U kno when i started getting involved with pokemon, there was no such thing as a "pichu"... not sure y they decided to go back and make him, except for the obvious cash grab...
Fox and falco: their blasters function differently, their up b’s go different distances, and their shines are active in different places Villager and Isabelle: they have different side and down b’s, different nairs, and villager can wall jump (for some reason) Pikachu and pichu: one is busted and the other is *cute af*
I think it’s also important when comparing fair’s, pichu’s hitbox is on his entire body while pikachu’s is only on his head and not his whole body. You can also say the same about Dair
Thinking about it, their differences really make sense. Pikachu is able to control his electricity more easily, but Pichu isn't. Since the latter can't absorb and hold too much at once, he always let's out much more. Pichu is basically Pikachu before he put limiters on himself. Due to this, Pichu has more electricity in attacks (therefore he's much stronger), but damages himself in the process.
One thing I like to point out is that Pikachu and Pichu's UpBs are based off entirely different moves from their original contexts and thus are named differently. Pikachu's UpB is "Quick Attack", while Pichu's UpB is "Agility".
I mean yes I know. With Marth you get more of a risk reward factor. Also, if you get the marth combos setups and grind, HE IS BUSTED. He can kill you from zero and and stuff. His dancing blade is also amazing if mastered
Basically: -some moves are different - pichu is smaller - pichu damages itself - pichu is lighter - pichu has stronger moves - pichu is just better then pikachu Fite me
As a Pikachu main, there are a TON of noticeable differences when playing between the two. Pikachu has much more combo capability, while also having more BS juggles. Pikachu's up throw down special combo is easier to pull off vs Pichu's, due to the fact that Pikachu's is slightly slower, but doesn't affect the actual combo. I have also noticed that Pichu gets Pineappled with his side special more than Pikachu's, maybe that's just bad luck, I dunno. For aerials, Pichu's fair and dair are easier to hit, and do more damage, but Pikachu's fair is easier to combo over and over again for a cheeky thirty percent. Pikachu has a MUCH better nair, Pichu's doesn't do as much damage, is a single hit, and looks worse. (Not that that affects the gameplay, just sayin.) It works for Pichu, only because of the self damaging. He needs a few moves that don't kill him slowly. I find Pikachu easier to play as, more consistent, and better in the combo department. Pichu kills much earlier, has slightly more powerful and fast specials, or any electric attack, actually, and is harder to play against. If I had to pick, well, like I said, I'm a Pikachu main, so Pikachu, but Pichu is no slouch. If you want to main one of them, here is my input. You like powerful attacks, while still being a quick character? Pichu is for you. You like characters that are good all around, plus a nasty combo game, but not Mario since he's too generic for you? Pikachu.
Nice, thanks! In terms of frame delay between the moment you input an attack and it's effective against the enemy, is there a particularly noticeable difference, if I may ask?
Dude you’re seriously underrating Pichu’s combo game. He literally has backair dragdown loops that can rack up like 90 percent??? Busted. And downthrow, Downtilt, uptilt, and nair are all insane combo starters. Stop beating up on my child.
When it comes to characters that carry over a lot of traits from another, I feel whoever or not they get a "pass" on it depends entirely on the character. For this reason, I'm actually cool with Pichu having plenty taken from Pikachu because, well, it kinda makes sense since Pichu is literally just a baby Pikachu. It's when you get cases like Ganondorf that I draw the line because for one, Ganondorf is the main villain of Zelda and secondly, what does he even have in common with Captain Falcon? Pretty much nothing other than them being Nintendo characters. Plus, if you've played any Zelda game with Ganondorf as the main villain, you'd know just how much the man has to offer in terms of a unique moveset. Pichu though? Nah, I'm cool with it, sure it would be nice to see him get his own moveset but as he is? It's fine.
Ganondorf was barely put into melee, the only reason he made it was because his proportions were similar to captain falcon, so they copied his moves onto Ganondorf.
I’d love to see a series where someone takes 2 similar characters and gives them points depending on whose move is better. Like a point for whoever has the better Forward Smash, Up Air and so on
@@Cream12345Ice Pichu is good but not like top tier like people used to think because the nerfs did quite a bit. Pikachu has always been considered to be a top tier with quite a number of people saying that Pikachu could be the best character in the game (which could be the second time that Pikachu is the best character in the game)
if Pichu wasn't as light as he would then he would have no problem being top 5 plus they nerf him mainly his side tilt it use to be plus and breaks sheild in 3 hits and his health
It would be cool to make Raichu the same as Pichu and Pikachu, only with even more devastatinly powerful hits, being a heavy this time around, and making a light, (Pichu) an all around, (Pikachu) and a heavy, (Raichu).
