ag.onewheel G I have the older model that has the power button on the side, it is worse because you can accidentally turn the unit on or off by picking it up.
@@kaczukarma131 Not every keyboard is back lit; there is setting to switch off back lit after few seconds - less disturbing; I have no FN key on desktop but power-button is well known; still it is the fastest solution for hibernation/sleep.
@@kaczukarma131 Also Smartphones use power button similarly (Holding few seconds to shutdown/restart; pushing button to switch off the screen); Printers - the same way; and many other devices - why I should use FN+something when each laptop manufacturer has own shortcuts?
I have it and really i tried very hard to find any flow or anything at all on the bad side but nope, it is the perfect machine for everything i even game on it, buy it you will not regret it
Disagree with you on the power button placement. Whenever power buttons are on the side or front, i find that it's easy to accidentally press it when moving the laptop around. Putting it on the corner means that this will happen much less.
try disconnecting AGA on alienware when it is plugged in, its literally bigger with more space but the placement and the fact that you need to press the sides to remove the cable. You have to unplug it just to be able to reach to remove the AGA cable.
When u realise newer versions listened to linus and built it ..idk Better? Then u realise how right he actually was. Dont hate anyone. Just he has tried all laptops before speaking .unlike us who can take some itsy bitsy in devices but still gonna buy.
I'm not an expert but I think the power button placement, wobbly screen and gigantic bezel would be attributed to it being a convertible laptop. Power button placement = prevents accidentally pressing it on the edge while in tablet mode Wobbly screen = less rigidity due to hinge being able to go 360 Gigantic bezel = so you have somewhere to hold if you fancy your self drawing the next Mona Lisa while . I guess its better to just focus on what you really are (a laptop) instead of trying to be something you are not (also a tablet)
I otherwise agree but I think 360's usually require more rigidity to work and stay in place with pen and touch in more positions while otherwise you might just want to have a screen that is easy to open with one hand. And my general understanding is that for this reason the 360's are usually much more rigid and you can't open most of them with one hand.
Surface book solved these in 2015 Power button: on the very top, where no one holds it Wobbly screen: screen flips Gigantic bezel: touch rejection when pen is in use
@@malavpatel77 just sayin it's not a good excuse since all these issues have been tackled for ages. I don't think HP wanted to put the effort it for a couple more iterations and just said hell, this is good enough. Ship!
And also I really love my lenovo x380 yoga 2in1 and think it is somewhat close the perfect instance of an laptop for me to exist. In case of previous points I would say that Power button placement = Newer had any problems. Wobbly screen = No. it has the most rigid screen ever. Much more rigid than any non 2in1 I have seen. And I really like this. Gigantic bezel = Newer thought it was big. It fits a full hd screen perfectly. And I think it is the best resolution currently.
Well i bought this laptop the 13in variant two weeks ago and i like it so far. Almost all the complaints linus made are exaggerated. The power button placement is convenient for no accidental presses during tablet or tent mode. The pen can stored in the sleeve that came with laptop. The trackpad is fine , I've actually installed the precision driver and found it to be skipping lots of presses, so i went to synaptics again (can you believe it?). The size of the keyboard is good even with the speakers on top. The bezels are there so you can hold it in tablet mode without accidental touches. The 16:9 ratio is standard, only surface and matebooks have 3:2. My only complains are the trackpad small rattle at the corners, and the sharp edges. Edit 1: alot of people have been asking me , so I'll put my opinion after 1 years of usage. I didn't experience overheating (idk about thermal throttle), but the case does get hot on your lab after a while. The screen refresh rate never bothered me, but the brightness is bad for the price. The laptop is good for light usage only. It's more form over function. Don't expect it to run crysis The battery life held up quite good. The laptop can only be charged by official HP charger, any other charger will not work. All in all , I give it an 8/10 as a light office laptop. It's main selling point is the 360 hinge which I didn't use much. Your better off with the xps if you want a no nonsense laptop. Touch screen is just not applicable for me in win10 devices
Exactly, the only other laptops i can find close to comparison spec for spec are the Dell XPS 15 and Surface Laptop and those are 20% more expensive, well out of my budget! I like the envy x360 version best though, better value.
Missed the entire purpose of the gem cut design. After complaints from convertible users that the power button is always getting hit, turning the machine on in the bag (leaving you with a dead laptop) or off while using it in tablet mode, HP created a brilliant fix--put it on a corner cut at a 45 degree angle and it's not able to be easily hit in any mode. It's harder to hit BY DESIGN.
..... are we creating problems that don't exist? would you rather close your laptops before putting them in a bag or have a power button in an uncomfortable position? are you seriously gonna choose the latter?
Sharra Shimada it’s not the worst, The Spectre x2 from 5 years ago was the worst. - usb ports constantly breaking - inside batteries failing after 18 months - spareparts the repair the crap taking 8/12 weeks to be delivered - screen heavier then base causing the laptop to wheelie all the time
the Spectre line of HP laptops has existed for long before the Spectre and Meltdown flaws where found. I'm typing on one right now that existed before those vulnerabilities where found and it was a late year refresh of model and wasn't the first year of that model either.
I have been a follower or LTT for 5 years now and I have enjoyed many of there videos, often agreeing with some of there opinions and buying products based on how well they have been reviewed on this channel. For once though I disagree. I watched this review after having expressed interest in the laptop and was amazed as to how negative this review was in comparison to others. In the end I have bought this laptop (13 inch model) and I am thoroughly impressed at everything about this laptop. The pixel response times aren't noticeable even when I tried a little gaming. The power button is easily accessible and you can charge it in any one of the USB C ports The included leather sleeve (amazing btw) has a slot for the pen. Trackpad is amazing once you install windows precision drivers that is I highly recommend this laptop for anyone who is looking for a powerful 2 in 1 - 13inch model especially!
I have the 2018 version, I love it. Most of the stuff here is super critical, I agree. The bezels are no issue (no shitty we can angle, windows hello, ultra thin on the sides, easy to hold in tablet mode), I have never noticed the trackpad issue (palm rejection is amazing), and holy crap the battery life.
I got the same laptop, but in 15” with the 120hz display. I to was thoroughly impressed. Power button is no problem and I ageee with what you say. LTT can be a bit too negative...
Same here, awesome laptop, even if you don't like it a completely negative review doesn't make any sense as it's one of the best on the market right now!
The drivers help but as someone else said, it should come like this out of the box. The trackpad is so bad that you instantly get buyers remorse once you start using it. I have the 2019 envy x360 10th gen i7 and its going back, I was making due and getting use to it but the IPS glow and the horror stories of broken hinges was enough for me to send it back. Probably going with XPS 15 instead....
@@MaliciousSRT I have the 2018 Envy x360 and it's not good trust me. I had someone bring it to me from another country so I couldn't return it. I don't have IPS glow or I haven't noticed it but the hinge is annoying and the body picks up scratches easily despite a lot of good care from my part. The display is good but brightness could be better and some models don't have uniform backlighting. Definitely go with the XPS 15.
For once I disagree with Linus. I have the 13" version and I love it. No problems at all. You can easily install MS Precision drivers to the trackpad and problem solved!
I actually get pissed off at this review. Those dead zones in the trackpad do not exist. Watching this review almost made me change my decision on saving up for this laptop and I thought I would have to look at another option. It shook my confidence in this laptop and broke my heart because I could not find a 15 inch 2 in 1 laptop with the dedicated graphics and a full sized keyboard. Everything else I looked at I was sacrificing at least one item on my spec list if I looked anywhere else. I actually had to go to bestbuy and test out the trackpad myself. While I can't say anything about them using Synaptic drivers in the trackpad, those dead zones he saw were not there. I got my HP Specter a week and a half ago and it is probably the best piece of technology I've had.
@@lunabright94 Literally went to a Best Buy after this to give it a shot (and to test the trackpad issues Linus mentioned) No issues (at least with the display demo-units)
The thick top and bottom bezels are not outdated. They're purposely there to avoid accidental touching in tablet mode. The other laptops you've compared to are not 2-in-1, hence not needing to compromise big bezels for tablet mode.
😆 Linus kinda reminds you of that always complaining granny oh it's too hot, it's too cold, it's too long, it's too short, it's too bright, it's too dark.
Dude there's so much competition in the ultrabook world. Maybe these laptops are good on their own, but compared to the competition, they suck. Linus's job is to compare it to the competition. If there is something cheaper but better he will recommend that instead. He will nitpick instead of being the average amazon review saying "yeah this thing is pretty good."
@@diegochavez7203 So which 2 in 1 convertible 13 inch has more power, is lighter, competed in battery life, has a similiar amount of IO and cheaper (or even equally priced) as the 13 inch version of this? It isn't Dell xps 2 in 1 13, it isn't the Lenovo 930, it isn't the surface book or the pro. I can't find it. The nearest thing might be the Samsung but no....just no. The LG Gram 2 in 1...yea. I think maybe, but you'll pay about $250 to $300 more for that right now so probably no.
I bought the 15t in Poseidon Blue even after watching cuz every negative mentioned are features I don't use (games & touch pad). The on/off button is resolved by using your LEFT hand (not reaching diagonally across keyboard with your right). HP has a Labor Day sale and I saved $400!
