Kineon Move+ Pro Review: Targeted Red Light For Joints?

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  • Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
  • Below I've included all the products I mention in this Kineon Move+ Pro Review:
    ✅ For a Move+ Pro from Kineon, use discount code AFERGUSMOVE+ for 10% off and the following link: aferg.co/kineon - upcoming products will be added soon to the Kineon offerings
    ✅ For the Kineon website, go here: aferg.co/kineon
    ✅ For a Mito Red MitoPRO 300 or Mito Mobile FLEX use this link and code ALEX5: aferg.co/7d221
    ✅ The Thor laser products: www.novothor.com/ - no discount available unfortunately
    Next up, all the resources I mention in this Kineon Move+ Pro Review, as well as other red light therapy resources:
    ✅ My epic Facebook group on red light therapy and more: aferg.co/fb-group
    ✅ The pulsing article on the Alex Fergus website, which takes a deep dive into the topic: aferg.co/pulsing
    ✅ The 810nm wavelength cheatsheet telling you all the health effects 810nm light has: aferg.co/810nm-blog
    ✅ My MitoADAPT Min review: aferg.co/mito-adapt-min-review
    ✅ Full playlist of my 2022 body panel red light therapy comparison series with all episodes: aferg.co/RLT-2021-playlist - if you're short on time then check out the summary episode towards the end of the playlist
    ✅ My excel sheet for comparing different panels to their competition: aferg.co/rlt-data
    ✅ For my red light therapy buyer's guide blog, follow this link: aferg.co/RLTguide
    ✅ My red light testing methodology for reviews video: aferg.co/rlt-testing-method
    ✅ My red light therapy blog with many deep dive articles: aferg.co/redlightblog
    I hope you liked my Kineon Move+ Pro Review! The Move+ Pro is a strapped red light therapy for joints device containing lasers and LEDs. The Move+ has been made to emit light directly into the synovial joints, thereby gaining deeper penetration, partially due to red light therapy pulsing, which emits 660nm and 805nm light. Also, if you want to buy a Move+ Pro from Kineon, use discount code AFERGUS10 for 10% off and the following link: aferg.co/kineon - upcoming products will be added soon to the Kineon offerings.
    #kineon #redlighttherapy #treatment
    00:00 Kineon Move+ Introduction
    00:47 Move+ LEDs & Lasers
    02:00 Wavelength & Power Testing
    03:40 Dosing Protocols & Price
    04:53 My Likes
    07:14 My Dislikes
    09:38 Who Should Buy?
    10:47 Comparison To Competition
    12:33 Kineon CEO Interview

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  • @AlexFergusdotcom
    @AlexFergusdotcom  Рік тому +6

    Below I've included all the products I mention in this Kineon Move+ Pro Review:
    ✅ For a Move+ Pro from Kineon, use discount code AFERGUSMOVE+ for 10% off and the following link: aferg.co/kineon - upcoming products will be added soon to the Kineon offerings
    ✅ For the Kineon website, go here: aferg.co/kineon
    ✅ For a Mito Red MitoPRO 300 or Mito Mobile FLEX use this link and code ALEX5: aferg.co/7d221
    ✅ The Thor laser products: www.novothor.com/ - no discount available unfortunately
    Next up, all the resources I mention in this Kineon Move+ Pro Review, as well as other red light therapy resources:
    ✅ My epic Facebook group on red light therapy and more: aferg.co/fb-group
    ✅ The pulsing article on the Alex Fergus website, which takes a deep dive into the topic: aferg.co/pulsing
    ✅ The 810nm wavelength cheatsheet telling you all the health effects 810nm light has: aferg.co/810nm-blog
    ✅ My MitoADAPT Min review: aferg.co/mito-adapt-min-review
    ✅ Full playlist of my 2022 body panel red light therapy comparison series with all episodes: aferg.co/RLT-2021-playlist - if you're short on time then check out the summary episode towards the end of the playlist
    ✅ My excel sheet for comparing different panels to their competition: aferg.co/rlt-data
    ✅ For my red light therapy buyer's guide blog, follow this link: aferg.co/RLTguide
    ✅ My red light testing methodology for reviews video: aferg.co/rlt-testing-method
    ✅ My red light therapy blog with many deep dive articles: aferg.co/redlightblog

