EXPOSED: The truth behind the clickbait.
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2024
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I've watched your vids frequently but was not a subscriber. However I have decided to subscribe after watching this one. 😊
I'm completely with you on this one. I care deeply about not being sensationalist in my videos, which are ultimately my "product". I view the thumbnail and title as a marketing package to get people interested in my product, and of course it has to be a bit sensationalist at times to have a chance against the other videos on UA-cam. That's how the algorithm and the audience works in 2024.
Yah, totally my take as well, and it’s not just UA-cam, it’s our job. Getting people to watch the videos is part of the job. Then hopefully we deliver a satisfying experience with the video.
I don't mind the clickbaity titles and thumbnails at all.
What irritates me is that in the actual video itself you'll often not actually mention the lens you're talking about, referring to it as "this lens" in the dialogue. You don't seem to be doing it a much any more, but it is still there occasionally
Yes, stopped doing that, it’s all been a big experiment, and that really provided an unsatisfactory viewing experience. I have only done it once, recently, and that was just an oversight.
This. This is exactly the only thing that makes Mark's videos less interesting to me than other reviewers. Which is regrettable, because I like how in depth and informative his reviews are. That's why I really appreciate his transparency and the change he decided to make lately.
Mark - I am a very experienced photographer and I love your channel. I recently purchased the TTartisans 56MM, f1.8 lens on your recommendation. I picked it up for 129.00 and the optics are outstanding. It would have been unlikely that I would have purchased this lens were it not for your terrific videos.
Thank you!I know, that lens is nuts. Like how it’s is possibly that cheap. I was talking to another UA-cam buddy today and we were both dumbfounded by the price to performance.
We need more people saying things like this, appreciate the transparency.
Thanks! Hope you are well, I have watched a number of your videos. You are an excellent presenter, really enjoy them.
@@markwiemels Thanks Mark, likewise! Hope all is well, I've been enjoying your videos too.
Honestly, the way you do your title works because I don’t know what lens you’re talking about until I click the video. Great strategy
The problem is that it probably scares away on the mid/longterm the others who are interested in having a more 'objective' (e.g. the 5:55 example). But creators need to have fair return and today clickbait kind of works. IMHO it's just an algorithm problem, where balanced-optimisation takes over redactional quality. Would love better curation, or maybe a two-title option for videos.
I'm here because of a recommendation of someone, and I subscribed because of the quality of your videos. I couldn't care less about the titles. Thank you so much for all your work! ❤
Great video Mark, speaking of adding value I learned so much from this video and was honored to be able to chat in person at NAB. Keep in touch man 🖖
Thanks! Hope you are doing well. Yes, it was super cool to to get to hang out. Looking forward to next year.
I appreciate you sharing this Mark👊Really great info and insights!
Thanks!
This is a Great channel, great breakdowns gear and lens, etc. there is no bs on your talking points. appreciate the transparency.
Thanks for the little behind the scenes take on yt stuff. I find it fascinating. I actually had a few of your recent lens videos in my watch later, so that when I'm ready to buy a lens I can go back to them. I finally just made a private playlist of some of your lens videos so I can find them later. :) Would a hashtag of the lens work in those videos, so people could find them later?
I really appreciate the transparency in this video. For many of us, I don't think we actually need an explanation because we know that it's just how UA-cam works. Half of the problem is the algorithm, but the other half is how people get sucked in by sensationalist writing, which is not your problem. So, I fully understand why you need to go this route. That said, my only warning would be to remember your "Don't be evil" value, which I think is a very good one to have. Some titles designed to provoke a reaction (e.g. "Why x blows y out of the water!", "Will x kill off y for good?", "x is now irrelevant!") can feed into the fandom issues and petty fighting that we see in the photography world. For example, the APS-C vs Full Frame debate, which shouldn't even be a debate, but we see some people fighting for one side and actively trying to kill the other. You might find that some of your most clickable titles inadvertently undermine one of your primary goals for the channel. Not "evil" of course, but possibly having a subtle negative impact, even if the content of the video itself is balanced (not everyone will watch the video).
appreciate all the hard work you put in. for me titles no problem but at times I was totally confused to what products your reviewing. I had to click into the purchase links to understand what the product which kind of made me question the motivations and reliability of the review if I am feeling forced to go to a store front.