It's weird, because on paper they sound super similar but you play them completely different. I like both, I'm better with Pikachu but Pichu's aggressive, all or nothing, rage playstyle is fun, like a tiny Lucario that can give itself aura.
I feel like they made sure that previous clones that might've been considered Echo fighters (clones from 64, Melee, and Brawl) were differentiated enough to not be Echoes
even some Echo fighters like Ken, Dark Pit, and Chrom (and arguably Lucina) can easily be considered their own characters seeing as how different they are from the original fighters
@@hulkinglasses7174 Chrom and Ken are identical, so they should. Lucina, I don't really know, but I know their only difference is Marth's Tipper efdect, which Lucina doesn't have
@@Shiny_Rayz Ken is completely different to Ryu tho... do you even play smash? Chrom has a different up special than Roy and Chrom's moves are all balanced. Meaning Chrom doesn't get extra damage for being closer but he doesn't lose damage or knock back for being farther away. The same applies to Lucina as all of her moves are balanced as well.
@@calebalderete1 Basically that was the patch that greatly nerfed Pichu, an example is Pichu's F-Tilt. It used to be quick and killed at (I think) 110%. But after patch 3.1.0 Pichu's F-Tilt did more damage to himself and didn't even kill at 160%.
6:38 I agree honestly all the characters you have talked about so far in this series use the same final smash and I think the following final smash should be these Young Link: Deity Link where it’s would do the same but the lightning and triforces could be light blue and I think it would be appropriate if young link kept the Ocarina of time final smash since the last hit of the move is a reference to Oot Toon Link: it took me a few minutes to think since he has a lot of special moves especially from Hyrule warriors technically but I think the Hurricane spin is a good idea, using this final smash would have Toon Link charging for a second then start spinning around and you can control this final smash but you cannot fall of the stage or get pushed by let’s say Mario’s fludd with it the final smash would last about 6 seconds before toon link slowly stops spinning and does that dizzy thing from wind waker for a few seconds before returning to normal, don’t worry Toon Link will be invincible during the dizzy part Pikachu: the libre, the two Z moves and the Gigatmax move are all really good choices and I’m gonna use the 10000000 volt thunder bolt and Pikachu would be sent to the middle of the stage and it would start doing that dance for the move to activate and then Pikachu would jump in the middle of the air the start 24 thunder bolts and 6 at a time around the stage and any opponent that gets hit by it in the air gets meteor smashed oh and also the trainer could be Elio or Selene (forgive me if I’m saying it wrong it’s been a while since I touched sun and moon.) then Pikachu would just back flip to the center the stage Pichu: yeah Pichu could just use the same thing he uses in smash it makes sense and if you would like a different idea he could use the Electric Z move and just shoot a big electric shock in front of him and go a little bit farther then samus’s but it just one big thunder bolt and wouldn’t be used exactly like Samus’s. Dr. Mario: like in his games could throw 3 big pills up then they would come crashing straight down and it’s a better reference honestly Mario: god what hasn’t mr. Nintendo mascot been doing since brawl there are so many choices but I thought of this idea when I thought everyone was getter a better looking final smash before I knew a lot characters are gonna have the same once just used in the same motion as before, Mario would grab cappy and throw him forwards and only one opponent can get caught by cappy and it 65 damage for the final smash ball and 45 for the final smash meter and if the opponent is at 100 percent they would be automatically K.O. them like Zelda’s final smash. If I can think of any other idea for the other semi clone or clone characters I’ll edit this comment and these are just my opinions on what the final smashes could’ve been so take them with a grain of salt please Thanks for reading!
I just have to ask about why would the final smashes deal different damage depending on the smash orb or smash meter? Are there final smashes that do that?
Please show the differences between the _official_ echo fighters as well! From all the videos I've seen on UA-cam that touches this subject, yours are the most informative and actually interesting ones. :)
Ness and lucas are the same but the opposite at the same time (if you look at Ness' moves,Lucas' moves work in the exact opposite way,for example multi-hits and 1 hits)
This is such a cool video, I've always wondered about the differences between these characters and why they aren't echo fighters. Great watch. Also I like Pikachu because he's the closest I can get to Raichu being in smash, which I know will happen one day
IM not going to delve too into it, but I like Pichu for the sole purpose of the "high-risk high reward" aspect. I think the self-damage while being a bad trait to have, makes Pichu more unique, and its balance pretty well with the damage output. Also, i also feel like Pichu's down air is easier to spike with. I don't know if that's a fact(with the hitboxes and stuff), but i definitely feel more comfortable with Pichu
An obvious difference is that Pichu is faster and has stronger moves but takes damage with his thunder moves because he is still learning how to use them.