Yeah I mean he said "something I would recommend buying though, is our sponsor" so yeah I m buying 100% of their stocks at the moment because Linus recommend it.
I have the 15inch and honestly have never enjoyed a laptop this much. I came away a bit puzzled because after the review I checked the issues you were mentioning and in my 3 months with this machine I've never noticed the screen retention or trackpad issues but they are indeed present in direct comparison. The 15inch XPS I had before was plagued with much more stuff that annoyed me (which for some reason gets very positive reviews everywhere). Nevertheless nice that you came around to reviewing this
I have the 2018 "15 version and I love it, but knew the screen wobble wasn't the best, and definitely know the trackpad sucks lol... The bezels only bother me when I try to use it in tablet mode to read music because it's not the same width as a sheet of paper when it ABSOLUTELY could've been from these freaking bezels.
They can fail even worse... I ordered 53 HP Elitebook 850 G5 laptops. They delivered 20 with the correct Belgian keyboard and 33 with an Italian keyboard and powerplug.
Wait, Belgium and Italy do not follow the euro-plug standard? Since you probably ordered those for your IT department, I suppose you could always contact HP and request proper replacements.
Rydoge 21 - we have a company with over 450 employees. And for those 53, the carepack on their old devices ended + the old devices run Win7 - and as you know. Next year no more Win7 support. So devices are End-of-Life.
Been using this 13 inch laptop for some time now. 1) Power button - reach fine, use fine. No problem at all 2) Trackpad - yes Synaptics drivers are not good but i changed them to Windows precision and since then they been working like a charm, no problem at all. Even with synaptics drivers installed I had no problem described here with “deadzones” one the trackpad. As I said though, changed to windows precision and trackpad no problem at all. 3) as for pen, you can attach it to the sleeve case that comes with the laptop, there is a special place for that.
I tend to like most of your reviews Linus, but some times, such as this time, it feels like you’re the CinemaSins of reviewers. Power button placement is not an issue on this device. Side mounted power buttons get hit accidentally ALL THE TIME. The laptop sleeve INCLUDED with the device has a stylus holder. Heck, the stylus itself has a pocket clip if you’re desperate. Even little things, like your complaint about the FP sensor not being in the power button. The last gen had that. Consumers asked for it back on the keyboard deck. Yes some of your complains were definite warranted, but other than the 15in screen problems and trackpad issues, most of your complaints seem like non issues. In fact you’re the only reviewer of this device that had problems with these things.
I have the 13'' and I'll add my bit to Linus' experience. He is pretty much spot on for most things, but I did find that he was pretty harsh on certain details that really do not matter. For example, the power button is in the corner for ease of access, and it is really easy to reach at all times, I have never struggled to press it. Also, the fingerprint sensor is on the palm rest area because users complained about it being on the side in earlier generations. That being said, the location is decent in my opinion, but the real problem is its accuracy. I usually have to press and lift my finger 2-3 times every time I want to unlock, and each reading itself takes probably half a second to a full second, making it noticeably slow and/or inaccurate. The synaptics trackpad is bad with the synaptics driver, but after spending a couple of hours, I found a way to install precision drivers and it instantly becomes a GREAT trackpad. Honestly, I was hesitating between the HP and a surface pro, but the lack of USB-C or thunderbolt 3 made me go the HP way. The build quality is not as good, but at least you get better specs and a cheaper price.
If only HP can have ''slightly'' better build quality, currently, buying HP, EVEN if I crack their laptop open manually and look at the thermal myself, some machine just simply dead on arrival, or dead in a week/month, my last gaming laptop is DOA, then Dead in 2 month, at least HP are replacing them, I guess?
@@Verpal Yes they do have a problem with quality control too, especially for the Spectre x360 many people complained about the hinge not being straight, some laptops arriving with dents already... but I haven't heard yet about a laptop being dead on arrival.
I have last year's Spectre x360 15"... yes the power button on the side wasn't the best choice, and I like where it is now. The fingerprint sensor as well, I also believe Linus is completely wrong when he talked about the placement, the sensor on this thing is terrible on placement, but when I actually do find it, it works for me about 90% of the time. I also got the precision drivers going on this puppy, and it's a beautiful trackpad after that correction. Overall... beautiful and very functional laptop. I use it at work as an IT guy for a school district, gets thrown around a little more than i'd hope, and it still chugs along just fine.
xOr Of = belonging to something. For example: The King OF the North Off = opposite of on. But there are colloquialisms that will not fall in to that category. Like, "go off on you", which means to get mad at somebody, possibly raising the voice. I'm starting to doubt if that's a phrase now, but hopefully this helps, regardless.
Again its a beautiful design, I’m just talking about the bezel. Specially when your devices are ultra slim it doesn’t match the aesthetics. Try searching for Lenovo S940, now that’s where I see future aesthetic design.
@@MrFijiBoySako Fair enough, but I wouldn't recommend getting a 2-in-1 in that case. The thick top and bottom bezels are massively helpful when using the device in tablet mode, giving you an area that you can firmly grip without worrying about touching the screen itself. If you had slim bezels all around you'd either have to cradle it around the back, or try to get a pinch grip on the tiny bezels, which isn't comfortable or safe, and puts a point load on the chassis, vs. spreading the load out a bit. As someone who has loved using W8 and W10 2-in-1 computers for a good 5 years now, despite how it may look aesthetically, not having those bezels would be a big downside for me, and the unit would have to truly amazing in other ways to make up for it.
I mean... thats the point. He was showing how using synaptics drivers didnt work well in either case. In stead of critizing Linus, you should be critizing HP.
@Bukan Vanessa Angel well no. Synaptics still exist because companies like hp still use it. So I wouldnt blame synaptics for existing when other companies fuel its existence.
@@DrumsyPleaseShave well if you want to get technical: should we blame synaptics or others who use it? Either one is valid. But which one is true? This is answered by (our capitalism) economic principles: essentially, if there is purchases, then there is demand. So synaptics is at no fault for continuing to make it. In your example: should we blame hate school shootings, or the people who allow guns to be legal and fuel private gun existence? Either one is valid, but which one is true? This is answered by legal framework and inspiration of the 2nd Amendment: hate school shootings, not the those who allow guns to be legal. What does it mean to hate school shootings? This is very vague because the design of your own argument is vague. lol
I mean...that's the point though. It sucks when it's on and it sucks when it's off. Which means it just sucks. The fact that Apple, for all their faults, has had industry leading trackpads for literally a decade at this point and nobody else seems to consistently come even close is just embarrassing. How has nobody else been able to get it right in all that time? And worse, fail so clearly as in this case? There is demonstrably more dead space than usable space in the default config shown here; that's straight up bad. They clearly assume all movements are starting in the middle and moving outwards, hiding the frankly _massive_ dead zone.
@@andrew23456able At least in my case there is no palm rejection at the borders when typing, i cannot adjust cursor speed within precision settings and tapping with three or four fingers doesn't work anymore. I set three finger tap to middle mouse button but for some reason it only registers when doing a four finger click. I have no idea how to get it to work properly again like it did for all of 2018.
I mean, it’s hard to be objective about laptop reviews. Maybe that’s my PC gamer talking again, because they definitely make sense, but rare is the laptop which actually provides good value.
Yeah, i know that. My first laptop was a msi "gaming" laptop. I literally felt like I burnt 1000€. I was 12 years old. I safed up over 2 years for that Laptop. I was young and naive.
I wouldn't trust the Spectre line up after having owned the 2015 model and going through hell trying to get HP to replace a faulty motherboard(they never did and wanted to charge my $600 to replace it). It was a known issue that affected multiple products but HP wouldn't own up to their mistake.
I have a 2018 Spectre x360 which I've had for a year and a half. It started smoking through the charging port with regular charging. It is out of the 1 year warranty so if you call their support line for help they will tell you you're out of luck unless you pay hundreds of dollars for them to fix it. But I found out that if you post on the forums and get a mod to escalate your issue to a health and safety representative, they'll fix it for free one time. It's still a pretty bad experience and I've seen a lot of people who posted about their Spectre motherboards also smoking or burning up in my time trying to get help. I'll be going with a different brand next time I need a new laptop.
I bought the 15" last year, and have never had a better laptop (I've had many, from all the major vendors, both for work and privately). I never noticed the touch pad issue he mentions, probably because I just use it differently. The power button is a non-issue, I was actually super happy to see the placement. Then again, I am left handed. Also, mine came with the privacy screen feature, and judging from what I can see in this video, Fn+F1 on their keyboard has that same option available. Not sure how they would have missed that. My only issue with this laptop was that the function keys defaulted to the fancy functions instead of regular F keys, this was easily changed in the BIOS setup. A note on my possible bias: I bought this, reluctantly at first, a few months after HP (actually HPE, it was after the split) laid me off because my work could be done cheaper in India.
@@michaeldamolsen Do you have any tips for improving gaming performance? I'm running Doom eternal and was just wondering if there was anything else I could do to give it a bit of gaming boost
Man UA-cam really hates your videos. You are the only channel I see that regularly has processing issues, and I know it isn't on your side. I wish there was something we could do about it. At some point it has to affect viewercount, etc.
