I know a girl like this and her hair is a fried hot mess, she's white passing so treats her hair as if she's a 2a when she's 4c, she's very mad. Her hair has been fried since school days
You have all the 4's. I can tell when looking at your hair with different products on it. You may also have multiple strand types, like fine and thick. ❤
I have 4c hair but my hair is so fine (as in, the diameter is small) it sometimes looks and acts differently because it's "lighter". I definitely don't have a thick head of hair like Joy-el. Edit: I do have looser curls at my nape though.
Yep, I noticed some of the wars over your hair type in the comment sections. I've minded my business about that. Lol. But I did note the tone of some of the defenders against the 4c. Almost as if it would be an insult for you to be born biracial and have type 4 hair. I think it's the underlying ugly of the good hair trope. Which biracial Black Americans have been the main poster children for. But your hair's at a glance aesthetic is type 4c, it seems to have all of the signifiers of 4c. Your hair is gloriously and beautifully type 4. But a lot of people see 4c as a slur. Lol. And I don't think they wanted it for you.
Girl, it's a mess. Like people straight up behave like you can't have ANY curl pattern at any point. That includes your hair being soaking wet or having every product imaginable in your hair, and creating curls with a twist out. Also you can't have hair past your shoulders and be 4C. For folks like that, 4C hair is just hair you can't do anything to. It's hair that can't bring you any joy. Hair that can be styled is not 4C hair.
@@birdiewolf3497 Truth. Black people have been conditioned to believe the "Blacker" the feature is identified as the worse it is, the more angst it's suppse to bring you, the uglier it is. We must reprogram this mindset.
I kind of see it more of possession. Biracial women with all types of 4 hair get to be the representation of black hair. When you search every type of black hair texture or go to any commerical or go to any beauty page, biracial women are shown. So to say she wasn't 4C was a way for those women to keep that texture representation. 4C is the only hair type that you can type in and ONLY see unambigious black women. But race is interesting. There are people who 80% or more white who have kinky hair textures. We want to be selfish and have something for ourselves but Joy-El has the hair she has and can't change it. We can't shut people out of type 4 hair even if the media and our own internal hate stops us from seeing unabigious black women as the main form of that type 4 beauty. Joy (and Jaleesa Moses) is the only biracial hair youtubers that I follow because she understands and doesn't try to erase anyone. She gives props, shows love for black women, and represents herself well as a biracial women. She isn't self hating or calling herself the face of black women.
It's like that with everybody it seems. when people try to use the back of their head as proof they're fully 4a or 3C. it's weird to me. what does most of your head look like? is the question. if most of your hair does not look like the back then you are not what's in the back.
Your hair is eye candy! It's so thick and healthy looking. Don't forget to let us know once you get a modeling gig. I think that you should also audition for acting or voice over work too. You are so beautiful, and you have the cutest voice. 💟
Omg I'm so happy to see someone who looks like me (light skin and type 4 hair) I haven't come across a lot of light skinned people with kinky hair on youtube! And we have the same hair type!
Same! Joy-el has helped me so much to come to terms with my skin colour and hair type. she’s such an inspiration love her!❤️❤️ and she’s so kind and pretty😍
Joy, everyone knows you're mostly 4C and no one hates you for saying it. Say it loud and say it proud. Also hair texture can change over time, especially as it gets longer and as you age, so those are factors to take in consideration as you go through this journey. I made this reply to someone else but I want to put it here so anyone can see it, but the hate you get is primarily based in pain and jealousy. People don't want you to have 4C hair but people need to come face to face with their own pain from being underrepresented/misrepresented and not loved. In some cases, it's people's self hate that causes them to lash out at you. Biracial women with all types of 4 hair get to be the representation of black hair. When you search every type of black hair texture or go to any commerical or go to any beauty page, biracial women are shown over any black woman. So to say Joy wasn't 4C was a way for those women to keep that texture representation. 4C is the only hair type that you can type in and ONLY see unambigious black women but that is slowly changing and now it seems unambigious black women are losing representation even as we slowly gain it. But we all know that race is interesting. There are people who 80% or more white who have kinky hair textures and even some afro features. We want to be selfish and have something for ourselves and this puts people like Joy in the path of our pain but Joy-El has the hair she has and can't change it. We can't shut people out of type 4 hair even if the media and our own internal hate stops us from seeing unabigious black women as the main form of that type 4 beauty. It's so easy to search our hair type and then see biracial women and feel we still aren't beautiful enough even when we try to be natural. Joy (and Jaleesa Moses) are the only biracial hair youtubers that I follow because they understand this and doesn't try to erase anyone. Joy always gives props, shows love for black women, and represents herself well as a biracial women. She isn't self hating or calling herself the face of black women. Much respect for that.
Well said, the issues ppl are having is race. Race is man made, so when biology/dna pop up i.e. mixed women with 4c hair, 100% black women with straight hair people don't know how to react. They can't reconcile what they have been taught with what they see. If more people would educate themselves on genes, DNA and biology there would be less conflict and more understanding.
So true 👍 👍. Hade 4c hair most of the time but it changes the longer it grows. After 25 years I now have mixed 4b and 4c. I have noticed that products play a role too.
Though I understand what you’re saying, I also believe that unambiguous black women deserve their anger about this. Of course Joy doesn’t deserve the hate of she’s not trying to be disrespectful, but unambiguous Black women in general deserve to be represented fully and positively represented at that. Representation matters, especially for young people, but even for people of different races since having para-relationships with people on tv can help them understand deeply the importance of diversity. If all they see is biracial black people they’ll believe that representation can just be birracial or light skin and will hire them in the future or be kinder to them. It’s important that people aren’t rude but it’s also important to understand that anger and lift people up instead of acting like we should only think scientifically. Society is impt , and we can’t (and shouldn’t) change that, we should instead change how society views people, especially unambiguous black women. (This is coming from a LS, monoracial black woman with 3c/4a hair who is mistaken for mixed, I still want my darker and more obviously monoracial sisters to be respected, protected, and represented.)
ameena peters Ive watched a few of her videos where her hair is wet. She does have some 4A which resembles coils but most of her hair looks to have a zig zag pattern or loose coil which 4C isn’t. It’s only hard to tell bc she has a spongy texture like most. If it was the silky texture which some 4B ppl have, it’d be more apparent what her type is
teahgurl hmm, yeah I’ve been going back and forth, when she did the wash and go, immediately I was like there’s more curls you know than coils, but she posted a post of how it looked the next day and definition was completely gone. So I took a step back and was like wait a minute I’m confused again, but my hair use to do that where definition would last only a day, I think she should use a comb and like a styling brush something larger maybe or smaller sections which she didn’t do in the wash and go, but sis has a lot of hair so I understand or rather see the struggle my hair ain’t that thick. It’s all about products to and the way it’s styled.
