. Good job guys, nice tutorial and you are absolutely 100% correct.
Thanks for the comment....
Says blocking is useless... proceeds to demonstrate a blocking technique as an "alternative"... smh
it seems you didn't get it
Explain... or are just running your mouth with nothing to back it up?
Blocking is when you stop a punch with counterforce. He covers himself and aborbs it with his arms. Huge difference. Not a block
actually, I was going to but the Kieron did it, so yeah. But I have to add that, blocking is a waste of time an energy. This guy keeps the attack while defending, so, he es not just "stoping" a punch like when blocking. He keeps going forward
Kieron Edwards Covering up or guarding is still a form of blocking. Blocking is obstructing the strike from reaching its goal. You're playing the semantics game, but essentially this is just another block
3:01 *dabbing intensifies*
laughing my ass off :D
And this is why it's worth reading through the comments lolololol!!!
TACTICAL DABBING
There’s “blocking” in a static, basic form to get a foundational understanding on how to stop attacks, then there’s “blocking” in a real fight scenario where it focuses on efficiency over how it looks
Hmmm...with 33 plus years in Martial Arts, I have successfully blocked both punches and kicks. Hell I have even had to cover on occasions to keep from being hit. When in a real fights you must loss your form and be fluid which includes punches, kicks, blocks, covers, head butts and instinct. I won't say this guy is wrong, just not my opinion to survive an attack.
I have 60 years experience in martial arts. I been in 3000 street fights. Never been defeated. I can fly over my opponent if i flap my arms hard enough
@@peteramarillo8952 Wow, I will try flapping my arms really hard and give that a try next time :/
@ Peter Amarillo LOL and the beauty of your comment is most people reading it will think you are being sarcastic.
@@jonspencer1219 You are on another level of stoned if you think he isn't.
@XChikuX Drugs are for losers.
Running your head into your opponents fist seems counter productive. Also, people don't just block and stand there, most fighting techniques involve a counterstrike or grapple almost immediately/simultaneously.
It would be the same thing they just showed in the video but instead of blocking with your forehead then grapple, you actually block then grapple.
dantedamean - time. For that moment when blocking, you're burning time and giving the opponent time and distance = more time to react.
Closing distance while covering gives them multiple inputs to process and contend with, giving you the advantage.
Think application as well. Poor weather at night this still has to work for the LEO. Feeling what your opponent is doing is more reliable than trying to see it.
Peter Moore great comment
Peter Moore if you train properly it doesn't matter what the condition, it will be reflex.
As far as your opponent getting distance, you obviously missed the point of my comment. A block technique would be no different in timing than what is shown. Only difference is you don't help your attacker by running head first into their fist.
dantedamean , people do not train how they would actually fight. Unless you're doing full contact sparring you're not being truthful with yourself. Drills are no good, if you train drills and combinations you are setting yourself up for failure the moment the opponent doesn't act how you trained. Anyone in a fight has to work with what is presented to them, you don't decide how you're going to finish a fight when it starts. That opportunity may never present itself.
With respect to time and what's happening in the video, he's not using his head as a target for the punch, its a recognition that if distance is closed and a strike comes your way, you're not going to be able to assess and react to perform an effective block. You simply don't have the time. So, protect the vitals and move, closing the distance and regain the initiative.
Peter Moore if you honestly trained and have pushed yourself, you wouldn't be saying that. I'm sure you're going to come back with some internet commando triple black belt military police jujitsu master claim, so I'll just leave it at this:
I was just pointing out that it seems dumb to train yourself to noise dive into someone's fist. It's the same principal of why you never hand someone back the knife/gun while training. Blocking is effective, that's why a wide range of martial arts incorporate it. If you actually train properly and push yourself things like reacting and blocking will be second nature. You won't even realize what you did until it's over.
