@@mantkle deepwoken just, unfortunately, doesn't have a big enough focus on story to do anything other than books. i think the main problem is the playerbase though, the pvp community are a loud minority, but they are a LOOUUUD minority, when there's a poll the PvE stuff wins, but for basically anything else, like any discussion, the PvP community seems to be the biggest part. if they added this quest for the dormant splinter as a sort of story line where the story was told in an actually interesting way that makes you think, the deepwoken players trying to get the new weapon and leave with it before it gets nerfed the next week would be complaining that they have to sit through story, the game has been incredibly toned down in terms of it's world and lore, to the point where we don't even get to buy things organically anymore, instead every piece of training equipment is in a locker, and most of the community don't care at all. that's why we aren't getting interesting things. that's just deepwoken.
@random6498 at least we got confirmation from arch that the year counter isn't canon, just a thing to keep track of seasons, so in theory the lore still makes sense. Lord Regent has not been in etris for 300 years yay Hopefully once world events are out they'll actually give us a story, as they've showed us they can still cook
@random6498 but the books have like a lot of story to them, they aren't just written randomly but i lowkey fw some like the coldheart one and they DO listen to pvp players especially testers youtubers etc but they usually just add whatever tf they want. also "story" as in a quest like dukes is obviously lame because its a fetch quest but thats y they add QOL thinks like leaving training items in lockers or having to only unlock a main stat once
This is likely a reference to "Warbreaker", a series where five scholars, two of which, a man and a woman created a living blade that bleeds black smoke(shadowcast). It is named NIGHTBLOOD, the same name of the potion you get from shadowcast from. Deepwoken has referenced this author multiple times.
The man they owe is probably doctor carrion, I feel like that would make more sense, as he is described as crazy, while chaser isn't really characterized this way.
@@ermesmetal Some other references are: names in selection screen are characters, ShardBow Bell is a reference to ShardBlades from "The Stormlight Archive" of the same author, and DawnShot being the name of a detective that uses guns in "Mistborn" by the same author
@@ermesmetal In warbreaker, like you theorized about lifeweave, the power of life is only transferred, not created. When a blade is "Awakened" (book term for tranferring life into it), it becomes sharper, able to cut through stone like butter. I think this is the "LifeWoven Blades" in the lore book.
You explained it so well, I could barely understand the lore myself 😭 I’m glad the lore is actually quality though, full of concepts I’ve never known of
Fortinbras and us were both missing a piece of the puzzle, just different pieces... Fortinbras was missing the splinter, and we were missing Dierdre. She's the key.
God I love these lore videos so much. I don't really play deepwoken because it's a little too complicated for me but I know the game has good lore. Honestly you are slowly becoming the vaatividya of deepwoken
Thanks for making this video, trying to read that book while you're in the depths is like tryring to read chinese, this book is supposed to contain a clue on how to solve the mystery of the sword but even though I understood most of the story I can't figure out what the clue is, the only thing that comes to mind is bladeharper but I doubt it has anything to do with it, the end of the video where you mention how we finished off Fortimbras made me feel a bit sorry, honestly...
yeaaah the formatting of the book was iffy and it had a couple errors, so i took some liberties. the clue is probably something to do with wiping a player in the forge if i were to take a wild guess
Your videos are absolutely incredible and makes me happy to see the depth of this game in terms of lore & gameplay. I hope deepwoken still expands their lore for more videos like this!
Im glad they actually decided to do lore this update, i can only assume its cause arch mage worked on the update solo that theres so much lore involved, i hope they make a way for u to spare the guy who gives you the weapon and awaken the splinter that way
that subtle nod to the man they kept sending scouts to, who supposedly lost his mind, is maybe the bloodrend user or chaser? if it was chaser, it might be really good lore for him as a character, its hard to believe every character is just some power hungry being. Pleeksty for instance seemed like a bit of a goofball from what ive seen, like eating a flower (part of a drowned god, but if it was without that knowledge, thats just goofy, and if it was with this knowledge of being part of a drowned god, then still goofy because my first thought of eating a drowned god would be instant death, insanity, or maybe power) and he has good dance moves, and doesnt see his followers as anything more than a fan club, signifying his distaste for the thought of him being some sort of deity. not only this but he shared his gift of flamecharm with others, unlike the second prophet who invented bloodrend and only gifted to a select few who followed in their cult. it makes me wonder what chaser might have wanted from siding with the ministry?