What I just learned about the type 4 A B C is that 4c was last to be added to the hair typing list but basically 4a hair is the s/spiral shape curls, 4b hair is the z/zigzag shape and 4c is basically 4a hair just way smaller curls. Type 4c hair gets a rep for having no curl definition but the curls are just small and when moisturized the curls POP
I knew you were multi-textured back when you did your wash n go with the kinky curly line. Welcome to the three textures club😹😂🤣🤣🥳 since I do wash n go’s mainly, I know the struggle of different areas/patches doing totally different things. Type 4 is safe and covers it all. I’ve found knowing the texture type is more important if you are trying to replicate someone else’s styling but knowing porosity is most important. I can’t believe people are arguing😹😂
I’m mixed and I have the same texture as you!!! I’m also very light complected like you. I never thought I would meet someone mixed that has the same texture as me! I even have that same 3c pattern just above my neck lol. When I was younger, my hair was like no where near 4b/4c (it was a lot looser). I got a relaxer when I was around 9-14 years old because my mom did not know how to take care of my hair curly. When I decided to go natural, I noticed my texture was a lot tighter and thicker than it was when I was younger. I love it though. It’s so beautiful and I have learned to embrace it and take care of it the right way. You are so inspiring and I will continue to watch your journey. Much love💜
You're hair is really similar to my hair. I love your hair it's gorgeous, I almost get teary eyed because it took me a while to love my hair and watching your videos since the beginning. It has really made me feel more amazing about my hair. Thank you Type 4 sounds good to me🥰😁
I'm not biracial, but I am afro-latina, and I also have that random 3C patch at the back of my hair! LOL. I think my pattern matches yours. I am 4C in the front, and 4A/4B everywhere else. Wow, I never knew how to figure it out until I saw yours. Thank you.
I normally don't comment but I just find it so interesting that we literally started our journeys at the same time and practically have the same hair type(s) and it acts the same. Shoot even the location of those hair type(s) is the same as well. You are literally my hair twin!!!
First let me say, THANK YOU!! I’m LOVING this video, and your hair is absolutely GORGEOUS!! There isn’t many influencers with our hair type out here, so thanks again!! A light complected women WITH a gorgeous head of texture 4 curls and coils......It’s nice to see some representation. I’ve never been the best at doing my hair. I found it particularly frustrating trying to copy the tutorials of influencers with hair that was NOTHING like mine. Especially when I was newly natural and thinking that if I used “that” product, and “that” technique, I’d get ”that” result. It did nothing but set me up for failure, upset, frustration and ultimately the disappointment of an unattainable goal. Honestly, this, what you’ve described in your video, THIS IS MY HAIR!! LOL Soooooooooo If anyone gets butt-hurt about labeling 4c hair......TOO BAD, SOOOOOOO SAD!! 😝 LOL I have a 1/2 inch ring 3c running all around the perimeter of the back and sides of my hair. I have type 4 a, b & c curls. And in the crown I have type 4c coils. In the front I have weird z pattern, type 4b mixed with who-know’s-what😳🤦🏽♀️ Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE MY HAIR!!! I also firmly believe that are several types of 4c hair. Silky, In-between and Coarse, all of which can be a combination of, wavy, coily and extremely coily (where it’s hard to see the definition. The strands are frizziest, finest, prone to tangling and braking). Of course these are simply my opinions and observations of the differences between my own hair, and that of those of friends, family members.
I always put type 4 in my videos as well because my head has a bunch of different textures, even some straight pieces but.... mostly type 4 and thats how I identify. I think porosity matters the most....just my opinion. Great video!
As someone mixed, I love your channel. I see myself represented, even though we don't have the same hair type, I love hearing your experience and how you feel, and you just get it.
I think you're a mixture of type 4 also! I swore my big chop almost 4 yrs. ago was going to result in the sweetest Angela Davis-style afro, but after a spray of water and some finger coiling, I looked like a grown-@$$ chocolate Shirley Temple, lol! As my hair has grown, my curl pattern has diverged so much from the one I originally thought I had, that it's crazy. I have type 3 loose curls in front(like, scrunch in your hand to help it curl loose), 3 and 4a/b on the sides, 4a/b in the back, 4b/c at the crown, and a 4c perimeter, just to keep it interesting. I love a good twistout, and I won't dare attempt a wng at my length now(past bsl) for fear of looking like a mental patient with my wild textures and uneven-looking hair(especially in Texas heat/humidity!), though I generally bun it anyway. Like you said, Joy-el, healthy hair IS good hair, regardless of pattern! Tyfs! ♡
It’s truly amazing how genes distribute. Not even gotta lie, if your hair was straight I’d probably assume you were a white girl. I know you confuse a lot of people! But the Africa in you made itself known and you embraced it👌🏽. Love the vids. I say 4c with a little 3c/4a patch in the back.
Yeah I thought this was a white girl with a wig on lol, except for her hair and lips her features are mostly European, opened my eyes to how closed minded I may be
I thought the same thing. Honestly though, if her voice was different, I probably would've guess she was mixed. She's got a nasally white geeky sound. She cute tho 🤷
I would say 4c. Once people see any semblance of a curl on 4c hair they assume it has to be something different. But just like every other hair texture and curl, we have a lot of variety too. Plus when u take care of ur mane it just hits different. I try to tell people. Lol!
I hate to be that person but @3:22 and just in general you can tell she's not 4c. Its looks like a mixture of 4b and possibly 4a. Not say 4c doesn't have variety.( i have 4c as well) but 4c has a tighter coil along with more strinkage. Idk. It just looks like a more course 4b/4a. Could be wrong.
Clay Jensen nah 4a hair looks wildly different from 4c my hair is 4a and looks very dissimilar to hers because her hair’s curls are so small and tight but I’d definitely say 4c because she has the s-shaped curls
I live in Africa so I see 4c everywhere in person not just on the internet. She's 4b majorly. She has curls not coils like 4c is. No typing chart shows 4c as anything other than coils. 4b has diversity too. This is a clear zigzag pattern with a little bit with tighter 4a coils
I agree. I think you have a combo type 4 hair as do I. I also have small areas that may be type 3. No big deal cause like you said, “healthier hair is good hair.” Enjoy your vids.
Sharmaine, I have followed your natural hair journey and I must say I love your hair and the more it grows, the more gorgeous it is. I see some 3c at the nape and you have 4B, 4C and a sprinkling of 4A in other sections of your head. I meant to comment that when you did the wash and go but I didn't want to start a curl pattern war in the comment section. I'm 4A/3C and my curls remain quite visible when dry until the next wash day. You definitely have a lot of definition at the nape.
girl, we got the same texture. 4a,4b,4c and all of its glory!! im the same way, my curl pattern in the crown is very loose like 4a, it also stays defined after it dries. the top and back of my head is 4b. the middle of my nape is 4a, and the bare end of it is 4b. my temples are 4c but my edges are very loose baby hairs (which is weird). my strands are thicker in the 4a section and finer in the 4b-4c sections. when it all dries.... my temples shrink up SO MUCH.... giving the appearance that my afro is uneven. its so kinky that it literally does not curl unless i have tons of product on it. i love my hair, i primarily keep it in twists now to retain length, especially now that we're in quarantine. my go-to hairstyles are loose puffs.
I can't believe I'm just finding video. Definitely relate to defining my curl type as just type 4. I similar to you have combination of all the type 4's and maybe a little 3c at the back and it's just easier when people ask my hair type to say type 4. You're hair is gorgeous by the way.
