Zach Ryder sort of but tbh thinking about it it’s not even Batman’s responsibility to kill the joker. He’s just a crazy guy he stops sometimes technically.
Zach Ryder Jason is 100% right. Killing one enemy, the worst of the worst, saving a lot of lives later on, isn’t the same as, well, becoming the Red Hood.
@Harry The Grey Jedi The problem here ias that Batman does aknowledge this possibility, but he doesn't trust himself in being able to stop. He doesn't want to kill because he knows he wont be able to stop after making an exception once. It's not that he is against the Idea, or think that others should follow his ideals(othewise he would have arrested many anti-heroes ages ago, including the Huntress). It's just his own conviction.
@@bloody4558 so pretty much joker win either way. Batman kill, joker is right, batman don't kill joker, joker get to continued killing with it batman fault and accessory to murder I think
In Hush, Jim said he won't let him be a murderer. Even if Batman didn't kill anyone by that point, it's kind of hard NOT to kill ANYONE. Since Batman IS a guy who fight murderers.
Except the majority of these examples are either before the "Do not Kill" code was created (which is a relatively new creation given how long Batman has existed) Or specifically in an esleworlds story with different rules
Correct. In fact some of these aren't even true either, ie Batman toppling cars on someone is wrong (the criminal toppled the cars himself by shooting at them), the two thugs he killed in the garbage disposal were on complete accident (he even tried to save them after), and Batman revealed he had changed his mind on leaving KGBeast to his death a mere 20 issues after he supposedly killed him. The only valid example is Batman trying to kill Darkseid, which as is noted in the video, he didn't actually succeed at.
@@ND001X wow really. Guess i shouldn't trust my usual source. In any case this still wouldn't count as breaking his rule as he had no choice in it. But thank you for that conformation
What people do not understand about the Nolan trilogy is that it doesn't have to be exactly the same as the comics. In the comics the general philosophy of Batman is not to kill. In the movie Bruce Wayne never says he will not kill, he says he is not an executioner, a murderer. Harvey Dent and Talia die because Batman can not avoid it, because he chooses the life of others. And when it comes to Ra's al Ghul, as he says, he doesn't have to save him, since Ras is directly responsible for his own death. When Batman throws the Joker, he has to save him, or he would otherwise become a murderer. That is the difference.
Exactly this. And this "moral version" of Batman is the one that I choose to apply to all other Batman's out there. The simple line of "'I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" fits perfectly into Batman's line of thinking.
This list isn't accurate. Batman's stance is to not kill those who are mortal abed can be redeemed. Darkseid isn't redeemable. Keep in mind The DKM event with Barbatos. They actively tried to kill it.
@@Oxcarthor26 White Knight. Besides that, Joker is a human...in the most basic sense. One life, one soul, limited time. Darkseid is not, parademons are similar to Joker but cannot be redeemed.
I think they're counting it because Bats had every intention of killing him, and the wound would have killed him if someone else hadn't finished him first.
@@abebuckingham8198 The title says he "broke his rule and killed". It's a list of times he not only broke his rule, but he also killed, which he didn't in this instance.
How come nobody ever brings up the part in Batman Returns, where Batman shoves a ticking bomb down a dude's pants, and then pushes him down a hole, followed by the bomb exploding? Watch the scene..He killed that guy.
1. KGBeast was retconned to live. 2. Batman doesn’t kill in the Arkham games they even said so. 3. Batman should NEVER KILL! As someone who grew up watching TAS and other Batman cartoons and read the comics, I, a lot of people, and big UA-camrs like Owenlikescomics agree that Batman should NEVER KILL because it ruins his character. He’s supposed to inspire hope in the innocent and fear in the guilty. If he kills one of those things gets nullified. Plus all those examples are different continuities and aren’t canon when it comes to the current continuity. There.
TAS-This is an animated series, this is non-canon. Or do you think your logan should not kill either, because in cartoons he does not kill. In the original version of kgbeast dies, that says it all. The villains never remain dead and they object. Even in arkham, you can kill the joker thug at the beginning of the asylum, he even nearly killed his batarang there. At origins you can drop criminals from the roof. Batman is not positioned as a hero, it is said in all comics, he killed too many people to be considered a hero. Like logan, some consider him a hero but he is an antihero
@@owenparris7490 Watch the video from the asylum where we first meet the burglar. When the bats go there, he first throws the batarang into the joker, but he managed to dodge. And when the batarang missed him, sparks flew from him colliding with a chain.It is obvious that he could pierce his head. You can also safely throw off origins from roofs. There is a possibility of murder Well, then all star batman and robin canon in our universe, so what?