I just realized, the community trying to figure out how to craft this weapon is kinda like carrying that dudes will, and we did find it, the new weapon using a razor cutless, 5 umbrite, and a dormant splinter, we put her soul into that weapon which is why the crit has skulls
I can see Archmage possibly taking inspiration from Neon Genesis Evangelion's contact experiments. A contact experiment is not clearly defined, however the one I see that Archmage took inspiration from is Yui and Eva 01's contact experiment, where Yui (a character) attempted to in some way merge with Eva 01 (giant with mech armor) however it goes wrong and her soul is absorbed into Eva 01, which sounds similar to Dee's soul being trapped in the mechanical components.
After hearing this video, surely the natural implication is that when the dormant splinter is awoken, Deidre’s soul will fuse with the weapon, “awakening” it into something akin to the gran sudaruska. New shadow legendary maybe?
@@ermesmetal I highly think either more awakenings are going to be added or the witherblade isn’t the true form. Because it sucks, like the weapon is not good in a coventionak sense even as a legendary. Like if I got it from ferryman it would be treated like a stormseye. My bet is that the drowned gods use umbrite to form their avatars. The dormant splinters essentially being “drafts” if you will that never made the cut. Floating to the surface and drifting through the void sea before being eaten by the dread serpent or collected by the ministry and stored within their outposts in the void. I personally think them dropping from Sara mead is a bug or somthing just put to make getting them easier. Although ferryman may have taken the task upon himself to return them to the depths lest the mortals siphon the drowned gods power and awaken the true variant of the song. Even if it’s sealed within a weapon.
So basically, from what im hearing. We need to absorb his wifes soul, or im guessing we could also absorb another soul for the "more of a joke path" is what im getting. And his wife is not in the cold forge, but a corpse somewhere we could find.
Considering what you said that the guy who holds hailbreaker that you fight to obtain it (forgot his name) friend or wife that he believes soul is trapped inside the coldheart. Whether that true or not, it holds some weight for revealing how to unlock the weapons potential, putting a soul, or maybe his wife's soul inside of the blade. How to do this though is whats troubling, all the pieces of the puzzle are clearly there but somethings missing maybe
the thing is i think she is there and the Dormant Splinter will just absorb her into the blade and that will evolve the Dormant Splinter just my thoughts tho
Use jar of souls with dormant splinter grip something that meets a requirement like a npc or player is my theory or maybe you have to find a way to befriend the hailbreaker dude and he can tell you where dedrie's soul can be put on the dormant splinter
10:50 wouldn't someone else like dr. carrion be a better match? unlike chaser carrion matches being a crazy black diver stuck in new kyrsa, with the book also being written quite a ways back it would also be referencing carrion as a more sane person before he was trapped in layer 2. (also vyrelda says to have defected from the ministry after learning bloodrend, chaser never taught her how to use it)
i think that’s a decent possibility - i assumed it’d be chaser due to his knowledge of vyrelda. the divers are also reportedly sending ‘scouts’ to retrieve this person - something we KNOW they have sent for chaser. perhaps they’ve sent scouts after carrion, but that’s unconfirmed. there’s also no reason for carrion to know vyrelda without ministry ties iirc - as well as the “I can’t just walk up to a Prophet” line simply just pointing me in the direction of chaser. i do get your point for sure though
Since fortinbras (?) went to bloodrend for guidance and it only says that the trainer didn't have any solid clue on how to transfer the soul, it could have to do with bloodrend itself, maybe in a way we wouldn't initially suspect?