You're right just say Type 4 hair, don't stress it Sweetie. Many of us have multiple textures. I recently discovered this about my hair and I am in my 60's! Up until then always thought my hair was 4C but now I know better. 🥰
No Knows Hair has a great video on types and textures that goes deeper into: texture, density, porosity etc... I too have many patterns- losser it in top front, tight coils on the temples, a random patch at my back crown that is loose kinky and coarse.
I dont think so, I you watch a video of her doing her shampoo you will notice that her her wont shrink like a 4c hair type (like myself) i think its a 4b
@@shannonmorris8384 Lol yea they're delusional, anything to try to claim a biracial has 4C hair or whatever reason it is to push that lie. eye roll* Charmaine is a 4B. and now the truth has come out. About damn time to. I'm just tired of people mis-labeling black folks hair and I'm even more tired when they do it to biracials.
I so agree with you when you said many people have different textures on their heads. I have mostly 3c but i have 3b on the top of my head and the very back and the kicker- 4a on the sides of my head! my hair looks so odd cuz the sides have so much shrinkage compared to the rest lol
Yours is very similar to mine: very fine/smooth nape area that I inherited from my grandmother 😊 just stick to type 4 girl 😉 I've noticed that as hair grows, patterns seem to change due to gravity taking hold of each strand... but like you said, as long as it's healthy it's all good 😎 stay safe & take care ❤
I have a very loose patch on the nape of my neck too. It’s always the easiest to comb and style. It also doesn’t fall in line with the rest of my hair and the shrinkage is different. It always hangs lower 🤦🏾♀️
You are absolutely gorgeous! It’s so refreshing to see the true diversity that exists in the human race when everyone isn’t trying to look one way. 😍 thank you for embracing the way God and nature made you! I appreciate the beauty!!
I’ve got the exact same situation with my hair! I have all 3 types of type 4 on my head with the front being the softest and more curly than coily looking. For that reason it looks odd when I try to wear my hair in a fro. At least I think it does anyways
This is about the 1 of the few youtubers i've found exactly like my hair type, it's clearly 4C maybe a mixture of 4b at the back, but mainly 4C, mine is also the same, i don't think anyone had one curl pattern anyway. I feel like i'm watching tutorials for my hair, finally! Instead of others tryinh to manipulate their hair to be 4A/4B or looser. I feel like people associate 4C with just dry undefined hair, but this is an example of moisturised healthy 4C hair! Especially when wet or conditioner in it you can see you curls pop more but then when it's dry not as visible and yeah her hair didn't shrink as much because her hair is longggg now, look at her old video. 4C is not limited to just being fully black, i think people confuse the take down of braids or dry, pending a well needed deep conditioner for being 4C hair, not looked after hair, constantly put into protective styles to avoid taking care of it and hidden under weaves when that is just dry, not nourished hair!! 4C is hard work but this type of hair needs extra care compared to other hair types and this is a clear example of 4C hair being well taken care of, but quickly dismissed as being 4B or 4A because it looks well moisturised and you can see definition when wet. If i could show you my 4C hair when i neglected with weaves/ protective styles for long periods of time, to now, you will know what i mean. 4C is beautiful lets embrace it! I love how it's like the most unique hair textures of all! I love how she's embracing and showing how she works with it.
It’s 4B but you have some 4A in parts... Wet hair reveals type best. I’m 4B too. Hard to determine type 4 hair bc ppl use hair texture to classify which is incorrect. I can’t wait til I get to your length! It’s so beautiful.
Tosin Ojo Huh? A friend of mine has 4C hair that coils all over ... I know 4C coils and can even clump some. 4B hair isn’t “coily” per say bc it has a different pattern... a z pattern. Where do you really see coils on her head? Wet and dry? I’m just saying but I’m not about to debate bc really the hair typing system is flawed.
I agree. This is the first time I'm seeing people argue about 4c having zigzag curls when there is clearly a category for that. 4c has tight coils. She is mostly 4b
That's definitely 4A. That's us, lol. My hair grows up, and out. It shrinks my curls are more loose in the back and tight. As it gets longer, it gets more defined and looser.
💖✨ My hair is just like yours, and I couldn't figure mine out either! Just like you, I concluded that my hair is 4b as well-- with very soft baby hairs in the front and back-- then it turns very coarse towards the middle.✨ CONFUSING!!! But I'm so glad that I caught your video because I KNOW that I'm not 4c. And just like you, I'm probably somewhere between 4a and 4b. 💋 (Yes... I'm trying to figure it out, too.) ✨
I have a theory. Hear me out. I think you have 4C middle and 4A-B all around the front, sides, and back due to wearing your hair in high puffs. Usually we stretch our hair when pulling it up high or back and it relaxes the curl a bit from the stretching. Just a thought because you asked! You hair is gorgeous, so I don't care how you type it!! 🐞🦋💯
You know I think I’ve been thinking that for a while like the more you manipulate your curls it does change the pattern but if you don’t do anything to it like leave it in a fro it would stay consistent
As long as you can find products that work with your hair type it really doesn't matter what category your hair falls under. I think this hair type chart is totally unhelpful and just causes confusion. My hair doesn't seem to fit the typing system at all as it is frizzy and kinky but I know what it likes product wise. I think afro hair personally goes further than 4c and if you look at various people around, be it men or women with their natural hair, you will see the different kinks and textures we all have.
You appear to be 4b, but that won't be very apparent until you have more growth. Curly and kinky hair often starts getting a looser pattern if the hair grows longer because the length begins to loosen the curl pattern. You don't have the very long length but your growth abundant and it shows in the fullness of your hair.
I kept cutting the crown of my hair cause it’s so much looser, finer and tangles more than the rest of my natural 4c hair cause I thought it was permanently damaged from the relaxer even after being relaxer free for 3 years. I did that until I started watching UA-cam and kept hearing other natural sisters stating that they had different curl patterns all throughout their hair. So that gave me the understanding that the middle of my hair the middle of my probably just doing what it natural is supposed. So I stopped cutting it. Am glad you didn’t do what I did lol 🤣😂😅.
You are not alone on having multi-4 type hair. I am the same way and so is my son. Your hair is beautiful. Also, what you eat can affect the multi-4 hair.
I can totally relate with you. I have 3c on my sides and nape, then 4a from my crown to the front of my head.each section of my hair has to be treated differently because the hair types respond to products differently. Thanks so much for this video 🙂👍🏽
It's funny, the more you use the clay, the more your curls will clump together and become more defined. The first time I did it, my hair barely clumped but after a week of doing the max hydration method, it got much much curlier and now it defines quite easily. My hair is very similar, 3c 4a in very back, 4a in front, barely shrinks but doesn't define as well just hangs lol but middle and sides are def 4b maybe even a little 4c. Very dense, lots of strands. Takes an age to detangle. The most beautiful thing on my body. When you use the clay, make it heavy enough to weigh your hair down and put it on clean washed hair, that way it draws out the toxins better. Never thought I'd love my hair so much. But now I have to fight myself to leavebot alone because it were up to me, I'd play in it every day lol. I've had so much fun with wash and go's but it causes single strand knots and then I have to trim more often. I want length now so I'm having to leave it alone and stop wash and go's. Already seen a big growth spurt this year. Even after a trim, it's still down to boob lenth lol. Want bra strap by the end of the year! Protection protection protection!
You have beautiful hair. I have a combo too of different type 4s. The back of my hair is the most dense while the front is a loser curl. The crown is the thinnest. I wish mine was more dense like yours.
