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ua-cam.com/video/MZp4lbqV28A/v-deo.html . Timelapse. 1 minutes 🤮. Actual pictures ! Rotting flesh !!! Hot 37. Celsius 🤢🦠💩🥓🍳🍖.... rotting meat sits inside your stomach for 5-6 days !!! No fibre in your diet. You get cancer and heart attack and high blood pressure, 51% death rate. Vegans have 4% cancer, that’s it ✅❤️😬🦷💪. 100% fibre. Scientific fact. And I don’t stink like a corpse, I don’t need to use deodorant because I’m clean and fresh. 🐒🐵🦍✅❤️😬🦷💪 1% cancer !!! 99% the same as us !!! 1% cancer in the wild. Scientific fact !!
92% 🌾🌾🌾💩🐮. Industry standards ua-cam.com/video/rRxzL9bSJhA/v-deo.html . Hypocrite 🔴🤥 !!!!!! 🚜🌾🍄🌿🌱🍎🍊🥑🍆🥬🍠🚛🏪🛒🚶🏼♂️🥣😋✅🌎👍 🚜🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🐄💨💩🏯😈🔪⛓🐮🔴💩🦠🍖🚛🏪🚗💨🍖🧟♂️🤯💀💀💀.. Methene is killing our planet !!! WHO said that !! And space says that, actual photos, Greeland is melting, Antarctic is melting 🐄💨💩55% Methene !!! Science-based fact !!!!
COVID-19 is meat and fish and chicken.... et cetera Spanish flu, 1918s, 100 Million died, from pigs 🐷💩🦠🍖😵. Coronavirus, From Bats, et cetera 🦇💩🦠🍖😵. Bird Flu, From Chickens 🐔💩🦠🍗🐣😵. Swine Flu From Pigs 🐖💩🦠🍖😵. Mad Cows Disease, From Cows 🐄💨💩🦠🤪🥩😵. SARS, From Bats 🦇💩🦠🍖😵. 👆Hint hint 🐷🦇🐒🐮🐔🐣🐟.... 💩🦠🍖😵!!!!! Yeast is B12 ! B12 12.0g (480% NRV🥳). Fish are the second B12, and there is mercury and PCB ☠️🐟. Science fact !!! 🐒🐵🦍✅❤️😬🦷💪 1% cancer !!! 99% the same as us !!! 1% cancer in the wild. Scientific fact !! which side of history are you on ? The oppressor, or vegans ? “As long as man continues to be the ruthless destroyer of lower living beings he will never know health or peace. For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other.” Pythagoras 495 BC ✅❤️👏💪🌎 Delicious vegan food, from UA-cam. For vegan curry, or vegan tacos 🌮, or vegan oats ✅😋🌾🍏🍊🍓🥝........ 80,000 plant foods that’s edible...... Try it now, or you’re just a coward, and a hypocrite🧟♂️🦠💩🔴🐷⛓🔨😈🔪... Healthy vegan food, from UA-cam, Low price, no murder !! Try it now ✅❤️🌾🍄🍠🥦🥑🍅🥝🍏🍊🌰🥜🌯🌮🍛.......
ua-cam.com/video/4KUO7iOnwC4/v-deo.html Nimai Delgado, no meat since birth, no steroids, absolutely huge💪✅😲. (Hint hint 🦍✅❤️💪😬 flat teeth 🦷) 🐒🐵🦍✅❤️😬🦷💪 1% cancer !!! 99% the same as us !!! 1% cancer in the wild. Scientific fact !!
Plants are more important than a stupid cow or chicken. Stop feeding humans and livestock big agriculture crops. Plant agriculture is destroying the planet
@@GarudaLegends I agree. The best way to do that is to stop eating meat. There's more crops being fed to livestock currently than to humans. Veganism is about doing the best we can. We can't stop it altogether, but the best we can do currently is not eat meat.
@@ameliaawan6188 false. We can go carnivore diet. Less crop lands. The crops are incest and rodent food. Our human food is meat and fruit. You are halfway their. You will save more animal lives if you live on the carnivore diet
Peter Baradei Yeah i was going to say if they guy cared so much about plants then he would be vegan because not only is he consuming plants but he’s also consuming the plants the animal ate too. Far less crop deaths if he were vegan.
Peter Baradei But the cows are making the plants suffer though. You just said humans aren’t making them suffer. But the plants were already eaten. More or so mauled slowly to death.
@@plitty7903 Oxford, and every other major scientific body on nutrition and climate (and their peer-reviewers) disagrees with you (and your podcast) and agrees with us. www.ox.ac.uk/news/2017-10-03-grass-fed-beef-good-or-bad-climate Direct quote: "Explaining the key takeaways from the report, Dr Tara Garnett, co-author and founder of the FCRN, said: 'This report concludes that grass-fed livestock are not a climate solution. Grazing livestock are net contributors to the climate problem, as are all livestock." Double 'checkmate'.
@@jonathanoxlade4252 A omnivore or carnivore can eat flesh without cooking it and they don"t get high cholesterol or get sick because their body thrives on it, broccoli does not clog our arteries and we thrive on it. We are not designed for flesh eating we can survive if we cook it but not thrive, if you argue this be a true omivore/carnivore and eat your meat fresh without cooking it and chase it down and kill it with your hands like a true meat eater and you will win this debate.
@@jeffxcc if you think plants don't bleed, you're so wrong. It scientifically proven that when you cut a plant they send some sort of signal to warn other plants of danger, and the plants around them release some sort of toxicity in them for protection, so the level of toxicity will be higher in the last plants you cut than the first one. Sorry for my bad english.
I find this channel hilarious because nobody outside of this joey carbstrong bubble respects joey one bit. Not even other vegans. He's far too much and most rational vegans agree that he does more to disrupt the cause than help it.
The easiest thing to do as lebanese is to go vegan, im lebanese and i tell u most of our dishes are vegan and the ones that aren’t can be easily done in a vegan way
You obviously don't see the subtilties. Around the 3:00 mark, Joey realised he wasn't going to be able to dominate and immediately encroached on his personal space (passive-aggression) and started to raise his voice and insult the kid, despite the kid being completely passive throughout. He's still aggressive and a bully, he is just trying to mask it by joining a cult of ultra-morality.