@@gsv740 Here's the thing about that thug: HE HAD A HEART ATTACK! Did...did you even PLAY the game?! How was that Batman's fault? How could he have WILLINGLY given that man a heart attack? If anything, it's Joker's fault for testing Titan on him. Jeez.
I remember a funny little thing someone wrote before that BvS movie ever came out in which Batman confronted Superman about the Zod neck break. 😡”WE DO NOT BREAK THE NECKS OF VILLAINS! WE’RE HEROES... WE’RE BETTER THAN THAT!............ We just break everything else.”
Originally, Batman's rule was NO GUNS!! Batman only avoided killing in a "worse things than death" kinda way... like killing was too easy or uninspired. Re-watch the 90's animated series & tell me I'm wrong!
I dont think you could add the first year of Batman in here (Batman 1). Since in his first year he carried guns and By 1940's Batman #4, in a story by co-creators Bill Finger and Bob Kane -- which is about as definitive as you can get -- Batman reminds Robin that "we never kill with weapons of any kind."
The Batman body count falls mostly into three categories: 1. 1939-1940. His earliest adventures (even those with Robin) sometimes featured him killing people. The trend was mostly phased out by 1941, the same year that Commissioner Gordon deputized the Caped Crusader. 2. The Mike Barr and Jim Starlin comics of the 1980s. Both writers seemed to prefer a no-kill guideline over a no-kill rule. Barr in particular was a champion of Bill Finger's legacy during that time and justified the cavalier attitude of his Dark Knight by appealing to those 1939-1940 stories noted above. 3. The Warner Bros. movies. Almost all of them, honestly. Maybe not Batman & Robin.
dude the no kill rule came after the silver age as a way to make characters more marketable to kids. Batman used guns from the get go and had no issue with killing scumbags
Batman doesn't kill villains because he knows he's already fucked in the head and something bad could happen if he crossed the line. Batman doesn't kill normal criminals because of what happened to his parents. He knows criminals have families too
It was later shown after the kg beast storyline that Batman later called the cops to take kg beast in (sorry I dont have a source link). Dont get me wrong, the video is great just a bit flawed.
Well, got some potential deflections, but most of them amount to "He did so by accident" - outside of the Darkseid and early-installment weirdness examples, of course.
The golden age version of batman did not have the no killing rule, the silver age of comics came around because a code came in place that made it illegal to have killing in comics (this is when the Joker got all of his prankster gear), the Bronze Age came around when the no killing rule was lifted and batman kept the rule. The 1980's batman film was based on the golden age version of batman so is the batman in batman vs superman. Because the golden age batman did not have the no killing rule I think most of these should not be on this list. I also think that Darkseid should not be on this list because the true darkseid was never killed, Darkseid is a god that makes copy's of himself but less powerful which he uses to take over worlds (if the real Darkseid left his universe to enter another, the universe he enters will end instantly just because of his presence their).
He was still alive in the pre-Flashpoint continuity as well. He was one of the inmates patrolling Blackgate Island after the earthquake in No Man's Land.
I am not going to say you are wrong about the one rule, you are half right. There are two parts to his one rule, guns and murder. The rule states that he will not kill with guns.
In the Arkham games, his detective vision clearly says everyone he hit is unconscious. Killing and not saving are two different things, you can’t be arrested for doing nothing 🤣.
Keaton and golden age Batman don't count since they never had no kill rules to start with. Why do so many lists of him breaking his no kill rule count versions that never had one?
I thought it was Batman Beyond that it was discussed (as I recall, someone was correcting Terry). Then again I haven't watched either show in a while so I might just be forgetting the episode you're referring to.
The issue that irritates me about this whole Ghandi-Batman thing is that people (including Bat fans) completely ignore or are unaware of the fact thay his One Rule is really just a cheap trope from the mid-50s that applied to virtually every comic character. Not just him. It was a way of making comics more "kid friendly " and to give writers the conveniant excuse to continuously bring back villains. So why he keeps getting singled out as the one guy in comics with this special trait is beyond me lol
Never let Josh stop saying Dark-Seed. That is the correct way to read it, no matter what DC says. If they wanted it to "side" they should have spelled it differently.