I think your hair is 4C. You have to understand that because of your skin color, people are going to try to see 4A but if you were darkskin, there would be no doubt in people's minds. 4C hair is beautiful. It's also what makes you stand out. You should never deny your roots to make people happy. It's obvious you have 4C hair.
I def can relate to different textures in my hair. I, too have to use a lit of product toward the front, the crown is more kinkier and the back is a looser curl.
I don't think anyone has just one pattern. I think I mostly have 4a. I have a looser small S pattern on the front and top of my head, and ringlets at the back of my head about the size of a knitting needles. Then to make it interesting I have random very loose curls, probably 3b or c, in the back and sides of my head.
@@SharmaineJoyel I'll be honest. if people really want to know, they can go ask a professional black stylist. I however think you're mostly 4B. i never thought you were 4C. it became apparent when your sis was doing your box braids and she showed a bit of your hair in the back with product. 4C hair doesn't define at all like that.
I'm so pleased I've stumbled upon your channel! Like its given me some confidence to finally start my own. I'm mixed race my dad is African American and my mum is white Scottish. I'm lighter skinned but I have 4a hair type. I also have a little girl who has a white father, but her hair is super duper fine and soft texture but is like a 4a curl pattern. I really want to start my own channel for other girls like us too (For ALL women may I add) but man it's nice seeing someone similar to myself and my daughter ❤
I only have 4a, 4a.5, and 4b with maybe a 3c/4a on the very bottom row. The middle of my head is 4a and my edges is 4a/3c. I assume the front is 4a and the back middle like before it gets looser again is like 4a.5/4b... but then that changes a lot as you may have seen in my videos.. so now I don't hairtype and just say you can visibly see my curls from a distance and my porosity is normal
Looks 4c with some 4b. I determine hair type based off individual ringlet size when moisturized or wet. Some people include shrinkage in the curl type too.
This is exactly how my hair is.. down to the crown being the thickest and kinkiest with the most random patch of loose curls at the nape of my neck. We also have similar names!
So happy you did this segment! I’m a 4 type but definitely have to say I’m a mix of 4b and 4c. But it was crazy because my kids are 4a and 3c. My hubby is bald! Lol!!
That makes sense that you have a combination. The hair in the front of my head is stick straight but the middle is slightly wazy and the very back starts to curl. Your hair is so beautiful. 😍 Thick and luxurious. ❤️
I saw your video today and I love your postive truthfulness of your hairr journey and I wanted to mention that I have similar hair like yours and towards the back of my hair like yours it’s the same lose curls which blows and kinda irates me at the same time, and add I find your hair videos very encouraging 😊.
I can’t see how people think your hair is 4a to even go as far as to say anything in the 3s tho. Like I think you just have healthy moisturized 4c for the most part because your hair is super similar to mine and I am 1000% 4c with a random part of the right side of my head as 4b. Just recently now have it under control by strengthening and moisturizing it(low porosity is a struggle 😪) and it has a bit more definition and just..idk how to describe it. Not looking so crunchy? Lmao. Great video btw!
@Kayla Naomi Bitch shut up. What "self hate"? You tryhards use those words so much it means absolutely nothing now. I said what i said. It's been a month. And im not in everybody's comments fyi. Have a good day.
I think you have majority 4C hair, the crown being the nappiest part and the nape the softest. My hair is exactly like yours and just getting a comb through it is a Herculean task. There’s no equivocation when it’s dry, therefore for me it’s 4C.
This video made me so happy! Not only did i enjoy listening to you but my name is Joy as well and I just started figuring out what my natural hair type is which is a mix of 4a, b, and c! Thankyou for sharing! You are beautiful!
I feel like the type 4 hair, especially 4c category has mini-categories in it. Because your hair does look 4c, but it doesn't look like mine which is also 4c...the three type 4 hair categories don't cover all the type 4 hair textures people have
I've never seen a mixed person with 4c hair. It's kinda dope.
Makaela Mahoney yeah I think it’s pretty awesome, I have type 4 hair and I’m mixed too😁
Symphoni Bordenave sane here I have a black mom and a Columbian father and I have 4c hair to
Doja cat has 4c hair too, just look it up on UA-cam
It’s more common than people think
I know a girl like this and her hair is a fried hot mess, she's white passing so treats her hair as if she's a 2a when she's 4c, she's very mad. Her hair has been fried since school days
Girl your fro is fabs...your curl pattern is type: BEAUTIFUL !! Period nothing else said ...
i think this is totally fake and she is wearing a wig
You have all the 4's. I can tell when looking at your hair with different products on it. You may also have multiple strand types, like fine and thick. ❤
I have 4c hair but my hair is so fine (as in, the diameter is small) it sometimes looks and acts differently because it's "lighter". I definitely don't have a thick head of hair like Joy-el.
Edit: I do have looser curls at my nape though.
Mine too I have all fof the 4,s and some 3c is in the front
Wheres the 4C?! Maybe I missed it.
@@teahgurl Why don't you take a magnifying glass, walk up to Joy-el's house and have a look...
Yup! This is what I see
Yep, I noticed some of the wars over your hair type in the comment sections. I've minded my business about that. Lol. But I did note the tone of some of the defenders against the 4c. Almost as if it would be an insult for you to be born biracial and have type 4 hair. I think it's the underlying ugly of the good hair trope. Which biracial Black Americans have been the main poster children for. But your hair's at a glance aesthetic is type 4c, it seems to have all of the signifiers of 4c. Your hair is gloriously and beautifully type 4. But a lot of people see 4c as a slur. Lol. And I don't think they wanted it for you.
Exactly
Preach 🙌🤗
Girl, it's a mess. Like people straight up behave like you can't have ANY curl pattern at any point. That includes your hair being soaking wet or having every product imaginable in your hair, and creating curls with a twist out. Also you can't have hair past your shoulders and be 4C. For folks like that, 4C hair is just hair you can't do anything to. It's hair that can't bring you any joy. Hair that can be styled is not 4C hair.
@@birdiewolf3497 Truth. Black people have been conditioned to believe the "Blacker" the feature is identified as the worse it is, the more angst it's suppse to bring you, the uglier it is. We must reprogram this mindset.
I kind of see it more of possession. Biracial women with all types of 4 hair get to be the representation of black hair. When you search every type of black hair texture or go to any commerical or go to any beauty page, biracial women are shown. So to say she wasn't 4C was a way for those women to keep that texture representation. 4C is the only hair type that you can type in and ONLY see unambigious black women. But race is interesting. There are people who 80% or more white who have kinky hair textures. We want to be selfish and have something for ourselves but Joy-El has the hair she has and can't change it. We can't shut people out of type 4 hair even if the media and our own internal hate stops us from seeing unabigious black women as the main form of that type 4 beauty. Joy (and Jaleesa Moses) is the only biracial hair youtubers that I follow because she understands and doesn't try to erase anyone. She gives props, shows love for black women, and represents herself well as a biracial women. She isn't self hating or calling herself the face of black women.
It looks like 4c everywhere.. you can have fine textured 4C hair. With 4a and 4b hair, the curls are visible wet or dry and hold.
@Julia Lia Exactly 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Julia Lia ur wrong look up 4B here on UA-cam.