@@richardmooreszoochory seeds in fruit / seedbearing foods are designed by the host plant to be eaten to spread the host tree or plants seeds mutualistically with the consumer of the fruits, otherwise lettuce for instance can be eaten in a way that doesn't necessarily destroy the plant to where it can continue to grow or regrow
Plants have literally evolved for us to harvest and consume them. Just like the fruits in jungles without primates consuming them and dispersing the seeds on the jungle floors then the plants would not survive.
Wrong. Pretty much all plants you find in supermarkets are heavily genetically modified to be palatable/edible for human beings and even then there are underlying issues with many/all of them. Frugivores (which human beings aren't) eat natural fruits - fruits in the botanical sense, not the sugary, thin-skinned "fruits" in supermarkets.
Aug 99 I’m gonna assume you’re just uneducated and not completely brain dead... go outside and start eating grasses and leaves off random plants, then tell me what happens. Did you not know there are FAR more plants on earth that you can’t eat, than there are plants you CAN eat? Most of the plants you eat nowadays have been selectively bred to be less defensive (the entire reason we use pesticides and insecticides like glyphosate), along with being bred to be sweeter and larger and overall more appealing. Im sorry but I feel like I’m explaining to a child something that should be common sense...
Aug 99 No, you said “most plants? On what planet” holy shit, you cannot truly be this dumb🤦♂️ try not to swallow your tongue when you eat, my special little guy... hang in there, life is gonna be hard for you, bud...
I hate the disgenuineness (yeah probably made that word up myself) of the “Plants have feelings” argument... They’re not Plants Rights activists. They couldn’t care less about neither animals nor plants.
Yes it's probably tricky when and where to direct his energy. Just like the choice we all have. When and where is the best way? Noone actually knows until it is done. Sometimes it's a case of addressing what is directly in front of you, and allowing the wonder of the unknown onflow effects to be.
@Nettle...exactly. Good point. It may seem silly on the street to chose the "dead end conversation", but if this equates to UA-cam views, it may mean more. Do not put a service level value on where energy is directed. It's arrogant to assume we know the onflow effects - because we can't possibly understand the complete onflow effects.
@@redlox2 My guess is that Joey had scraps of video from other sessions, and he decided to edit it and share it on UA-cam. I can't imagine other conversations he has had, which nobody will ever see. It's like watching cancer.
I feel like this was a set up with that guy... Plants have feelings too... 🤦 Then stop cutting the forests to do animal agriculture, stop creating more animals on farm land that eat soy and grain -___- morons everywhere, wasting time of the outreachers, trying to be trolls.
They do waste outreachers time but if filmed like this and put on here like this, then this outreach time was not wasted as shows the part of anti veganism that we rarely get to see except on here in comments.
@@shoppingfree5622 ..... Err... No? Do you not think if vegans were gonna die of starvation they would have done so already? There are people who have been vegan for more than 30years they have neither died of starvation or protein deficiency.
Venom Kaida Oh. That was just a joke response lol. But if we’re actually talking. I will just say it really depends on the persons body. And what their makeup is. A vegan diet personally didn’t go well for me. I was facing a loss of micronutrients for my bones and calcium problems. That was from my doctor to be exact. Along the lines of, “Your body needs a blah blah meaty blah blah protein..”. I can’t say it back to you perfectly. This was awhile ago. But I will say I felt weak and I was pale, like a looking dead pale. But really, it just depends on how it sits with someone. That is my opinion of course. Obviously your body accepted the diet, and mine didn’t. So I will just live with it, and not be a slouch to avoid any cardiac problems in the future.
"Plants are alive" Explains that plants are not sentient "Plants are alive, plants are alive, plants are alive." Yeah... I'd be done too. Not mature enough to comprehend you Joey. 😂
No, his point was valid. Joey said he was biased based on speciesism and his bias allows him to kill another lifeform. The kid counter argued him by pointing out that Joey was biased based on sentiency and that his bias allows him to kill another lifeform. Joey couldn't counter his argument and, despite the kid not being aggressive, almost immediately displayed passive-aggression, invading his personal space (3:00 mark), raising his voice, insulting him then quitting the debate. Joey isn't doing this "for the animals", he is doing it to try to keep himself away from the behaviour that lead to him serving time in jail and mental wards. It's self-preservation so he isn't a "real vegan" because "real veganism" is a moral principle. He is not a vegan for animals, he is vegan for himself. And when he found himself in a situation where he wasn't able to dominate, his personality disorder immediately surfaced (bullying, aggression).
If people want to protect everything that is alive, they should go out and get COVID-19 to help the virus survive. But then that kid wasn't wearing a mask or anything, so maybe he's consistent.
@@u4ea70 Are you saying that intentionally getting COVID-19 is a demonstration of independent thought and objective reasoning? I think my comment went right over your head.
south asians are the most sociable community in the uk , they are always with friends/family. The fact that he actually spoke to a stranger in the street shows how comfortable he is around people, therefore its clear and obvious that he has friends.
0:53 ...that's the reaction we all have inside when we discover we've been duped into believing animal ag. isn't a cruel industry. Now, it's what you do after you find out that counts.
Lebanese food provides a lot of vegan options. In the region they have so much choice and a lot of things eaten by vegans routinely in the west are from the region. Hummus, falafel, babaganoush, fattoush. Pitta bread, stuffed vine leaves, tahini, olives, bean based dishes. That country has the world first fully vegan hospital.
I wouldn't say being virtually speechless in the face of supreme willful stupidity constitutes "losing" lmao. You handled this idiot better than most people.
No matter what the argument is….You can pick a tomato without killing the plant. No one (hopefully) is munching on a live chicken. Hell, picking and eating fruit actually SPREADS the seeds and creates more plants!
Aww, it’s so good to see people come up to Joey to congratulate him and say that he is the reason they went vegan. It seems like it’s been happening more and more... so encouraging!!