    • @BWentland
      @BWentland 5 місяців тому

      FYI your code is not working anymore

  • @CompSource
    @CompSource Рік тому +15

    For me, when I turn 1 on, they all turn on! They have directions to resync them. BTW, I have a full-body red light panel and this works so much better for bad knees!

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Рік тому +5

      Yup you are right. Mine were out of sync! Curious, what full body panel do you have?

  • @seanwyatt2052
    @seanwyatt2052 11 місяців тому +1

    Great review and interview with the founder. I just ordered one because of your content. My target tissues are around my ankles following Achilles repair surgery. I have had great success with cold lasers in the past.

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  10 місяців тому

      Hey thanks for the comment and support. All the best with your rehab!

  • @billtullock125
    @billtullock125 Рік тому +11

    I own this unit. The lights ARE synchronized - one button turns them all on or off. BUT they can get out- of- sync if you use them individually. If you look on the web instruction manual, there is a procedure to re-synchronize them. I am using the Move on my knee, I also like it but the strap could be improved.

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Рік тому +3

      Ahhh got it! I'll resync mine. Thanks for this.
      Yeah the strap needs some work.

    • @brianbrinegar6086
      @brianbrinegar6086 7 місяців тому

      Agree - the strap could be improved....

  • @lenorelohman3593
    @lenorelohman3593 10 місяців тому +5

    Oh please keep doing these vids!

  • @drb8197
    @drb8197 Рік тому +4

    Nice review mate

  • @garypond3451
    @garypond3451 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for this and your other red light therapy videos. I just ordered one, hoping against hope, it will facilitate healing of a very stubborn knee meniscus tear and avoid surgery. My hopes are not high but maybe it will at least help reduce associated referral pain.

  • @juicytootie-de3kk
    @juicytootie-de3kk Рік тому +9

    I bought the biomax450 with your code! Thanks! This Kineon looks good to be used on my dog’s joints.

    • @bexkilby1415
      @bexkilby1415 Рік тому +6

      I use it on my 10.5yr old arthritic labrador! I use the individual modules and use elastic bands to secure them to her paws and elbows!

  • @philw9120
    @philw9120 Рік тому +9

    Nice review Alex. I ordered it after watching your interview with Forrest and should be getting mine in the next couple days. Looking forward to trying it on an injured shoulder.

    • @pvault178
      @pvault178 Рік тому +3

      I am using it on my shoulder and have had good results.

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Рік тому +1

      Cool! I hope you find it beneficial. I'm not sure if you have seen this, but my latest video with the Kineon Co-Founder just went live ua-cam.com/video/0rj7jORnvY8/v-deo.html

    • @eliteboxfitness
      @eliteboxfitness 11 місяців тому

      Same. Got mine and using it twice a say on my shoulders..hopefully after a month I can feel some solid progress

    • @eliteboxfitness
      @eliteboxfitness 11 місяців тому +1

      Glad to hear as been using it on my shoulders for a week now and will maintain consistency. Hopefully get some great results

    • @foldemort8335
      @foldemort8335 10 місяців тому

      @@eliteboxfitness how have the results been?

  • @coffee_5647
    @coffee_5647 Рік тому +7

    Interesting about the 8:10 wavelength, since this is heavily researched for brain applications. I suppose one could use the strap to keep the unit against various areas of the head.

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  11 місяців тому +6

      Yeah but be careful doing that. I have an interview with Dr Randy Beck that will be up in a few days - and he warns about the risking of doing exactly this.