Honestly, this whole thing with Fortinbras confuses me cause the Dormant Splinter (by the name) seems to me to be a sealed form of the Splinterblade, which was the King of Etris's sword, unless that's a retcon now or these are completely different weapons, I don't understand how the Cold Forge and everything about it tie into this weapon
Also, from the red text it seemed like me managed to store her soul into the splinter but deeply regrets it. I think the reason he geeks out so much is that fact that you are pretty much using his comatose wife's soul as a beating stick
@@ermesmetalmaybe she's the monster form the leaks since it looks like it's a mech kinda thing and fortinbras mentions how she's just pipes metal n stuff now
What if theres some link to the moon knights? (I have no clue what i puffed to think of this but hear me out) moon knights are the only semi-natural mob to drop umbrite. The dormant GARBAGE-i mean splinter is made of umbrite. Its obvious Fortinbras didnt make it, so who did? Now heres my theory: Fortinbras thinks the Splinter is able to hold souls. An UMBRITE weapon being able to hold souls. What do the moon knights drop besides astral stones? Umbrite. What if moon knights are souls trapped in the splinter given another form? Since one of the main ways to get the splinter is Voidsea farming, what if moon knights are KRULIANS BOUND TO THE MOONS EYRIE!?
moon knights being souls trapped in the splinter is too far of a logical leap for me to believe but i do think there’s some connection going on with the splinter and the moon knights
excuse the garbage gameplay, i burnt my fingers lmfao. also still figuring out how i want to handle longer videos like this but expect them more often
are you ok?
@powerfuldirtblock8793 why.. why wouldn't he be?
*sigh* garage gameplay as always no wonder you were so bad at JToH
“No, Dee, you can’t be like her. Sudaruska is too built different.”
"Nah, i'd bossraid"
Dang, this update's lore is actually really good.
honestly a great surprise
in the form of another book
@@mantkle deepwoken just, unfortunately, doesn't have a big enough focus on story to do anything other than books. i think the main problem is the playerbase though, the pvp community are a loud minority, but they are a LOOUUUD minority, when there's a poll the PvE stuff wins, but for basically anything else, like any discussion, the PvP community seems to be the biggest part. if they added this quest for the dormant splinter as a sort of story line where the story was told in an actually interesting way that makes you think, the deepwoken players trying to get the new weapon and leave with it before it gets nerfed the next week would be complaining that they have to sit through story, the game has been incredibly toned down in terms of it's world and lore, to the point where we don't even get to buy things organically anymore, instead every piece of training equipment is in a locker, and most of the community don't care at all. that's why we aren't getting interesting things. that's just deepwoken.
@random6498 at least we got confirmation from arch that the year counter isn't canon, just a thing to keep track of seasons, so in theory the lore still makes sense. Lord Regent has not been in etris for 300 years yay
Hopefully once world events are out they'll actually give us a story, as they've showed us they can still cook
@random6498 but the books have like a lot of story to them, they aren't just written randomly but i lowkey fw some like the coldheart one and they DO listen to pvp players especially testers youtubers etc but they usually just add whatever tf they want. also "story" as in a quest like dukes is obviously lame because its a fetch quest but thats y they add QOL thinks like leaving training items in lockers or having to only unlock a main stat once
This is likely a reference to "Warbreaker", a series where five scholars, two of which, a man and a woman created a living blade that bleeds black smoke(shadowcast). It is named NIGHTBLOOD, the same name of the potion you get from shadowcast from. Deepwoken has referenced this author multiple times.
this is very helpful. i’ll look into this
The man they owe is probably doctor carrion, I feel like that would make more sense, as he is described as crazy, while chaser isn't really characterized this way.