I once was driving in a car and infront of me were three blades of grass, luckily I could pull over and only killed one human, standing next to them. Would of been a real tragedy if I reacted slower.
What if that human was a vegan? Or a pediatrician on his/her way to save children?? 😕 You misanthrope's can't be real vegans as you seem to hate one type of animal!!! What a stupid fucking thing to comment popo 😣
@@veganismishypocrisy4090 It ruins a joke when you have to explain it, but the point of the joke was he was parodying the kid's "plants' lives matter" argument. There's nothing misanthropic about the joke. So you can breath now.
So much dishonesty. "you've opened my eyes I didn't realise there was vegan meat available" "Linda McCartney's got a good range" "Yeah I've heard that".
@@setitheredcap2677 some of it does, to be fair. They could do with updating their recipes: those sausages and burgers have been around for nearly 30 years. I've pretty much cut out all processed stuff these days anyway. Good for transitioning though
@@ApexHerbivore Yeah it's always great to have them for those who are struggling to transition I don't know if we'd be able to change people's minds without them
There are only 2 vegans in my family and we have around 70 just on my moms side! I've gotten alot of harrassment for being Vegetarian for 16 years and vegan for over one year! It is no excuse because your family members are carnists! It's about you not others!!
Hello Joey, Forgive me for this question as it may seem silly but if you have chickens as pets , can you eat their eggs ? So like they are not forced to lay and they do what comes natural to them . Please no one attack me , I am just trying to learn .
Earthling Ed has a good video about this on his channel: ua-cam.com/video/7YFz99OT18k/v-deo.html One argument is, that it is extremely exhausting for a hen to lay the amount of eggs they are bred to lay. For their health, it would be better if you gave them hormones that reduce or stop the egg production.
@@lammy2140 I am in know way trying to argue , I just want to learn . I am not a meat eater but I do eat eggs and drink milk . I love animals . The information has opened my eyes somewhat , I did not know . I've always just assumed the chickens are happy but i was wrong . I appreciate your response . Thank you
Animals and plants both want to live, so we shouldn’t really eat anything at all. And do these animals and plants a favour and starve Ourselves to death. Joey Carbstrongs double standards and hypocrisy is unbelievable. And funny thing is he’s always pointing fingers at others how hypocritical and double standards other people have.
If you’re gonna act like you give a fuck about a certain topic , do your research first. YES plants are alive, but PLANTS HAVE NO BRAIN OR CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM ! And what’s does that mean! Right they can’t feel anything.
What happens if we replace the word "veganism" with "kind to animals"? If people would just replace the word veganism with "kind to animals" they would realize what this movement is about. They would also recognize how they sound when they say the following statements: "Stop forcing kindness towards animals on me." "I could never be kind to animals, I love cheese too much." "It's my right not to be kind to animals." "I'm just not ready to be kind to animals yet, and that's okay." "No one else is kind to animals. Why should I be?" "What difference does it make, when I am kind to animals?" All of a sudden it all gets much clearer what they are saying and that their actions do not align with their morals. Feel free to also replace the word veganism with the word "justice" or "compassion" for example and listen to yourself saying it. Do you still think veganism isn't for you? Or do you think it is the least we can do? Let us tell you one thing. We know that so many human animals do not want to support the exploitation, (ab)use and murder of innocent beings, yet they are keeping this industry running by funding it with their money and their justifications. We need to put things into perspective. We should put ourselves into their position for once. How would we feel if someone then said: "Veganism is just not for me" or as we said above "Being kind to animals just isn't for me. Compassion just isn't for me and justice also isn't for me". Does this sound right to you?
Had a chat with someone about how a lot of people wont have an honest discussion about veganism and just ignore the arguments and they didn’t believe me and accused me to not give an argument. So then I did and they just ignore me now...
I am great at debating through comments and writing but in person conversations are a challenge. Every day I strive to be more like Joey during outreach and in person conversations
Vegan Vacancy let me ask you something. Did you ever see a plant based doctor or dietician to address what you were struggling with? Did you do any peer reviewed scientific evidence based research or are you basing everything entirely on people talking about "feeling" better by going "ex vegan". Do you have any hard evidence that shows that bloating and the other things you mentioned are emphatically proven to only be caused by a vegan diet, and that the only possible cure is to stab animals in the throat? That sounds pretty silly to me.
Vegan Vacancy you admit youre basing that off of people's stories about feeling better and that you did zero actual research. Is it just apathy toward animal suffering then?
@@thumbwiz that can't be true. Because he knows and I know veganism is about minimising to the maximum potential. You cannot eradicate it completely. That's impossible
Even if he eats meat, he eats plant too... The animals he consumes, eat far more plants than humans ever do 😂 I could never last as long as Joey did wow people like this is infuriating
I've gained 18kg in the gym in the past year. Was a skinny 70kg runner 12 months ago, now 88kg, thanks to lifting and being vegan! We do not need meat and dairy. Anyone who says they can't gain weight is clearly just eating carrots, and not eating ebough calories, consisting of legumes, grains, nuts, fruit, veggies and for me lots of soy milk. Easy!!
An extreme lack of critical thought would have to be going on to actually think comparing the slaughter of an animal to chopping a vegetable is a logical argument. What a ridiculous justification for murder.
I love joeys response when people always say oh yer I'm trying vegetarian and his unenthusiastic hmmm yer hahaha gets me every time keep up the good work joey
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ua-cam.com/video/MZp4lbqV28A/v-deo.html . Timelapse. 1 minutes 🤮. Actual pictures ! Rotting flesh !!! Hot 37. Celsius 🤢🦠💩🥓🍳🍖.... rotting meat sits inside your stomach for 5-6 days !!! No fibre in your diet. You get cancer and heart attack and high blood pressure, 51% death rate. Vegans have 4% cancer, that’s it ✅❤️😬🦷💪. 100% fibre. Scientific fact. And I don’t stink like a corpse, I don’t need to use deodorant because I’m clean and fresh.
🐒🐵🦍✅❤️😬🦷💪 1% cancer !!! 99% the same as us !!! 1% cancer in the wild. Scientific fact !!