I like this Guys info. Very to the point and with very good detail in execution: Also I like how sincerely and humbly apologetic he is when he contacted his assistant. Accidents happen, what made this oversight acceptable is that he gave his assistant respect and did man up with an apology. This is an instructor I would want to study from. Great vid, Greater Instructor, Even Greater Assistant to hanging tough.
Agreed. The training is realistic & PRESSURE TESTED (the only thing that's useful). When I practiced cuffing and getting cuffed, we'd also torque the cuffs when people were non-compliant. To me? It felt so painful that I assumed no one would voluntarily resist that pain-compliance tactic, and would comply with reasonable commands (give me your other hand, not, _stop moving while my dog chews on you_ ...).
But some people clearly have massive pain tolerance and just _will _*_not_*_ give up that other hand._ I don't know for a fact the cops struggling with said teeeeens en route to doctor school's wrists were being torqued by the cuffs, but one would assume _all cops know & apply_ (by default) that pain-compliance technique. Whether I'm wrong to assume that or those people have unimaginable pain tolerance (to ignore a lever arm of metal-on-bone) ... the fight's often not over there.
PS, in addition to his humility ... his accomplice is a badass, and I'd imagine a little tap to the face isn't a foreign feeling to him.
Where the head goes the body will follow. This is how we are taught in pedro sauer gracie jiu jitsu curriculum. Block with using cover then into t position.
Yes correct professional fighters do not block like that, meaning they do not reach out to receive strikes of which they are standing out of threatening range, with zero body movement and zero counter-attack.
Pro fighters are just that , there not fighting for there lives , a trained artist in real life would definitely use blocks and then break arms and immobilize them. Etc yes you can block like a boxer but in real life with no rules you have to use all options. Plus ever heard a strike is a block and block is a strike a good blocker will destroy an untrained fighter to the point the person would not want to throw down!
I'm sceptical when the instructor is reacting to an aggressor who isnt using BOTH hands in the fight. That's unrealistic. If you're getting a better angle and controlling one of his arms I doubt his left arm is just going to be dangling there limp waiting on something to do. And who knows what that other arm is capable of weather it means grabbing your gun or taking out a weapon of their own.
Davey PRP That’s a sign you’re not training enough.
Sure, left hand controls the hip/ body, sets up the throw on the forward moving defender. Draws a weapon, or potentially has his target in half guard ready to do damage. Whatever someones doing, theres always a counter. The vid is talking about the movement of a chess piece, not the layout of the whole board.
Oh man, this is insanely logical! I've been learning blocks in martial arts for years, but I never felt fast enough to really block what was coming my way. Cover and advance it the answer! Thanks for the great video. Any thoughts on parry for inside attacks, like jabs and crosses?
Slips and bridges do work if your in the moment but covers are the last line of defence, the hands infront of his face slipping back to his head are good since it covers the back of his head, side and front and you can alternate if opponent is swinging left and rights systematically. You just have to find the right moment to engage the target with whatever skills you have up your sleeve. Timing is crucial ..
@@dotdot2723 instead of working on the technique of the punch you must increase your timing when doing so... if you can cover yourself to protect against it...you can block it brother....keep your opponent at least at arms length...until your ready to strike
@@tatumergo3931 yes I have learnt a similar technique myself. Not sure if I would use it irl though..
@@tatumergo3931 i'll try to keep it short & sweet for simplicity. I don't know the name of it but
The one I got taught was this sort of rhino/spear move. You half crouch. Place your palm on the back of your head with your elbow facing forward. Aim for opponents stuernem and charge hopefully hitting it 😅
(I've been "lightly" struck and it hurts)
"space is a friend of NASA and the person defending" I liked that line:). and this had some smell of real life tough.
Ok so first of all, the obvious point. Covering for a hook is reasonable, with the other techniques he showed, you covered your eyes. Big no no. Every split second you can’t see your opponent is an opportunity for them, even more for someone who has done any martial art at all.
Second of all, your technique relies on moving in to the opponent as they are punching. That takes a lot more time to do, and if you don’t time it perfectly you will either move into their punch or allow them to grab you.
