She wants to Sell the Boat!? Stormy night & COLLISION with a ship. Ep. 260
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
- Sailing full time can be very challenging! There is so much out of our control, so much that can go wrong. Marie is feeling pretty upset during a very rough crossing from Sumbawa to Sulawesi, wondering why we are even doing this. Our 5 month old son Eli is on her mind and the potential danger we are putting him in. Very valid thoughts for a parent to have.
Sailing full time can also be very rewarding! Being in amazing unique places and witnessing the amazing nature. The culture differences with the people we meet and our own learning along the way. Overcoming challenges and feeling stronger because of it.
Its such a fine balance.
How long will it last?
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Wow Vernon. That could have been extremely bad. Yes “Brains of a bullfrog” sums that up perfectly.
Yeah we got super lucky again. A cat has 9 lives, we’ve used up a couple already.
learning by doing.Great philosophy.Great channel .
Thank you
Her: "I think you should sell the boat."
Him: "Gee, you're starting to sound like my ex-wife."
Her: "I didn't know you were married before?"
Him: "I wasn't."
Great stuff🎉
Just remember Marie it doesn’t rain everyday,merci beaucoup for video.
As new parents of an infant, it's certainly understandable that your recent misadventures and challenges have you reevaluating all of your goals and plans. Nobody that follows you wants to see you end this adventure but neither do they want to see either you or Marie frozen in fear for placing little Eli in harms way. Perhaps you could make some temporary adjustments to your travels that would bring the boat closer to Vernon's home waters, like New Zealand or Australia. Later on, when Eli is older and more independent, you could return to the more challenging routes.
We’ve had a really good time since this video was filmed around 2 months ago. Had another couple of night passages since then too and everything is going well. Fingers crossed. 🙏
Amazing how cool and calm you both are after that collision and you still managed to continue to make a great video. I'm a little bit envious of your lifestyle, knowing Indonesia, where I have lived for a year in South Sulawesi.
Haha, in the moment we weren’t so calm believe me! I was ready to throttle that captain. We are enjoying Sulawesi so far apart from the lack of living things underwater. Bombing is still done widely here.
Great video. Even with the hair raising bits. Clearly Marie was frightened by the waves crashing over the fore-deck. If the boat was in danger Vernon would have eased off, so it follows that Marie and bubs sleeping in the saloon while underway would remove that scary bit. As to the ferry captain, Report him and send the company an account...You most likely will not get paid, however no lights or AIS could be a captains ticket issue. That was bad for all three of you. Nothing you guys could have changed except not being there, but ,anywhere idiots put our lives at risk... It will only get better... Like you said little Eli just needs mum and dad, and a boob, and he's as happy as...
Cheers Colin. We discussed sleeping in the saloon, probably next time we’ll try that. All good in the end and we’re loving the cruising here since this episode.
Vernon , I am a parent of three wonderful children years 24,23 and 20.
Traveling thr south island island 20 years ago for 19 months in a tent i was called crazy. That journey was the making of my family.
Keep going, doubt is wonderful. It creates an awareness and awakening to life.
Its called learning by doing.
Don't forget, any time you are back home,I have got a cabin for the family on GBI
Thanks mate, great message. 🙏👍
Brave Eli is still in the 1st of the 12 Layers of Personality (see St Jerome substack article); that's why he won't care much about his surroundings
I love the ending segment about what did you learn today. Keep it up!
I am sure better times are ahead for you :)
Thanks, we’re gonna do that each episode hopefully.
Good video, appreciate the candor. Here’s a thought, intended primarily for Marie. Perception of risk has much to do with one’s level of experience. You mentioned selling the boat and buying a camper van. I would suggest that doing this would probably expose the three of you to more risk. It wouldn’t feel like it, because you’re accustomed to strapping yourself into a thin shell of a vehicle and traveling at 60 MPH, whereas you’re still relatively new to sailing. I’m not arguing either for or against continuing this lifestyle, Marie, but just respectfully suggesting that trading what you’re doing now for traveling by campervan would almost certainly be a step backwards in terms of safety, even though it would feel more comfortable (familiar). You’ve had a string of bad luck, and the timing has been terrible given your new crewmember. I hope it’s over for a while. It’s been frightening, and frustrating, and demoralizing, and uncomfortable, but your lives have not really been at risk. Your life is almost always very much at risk on the road. Deep breaths, and the best of luck sifting through these experiences and the choices you have. There is risk everywhere.