@@standiq2672 yeah chaser would have just tried killing him if it was him so carrion makes more sence
@@ermesmetal Some other references are: names in selection screen are characters, ShardBow Bell is a reference to ShardBlades from "The Stormlight Archive" of the same author, and DawnShot being the name of a detective that uses guns in "Mistborn" by the same author
@@ermesmetal In warbreaker, like you theorized about lifeweave, the power of life is only transferred, not created. When a blade is "Awakened" (book term for tranferring life into it), it becomes sharper, able to cut through stone like butter. I think this is the "LifeWoven Blades" in the lore book.
gran + fractine + splinter + 10 of every ore + random bruteforce
fr?
Those who know
we got at least 300 fractines from the GRIND the SPLINTER GRIND HELL YEAH BIG WIN BIG WIN BIG WIN 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
Gran+fractine+10 splinters+ every dormant ore
Arch_Mage has definitely written a few SCP articles.
You explained it so well, I could barely understand the lore myself 😭 I’m glad the lore is actually quality though, full of concepts I’ve never known of
Fortinbras and us were both missing a piece of the puzzle, just different pieces... Fortinbras was missing the splinter, and we were missing Dierdre. She's the key.
God I love these lore videos so much. I don't really play deepwoken because it's a little too complicated for me but I know the game has good lore. Honestly you are slowly becoming the vaatividya of deepwoken
what a complement! thank you :)
ion know if anyones mentioned this yet but this feels linked to lifeweave with the transferring of souls
book also talks about lifewoven blades
i like how you try to express the character's emotion and tone with your voice when reading
Thanks for making this video, trying to read that book while you're in the depths is like tryring to read chinese, this book is supposed to contain a clue on how to solve the mystery of the sword but even though I understood most of the story I can't figure out what the clue is, the only thing that comes to mind is bladeharper but I doubt it has anything to do with it, the end of the video where you mention how we finished off Fortimbras made me feel a bit sorry, honestly...
yeaaah the formatting of the book was iffy and it had a couple errors, so i took some liberties. the clue is probably something to do with wiping a player in the forge if i were to take a wild guess
Wth abt lifeweave...?@@ermesmetal
@@ermesmetal then they whent and made it a crafting recipe
Your videos are absolutely incredible and makes me happy to see the depth of this game in terms of lore & gameplay. I hope deepwoken still expands their lore for more videos like this!
Devs finally think abt the lore
Im glad they actually decided to do lore this update, i can only assume its cause arch mage worked on the update solo that theres so much lore involved, i hope they make a way for u to spare the guy who gives you the weapon and awaken the splinter that way
agreed!
Is bro just Mr freeze
basically yeah
He really sounds like mr. freeze
that subtle nod to the man they kept sending scouts to, who supposedly lost his mind, is maybe the bloodrend user or chaser? if it was chaser, it might be really good lore for him as a character, its hard to believe every character is just some power hungry being. Pleeksty for instance seemed like a bit of a goofball from what ive seen, like eating a flower (part of a drowned god, but if it was without that knowledge, thats just goofy, and if it was with this knowledge of being part of a drowned god, then still goofy because my first thought of eating a drowned god would be instant death, insanity, or maybe power) and he has good dance moves, and doesnt see his followers as anything more than a fan club, signifying his distaste for the thought of him being some sort of deity. not only this but he shared his gift of flamecharm with others, unlike the second prophet who invented bloodrend and only gifted to a select few who followed in their cult. it makes me wonder what chaser might have wanted from siding with the ministry?
where did you get this info about pleeksty from
holy this channel is underrated, great work 👍
the goat listens to peggy someone give him a million dollars
simply peak music
frostdraw my beloved
I just realized, the community trying to figure out how to craft this weapon is kinda like carrying that dudes will, and we did find it, the new weapon using a razor cutless, 5 umbrite, and a dormant splinter, we put her soul into that weapon which is why the crit has skulls
in my defense, he jumped me in the depths
his voice is so perfect for reading that 😭😭
I can see Archmage possibly taking inspiration from Neon Genesis Evangelion's contact experiments. A contact experiment is not clearly defined, however the one I see that Archmage took inspiration from is Yui and Eva 01's contact experiment, where Yui (a character) attempted to in some way merge with Eva 01 (giant with mech armor) however it goes wrong and her soul is absorbed into Eva 01, which sounds similar to Dee's soul being trapped in the mechanical components.
