Heated Debate on Veganism Outside of a Slaughterhouse
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Ed has chosen the most difficult job in the world.. Debating with uneducated people who act like they know what they're talking about and trying to convince them about the opposite. The amount of patience you have is just unimaginable. No idea how he does it.
The way the moron openly and excitedly talks about getting into "hunting". He thinks everyone can hunt for meat. What a fuking idiot. He thinks he's so "alpha" for using another, selfless and smarter than 99% of all humans invention called a gun and the scope to shoot an innocent dear from hundreds or thousands of feet away for no reason and he thinks he's a man. Males like this are insecure, stupid, cowardly losers. Most males in the world are stupid insecure losers. The most dangerous male is the American Christian who likes guns and constantly tries to prove how "manly" he is. Nothing is more dangerous than this type of male. Guaranteed to beat or r@pe his gf or wife, or kill them for not wanting to be with them anymore, or shoot an unarmed man over the smallest thing. The guy in the video is a pure moronic loser with an iq equivalent to less than that of a parsnips. Only stupid idiots are selfish and don't care about harming innocent wildlife, killing the strongest deer, hunting and shooting guns for no reason etc. Intelligent people have true confidence and know their inner power obligates them to protect and care for others and be logical. Idiots are only driven by their emotions and have no control of their emotions and can't think at all without nearly having a stroke from overheating their micro brain and micro penises
Even though Ed won this debate, the guy on the left wasn’t uneducated
@@BlackInIsrael maybe he was educated but not intelligent by any means at all
@@saraswati2783maybe not emotionally intelligent, but he was smart and coherent.
@@justcarineinparis if you're talking about the guy being interviewed, yes I agree. It's all about the EQ. Our so called " intelligence " prevents us from getting in touch with our true empathetic compassionate self. Virtually integrated corporations deprive us of our humanity.
"Flirting with me... stop hurting animals and maybe we can talk" :D cracked me up so good!
Animals get killed every day
I’m against vegans
@@jordonsky humans die everyday. Is it ok to kill humans?
@@kattihatt Only if you use all the parts!
Savage.
"It's difficult when we're both educated"
"Rhinos are not going to be useful in the alien invasion"
A very educated observation, yes
Philly Cheesestake 😂😂😂
King comment. Too good.
Atkins is terrible for you..
They eat bread. 🙄
LMAO
Philly Cheesestake See that comment of his make me think we are getting stupider!!! And it scares me.
“Hyper vegan Amish where we put the horse in the back and we carry it” 😂
Some of these interviewees sure do drop some dimes at times if nothing else 😂
Lolololol. Man that was hard to listen to
@@Fuckyatrap I'm gonna try doing that someday
@@James_Baggott 🤣🤣 let me know how awarding the benefits are when you do it
It's easy to not care about the victim....when you're not the victim. Doesn't make it right.
Awesome job as always Ed
That's right, brother!
Vegan For The Animals Ⓥ ..... Exactly
Also, the carnist appealls to 'might makes right' but doesn't even realize he does even when Ed catches him in doing so. The Cult of Carnism cultural conditioning is so pervasive that it blinds the carnist from recognizing what, to objective people, is so obvious.
Well said 💚
So do ya care about victims? Even though its animal
+kk jj.....I'm saying that carnists do not care about the victim; because carnists are not the victim...if they were the caged, exploited, tortured victim that was soon to be killed, then they would be begging for someone to stand up for their right to live
His logic: We should all smoke so the guys in the tobacco industry have jobs and don't feel bad
I do. I support organic tobacco farmers. No joke
@@GingerWithHellaSoul good for you man, if it's local aswell even better!
My logic: I don’t hear the fish complaining about the alligators eating them
Vegans are the ones trying to convert everyone to "being a better person"... He literally said we are free to choose what to eat, began or not. You ppl are exhausting...
@@hugomolinaOG who said what??the vegan dude said we are free to choose?
This video is exhausting me but I CANT STOP WATCHING
Lolol, I'm about to scream at the screen:/
maria.raeetta You wouldn't be so tired if you eat some meat.
Notice he's short? Short man syndrome. So he's gotta be all macho and shit. barf.