The difference between pikachu and pichu One bigger other smaller One fatter other thinner One stronger other weaker One takes damage doing attacked other doesn’t
@@plapin3538 I consider it balance between the damage it takes for extra effect. And technically lore wise, Pichu cannot use its power properly, causing it give too much. Like how a baby rattlesnake is more dangerous than a normal rattlesnake cause the baby will keep on giving you venom for as long as it can while the adult will give you set amount you need to leave it alone. IDK, just rambling at this point
Both are great. I use Pikachu very often when I play Smash, because some of the moves can combo well. With Pichu, he is more like a close range of the two.
InProgressPokemon created Piachu, who could become a balanced version between these two characters if Piachu were to be existent, canon, and then playable in Smash Bros.
If I recall, Pichu's Thunder won't hurt him if the attack is obstructed by a platform or done going forward or backwards while mobile. Only when the attack's lightning bolt makes impact on Pichu, will he deal damage to himself.
(2:24) Sight nitpick. Pikachu does 15.7%, and Pichu does 16.8% with 1.5% self damage, meaning the net gain is 15.3% only. In this way, Pikachu has a higher damage net gain.
Now if they release an echo fighters pass we could get Raichu, so that way we would have Pichu, Pikachu, Raichu, and Alolan Raichu all in the same game.
Pikachu is supposed to be faster than Pichu. Sakurai did surprisingly well at giving each Pokemon proper speeds as compared to eachother. I say suprisingly because Mewtwos weight is completely wrong. Mewtwo should be one of the heaviest characters in the game over Charizard and Incineroar and he isn't for whatever reason.
Alex.EXE Another difference is that Pikachu Movements Ground Speed: B-(18) Air speed:D (60) Falling speed:C(44-47) Weight: F+ (67-69) Pichu Movements Ground Speed: B+(11) Air speed:C(45-47) Falling speed:A(5) Weight:F-(76) Fun fact:Pichu is the lightweight character in the game.
I still think that it'd be very appropriate for this series if you did a Marth vs. Roy video. To anyone with even an ounce of time/research put into both of them, they're rightfully two completely different characters, but on the very surface or just to anyone that thinks the FE characters are a Pandora's Box they don't want to open, they basically have identical movesets.
I very much prefer and main pichu because his weaker moves, combined with his more vertical knockback, give him a far superior combo game. Plus, his faster falling speed alone makes him feel a lot faster
even though i'm aware of all their differences now and that their down airs can meteor smash, i sometimes use the down special instead if the opponent is at the right amount of height above me
Not sure if this was mentioned before but....you forgot to mention that pichu only hurts himself with his down special if the thunder hits him (meaning that if the thunder misses pichu, pichu doesn't hurt himself)
The main difference is that Pichu commits suicide in almost every stamina battle
Pikachu: winning is fun!
Pichu: suicide is badass!
That is correct
PichAAAAAAAAAAAAAHGH
Ah yes my favorite Pokémon: pichuka
Wrong pichu can't kill itself in stamina it can only self harm
One dosent have it's own movie with Ryan Reynolds voicing it.
Very accurate
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Not yet
It is own movie
Its pichu
Always asked this question myself and the answer is yes.
- "What's the Difference?"
- "Yes"
lol! Just teasing, I get what you meant :P
@@AlexEXE Pichu has some moves without electricity, but they still damage pichu
@@asura3695 By name or effect, that bothers me so much
@@Shiny_Rayz yes
@UCdye6n52L3wNDiWPz5sVHeQ did u delete ur comment
One has a "ka" and the other one doesn't
Raichu: *Profusely Sweating*
And one of them doesn’t kill themselves when they attack.
That's about it
And in stamina mode pichu can electrocute themselves to death
#thunderisbrutalinstamina
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Pikachu is the evolved form of Pichu. That is the difference.
Everyone knows that lol
@@larsoncaluscusao1425 woooosh
Technically correct
U kno when i started getting involved with pokemon, there was no such thing as a "pichu"... not sure y they decided to go back and make him, except for the obvious cash grab...
@@kyleferguson4236 ok boomer if they stopped making more Pokémon it would've been dead rn.