Agree completely.
I was going to say the same thing. In the Viltrox 27mm f1.2 video mentioned, the name of the lens isn't mentioned until 3:45. I would have expected it to be somewhere in the description at minimum. That's also probably what's making it so hard to search for these reviews based on the lens name: the search-bar can only give results on text, not the video itself.
Yes, I have changed this format in the more recent videos.
pretty ironic that the full frame irrelevant video's top comment is from a viewer that says its impossible to find the video because the title gives no information at all.
I don’t think it’s ironic, I talked about that in this video. It’s how the video gets views, with a tittle and thumbnail that is clickable on the home page, but can’t be found in search, which is an annoying side effect of the strategy.
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@@markwiemels Do what some UA-camrs do and after 2 or 3 weeks or after the clickbait views die down, switch to a searchable title.
Mark, this speaks directly to me. I feel like my YT content is being passed by because I don't feel like playing the "thumbnail/ like and subscribe" game. I spend so much time and effort and a lot of my content gets less than 300 views.
Yeah, it's brutal. I did it for years.
I have been following your content since you purchased a Canon M6 II and convinced me that it was better for my use than a Sony equivalent (still using it and enjoy it since day 1), and always enjoyed your content. Now, I will be honest I have noticed the clickbait strategy and, having tried UA-cam a bit too, I get where you are going. If it helps grow the channel, go for it! You do what needs doing to achieve a purpose. No one is going to get hurt, don't worry. Another good video, and thank you for being transparent.
I loved hearing your thoughts on all of this Mark! Everyone has a different approach to UA-cam.
There is another audience you attract as well. The people who have a high budget but enjoy your authenticity. Your video may have been intended as an explanation to your strategy, but for me it was an education on how I should look at my review titles and thumbnails. I appreciate. If the comments get nasty or negative without respectful constructive criticism I just delete them. Keep up the good work, Mark.
Thanks Jarred, hope you are doing well.
Mark, I really appreciate your videos and your style. Keep your style and your approach! What sets you apart is that the actual information you provide is on point and relevant.
Thank you!
On the topic of how to make these videos with "clickable" titles appear in search, the tech channel LinusTechTips posts new videos with clickable titles, waits for a week or two, then retroactively add the product name back into the title. This ensures that you can get the initial boom, AND make the video searchable (after the boom).
This is great information. Thanks.
Agreed. I think if you adopted this strategy it would be a win-win! (I could find your vids later in a search)
Thanks for your transparency Mark. You could create lists for each lens by manufacturer or preferably by mount.
That’s one of the options I have in mind, thanks for the feedback.
I value your videos a lot and I was also curious why they are not too popular, regarding the quality of the content.
I totally understand and support, if you need to use these tactics.
I am totally the target audience you described, did not know about these good price/quality lenses.
The only difficulty for me is, when I want to get back to a video I watched about a particular lense, it is hard to find that with these titles. But if it helps you this way, I can live with it.
Lastly, it is uncommon that people would make such videos, which explain their point of view on a sensitive topic like clickbait. It shows that you care and are transparent.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks, Yes, I hope to work out a way for viewer like yourself to find the videos based on the lens, while not hurting the views of the video. So that's in the works.
This was a really interesting video 🙂 Always nice to get an insight to what other creators think! I was thinking about what you said in the end of the video, that the clickbait titles doesn't show up in search. What about the tag section when uploading a video, if you put the name of the lens in the tags, won't that help the video being searchable?
I'm going to start trying that, can't hurt. UA-cam did say, some time ago, that tags don't matter anymore, but it's worth a try.
Whilst I don't have a solution and I understand the relevance of clickbait, I do think with certain contents where integrity is paramount, it's probably best avoided. It's also obviously beneficial to know your audience, but if you only focus on the amateur market, you might only hold them until they leave the nest. Your content is great, you deserve more followers
Interesting dilemma, thanks for the overview of the YT landscape and it all makes sense
I appreciate the information you bring to the viewers
I have found your channel by looking for what i need done/improved with my m50, back then i did not know much about cameras, photography ... I just hated the 18-44 that came with it ... 2 years later, I am taking professional photos with Ttartisan 25mm 2.0, some chinesse 50mm 1.4 and canon 55-200 (the 50mm is my favorite for outside portraits) ! Please continue the amazin work you are doing, we need you !