Ras could have saved himself from the train in some way. He is the leader of the leuge of shadows, so if he would have a way out of the train if it would have crashed.
So according to Batman killing people is wrong, but beating people to the point they suffer life-changing injuries like brain damage is ok? Makes sense.
This is only true if you take into account video games, comic Batman's only ever as brutal as situations force him to be (save for special exceptions ie the Joker, Ra's, Darkseid, etc.)
some of these examples are from a time before the whole "I don't kill" thing was introduced So in early Batman and Detective comics he routinely killed the villain, In the Tim Burtonverse he killed all the time there as well since that was Burton's (who wasn't a reader of the comics) vision of how he should act. And IIRC "Son of the Demon" is an Elseworld story where Bruce accepts Ras's way of thinking.Gotta remember there's even a Elseworld book where Batman and Catwoman are criminals and the Joker is a cop tracking them down so don't take what happens in those stories too seriously.
Ra's set himself on his course. Batman's refusual to save him from the consequences of his own actions doesn't count as killing him. Also using examples from before the "no killing rule" was established is kind of cheating. And "Dark-seed" *is* the correct pronunciation.
I do feel like these kinds of lists should be limited more towards modern interpretations of Batman and other heroes since the older stuff is kind of...not good at consistency, if I'm correct
my thing is killing with guns is a no-no in my book. yeah, he's gonna kill a few people along the way. he doesn't want his Robins to be burden with that kind of guilt
You cant could t the movie or his first 10 years he never had that rule then. In the beginning he used a gun all the time. Alternate timelines dont count either
@@CerealKiller2 He killed kgbeast. Almost killed an enigma with a mache. He killed a joker in the endgame at the cost of his life. Not to mention how many times he wanted to finish off the villains but the members of the league and Gordon prevented him
To be fair, of batman didn't really have the same rule, and all star batman was a total fucking prick. Edit: Darkseid HAD to die. There is no containing, imprisoning, or anything short of death that will stop him. Even death is kind iffy.
The Red Hood had a point about Bruce not making an exception about killing The Joker
Zach Ryder sort of but tbh thinking about it it’s not even Batman’s responsibility to kill the joker. He’s just a crazy guy he stops sometimes technically.
He said to Jason that if he ever crossed that line once, he wouldn't be able to stop himself from crossing it again and again.
Zach Ryder Jason is 100% right. Killing one enemy, the worst of the worst, saving a lot of lives later on, isn’t the same as, well, becoming the Red Hood.
@Harry The Grey Jedi The problem here ias that Batman does aknowledge this possibility, but he doesn't trust himself in being able to stop. He doesn't want to kill because he knows he wont be able to stop after making an exception once. It's not that he is against the Idea, or think that others should follow his ideals(othewise he would have arrested many anti-heroes ages ago, including the Huntress). It's just his own conviction.
@@bloody4558 so pretty much joker win either way. Batman kill, joker is right, batman don't kill joker, joker get to continued killing with it batman fault and accessory to murder I think
Remember that time when Batman killed his own franchise with the Bat Credit Card?
Dont leave the cave without it hahaha
OMG Yes! XD
That is a Det. that will never be paid.
All-Star Batman isn't really Batman, but Crazy Steve.
In Hush, Jim said he won't let him be a murderer. Even if Batman didn't kill anyone by that point, it's kind of hard NOT to kill ANYONE. Since Batman IS a guy who fight murderers.
And a human with human emotions of course
Except the majority of these examples are either before the "Do not Kill" code was created (which is a relatively new creation given how long Batman has existed) Or specifically in an esleworlds story with different rules
MisterEEK exactly
But still
Nice list
Correct. In fact some of these aren't even true either, ie Batman toppling cars on someone is wrong (the criminal toppled the cars himself by shooting at them), the two thugs he killed in the garbage disposal were on complete accident (he even tried to save them after), and Batman revealed he had changed his mind on leaving KGBeast to his death a mere 20 issues after he supposedly killed him. The only valid example is Batman trying to kill Darkseid, which as is noted in the video, he didn't actually succeed at.
Batman was more of a try to not kill in the later days.
In his earlier days in comics he killed a lot and even used guns.
Exactly, originally his rule wasn't not to kill, it was not to kill with weapons
Kye Bloom From 1939-1940 Batman has a bigger body count than the Golden Age Superman did.