She doesn’t have Type 3 or 4A
Janiya Gowdy 4C has little to no curl definition while 4B has some
Janiya Gowdy That’s interesting but yeah. You can tell the difference between 4B and 4C hair when wet or you apply gel.
The back of my hair is the loosest too.
It's like that with everybody it seems. when people try to use the back of their head as proof they're fully 4a or 3C. it's weird to me. what does most of your head look like? is the question. if most of your hair does not look like the back then you are not what's in the back.
For me it's the back and the front that's looser
Same. It’s crazy, It’s like two different people on my head. I deliberately make the back frizzy to blend in
Same here. I have type 2 hair in the back the rest it's definitely type 3a 3b
For me it’s the back, the crown, and the front by my forehead. The sides by my ear are the tightest
Your hair is eye candy! It's so thick and healthy looking. Don't forget to let us know once you get a modeling gig. I think that you should also audition for acting or voice over work too. You are so beautiful, and you have the cutest voice. 💟
Omg I'm so happy to see someone who looks like me (light skin and type 4 hair) I haven't come across a lot of light skinned people with kinky hair on youtube! And we have the same hair type!
B M. Fr me too I finally found someone with type 4 hair and light like me😁
Symphoni Bordenave same😢😢
Same! Joy-el has helped me so much to come to terms with my skin colour and hair type. she’s such an inspiration love her!❤️❤️ and she’s so kind and pretty😍
Lightskin isn't a race
@@Ashleyimanee I never said that it was though
Joy, everyone knows you're mostly 4C and no one hates you for saying it. Say it loud and say it proud. Also hair texture can change over time, especially as it gets longer and as you age, so those are factors to take in consideration as you go through this journey.
I made this reply to someone else but I want to put it here so anyone can see it, but the hate you get is primarily based in pain and jealousy. People don't want you to have 4C hair but people need to come face to face with their own pain from being underrepresented/misrepresented and not loved. In some cases, it's people's self hate that causes them to lash out at you.
Biracial women with all types of 4 hair get to be the representation of black hair. When you search every type of black hair texture or go to any commerical or go to any beauty page, biracial women are shown over any black woman. So to say Joy wasn't 4C was a way for those women to keep that texture representation.
4C is the only hair type that you can type in and ONLY see unambigious black women but that is slowly changing and now it seems unambigious black women are losing representation even as we slowly gain it.
But we all know that race is interesting. There are people who 80% or more white who have kinky hair textures and even some afro features.
We want to be selfish and have something for ourselves and this puts people like Joy in the path of our pain but Joy-El has the hair she has and can't change it.
We can't shut people out of type 4 hair even if the media and our own internal hate stops us from seeing unabigious black women as the main form of that type 4 beauty.
It's so easy to search our hair type and then see biracial women and feel we still aren't beautiful enough even when we try to be natural.
Joy (and Jaleesa Moses) are the only biracial hair youtubers that I follow because they understand this and doesn't try to erase anyone. Joy always gives props, shows love for black women, and represents herself well as a biracial women. She isn't self hating or calling herself the face of black women. Much respect for that.
Well said, the issues ppl are having is race. Race is man made, so when biology/dna pop up i.e. mixed women with 4c hair, 100% black women with straight hair people don't know how to react. They can't reconcile what they have been taught with what they see. If more people would educate themselves on genes, DNA and biology there would be less conflict and more understanding.
Jaleesa isn't biracial is she?
So true 👍 👍. Hade 4c hair most of the time but it changes the longer it grows. After 25 years I now have mixed 4b and 4c. I have noticed that products play a role too.
What a beautiful dissertation.
Though I understand what you’re saying, I also believe that unambiguous black women deserve their anger about this. Of course Joy doesn’t deserve the hate of she’s not trying to be disrespectful, but unambiguous Black women in general deserve to be represented fully and positively represented at that. Representation matters, especially for young people, but even for people of different races since having para-relationships with people on tv can help them understand deeply the importance of diversity. If all they see is biracial black people they’ll believe that representation can just be birracial or light skin and will hire them in the future or be kinder to them. It’s important that people aren’t rude but it’s also important to understand that anger and lift people up instead of acting like we should only think scientifically. Society is impt , and we can’t (and shouldn’t) change that, we should instead change how society views people, especially unambiguous black women. (This is coming from a LS, monoracial black woman with 3c/4a hair who is mistaken for mixed, I still want my darker and more obviously monoracial sisters to be respected, protected, and represented.)
4c with combination like you said.
No. Mostly 4B
teahgurl I was struggling to figure it out, her hair is very difficult to tell, what makes you say 4B?
ameena peters Ive watched a few of her videos where her hair is wet. She does have some 4A which resembles coils but most of her hair looks to have a zig zag pattern or loose coil which 4C isn’t. It’s only hard to tell bc she has a spongy texture like most. If it was the silky texture which some 4B ppl have, it’d be more apparent what her type is
teahgurl hmm, yeah I’ve been going back and forth, when she did the wash and go, immediately I was like there’s more curls you know than coils, but she posted a post of how it looked the next day and definition was completely gone. So I took a step back and was like wait a minute I’m confused again, but my hair use to do that where definition would last only a day, I think she should use a comb and like a styling brush something larger maybe or smaller sections which she didn’t do in the wash and go, but sis has a lot of hair so I understand or rather see the struggle my hair ain’t that thick. It’s all about products to and the way it’s styled.
What’s so funny is if she was dark skinned nobody would bat a eye and just say 4c
Your like the first lightskin girl or atleast the lightest black girl I’ve seen with type 4 hair.. it’s BEAUTIFUL AND SO ARE YOU
Wow, your hair looks the closest to mine that I've seen so far. Pillowy, cottony, dusty dark brown. I'm surprised you're not high porosity as well!
Same I thought she was high porosity.
What I just learned about the type 4 A B C is that 4c was last to be added to the hair typing list but basically 4a hair is the s/spiral shape curls, 4b hair is the z/zigzag shape and 4c is basically 4a hair just way smaller curls. Type 4c hair gets a rep for having no curl definition but the curls are just small and when moisturized the curls POP
A mix person with 4C hair 😲😎. It makes you even more Unique, then you already are
I knew you were multi-textured back when you did your wash n go with the kinky curly line. Welcome to the three textures club😹😂🤣🤣🥳 since I do wash n go’s mainly, I know the struggle of different areas/patches doing totally different things. Type 4 is safe and covers it all. I’ve found knowing the texture type is more important if you are trying to replicate someone else’s styling but knowing porosity is most important. I can’t believe people are arguing😹😂
I’ve never seen a mix person with your texture of hair. I think you’re so unique and pretty. Awesome video.
Lenny Kravitz is biracial and appears to have type 4 hair. (Just to give another example.)
I see it all the time especially amongst White and black mix Asian and black I never seen it
Van diesel the actor also have kinky hair he always keep his hair bald
She is not unique
It's very common in the caribbean
@@jibrealyaaseen are you sure ?