Thanks for this video Mark, looking forward to the list of lenses you have reviewed here! I've been struggling when I wanted to buy some of the gear you recommended!
Hi Mark,
I recently stumbled upon your UA-cam video while searching for budget-friendly lenses suitable for family photography as a beginner. Your video on the TTArtisan 35mm f1.8 lens was incredibly helpful and detailed, and I wanted to extend my thanks for creating such informative content.
After watching your review, I decided to go ahead and order the TTArtisan 35mm f1.8 lens. Your insights and demonstration really convinced me that it would be a great fit for capturing family moments, especially with its wide aperture.
I must commend you on your excellent work and the effort you put into your videos. Your channel is truly amazing, and I will definitely be recommending it to my friends who share the same interest in photography. Your reviews are not only insightful but also very easy to follow, which makes them perfect for beginners like me.
Once again, thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise. Looking forward to more great content from your channel!
Wow! Thanks for the encouragement.
Really interesting video. I originally found your channel as I was searching for info on the Canon M50. I have no idea how the UA-cam algorithm works but, if you had a less descriptive and more of a "clickbait style title back in the day, would you have come up in my searches? Now that I am hooked on your excellent content (and Melbourne scenescapes), I watch every episode of your channel regardless of title!
I also do note that in your vids, you often do not mention the vendor of the lens you are discussing - i need to look more closely and/or follow the product links. I love your "sneakiness"!
I'm trying to keep the intrigue, but clearly "unveil" the lens within the first few mins of the video now. I think it was annoying for people watching on TV's, not easy to check the links. It's all a big experiment for me.
Can you show in a future video how you shoot your thumbnails? The white table with that cool looking black background and having this all exposed properly.
Thanks
I should, I get asked a lot.
I didn't think they were click baity. 🤷♂Love your channel and content. Keep up the great work!👍
What a shame. I would refer to a UA-camr . Martijn Doolaard who has built a subscriber audience of 689k. Never used clickbait and is describing his renovation of an Italian Shepards house in the mountains. It has been a slow burn but he never resorted clickbait
The way the algorithm works changes over time. There are plenty of channels that grew and found an audience before a lot of these changes in the algorithm and can keep growing. The problem is when you're a smaller channel trying to find exposure through the current algorithm.
@@OmarTorres Not sure the point you are making. Perhaps it may be that your content is not significant. It is perhaps easy to blame the alogrithim.
@@stephencharlton2024 My point was that your UA-camr example might have thrived under a different version of the algorithm.
Very interesting case, thanks for the information. He has a totally different strategy, which may or may not works in this niche, but it would be worth trying for sure. Long videos, like his, that can get long watch-time will be promoted by youtube even if they have lower clicks through rates. I'm not sure I could get someone to watch a 45 min lens review, but maybe something else in the photo/video space would work.
This is great info - we're all trying to do the best videos we can and eventually we all have to stop making videos unless people actually watch the video. They need to find us somehow.
You’re style is fine. I think the YT Algorithm is f’d! I watch quite a a few and it amazes me what I get on a search. After 4 years on YT I just was exposed to you late last year. I appreciate your honesty and sincerity! I follow people, not thumbnails or titles.
Thank you. That’s cool. UA-cam is really trying to get people to move away from following “people” now, it’s really a different model. Even subscribing to a channel doesn’t matter anymore.
Very interesting video. I’m curious as to why you don’t use hashtags for those who are going back to find videos later
Thanks for the suggestion, I will try it.
I loved this. I think you do an excellent job of making things interesting and accessible for everyone. Even if there's a "clickbait" element, it's clear that you genuinely care about the audience and want to be as helpful as possible. The best video in the world isn't helpful if no one sees it.
Thanks Tom. I appreciate the support.
I'm currently revamping my channel to eventually monetize it. This strategy will be something I keep in mind if I feel the growth is too shallow. I am going to mainly try to let the thumbnail and the hover preview do all the talking with straight product named titles initially though. Those titles do work and I certainly can't argue with that, but losing the search feature is a big hurdle to overcome. I appreciate the transparency.