Thirdly, In Krav Maga, for example, you will learn to simultaneously defend (with a proper inside or outside block, depending on the strike) and counter attack. There’s no way you are going to do that if you waste both of your available weapons covering your eyes in the hope that you can absorb that punch. The controlling of the arm is a good idea if you do get the opportunity but generally blocking is a quicker, easier and much smarter option.
I’d say ducking the punch leaving them exposed and off-balance is best.
So what would you tell someone that is blind? Sorry, can't help you learn martial arts because you can't see... LOL
@@Nickster188
Yup, if you can pull it off.
After years of training, I find it a reflex action to block ,,,,,,,,,,,, and block,,,, and block
The funny thing with this is that at the higher levels, traditional martial arts don't really emphasize blocks as "blocks" or seperate techniques from strikes. Strikes and blocks are supposed to flow into one another just as your defense should become your offense and vice versa.
Yet a lot of martial arts lost this aspect. I think the terms really become a stumbling block (lol) as we learn. Breaking down the mental barriers we use with words is good.
Tournaments and Olympics killed traditional martial arts. Those in the know need to bring it back to its purposeful form.
@@danielbailey8889 I used to get in trouble for "cut blocking" in tournaments all the time. Like using an inner block as a hammer fist to the inside of your opponents arm. Don't know why it's frowned upon, that is the purpose. Low block as an outer forearm strike to the inside of the leg etc...
@@Johnny1angry1Johnny exactly the way they were ment to be used everything is supppsed to be a weapon especially in okinawan styles.
Many so called traditional martial arts won't work in many street situations. Many of them are brain washed into thinking that Katas/Forms work on the street. They do Not. Lol
@@dennisgoe3537 Always depends on the practitioner. I don't use katas in street fights but I still practice them daily. The thing is to practice them with full snap and full sharp pivots. As if you were being judged for every ounce of effort and motion. Now those moves in the kata become crisp and powerful. Then when in a street fight, don't chain the kata or do the dance but as an opening arises in an opponents defense you can use the move that fits from one of the katas, at that point you use that move and not the whole kata. I was on TeamUSA for Taekwondo and have won many tournaments and street fights as well, you just have to train to be fast and powerful but then be open minded enough to know what will and won't work.
Yes I understand the concept. This is not a technic for actual "fighting" like in ring fighting, but more for actually real life encounters where you're not trying to fight someone toe to toe like you would in a ring but take someone out defensively while using the other persons attack against them in order to shut them down. Makes sense.
I am a Sith Lord and just like the other experts here, I think Chad Lyman is wrong. He should just use a Force Lightning and kill the attacker.
daniel280456 You obviously know the power of The DORK Side, no, that's not misspelled.
Police Force Lightning!
4:07 He says "... I'm blocking". And in 5:49 he deflects the strike over his head
"Space is a friend of NASA and the person defending" - Chad Lyman, 2018
Lmao
As someone who knows how on-field police works, I vouch to this. Police aims to seize suspect immediately, as oppose to win or KO someone. Thus, covering is a better option than blocking.
Good video but I have to disagree. Cover is good but sometimes blocking is better when dealing with punch not knowing if the attacker has small weapon like a knife. In that adrenal state, you wouldn't know you got stab until after the fact. That why keep good distance is important.
Narrison Babao very true.👍🏼
“NAME one guy who blocks like this? Anybody?!”
Answer: Steven Seagal
**CHECKMATE**
Anyone that doesn't want to cut or stabbed
Seagal can handle himself.
My problem with the block rush is the other hand can have a knife.
GREAT (and realistic ... PRESSURE TESTED) ADVICE. When I practiced cuffing and getting cuffed, using them (torquing them) felt like NO ONE would want to resist commands once you integrated wrist-controls with cuffs. But some people clearly have massive pain tolerance and just will not give you their other hand. Of course, in those videos I don't know that cops struggling with kind teeeeens on their way to doctor school's wrists are for a fact getting torqued by the cuffs, but, one would assume all cops know how to apply that _pain-compliance_ technique, and would just do it by default. Either I'm wrong to assume that or those people have obscene pain tolerance to ignore that leverage of metal-on-bone.