I thought he was in the 3 type hair
I’m mixed and I have the same texture as you!!! I’m also very light complected like you. I never thought I would meet someone mixed that has the same texture as me! I even have that same 3c pattern just above my neck lol. When I was younger, my hair was like no where near 4b/4c (it was a lot looser). I got a relaxer when I was around 9-14 years old because my mom did not know how to take care of my hair curly. When I decided to go natural, I noticed my texture was a lot tighter and thicker than it was when I was younger. I love it though. It’s so beautiful and I have learned to embrace it and take care of it the right way. You are so inspiring and I will continue to watch your journey. Much love💜
You're hair is really similar to my hair. I love your hair it's gorgeous, I almost get teary eyed because it took me a while to love my hair and watching your videos since the beginning. It has really made me feel more amazing about my hair. Thank you Type 4 sounds good to me🥰😁
I sport all of the 4’s on my head 🥰🧑🏾🦱
I'm not biracial, but I am afro-latina, and I also have that random 3C patch at the back of my hair! LOL. I think my pattern matches yours. I am 4C in the front, and 4A/4B everywhere else. Wow, I never knew how to figure it out until I saw yours. Thank you.
I normally don't comment but I just find it so interesting that we literally started our journeys at the same time and practically have the same hair type(s) and it acts the same. Shoot even the location of those hair type(s) is the same as well. You are literally my hair twin!!!
First let me say, THANK YOU!! I’m LOVING this video, and your hair is absolutely GORGEOUS!! There isn’t many influencers with our hair type out here, so thanks again!! A light complected women WITH a gorgeous head of texture 4 curls and coils......It’s nice to see some representation. I’ve never been the best at doing my hair. I found it particularly frustrating trying to copy the tutorials of influencers with hair that was NOTHING like mine. Especially when I was newly natural and thinking that if I used “that” product, and “that” technique, I’d get ”that” result. It did nothing but set me up for failure, upset, frustration and ultimately the disappointment of an unattainable goal.
Honestly, this, what you’ve described in your video, THIS IS MY HAIR!! LOL Soooooooooo If anyone gets butt-hurt about labeling 4c hair......TOO BAD, SOOOOOOO SAD!! 😝 LOL
I have a 1/2 inch ring 3c running all around the perimeter of the back and sides of my hair. I have type 4 a, b & c curls. And in the crown I have type 4c coils. In the front I have weird z pattern, type 4b mixed with who-know’s-what😳🤦🏽♀️
Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE MY HAIR!!! I also firmly believe that are several types of 4c hair. Silky, In-between and Coarse, all of which can be a combination of, wavy, coily and extremely coily (where it’s hard to see the definition. The strands are frizziest, finest, prone to tangling and braking). Of course these are simply my opinions and observations of the differences between my own hair, and that of those of friends, family members.
I always put type 4 in my videos as well because my head has a bunch of different textures, even some straight pieces but.... mostly type 4 and thats how I identify. I think porosity matters the most....just my opinion. Great video!
As someone mixed, I love your channel. I see myself represented, even though we don't have the same hair type, I love hearing your experience and how you feel, and you just get it.
Same
It’s so cool to see a white passing like you with my kind of hair I love ur eyes by the way
I like to use The Green Beauty's hair typing system! It's so thorough. Your hair looks unbelievably cute in this 😭♥️
Sending love from MOMBASA Kenya. I pray you and your loved ones are all safe 😍😘😚😘😘✊❤
I think you're a mixture of type 4 also! I swore my big chop almost 4 yrs. ago was going to result in the sweetest Angela Davis-style afro, but after a spray of water and some finger coiling, I looked like a grown-@$$ chocolate Shirley Temple, lol! As my hair has grown, my curl pattern has diverged so much from the one I originally thought I had, that it's crazy. I have type 3 loose curls in front(like, scrunch in your hand to help it curl loose), 3 and 4a/b on the sides, 4a/b in the back, 4b/c at the crown, and a 4c perimeter, just to keep it interesting. I love a good twistout, and I won't dare attempt a wng at my length now(past bsl) for fear of looking like a mental patient with my wild textures and uneven-looking hair(especially in Texas heat/humidity!), though I generally bun it anyway. Like you said, Joy-el, healthy hair IS good hair, regardless of pattern! Tyfs! ♡
It’s truly amazing how genes distribute. Not even gotta lie, if your hair was straight I’d probably assume you were a white girl. I know you confuse a lot of people! But the Africa in you made itself known and you embraced it👌🏽. Love the vids. I say 4c with a little 3c/4a patch in the back.
Yeah I thought this was a white girl with a wig on lol, except for her hair and lips her features are mostly European, opened my eyes to how closed minded I may be
I thought the same thing. Honestly though, if her voice was different, I probably would've guess she was mixed. She's got a nasally white geeky sound. She cute tho 🤷
You’re wrong. 4B
I would say 4c. Once people see any semblance of a curl on 4c hair they assume it has to be something different. But just like every other hair texture and curl, we have a lot of variety too.
Plus when u take care of ur mane it just hits different. I try to tell people. Lol!
I hate to be that person but @3:22 and just in general you can tell she's not 4c. Its looks like a mixture of 4b and possibly 4a. Not say 4c doesn't have variety.( i have 4c as well) but 4c has a tighter coil along with more strinkage. Idk. It just looks like a more course 4b/4a. Could be wrong.
Clay Jensen looks like 4c with 4b . 4a is very tightly coiled ringlets
@@clayjensen3618 lol that is definately not 4b ..i have 4b hair...that is 4c hair..
Clay Jensen nah 4a hair looks wildly different from 4c my hair is 4a and looks very dissimilar to hers because her hair’s curls are so small and tight but I’d definitely say 4c because she has the s-shaped curls
I live in Africa so I see 4c everywhere in person not just on the internet. She's 4b majorly.
She has curls not coils like 4c is. No typing chart shows 4c as anything other than coils. 4b has diversity too. This is a clear zigzag pattern with a little bit with tighter 4a coils
I agree. I think you have a combo type 4 hair as do I. I also have small areas that may be type 3. No big deal cause like you said, “healthier hair is good hair.” Enjoy your vids.
Sharmaine, I have followed your natural hair journey and I must say I love your hair and the more it grows, the more gorgeous it is. I see some 3c at the nape and you have 4B, 4C and a sprinkling of 4A in other sections of your head. I meant to comment that when you did the wash and go but I didn't want to start a curl pattern war in the comment section. I'm 4A/3C and my curls remain quite visible when dry until the next wash day. You definitely have a lot of definition at the nape.
girl, we got the same texture. 4a,4b,4c and all of its glory!! im the same way, my curl pattern in the crown is very loose like 4a, it also stays defined after it dries. the top and back of my head is 4b. the middle of my nape is 4a, and the bare end of it is 4b. my temples are 4c but my edges are very loose baby hairs (which is weird). my strands are thicker in the 4a section and finer in the 4b-4c sections. when it all dries.... my temples shrink up SO MUCH.... giving the appearance that my afro is uneven. its so kinky that it literally does not curl unless i have tons of product on it. i love my hair, i primarily keep it in twists now to retain length, especially now that we're in quarantine. my go-to hairstyles are loose puffs.
I can't believe I'm just finding video. Definitely relate to defining my curl type as just type 4. I similar to you have combination of all the type 4's and maybe a little 3c at the back and it's just easier when people ask my hair type to say type 4. You're hair is gorgeous by the way.