  • @secretcinemalagos5662
    @secretcinemalagos5662 9 місяців тому +3

    its a good device. they redone an intelligent job. its helping my shoulder a little bit. labral tear and tendinopathy. 15mins x2 a day. will reduce to once a day , thanks for the reviewanddiscount code

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  9 місяців тому

      =D

    • @Lagousk82
      @Lagousk82 8 місяців тому

      How do you use it on the hip, I have same issues Acetabulum labrum tear, plus tendinosis, partial tendon min max tear, considering to buy it, but wandering if I can apply it on my problematic areas ?

    • @eliteboxfitness
      @eliteboxfitness 8 місяців тому

      I don't use it on my hip but the wavelength they use. should be able to help you and you can position it where you need to.the thing about photobiomodulation is it works for almost everything just needs consistency for months @@Lagousk82

  • @mikkijpedrayes1332
    @mikkijpedrayes1332 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks Alex I love all of your reviews Have you ever done a review on the prism pod.. That's a lot cheaper than the Thor it's also a bed and it's easier for home use I would love to hear about that So far this review has been top-notch Thank you for all you do God bless and thank you 👍🌹🌟

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  10 місяців тому +1

      No I haven't sorry. I'll check it out though, thanks for the recommendation!

  • @A.Edlacir
    @A.Edlacir Рік тому +4

    Can you do a review on Block Blue Light products? They have red light therapy panels as well as glasses to use for daytime or nighttime.
    Thanks for creating this type of content 🙏

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Рік тому +1

      No worries. Working on getting a panel to review. Be sure to subscribe and stay tuned :)

    • @A.Edlacir
      @A.Edlacir Рік тому +1

      Awesome, done! Can’t wait to see future videos

  • @kell7195
    @kell7195 Рік тому +3

    Interesting, I'd say being a Lazer device it would have to pulse so it didn't cause damage, you don't have to do that with LEDs so no idea why panels now have pulsing? Nifty little device, I've gota Flex Beam recently as my first Red light device, seems to work pretty well but for those with knee or joint issues maybe the more targeted lazers would be better? I remember the leading doctor researching all this saying depth and targeting doest really matter as systemic effects spread out from even surface red light near IR exposure.

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Рік тому +2

      I'm not sure if all Lasers have to be pulsed. Yes there is evidence that the systemic benefits are quite powerful, but then we also see data showing that targeted treatment on a problematic area helps heal that area quite fast. If I had a sore knee I would definitely be treating the knee and not my back for instance :P

  • @HaLo_Zz
    @HaLo_Zz 6 місяців тому

    Got my kineon yesterday and used your code, yay! Still have to see if this helps. 😅 unsure why 1 would turn off automatically while other 2 remains on….

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  6 місяців тому

      Make sure they're all synced up together. They should turn off at the same time. Thanks for your support as well!

  • @JamesWTheGrappler
    @JamesWTheGrappler 10 місяців тому +1

    Hi Alex could you review the PainGo pad please, and do a comparison. Or ideally, do a video on the best possible product for elbow arthritis? Much appreciated.

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  10 місяців тому

      Oh yes I'll try get one to review. The Iron Forge by Chroma may be the best for elbow arthritis - ua-cam.com/video/kSRwS7tujM0/v-deo.html my review will be out soon.

  • @metalguru5226
    @metalguru5226 Рік тому +5

    Interesting. Are there really any proven benefits of pulsing? If so, it would be good to know more.

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Рік тому +2

      Hey, check this out - ua-cam.com/video/DVBOHQbq3OU/v-deo.html

  • @BWT599
    @BWT599 3 дні тому

    Man, I need this for my back (old herniated disc L4/L5) and for my right hand and forearm from coaching ice hockey. I found switching to barefoot shoes/boots fixed my plantar Faciitis and remnants of a broken ankle that felt like they were both never gonna resolve itself. I've spent a ton of money on acupuncture and ART for my hand and near my elbow. Getting old sucks!