This guy went from calm to wet pits
@@alexanderhamilton8585 Personal attacks aren't conducive to changing someone's mind
"If a man aspires towards a righteous life, his first act of abstinence is from injury to animals." - Albert Einstein
"When I kill my meat" *the animal*.. "My meat"..
Reminded me of Joaquin being at the slaughter house... "when we *harvest* the animal" "right when you *murder* the animal" ...*harvest*...*murder* ..*harvest*..MURDER
@@lillizabeth44 Slaughter? No, we prefer to call it "processing".
@@Metal-Possum not sure why this was directed towards me, my comment was about a video of Joaquin and a quote from the video🤷🏼♀️ but ok👍
@@lillizabeth44 Oh, just going off on a tangent from what you added.
@@Metal-Possum 🤣 got it! I remember that now, my bad. It's been a few months 😅
I'm vegan and I'm living in a third world country with one of the highest inflation rates.the most expensive food you can get here is meat not plants!.
Papaya,quinoa,avocado,tempeh,chia seeds are too expensive for me to buy too because they're not native products.
Now the point is that i have a totally well-planned vegan diet just using native products.
You don't need to eat all types of fruits and veggies to have a well planned vegan diet and you don't need to eat meat to survive!
So far, I've seen many people who use it as an excuse while talking to Ed and that's nonsense!
Jasmine Mni
What do you eat Jasmine
Third world and you have a computer ?
Lmfao !
@@allgood9102 okay what the hell do you actually think a third world country looks like😂😂 yes we have computers,phones,cars, universities and internet! i didn't say we are a stone age tribe in an isolated island!
I'm living in iran.Iran's latest monthly inflation rate has hit 51.4 percent because of this shitty islamic regime. anyway now you can do your own research on that😂
@@johnbryan1149 almost everything except the ones i mentioned John.
Lots of vegetables, fruits, legumes ,seeds and nuts.
And We have afew vegan companies here that produce texturized vegetable protein, vegan milk, yogurt, tofu, vegan sausage and hamburger,vegan cheese ,....
As soon as i saw "high inflation", i said to myself is it possible that she's from iran? but your name kinda threw me off, now i see that you are actually from iran :D i always find it insulting that people come up with statements such as "veganism is a first word luxury", veganism is a moral issue and regardless of where you live, you do your best to be the most moral person that you can be. i'm Ashkan by the way :D
"You're flirting with me man, stop harming animals and then maybe we could talk"🤣🤣🤣
Stop hurting & killing plants. Plants that give off oxygen....u know what u breath to live... Ms. Josic
John Fitzgerald plants don’t have a central nervous system
@Stargazer Rominski Well to all u vegs. I do eat meat, but very lil of it...because I 1) Can't really afford it. 2)Have health issue(s). But let me make it "clear" I do eat meat. I agree that the BIG farm is not what tradition farming/ranching was. The way animals are housed/treated. The land being done the way it is. Stargazer or others it matters not animal/plant the land is in peril. 1920 Dust Bowl is an example of how both farmers/ranchers did damage. It was farmers growing of plants as well as ranchers. Grasses were tilled/damaged for crops as well as animals feeding. So what is the solution(s) change up areas for crops/animals. U said it Stargazer/others "supply & demand" so people should stop living? Put a # on births one can have in a family like China did??? Families of humans suffer/children go w/out food so one can save a animal??? It isn't a Black & White issue....someone or something will come out on short end of stick. I ask this of any of you. If there was a fire....you could "ONLY" save one...child or animal which would it be???
@@river2042 yep I know that...but plants give life...to all things animal/human. Animals eat other animals shall we stop animals from eating other animals??? Sort of like "Pro-lifers" taking a doctors life because they are doing abortions. Or "Pro-lifer" that believes in Capital Punishment/War. (lol) "UNITED STATES OF HYPOCRISY"
@Stargazer Rominski I agree...I don't want to see any suffer...human/animal/plant/earth/sky./sea. Ur right "perfect" is a lie...a word that should never have been created....for nothing is w/out a flaw. Some think they are perfect, but they are lying to themselves. (lol) All things have positives/negatives. We...including me see the problems, but what are the solutions??? Just like the 2 party political system....playing the "BLAME GAME" instead of blaming...find the solutions that benefit us "ALL" not select few/special interests...or their own interests. We have common ground focus on the common ground instead of differences. I see powers to be keep us divided/fighting one another so they can do the things they do & have better chance of getting away w/there B.S. & a % of people out here keep eating it up....pointing fingers @ one another.