Fox and falco: their blasters function differently, their up b’s go different distances, and their shines are active in different places
Villager and Isabelle: they have different side and down b’s, different nairs, and villager can wall jump (for some reason)
Pikachu and pichu: one is busted and the other is *cute af*
Pichu and pichu?
@@m1lkymochi9 There is only pichu
No no, both are S tier. Pikachu is better at performing combos but Pichu is better at stalling opponents with it’s precious eyes
Falcos arials are also different to foxes
Pichu is more powerful that Pikachu 😂
Easy: Pichu is small boom video over
Pikachu is actually smaller than Pichu in Smash
@@JulianLopez-oc7zz shut the the f word up
Julian Lopez That’s actually really weird. I guess pichu is just sorta chubby.
I think because he has a Funko Pop head
I accidentally a word
I think it’s also important when comparing fair’s, pichu’s hitbox is on his entire body while pikachu’s is only on his head and not his whole body. You can also say the same about Dair
Yup, that's why he said dair was easier to land
pichu dair also has more active spike frames
Who's Dair?
@@andco53 The down air. ;)
@@andco53 Oh! ok! Funny! ;)
6:52 "Personally, I prefer -the air- Pichu"
@NovaUltimatum falco reference
@@Spiitz from brawl
One of them is Sepiroth's new best friend, while the other is not.
Yes, but both are cute
Thinking about it, their differences really make sense. Pikachu is able to control his electricity more easily, but Pichu isn't. Since the latter can't absorb and hold too much at once, he always let's out much more. Pichu is basically Pikachu before he put limiters on himself. Due to this, Pichu has more electricity in attacks (therefore he's much stronger), but damages himself in the process.
except he isnt really that much stronger
@@OVXX666 The difference is worth it, if you never get hit pichu is better because he is a glass cannon
One doesn’t have their own surprised meme.
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@@srihithgangireddygari4010 Don't.
One thing I like to point out is that Pikachu and Pichu's UpBs are based off entirely different moves from their original contexts and thus are named differently. Pikachu's UpB is "Quick Attack", while Pichu's UpB is "Agility".
In all truths, they are identical.
But still pichu damages himself despite being physic type move (I think)
@@eldridgelootiancimoe2302 Quick attack(pikachus one) is normal type but agility is psychic type
Pichu is the best because he has a Team Skull hat and Pikachu doesn't.
Nice profile pic
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Personally I like Pikachu more because to me it's easier to combo. He was also my main once. But now it's Marth
Lucina is better though
I mean yes I know. With Marth you get more of a risk reward factor. Also, if you get the marth combos setups and grind, HE IS BUSTED. He can kill you from zero and and stuff. His dancing blade is also amazing if mastered
you change pika for marth? pika is top and mar is hi tier lol
@@trollwist8867 I mailed him Before ultimate was a thing my guy
@@anonymousasian589 ok, but you decrease your tier (not your gameplay)
doesn't Pichu's Thunder go through soft platforms while Pikachu's doesn't?
Devan Archer no. Pikachus thunder goes through soft platforms
@@Eman02kG oof, I misheard then lol
If someone is above the platform then it won't go under, also if you hit pika it will also stop it.
I have an idea: GO read the tips of Smash.
as a pikachu main it depends, It can go through but sometimes it doesn't
You forgot the biggest difference between the two:
Pichu is slightly cuter.
Oswego Carters' no he’s a lot cuter lol
Not even slightly
Pikachu is much cuter
@@TerriermonKnightmare hey hey hey
Delete this right away.
No, pikachu is the cutest
Thanks, I was literally wondering their differences yesterday, this help me and saved me so much time so thank you!
Basically:
-some moves are different
- pichu is smaller
- pichu damages itself
- pichu is lighter
- pichu has stronger moves
- pichu is just better then pikachu
Fite me
Pikachu is better after the Pichu nerfs
Not relevant
Nerfs makes a character better or worse
Pika can nair loop
Pichu can do it in their own way
As a Pikachu main, there are a TON of noticeable differences when playing between the two. Pikachu has much more combo capability, while also having more BS juggles. Pikachu's up throw down special combo is easier to pull off vs Pichu's, due to the fact that Pikachu's is slightly slower, but doesn't affect the actual combo. I have also noticed that Pichu gets Pineappled with his side special more than Pikachu's, maybe that's just bad luck, I dunno. For aerials, Pichu's fair and dair are easier to hit, and do more damage, but Pikachu's fair is easier to combo over and over again for a cheeky thirty percent. Pikachu has a MUCH better nair, Pichu's doesn't do as much damage, is a single hit, and looks worse. (Not that that affects the gameplay, just sayin.) It works for Pichu, only because of the self damaging. He needs a few moves that don't kill him slowly. I find Pikachu easier to play as, more consistent, and better in the combo department. Pichu kills much earlier, has slightly more powerful and fast specials, or any electric attack, actually, and is harder to play against. If I had to pick, well, like I said, I'm a Pikachu main, so Pikachu, but Pichu is no slouch. If you want to main one of them, here is my input. You like powerful attacks, while still being a quick character? Pichu is for you. You like characters that are good all around, plus a nasty combo game, but not Mario since he's too generic for you? Pikachu.