I feel like you got all the 4 l
You're right just say Type 4 hair, don't stress it Sweetie. Many of us have multiple textures. I recently discovered this about my hair and I am in my 60's! Up until then always thought my hair was 4C but now I know better. 🥰
No Knows Hair has a great video on types and textures that goes deeper into: texture, density, porosity etc...
I too have many patterns- losser it in top front, tight coils on the temples, a random patch at my back crown that is loose kinky and coarse.
My bet is on 4C
I dont think so, I you watch a video of her doing her shampoo you will notice that her her wont shrink like a 4c hair type (like myself) i think its a 4b
You are 4F for Fine as hell.
If she's 4C, I am a 4Q
@@shannonmorris8384 Lol yea they're delusional, anything to try to claim a biracial has 4C hair or whatever reason it is to push that lie. eye roll* Charmaine is a 4B. and now the truth has come out. About damn time to. I'm just tired of people mis-labeling black folks hair and I'm even more tired when they do it to biracials.
😂😂😂😂
I think you have a lot of 4c. Maybe 4b. Beautiful hair regardless 💕💕💕💕
Your hair is absolutely beautiful. I have 4b and 4c hair. I love how you embrace your curl patterns. You are an inspiration.
I so agree with you when you said many people have different textures on their heads. I have mostly 3c but i have 3b on the top of my head and the very back and the kicker- 4a on the sides of my head! my hair looks so odd cuz the sides have so much shrinkage compared to the rest lol
Yours is very similar to mine: very fine/smooth nape area that I inherited from my grandmother 😊 just stick to type 4 girl 😉 I've noticed that as hair grows, patterns seem to change due to gravity taking hold of each strand... but like you said, as long as it's healthy it's all good 😎 stay safe & take care ❤
I have a very loose patch on the nape of my neck too. It’s always the easiest to comb and style. It also doesn’t fall in line with the rest of my hair and the shrinkage is different. It always hangs lower 🤦🏾♀️
That shadow is for YOU!!! Really pops your eyes
I feel your struggle. I just say type 4 too cause idk 😂
It looks like 4b/4c beautiful hair
You are absolutely gorgeous! It’s so refreshing to see the true diversity that exists in the human race when everyone isn’t trying to look one way. 😍 thank you for embracing the way God and nature made you! I appreciate the beauty!!
I’ve got the exact same situation with my hair! I have all 3 types of type 4 on my head with the front being the softest and more curly than coily looking. For that reason it looks odd when I try to wear my hair in a fro. At least I think it does anyways
This is about the 1 of the few youtubers i've found exactly like my hair type, it's clearly 4C maybe a mixture of 4b at the back, but mainly 4C, mine is also the same, i don't think anyone had one curl pattern anyway. I feel like i'm watching tutorials for my hair, finally! Instead of others tryinh to manipulate their hair to be 4A/4B or looser. I feel like people associate 4C with just dry undefined hair, but this is an example of moisturised healthy 4C hair! Especially when wet or conditioner in it you can see you curls pop more but then when it's dry not as visible and yeah her hair didn't shrink as much because her hair is longggg now, look at her old video.
4C is not limited to just being fully black, i think people confuse the take down of braids or dry, pending a well needed deep conditioner for being 4C hair, not looked after hair, constantly put into protective styles to avoid taking care of it and hidden under weaves when that is just dry, not nourished hair!! 4C is hard work but this type of hair needs extra care compared to other hair types and this is a clear example of 4C hair being well taken care of, but quickly dismissed as being 4B or 4A because it looks well moisturised and you can see definition when wet. If i could show you my 4C hair when i neglected with weaves/ protective styles for long periods of time, to now, you will know what i mean.
4C is beautiful lets embrace it! I love how it's like the most unique hair textures of all! I love how she's embracing and showing how she works with it.
I would say 4C. It’s beautiful 😍
4B
AnastasiaLUVSU right
teahgurl her hair is definitely 4c with some 4b 🤷🏾♀️ I think me and her have the same hair type 😩
That's some thick, healthy beautiful hair!!!
It’s 4B but you have some 4A in parts... Wet hair reveals type best. I’m 4B too. Hard to determine type 4 hair bc ppl use hair texture to classify which is incorrect. I can’t wait til I get to your length! It’s so beautiful.
thats not 4b hair..its mostly 4c..people wrongly assumeme 4c cant have a coil pattern when moisturised...
Tosin Ojo Huh? A friend of mine has 4C hair that coils all over ... I know 4C coils and can even clump some. 4B hair isn’t “coily” per say bc it has a different pattern... a z pattern. Where do you really see coils on her head? Wet and dry? I’m just saying but I’m not about to debate bc really the hair typing system is flawed.
I agree. This is the first time I'm seeing people argue about 4c having zigzag curls when there is clearly a category for that. 4c has tight coils. She is mostly 4b
That's definitely 4A. That's us, lol. My hair grows up, and out. It shrinks my curls are more loose in the back and tight. As it gets longer, it gets more defined and looser.
💖✨ My hair is just like yours, and I couldn't figure mine out either! Just like you, I concluded that my hair is 4b as well-- with very soft baby hairs in the front and back-- then it turns very coarse towards the middle.✨ CONFUSING!!! But I'm so glad that I caught your video because I KNOW that I'm not 4c. And just like you, I'm probably somewhere between 4a and 4b. 💋 (Yes... I'm trying to figure it out, too.) ✨
I'm thinking....."Whatever...That is Gorgeous."
I love you and your hair 😍😍😍
Same🙂
You have a rock star fro. I'm actually combing my locs out now after 3 years to see mine again,I miss queen fro
Before I tought you were 4c but I think you are 4b
I told her, i was saying it the whole time. She's a 4B.
Definitely 4B
We have the same
Hair
Type😁
She's 4c .
Yeah because she doesn't really have coils it's more of a zig zag pattern
You are literally my hair twin team confused hair texture 😩😩😩
I have a theory. Hear me out. I think you have 4C middle and 4A-B all around the front, sides, and back due to wearing your hair in high puffs. Usually we stretch our hair when pulling it up high or back and it relaxes the curl a bit from the stretching. Just a thought because you asked! You hair is gorgeous, so I don't care how you type it!! 🐞🦋💯
You know I think I’ve been thinking that for a while like the more you manipulate your curls it does change the pattern but if you don’t do anything to it like leave it in a fro it would stay consistent
As long as you can find products that work with your hair type it really doesn't matter what category your hair falls under. I think this hair type chart is totally unhelpful and just causes confusion. My hair doesn't seem to fit the typing system at all as it is frizzy and kinky but I know what it likes product wise. I think afro hair personally goes further than 4c and if you look at various people around, be it men or women with their natural hair, you will see the different kinks and textures we all have.
You appear to be 4b, but that won't be very apparent until you have more growth. Curly and kinky hair often starts getting a looser pattern if the hair grows longer because the length begins to loosen the curl pattern. You don't have the very long length but your growth abundant and it shows in the fullness of your hair.
I kept cutting the crown of my hair cause it’s so much looser, finer and tangles more than the rest of my natural 4c hair cause I thought it was permanently damaged from the relaxer even after being relaxer free for 3 years. I did that until I started watching UA-cam and kept hearing other natural sisters stating that they had different curl patterns all throughout their hair. So that gave me the understanding that the middle of my hair the middle of my probably just doing what it natural is supposed. So I stopped cutting it. Am glad you didn’t do what I did lol 🤣😂😅.