@@GradyHouger Right. After a few hours. The first few hours are when a fair chunk of their views come in, and they set pace for the rest of the day. Since most of their videos are pipelined, they're even uploaded (unlisted) early so YT can have it processed by the time it goes live. I watch plenty of videos on other channels that are ready to go at launch, but LTT videos frequently aren't fully processed after a few hours.
Here's the deal: You're 100% spot on. These "spectre" line laptops are consumer grade crap. I build/deploy/support around 2800 endpoints in an enterprise environment where we recently (within the last year) started buying the Elitebook 1030 x360's along with the zbook Studio x360 g5. They're absolutely fantastic, solid, reliable computers. Do they have occasional issues? Yep, but they're otherwise fantastic. Worst computers I've ever deployed? Surface pros and surface books. 100% hot garbage.
I've never had any issues that you've talked about on my HP Spectre x360 that I have that came out in 2016. I got it on Black Friday & i love that it's an all aluminum build. It's a solid laptop besides the degraded battery life. It's touchscreen but doesn't have pen support which I wish it did. I think I would get another Spectre next year depending on what HP does for the next generation model
I actually have a Spectre x360 13" (2017 I believe) and except from the screen wobble everything is fine and also it didn't come with the synaptics drivers.
@@jel1951 I have the 2015 and the dead zone is real, but I've never noticed it to be a problem unless you're comparing to something with a great trackpad like a Mac.
It did come with Synaptics Drivers. No HP laptop has ever used Windows Precision, especially not the Spectre and Envy. They will be bringing MS precision with the new Envy laptops with wood grain trackpads.
Synaptics trackpads are a dealbreaker for any laptop, at least for me. I literally switched to Linux just to be able to use my trackpad without half a second of input lag and ridiculous acceleration.
@CoDGplays You cannot use a mouse everywhere. In my university you get just enough space to put your laptop onto the table and type comfortably with about 7cm of space on either side, and that is with a 13" laptop.
@@invendelirium That idea ends as soon as you need to right click drag anything. For my laptop, the pen also has insane input lag so it is useless for anything other than writing.
which envy? if you can respond quickly i'd appreciate it as im about to get the HP envy 2 in 1's latest model. is that the one you had issues with the hinges on? I've had issues with HP hinges in the past so quite worried about that
Hahahaha! Inconvenient power button and missing pen holder!! Man, just avoiding to present the most important things, or just mention it really quickly, you basically convinced me to buy that laptop by your video :) Thanks!
I always watch in 720p, if they wouldn't upload it in 4K the quality of the 720p would be worse Edit: just saw it's only 1080p, but recording in 8K results in better quality for all resolutions, I think they even did a separate video for this topic
I just bought my x360 2019 a month ago and only been using it recently for watching Netflix but the screen gets black sometimes while the audio is still playing. Have you guys had any problem like that ?
@@rondc7175 Ah, yes. If you lock it for example, the audio keeps playing too. I think what is happening for you is the screen saver function kicks in and blanks the screen. You can disable that in the power management settings, set it to "never" instead of 15 minutes (I think that is the default, can't check since I changed my setting already). Actually, I don't think this is unique to HP laptops, I've seen it on many brands.
@@michaeldamolsen thanks for your response. I actually already did that and even change the refresh rate to 40hz. Tho it did somehow improve, it still turns black after a movie. It's still within warranty so I'm also gonna go have it checked in an HP service center after this quarantine. Stay safe !
Honestly I have one (13 inch) and it's a very good laptop, trackpad wasn't that bad but after switching to windows precision drivers (literally 2 minutes) works flawlessly. Battery life is awesome, performance is amazing, keyboard is perfect, there's so many things going on for this laptop. Besides this is the only negative review on the web, and for a good reason: it's a very good product! Don't understand the negative tone on this review even for things like the placement of the power button that's been praised literally by everyone (me included, it's awesome!). Perfect? Maybe not, but this video surely is not objective or fair!
I had the original release of the x360 13", it had: -Interference between the USB 3.0 and bluetooth cards internally, causing USB 3.0 misbehaving with external HDDs and mice (unusable), and horribly jittery bluetooth connections with audio. -Ghost touches on the display like crazy! Driver update HP released caused the screen to be much less responsive to "fix" the problem. Disabled the touchscreen permanently. -Fan that screamed under any medium/high load. -Unreliable audio jack recognition of headphones/mics plugged in. -Hinges that racked and was obvious that the lid didn't line up with the body when closed. -Crappy audio (expected but heavily oversold). So yeah, that was my first and last high-end HP laptop, I'm off to Lenovo and not regretting a thing. Running a Lenovo Yoga 730 15"
Purchased one of these for University recently - has served me extremely well. Most of the issues stated here were not noticable and I love mine. The Sureview display is actually very good too - great when someone nosy is looking at your work when using it on a train / bus on your lap.
Some laptop manufacturer should really make a "Linus proof laptop" by watching most of the laptop reviews, making a checklist out of them on what is and isn't a good approach. Then make that laptop. Just to see what Linus thinks of it.
I recently bought the hp Spectre x360 and with extended use I became aware of the bottom of the laptop getting hot. To combat that problem I bought a cheap laptop cooling pad, and it works like a charm to keep the laptop cool
HP do not keeps his words any more: No more "money back guaranty" they want only your money ,if you order per telephone be ready that salesman make mistake and you will get not what you wanted because, HP says April 11, 2019: "Unfortunately, we have to inform you that you are excluded from the 14-day right of return because it is a personalized ZBook. Therefore, a return of the goods is excluded"
I have the Envy 13" X360 Ryzen 5 2018 and i JUST noticed the touchpad thing, thanks to your video Linus....thanks, i guess... I dont have the power button location problem though...
I have the same power botton on my ENVY. Button should be drawned because it is really hard to use the convertible mode: too often I suddenly press this button and the device just turns off((
@@Mahnoornadeemm the HP spectre is a light and fast working laptop, it has a lot of memory and it has a long battery life. It’s touch screen works great! It’s not to small or big and it’s great to work with, I recommend to use this for school.
spectre x360 15' owner here. you can update the touch drivers to windows precision for free and go about your way. and there is a pen holder in the included leather case.
I think Linus is getting this thing wrong. I mean yes, the bezels are a bit big (the top one is big because of network hardware being hidden up there to ensure good connectivity) and yes the screen has a little bit of a slow reaction time, but srsly, I want to use that thing and not complain that a pixel turns off just not fast enough. And yes, synaptics is not great but you can switch to precision if you just can't stand it at all. But the rest is ridiculous. The power button is just fine, I have never ever heard someone complain about a power button... I mean... Just no... Complaining about the pen holder. For real. First you say you don't want a holder at all, now you say you want one. Get your s**t together and decide. Also, every single other 2in1 does not have a holder and there it is just fine. The same thing with the hinge. Every other 2in1 has the same one and it is just fine...
Love the look of the spectre's but I've learned from the past, HP consumer laptops have always left me disappointed. I've had two with the power supplies going out a few months after owning the laptop. If you want HP go with their zbook line
Just bought this laptop and then watched the review. I can confirm that the track pad no longer has that 2.5cm dead zone. It is now more like a cm and becomes active once the mouse is moving. Love the power button placement imo.
William Walker It has 2400 mhz, it is not bad, from benchmarks that I have seen it gets around 120 fps on fortnite and apex legends and the screen is 120 hz
Looking fwd to seeing your review of the 2019 Ice Lake version as HP seems to have addressed all of your concerns: Bezels, windows precision trackpad and new displays
I have the Envy x360 with Synaptics touchpad. I see the same behavior and never considered it a problem. There is a buffer zone on the edge of the touchpad that won't activate the cursor. I tried exactly what Linus did.... slow or fast touching on the edge of the touchpad when the cursor is not visible doesn't wake the cursor. But after the cursor is awake and on screen, the same "dead zone" is not dead. I can move the cursor even along the extreme left edge of the pad. I think it is working as designed. The heels of my palms under my thumbs normally brush the edges of the touchpad as I touch type. So it's good that they don't trigger mouse action or clicks with this well-planned zone. And of course there are settings that I set a long time ago to change the size of the zone, sensitivity, cursor speed, etc. It's all good.
I went ahead and bought one. The trackpad is easily its weakest point. The 4K screen is okay but nothing spectacular. It also gets so hot that it's melted the glue holding the feet to the base. Just got a couple of replacements from HP. Without the feet, there's zero airflow through the fans as the air intake is at the bottom, so it just causes it to get hotter. Performance-wise, I can't complain.
Have you tried the HP Envy x360 13? It's a price tier lower than the spectre, although the Build quality is really nice, there is no Deck Flex, it has the same Keyboard but not these weird trackpad and monitor issues. Oh, and it features Ryzen Mobile ^^
I have used the most expensive spectre, the 15 inch DF-0500ND, and it overheated after three weeks and I had to send it back. Where nothing got fixed... This was apparently due to some problem with the 1050 Ti Max-Q inside. bottom line, do not by unless you want to be unable to use your laptop for three weeks, three/four weeks after purchase (and you have $2799 dollars laying around).