Nice, thanks! In terms of frame delay between the moment you input an attack and it's effective against the enemy, is there a particularly noticeable difference, if I may ask?
Dude you’re seriously underrating Pichu’s combo game. He literally has backair dragdown loops that can rack up like 90 percent??? Busted. And downthrow, Downtilt, uptilt, and nair are all insane combo starters. Stop beating up on my child.
@@ohayogosaimas2286 Pika and Pichu both have insane frame data, don’t worry about it.
@@moonwatchereclipse5291 pikachu literally has Nair loops lol
Bro wrote a whole essay 💀
I want to Raichu for smash, for complete picachu family
He is in the game he appears from pokeballs
@@Iibraryofruina Yeah but they mean a character rep, i hope alolan raichu gets added because then they can make a more unique moveset
When it comes to characters that carry over a lot of traits from another, I feel whoever or not they get a "pass" on it depends entirely on the character. For this reason, I'm actually cool with Pichu having plenty taken from Pikachu because, well, it kinda makes sense since Pichu is literally just a baby Pikachu. It's when you get cases like Ganondorf that I draw the line because for one, Ganondorf is the main villain of Zelda and secondly, what does he even have in common with Captain Falcon? Pretty much nothing other than them being Nintendo characters. Plus, if you've played any Zelda game with Ganondorf as the main villain, you'd know just how much the man has to offer in terms of a unique moveset.
Pichu though? Nah, I'm cool with it, sure it would be nice to see him get his own moveset but as he is? It's fine.
I’m not going to read this
Ganondorf was barely put into melee, the only reason he made it was because his proportions were similar to captain falcon, so they copied his moves onto Ganondorf.
@@MasterLYT Ganondorf really should’ve been delayed to Brawl and Sonic really should’ve been delayed to Smash 4
I’d love to see a series where someone takes 2 similar characters and gives them points depending on whose move is better. Like a point for whoever has the better Forward Smash, Up Air and so on
There are so many
There really are!
@@AlexEXE Otherwise it's very interesting ;) (I find Pichu's neutral B nice in the air)
And many more not mentioned in this video, not at the creator’s fault through because he doesn’t main them
@@KakinTseGamePlayer And he said he wasnt getting into the more tedious stuff
What is the difference between Peach and Daisy:
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Lol, they removed the only difference they had. The turnips
One is a fruit and one is a flower
Hitboxes
JacquelineJack smart
Hitboxes
You expect to a pre-evolution to be weaker then the evolution? Cute.
That aged, interestingly
@@deleted5745 I mean pichu is still a good character just not like top 5
@@Cream12345Ice Pichu is good but not like top tier like people used to think because the nerfs did quite a bit. Pikachu has always been considered to be a top tier with quite a number of people saying that Pikachu could be the best character in the game (which could be the second time that Pikachu is the best character in the game)
Michael I’m a Pikachu main and I think more people would play him if he wasn’t so hard to pick up
Imeeeeeean he is
Can you do ness vs. Sans? I can't tell the difference thanks
Mr.DankeyClod _ Ness is Alive, and Sans is the Undead version of Ness
Ness is a kid and snake is a Adult
Damn you matpat
One spams PK Fire and one spams Gaster Blaster
@@hieunguyenhong2898 what snake its sans
I still can't believe that Pichu had a valid argument for being the best character when the game came out
if Pichu wasn't as light as he would then he would have no problem being top 5 plus they nerf him mainly his side tilt it use to be plus and breaks sheild in 3 hits and his health
Funny nerf went brrrrr
'Pikachu too
It took 5 freakin games for Raichu to finally appear in Super Smash Bros and its not even the original incarnation but the Alolan variety
Sjono I mean the original would just be repetitive
CAPmania64
How would it be repetitive
It would be cool to make Raichu the same as Pichu and Pikachu, only with even more devastatinly powerful hits, being a heavy this time around, and making a light, (Pichu) an all around, (Pikachu) and a heavy, (Raichu).