After hearing this video, surely the natural implication is that when the dormant splinter is awoken, Deidre’s soul will fuse with the weapon, “awakening” it into something akin to the gran sudaruska. New shadow legendary maybe?
i like that idea!
Razor cutlass
@@ermesmetal I highly think either more awakenings are going to be added or the witherblade isn’t the true form. Because it sucks, like the weapon is not good in a coventionak sense even as a legendary. Like if I got it from ferryman it would be treated like a stormseye. My bet is that the drowned gods use umbrite to form their avatars. The dormant splinters essentially being “drafts” if you will that never made the cut. Floating to the surface and drifting through the void sea before being eaten by the dread serpent or collected by the ministry and stored within their outposts in the void. I personally think them dropping from Sara mead is a bug or somthing just put to make getting them easier. Although ferryman may have taken the task upon himself to return them to the depths lest the mortals siphon the drowned gods power and awaken the true variant of the song. Even if it’s sealed within a weapon.
my glorious British king did it so quickly
damn that lore is actually peak of deewoken lore
YAAAY ERMESMETAL POSTED
the COLD FORGE
"I cant bring you back." 👻
very good banger this will god willing help me get through this once and for all
Good vid as always, VaatiVidya of Deepwoken.
Has anybody talk to the Lightborn chilling at the lake in New Kyrsa with the splinter equipped?
So basically, from what im hearing. We need to absorb his wifes soul, or im guessing we could also absorb another soul for the "more of a joke path" is what im getting. And his wife is not in the cold forge, but a corpse somewhere we could find.
that’s an interesting theory
thought he says she dosen't have mouth,ears, nor eyes so i think it might be the forge
@@petitlonair3098 That could just be his insanity kicking in though.
More lore videos like this, amazing content. Liked and subbed.
why was bro's lore so peak 🙏
Considering what you said that the guy who holds hailbreaker that you fight to obtain it (forgot his name) friend or wife that he believes soul is trapped inside the coldheart. Whether that true or not, it holds some weight for revealing how to unlock the weapons potential, putting a soul, or maybe his wife's soul inside of the blade. How to do this though is whats troubling, all the pieces of the puzzle are clearly there but somethings missing maybe
the thing is i think she is there and the Dormant Splinter will just absorb her into the blade and that will evolve the Dormant Splinter just my thoughts tho
Use jar of souls with dormant splinter grip something that meets a requirement like a npc or player is my theory or maybe you have to find a way to befriend the hailbreaker dude and he can tell you where dedrie's soul can be put on the dormant splinter
im a tad late but have you ever considered putting every video you have made into ONE big video
Imagine you need to capture Chaser or someone other significant with jar of souls and then use that to awaken the sword or something
interesting idea
the point is to put the jit in the forge into the sword.. not chaser or anyone else.. 😭
@@anthonyserrt151 can I put you in my jar of souls to awaken my dormant splinter
10:50 wouldn't someone else like dr. carrion be a better match? unlike chaser carrion matches being a crazy black diver stuck in new kyrsa, with the book also being written quite a ways back it would also be referencing carrion as a more sane person before he was trapped in layer 2. (also vyrelda says to have defected from the ministry after learning bloodrend, chaser never taught her how to use it)
i think that’s a decent possibility - i assumed it’d be chaser due to his knowledge of vyrelda. the divers are also reportedly sending ‘scouts’ to retrieve this person - something we KNOW they have sent for chaser. perhaps they’ve sent scouts after carrion, but that’s unconfirmed. there’s also no reason for carrion to know vyrelda without ministry ties iirc - as well as the “I can’t just walk up to a Prophet” line simply just pointing me in the direction of chaser. i do get your point for sure though
The history is amazing
W video keep making these
Since fortinbras (?) went to bloodrend for guidance and it only says that the trainer didn't have any solid clue on how to transfer the soul, it could have to do with bloodrend itself, maybe in a way we wouldn't initially suspect?
perhaps!