![HP Spectre x360 15.6" UPDATE [4 months later] - Best Student Laptop 2019?](/img/n.gif)
"Can't easily reach the power button"
*reaches out and presses the power button no problem*
ag.onewheel G I have the older model that has the power button on the side, it is worse because you can accidentally turn the unit on or off by picking it up.
@OldPossum Me! Power button is my Sleep+hibernate button because it is much faster than (Fn + any Fx key) and I will never miss-click in dark room.
@@h4t3ck the key board is back lit
@@kaczukarma131 Not every keyboard is back lit; there is setting to switch off back lit after few seconds - less disturbing; I have no FN key on desktop but power-button is well known; still it is the fastest solution for hibernation/sleep.
@@kaczukarma131 Also Smartphones use power button similarly (Holding few seconds to shutdown/restart; pushing button to switch off the screen); Printers - the same way; and many other devices - why I should use FN+something when each laptop manufacturer has own shortcuts?
This is the only bad review i could find for this laptop. I think i'll go ahead and purchase this.
i purchased... was not disappointed...
Josh Small Been olanning to buy laptop and can't decide.
How's your new hp going so far?
I have it and really i tried very hard to find any flow or anything at all on the bad side but nope, it is the perfect machine for everything i even game on it, buy it you will not regret it
Josh Small Thank you so much for this. ❤️
I love mine!
Disagree with you on the power button placement. Whenever power buttons are on the side or front, i find that it's easy to accidentally press it when moving the laptop around. Putting it on the corner means that this will happen much less.
HOW OFTEN DO YOU DROP YOUR LAPTOP WTF
@@215nerf It's Linus.... How often do you think...
@@heervristi6667 true but he isn't linus nobody is like linus
try disconnecting AGA on alienware when it is plugged in, its literally bigger with more space but the placement and the fact that you need to press the sides to remove the cable. You have to unplug it just to be able to reach to remove the AGA cable.
@@purplefire2834 yea like it's gonna land precisely on that particular corner 🙄
Linus: "Has HP failed?"
*bends it to hell, throws it against the wall, sets it on fire*
Linus : "They failed."
under rated comment
real
When u realise newer versions listened to linus and built it ..idk Better? Then u realise how right he actually was. Dont hate anyone. Just he has tried all laptops before speaking .unlike us who can take some itsy bitsy in devices but still gonna buy.
I'm not an expert but I think the power button placement, wobbly screen and gigantic bezel would be attributed to it being a convertible laptop.
Power button placement = prevents accidentally pressing it on the edge while in tablet mode
Wobbly screen = less rigidity due to hinge being able to go 360
Gigantic bezel = so you have somewhere to hold if you fancy your self drawing the next Mona Lisa while
.
I guess its better to just focus on what you really are (a laptop) instead of trying to be something you are not (also a tablet)
I otherwise agree but I think 360's usually require more rigidity to work and stay in place with pen and touch in more positions while otherwise you might just want to have a screen that is easy to open with one hand. And my general understanding is that for this reason the 360's are usually much more rigid and you can't open most of them with one hand.
Surface book solved these in 2015
Power button: on the very top, where no one holds it
Wobbly screen: screen flips
Gigantic bezel: touch rejection when pen is in use
@@anna_arw6006 also costs a fortune if you live in Canada
@@malavpatel77 just sayin it's not a good excuse since all these issues have been tackled for ages. I don't think HP wanted to put the effort it for a couple more iterations and just said hell, this is good enough. Ship!
And also I really love my lenovo x380 yoga 2in1 and think it is somewhat close the perfect instance of an laptop for me to exist. In case of previous points I would say that
Power button placement = Newer had any problems.
Wobbly screen = No. it has the most rigid screen ever. Much more rigid than any non 2in1 I have seen. And I really like this.
Gigantic bezel = Newer thought it was big. It fits a full hd screen perfectly. And I think it is the best resolution currently.
You guys are using an 8K camera, which I am doing an honor by watching the video at 360p, because that's the only option at the moment.
UA-cam haven't processed it yet, give time and 4k will be available
UA-cam process takes a while
I can’t take 360p I’m going at 144p
that's why he said "because that's the only option *at the moment* ."
Which means the video is literally 1/144 of the original resolution. yikes...
Well i bought this laptop the 13in variant two weeks ago and i like it so far. Almost all the complaints linus made are exaggerated. The power button placement is convenient for no accidental presses during tablet or tent mode. The pen can stored in the sleeve that came with laptop. The trackpad is fine , I've actually installed the precision driver and found it to be skipping lots of presses, so i went to synaptics again (can you believe it?). The size of the keyboard is good even with the speakers on top. The bezels are there so you can hold it in tablet mode without accidental touches. The 16:9 ratio is standard, only surface and matebooks have 3:2. My only complains are the trackpad small rattle at the corners, and the sharp edges.
Edit 1: alot of people have been asking me , so I'll put my opinion after 1 years of usage.
I didn't experience overheating (idk about thermal throttle), but the case does get hot on your lab after a while.
The screen refresh rate never bothered me, but the brightness is bad for the price.
The laptop is good for light usage only. It's more form over function. Don't expect it to run crysis
The battery life held up quite good.
The laptop can only be charged by official HP charger, any other charger will not work.
All in all , I give it an 8/10 as a light office laptop.
It's main selling point is the 360 hinge which I didn't use much. Your better off with the xps if you want a no nonsense laptop. Touch screen is just not applicable for me in win10 devices
how's the overheating issue?
Exactly, the only other laptops i can find close to comparison spec for spec are the Dell XPS 15 and Surface Laptop and those are 20% more expensive, well out of my budget! I like the envy x360 version best though, better value.
What's your thoughts 3 months later? Im deciding between this or switching to apple
For 1200 is not good I think he means for all these little issues. For 1200 you can get better almost best technology available for that price
For the precision drivers, install the Lenovo precision synaptics then update it
Missed the entire purpose of the gem cut design. After complaints from convertible users that the power button is always getting hit, turning the machine on in the bag (leaving you with a dead laptop) or off while using it in tablet mode, HP created a brilliant fix--put it on a corner cut at a 45 degree angle and it's not able to be easily hit in any mode. It's harder to hit BY DESIGN.
You should never be able to turn on a laptop while it's closed. If the power button is hit then it should go into sleep mode and retain the battery.
@@naxzed_it but some people, like me for instance, use a laptop with a monitor and therefore need the computer to be on with the screen closed.
..... are we creating problems that don't exist?
would you rather close your laptops before putting them in a bag or have a power button in an uncomfortable position? are you seriously gonna choose the latter?
I think, calling a notebook "Spectre" with an intel CPU is something odd...
Sharra Shimada The order of naming is the opposite. Maybe the name was a dig at HP.
Sharra Shimada it’s not the worst, The Spectre x2 from 5 years ago was the worst.
- usb ports constantly breaking
- inside batteries failing after 18 months
- spareparts the repair the crap taking 8/12 weeks to be delivered
- screen heavier then base causing the laptop to wheelie all the time
the Spectre line of HP laptops has existed for long before the Spectre and Meltdown flaws where found. I'm typing on one right now that existed before those vulnerabilities where found and it was a late year refresh of model and wasn't the first year of that model either.
Stop giving SPOILERS dude
Lol nobody got the joke tho.
Spectre is a operational issue in intel chips like spoiler
Linus : We shoot in 8k !!
Me : Wow! I'm watching in 360p. What a privillege.
Insert obligatory "UA-cam hasn't finished processing yet!" Comment here
same
@@Michplay it's clear you can't understand a joke
@@mr0o how Long does it take for the 1080/1440 to process?
@@Michplay how long does it typically take for the higher definition vids to be playable?
*360p squad*
I'm gonna wait a bit before watching, hey, there is a good thing about that : 2 views for one viewer ;)
360p squad
I can see the 2 pixels!
360p squad
360p Squad:)
360p > 4k
I have been a follower or LTT for 5 years now and I have enjoyed many of there videos, often agreeing with some of there opinions and buying products based on how well they have been reviewed on this channel. For once though I disagree.
I watched this review after having expressed interest in the laptop and was amazed as to how negative this review was in comparison to others. In the end I have bought this laptop (13 inch model) and I am thoroughly impressed at everything about this laptop.
The pixel response times aren't noticeable even when I tried a little gaming.
The power button is easily accessible and you can charge it in any one of the USB C ports
The included leather sleeve (amazing btw) has a slot for the pen.
Trackpad is amazing once you install windows precision drivers that is
I highly recommend this laptop for anyone who is looking for a powerful 2 in 1 - 13inch model especially!
Oli Williams is there usb c adapter in the box? or just regular DC adapter ?
I have the 2018 version, I love it. Most of the stuff here is super critical, I agree. The bezels are no issue (no shitty we can angle, windows hello, ultra thin on the sides, easy to hold in tablet mode), I have never noticed the trackpad issue (palm rejection is amazing), and holy crap the battery life.