@@KittyChikin And make him the alolan variant so you can add psychic type moves
It's weird, because on paper they sound super similar but you play them completely different. I like both, I'm better with Pikachu but Pichu's aggressive, all or nothing, rage playstyle is fun, like a tiny Lucario that can give itself aura.
I feel like they made sure that previous clones that might've been considered Echo fighters (clones from 64, Melee, and Brawl) were differentiated enough to not be Echoes
even some Echo fighters like Ken, Dark Pit, and Chrom (and arguably Lucina) can easily be considered their own characters seeing as how different they are from the original fighters
@@hulkinglasses7174 I'm meant they tried to make sure the clones that aren't classified as Echoes are even more different than the Echoes are.
Devan Archer except they made some characters who shouldn’t be considered Echos, echos. Like Dark Pit, Ken, Chrom
@@hulkinglasses7174 Chrom and Ken are identical, so they should. Lucina, I don't really know, but I know their only difference is Marth's Tipper efdect, which Lucina doesn't have
@@Shiny_Rayz Ken is completely different to Ryu tho... do you even play smash? Chrom has a different up special than Roy and Chrom's moves are all balanced. Meaning Chrom doesn't get extra damage for being closer but he doesn't lose damage or knock back for being farther away. The same applies to Lucina as all of her moves are balanced as well.
One deals damage to itself and the other one dosen't.
Pichu was my main before the "incident"
We Pichu mains don’t talk of the “Dark Age”
What happened? Pichu is my side character, and I need to know!
@@calebalderete1 Patch 3.1.0
UltraMapping 07 Ok, but what happened?
@@calebalderete1 Basically that was the patch that greatly nerfed Pichu, an example is Pichu's F-Tilt. It used to be quick and killed at (I think) 110%. But after patch 3.1.0 Pichu's F-Tilt did more damage to himself and didn't even kill at 160%.
Pichu is tiny Pikachu except Pichu electrocutes itself whenever it does anything
I appreciate that alex is a more casual smash youtuber ( from what I see anyway) it's a nice change just for some fun not tedious combo content
6:38 I agree honestly all the characters you have talked about so far in this series use the same final smash and I think the following final smash should be these
Young Link: Deity Link where it’s would do the same but the lightning and triforces could be light blue and I think it would be appropriate if young link kept the Ocarina of time final smash since the last hit of the move is a reference to Oot
Toon Link: it took me a few minutes to think since he has a lot of special moves especially from Hyrule warriors technically but I think the Hurricane spin is a good idea, using this final smash would have Toon Link charging for a second then start spinning around and you can control this final smash but you cannot fall of the stage or get pushed by let’s say Mario’s fludd with it the final smash would last about 6 seconds before toon link slowly stops spinning and does that dizzy thing from wind waker for a few seconds before returning to normal, don’t worry Toon Link will be invincible during the dizzy part
Pikachu: the libre, the two Z moves and the Gigatmax move are all really good choices and I’m gonna use the 10000000 volt thunder bolt and Pikachu would be sent to the middle of the stage and it would start doing that dance for the move to activate and then Pikachu would jump in the middle of the air the start 24 thunder bolts and 6 at a time around the stage and any opponent that gets hit by it in the air gets meteor smashed oh and also the trainer could be Elio or Selene (forgive me if I’m saying it wrong it’s been a while since I touched sun and moon.) then Pikachu would just back flip to the center the stage
Pichu: yeah Pichu could just use the same thing he uses in smash it makes sense and if you would like a different idea he could use the Electric Z move and just shoot a big electric shock in front of him and go a little bit farther then samus’s but it just one big thunder bolt and wouldn’t be used exactly like Samus’s.
Dr. Mario: like in his games could throw 3 big pills up then they would come crashing straight down and it’s a better reference honestly
Mario: god what hasn’t mr. Nintendo mascot been doing since brawl there are so many choices but I thought of this idea when I thought everyone was getter a better looking final smash before I knew a lot characters are gonna have the same once just used in the same motion as before, Mario would grab cappy and throw him forwards and only one opponent can get caught by cappy and it 65 damage for the final smash ball and 45 for the final smash meter and if the opponent is at 100 percent they would be automatically K.O. them like Zelda’s final smash.