His accomplice also is clearly a badass.
I'm waiting for the follow-up video titled why you might get knifed up using these techniques
I don't fight much but would this work in real life? A lot of these drills are done in slow motion but in real life it seems like the attacker will move too quickly to allow such grappling techniques on himself...
Well typically demonstrations like this will be done slowly to allow viewers the ability to see the various mechanics that go in to it. This would then be the starting point of learning, after each student was able to show proper technique the next step would be practicing against someone using a standard set of action to start developing muscle memory and probe for any mistakes in the technique. After a period of this you then start to speed everything up to adjust muscle memory for live speed. Then you start adding variable by allowing the attacker to perform other attacks so that the learner can learn to respond accordingly.
A technique as simple as this would take a few hours to get down good enough to use on the street, but it still isn't a guarantee that you will not mess up or face someone who knows how to deal with it or accidentally does the right thing on their end to get past it. Also the real benefit of this is giving you a good defensive option to avoid being severely hurt and the hope of running or gaining bystander intervention.
Think of the UFC, they manage to constantly pull off grappling moves against each other with both sides training in performing and defending against them. Both sides are top athletes who train their reflexes constantly.
Not sure about closing the distance, but covering up definitely kept me from getting knocked out by a wooden dishrack that was swung at my head.
It works against smaller guy.But dont push your luck against big dudes.Grab their eyeballs and the other 2 balls instead.
Clipp024 you dont do grappling on a street/real fight.lol..if you get jumped your dead.Krav Maga is the game.Grab eyeballs and break necks while you defend,grab anything you hold and smash it into your opponents skull,make use of everything that is favorable to you.Make sure you dont lie down on the ground.
You dont have to fight them.What im trying to say is you have a better chance of surviving if you are not lying down on the street pulling somebodys arm or trying to out power a guy bigger than you.lol Attack while you defend to get away from the attacke/s (bigger/multiple)..Feel free to search on youtube how krav maga teaches how to do real fights..
I won't disrespect a person's different ideas. But I will say these ideas your showing will get guys hurt. Awareness is your greatest adversary and after that it's overwhelming force with focused violence.
clinton smith, context mate. At the end of the day, the LEO has to be able to justify their response.
He started very well. "If you don't see professional fighters do it, it doesn't work."
But he then demonstrated techniques that you don't see professional fighters doing.
Then again there are also things that work very well that professional fighters aren't ALLOWED to do.
@@danielhounshell2526 - but this isn't one of them.
Stfu
@@callactm14 - How rude lol
1. Claim well established fighting method (Blocking) is Useless
2. Repackage said well established concept (blocking)
3. ???
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What clickbait! What halfassed drivel... seriously WTF?
You really think he's making bank off this? These are basic MMA concepts and you can easily compare them to what happens in any pro fight. I don't know what you mean by half-assed drivel.
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What hes trying to say is block your head, dont try that kung fu shit of blocking your opponents arm and countering
While I appreciate you playing Devils Advocate since it is helpful to cut the bullshit, you gotta take an L for using a Peak Tyson defense video. I can't imagine you not being fully aware of why this reference fails your point. I can think of 3 right off the bat. 1) This is boxing and he isn't blocking, he's defending very much the same way Chad is teaching 2) A real life fight has no rules like boxing 3) on the first few minutes Tyson slips a few jabs. In the real world he would be met with a knee to the face when he ducked low
This gives good information, but I would like to say from life experiences, that sometimes you have to block. You will have practiced so much, that you will have muscle memory and when attacked, your body will move with a mind of its own. Sometimes you have to block and sometimes not. But building muscle memory is very, very important and if you stop reguallar practice, your muscle memory is decline. Practice, practice, practice.