I got the same laptop, but in 15” with the 120hz display. I to was thoroughly impressed. Power button is no problem and I ageee with what you say. LTT can be a bit too negative...
vitmenn comes with at usb a to c in the box.
Same here, awesome laptop, even if you don't like it a completely negative review doesn't make any sense as it's one of the best on the market right now!
Taran, mad props to you for the mouse in the credits. 🐁🐁🐁
It's a cursor, not a mouse :P
@@TaranVH got 'em!
@@TaranVH THE MAN HIMSELF
xD
Nice try Linus but...
*I will still not buy a Macbook.*
That is not a macbook
@@RobbDrew03 you didn't get the joke did you
I'm too stupid to understand this joke.
Hhhhh ofcourse you won't
Nor me
Repole Com ياا صقيير
I have a HP laptop too which came with their shitty track-pad drivers but after installing Windows precision drivers manually it feels AMAZING!
How do you install the precision drivers without breaking it?
same here, i feel that he just exaggerated his feelings and instead of showing a simple solution, just emphasized it
@@trishangagarwal9464 there is solution to it but average consumers want it to work flawlessly after spending 2000 dollars.
The drivers help but as someone else said, it should come like this out of the box. The trackpad is so bad that you instantly get buyers remorse once you start using it. I have the 2019 envy x360 10th gen i7 and its going back, I was making due and getting use to it but the IPS glow and the horror stories of broken hinges was enough for me to send it back. Probably going with XPS 15 instead....
@@MaliciousSRT I have the 2018 Envy x360 and it's not good trust me. I had someone bring it to me from another country so I couldn't return it. I don't have IPS glow or I haven't noticed it but the hinge is annoying and the body picks up scratches easily despite a lot of good care from my part. The display is good but brightness could be better and some models don't have uniform backlighting. Definitely go with the XPS 15.
For once I disagree with Linus. I have the 13" version and I love it. No problems at all. You can easily install MS Precision drivers to the trackpad and problem solved!
I have one and I love it.
How do you do that?
Are there any issues with installing MS precision?
I actually get pissed off at this review. Those dead zones in the trackpad do not exist. Watching this review almost made me change my decision on saving up for this laptop and I thought I would have to look at another option. It shook my confidence in this laptop and broke my heart because I could not find a 15 inch 2 in 1 laptop with the dedicated graphics and a full sized keyboard. Everything else I looked at I was sacrificing at least one item on my spec list if I looked anywhere else. I actually had to go to bestbuy and test out the trackpad myself. While I can't say anything about them using Synaptic drivers in the trackpad, those dead zones he saw were not there. I got my HP Specter a week and a half ago and it is probably the best piece of technology I've had.
@@lunabright94 Literally went to a Best Buy after this to give it a shot (and to test the trackpad issues Linus mentioned)
No issues (at least with the display demo-units)
The thick top and bottom bezels are not outdated. They're purposely there to avoid accidental touching in tablet mode. The other laptops you've compared to are not 2-in-1, hence not needing to compromise big bezels for tablet mode.
Please read this linus
Still idiotic since then it's expecting you to use it as a tablet in portrait mode primarily, which...is not how most people use them.
@@nsriv225 People use IPads in portrait mode almost exclusively.
Still can't it change when it exceeds 180 degrees
@@JackMaverik Yes, but that's not how most 2 in 1's are used, and moreover why compromise?
HP executives seeing this : But he said no stylus holder, god damn it, we can't impress him at all!
😆 Linus kinda reminds you of that always complaining granny oh it's too hot, it's too cold, it's too long, it's too short, it's too bright, it's too dark.
Yeah just like he said, he makes a mistake
They could have done the pen holder magnetic at the right side.
Dude there's so much competition in the ultrabook world. Maybe these laptops are good on their own, but compared to the competition, they suck.
Linus's job is to compare it to the competition. If there is something cheaper but better he will recommend that instead. He will nitpick instead of being the average amazon review saying "yeah this thing is pretty good."
@@diegochavez7203 So which 2 in 1 convertible 13 inch has more power, is lighter, competed in battery life, has a similiar amount of IO and cheaper (or even equally priced) as the 13 inch version of this? It isn't Dell xps 2 in 1 13, it isn't the Lenovo 930, it isn't the surface book or the pro. I can't find it. The nearest thing might be the Samsung but no....just no. The LG Gram 2 in 1...yea. I think maybe, but you'll pay about $250 to $300 more for that right now so probably no.
I lost all my HP when a creeper exploded next to me
Genius
I lost all my HP when pros started playing fortnite
I'll give you a totem, you can't die. Legends don't and never die.
I lost my HP when the dementors ate its soul.
Nice
I bought the 15t in Poseidon Blue even after watching cuz every negative mentioned are features I don't use (games & touch pad). The on/off button is resolved by using your LEFT hand (not reaching diagonally across keyboard with your right). HP has a Labor Day sale and I saved $400!
ok.. Linus recommends it..
*buys whole private internet access*
Lawfy D. Ace Linus recommended.
Time to go buy a controlling share of PIA.
Yup
McAfee no!
Yeah I mean he said "something I would recommend buying though, is our sponsor" so yeah I m buying 100% of their stocks at the moment because Linus recommend it.
@@Dracossaint McAfee ? ua-cam.com/video/bKgf5PaBzyg/v-deo.html
I installed the Windows precision drivers on my Spectre X360 13 and the Laptop is a dream. No issues at all. No where. Best Laptop i ever owned
Maybe it's very obvious but I do not know haha, how did you install them?
I installed precision driver on the envy 15 x360 and it's a budget surface book (one machine to rule them all) for me.
I love the laptop as well
@@NederlandSkater search install Windows precision drivers on spectre x360 on youtube
I have the 15inch and honestly have never enjoyed a laptop this much. I came away a bit puzzled because after the review I checked the issues you were mentioning and in my 3 months with this machine I've never noticed the screen retention or trackpad issues but they are indeed present in direct comparison. The 15inch XPS I had before was plagued with much more stuff that annoyed me (which for some reason gets very positive reviews everywhere). Nevertheless nice that you came around to reviewing this
I have the 2018 "15 version and I love it, but knew the screen wobble wasn't the best, and definitely know the trackpad sucks lol... The bezels only bother me when I try to use it in tablet mode to read music because it's not the same width as a sheet of paper when it ABSOLUTELY could've been from these freaking bezels.
How is thermals because I have a dell 3 times as thick with same cpu and better gpu and thermals aren’t as good
I noticed the screen wobble too but you can just download the windows precision drivers and it fixes the trackpad super easy
@@minecraftmaster909 really good, you can push it and it'll play newer AAA titles at like medium or low settings around 1080p with decent frames.
-Proceeds to push a button on the left with the right hand
360p from Linus with 10Gbps.
Another person who doesn't know how UA-cam works..
His internet doesn't speed up UA-cam's video processing
UA-cam is processing the video. It takes a while for other resolutions to become available.
@@KyleW_TV lyle chill he jokin
@@KyleW_TV Have you ever heard of a joke? Obviously not. idiot.
Linus : 0:01 :
You know, i like my Razer Blade stealth.
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Apple is typing...
Dust: It's free real-estate
Thermal throttling has joined the chat
Apple has left the chat
I thought this was going to be one of those "I'm not racist... but..." memes.
Apple, last gens technology with next gens pricing.
They can fail even worse... I ordered 53 HP Elitebook 850 G5 laptops. They delivered 20 with the correct Belgian keyboard and 33 with an Italian keyboard and powerplug.
MaXtor Abonnementen why tf did you buy 53?????????
Rydoge 21 resell probably
Wait, Belgium and Italy do not follow the euro-plug standard?
Since you probably ordered those for your IT department, I suppose you could always contact HP and request proper replacements.
@@rydoge21 business laptops?
Rydoge 21 - we have a company with over 450 employees. And for those 53, the carepack on their old devices ended + the old devices run Win7 - and as you know. Next year no more Win7 support. So devices are End-of-Life.
Been using this 13 inch laptop for some time now.
1) Power button - reach fine, use fine. No problem at all
2) Trackpad - yes Synaptics drivers are not good but i changed them to Windows precision and since then they been working like a charm, no problem at all. Even with synaptics drivers installed I had no problem described here with “deadzones” one the trackpad. As I said though, changed to windows precision and trackpad no problem at all.
3) as for pen, you can attach it to the sleeve case that comes with the laptop, there is a special place for that.
I am thinking about this laptop too, is the pen smooth to use? i'm thinking of drawing with it. Thank you!
the pen is quite nice and smooth to use, i heard that HP tilt pen is better though. Didnt test it yet
What Linus has:
>8K camera
>10Gbps Internet
What UA-cam does:
>LOLOLOLOLOLO 360p
Never uplaoded a Video?
Donschnulione He literally said it in the comment you donkey!
@@ilpatongi he did said... nothing?
@DEcobra11 i thought he didnt know that processing Thingy. there are many people in this comment section like '' wHy Is ThIs 360p?!?!?!?!!!??!?! ''
@@donschnulione6646 Learn English
I tend to like most of your reviews Linus, but some times, such as this time, it feels like you’re the CinemaSins of reviewers.