If I can think of any other idea for the other semi clone or clone characters I’ll edit this comment and these are just my opinions on what the final smashes could’ve been so take them with a grain of salt please
Thanks for reading!
I just have to ask about why would the final smashes deal different damage depending on the smash orb or smash meter? Are there final smashes that do that?
Pichu's ftilt puts them in a tech situation
Pichu is my favourite Pokémon!
I thought he was weaker but now I know he’s stronge!
Hopefully I get smash ultimate soon!
Now i figured it out about both of them. Thanks Alex!
What’s the different between fox and falcon.(SSBU)
Fox is a starfox character and captain falcon is a f zero character
Please show the differences between the _official_ echo fighters as well!
From all the videos I've seen on UA-cam that touches this subject, yours are the most informative and actually interesting ones. :)
I prefer Pikachu over Pichu, and btw I love your Z-Move Final Smash idea a LOT.
PICHU WARRIORS
Lol everyone has their opinion.
Dont you mean the difference between the yellow paper shaped like a mouse and the yellow paper shaped like a mouse but this time it hurts itself
Who realizes Pichu smile after performing an Aerial and falling down?
Pikachu too with bair
Ness and lucas are the same but the opposite at the same time (if you look at Ness' moves,Lucas' moves work in the exact opposite way,for example multi-hits and 1 hits)
One thing : Pichu is cute
One other thing : pikachu is fat
Pichu is cuter and that makes him better
Of course guys
This is such a cool video, I've always wondered about the differences between these characters and why they aren't echo fighters. Great watch. Also I like Pikachu because he's the closest I can get to Raichu being in smash, which I know will happen one day
I prefer Pichu
So I haven't watched the video yet, but the answer is simple. Pichu is the bestest cutest lil man, while Pikachu is the boring mascot! Duuuuuuuh.
*Love him or hate him, he is spitting facts*
Pichu is cuter.
Thats right tails
Lol mario gets bullied like crazy in each summary video
What’s the difference between captain falcon and ganondorf
Alot of things
Wait... I thought they were the same character!
Anonymous Trash Ganon has a Sword now!
Pichu's recoil is a trade-off for being slightly stronger
Pikachu has a westler alt that makes her adorable.
Pikachu is a boy. >:(
@@pikachuwolf6812 Not the wrestler.
you are right :(
That is a different pikachu and it is a girl
That is pikachu libre best of the cosplay
IM not going to delve too into it, but I like Pichu for the sole purpose of the "high-risk high reward" aspect. I think the self-damage while being a bad trait to have, makes Pichu more unique, and its balance pretty well with the damage output. Also, i also feel like Pichu's down air is easier to spike with. I don't know if that's a fact(with the hitboxes and stuff), but i definitely feel more comfortable with Pichu
Actually on one of your videos I think it was the toon and young link difference i said if you can do Pichu and Pikachu
An obvious difference is that Pichu is faster and has stronger moves but takes damage with his thunder moves because he is still learning how to use them.
Oh, my bad. Pichu is faster in Super Smash Flash 2.
The difference between pikachu and pichu
One bigger other smaller
One fatter other thinner
One stronger other weaker
One takes damage doing attacked other doesn’t
Ironically, pichu’s attacks are stronger. It.. doesn’t make sense.
@@plapin3538 I consider it balance between the damage it takes for extra effect. And technically lore wise, Pichu cannot use its power properly, causing it give too much. Like how a baby rattlesnake is more dangerous than a normal rattlesnake cause the baby will keep on giving you venom for as long as it can while the adult will give you set amount you need to leave it alone. IDK, just rambling at this point
Characters like Pichu and Pikachu deserve to be S-Tier just because of how technical and high risk they are.
Next up: differences between Fox, Falco and Wolf.
Ben Huang
They’re so different that wouldn’t even work as a video
@Ben Huang I think just wolf and fox, they are pretty much the same
Wolf's neutral B is more spammable
Ok just a note
Pichu’s Up Special send farther but Pikachu has a better horizontal recovery because of Side Special
Ok thanks, see ya
You forgot about pikachu’s up air having like 3 or 4 different hit boxes in different areas.
Pichu in Ultimate could have borrowed Pikachu's custom-moves from Smash 4.
I mean… Pichu can have a flower on his ear, and Pikachu doesn’t, so automatically Pichu wins right??
No
Dang ok
I think it is an apple blossom tbh, and yes
Gannon and Captian Falcon
Ness and Lucas
Fox and Falco ( maybe wolf )
Isabelle and Villiger
That's what came to my mind
Pikachu more faster than Pichu??!! DAFAK
Pichu’s thunder only hurts him if it makes contact with him however it will do less damage.