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  День тому

      Aging is tough! Glad you were able to find some relief, though.

  • @nht306
    @nht306 7 місяців тому +3

    Be aware the batteries are not replaceable, kineon says they should hold 60% of charge for over 3 years, I won't add more stuff to the landfills, disappointing

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  6 місяців тому

      Hey. Oh interesting. I hadn't thought about this.

  • @yesreally7438
    @yesreally7438 11 місяців тому +4

    Hi Alex! I believe you'd mentioned you'd do another video on the Kineon Move+ after you'd used it for a while - just a nudge that there are very eager ears out here for that!! 😉🦻 Thanks for this channel & all your research!!!

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  10 місяців тому +1

      Hey, oh yes. Gosh I have a lot of content to film! I find it's great for travel and throwing int he gym bag. And if my knee feels a bit off I use it after a gym session as well. But I still prefer the panels for my day to day RLT hit.

  • @MrJgarbutt
    @MrJgarbutt 5 місяців тому

    What would you recommend for soft tissue injury (small muscle tear in the shoulder) Do you think this would be the best device for that or get a stronger mid sized panel. Look forward to hearing your thoughts thanks 👍🏻

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  5 місяців тому +1

      It depends on the size of the injury. If it is small, then yeah the Kineon will be fine. Check this out - ua-cam.com/video/PILeYcwMnfQ/v-deo.html

  • @pippybaby
    @pippybaby 9 місяців тому +4

    Hi. I have a full body panel for overall health. However I was looking for a more targeted device, specifically for lower back and knee pain and also an Achilles issue. I was all set to buy the Kineon move+pro after I saw your review. But I've now watched your review on the chroma Ironforge. Would this be a much better option than the kineon for specific target areas, taking into consideration it's clunkier and double the cost. I just wonder which you'd reccomended. Thanks

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  9 місяців тому +3

      Hey, yeah good question. Size is a big differing factor here. If you want something small, discrete, silent and of course battery powered - then the Kineon is going to be the best option. But the Chroma's power is insane so you will get better penetration with that. Have a think about how you would like to use these devices. I mean if you have the panel, maybe the Kineon device will allow more real world use cases as you may see a lot of overlap between the chroma and the panel that you have.

    • @pippybaby
      @pippybaby 9 місяців тому +6

      Thanks for the reply. One last question. If you take portability and cost out of the equation and base your choice only on effectiveness and performance which device would perform best for hitting specific target areas. If there's not much between them and it's a toss of a coin situation then ideally I'd go for the Kineon. However if the Chroma totally out performs the Kineon then I'd definitely go with that. Any further advice is much appreciated. Thanks

  • @jaclyndt
    @jaclyndt Рік тому +2

    Hey Alex,
    Any information the best device for uveitis (inflammation of the eye)?

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Рік тому +4

      Hey, sorry I'm not sure on this one, and I checked the research and couldn't find anything on that term. But you may want to have a look at this product and also reach out to the team who sell it - www.eye-power.co.uk/ - they have a lot of experience with RLT and the eye.

  • @MessinaDance
    @MessinaDance 4 місяці тому

    I've got bone spurs, a loose piece of bone, arthritis, diminished joint spacing in my big toe joints. Do you think this is worth a shot?
    Is there another device to look at?

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  3 місяці тому

      I would give it a shot yes. You could also look at this ua-cam.com/video/3PamzmX8c74/v-deo.html

  • @philw9120
    @philw9120 Рік тому +3

    Hey Alex, I got mine this afternoon, and it does have bluetooth. If I turn on any one of the three modules, the other two turn on simultaneously. I don't know if that is something new they implemented since you got yours, or if there is a setting to turn it on. I also tested with my RF meter and it is definitely putting out a bluetooth signal, which I have mixed feelings about.

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Рік тому

      Ahhh yes the team from Kineon have clarifed that yes it does have this feature. Maybe mine are out of sync - I need to figure out how to get it back into sync as it would make the operation so much nicer.