92% 🌾🌾🌾💩🐮. Industry standards ua-cam.com/video/rRxzL9bSJhA/v-deo.html . Hypocrite 🔴🤥 !!!!!!
🚜🌾🍄🌿🌱🍎🍊🥑🍆🥬🍠🚛🏪🛒🚶🏼♂️🥣😋✅🌎👍
🚜🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🐄💨💩🏯😈🔪⛓🐮🔴💩🦠🍖🚛🏪🚗💨🍖🧟♂️🤯💀💀💀..
Methene is killing our planet !!! WHO said that !! And space says that, actual photos, Greeland is melting, Antarctic is melting 🐄💨💩55% Methene !!! Science-based fact !!!!
COVID-19 is meat and fish and chicken.... et cetera
Spanish flu, 1918s, 100 Million died, from pigs 🐷💩🦠🍖😵.
Coronavirus, From Bats, et cetera 🦇💩🦠🍖😵.
Bird Flu, From Chickens 🐔💩🦠🍗🐣😵.
Swine Flu From Pigs 🐖💩🦠🍖😵.
Mad Cows Disease, From Cows 🐄💨💩🦠🤪🥩😵.
SARS, From Bats 🦇💩🦠🍖😵.
👆Hint hint 🐷🦇🐒🐮🐔🐣🐟.... 💩🦠🍖😵!!!!!
Yeast is B12 ! B12 12.0g (480% NRV🥳). Fish are the second B12, and there is mercury and PCB ☠️🐟. Science fact !!!
🐒🐵🦍✅❤️😬🦷💪 1% cancer !!! 99% the same as us !!! 1% cancer in the wild. Scientific fact !!
which side of history are you on ? The oppressor, or vegans ?
“As long as man continues to be the ruthless destroyer of lower living beings he will never know health or peace. For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other.” Pythagoras 495 BC ✅❤️👏💪🌎
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Try it now, or you’re just a coward, and a hypocrite🧟♂️🦠💩🔴🐷⛓🔨😈🔪...
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ua-cam.com/video/4KUO7iOnwC4/v-deo.html Nimai Delgado, no meat since birth, no steroids, absolutely huge💪✅😲. (Hint hint 🦍✅❤️💪😬 flat teeth 🦷)
🐒🐵🦍✅❤️😬🦷💪 1% cancer !!! 99% the same as us !!! 1% cancer in the wild. Scientific fact !!
Sugar Pie Hitler and Stalin and Pol Pot, killing innocent souls, Bludgeoned to death !!! You’re a loser. Coward !!!
Clearly he was arguing for plant rights because he's a vegetable.
😂 That's an insult to vegetables......remember they "feel" 😂
I know he was horrible but... Maybe don't be ableist? It's really not good in any situation to combat one type of oppression with another type.
Plants are more important than a stupid cow or chicken. Stop feeding humans and livestock big agriculture crops. Plant agriculture is destroying the planet
@@GarudaLegends I agree. The best way to do that is to stop eating meat. There's more crops being fed to livestock currently than to humans. Veganism is about doing the best we can. We can't stop it altogether, but the best we can do currently is not eat meat.
@@ameliaawan6188 false. We can go carnivore diet. Less crop lands. The crops are incest and rodent food. Our human food is meat and fruit. You are halfway their. You will save more animal lives if you live on the carnivore diet
So that's what a real life internet troll of vegans looks like.
Impressive to see the awesome intellect at work irl. I had trouble believing they were really mere mortals given their godlike prowess.
Not so surprised by his age.
i look nothing like him.
What a lad he is
This comment is hilarious
Bro us vegans cause less plants to "suffer" since we don't eat cows that are fed 2 tons of plant-based food a day.
Peter Baradei Yeah i was going to say if they guy cared so much about plants then he would be vegan because not only is he consuming plants but he’s also consuming the plants the animal ate too. Far less crop deaths if he were vegan.
Why is that so hard to understand for these deniers
GREAT POINT!!!!!!!! 😀👍
Peter Baradei But the cows are making the plants suffer though. You just said humans aren’t making them suffer. But the plants were already eaten. More or so mauled slowly to death.
Nightingale Okay...what does that have to do with the conversation?
'Whats the difference between a lettuce and a human being?'
Not much, with this guy, Joey...
Yes, I think the lettuce outsmarted him.
i'd rather talk to the lettuce. at least it will nourish my body someday unlike this kid. 😂
😂😂😂very true
Lettuce goes good on 🍔s 🤷♂️
@Aug 99 sorry buddy nothing beats beef. I don't want to pretend to eat meat.
"Humans don't grow" 😂😂😂 man this guy should be kept away from society
limited hardware he obviously meant grow from the ground , you’re just as stupid if you took what he said so literally without decoding it.
What he meant was plants are continuing to grow, which shows they are alive and that you are killing them.
@@u4ea70 It's not about them being alive or not, it's about them not being equipped to feel pain.
@@enabler2456 There is evidence plants do feel pain/stress. Even if they don't, what right do you have to end the life of another living organism?
@@u4ea70 No pain receptors.
Plants are alive, if he really cares about plants, not breeding and killling animals would save 80% of the crops grown for them.
He's a breatharian, posing as an omnivore.
Aug 99 okay not synthetic things since you don’t understand and it has to be broken down for you.
@@lopez8872 dude u understand humor? That was a joke mate.
Ironically, you save MORE plants as a vegan than as a animal "products" consumer.
@@plitty7903 Oxford, and every other major scientific body on nutrition and climate (and their peer-reviewers) disagrees with you (and your podcast) and agrees with us.
www.ox.ac.uk/news/2017-10-03-grass-fed-beef-good-or-bad-climate
Direct quote: "Explaining the key takeaways from the report, Dr Tara Garnett, co-author and founder of the FCRN, said: 'This report concludes that grass-fed livestock are not a climate solution. Grazing livestock are net contributors to the climate problem, as are all livestock."
Double 'checkmate'.
When my broccoli 🥦 starts screaming or running away from me...I will think twice!