WHY DID HE CALL YOU BUDDY BOY IM LOSING IT
its not to be rude its a canadian thing
LOL I was crying.
Literally multiple times 🥴
😂😅
If someone called another person buddy boy in the UK it would be seen as an insult😂 it would be seen as incredibly sarcastic/condescending, unless it’s your mate and you’re bantering
When Ed apologises to the person who continues to talk over him - ultimate respect, more vegan advocates like Ed plz
He spends his days thinking about and explaining to people the morality and psychology behind their actions. He knows that psychologically if you let people feel like they have power and freedom to talk in the conversation, they will be less defensive and more likely to soak in new information with an open mind. Ed is a very good proponent for veganism, or for any subject for that matter, purely because of how he communicates with and understands people.
@@MagnusBringsli seriously you got triggered over that?! That's sad
@@MagnusBringsli I don't think anyone's calling him a messiah, it's just good to see respect and politeness in a conversation that could easily become very polarised and negative.
I’m eating meat
@@jordonsky good for you sweetie
How can we be smarter when we destroy the planet?
We aren't. Animals are smarter because they live with the planet and not against it. They don't destroy the only place they have to live. They don't shit on their own doorstep for want of a better term. They dont pollute our planet with shitty plastic.
A J We have the highest Iq but we are just very destructive and evil
THAN YOU!!! He really means we are in control so we are better. The ignorance...
Lowshoevonhighhat no one cares
Kyle McCutcheon lets see how much “no one cares” when the human race is wiped out because you see no value in caring for our planet that life has formed from.
Ed got heaps of debates coming out of nowhere! Keep me coming ✊🏻
Joey Carbstrong Love ya videos, joey!!
Nah
That's quite a typo you got there...
angelaisacliche hahahah
Knew you were bumming.
This guy isn't a bad person, he's just been brainwashed like the majority of people have been. Including me, who wasn't vegan until 4 days ago :) Most of us have been uneducated on this at one point in time just like him. Thanks Ed for your patience with him. Ed's patience is the reason I love watching him. He educates in a way that doesn't turn people he's debating off. You have to do it gently. This stuff goes deep!
How’s your vegan journey going?
I been vegan for 2 years now thinking of eating meat just disgusts me makes me think of cannibalism
@@rudeboyjim2684 I am still vegan! :) It's going great! I feel healthier than I ever have before. My chronic stomach issues completely stopped as soon as I went vegan, so I'm never going back!
@@Natalia-xy8iz that’s so amazing to hear!!!
@@Natalia-xy8iz tomorrow sunday pork roast lots crackle lots veges apple and cranberry sauce. so tasty
It’s funny how Ed be like “Yeah..yeah..yeah sure” like he’s about to agree with them and just rips them apart lmaooo
Keep it up man!!
hahahah it's amazing!
Hayley Hawkins soooo funny 😂😂😂
It's called the "Socratic questioning". Look it up. Basically you agree with the person to make him feel comfortable and you let him speak as much as they want.
Your on drugs
Truth Freedom You're not your.
I wish I could debate like this. I admire his patience.
James Fisher S A M E
James Fisher Which one are you talking about?
What do I have to eat to be this patient?
Whose patience? They both have patience, they are in a debate and they let each other speak (the guy on the left is saying a lot of "yeah" all the time, which is distracting, but he made good points)
John Smith that’s because your weak
"I don't care about the victim."
Somehow I expected him to say somethinglike that. I greatly appreciate your patience.
Yep, he didn't need to say that, it was clear from the start.
It truly boggles my mind how people make excuses for cruelty, and compassion is controversial.