Power button placement is not an issue on this device. Side mounted power buttons get hit accidentally ALL THE TIME.
The laptop sleeve INCLUDED with the device has a stylus holder. Heck, the stylus itself has a pocket clip if you’re desperate.
Even little things, like your complaint about the FP sensor not being in the power button. The last gen had that. Consumers asked for it back on the keyboard deck.
Yes some of your complains were definite warranted, but other than the 15in screen problems and trackpad issues, most of your complaints seem like non issues. In fact you’re the only reviewer of this device that had problems with these things.
I have the 13'' and I'll add my bit to Linus' experience. He is pretty much spot on for most things, but I did find that he was pretty harsh on certain details that really do not matter. For example, the power button is in the corner for ease of access, and it is really easy to reach at all times, I have never struggled to press it.
Also, the fingerprint sensor is on the palm rest area because users complained about it being on the side in earlier generations. That being said, the location is decent in my opinion, but the real problem is its accuracy. I usually have to press and lift my finger 2-3 times every time I want to unlock, and each reading itself takes probably half a second to a full second, making it noticeably slow and/or inaccurate.
The synaptics trackpad is bad with the synaptics driver, but after spending a couple of hours, I found a way to install precision drivers and it instantly becomes a GREAT trackpad.
Honestly, I was hesitating between the HP and a surface pro, but the lack of USB-C or thunderbolt 3 made me go the HP way. The build quality is not as good, but at least you get better specs and a cheaper price.
If only HP can have ''slightly'' better build quality, currently, buying HP, EVEN if I crack their laptop open manually and look at the thermal myself, some machine just simply dead on arrival, or dead in a week/month, my last gaming laptop is DOA, then Dead in 2 month, at least HP are replacing them, I guess?
wich driver did you use?
@@Verpal Yes they do have a problem with quality control too, especially for the Spectre x360 many people complained about the hinge not being straight, some laptops arriving with dents already... but I haven't heard yet about a laptop being dead on arrival.
@@AAntoine Well, guess it is just my model? It can't be just me right???
I have last year's Spectre x360 15"... yes the power button on the side wasn't the best choice, and I like where it is now.
The fingerprint sensor as well, I also believe Linus is completely wrong when he talked about the placement, the sensor on this thing is terrible on placement, but when I actually do find it, it works for me about 90% of the time.
I also got the precision drivers going on this puppy, and it's a beautiful trackpad after that correction.
Overall... beautiful and very functional laptop. I use it at work as an IT guy for a school district, gets thrown around a little more than i'd hope, and it still chugs along just fine.
Oh that cursor at 14:13 , made me literally almost fall of my bed xD
Dhruv Jain off*
xOr a f
xOr
Of = belonging to something. For example: The King OF the North
Off = opposite of on. But there are colloquialisms that will not fall in to that category. Like, "go off on you", which means to get mad at somebody, possibly raising the voice. I'm starting to doubt if that's a phrase now, but hopefully this helps, regardless.
@xOr to = I will go to your house
Too= I love you too
Too means as well, to talks about location or time (open from 2 to 8)
@xOr and there is "there, their and they're"
I own this laptop, and you can install precision drivers that make this trackpad literally infinitely better
David Li still an ugly screen, I can’t stare at that whole day.
I think it looks better in person
@@MrFijiBoySako What.. It's 4K.
Again its a beautiful design, I’m just talking about the bezel. Specially when your devices are ultra slim it doesn’t match the aesthetics. Try searching for Lenovo S940, now that’s where I see future aesthetic design.
@@MrFijiBoySako Fair enough, but I wouldn't recommend getting a 2-in-1 in that case. The thick top and bottom bezels are massively helpful when using the device in tablet mode, giving you an area that you can firmly grip without worrying about touching the screen itself. If you had slim bezels all around you'd either have to cradle it around the back, or try to get a pinch grip on the tiny bezels, which isn't comfortable or safe, and puts a point load on the chassis, vs. spreading the load out a bit.
As someone who has loved using W8 and W10 2-in-1 computers for a good 5 years now, despite how it may look aesthetically, not having those bezels would be a big downside for me, and the unit would have to truly amazing in other ways to make up for it.
Linus a stylus holder actually exists in the leather case that comes with it.
Unless it comes with that in the box though. Could've done what Dell with the XPS pen either and just have attach to the side magnetically.
@@CallanElliott it does come in the box
Yes, the case is included in the box and it has a place for the pen.
@@brandypenell9918 no it does not come with a case. ** For the 15" atleast.
So much for being a tech geek
*Linus* : Complains about palm rejection being enabled
*Also Linus* : Complains about palm rejection being disabled
I mean... thats the point. He was showing how using synaptics drivers didnt work well in either case. In stead of critizing Linus, you should be critizing HP.
@Bukan Vanessa Angel well no. Synaptics still exist because companies like hp still use it. So I wouldnt blame synaptics for existing when other companies fuel its existence.
@@iosonoi.7132 example :
Don't hate school shootings, hate people who allow guns to be legal and fuel private gun existance .
@@DrumsyPleaseShave well if you want to get technical:
should we blame synaptics or others who use it? Either one is valid. But which one is true? This is answered by (our capitalism) economic principles: essentially, if there is purchases, then there is demand. So synaptics is at no fault for continuing to make it. In your example: should we blame hate school shootings, or the people who allow guns to be legal and fuel private gun existence? Either one is valid, but which one is true? This is answered by legal framework and inspiration of the 2nd Amendment: hate school shootings, not the those who allow guns to be legal. What does it mean to hate school shootings? This is very vague because the design of your own argument is vague. lol
I mean...that's the point though. It sucks when it's on and it sucks when it's off. Which means it just sucks. The fact that Apple, for all their faults, has had industry leading trackpads for literally a decade at this point and nobody else seems to consistently come even close is just embarrassing. How has nobody else been able to get it right in all that time? And worse, fail so clearly as in this case? There is demonstrably more dead space than usable space in the default config shown here; that's straight up bad. They clearly assume all movements are starting in the middle and moving outwards, hiding the frankly _massive_ dead zone.
360P squad. ill wait a bit for youtube to render the vid
2p minutes later and it's still 360p
yes
you can override the drivers. My 2017 model (which I got for $950 in Jan) has precision drivers force installed and it feels incredible
And those drivers are now wonky with 1809 with a chance of completely disabling the touchpad.
@@cl4ster17 nah they work fine you gotta turn internet off before installing them and then block windows update from trying to update them
@@andrew23456able At least in my case there is no palm rejection at the borders when typing, i cannot adjust cursor speed within precision settings and tapping with three or four fingers doesn't work anymore. I set three finger tap to middle mouse button but for some reason it only registers when doing a four finger click.
I have no idea how to get it to work properly again like it did for all of 2018.
I didn't need to stop updates on my 2017 pavilion x360, it works just fine.
@@alpaslanarsalan949 it's on /r/spectrex360
Something I recommend buying is, our sponsor
Bruh
He's always complaining about the most silly things in every laptop video
We got 2 of these laptops, both of the screens fell out.
I mean, it’s hard to be objective about laptop reviews. Maybe that’s my PC gamer talking again, because they definitely make sense, but rare is the laptop which actually provides good value.
Ok well at least we know he’s covering all bases
The laptop is terrible, I got an HP (2 days ago) and its very slow, I tried running one of my games, but it could not handle it.
@@alena1884 what's the specs on it?
"better than an msi notebook", i laughed and cried a bit as the hinge of my msi gave out after a mere year of use.
Yeah, i know that.
My first laptop was a msi "gaming" laptop.
I literally felt like I burnt 1000€.
I was 12 years old.
I safed up over 2 years for that Laptop.
I was young and naive.
I wouldn't trust the Spectre line up after having owned the 2015 model and going through hell trying to get HP to replace a faulty motherboard(they never did and wanted to charge my $600 to replace it). It was a known issue that affected multiple products but HP wouldn't own up to their mistake.
I have a 2018 Spectre x360 which I've had for a year and a half. It started smoking through the charging port with regular charging. It is out of the 1 year warranty so if you call their support line for help they will tell you you're out of luck unless you pay hundreds of dollars for them to fix it. But I found out that if you post on the forums and get a mod to escalate your issue to a health and safety representative, they'll fix it for free one time.
It's still a pretty bad experience and I've seen a lot of people who posted about their Spectre motherboards also smoking or burning up in my time trying to get help. I'll be going with a different brand next time I need a new laptop.
Love the sponsorship transition...that 1-2 second awkward silence 😂😂❤️
Yeah, except I skipped at “Talking of plugging in...” :p
This guy just made a dissing review against HP . He's literally saying everything is bad with this laptop.
I bought the 15" last year, and have never had a better laptop (I've had many, from all the major vendors, both for work and privately). I never noticed the touch pad issue he mentions, probably because I just use it differently. The power button is a non-issue, I was actually super happy to see the placement. Then again, I am left handed. Also, mine came with the privacy screen feature, and judging from what I can see in this video, Fn+F1 on their keyboard has that same option available. Not sure how they would have missed that. My only issue with this laptop was that the function keys defaulted to the fancy functions instead of regular F keys, this was easily changed in the BIOS setup.