I'm with you, Mark. Please do what you need to do. I truly appreciate all you do, and I promote your videos when they are warranted. Your message fits me, and I think it fits many more. I believe half the fun with this medium is how much you can gain and grow; to do that, you must experiment. Please keep up the content and keep blazing the trail.
Thanks
As a fellow creator (newby) I get everything you are saying in this upload. YT is a science . I’ve recently improved my stats moving from an iPhone to a Sony ZVE-10 with Tamron 17-70 lens. Despite the hassles of keeping wood dust out of the camera and the logistics of changing positions it’s been worth the investment. Thanks to you and your channel I’ve learned a great deal and I know my choice has been a good one. I’m by no means any level of a photographer but I am loving the learning curve and watching many of your videos to help grow my channel. Thanks Mark and keep up the great work! Cheers
Thanks, and good luck!
I was specifically look for 27mm Viltrox lens review and yours show up lol Though, I don't really care if the title is a clickbait as long as the content is GOOD! If it is bad then I will be slightly upset haha and yours is clearly good. More important I appreciate the honesty/transparency more than anything.
Oh hey Mark! Great video as usual. As far as helping make the videos searchable are you adding hashtags? You could also add the lens name/info in the description. I tried starting a channel based on a digital card game and would hashtag each of the 12 cards names in the “deck” to help searches which it seemed to do. Unfortunately I found that that type of content wasn’t enjoyable for me almost hit 600 subs 😅
Sub'd to your channel a month or so ago. Ended up purchasing the Britin Star 35mm f0.95 lens for Fuji based on your review, got it directly from them, and it's fun to shoot manual with. Just curious, believe you indicated in one of your videos that you're from the Midwest (Michigan, Ohio?) but are now in Australia. How'd you end up making that move, what factors went into your decision? Would love to know more about that. Hope your physical health is improving as well. Cheers from Lafayette, LA, US
I moved with my family 27 years ago, I was young then, the moved back and I stayed. Its a very easy place to live, safe, free health care, but it is expensive now, that's the only downside.
@@markwiemels Hey thanks, always wanted to visit Australia, but I'm 75 now and my back just couldn't handle that LONG flight from the west coast. It's a beautiful country.
Hey Mark, I like your videos and the lenses you cover are very interesting but I have been a Canon shooter for years so my equipment has the older EF mount. The one thing I haven't been able to figure out is if there is an EF converter for the lens mount types you list in your descriptions. Is there something you recommend or do you have a video where you cover the most common mount types out there and what converters are available. Most of the lenses you have recommended are quite interesting but I haven't bought a single one because I haven't figured out if I can make it work with the equipment I have. BTW, I have noticed the clickbait titles recently, they are fine as long as you are telling the truth and not using them to promote some false personal opinion which so many people do. Those are the people who give the term influencer a bad name.
Thanks, that's a great idea for a video.
Honestly, no complaints about the clickbait stuff, you gotta chase the bag, as the youth say. One piece of feedback I will offer though, is maybe you could leave a few more seconds after your signoff when you have the next video on screen so that folks can actually click it! Either way, this channel has been super helpful though as someone new to the photography space, so I appreciate that!
Thank you.
As a fellow UA-camr, I think you need to experiment with different titles/thumbnails to see the results. If you're not getting the results you want you need to change it up. It's just the way it is. A/B testing of thumbnails or repurposing of videos is also a good way to see what resonates with your audience. I don't want to say it's necessarily trial and error, but the UA-cam algorithm can be picky. Love your channel & keep up the good work! I've bought so many things based on your recommendations.
I've watched most of your videos and your among the best and my most favorite photography vloggers. Couldn't care less if it's clickbait or not it's always incredibly informative and valuable information. Glad you'll reach more people.
Wow, thank you!
Strat is working because I'm still new to the field and it's helped me find a couple of budget lenses to use for work. I watch enough YT to know what you're doing but I can understand how some people still don't like it. Regardless, your videos are a big help to me, a Sony APS-C user. Thanks for advice!!
Good to hear.
Man UA-cam is a constant changing Beast that is hard to figure out . Do what you need to do to get your stuff out there
The titles are how I found you and have bought a couple of the lenses and thank you and love the lenses.