I was there once ;/. I just wanted to be
"a normal person", and eat like mY family
and for them to accept me 😢🎻🎶...
yet, they never accepted me nO matter
how I sacrifice mY health and The poor
animals, it's like having any compassion
towards helpless and defenseless beings
nO matter how I try and hide it is just 100%
unacceptable to them. oh well! I'm free now!
Cognitive dissonance 😢
yeh. warped to The fullest
The mentality of separation is so harmful. The ego makes us think we are separate from other living beings and the earth we live on instead of a part of it. It makes us think we have dominion to cause harm instead of to look after our earth and the vulnerable.
Sam x Josue YES! THIS!!!! 💚
Right on fam.
I can`t hear this we are superior anymore. In what way? Because we have mobile phones? Animals dont need mobile phones! Just because we can create something doesnt mean we are superior. On top of that because we produce all this we destroy the planet which animals dont do.
We are superior because we are the only species on this planet that understands that it is in fact a planet that we live on. A spherical object that orbits around the sun. We also understand that all those little points of light in the night sky are also suns like ours, and can also potentially have planets like ours orbiting around them. No other animal has this understanding. And no other animal has the understanding that this planet is indeed finite. It will die one day, no matter how well we look after it. We are the only species that has a chance to find another planet to live on. And the only reason we have that chance is because we are "explorers". We've explored this earth, we've explored our diet and figured out what we can and can't eat, we've explored our brain capacity and our mental and physical capabilities, and we're still exploring all of these things. And now we're exploring the universe so that we can extend our existence beyond the existence of this planet .. No other animals are doing this, so their only hope of survival beyond the existence of planet earth is through us.
That's why we are superior, and that's why we eat them.
Your an hippocrate tbh.
Guy: "I like you buddy"
Ed: "Wish I could say the same"
Lmao
Loved it lol
@durinsson no, he isn't. And, yes, I actually do know him.
durinsson yet you still watch his channel - 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Carnist: I'm falling in love with the way you say vitamin.
Ed: oh? You're flirting with me? Stop abusing animals and we can talk.
Funniest shit hahaha
Vegan_Force_Ken ye that one too lmao
"When did people start caring?? I think it's when housewives came together and had a bit too much time.." Yikes... no one else cringed at that?
That would have worked better If they were talking about the hundreds of genders and pronouns.
@@FKG0167 ha ha ha DAE think trans bad??? XD attack helicopter!!! /s homie you sound like a fucking idiot
Nope, he's right. Animal welfare is a first world problem, it's a simple fact.
@@tuub1281 lol forreal . People in 3rd world countries have bigger shit to worry about than care of animals
Exactly! And the ism rage. And flat out saying he wants to kill animals.
Meat Eater: I never heard of carnism but I've heard of veganism.
Ed: That's a start.
Lmao the shadeee xD 55:31
to be honest, even though I don't agree with this guy, he seems nice. At least he is not becoming all mad like the other meat eaters you've interviewed. He's keeping his cool.
I'd imagine most of the Canadians he spoke to were similar lol.
He also appears to actually listen to Ed's points, which most meat eaters/farmers don't care to do.
Yeah like, it's almost like he's arguing explaining his view point to the other guy instead of imposing it right?
Yeah he says hes gunna live to be 220 on the "snake diet" off nothing but meat and sweet potatoes 🤣
I mean he did get pretty defensive and aggressive for a bit there but overall he did an okay job in comparison and if I was forced to choose between shooting him or another asshole carnivore I would "choose" the other. Thankfully there's a third option of doing neither :)
I'm from Peru (third world) and I'm vegan, just in case you haven't notice we have internet here and we can also speak other languages. Hope he enjoyed his month vegan challenge. Greetings!
Do you think there is more vegan people living in Peru than meat eaters? How easy is to live as a vegan in south America?
@@ACM1PT95 To your first question: No. Definitely no. I'm no Peruvian but I know a lot of them and it is also a google search away to know that 3% of Peruvians are vegan.
To your second question: It is for sure not easier than first-world countries. I was vegetarian for a decade when I lived in Latinoamerica (I was born and raised in Chile) and then moved to veganism and yeah, it is not easy but it was getting better by the time I moved out of the region.
@@KrizaIid117 How is it not easy for you bro? Maybe I can help.