He broke his rule again in the Titans trailer, killing the Joker and all of his villains rogues gallery.
It was confirmed that its a different universe where batman is doesnt have that rule but just didnt kill before hand
except we all know that could be a dream or a nightmare world created by trigon
Tevya Smolka No, Trigon’s using his power to influence the heroes and villains into killing each other.
we shall see
@@ND001X wow really. Guess i shouldn't trust my usual source. In any case this still wouldn't count as breaking his rule as he had no choice in it. But thank you for that conformation
What people do not understand about the Nolan trilogy is that it doesn't have to be exactly the same as the comics. In the comics the general philosophy of Batman is not to kill. In the movie Bruce Wayne never says he will not kill, he says he is not an executioner, a murderer. Harvey Dent and Talia die because Batman can not avoid it, because he chooses the life of others. And when it comes to Ra's al Ghul, as he says, he doesn't have to save him, since Ras is directly responsible for his own death. When Batman throws the Joker, he has to save him, or he would otherwise become a murderer. That is the difference.
Exactly this. And this "moral version" of Batman is the one that I choose to apply to all other Batman's out there. The simple line of "'I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" fits perfectly into Batman's line of thinking.
Alex Conway well said.
No. In Batman 89 joker went over and Batman roped him. Joker tried what shredder in TMNT did that same year. Joker died. Shredder did too.
Master splinter doesn't kill either and he caught that knife.
@@Ninjajp247 Yeah but no one cares about '89 Batman because Burton doesn't even try to adhere to the no-killing rule.
Remember kids batman "doesn't" kill he will cripple you in a snow storm and tell you the cops are coming .... they aren't tho
Batman : i don't kill
Except when I do
Nothing from All Star Batman & Robin counts as Frank Miller is a psychopath when it comes to writing Batman except for The Dark Knight Returns.
I was cringing looking at the the stills of Black Canary's lines.
you guys did this subject already
I guess you could say this list really killed it.
Bazinga!
Bet you were DYING to say that huh
@@ghostfacefrmscream hey man don't KILL the mood.
After seeing this I have no need to read the rest of the comments.
Too soon, mate.
This list isn't accurate. Batman's stance is to not kill those who are mortal abed can be redeemed. Darkseid isn't redeemable. Keep in mind The DKM event with Barbatos. They actively tried to kill it.
And parademons. Don't forget about those.
Right, because the Joker is so redeemable isn’t he?
@@Oxcarthor26 White Knight. Besides that, Joker is a human...in the most basic sense. One life, one soul, limited time. Darkseid is not, parademons are similar to Joker but cannot be redeemed.
It also counts Keaton and Golden age Batman which never had a no kill rule to start with.
If Darkseid didn't die than how was it murder?
I think they're counting it because Bats had every intention of killing him, and the wound would have killed him if someone else hadn't finished him first.
It's a list of times that he broke his rule and since he explicitly said he was going to break his rule it counts despite the failed attempt.
@@abebuckingham8198 The title says he "broke his rule and killed". It's a list of times he not only broke his rule, but he also killed, which he didn't in this instance.
How come nobody ever brings up the part in Batman Returns, where Batman shoves a ticking bomb down a dude's pants, and then pushes him down a hole, followed by the bomb exploding? Watch the scene..He killed that guy.
In later issues it is said that Batman called authorities to the location that he trapped KGBeast so he wouldn't die
_Yeeaaah_ ... and Poochie made it to his home planet okay.
How about in Batman Begins where he refuses to kill that farmer by blowing the whole place up and getting dozens killed
Batman didn't have that rule in many of the versions you were talking about, so how could he break it if it didn't exist?
That's the problem with being a vigilante; unlike the police, you don't get a free pass if you kill. It gets made into a list.
1. KGBeast was retconned to live.
2. Batman doesn’t kill in the Arkham games they even said so.
3. Batman should NEVER KILL! As someone who grew up watching TAS and other Batman cartoons and read the comics, I, a lot of people, and big UA-camrs like Owenlikescomics agree that Batman should NEVER KILL because it ruins his character. He’s supposed to inspire hope in the innocent and fear in the guilty. If he kills one of those things gets nullified. Plus all those examples are different continuities and aren’t canon when it comes to the current continuity. There.
TAS-This is an animated series, this is non-canon.
Or do you think your logan should not kill either, because in cartoons he does not kill.