It is really true ! The only thing is if something would happen to Vernon, it seems than on a road I could take the wheel feeling more confident than if I would have to take the helm in Trade Runner. I don’t have much experience on sailing/ motoring this cat yet, due to the time I am spending with Eli, and the idea of having to juggle between going safely somewhere in rough sea and taking care of Eli is freaking me out sometimes, just because you can’t really stop and have a break during a passage… but you are right about the fact than we are safer on the ocean and we have more experience dealing with things on a boat. Anyway I am reacting fast to stuff in life as the French I am, I love to complain and being dramatic to express my emotions but it is fading fast haha ! After few nice days on the boat, I will say than we have the best life possible 😂 it is all good
Very true and what I personally also believe. People happily sit in thier cars every day driving at 100kmph with someone else coming at them at the same speed. Both happily trusting the mechanic who tightened up the wheel nuts to have done his job properly or the other driver doesn’t have a heart attack. I think a lot of fear from sailing is that you have to face it alone almost and far away from help. Marie is doing amazingly well and has big reserves of strength that even she doesn’t know. Thanks for the great message.
Ferry's love you Vernon, I remember that night in Sarong and a few other times that ferry's almost hit us, you've just been away from Indo to long.
Love to the family from Navigator.
Yeah, or maybe they hate me? Nice to hear from ya mate.
Glad everyone is ok after the ferry incident , the young bloke must enjoy the life he is growing at a fast rate, looks bigger and healthier every episode take care guys cheers from OZ
He’s growing crazy fast, I think Marie has Supermilk.
That little cutie is getting bigger by the day! Another great vid thank you, good and honest.
Thanks for watching!
You are one very impressive couple! You have been pretty unlucky with the reef incident and then the negligent ferry skipper. But you've stayed resiliant and tenacious. Your son is in very good hands. He'll be impressed watching these videos one day. Very, very impressed and proud of you both.
Thanks Rob, that’s a very nice comment.
Very good job on this video ! Love you all
🙏🙏🙏
Indonesia way to go 😂
Hi Vernon, Marie and Eli, Nice down to earth episode showing its not always sunsets and cocktails. André
Cheers André.
A few moments of terror can be wonderfully stimulating. The important thing is being able to fully share your feelings with each other about these dramas. Also to share in calming little Eli. Well done🥰
Yep true, I’ve lived my life embracing those moments but I’m learning that Marie doesn’t feel the same way.
You are an awesome mother for being worried for child and situation,honestly I share your feelings of being hit by such a large vessel,which is uncommon but must have been super frightening,I would have given that captain every part of my brain that I could not think,love you guys ,safe sailing.Merci.
❤
The fact that the ferry had no nav lights speaks volumes. Absolutely crazy. Glad you're ok and no major damage. Thankfully the islanders seemed amazing, so hopefully that made up for the bad experience with the ferry. Keep up the amazing work guys :)
Man you’ve no idea, the shipping is sooo sketchy here. Heaps of mining around Sulawesi and they use tugs and barges to transport the dirt. The tugs will have lights but a mile behind the 100ft barge will have nothing.
Hang in there mate. Hoping family will settle into the amazing & adventurous learning by doing lifestyle. Will you be exploring Rama Ampat again? Looked unbelievable on your earlier trip when you anchored front & back in that secluded clear water lagoon. Cheers Dave .
Thanks Dave. We anchored in a place just like that last week. We will pass through raja Ampat next year as we go east but won’t stay long I think. We had it best during Covid with zero tourism and to see it again now would be a disappointment I feel.
Great video. Love the learning segment at the end.
Thanks!
Got nervous there for a bit. Funny - when I’m in crappy conditions I often think ‘stuff this!’, then I set the hook and think ‘how good is this!’