    • @G.Man-
      @G.Man- Рік тому

      I'm not keen on Bluetooth either... If this is the case it would be good if they stated this on their site

    • @eliteboxfitness
      @eliteboxfitness 11 місяців тому

      What's the disadvantage of the Bluetooth?

    • @philw9120
      @philw9120 11 місяців тому +1

      If you are trying to avoid EMF ideally you don't want bluetooth. However, one thing I discovered with the Kineon Move is that the bluetooth turns off when you put them in the charging case, I wish they would allow you to use the units when they are in the case@@eliteboxfitness

  • @ermeriodsassperini
    @ermeriodsassperini 9 місяців тому

    Hi Alex. I have the opportunity to buy the used flexbeam at a really good price. I'll be using mostly for my lower back, but also my shoulder and knee. Does it really work, and is it worth $375 Canadian?
    Will the flexbeam penetrate the skin in order to treat muscle, joints and ligaments? Should I save my money and buy the kineon?

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  8 місяців тому

      Hey that does sound like a good price and the Flexbeam is super popular. I just haven't tested it so I don't know how well it performs.

  • @cyacko
    @cyacko 3 місяці тому

    Any thoughts how this would help lateral epicondylitis (tennis elbow) recovery? Really need something to assist in progressing forward. Hoping this is the ticket to success/controllable pain. Thanks.

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Місяць тому

      I think it would help. Check out my Facebook page, where you can ask the members there what they think.ua-cam.com/video/kGlZpG6MD3U/v-deo.htmlsi=pf7a978H4SZ7ZrF2

  • @carloscueva7492
    @carloscueva7492 Рік тому +1

    Lasers??… what’s the benefit of lasers? And for knee problems would the biomax Leo be able to do the same job ?

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Рік тому +4

      Oh lasers are just cool right :P lasers deliver a more precise wavelength compared to LEDs. So you're getting more energy at a particular wavelength.
      One of the main reasons why the Kineon Move+ is so popular is because of the portability/convenience factor. You're getting that light delivered right into the joint from 3 sides, the light is right on the skin (no loss of reflection etc) AND you can move around with it. I'll do a video on this

    • @Arrasel
      @Arrasel 2 місяці тому

      Red light therapy started with lasers. It was called low-level laser therapy.
      Lasers are the best.
      LEDs are cheaper option.
      I doubt we can afford a body panel made with lasers. One would have to sell their house.

  • @davemTX2023
    @davemTX2023 2 місяці тому

    I saw a similar device advertised somewhere-out of Norway, I believe-but the actual components were larger, so you could target the lower back, herniated discs, shoulder, etc. Are you familiar with the device I am talking about? It also has lasers.

  • @DamirKranjcec
    @DamirKranjcec 7 місяців тому +1

    I live in Croatia.
    Will I have to pay additional custom fees?

  • @rosiecrespo8856
    @rosiecrespo8856 10 місяців тому +1

    Can you use this on a titanium knee replacement?

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  10 місяців тому

      Hey, I would check with your doctor and also with Kineon. I think it will be fine though.

  • @supermanreturns23
    @supermanreturns23 3 місяці тому

    Where is the interview with founder? Anyone use this for regenerating nerve tissue on sever carpal tunnel damage?

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  2 місяці тому

      Here it is:ua-cam.com/video/Der5Fg3xJyU/v-deo.htmlsi=LmZHHhlrkzRmxRrZ

  • @MotoWilliams
    @MotoWilliams 2 місяці тому

    Are there any peer reviewed studies on this therapy specifically to joint health?

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Місяць тому +1

      Have you searched on Pubmed? If you do, generally, photobiomodulation or LLLT, as opposed to RLT, should be used in your search.pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=photobiomodulation+force+joint+health&page=1

  • @danger_pig
    @danger_pig Рік тому +3

    How does this compare with Flexbeam?