In the original version of kgbeast dies, that says it all. The villains never remain dead and they object.
Even in arkham, you can kill the joker thug at the beginning of the asylum, he even nearly killed his batarang there. At origins you can drop criminals from the roof.
Batman is not positioned as a hero, it is said in all comics, he killed too many people to be considered a hero. Like logan, some consider him a hero but he is an antihero
@@gsv740 Ok, I didn't understand a some of that but I NEVER saw Batman kill a thug in Arkham and TAS is it's own alternate universe so is canon.
@@owenparris7490
Watch the video from the asylum where we first meet the burglar. When the bats go there, he first throws the batarang into the joker, but he managed to dodge. And when the batarang missed him, sparks flew from him colliding with a chain.It is obvious that he could pierce his head.
You can also safely throw off origins from roofs. There is a possibility of murder
Well, then all star batman and robin canon in our universe, so what?
@@gsv740 Here's the thing about that thug: HE HAD A HEART ATTACK! Did...did you even PLAY the game?! How was that Batman's fault? How could he have WILLINGLY given that man a heart attack? If anything, it's Joker's fault for testing Titan on him. Jeez.
@@gsv740 Except it's an ALTERNATE UNIVERSE! I'm sure Batman would have caught Joker as he fell because he won't even let that lunatic die.
I remember a funny little thing someone wrote before that BvS movie ever came out in which Batman confronted Superman about the Zod neck break.
😡”WE DO NOT BREAK THE NECKS OF VILLAINS!
WE’RE HEROES...
WE’RE BETTER THAN THAT!............
We just break everything else.”
Originally, Batman's rule was NO GUNS!! Batman only avoided killing in a "worse things than death" kinda way... like killing was too easy or uninspired. Re-watch the 90's animated series & tell me I'm wrong!
I dont think you could add the first year of Batman in here (Batman 1). Since in his first year he carried guns and By 1940's Batman #4, in a story by co-creators Bill Finger and Bob Kane -- which is about as definitive as you can get -- Batman reminds Robin that "we never kill with weapons of any kind."
Yeah, 'Co-Creators.' Right...
6:19 Is it just me but did Jules make it sound like Batman kicked some dudes into a fire and then rapped Robin?
Just you
To be fair, it would have fit Allstar Batman and Robin. That was one f***ed up story.
The Batman body count falls mostly into three categories:
1. 1939-1940. His earliest adventures (even those with Robin) sometimes featured him killing people. The trend was mostly phased out by 1941, the same year that Commissioner Gordon deputized the Caped Crusader.
2. The Mike Barr and Jim Starlin comics of the 1980s. Both writers seemed to prefer a no-kill guideline over a no-kill rule. Barr in particular was a champion of Bill Finger's legacy during that time and justified the cavalier attitude of his Dark Knight by appealing to those 1939-1940 stories noted above.
3. The Warner Bros. movies. Almost all of them, honestly. Maybe not Batman & Robin.
Wow im sure this is nothing like their 10 times batman was forced to kill video they put out a year ago
I swear you made this list like a year ago....
You left out the time Batman kicked a guy in the head so hard, Batman broke his neck
This list only has one entry the darksied one. His one rule isn't that he doesn't kill. His one rule is he doesn't kill using guns. So ......
#5 doesn’t count as a death considering that comic was released well before Batman’s no killing rule was brought about
God all star Batman and Robin was awful
Tell me about it.
indeed
Val-Zod yup all of those are very very valid criticisms to that awful piece of garbage
Well the abbreviation is AS BAR... yeah not much else to say on that
yup indeed :)
Batman has 2 rules. No guns, no killing.
so glad they mentioned the time Batman did a Cask of Amontillado. That one's my favorite.
He forgot that scene in Batman Returns where Batman sticks an armed bomb in a henchman's pants and knocks him down a hole to blow up.
If they did that would have made it 6 entries that this video shares with the 10 times batman was forced to kill vido they did a year ago
his One rule is that he doesn't use guns and that rule is ridiculous as he has no problem launching guided missles at a person from a fighter jet.
dude the no kill rule came after the silver age as a way to make characters more marketable to kids. Batman used guns from the get go and had no issue with killing scumbags
Hmmm WhatCulture really have become the next WatchMojo. WE’VE SEEN THIS LIST BEFORE
Batman doesn't kill villains because he knows he's already fucked in the head and something bad could happen if he crossed the line.