This is basically, “you want vanilla or chocolate” there moves look almost the same but they taste different.
Pichu forward tilt can trip if opponent hasn’t taken much damage
You forgot about the grab pummel and throws
He says the grabs are almost the same while the pummels are like .1% difference
Both are great. I use Pikachu very often when I play Smash, because some of the moves can combo well. With Pichu, he is more like a close range of the two.
Pikachu for stamina and pichu for timed and stock
I’m a Pichu main but Pikachu’s lack of self damage is nice
In other news we had to wait nearly 20 years for Raichu to even make an appearance in Super Smash Bros
InProgressPokemon created Piachu, who could become a balanced version between these two characters if Piachu were to be existent, canon, and then playable in Smash Bros.
They Should've put Raichu in it instead of Pichu
If I recall, Pichu's Thunder won't hurt him if the attack is obstructed by a platform or done going forward or backwards while mobile. Only when the attack's lightning bolt makes impact on Pichu, will he deal damage to himself.
Melee Pikachu Nair < Pichu Nair < Melee Pichu Nair < Pikachu Nair
I already knew why Pikachu and Pichu weren't Echo fighters, but what I don't know is WHY ARE RYU AND KEN ECHOS!?
Fox and Falco? Ness and Lucas? Villager and Isabelle? There’s a lot of potential for this series.
fox and falco aren't echos they are entirely different (so is pika and pichu but those two at least have the same tilts, specials)
(2:24) Sight nitpick. Pikachu does 15.7%, and Pichu does 16.8% with 1.5% self damage, meaning the net gain is 15.3% only. In this way, Pikachu has a higher damage net gain.
They should've called Pichu's side B Wild Charge. Not only is it an actual Electric-Type move, it also does recoil in the main Pokémon games.
I don’t see why they didn’t put raichu in the game to so we can play all the evolutions
Finally, One of my favourite UA-camr makes a video about my Main. (Pikachu)
Now if they release an echo fighters pass we could get Raichu, so that way we would have Pichu, Pikachu, Raichu, and Alolan Raichu all in the same game.
Pikachu is supposed to be faster than Pichu. Sakurai did surprisingly well at giving each Pokemon proper speeds as compared to eachother.
I say suprisingly because Mewtwos weight is completely wrong. Mewtwo should be one of the heaviest characters in the game over Charizard and Incineroar and he isn't for whatever reason.
Elesa Brooks probably cuz a heavy with a good recovery would be broken or something but yeah I 100% agree with u
Mewtwo floats.
Ben Huang so does samus
Alex.EXE Another difference is that
Pikachu Movements Ground Speed: B-(18) Air speed:D (60) Falling speed:C(44-47) Weight: F+ (67-69)
Pichu Movements
Ground Speed: B+(11)
Air speed:C(45-47)
Falling speed:A(5)
Weight:F-(76)
Fun fact:Pichu is the lightweight character in the game.
Pichu’s f-tilt also trips at low percents
I still think that it'd be very appropriate for this series if you did a Marth vs. Roy video.
To anyone with even an ounce of time/research put into both of them, they're rightfully two completely different characters, but on the very surface or just to anyone that thinks the FE characters are a Pandora's Box they don't want to open, they basically have identical movesets.
He did it now
At low percents Pichu’s forward tilt always trips the opponent
*jab lock intensifies*
*Jab Lock Chase Intensifies*
I very much prefer and main pichu because his weaker moves, combined with his more vertical knockback, give him a far superior combo game. Plus, his faster falling speed alone makes him feel a lot faster
yea
A perfect prank for what’s the difference in April’s fools day is what’s the difference with (insert any echo fighter here) and there you go
Ken actually has differences but he could do like olimar and alph or bowser jr and the rest of the koopalings
Thank you so much for doing this video!!!
And he also has his own game so that's pretty cool
even though i'm aware of all their differences now and that their down airs can meteor smash, i sometimes use the down special instead if the opponent is at the right amount of height above me
I wish raichu was in smash so we would have a full pika family
Not sure if this was mentioned before but....you forgot to mention that pichu only hurts himself with his down special if the thunder hits him (meaning that if the thunder misses pichu, pichu doesn't hurt himself)
Pikachu is a plug in a socket.
Pichu is a toaster bath.
Pichu is my 7 most used character (Pikachu isn’t in my 6 most used)
And I managed to get a higher distance with pichu than pikachu in home run contest