@@jonathanoxlade4252 A omnivore or carnivore can eat flesh without cooking it and they don"t get high cholesterol or get sick because their body thrives on it, broccoli does not clog our arteries and we thrive on it. We are not designed for flesh eating we can survive if we cook it but not thrive, if you argue this be a true omivore/carnivore and eat your meat fresh without cooking it and chase it down and kill it with your hands like a true meat eater and you will win this debate.
@@jeffxcc if you think plants don't bleed, you're so wrong.
It scientifically proven that when you cut a plant they send some sort of signal to warn other plants of danger, and the plants around them release some sort of toxicity in them for protection, so the level of toxicity will be higher in the last plants you cut than the first one.
Sorry for my bad english.
@@volfgankamei5348 sure a carrot is the same as a pig 😂cmon dude
@@CicoinTokyo777 pigs are yummy, carrots are gross.
@ i always wanted to eat a puppy. I am a speciest, so i cant eat a cat
"It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person"
too true
The stupid person here being joey
@@MichaelM28 :
I guess you just answered which of the above you are👌😂
@@MichaelM28 Yes
@@beratbra2407 No u
3:10 Joey smiling to the camera guy, after realising he's actually debating with a genuine spud..
i was gonna say a spud probably has more compassion, but taters have no feelings......
We all know when Joey smiles something is coming next......:))))
I find this channel hilarious because nobody outside of this joey carbstrong bubble respects joey one bit. Not even other vegans. He's far too much and most rational vegans agree that he does more to disrupt the cause than help it.
Genuine spud 🤣🤣
Can someone tell me what "spud" means?
I wonder if he uses the "bacteria are alive" excuse when his mom tells him to clean his room
This the best comment i've ever read ahahahha
That kid is PETB , People for Ethical Treatment of Bacteria
plants dont want to be eaten. thats why vegans are mental. too much toxic plants hahahahah
@@ricardomartinhodacruz oh but animals that have a family , a brain , can feel pain,can cry, do??😂😂😂
People use bacteria to make cheese or yogurt
What an embarassment to the human species that second guy was.
Edit. Oh. he's only 16/17. Still embarassing.
@@punker4Real I hope so, for the sake of the the animals, and posterity.
Yeah I was not that much of a twat at 16/17 a twat sure but not that much of one
I went vegan when I was 16, not a good excuse lol
He’s 14
The easiest thing to do as lebanese is to go vegan, im lebanese and i tell u most of our dishes are vegan and the ones that aren’t can be easily done in a vegan way
hannahmitchell87 i know right
I bet there's some lovely vegan lebanese recipes :)
Priya Musu man falafel is lebanese, hummus is lebanese there are 10s of vegan lebanese recipe.
Same with the Punjabi diet, lentils and chickpeas everywhere lol
Can you tell me the name of some of these dishes?
let’s say plants did actually feel pain, you still should be vegan to reduce suffering because more plants are „killed“ for animal consumption
No human or livestock should eat plants. Soy and grain is for rodents and incests.
Then what should cows eat?
Should they all die of hunger?
@@alfonsodlt8850 cows love grass, not soy or corn waste
Ok... Grass is a plant
You said no livestock should eat plants
OK if u say it like that i only eat pills now if i die its on ur cap man
" humans don't grow "
Does he think that the world has just been getting smaller his entire life?
If you took that literally you really are a stupid ass vegan. Eat meat, get smart.....
@@michaelgamble2848 eat vegetables get smart
Being a literal gangster in the past, you've grown so much to not resort to violence against people like that
For sure!!!!! Exactly what I was thinking. Hats off to Joey for keeping his cool 🙇♀️
Why would anybody resort to violence during a debate (even if it is with someone of limited mental ability)?
Nope. He compare slaves who ate meat to slave masters. Check mate
You obviously don't see the subtilties. Around the 3:00 mark, Joey realised he wasn't going to be able to dominate and immediately encroached on his personal space (passive-aggression) and started to raise his voice and insult the kid, despite the kid being completely passive throughout. He's still aggressive and a bully, he is just trying to mask it by joining a cult of ultra-morality.
@@u4ea70 THANK YOU! Someone finally sees it
"Plants feel pain" he says. Well stop smoking them then young man.
Epic 😂😂😂👌💖🌍🌱💚
Best response!! 😂😂😂😂
Oh my... that little boy that kept arguing that plants are alive clearly felt for these poor plants as he can relate to them on an intellectual level
Well, plants don't have brains so that's highly likely.
Veganize Everything yes, that was his point.
Best comment lmao
LOL
@@richardmooreszoochory seeds in fruit / seedbearing foods are designed by the host plant to be eaten to spread the host tree or plants seeds mutualistically with the consumer of the fruits, otherwise lettuce for instance can be eaten in a way that doesn't necessarily destroy the plant to where it can continue to grow or regrow
“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience “- Mark Twain
Yeah I agree joey is a complete idiot
mate dont put these trolls on your channel they're such a waste of time i feel like i'm getting dumber listening to him
Well it teaches people how dumb you look doing it, so I guess it’s educational in that regard.
Plants have literally evolved for us to harvest and consume them. Just like the fruits in jungles without primates consuming them and dispersing the seeds on the jungle floors then the plants would not survive.
Wrong. Pretty much all plants you find in supermarkets are heavily genetically modified to be palatable/edible for human beings and even then there are underlying issues with many/all of them. Frugivores (which human beings aren't) eat natural fruits - fruits in the botanical sense, not the sugary, thin-skinned "fruits" in supermarkets.
That’s incredibly stupid. Why do most plants produce defensive compounds to deter animals from eating them?
Aug 99 I’m gonna assume you’re just uneducated and not completely brain dead... go outside and start eating grasses and leaves off random plants, then tell me what happens. Did you not know there are FAR more plants on earth that you can’t eat, than there are plants you CAN eat? Most of the plants you eat nowadays have been selectively bred to be less defensive (the entire reason we use pesticides and insecticides like glyphosate), along with being bred to be sweeter and larger and overall more appealing.