I really don't care about the clickbaity title, I just really like your videos.
Thanks
UA-cam probably uses metadata from the description section to get search working. Maybe you could add info about the lens a week after the video has released to at least appear in search. Just a thought
Yes, I’m going to try tags and putting stuff in the description. Will keep everyone updated.
I appreciate the transparency and understand you have to play the game to get the views. What I don’t like about the title of the sample video is that it doesn’t say what mount(s) it’s for. As a Canon user I’m not interested in clicking on any video for a lens that is for a Sony, or Nikon or other platform. I’d be nice to save our time by stating that in the title or thumbnail.
I watch your videos because I am in that category of new to camera's and everything else that goes into just getting an image focused just right...lol, but I also watch because you are informative and speak in a manner that is helpful and hey some videos just won't be seen unless you use UA-cam standards of promoting your videos. I say keep up the great work and thank you Mark.
Thanks man!
@markwiemels no honestly. You have content that needs to be done due to others like myself. I realize I am only 1 person, but you do a great job. Even for a guy who has a terminal illness!
The chocolate covered broccoli. What people need is the veggies, but what they want is the chocolate. So you you have to dip the broccoli in chocolate so they get their veggies! No one in the photography niche is doing this quite as well you, Mark.
Thanks, going to have that chocolate cover broccoli for lunch.
I continue to enjoy your channel and just want to say, carry on as you are. If I were in the market for a ‘new’ lens, your channel would be my first stop. I might even buy the Brightin Star 35mm f0.95 even though I have no real need of it, because of you I want it I don’t need it. Let the haters hate!
For the record, I don't think anyone can contest that your videos are high quality and a lot of work has been put into them. That being said, if you listed the item name in the description or name dropped it in the first quarter of your videos, I wouldn't have any issues. I understand that you're doing it this way to get me to click the affiliate link, but it feels more like you're trying to trick me into using the affiliate link as opposed to me using your affiliate link because I want to support your channel.
I’m an advanced amateur photographer shooting Fuji xt30ii, and a fan of your channel, the only thing is I wish you named the brands of the lenses at the outset of th video.
sometimes I’m not sure if I just missed it or if it’s being held back for suspense. Even with that , which I don’t like to be honest , your videos are excellent and informative/entertaining but since you brought the subject I hope I can provide some useful criticism. Cheers
Yes, I have stoped that practice, any recent video that is like that would be an oversight. I'm trying to do a short interesting story, or compelling intro, with a clear lens "reveal" in the first few minutes now.
Unfortunately it's the reality of YT. Good thumbnail is more important than video itself. I'm not saying I'm making good videos, but better the thumbnail, more views (I especially seen this on one of my last videos, when I got 3k views in 1 day, when I usually get 500 total).
Although I haven't clicked on any of your latest videos because of these thumbnails and titles. I'm subscribed since your "non-photographic video regarding the illness" and watched a lot of videos about lenses which seems interesting to me, but there were always information what is it in the title. Now I just skipped them, cause I'm not sure what the video is about and I do not usually have time to watch first 3 minutes to figure that out.
So there's a drawback ... you probably get more views and new subs, but myself as loyal viewer, I do not watch your new videos anymore.
As you say, without a catchy title, the algorithms are not going to recommend any video. Many of us have been involved in amateur photography for decades but we still look for “solid” but cheap lenses or cameras that might be fun and we can literally play with. Besides, there are many more beginners, learners and experienced, but-not-totally-serious amateurs who will need/enjoy your videos, than obsessives who can’t wait for the latest, newly updated, professional Sony/Nikon/Canon lens of whatever focal length or zoom range to be released, even though they own the previous, highly capable version.
Thanks for making this video explaining your reasoning.
I love the information you share. You give real clarity of knowledge and wealth of knowledge. I watch and learn the detailed information that can be appreciated and applied..🎉🎉
So Kind of you, thanks.
When you say "APS-C lens," do you mean you don't need to apply the crop factor to the focal length? So, a 27mm APS-C lens on my Sony a6600 has the field of view of a 27mm on an full-frame camera?BTW--I really like your reviews and have bought at least 2 lenses you featured here: The 25mm with the screw-on lens cap (my go-to street lens) and the Samyang 12mm f/2. Now I check your channel before buying a lens to see if you have reviewed it. Your practical "I've used it and this was my experience" approach is so helpful to me when making a purchase decision.