You can find all kind of ingredients in south America and they are cheap, aren't them?
@@ACM1PT95 Well no there are more meat eaters in Peru, only 959700 vegans.
What do you mean by easy?
Cheap? Yes. If you give me your vegan list of ingredients I can share with you the price and I promise you are going to like it.
For example. The venezuelan black beans, platain, rice and (could be replaced by tofu or other vegan option you like) this would cost, in Peru 7 to 10 soles top. Less than 2.50 pounds. Would that answer your question my bro?
@@martincitosurf Sorry, I was never notified of this reply. I don't live in latinamerica anymore so it doesn't really matter. Thanks anyway for your disposition! :)
No reason to mock him. He said he's gonna give it a go. Maybe a future vegan here. And if he does go permanently vegan, you can bet that he'll be speaking up about it and inform himself of the facts. He actually makes a good point about getting diet right. We don't want people going vegan, eating incorrectly, reacting to foods, or exacerbating gut issues and then turning back to animal products. So information on nutrition is important. Of course he overstates how risky the average switch to veganism is, and made some pretty fallacious arguements, but I feel he will genuinely think this over.
The issue isn't just about him becoming vegan, it's his mentality that he is better than an animal because he is human. It's so hard to ignore the ignorance..
He lies an awful lot. This argument would have been a complete waste of time if it hadn't ended up on line. This illustrates the stupidity of your everyday carnist, and is inspirational to vegans who want to know know to talk to these people and keep their cool.
It was a good discussion and I agree, we do need to make sure we do the plant-based diet properly and I hope that this guy found the info he needed so that his body did make gains on it. He seemed to be of character that would not go into it blindly.
Conscious Personal Growth Spot on. Everyone has variations of gut microbiome, and metabolic expressions...for example, my WF plant based diet can’t contain grains or high carb starch, sugar, junk or high Oxalates, I also have allergies to nightshades...So everyone needs to listen to their body and sense which things are best for them. Also encouragement and positivity has a better effect than trying to be condescending or putting people down. Great channel too Alex.
Fiona Fay well said :) and thanks for the kind words.
What i love about this debate is that it starts super intelligent and coherent and it turns into a “but rhinos wont help against aliens” and it just shows the mental gymnastics of stubborns carnists
are you a lunatic, both been respectable and had a good discussion. Clearly both are intelligent; the rhino alien thing was an example of an uncommon scenario for comparison. I can try to help you with your vegan diet if you want brother, seems like your judgement is impacted.
@@GERMAN2FUCK2DOWN The debate clearly got heated. Ed is as always very composed.
I prefer to call them speciesists. A bit more accurate way to define their ideology imo. No human is a carnivore.
@@ReasonMakes Well there is the 'Carnivore Diet' that's trending and has been popularized by Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan which is almost exclusively meat with the only exceptions being things like milk, eggs, and such.
@@zacharyshort384 Sure, and I'd still prefer to call them speciesists. More accurate term imo.
Ed has the patience of a saint. If he was religious, he'd be a saint.
I think he IS A SAINT.😇😇😇😇😇😇
Sailing Tranquility Bay I’m pretty sure he did that purposely. (I was at the vigil when this happened) Most of the activists standing around theorized that he purposely let the guy talk for hours so that he’d get tired and run out of ideas and then Ed could actually get to him and speak the truth. ❤️💚💜
THIS IS SO EXHAUSTING!! Ed, you're a freaking rockstar. thank you. also kudos to the camera person
Leah Michelle shut up
I could only dream of having the level of patience that Ed has. The vegan community is so proud to have you representing what it is we stand for, Ed ♥️
Ed is vegan Jesus
Vegus
"i dont know any vegans older than 100" heres something copied from wiki: The woman Loreen Dinwiddie lived to the age of 109, including 88 years she stuck to a strict vegan diet.
His argument was nonsensical.
There's actually a heart surgeon vegan for at least 20 years that lived a healthy life beyond 100.
@@lavie4485 Yeah, he worked as a surgeon until he was 75 and an assistant surgeon until he was 95.
@@callidusvulpes5556 Yeah there's as many examples of meat eaters living this long too. You also get unhealthy smokers and drinkers making these ages too. Its genetics and luck of the draw, doesn't prove the awful vegan diet is good. Get real.