Im sorry but I feel like I’m explaining to a child something that should be common sense...
Aug 99 No, you said “most plants? On what planet” holy shit, you cannot truly be this dumb🤦♂️ try not to swallow your tongue when you eat, my special little guy... hang in there, life is gonna be hard for you, bud...
Aug 99 LMAO and you edited your comment because you’re a moron
Kid is an embarrassment to the troll community. Surely he’ll be banished from their troll cult
🤦🏼♀️🤣🤣🤣
These vegans are werid af
5:40
*Tomato Lives Matter???*
🙄
I'm picturing the image of L. Ron Hubbard using his e-meter on tomatoes 🤣
@@adiohead 😆
@@adiohead
Please don't. Next thing people will start talking about the Backster effect.
Life's depressing enough already.
🥺
"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
You were remarkably patient with Mo.
True!
You are right. You cult vegans only argue to agree with yourselves..
Sounds like narcissistic projection to me.
I hate the disgenuineness (yeah probably made that word up myself) of the “Plants have feelings” argument... They’re not Plants Rights activists. They couldn’t care less about neither animals nor plants.
For every idiot who argues nonsense, Joey misses the chance to talk to 10 other people who may become vegan.
Yes it's probably tricky when and where to direct his energy.
Just like the choice we all have.
When and where is the best way? Noone actually knows until it is done.
Sometimes it's a case of addressing what is directly in front of you, and allowing the wonder of the unknown onflow effects to be.
But it brings in YT viewers.
@Nettle...exactly. Good point. It may seem silly on the street to chose the "dead end conversation", but if this equates to UA-cam views, it may mean more.
Do not put a service level value on where energy is directed. It's arrogant to assume we know the onflow effects - because we can't possibly understand the complete onflow effects.
@@redlox2 My guess is that Joey had scraps of video from other sessions, and he decided to edit it and share it on UA-cam. I can't imagine other conversations he has had, which nobody will ever see. It's like watching cancer.
It can be productive for similar trolls who watch Joey’s videos to see how ridiculous those arguments hold up irl
I feel like this was a set up with that guy... Plants have feelings too... 🤦
Then stop cutting the forests to do animal agriculture, stop creating more animals on farm land that eat soy and grain -___- morons everywhere, wasting time of the outreachers, trying to be trolls.
kikolandzik but most of that soy goes to feeding farm animals
They do waste outreachers time but if filmed like this and put on here like this, then this outreach time was not wasted as shows the part of anti veganism that we rarely get to see except on here in comments.
So what your saying is that the human population just all dies to starvation?
@@shoppingfree5622 ..... Err... No? Do you not think if vegans were gonna die of starvation they would have done so already? There are people who have been vegan for more than 30years they have neither died of starvation or protein deficiency.
Venom Kaida Oh. That was just a joke response lol. But if we’re actually talking. I will just say it really depends on the persons body. And what their makeup is. A vegan diet personally didn’t go well for me. I was facing a loss of micronutrients for my bones and calcium problems. That was from my doctor to be exact. Along the lines of, “Your body needs a blah blah meaty blah blah protein..”. I can’t say it back to you perfectly. This was awhile ago. But I will say I felt weak and I was pale, like a looking dead pale. But really, it just depends on how it sits with someone. That is my opinion of course. Obviously your body accepted the diet, and mine didn’t. So I will just live with it, and not be a slouch to avoid any cardiac problems in the future.
‘I can’t beat you at your level’ hahaha perfect
"Plants are alive"
Explains that plants are not sentient
"Plants are alive, plants are alive, plants are alive."
Yeah... I'd be done too. Not mature enough to comprehend you Joey. 😂
No, his point was valid. Joey said he was biased based on speciesism and his bias allows him to kill another lifeform. The kid counter argued him by pointing out that Joey was biased based on sentiency and that his bias allows him to kill another lifeform. Joey couldn't counter his argument and, despite the kid not being aggressive, almost immediately displayed passive-aggression, invading his personal space (3:00 mark), raising his voice, insulting him then quitting the debate. Joey isn't doing this "for the animals", he is doing it to try to keep himself away from the behaviour that lead to him serving time in jail and mental wards. It's self-preservation so he isn't a "real vegan" because "real veganism" is a moral principle. He is not a vegan for animals, he is vegan for himself. And when he found himself in a situation where he wasn't able to dominate, his personality disorder immediately surfaced (bullying, aggression).
If people want to protect everything that is alive, they should go out and get COVID-19 to help the virus survive. But then that kid wasn't wearing a mask or anything, so maybe he's consistent.
@@TXRhody It's almost as though he is capable of independent thought and objective reasoning, isn't it?
@@u4ea70 Are you saying that intentionally getting COVID-19 is a demonstration of independent thought and objective reasoning? I think my comment went right over your head.
@@matttherunner1396 I suppose you're right, but U4 EA made it sound like a good thing.
Lets be honest that kids got no friends. He's so bored lol
No need to get personal on him, you don't know him
south asians are the most sociable community in the uk , they are always with friends/family. The fact that he actually spoke to a stranger in the street shows how comfortable he is around people, therefore its clear and obvious that he has friends.
He’s also a total bellend wasting the time of a good man trying to make a positive change.
What a child
He would steal your gf
@Vincent Savoye yes, thats why i said "your gf" because i dont have one lol.
"viciously take out the ground" HAHAHAHAHA I CANT
0:53 ...that's the reaction we all have inside when we discover we've been duped into believing animal ag. isn't a cruel industry. Now, it's what you do after you find out that counts.
He's trying to be funny ... and he failed so hard. I'm really grateful that I'm not as dimwitted as him xD
@@thumbwiz ya I usually wipe my butt with factory farmed meat.
Everyone who uses intelligence as a reason to eat animals should consider eating him.
This kid doesn’t answer any question, he just asks more questions. Such an obvious debate fallacy.
that one guy is just like my 13 year old classmates who ask me where i get my protein.
Ahhhhh he’s so annoying.. honestly don’t know how you kept so calm😅
Cells are also alive. Cruel cell killer!