You always apply the crop factor. It' just a 27mm APS-C lens won't project an image big enough to cover a full frame lens, or there may be quality issues. You can use a 27mm full frame lens on an APS-C camera, but a 27mm ASP-C lens won't be good on a full frame camera.
Great video as always, keep doing what your doing. I have purchased two lens after your reviews the efm 11-22 & 7 Artisans 25mm 1.8 both have been fantastic. I can believe how good the 7artisans lens is, I'm torn between the Brightin star 35mm and the TTartisans 56 for my next purchased will have to rewatch your videos again 😄
As an editor/producer for a YT channel that actually can save lives (covering diseases and viruses) it is a constant struggle to create titles that have some verbal appeal without being scientifically inaccurate (the thumbnails are often boilerplate, unfortunately). If we get it wrong, not only do the view numbers struggle but the YT algorithm will tell you why: "Compared to previous videos on your channel, people who regularly watch your channel are clicking less on this video’s title or thumbnail. Improving the title or thumbnail of this video might increase viewership, but keep in mind that some topics may just naturally attract a smaller audience." I fully empathize with your dilemma and agree with your reasoning. BTW I did get a deal on a (barely) used Viltrox 27mm at BH. Superb on my A6700.
Yes, such a great lens.
Nothing wrong with what you’re doing ! Love from South Africa 🇿🇦
I recently discovered this channel because I watch a lot of photography channels and YT displayed your thumbnails to me. I haven't seen any of your stuff that I would consider clickbait, including the example you gave. What I consider clickbait is when someone makes a very interesting thumbnail & title, but the video has absolutely nothing to do with what was in the title. That's when I get pissed off and learn to avoid that UA-camr. Your channel is very interesting and informative and you explain things very clearly.
I did find one thing a little irritating, though. It is obvious in some of the videos that you are targeting an audience of people on a tight budget and yet every lens is one that wont fit a Canon EF mount. I'm thinking to myself: what are we supposed to toss our DSLRs into the trash? If DSLRs are so obsolete why do they still cost so much even for a beat up used one? 😂😂😂
Thanks. You are not the only one to mention the EF mount. It has got me thinking about how I can support those viewers, so thank you for mentioning it.
I agree and don’t agree. As a consumer if I search for something for research purposes and a video pops up. If I click on you have to understand one important thing is time. Most people believe their time is valuable and want a video they’ve selected by title to be accurate and honest in its presence for viewing. I get your point and can understand trying to reach the audience. So I understand but honesty at the forefront is important in being transparent in what you are showing and opinionizing as a professional. So you have to see it from that side as well. It’s like going to a dealer to look at a car but their is no brand name or model badge being presented to you, and they say hey, we’re glad you are here but we can’t tell you the brand or model until we gone over everything. Would you leave the dealer, or would you stay. Same concept and I think that’s how people see it. I’ve seen multiple of your videos and like them but it is inconvenient sometimes not having the transparency of the product being showcased in your video. I hope you understand what I’m relaying on don’t mind my point of view. I appreciate your videos but I think it something to think about also. Balance and truthfulness to sustain integrity in what you’re doing.
I understand your position. You have go with the flow, or the algorithm will bury you down. The problem I see with the clickbaity thumbs is that, now that everyone is doing it, they have lost the effect. Every single video (from all creators) is "this is a game changer", or "don't buy this product before you see this video", or "this should be illegal", to a point where nobody believes the titles anymore. It's become a dumb race to find the most impacting words to even the most mundane subjects. Actually, I've been trying to avoid clicking on obviously dishonestly-titled video, and that can be a problem.
Yeh, I’m actually avoiding those catch phases as much as possible now. There are all from chat GPT, that’s where everyone is getting them.
@@markwiemels I feel we're falling into a "boy who cried wolf" situation. When something really amazing or game changing happens, nobody's going to believe. ;)
Anyway, your videos are really good. Thank you.
I find clickbait titles tedious. Like I'm being treated as though I'm not that bright. If the material is good enough, then I endure them. I mean, I get it. It's a business. But it invariably turns me off, at least mildly. So then I guess the question is, how large a component of the audience am I? Dunno. All that said, I'm a subscriber. I like your commentary and reviews. Cheers.