@@deadfred6231 he said that vegans don't live to 100 and got proven wrong
What more do you want
Loreen Dinnwiddie, died in 2012 at the age of 109, she was born in 1903, became vegan in 1922. She was vegan for the last 90 years of her life.
Keep eating up our oxygen with your veganism. You completely lack self awareness.
H. Jay Dinshah, died in 2000 at the age of 66, he was born in 1933, became vegan in 1957. He was vegan for the last 43 years of his life, founded the American Vegan society, died of a heart attack.
@@robd8336 are sure heart attack??
olu baba yes. Heart attack, at the young age of 66.
Elizabeth Elias sounds kinda lonely rathe eat and enjoy myself than live a long time and watch everyone die
"So an animal's worth is based on whether or not they can help us in an alien invasion?" LMAO
Plant Fueled Strength shut up
That was actually hilarious!
Rayna B C ok u need to go back to the kitchen
ed was not very strong on the whole point of the worth of humans/animals. He went south on this topic and started interupting and in the guy's eye (which he pointed out) he made stupid examples. So after a while he got fed up and gave a stupid example too. Funny sentence, but don't quote it out of context, you aint winning anyone over, the oposite would be more likely.
@@hahahhahahhahahaahah6400 You fuckin high bro?
Finally getting to watch Ed debate someone who speaks at the same speed level LMAO this is refreshing
But he feels coked out lol
Honestly, how many people are in love with Ed, or have a crush on him, or wish they could debate like him?
TodaysRealHealth I’m in love with him
@Prairiedoggen Legality is isn't an arguement for morality. Slavery is legal, but we still say it was ammoral even in the place it is legal.
Ed is a good debater, but I would tear him up.
Prariedoggen> I have to agree. This guy just keeps repeating the same vegan propaganda he's heard from other vegans via books or biased documentaries. He's a smart guy and good at making his point, but a lot of what he says about animals, nature, the environment and human nutrition is just plain inaccurate. I would love to debate this guy. I'm a zoologist and I also know a lot about human nutrition, so I have no doubt I would tear him a new one. I challenged him to debate me on one of his UA-cam videos, but he never got back to me. What a shocker.
@@ryannlewis3955 same
"Carbs are horrible, you should only eat meat, fruits, and vegetables"
"Fruits are carbs"
LMAO I'M DEAD
It's so bad that people think this on society, our brain literally runs on sugar
Im on a low carb diet i love vegetables but i rly dont like carbs and being vegan its impossible to cut on carbs
Too many carbs, and especially if you include refined sugar, cause an insulin response which causes fat storage, arterial damage, a shrunken brain, damaged hypothalamus, insulin resistance, and many other problems with health. Low carb is the only way to go if you want to keep your health.
John Smith> Speed is very bad for your health. I suggest you quit taking it.
@John Smith You seem like the kinda guy who gives people a bad impression of vegans
"If I talked to every one of the animals I was about to eat, I'd probably have a lot more pets"
hahhaha. I know. I thought he was going to say one right thing which is "I probably wouldn't eat them." Nope, after being enslaved in the factory they get to become pets.
animals shouldnt be pets or ours
Some domesticated animals are so different from their wild counterparts (e.g. chickens) that they cannot survive long in the wild. They have to be pets for the rest of their life.
@@taylordfghfh I have a dog. He lives with us, I look after him and take full responsibility for him and tend to his every need. He's part of the family, What's so wrong with that?
@@deadfred6231 i think there's a difference between being a pet and being a part of the family. if that dog's you're family, i think that's a good life for them.
The look Ed gives at 24:46 when his opponent brings up the old "plant agriculture kills mice" argument. Got 'em!
legendary, i was wondering if anyone else noticed it hahahah the old "vegans ruin the environment cos of soy" argument. Probably the easiest argument to disprove
@@danielroberts8504 growing plants kills wildlife.... get over it
I don't get why the person ed debates always gets criticized by some people, I mean obviously they are going to say something you disagree with, that's the point of a debate. We should be supportive and encouraging instead of adding pointless criticism that only other vegans are going to 'benefit' from seeing. The fact that he is even with ed and having a conversation is really cool.