What do you think livestock are fed idiot? The amount of plant eaten by an animal for a piece of meat is much greater than if you ate them directly.
@@zac4539I am being ironic dude, I'm a vegan.
@EB Productora Based...we shall all eat rocks and sand now
@@Denkono Indeed.
Zac B What else they gonna eat?
"Have you been inside a slaughterhouse"
"yeah"
He really got finished here.
Veganism is simply not to hurt a sentient being intentionally
Lebanese food provides a lot of vegan options. In the region they have so much choice and a lot of things eaten by vegans routinely in the west are from the region. Hummus, falafel, babaganoush, fattoush. Pitta bread, stuffed vine leaves, tahini, olives, bean based dishes. That country has the world first fully vegan hospital.
Go Lebanon!
Jesus Christ “humans don’t grow”
I just lost 1/2 of my brain cells.
Yea we don't, what's funny about that? I came out of my mum at 6ft 2''.
@@80slimshadys ouch!
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet lol
I wouldn't say being virtually speechless in the face of supreme willful stupidity constitutes "losing" lmao. You handled this idiot better than most people.
We all need to stop cutting the grass immediately.
No matter what the argument is….You can pick a tomato without killing the plant. No one (hopefully) is munching on a live chicken. Hell, picking and eating fruit actually SPREADS the seeds and creates more plants!
Just a troll. Not sure why people get enjoyment from trolling.
Aww, it’s so good to see people come up to Joey to congratulate him and say that he is the reason they went vegan. It seems like it’s been happening more and more... so encouraging!!
It is! So heartwarming. :)
I once was driving in a car and infront of me were three blades of grass, luckily I could pull over and only killed one human, standing next to them. Would of been a real tragedy if I reacted slower.
Phew, man, you're a hero. You saved two lives!
Good job getting rid of that pest and saving those three precious blades of grass ❤️
What if that human was a vegan? Or a pediatrician on his/her way to save children?? 😕
You misanthrope's can't be real vegans as you seem to hate one type of animal!!!
What a stupid fucking thing to comment popo 😣
@@veganismishypocrisy4090 humans are pests. Vegan or not, they are pests. Doesn't mean you kill them, but if you accidentally do, it's fine.
@@veganismishypocrisy4090 It ruins a joke when you have to explain it, but the point of the joke was he was parodying the kid's "plants' lives matter" argument. There's nothing misanthropic about the joke. So you can breath now.
You can’t have a debate with someone who hasn’t got critical thinking skills to have an articulate debate 🙄🤷🏻♀️
So much dishonesty.
"you've opened my eyes I didn't realise there was vegan meat available"
"Linda McCartney's got a good range"
"Yeah I've heard that".
Linda MCCartney food tastes like cardboard
@@setitheredcap2677 some of it does, to be fair. They could do with updating their recipes: those sausages and burgers have been around for nearly 30 years. I've pretty much cut out all processed stuff these days anyway. Good for transitioning though
@@ApexHerbivore Yeah it's always great to have them for those who are struggling to transition I don't know if we'd be able to change people's minds without them
@@ApexHerbivore I've had their meat pie and its worth buying, it's heaps good
@@80slimshadys I've cut out wheat from my diet, but usually relax a bit over Xmas so maybe I'll try one. Bit of roast veg and gravy 🤤
Plants regrow whereas animals don't, roots of plants always there
'You can't argue with stupid, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience' Mark Twain
The cricket noise 🤣
The “pLaNTs HaVe fEEliNgs thoo” argument is just embarrassing at this point
What's your insta
They do
@Bob Ross no
@Bob Ross they don’t have a brain
I’m glad Joey took it easy on this kid. He clearly is trying to be a smart ass. He will grow out of it hopefully one day
There are only 2 vegans in my family and we have around 70 just on my moms side! I've gotten alot of harrassment for being Vegetarian for 16 years and vegan for over one year! It is no excuse because your family members are carnists! It's about you not others!!
Hello Joey,
Forgive me for this question as it may seem silly but if you have chickens as pets , can you eat their eggs ? So like they are not forced to lay and they do what comes natural to them .
Please no one attack me , I am just trying to learn .
Earthling Ed has a good video about this on his channel: ua-cam.com/video/7YFz99OT18k/v-deo.html
One argument is, that it is extremely exhausting for a hen to lay the amount of eggs they are bred to lay. For their health, it would be better if you gave them hormones that reduce or stop the egg production.
@@user-yw6ix3ep4d Thank you for this information . I never realised about the amount of eggs , poor chickens.
@@lammy2140 I am in know way trying to argue , I just want to learn . I am not a meat eater but I do eat eggs and drink milk . I love animals . The information has opened my eyes somewhat , I did not know . I've always just assumed the chickens are happy but i was wrong . I appreciate your response . Thank you
He is just a troll 🤣
I always wondered what one looked like in real life!
y are the troll
And a very bad one on top.
Can’t wait for moe to start the plant liberation movement.
😂
@World of my Hellcat Ants Nash mate we don't kill birds😂
Nah*
Dunning Kruger effect in display there.
Massively.
It's a requirement for anti vegans
You could've ended this kids whole argument by asking him what cows, pigs and chickens eat.
Animals and plants both want to live, so we shouldn’t really eat anything at all. And do these animals and plants a favour and starve Ourselves to death.
Joey Carbstrongs double standards and hypocrisy is unbelievable. And funny thing is he’s always pointing fingers at others how hypocritical and double standards other people have.
You always seem to find the most useless people to waste you time on, but thanks anyway. A battle of wits with unarmed people
How come the conversation with the drunken dudes was more meaningful than the "plants have feelings" troller.
I saw them and my heart went out to them, I hope they're doing okay.
First guys points were so strong i think even earthling ed would of also lost the debate. Good attempt joey👍
strong? he kills more plants eating meet than us eating plants wtf. cant get your point
@@xoanrecuna He's being sarcastic.
@@CJ-fu2pn srry im not english and im quite dumb aswell
If a building is on fire and you can save a pig or a piece of broccoli, which are u gonna take?