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In boxing, mma they often parry, redirect, a block
Paul Dempsey because a parry or redirect is close/tight, I don't consider it a traditional block....just my 2 cents...thanks for your comment
No they dont. The vast majority of all punches or kicks is either being avoided or being blocked by covering your face. Everytime a fighter fights against someone who is primarily known for striking, they keep their hands always infront of their faces and barely ever try any fancy blocks or redirects.
@@waterturtle2919 I understand what your saying but a parry is not a fancy block and is often used in conjunction with slips or to monitor a jab, cheers for the reply partner, we could probably argue this point all day lol
Best video on dealing with a sucker puncher/ambush. Especially credible to me as this man, Chad Lyman, is a LEO instructor, so there is no way law enforcement would adopt something on the street that didn't work and put their lives at risk. Simple tactic which can be deployed from the preemptive "fence" position against most sudden encounters. Also takes advantage of the natural flinch response.
"there is no way law enforcement would adopt something on the street that didn't work and put their lives at risk" Unfortunately not true at all. There are many departments out there that train their officers in completely unrealistic systems. Often to have a PR image of trying to be nonviolent and appease their city councils idea of what an officer should be. Two good examples are PPCT and aikido based training that is SOP for their department.
I think this literally couldn't be more practical and worthy of praise. Thank you for sharing true knowledge and fighting wisdom.
Except the suspect is doing nothing with his body or other hand. Its a mat room drill.
George Foreman and his extended rear guard. He stuffs jabs and punches at their source. As it goes for an example, you can't get much better than one of the greatest boxers of all time.
Amen! This guy is an idiot. MMA fighters block all the time. Covering is what they do when the don't have time to block. George Foreman was a great example of a form of blocking. This guy will ignore that though, along with the fact a LOT of pro fighters get beat senseless while covering! I can see that happening to him on the street cause you can tell he completely believes his own bs.
Amen! This guy is an idiot. MMA fighters block all the time. Covering is what they do when the don't have time to block. George Foreman was a great example of a form of blocking. This guy will ignore that though, along with the fact a LOT of pro fighters get beat senseless while covering! I can see that happening to him on the street cause you can tell he completely believes his own bs.
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Anderson Silva using wing Chun blocks
Professor Lyman was my grappling coach for a lot of years and he knows what he is talking about when it comes to self defense..
Why not train to perform a defense with an immediate counterattack to the chin followed by several more fast strikes, instead of tying up with the suspect? They could be stronger or trained in mma/wrestling and tying up with them right away may not be smart. I know he said space is not what is desired, but making that defense/counterattack followed by several more strikes and delivering a good defensive front kick will allow enough space and time to draw your weapon. The suspect may even be knocked out by then. There is also the danger of a blade.
I wrote a long comment on this vid and i think its relevant so heres a copy. "I prefer dodging and deflecting the blow if necessary. I did a few years of taekwondo which included allot of sparing, some of it against people much bigger than me. The best option is to not be in the path of the blow and if possible use the blows momentum to knock your opponent off balance but that takes a good amount of sparing to get the muscle memory. If you try do block and the person is much stronger than you they will just crush through your block. If you cover and they have a knife you dont see you will get stabbed. Its just better not to be in the way. My taekwondo instructor was a 5 times British national championship winner and in 2015 he was put in the marshal arts illustrated hall of fame, 7th Dan Taekwondo, 5th Dan Brithai. My dad also taught me some basic tai chi based self defence (yes, it can be a good form of self defence) through play fighting as a kid."
Great points vincent tomassi...the reason I don't stay in front and exchange is there is no guarantee I will win that exchange...once I am close, I immediately move to an angle...from the angle I can attack and it limits his attack...I have to win the striking war if I stay in front of the guy....from an angle hard to stab or hit me...just some reasons for my method
I'd also add that you need a good deal more distance to draw and take a sight picture with someone closing on you than you think.
There's another video on the channel with Instructor Zero demonstrating this.