Batman doesn't kill normal criminals because of what happened to his parents. He knows criminals have families too
It was later shown after the kg beast storyline that Batman later called the cops to take kg beast in (sorry I dont have a source link).
Dont get me wrong, the video is great just a bit flawed.
You're correct. The source is Lonely Place of Dying, it's the arc where Tim Drake is introduced.
Well, got some potential deflections, but most of them amount to "He did so by accident" - outside of the Darkseid and early-installment weirdness examples, of course.
if you break a rule 9 times, it's not a rule anymore
Actually you could say razz killed himself or Gordon killed him by blowing the track but Batman's decision not to save him isn't murder.
The golden age version of batman did not have the no killing rule, the silver age of comics came around because a code came in place that made it illegal to have killing in comics (this is when the Joker got all of his prankster gear), the Bronze Age came around when the no killing rule was lifted and batman kept the rule. The 1980's batman film was based on the golden age version of batman so is the batman in batman vs superman. Because the golden age batman did not have the no killing rule I think most of these should not be on this list. I also think that Darkseid should not be on this list because the true darkseid was never killed, Darkseid is a god that makes copy's of himself but less powerful which he uses to take over worlds (if the real Darkseid left his universe to enter another, the universe he enters will end instantly just because of his presence their).
Batman never killed KG Beast he paralyzed him in rebirth after kg beast got out of the severs
He was still alive in the pre-Flashpoint continuity as well. He was one of the inmates patrolling Blackgate Island after the earthquake in No Man's Land.
Yeah, but aren't these ret-cons?
Nanaana Batman!
I am not going to say you are wrong about the one rule, you are half right. There are two parts to his one rule, guns and murder. The rule states that he will not kill with guns.
In the Arkham games, his detective vision clearly says everyone he hit is unconscious. Killing and not saving are two different things, you can’t be arrested for doing nothing 🤣.
Keaton and golden age Batman don't count since they never had no kill rules to start with. Why do so many lists of him breaking his no kill rule count versions that never had one?
I'll be the one...
Raish Al Gul, they specifically discuss that in BTAS
I thought it was Batman Beyond that it was discussed (as I recall, someone was correcting Terry). Then again I haven't watched either show in a while so I might just be forgetting the episode you're referring to.
@@AkumaKristian I think you might be right, I get my Diniverse mixed up
Finally someone said it, was looking at comments for this very purpose
Remember when Batman threw a dude in a truck then he drove the truck, then he had it go in the ocean as he jumped out?
Leaving Ra's to die doesn't count. Although he didn't save him, he didn't pin him to the train either.
The issue that irritates me about this whole Ghandi-Batman thing is that people (including Bat fans) completely ignore or are unaware of the fact thay his One Rule is really just a cheap trope from the mid-50s that applied to virtually every comic character. Not just him. It was a way of making comics more "kid friendly " and to give writers the conveniant excuse to continuously bring back villains. So why he keeps getting singled out as the one guy in comics with this special trait is beyond me lol
We should never let Josh forget his horribly wrong pronunciation of Darkseid! Or Ewan's of Constantine.
Correct me if i'm wrong but weren't the first Batman comics made before his non killing rule was
THat came around in issue 4 when Robin was introduced
Crazy Steve.
Whenever aliens are involved Batman kills.
Indeed, if BvS taught us anything Batman is completely okay with murdering an innocent provided its an alien.
Movies doesn't count, Darkseid didn't die, Batman calls the police after he beats KG Beast, and in the first comics Batman didn't have that rule.
You could say that Bruce and Dinah had a heated night.
Batman doesn't kill he put them to sleep for very long time
“No bruce you know its pronounced raishe”. ~talia al ghul batman the animated series
Long before the nolan movies so...yeah.
How could You forget putting down the time when Batman strapped a bomb and blew up Bam Bam Bigelow?
Never let Josh stop saying Dark-Seed. That is the correct way to read it, no matter what DC says. If they wanted it to "side" they should have spelled it differently.
You have it backwards it’s Ray-shh in everything else but ra -ze in Nolan’s trilogy
I read somewhere that, in Arabic, "Ra's" would be pronounced "Ross," like that guy on "Friends." Not sure its true, but might be a fun fact if it is.
Shit! I had no idea Canary and The Bat hooked up! Good on you, Brucie!
The fact you said Raaz not Raesh as its pronounced triggered me XD
Batman boning while bodies are a' burning...