Next time I see a tiger eat my neighbors I will show you the hypocrisy, I’ll make sure to have it on tape too...
If you’re gonna act like you give a fuck about a certain topic , do your research first. YES plants are alive, but PLANTS HAVE NO BRAIN OR CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM ! And what’s does that mean! Right they can’t feel anything.
That man has the logic of a rock
Moe worried about his pet Potato back at home... :( show him some mercy...
Aww, poor spud, it obviously has more sense of pain and distress than any animal 🤯😳
A tomato has no brain....no discernable brain in that young guy either. Honestly I could have a more mature discussion with my 5 year old Grandson!
If meat is so bad why is it so good?
I wanted to finish this whole video but AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH I'm losing brain cells.
Very impressed with how you handled that dunce
The last guy was really open-minded and had his screwed on.
1:59 LMFAOOO he couldn’t even comprehend, that noise that he made killed me
He asked a Muslim if beheading an animal was wrong.......... and it was followed by silence
Thumbs up if you wish you had a vegan activist partner
Mines vegan at least, thumbs up for that.
What happens if we replace the word "veganism" with "kind to animals"?
If people would just replace the word veganism with "kind to animals" they would realize what this movement is about. They would also recognize how they sound when they say the following statements:
"Stop forcing kindness towards animals on me."
"I could never be kind to animals, I love cheese too much."
"It's my right not to be kind to animals."
"I'm just not ready to be kind to animals yet, and that's okay."
"No one else is kind to animals. Why should I be?"
"What difference does it make, when I am kind to animals?"
All of a sudden it all gets much clearer what they are saying and that their actions do not align with their morals.
Feel free to also replace the word veganism with the word "justice" or "compassion" for example and listen to yourself saying it.
Do you still think veganism isn't for you? Or do you think it is the least we can do?
Let us tell you one thing. We know that so many human animals do not want to support the exploitation, (ab)use and murder of innocent beings, yet they are keeping this industry running by funding it with their money and their justifications.
We need to put things into perspective. We should put ourselves into their position for once. How would we feel if someone then said:
"Veganism is just not for me" or as we said above "Being kind to animals just isn't for me. Compassion just isn't for me and justice also isn't for me".
Does this sound right to you?
"I'M NOT THAT SIMPLE MATE"😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Whenever someone says plants feel pain you should just say the vast majority of plants harvested are fed to farm animals.
Had a chat with someone about how a lot of people wont have an honest discussion about veganism and just ignore the arguments and they didn’t believe me and accused me to not give an argument.
So then I did and they just ignore me now...
Should have just told him that use of electric scooter is illegal, if he wants to go on about what’s legal and what’s not 🧐🤣
“Humans don’t grow” lmao these trolls have 0 IQ
You've been ccompletely crushed, but don't feeld too bad, this guys debating skills were legendary.
😂 clowns bring you down to their own level and then try and best you at their own gamr
Joey will never be the same after this epic defeat 😱😱😱
I am great at debating through comments and writing but in person conversations are a challenge. Every day I strive to be more like Joey during outreach and in person conversations
Vegan Vacancy ? What lmao. I'm trying to make sense of your comment. Why do you still pay for animal cruelty?
Vegan Vacancy let me ask you something. Did you ever see a plant based doctor or dietician to address what you were struggling with? Did you do any peer reviewed scientific evidence based research or are you basing everything entirely on people talking about "feeling" better by going "ex vegan". Do you have any hard evidence that shows that bloating and the other things you mentioned are emphatically proven to only be caused by a vegan diet, and that the only possible cure is to stab animals in the throat? That sounds pretty silly to me.
Vegan Vacancy lmfao I'll take that as a no you did not seek a professional nor did you do actual research
Vegan Vacancy why do you believe you have the right to stab animals when you don't need to?
Vegan Vacancy you admit youre basing that off of people's stories about feeling better and that you did zero actual research. Is it just apathy toward animal suffering then?
I was a vegan until I discovered Joey Carbstrong. Now i eat animals and humans 8 times a day.
When did he lose??😂
@@thumbwiz that can't be true. Because he knows and I know veganism is about minimising to the maximum potential. You cannot eradicate it completely. That's impossible
I don’t think you lost I think you were unprepared and needed more time to think.
Neither does Joey. He was just being sarcastic saying he lost
LMAOOOO wow that went right over your head
@@alison9189 jeeze louise
Plants have feelings though 🤣🤣🤣
I care ethically about tomatoes!
Ouroboros oh that’s a shame. Here have a tissue and wipe your tears
@@UKVEGANFAMILY I can't use tissues either, they're made from trees and they have feelings too 😭
Ouroboros oh no I’m that case here have virtual hug
Actually not all tissues come from trees though ☺️
Even if he eats meat, he eats plant too... The animals he consumes, eat far more plants than humans ever do 😂 I could never last as long as Joey did wow people like this is infuriating
I've gained 18kg in the gym in the past year. Was a skinny 70kg runner 12 months ago, now 88kg, thanks to lifting and being vegan! We do not need meat and dairy. Anyone who says they can't gain weight is clearly just eating carrots, and not eating ebough calories, consisting of legumes, grains, nuts, fruit, veggies and for me lots of soy milk. Easy!!
This video is great. Thanks for getting out there and being a voice for animals ✌️🌱💚
Joey why man? just do a apology, still time to save yourself.
😂 y would he apologize? He did nothing wrong. Also not to be rude or anything but it’s an apology not a apology
“Okay but your being finished”😭
My god that mop head was painful, absolute muppet
An extreme lack of critical thought would have to be going on to actually think comparing the slaughter of an animal to chopping a vegetable is a logical argument. What a ridiculous justification for murder.
You can't argue with stupid 😂
The title 😳😳😳!!!! Can’t wait to see the future of #stands4change !!!!
I love joeys response when people always say oh yer I'm trying vegetarian and his unenthusiastic hmmm yer hahaha gets me every time keep up the good work joey
The hardest thing to cope with is not selfishness or vanity or decietfulness, but sheer stupidity.
- Eric Hoffer