Yeah that's exactly how it is
I was selling my boat half way across the Bass Strait on my last crossing. Still got it. 😂
Keep living the dream guys, yes there's bad day's but the alternative is following the herd of millions believing whatever the governments tells us is right and the 9 to 5 way of life is the way to go. Eli will be better in the long run learning by doing. Fair winds and better luck soon
I firmly believe this also Dave. We’re sticking with it and showing Eli there are alternatives
Thanks Vernon, Marie and Little man Eli for your update. "WOW"! another incident with another boat. I think the first was on the Eastern side of Aussie. Hopefully you'll have an easy time fixing it as really only looks like a sand down maybe layer of fiberglass and paint.
I am surprised when the ferry docked or whatever it didn't send someone over to make sure
you were okay and take responsibility. Most importantly you three are fine. Maybe a little stressed out, but we are talking Indonesia her. And their shipping and airlines don't really have a good safety record. I love the country great loving people at most part and a beautiful country. A fantastic holiday destination/travel and retirement. Still lots to be improved upon in the country's infrastructures. Take care you 3 and looking forward to next video.
Thanks mate. Yeah no big deal fixing that, it was really the minimum that could have happened. The captain would have lost face to his crew if he’d have admitted responsibility. It will always be the “touris” fault. Here in Indonesia the basic rules for traffic are that you get out of the way of anything bigger than you.
Unfortunately your boat is vulnerable at anchor with not a lot of manouvering options to avoid collisions. Our sad experience last week, a heavy trawler cut across our bow and its net snagged the anchor with 30mtr of chain. So very close. We got really intimate with the trawler & net, eventually cutting the chain & losing it & anchor, but saving the boat. So would you have done anything different in your situation Vernon? To avoid that collision. Cool island BTW ❤
Yeah as you say. If I’d have known in advance what was going to happen I’d have lifted the anchor long before he arrived! But that’s obviously impossible. I was just in disbelief until the he last minute as I never believed he would actually do what he did.
Same with our experience. We try to be proactive and recognise a dangerous situation, and that has saved us heartache more than once. In these situations you really don't have much time to react.If you can't go forward & raise anchor, you're sorta limited to emergency chain dump, hopefully with a float attached to retrieve later. Or cut chain & save your boat? Learning by doing! Hopefully we come through these things unscathed & smarter for the next time
When I was working tech support I would have a debriefing session with my team.. fireside chat I called it. What happened and what we did… and what we do next time. God speed.
Hang in there, you're doing better than most of the world's population.
Eli is growing so fast, he will be taller than you two when he reaches age 15!
I reckon he will! Thanks mate.
Do the squalls stop soon? What are the weather patterns up there? Maybe find somewhere safe to chill for a week of two and gain your confidence back. You are doing amazingly Maree!!
This zone seems to be pretty renowned for this type of weather. Fishermen often go missing for days on end, blown away only to turn up 200km away on another island.
Hang in there. Great journeys make good lives. How about hooking up with sv Delos or sailing nanji etc. share the kids aboard thing just to give peace of mind from the experience of others? I sail, but not that far, and the wellbeing and safety for all on board is the skippers challenge and constant worry. These are important considerations and best openly explored. Safe journeys. J
Thanks Jono. Everyone has different experiences and experiences things differently. Since this video was filmed we've been having a really good time and spirits are high. I hope you'll enjoy some of our more positive video coming up.
Don't anchor in the center of an obvious if not official shipping lane. Think what a local would do. 😊
Thanks. We anchored beside to local fishing boats.
You’re in Asia - it’s a rock show, everything is dodgy, and logic (at least as westerners understand it) simply doesn’t exist. Part of both the charm and frustration of Asia. Be safe.
Yep that’s the way it is and we know it after all these years sailing here. Both time we weee nearly taken out by ferries we were at anchor. In that position there’s not much you can do as if you go backwards you stretch your chain out and he’ll catch that , no time to pull the anchor in and if you go forward you might get tangled in you own anchor. At sea we give all ships lots of room.
Love ya work!😊
Fair winds U2
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i bang on sometimes about Australia and her nanny state carry on over health and safety issues, but there is definitely times when it is much needed, like maritime things. The trouble with some places is they are very lax (and using that word is being polite) on safety issues and this is why some places are dangerous and their attitude of life is cheap.