Vincent Tomassi because this is a cops training. They can wear stabproof vests. Also they wont go one on one. Wrestling and bjj is good for 1 on 1. But if it is 3 on 1 there isnt much effectiveness. They just close distance and swarm the suspect with many. If you think like this, his video makes a lot of sense. Ofc you are right and you shouldnt do this in a 1 on 1 street fight
Great video. Only concern I have is that the offenders hands were close to your sidearm a few times. Always be mindful that the offender may not decide to punch but rather draw your gun.
good to have a holster retention system that is difficult to draw from that position and angle
Then it's not a great video... I'm sorry but getting your sidearm stolen is pretty much one of the worst things that can happen. Avoid any strategy that doesn't minimize that risk.
Bill Murray have you tried to grab a gun from a retention holster when it's on somebody else's hip and not yours, it's hard as fuck to do especially with one hand and a resisting opponent.
Secondary retention is important and so is head control. Notice the moment he takes the center of gravity down by putting weight on bad guys head, the gun becomes difficult to get to.
I agree a good retention system is paramount. If they get their hands on your weapon, even with a good retention system - they can get the weapon used against you. They can also go for your taser, baton etc. best to keep their hands away from that area. Keep in mind that turds train too.
If his feet do that, I create distance!
-feet do exactly that-
-gets as close as posible-
BOOM I'm covering! -gets hugged-
One thing we were taught is that you never ever take your eyes off the opponent or cover your vision, especially if you are "covering" because then you are in a defensive position and the aggressor is controlling the fight at that millisecond. Also you need to learn how to do simple blocks incase your opponent has an edged weapon.
"Don't block, block."
And your semantic argument is saying that the first "block," which isn't a block in the traditional application, is the only thing called a block and you challenge us to show someone using it in a venue?
The technique you displayed would work fine in the context of a wrestling sport. In a mixed venue, you'd eat a knee to your liver. Fighters aren't nearly as stupid as an untrained aggressor on the street.
In the context of a police stop, rent-a-cop, or any other security situation in which you are armed with a firearm, cudgel, flashlight, or pepper spray, getting that close, in the way you did, is the same as giving your weapon to the would be assailant. This is not at all police protocol.
The only context this works in is the context of a bouncer trying to control and detain the attacker. Even then, you have to watch their arm. You left it in many positions where they could grab your berries or adjust to throw you. And you must remember the reality of weapons. Charging in like that as a person draws a knife is a good way to end up gutted.
You are arguing semantics and calling your block, "cover," in an attempt to market your system. It's also why you are dressed like a tactician and bring up your time as a Las Vegas police officer. Even this channel is marketed towards the type that gets off on that. You are working off the hope, the general consensus that those who would buy into your system don't know any better. It's why you so brazenly stated that the rising block, or any block for that matter, is never used in fight venues. And you hope the ones watching the video won't know any better or fact check, as most people are lazy.
Taking a few moments to poor over the comments, people have posted links to several professional fighters not only using the block in a MMA style venue, but many professional fighters advocating the block.
@Chris Madison Rampage vs Silva 3. Rampage does 2 blocks then KO's silva. So when he says you don't see it in a ring or mma, he's lying.
Also, look up 5 vs 1 boxer and it's actually a road rage street fight in which 1 Kali-type uses "DIRTY Boxing" (aka Panatuken technique of kali) beats 5, using a block then perry and punch on the guy in white about 22-28 secs in. So, yeaaahhh.
One Word for this so called expert. Havent you ever heard of George's Foreman using his arm to block? That is one of the moves his known for.
I’m guessing George was talking ab boxing, not a full on street fight
@@garymichael6899 He did say, "any man who makes money through fighting."
I kinda get what this cop is saying, the blocking that many systems use to defend against punches is ineffective. Muay Thai fighters, boxers, those guys know how to block. The difference between the "right" way and the "wrong" way, is you block close to your head/body. If you extend your arm out to block, you're just creating another opening that your opponent can slip a punch in, and trust me, to a trained striker, the kind of blocking a Wing Chun guy leaves looks HUGE to them.