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  11 місяців тому +1

      Hey good question. I'm yet to try the Flexbeam sorry. Maybe ask in our FB group - as I'm sure some people in there have the Flexbeam - facebook.com/groups/lighttherapyinsiders/

  • @hl4468
    @hl4468 Місяць тому

    I bought a Kineon Move+. After using for less than 2 weeks, one of the three modules seems to have died. Had the same problem with the FlexBeam after 6 weeks. Has anyone found a quality red light therapy device that is durable enough to function a year without having problems?

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Місяць тому

      Have you contacted Kineon? This is not typical of their product. If you are interested, join my Facebook group. Many members can offer suggestions and speak about their experiences.facebook.com/groups/500073950150828/

  • @andieeleven6592
    @andieeleven6592 5 місяців тому +2

    Are you aware that the lifespan of the Keneon move+ pro is only three years? Seems pretty expensive for only three years of use, you should add that in the information in your review.

    • @Evideclin
      @Evideclin 4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for the info. Maybe it heals you in 3 years, so you just dump it.

    • @bart1476
      @bart1476 14 днів тому

      Where did you get your information?????

  • @marysapia5213
    @marysapia5213 8 місяців тому

    Will a panel help with joint pain?

  • @techfan1132
    @techfan1132 8 місяців тому

    How does it hold up for ACL?

  • @mattmarioni2481
    @mattmarioni2481 11 місяців тому +1

    Can you use it one your lower back?

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  10 місяців тому

      You could yes, but you would need their torso belt strap to apply it to the back.

  • @amgnico
    @amgnico 8 місяців тому +2

    Any studies on osteoarthritis?

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  8 місяців тому

      Here we go - www.lighttherapyinsiders.com/red-light-therapy-arthritis/

  • @coltonmartin6473
    @coltonmartin6473 Рік тому +2

    Does kineon have FDA approval.

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Рік тому +1

      I can't see anything on their site about the FDA - but you may want to check with them.

    • @mikahundin
      @mikahundin Рік тому +7

      The Kineon website has a "FDA cleared" emblem on the product page. So that's good! How are cleared and approved different? FDA Approved is a higher standard, because the safety and effectiveness of the specific product has been tested. FDA Cleared is a lower standard, and in many cases the product is cleared because it is similar to an existing product, rather than that it has passed rigorous independent safety trials. That's not a negative - it just means it has not been through the lengthy process of approval, which is likely expensive and time intensive.

  • @_ShortsThatKeepMeSane_
    @_ShortsThatKeepMeSane_ Місяць тому

    I’d love to hear reviews by people with neck pain specifically.

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Місяць тому

      If you don't get a response, consider joining my Facebook page. Many members are willing to share their personal experiences with products:facebook.com/groups/500073950150828/

  • @bilguana11
    @bilguana11 2 місяці тому

    The strap came out of the male clip when used. Forrest didn't respond to my complaint.

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  2 місяці тому

      have you reached out to their customer support team?

  • @bilguana11
    @bilguana11 2 місяці тому +1

    It will not fit around my shoulder.

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  2 місяці тому

      Have you contacted the company to see if they have suggestions?

  • @mr_jc_1973
    @mr_jc_1973 Місяць тому

    Used the MOVE+ Pro on my Tennis Elbow for 3 months. Multiple times a day, every day and seen zero improvement from using it. Overpriced placebo device.

    • @AlexFergusdotcom
      @AlexFergusdotcom  Місяць тому

      Geez, I'm sorry to hear this. So many have had such positive results with inflammation and pain. Has it helped with the pain at all?

    • @bart1476
      @bart1476 14 днів тому

      I used to be a professional tennis player, then taught for years after touring. Tennis elbow will not go away if you let the ball get too close and you and hit late. Why do professional players never get tennis elbow?? Because they hit early. Arm is straight or almost straight on contact well in front of the body.