I'm quite certain you guys already posted this video before.
Ok, granted, All-Star Batman is a fucking lunatic.
To be fair with the KGBeast, someone frees him a couple issues later
Well he commited manslaughter not murder sooo....technically doesn't murder people.
Ras could have saved himself from the train in some way. He is the leader of the leuge of shadows, so if he would have a way out of the train if it would have crashed.
Bruh what is with All Star Batman and Robin and everyone saying goddamn it's like Frank Miller had just discovered the fucking word
If Batman Begins...why not his other kills in any movie?
"I'm gonna call him jus "Ra'as" from now on."
Calls him Ra'as Al Gul again.
So according to Batman killing people is wrong, but beating people to the point they suffer life-changing injuries like brain damage is ok? Makes sense.
This is only true if you take into account video games, comic Batman's only ever as brutal as situations force him to be (save for special exceptions ie the Joker, Ra's, Darkseid, etc.)
some of these examples are from a time before the whole "I don't kill" thing was introduced So in early Batman and Detective comics he routinely killed the villain, In the Tim Burtonverse he killed all the time there as well since that was Burton's (who wasn't a reader of the comics) vision of how he should act. And IIRC "Son of the Demon" is an Elseworld story where Bruce accepts Ras's way of thinking.Gotta remember there's even a Elseworld book where Batman and Catwoman are criminals and the Joker is a cop tracking them down so don't take what happens in those stories too seriously.
The no killing rule is definately not in the Tim Burton films.
Did that one guy die that he lit on fire in Batman Returns?
He didn't have the "no kill" rule in Batman #1. You can't retroactively change the rules.
Ra's set himself on his course. Batman's refusual to save him from the consequences of his own actions doesn't count as killing him.
Also using examples from before the "no killing rule" was established is kind of cheating.
And "Dark-seed" *is* the correct pronunciation.
Xhumed 1. It’s definitely cheating.
2. But you’re wrong about Darkseid’s name
Quinlan? His name was Qayin. I guess this must be your "Dark-Seed" moment.
I do feel like these kinds of lists should be limited more towards modern interpretations of Batman and other heroes since the older stuff is kind of...not good at consistency, if I'm correct
The older stuff takes place on Earth-2 too, while the new comics take place on Prime Earth. The problem is that Prime Earth Batman doesn't kill.
no mention of Batman using a bola to tie a gargoyle to Joker's leg, causing him to fall from the helicopter he was trying to board?
Yeah I could read the article but I'd rather hear it from you Jules there's no mom joke in that list.
A character called Quinlan? Cool.
I flat out disagree with the choice to not save is the same as killing.
How many people know who Batman is but aren’t superheroes list?
my thing is killing with guns is a no-no in my book. yeah, he's gonna kill a few people along the way. he doesn't want his Robins to be burden with that kind of guilt
Well honestly anything before batman 1 and the 80s? was before his one rule was added to the comics
You cant could t the movie or his first 10 years he never had that rule then. In the beginning he used a gun all the time. Alternate timelines dont count either
Great vid! FYI while waste disposal does seem lame they are well known fronts for organized crime ala The Sopranos.
I gotta say im understandable about the finall crisis event, i mean the whole multiverse was at stake. Even if Darkseid didnt even die.
Batman returns movie I believe he stuck a bomb on to one of the joker guys in the alley and blew him up....
All of you who says Batman doesn’t kill are now proved wrong. He does kill in the comics just on rare occasions.
He started off carrying a gun
He also kills several people throughout the beloved Nolan Trilogy. Dude kills quite a bit.
The current Batman in the comics hasn't killed yet
EdgyMemeGamer BUT HE SHOULDN’T!!!
@@CerealKiller2 He killed kgbeast. Almost killed an enigma with a mache. He killed a joker in the endgame at the cost of his life. Not to mention how many times he wanted to finish off the villains but the members of the league and Gordon prevented him
To be fair, of batman didn't really have the same rule, and all star batman was a total fucking prick.
Edit: Darkseid HAD to die. There is no containing, imprisoning, or anything short of death that will stop him. Even death is kind iffy.
Batman always tries killing KGBeast 3 times I’ve read. If u wanna know all 3 ask me ain’t putting them now I’m tired.
He also has a rule to not use a gunnnnnnnnnnnnn
I go by the animated series Ray-sh lol