A note on my possible bias: I bought this, reluctantly at first, a few months after HP (actually HPE, it was after the split) laid me off because my work could be done cheaper in India.
@@michaeldamolsen Do you have any tips for improving gaming performance? I'm running Doom eternal and was just wondering if there was anything else I could do to give it a bit of gaming boost
@@silentgrind34 Have you tried turning the graphics down? Sometimes theres little things you can turn off that make the game run more smoothly
@@eviolus-5660 I did and it works I guess I just want the settings high😅 But It's not built for that
@@silentgrind34 Ah 😅 Maybe try looking for things you won't notice? And make sure you aren't running anything else in the background
360p shot with a 8k camera, double-double-double-double-sampling, this qualitity is the most crisp 360p i have ever watched
FU YT
Man UA-cam really hates your videos. You are the only channel I see that regularly has processing issues, and I know it isn't on your side.
I wish there was something we could do about it. At some point it has to affect viewercount, etc.
I never noticed that on a video after the first few hours. Maybe you are always the first to watch?
@@GradyHouger Right. After a few hours. The first few hours are when a fair chunk of their views come in, and they set pace for the rest of the day. Since most of their videos are pipelined, they're even uploaded (unlisted) early so YT can have it processed by the time it goes live. I watch plenty of videos on other channels that are ready to go at launch, but LTT videos frequently aren't fully processed after a few hours.
Garners nexus has had the same issues also
OK time for my pet peeve: 15" laptop with a full numpad and you still can't include proper arrow keys? WTF HP?
They are proper.
@@fleuphy Been using that. Fine by me.
I haaaate it, so many brands doing it this way, as some kind of standard. I always look for laptop with no cutted arrows buttons :D
My peeve
is when someone makes you aware that you're breathing
and you do it manually now.
im fine with it, hp keyboard layout seems good for me
Keep making these honest reviews they are great.
These companies charging us $1500+ for a laptop and just producing trash.
Synaptics drivers? I haven't seen those since my XP acer laptop
They still tend to sit around on the ultra cheap laptops. Like, the Lenovo S100 and the like.
HP still uses them. My laptop has same "feature"
@@rpb4865 "It's not a bug, it is a feature!"
Lucky you, I still use it daily on a HP laptop at work 😭
@@rpb4865 yeah I just use my g703 mouse instead i cant stand it
How about comparison of some 'pro' laptops? Like Lenovo ThinkPad, Dell Latitiude, HP EliteBook
If you want a pen, there's the X380 Yoga, which, while thick, has a pen holder built in, and is pretty well built
Elitebook is best always has been there no reason to do a comparison.
I have the x360 1030 g3 and the pens magnetic holder is awsome
Here's the deal: You're 100% spot on. These "spectre" line laptops are consumer grade crap. I build/deploy/support around 2800 endpoints in an enterprise environment where we recently (within the last year) started buying the Elitebook 1030 x360's along with the zbook Studio x360 g5. They're absolutely fantastic, solid, reliable computers. Do they have occasional issues? Yep, but they're otherwise fantastic. Worst computers I've ever deployed? Surface pros and surface books. 100% hot garbage.
Hey Linus, I love your videos.
Will you ever consider a Thinkpad P1?
I have 2017 x1 carbon
What about baldis basics thinkpad?
Notice that none of the replies above contributes to the original comment (including this one)
Lenovo makes some great laptops, strange they don't take them into consideration
@LTT, No love for Thinkpad? :-(
I've never had any issues that you've talked about on my HP Spectre x360 that I have that came out in 2016. I got it on Black Friday & i love that it's an all aluminum build. It's a solid laptop besides the degraded battery life. It's touchscreen but doesn't have pen support which I wish it did. I think I would get another Spectre next year depending on what HP does for the next generation model
You could also try the ThinkPad x1 carbon. It is super light has decent battery life, is user servicable to an extend and has a real strong keyboard.
And The X1E against the x360 15" for the performance.
Oh yes, after using a ThinkPad, every other keyboard feels low rent.
I actually have a Spectre x360 13" (2017 I believe) and except from the screen wobble everything is fine and also it didn't come with the synaptics drivers.
So is the touchpad thing no longer an issue?
@@jel1951 I have the 2015 and the dead zone is real, but I've never noticed it to be a problem unless you're comparing to something with a great trackpad like a Mac.
It did come with Synaptics Drivers. No HP laptop has ever used Windows Precision, especially not the Spectre and Envy. They will be bringing MS precision with the new Envy laptops with wood grain trackpads.
Lenovo has the privacy screen switching. "Thinkpad Privacy Guard". It works REALLY well.
Did ltt ever review the thinkpad x1 yogas?
@@vnyggi621 LTT never reviews anything Lenovo Thinkpad
@@vukos that's a shame. Their budget lines are appealing for uni students, I'm quite happy with my l380 yoga
this is technically just dimming the display
3:38 - Me: Um wtf, I didn't even touch the keyboard.
3:41 - Linus: STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
Realtime - Me: Ahhh...
Me: No.
well, I'll come later for 1080p. see you soon
Omega lol
Come baaack!
I'll come back later for 4K
there is not even 2k yet
10:03 - damn that dead zone shit makes me appreciate my 2015 macbook - no issues - no dead zones - immediate response anywhere in the trackpad
If I compare the screen and keyboard than Apple is also a winner in that segment imo
Plebs watching in 360p, I am soaking in the glory of 480p! You can barely see the artifacts!
You might just say the palm rest is the bleeding edge of technology! (I'll let myself out...)
Synaptics trackpads are a dealbreaker for any laptop, at least for me. I literally switched to Linux just to be able to use my trackpad without half a second of input lag and ridiculous acceleration.
I'm pretty sure that's a half-truth, and just your excuse to mention Linux.
@@50PullUps I was also fed up with the usual windows bullshit, but the trackpad really is that bad.
@CoDGplays You cannot use a mouse everywhere. In my university you get just enough space to put your laptop onto the table and type comfortably with about 7cm of space on either side, and that is with a 13" laptop.
@@invendelirium That idea ends as soon as you need to right click drag anything. For my laptop, the pen also has insane input lag so it is useless for anything other than writing.
*INSERT APPLE FANBOY HERE* bUt ThE MaCbOoK hAs A gReAt TrAcKpAd AnD iTs SyNaPtIc
HP already updated this laptop for late 2019 😂
I'll never trust HP hinges again thanks to my experience from the ENVY 17.
Same deal with the inspiron 15
What happened to your Envy? I just recently got one and reading this is scaring me 😂
Never had hinge issues with my 3 year old Spectre. Asus however....
I think its an ENVY thing, I had major issues with the hinges as well
which envy? if you can respond quickly i'd appreciate it as im about to get the HP envy 2 in 1's latest model. is that the one you had issues with the hinges on? I've had issues with HP hinges in the past so quite worried about that
Still using this since 2019. I got a top spec one with a GTX card and 32GB RAM. Best laptop to date
Hahahaha! Inconvenient power button and missing pen holder!! Man, just avoiding to present the most important things, or just mention it really quickly, you basically convinced me to buy that laptop by your video :) Thanks!
exactly 😂
I feel gifted that I’m watching this in 720p
Yet Linus makes these in 8K that little snob
I always watch in 720p, if they wouldn't upload it in 4K the quality of the 720p would be worse
Edit: just saw it's only 1080p, but recording in 8K results in better quality for all resolutions, I think they even did a separate video for this topic
I'm watching in 360p haha
I think they downscale from 8k to 1080p during editing because it makes it look better than when you film in 1080p because of youtube's compression
@@p3rpNZ That'S the reason why they shoot in 8k. They explain it in this video ua-cam.com/video/-W6JfiC-QBk/v-deo.html
I have a 13" xp360 (4k,i7,16gb) and am not experiencing the deadzone issues as you mentioned in the video.
AWSim how much keyboard flex do you get?
@@axellepatriadi5162 barely any, only if I really try to see if there is flex then i'll see it. But for everyday use, there's none
Does yours get very hot while in use, I have one spec’d out just like yours and mine gets blazing hot sometimes
I am using the 1065G7 version of X360, every problem mentioned in the video changed! Thanks Linus!
i watched this on a hp spectere x360 2019
Same here :D
Same here, have to get that OLED
I just bought my x360 2019 a month ago and only been using it recently for watching Netflix but the screen gets black sometimes while the audio is still playing. Have you guys had any problem like that ?
@@rondc7175 Ah, yes. If you lock it for example, the audio keeps playing too. I think what is happening for you is the screen saver function kicks in and blanks the screen. You can disable that in the power management settings, set it to "never" instead of 15 minutes (I think that is the default, can't check since I changed my setting already).
Actually, I don't think this is unique to HP laptops, I've seen it on many brands.
@@michaeldamolsen thanks for your response. I actually already did that and even change the refresh rate to 40hz. Tho it did somehow improve, it still turns black after a movie. It's still within warranty so I'm also gonna go have it checked in an HP service center after this quarantine. Stay safe !