I agree with you
Hey I think you're doing great. Even the haters are watching :)
Keep it going!
Clickbait is clickbait, but as long as you deliver the goods I'm okay. Haters will hate. Trolls will troll. Beware of those who speak ill of others. Look, there's no BS here boys and girls.
I love UA-cam. Now there are actually videos made by content creators explaining why they use clickbait titles. You’re not the only one. I’ve seen at least ten this weekend. It’s the new “I’m quitting UA-cam and then they don’t” video. What will we have next? 🤷🏼♂️
You’re stuck in an algorithm feedback loop. I have literally never see one of these videos, but as soon as you watch one, UA-cam will give you another, and another, and around it goes. The more you watch or comment the more you will see.
@@markwiemels I would agree with you mate, to a point, except I use 6 different UA-cam accounts, depending on what I am watching. It's the same on every account, but with a different search history and watchlist. I'm not being critical really, it was just an observation. Cheers.
Hey mate, keep on keeping on! I'm happy to see these changes you are making to your thumbnail and title format, the quality and content of your videos is great which is the most important part, if you can net a few more people watching and supporting this channel that's awesome! Also, I love seeing your B-Roll and photography from around my home city, always makes me smile.
Fans. The word is fans of the channel.
Of course! Thanks!
In my view the definition of clickbait is misleading in the first place. I never thought of your thumbnails as misleading. If a thumbnail is not misleading in any way but shows an exciting part of the video it's just a good visual summary.
Keep up the good work Mark. I love your videos. Unfortunately, the world will always have it's share of haters! Click bait doesn't particularly worry me, as long as you are aware of it and accept it for what it is.
F### the haters! Your content is great, I'd only suggest you showed more photos and videos made with the products. I LOVE the comparisons you make, BTW... I watched one about microfones that was fantastic, just perfect!
BTW 2: I LOVE your thumbnail for this video, amazing. 😂
I am not a content creator; I am a typical consumer. However, having worked in PR and advertising, I understand that creating traffic is essential to succeed professionally. Catchy titles are a part of this strategy. Nevertheless, there is a distinct difference between sounding sensationalistic and being misleading. Although I am not a photographic newbie, I like your videos a lot. But if it takes half or the entire video until you mention the name of the lens, which is the key topic of your video, people won't click on your affiliate links but on the unsubscribe button. Sensationalism and clickbaiting are not the problem, as long as your video and yourself appear transparent, trustworthy, authentic, and honest.
Thanks. Yes, I have changed that format in the newer videos.
Perhaps using tags with the actual manufacture, brand-name, focal length and aperture may help the videos be searchable. Perhaps either putting it in at the initial posting of the video or following up a week or two later after checking your analytics, and editing your tags if you want it more searchable. Not sure how much it affects the search-ability, but it wouldn’t be there if it didn’t help in some way. Can’t hurt right?
Agree! I will try that.
@@markwiemels Keep up the great work. I really enjoy your content.
Just an idea ... a short that is searchable by product name linking back to the long-form video -
thereby keeping your reachable thumbnail and title in more profitable longform video, but providing a searchable link to it.
Ex. Short - Viltrox 27mm - Beats Full Frame?
(Link to original longform)
This is just coming from a consumer, not a UA-camr. You've probably already thought of that.
Thats a very good idea! Thanks! I did not think of that, I will try it.
Some info for you. I watch most of your videos, I own NO cameras, aside from my phone, I just enjoy mechanical things. one thing I wanted to point out is that I watch UA-cam on my smart TV, NOT my computer, and there is no way to comment there, And I don't know if people watching on a smart TV gives you "click counts". Just a thought.
Your system works. The Brightin star 0.95 35mm is still one of my fav purchases ever.
It’s soo good. Still love that one.
May I suggest a lens index on your own website. This links back to the UA-cam video. Drive some traffic back to you. Keep naming the vids to fit the strategy.
Thanks, yes, I'm thinking about that too.
I would like you to use at least general information about the thype of hardware you speak about, in the description. If not I look just into the affilate links and then search for the lense reviews alsewhere.