Yep very true. I dislike over-regulation but there needs to be a level of competence for jobs that have high levels of responsibility.
Its Indonesia maybe the captain bought his laison, everything is possible here in Indonesia, if you see how many fast ferries sinking here, its unbeliveable
Yep I know. Maybe just got it from his father.
Social interactions are more logical in Switzerland as compared to developing countries where law is a remote concept and, as the Chinese used to say, the emperor is far away. An adventurous video - thanks.
Yeah for sure. Things always make more sense in your own culture. The first time I drove a car in Italy I was amazed how more accidents didn’t happen but I was actually the dangerous one as I was driving differently than them, even if technically I was driving correctly
Play “the wheel”by the Grateful Dead,it will help you
Haha
Great video guys, sharing the highs & the lows. Hang in there...bad things & bad situation's tend to happen all at the same time or close together (murphy's law and murphy was a bastard...lol) You got through it, and have each other and your beautiful little boy. I'm sure things will improve. Thanks for sharing your life journey, its very appreciated - Keep up the great work as usual 😀
Hi Dale. Yeah that’s the way we look at it as well. Thanks.
Interesting episode
No we don't. We enjoy our serenity if there's no connection. There is actually 4g almost everywhere in Indonesia now so we dont find it necessary at all.
My learning is a good man will always protect his family and keep them safe; and a good woman will always support and believe in him doing just that without question. So quit with the leaving the boat rubbish because Vernon will always protect you and your kid regardless of seas or other boats.
Thanks. Some things are out of our hands though. Marie fully believes in me and my ability to protect our family but how do you protect against something like that ferry?
@@SailingLearningByDoing As best you can and then just move on. It doesn't matter what you do, or if you're on land or sea, or where you are in the world; if it involves people you will always have idiots.
@@MrFastFarmer yep very true.
As a motorcyclist I am used to people going out of their way to try and hit me so I just assume everyone is out to get me.
Bugger that.
Jeez that must have been awful ! especially for mommy holding the baby. Probably difficult to get compensation or discuss what should have happened with the ferry captain/authority ? Looked like one lesson is the friendliness of the island people.
Yeah scary for sure.
I don’t know about Indonesia, but I know in Vietnam a lot of the ‘commercial’ vessel operators don’t have formal qualifications. There sea hours and who they learnt by qualifies them. 🥴
Yep I’d say it’s the same here. If there are actually schools then thier qualifications will be based on participation not actually what they’ve learnt.
Which isn't a problem per se. Plenty of craftsmen I know can't even read, and a lot of awful medical doctors are PhD professors
@@giork2828 I agree, I mean my whole mantra is Learning By Doing. Some people just aren’t suited to certain things though and should be weeded out by those with more experience. But this guy, faced with a few options and no real pressure took the worst option
🖐😎🌈
I don't know maybe the ferry thought you were adrift ,not anchored? remains a mystery.
But even in that scenario you would go on the windward side of a stationary vessel.
Are they going to pay for the damages?
Nope.
@@SailingLearningByDoing I wonder why not? I'm sure that you had a word with them about it. What did they say?
@@robertlaird6746 we didn’t speak with them.
@@SailingLearningByDoing I wonder why. Now your going to have to spend time and money fixing it. Not even a sorry about that.
You get idiots everywhere... Don't let one fool ruin what you have...
True that!
DO NOT SELL YOUR LIFESTYLE
Haha ! That’s alright, we will not 😂 just a moment of doubts and tiredness
It's so obvious Marie wants a safer lifestyle Vernon, as a father and husband it's ur job to provide that. Be honest with yourselves, what's more important, Sailing or happy Wife.
Wow, you must be a kangaroo, jumping to conclusions like that.
@@SailingLearningByDoing just stating the obvious Vernon
@@seawench555 based on the picture you build for yourself of something you see on TV basically. What we show in the videos is maybe 5% of our lives. Would you say that if Marie was happy 70% of the time then it would justify this lifestyle?
Sailing. If they go to land they will never see Vern. He will be away 10 hours a day just to keep food on the table. Land life sux
@@Steve-ul8qb exactly!