Sis u look like my sister from another mother ! Same skin complection and same type of hair that’s crazy !!! 🤩 love it !
omg finally i see someone with my exact same hair only my loose patch is in the front of my head.
i have the same hair type as yours. literally! so i can relate when you dont have a specific type
Hair from people of African descent, in all its various textures is by far the most interesting.
You've just described my hair exactly! You are a big help in my process, too.
I see a combination of all 4s. Your hair is beautiful!
You are not alone on having multi-4 type hair. I am the same way and so is my son. Your hair is beautiful. Also, what you eat can affect the multi-4 hair.
I can totally relate with you. I have 3c on my sides and nape, then 4a from my crown to the front of my head.each section of my hair has to be treated differently because the hair types respond to products differently. Thanks so much for this video 🙂👍🏽
It's funny, the more you use the clay, the more your curls will clump together and become more defined. The first time I did it, my hair barely clumped but after a week of doing the max hydration method, it got much much curlier and now it defines quite easily.
My hair is very similar, 3c 4a in very back, 4a in front, barely shrinks but doesn't define as well just hangs lol but middle and sides are def 4b maybe even a little 4c. Very dense, lots of strands. Takes an age to detangle. The most beautiful thing on my body.
When you use the clay, make it heavy enough to weigh your hair down and put it on clean washed hair, that way it draws out the toxins better.
Never thought I'd love my hair so much. But now I have to fight myself to leavebot alone because it were up to me, I'd play in it every day lol.
I've had so much fun with wash and go's but it causes single strand knots and then I have to trim more often.
I want length now so I'm having to leave it alone and stop wash and go's.
Already seen a big growth spurt this year. Even after a trim, it's still down to boob lenth lol. Want bra strap by the end of the year!
Protection protection protection!
Is that with bentonite clay ?
Your hair is like mines that's why I love your channel.
You have beautiful hair. I have a combo too of different type 4s. The back of my hair is the most dense while the front is a loser curl. The crown is the thinnest. I wish mine was more dense like yours.
I'm watching my hair grow back from a short cut and I'm seeing changes in texture too. It's quite interesting. I'm 4b with some 4a and high porosity
You're just like me! My hair is a mixture of all four 🙌
I think your hair is 4C. You have to understand that because of your skin color, people are going to try to see 4A but if you were darkskin, there would be no doubt in people's minds. 4C hair is beautiful. It's also what makes you stand out. You should never deny your roots to make people happy. It's obvious you have 4C hair.
I def can relate to different textures in my hair. I, too have to use a lit of product toward the front, the crown is more kinkier and the back is a looser curl.
I don't think anyone has just one pattern. I think I mostly have 4a. I have a looser small S pattern on the front and top of my head, and ringlets at the back of my head about the size of a knitting needles. Then to make it interesting I have random very loose curls, probably 3b or c, in the back and sides of my head.
I think you're right and that may be why we get conflicting answers about what patterns people have
@@SharmaineJoyel I'll be honest. if people really want to know, they can go ask a professional black stylist. I however think you're mostly 4B. i never thought you were 4C. it became apparent when your sis was doing your box braids and she showed a bit of your hair in the back with product. 4C hair doesn't define at all like that.
I think you are my hair twin 😍. The way you describe your hair is the way mine is almost to a T, and we have around the same amount of length too
I'm so pleased I've stumbled upon your channel! Like its given me some confidence to finally start my own. I'm mixed race my dad is African American and my mum is white Scottish. I'm lighter skinned but I have 4a hair type. I also have a little girl who has a white father, but her hair is super duper fine and soft texture but is like a 4a curl pattern. I really want to start my own channel for other girls like us too (For ALL women may I add) but man it's nice seeing someone similar to myself and my daughter ❤
We definitely have similar hair. when I put on styling gel, I have to put a lot in as well, but when my hair is completely dry.
I only have 4a, 4a.5, and 4b with maybe a 3c/4a on the very bottom row. The middle of my head is 4a and my edges is 4a/3c. I assume the front is 4a and the back middle like before it gets looser again is like 4a.5/4b... but then that changes a lot as you may have seen in my videos.. so now I don't hairtype and just say you can visibly see my curls from a distance and my porosity is normal
Looks 4c with some 4b. I determine hair type based off individual ringlet size when moisturized or wet. Some people include shrinkage in the curl type too.
You're a mix of all Type 4. Btw, I ❤ your fro!
I think our curl patterns are diagrammed the same way on our heads. Fascinating.
This is exactly how my hair is.. down to the crown being the thickest and kinkiest with the most random patch of loose curls at the nape of my neck. We also have similar names!
Lovely too see that youre mixed and have type 4 hair i Always felt weird because i tought i was the only mixed girl with 4b hair.
So happy you did this segment! I’m a 4 type but definitely have to say I’m a mix of 4b and 4c. But it was crazy because my kids are 4a and 3c. My hubby is bald! Lol!!
That makes sense that you have a combination. The hair in the front of my head is stick straight but the middle is slightly wazy and the very back starts to curl. Your hair is so beautiful. 😍 Thick and luxurious. ❤️
I saw your video today and I love your postive truthfulness of your hairr journey and I wanted to mention that I have similar hair like yours and towards the back of my hair like yours it’s the same lose curls which blows and kinda irates me at the same time, and add I find your hair videos very encouraging 😊.
Your hair is so beautiful and looks great on you!
Your hair is so bomb!!!
Your type 4 hair is beautiful...you definitely have type 4 hair and so what i have type 4 hair and type 4 hair is GORGEOUS PERIOD
You are beautiful regardless of THE A,B,C'S of hair type!!
I can’t see how people think your hair is 4a to even go as far as to say anything in the 3s tho. Like I think you just have healthy moisturized 4c for the most part because your hair is super similar to mine and I am 1000% 4c with a random part of the right side of my head as 4b. Just recently now have it under control by strengthening and moisturizing it(low porosity is a struggle 😪) and it has a bit more definition and just..idk how to describe it. Not looking so crunchy? Lmao. Great video btw!
Did you not see the loser stands in her head? shes definitely not just 4C. that much is obvious. Shes mostly 4B.
@Kayla Naomi Bitch shut up. What "self hate"? You tryhards use those words so much it means absolutely nothing now. I said what i said. It's been a month. And im not in everybody's comments fyi. Have a good day.
I think you have majority 4C hair, the crown being the nappiest part and the nape the softest. My hair is exactly like yours and just getting a comb through it is a Herculean task. There’s no equivocation when it’s dry, therefore for me it’s 4C.
Omg finally another mixed person with my hair texture. 😢
This video made me so happy! Not only did i enjoy listening to you but my name is Joy as well and I just started figuring out what my natural hair type is which is a mix of 4a, b, and c! Thankyou for sharing! You are beautiful!
I feel like the type 4 hair, especially 4c category has mini-categories in it. Because your hair does look 4c, but it doesn't look like mine which is also 4c...the three type 4 hair categories don't cover all the type 4 hair textures people have
I feel this way too. Mine is either 4b or 4c, but doesn't quite resemble any of the type 4s seen in hair typing diagrams