The titles are fun ❤😊
I think you are overthinking this. I think you are one of the best lens reviewers and how did I find you, I found you when I was looking for reviews on lenses. Now when you review a lens I don't know what it is unless I follow the links, a real turnoff. Rather I want to know what YOU think about X lens. Just put your videos out with the lens names, and we will come. Your videos are good enough that I want to know what you think, like Gerald Undone. I can't even find the lenses I want when I come to your page, when I go back and look for the 2nd and 3rd time. Just tell us what you are talking about and we will come (or we won't), and those that stay will keep coming back.
Agree. I am overthinking. The newer videos have the lens name in the first few minutes.
@@markwiemels But I can't search on that. I usually identify the lens when you are handling them in the intro. These Viltrox reviews are going to be referenced repeatedly, but that will be difficult with our a way to easily find them.
Think of it this way, and I don't know how UA-cam monetizes repeat viewers, but I watch reviews a few times as they are referred to me by UA-cam when I am searching. I primarily go to Gordon Lang and Mark Galer for repeat views. I prefer your presentation but have to be satisfied that I will only see it once.
Very helpful. Thank you. I appreciate the transparency.
I did notice the new format, but am not sure it's a good long term strategy, for this type of content and the type of viewers you need as subscribers. I do understand why you had to do it, though.
to be honest, although I don't like the titles, but when I watched half way through, I don't even think the titles are clickbaiting, because your videos are so good. and yes, UA-cam don't promote small channels with great works. Apparently Google doesn't have a good algorithm automatically rating good work, only promoting videos already got huge number of clicks. That's common for all social media, but we have a higher expectation for Google. They should have a better solution, but clearly they don't.
btw when I shared your video "The cheapest AF lens ever", my friends told me that the Yongnuo 50mm f/1.8 for DSLR is even cheaper, and a similar 7artisans 27mm is cheaper, too. That's the moment I feel a little of clickbaiting going on. I really didn't know the TTartisan 27mm wasn't really "the cheapest even" when watching, although I knew Yongnuo 50mm is quite cheap, but I thought Yongnuo no longer making them any more, as it's a DSLR lens.
The TT was the cheapest mirrorless lens, so modern lens, that 50mm is for old DSLR cameras (and it's terrible) The 7Artisans had not been released when I made that video, and I think it's about the same price.
The titles are why i started watching your videos out of all the camera people. Its far more attention grabbing
Kinda crazy that you have to jump though all those hoops to please 'the algorithm'
It’s not fun honestly, but most people have a part of their job that they wish was better. So it’s part of the job.
@@markwiemels Guess you've got to work with what you're dealt (YT with all its ins and outs)
APSC .. yeah nah.. personally, I'm advanced enough but your content is awesome.
Full frame video out tomorrow, have a bunch coming actually.
ALL good points. But with almost 4 million YT videos uploaded each day, moves the question to how to get your titles and thumbnails seen ?
I genuinely enjoy your content.
Thanks
The problem with click bait is they are a lie - this will shock you, this (fill in the blank) is better than anything out there, etc. An the States is a grip of lies, it seems the entire country has been founded on lies. What's the problem with just telling the truth in a catchy but not over hyped way. People who follow vloggers follow them for a reason as they appear to give the straight goods. We all know the game is viewers, likes, and subscribers but the click bait when multiplied by everyone doing it is a downer. I am very active and subscribe to 75 channels but if the hype gets too intense and often, I unsubscribe. Often less is more.
Well Clickbait Titles are good until they are not. Nobody knows exactly when or if that day will come but I hope it comes sooner than later. Personally I don't believe that the ongoing Clickbait Junk should last nor that it will last, especially concerning photography. Each year it will get even harder even for the Best Channels and Clickbait Titles aren't going to save them. In fact, it might be what Blanks Them. Of course those that made out like Bandits before hand could care less. Welcome to Humanity. What's left of it.
Hey, at least you are admitting it and talking about it.
you are a creator, you need clicks that is what all creators, even the ones with million+ subs do. I like the way you make videos and got a view great ideas and tipps from that.
keep it up!
I don't really think the example is clickbait. Clickbait, at least how I see it, is an outright lie or majorly exaggerated title. In your case, it was not. That lens could transform an APS-C camera to get full-frame like results.