It's not locked behind an oath or attunement according to toons or Arch i think
I'm thinking in a cruel twist of fate she became the forge
Honestly, this whole thing with Fortinbras confuses me cause the Dormant Splinter (by the name) seems to me to be a sealed form of the Splinterblade, which was the King of Etris's sword, unless that's a retcon now or these are completely different weapons, I don't understand how the Cold Forge and everything about it tie into this weapon
i mean we don’t know what happened to the king of etris whatsoever so there could be a decent explanation at hand
i think the name similarity was just bait to make us think of the king 🤷
I have noticed improvements in your hops. Next video with KZ for background footage?
Also, from the red text it seemed like me managed to store her soul into the splinter but deeply regrets it. I think the reason he geeks out so much is that fact that you are pretty much using his comatose wife's soul as a beating stick
i could certainly try 😭
This man likes vultures 2, deserved like
Why cant we give him the bladeeee 😭
So basically hes a real guy that misses his wife
yeah that’s about it
Any1 tried walking up to him with the weapon held out (not equipped?)
Didn’t the devs say there wasn’t an awakening but a utility instead
very insightful ❤
glad to hear it!
4:39 Bro I was like what the flip??? Deirdre's my MOM's Name
was your father named fortinbras
So essentially, Dierdre needs to be found. From what I can see she's the only fitting match for the Dormant Splinter. Where is she?
perhaps there’s a way to draw her out if her soul IS in the cold forge? or perhaps we need to find her remains? we’ll see
@@ermesmetalmaybe she's the monster form the leaks since it looks like it's a mech kinda thing and fortinbras mentions how she's just pipes metal n stuff now
@@AoharuObby that new mob is basically confirmed to the be The Voice of Enmity
@@morek1897 oh cool
Imagine them making waifu splinter path, it'd be kinda good
0:25 dude this is not a LONG video, how bad is the average attention span these days smh
😭😭😭
what about the cake
Let’s Not Talk About It
There's 2 way you can use the dormant splinter one of theme is the cake
Is she gran? Hol on
What abt the soul behind yun'shul, bc yunshul is not physically in layer 1
i find that concept interesting but there’s not enough behind it to make a compelling video
What if theres some link to the moon knights? (I have no clue what i puffed to think of this but hear me out) moon knights are the only semi-natural mob to drop umbrite. The dormant GARBAGE-i mean splinter is made of umbrite. Its obvious Fortinbras didnt make it, so who did? Now heres my theory: Fortinbras thinks the Splinter is able to hold souls. An UMBRITE weapon being able to hold souls. What do the moon knights drop besides astral stones? Umbrite. What if moon knights are souls trapped in the splinter given another form? Since one of the main ways to get the splinter is Voidsea farming, what if moon knights are KRULIANS BOUND TO THE MOONS EYRIE!?
moon knights being souls trapped in the splinter is too far of a logical leap for me to believe but i do think there’s some connection going on with the splinter and the moon knights
@ermesmetal We make our own lore at this point js believe and trust 💀💀💀
Jpegmafia my beloved
Warner Bros calling
Try blindseer + rhythm murmur ti see if you can see or hear anything from the forge.
Oh, and also equip a gran just to see if there's any special dialogue idk lol
wow fortinbra sounds like a mirror world version of a certain boohoo my wife is dead guy
Any blade harper lore?
i could give it a shot!
@ermesmetal that would be cool, cus this video reminded of it, like when you progress the oath you go into a dimension with ur weapon
Bro is NOT VaatiVidya
(Jk although the way you carry yourself out and talk does remind me of him)
You cooked
hi
hi
love the streams bossman you’ll crack the case on the splinter soon enough
its throbbing your name in morse code ermes...
W Jpegmafia instrumental
thanks gang
So i assume the witherblade is not the actual awakening of dormant splinter
Anti spiral
buh huh my wife is dead ahh character