My trackpad is totally fine and responsive, writing from a 15".
Honestly I have one (13 inch) and it's a very good laptop, trackpad wasn't that bad but after switching to windows precision drivers (literally 2 minutes) works flawlessly. Battery life is awesome, performance is amazing, keyboard is perfect, there's so many things going on for this laptop. Besides this is the only negative review on the web, and for a good reason: it's a very good product! Don't understand the negative tone on this review even for things like the placement of the power button that's been praised literally by everyone (me included, it's awesome!). Perfect? Maybe not, but this video surely is not objective or fair!
I have the older generation and I agree with everything you said.
I had the original release of the x360 13", it had:
-Interference between the USB 3.0 and bluetooth cards internally, causing USB 3.0 misbehaving with external HDDs and mice (unusable), and horribly jittery bluetooth connections with audio.
-Ghost touches on the display like crazy! Driver update HP released caused the screen to be much less responsive to "fix" the problem. Disabled the touchscreen permanently.
-Fan that screamed under any medium/high load.
-Unreliable audio jack recognition of headphones/mics plugged in.
-Hinges that racked and was obvious that the lid didn't line up with the body when closed.
-Crappy audio (expected but heavily oversold).
So yeah, that was my first and last high-end HP laptop, I'm off to Lenovo and not regretting a thing. Running a Lenovo Yoga 730 15"
Purchased one of these for University recently - has served me extremely well. Most of the issues stated here were not noticable and I love mine. The Sureview display is actually very good too - great when someone nosy is looking at your work when using it on a train / bus on your lap.
>No serial port
I'll stick with my old probook. Dammit HP, why are you the only supplier at my work place?
Usb-serial?
You are not going to get serial ports in new laptops.
If you want a serial port consider a Fujitsu Lifebook.
Some laptop manufacturer should really make a "Linus proof laptop" by watching most of the laptop reviews, making a checklist out of them on what is and isn't a good approach.
Then make that laptop.
Just to see what Linus thinks of it.
lmao stfu
I recently bought the hp Spectre x360 and with extended use I became aware of the bottom of the laptop getting hot. To combat that problem I bought a cheap laptop cooling pad, and it works like a charm to keep the laptop cool
HP do not keeps his words any more: No more "money back guaranty" they want only your money ,if you order per telephone be ready that salesman make mistake and you will get not what you wanted because, HP says April 11, 2019: "Unfortunately, we have to inform you that you are excluded from the 14-day right of return because it is a personalized ZBook. Therefore, a return of the goods is excluded"
I have the Envy 13" X360 Ryzen 5 2018 and i JUST noticed the touchpad thing, thanks to your video Linus....thanks, i guess...
I dont have the power button location problem though...
Sadly, Windows precision drivers used to work perfectly until the October Windows update broke them for whatever reason.
I have the same power botton on my ENVY. Button should be drawned because it is really hard to use the convertible mode: too often I suddenly press this button and the device just turns off((
@@Collide44 - What is "drawned"? I have no idea, literally. I suspect it's a misspelling, but my brain is not finding a close match.
I have no idea what he's talking about, mine is literally the best laptop I've ever used.
Hp spectre 360 u are using????i need honest review about thattt
I’m using the hp envy x360 from 2017 and it’s also one of my fav laptops
Ikr!
@@Mahnoornadeemm the HP spectre is a light and fast working laptop, it has a lot of memory and it has a long battery life. It’s touch screen works great! It’s not to small or big and it’s great to work with, I recommend to use this for school.
spectre x360 15' owner here. you can update the touch drivers to windows precision for free and go about your way. and there is a pen holder in the included leather case.
Build in privacy filter? T480S, T490, T490S,X1 Yoga, X1 Carbon.. Not unique to HP since 2018.
I've never owned a laptop, and I was going to get an HP Spectre.
@Rainbow Harvest get it anyways
Lenovo c930 or s940? also good ones nice trackpad, place for pen, screen without lag ;)
@bleach4711 okay
@@le_ep I'll look into it. Thanks.
I think Linus is getting this thing wrong.
I mean yes, the bezels are a bit big (the top one is big because of network hardware being hidden up there to ensure good connectivity) and yes the screen has a little bit of a slow reaction time, but srsly, I want to use that thing and not complain that a pixel turns off just not fast enough.
And yes, synaptics is not great but you can switch to precision if you just can't stand it at all.
But the rest is ridiculous.
The power button is just fine, I have never ever heard someone complain about a power button... I mean... Just no...
Complaining about the pen holder. For real. First you say you don't want a holder at all, now you say you want one. Get your s**t together and decide. Also, every single other 2in1 does not have a holder and there it is just fine.
The same thing with the hinge. Every other 2in1 has the same one and it is just fine...
13 inch makes more sense since it only charges via usb c. No complaints with cable and button placement you mentioned early in the video
Love the look of the spectre's but I've learned from the past, HP consumer laptops have always left me disappointed. I've had two with the power supplies going out a few months after owning the laptop. If you want HP go with their zbook line
Linus: this laptop has terrific performance, battery, security, design, etc....BuT tHe TrAcKpAd
Matthew Bowman do you recommend this laptop for hand written note taking ?
@@Diosadelguac No, not for handwritten notes
8k Camera, 10 Gbps internet and still wactching it at 360p
Debarshi Putatunda it’s UA-cam not him. UA-cam is still processing the video.
Who said UA-cam upgraded?
@@jamesmnguyen They need their own Linus I'm guessing
Just bought this laptop and then watched the review. I can confirm that the track pad no longer has that 2.5cm dead zone. It is now more like a cm and becomes active once the mouse is moving. Love the power button placement imo.
Please do a review on the new Asus FX505DY, which has AMD Ryzen 5 3550H and AMD Radeon RX560X
Wow I’m going to look that one up. Haven’t heard of it yet.
an RX560, interesting GPU choice
Brad Haines RX 560X is better than GTX 1050 and a little bit worse than the GTX 1050ti
Ryzen with slow one channel RAM. No, thanks.
William Walker It has 2400 mhz, it is not bad, from benchmarks that I have seen it gets around 120 fps on fortnite and apex legends and the screen is 120 hz
Looking fwd to seeing your review of the 2019 Ice Lake version as HP seems to have addressed all of your concerns: Bezels, windows precision trackpad and new displays
all of his complaints are bullshit. Love this channel but that was just stupid
For proper laptop review, go for Andrew Marc David or mobile tech review,
I like his past reviews, since last year, his biases have bloated to a point I couldn’t swallow anymore
I do come back and watch his reviews hoping he would return to his humble self, 😅
I have the Envy x360 with Synaptics touchpad. I see the same behavior and never considered it a problem. There is a buffer zone on the edge of the touchpad that won't activate the cursor. I tried exactly what Linus did.... slow or fast touching on the edge of the touchpad when the cursor is not visible doesn't wake the cursor. But after the cursor is awake and on screen, the same "dead zone" is not dead. I can move the cursor even along the extreme left edge of the pad. I think it is working as designed. The heels of my palms under my thumbs normally brush the edges of the touchpad as I touch type. So it's good that they don't trigger mouse action or clicks with this well-planned zone. And of course there are settings that I set a long time ago to change the size of the zone, sensitivity, cursor speed, etc. It's all good.
"The aluminum chassis is rigid, but not-
STAA!!"
I have a spectre and don't have any issues with the trackpad .
Julius Fäustel is it worth it? I mean is it fast and everything?
I love it. The only thing is that the fans are sometimes loud without a real reason.
Remember when lenovo was the best on market with their stylus going in a hole in the actual laptop? Yeah, c930
I went ahead and bought one. The trackpad is easily its weakest point. The 4K screen is okay but nothing spectacular. It also gets so hot that it's melted the glue holding the feet to the base. Just got a couple of replacements from HP. Without the feet, there's zero airflow through the fans as the air intake is at the bottom, so it just causes it to get hotter. Performance-wise, I can't complain.
Lenovo Yoga C930 is currently the best 2-1 laptop on the market.
Impossible to beat at that price
Agreed. It's significantly better in terms of build quality. It's also light and perfectly sized
On one right now, agree wholeheartedly.
Have you tried the HP Envy x360 13?
It's a price tier lower than the spectre, although the Build quality is really nice, there is no Deck Flex, it has the same Keyboard but not these weird trackpad and monitor issues.
Oh, and it features Ryzen Mobile ^^
That’s debatable. The new dell XPS is a really solid laptop.
Some new thinkpads have the toggleable privacy screen mode.
called privacy guard, if someone want to search for them
@@peterderbeste6817 and it works SOOO well. I'm a fan.
I almost feel gifted for being able to watch it in 480p x)
Complain to UA-cam then
When you buy 8k cameras but can only watch in 480p
I have used the most expensive spectre, the 15 inch DF-0500ND, and it overheated after three weeks and I had to send it back. Where nothing got fixed... This was apparently due to some problem with the 1050 Ti Max-Q inside. bottom line, do not by unless you want to be unable to use your laptop for three weeks, three/four weeks after purchase (and you have $2799 dollars laying around).
Lenovo thinkpad has the option for privacy guard display.