You're right that George Foreman used the cross-arm defense that was effective even at the elite level, but also notice that he his arms weren't extended too far out from his head and body as they were protecting from blows. They could obviously never extend farther out than the reach of his elbows in that style.
@@gregfalco4528 I totally agree, foreman's blocking has his arms slighted bent similar to others martial arts styles
@@hellcat28 Foreman is a trained fighter and that kind of blocking is not normal or instinctual. The video showed the normal reaction under high stress, which is simple and realistic in a sudden attack without warning.
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This is smart. I figured a lot of people would nitpick terminology, but what really matters is that it’s true and what you demonstrated makes sense. While many would call the techniques you debunk a catch or a parry, I would say it boils down to two things-one movement is a gamble that risks way too much on assuming it will work and work in time, while the other is a pragmatic play to improve your odds of fighting effectively.
The next benefit is this technique is relatively simple and can be practiced and learned quickly, while the other require a lifetime of training to use sometimes-this is impractical for almost everyone.
All training is just improving your odds. It’s like wearing a seatbelt.
Won a subscriber. You all consistently post smart or at least thought provoking content. Thanks.
He's blocking. And I guess he never saw a boxing match.
Idiot
lots wrong with this, and some right. and most people arent cops, so you need to break it down into a more realistic example, All thai fighters block, dont block a few round houses and you wont be walking. As for the foot being back and saying no one attacks from squared footwork is silly. lots can and will. they will be less effective hits, but they will be more likely to hit as many dont expect it. Closing with someone as a cop with a gun is silly. you would keep your 20+ foot range, pull a baton or pepper spray or tazer. and await support.
Most police work is well inside of 20' man. You cant keep 20' distance unless you just plan on summarily executing people. Batons are ineffective at 20'. Pepper spray mostly too but some can reach that far.
I agree with some of what you said. You must remain aware of your strong side and protect your weapon, but unless you are just going to go to gun, then you need to be able to do this. I think this is a lot of the reason why there are so many police shootings these days, too little focus on how to handle themselves in violent encounters. Ive heard cops just flat out say id rather just shoot someone than get into it with them. If thats your attitude then go home you arent a cop, you are a coward with a badge or a sociopath looking for a violence outlet.
Bas ruten fights with his hips forward not turned.
You are going to speak with someone on the street from 20 plus feet away?!
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@@metamorphicorder there's a couple of reasons why there's so many cops shooting people these days. #1 they hire people that have no business working with the public in any capacity. #2 cops have been given WAY too much power, and have disregarded the constitution. specifically, "probable cause". they are willing to shoot first and ask questions later because they know they'll get away with it(same with tasers, pepper spray, batons, flashlights, etc). #3 they hire sub-sub-standard people. we've all seen the physical condition of cops today. 90+% of them are over weight and they could never pass a physical agility test in a million years. when i was a kid, every cop had to pass this test, including running a mile in less then 8 minutes. no such test is required today. and many of those cops are over 300 lbs! many of them don't even know the law.
I can totally take shit off his belt while he’s doing that
exactly....
Officers typically have level 3+ retention on their holsters, you can't just "take" their weapon out of it from the outside. Most are designed pretty much for only the operator to draw them out quickly.
Unless a particular department has shit holsters, then thats different. But most have retention holsters.
Mr. Dark doesn’t matter, if it’s loaded I can pull the trigger if the safety is disabled or at the very least it will cause the person with the weapon to put their hands on it which leaves the face and neck open. The first move he makes in the video he puts the opponents arm behind his head leaving him open for a grab and a hip toss as well. I can go on and on...
come on, have you ever see a holster that exposes the trigger guard?
@Owen Bunny I am guessing he has not, and has no clue whatsoever about one of any type.
What the man is telling you is cover the target,don’t try to guess the punch and reach out.Great advice.