Thank you. Every "vegan" I talk to just starts foaming at the mouth in rage.
Yeah vegans have some major chemical imbalances that's for sure.
he knew he sounded irrational by his admission i can respect that
prinniesforeveryone He just likes the sound of his own voice, despite the fact that he continuously gets slammed
@@anomalous34 Wish I have a LOL emoji on my computer haha.... Yup we should promote love not hate and anger.
Guy: our system has like ... a broken arm...
Ed: I think it's decapited.
🤣🤣🤣
Our system has been maimed. Haha
Dude: I love your accent when you say vitamin by the way
Ed: im flattered, but stop harming animals and maybe we can talk.
🔥🙌ohh!🙌🔥😂Haha!😂
My goodness, 1 hour and 6 minutes talking with the other dude..wow.
Ed is super patient, I gotta give props & respect to him for that and for what he does. Very well done Ed! Keep it up!👏👏👏👏👏
I cringe every time an American compliments a Brit or an Aussie on their accent. As if Americans don't have accents! It's such a moronic thing to say.
dont they mean how it's different to theirs?
that was hot
@@skycross1712 guys Canadian not American
+Devin Cantelo My bad. I still think "I love your accent" is a ridiculous compliment to give someone though.
my great grandma was vegan for her whole life, she lived 99 years.
W
awwee :) that's amazing! did she pass down the tradition of veganism to everyone else up to you?
My grandma was 103 and wasn't vegan
@@JHL751 that's amazing that she lived to 103 but she definetly wasn't eating 70% meat tho
@@sushicooking she was constantly eating meat she lived on a farm, LOL even meat-eaters don't eat 70% with every meal
"Flirting with me, I like it. Stop harming animals and maybe we can talk"
💀💀😂😂
Lil Vegan i lovee it😂
Right?! That was hilarious!
he lost it there jajajajaj
You are literally epic. Your passion, your drive, your patience, your determination, your confidence, your courtesy, your love of animals... I could never have enough of watching you .. fighting to bring a voice to the voiceless.
beautiful soul 💕 beautiful ambition.
#veganforlife
Couldn't have said it better. 🦋✊🌎
@npc's everywhere what about this cow, this chicken or this deer your eating... What about THEIR right to enjoy life as any sentient being should... Do you have respect for them? Your self given "right" to eat their flesh is also the root cause of an environmental disaster.
Since we all share this Earth, I think your so called "right" to eat animal flesh is bound to be opposed increasigly as time goes by, you'll have to get used to it... Or stop fighting for what's wrong and embrace the change.
You're choice... Peace ✌️
@npc's everywhere so if i wanted to murder someone, or rob a store, that would be okay because it's a personal choice?
Personal choice is not a solid justification for an action.
Either it's all okay, or none of it is okay.
@npc's everywhere You are an imbecile. The "we've always done it" argument is so weak... Indeed we would all still be cavemen if everyone shared that "reasonning". And plants are not sentient, therefore comparing them to animals is beyond moronic.
The face Ed makes at 24:45 when the guy is looking the other way is great
Lol yeah
amazing hahaha
yes, thought the same😂👌🏼
Mike love it
@@jamesward-parrish2309 No, it just shows he's tired of those pointless arguments used over and over again. That face he made is like "Oh boy, here we go again".
You gotta appreciate the courage it takes to go face somebody holding a camera to debate
I’m glad it’s still possible to discuss respectfully those subjects
Did he really suggest people not eat for 48 hours at a time rather than just go vegan?
Mireya Cano shut up
Even on a plant based diet you can likely benefit from fasting and caloric restriction. Caloric restriction has been tested on monkeys, along with various other animals and is strongly linked to longevity. It is a proposed factor in the longevity of okinawans. Fasting on a semi-regular basis gives your digestive system some rest, burns fat stores, releasing toxins from the body and promotes a process called autophagy, where your body clears out damaged cells and recycles nutrients, healing old wounds etc.
The "snake diet" the guy in the debate keeps bringing up sounds pretty similar to that "vegan bodybuilder eats one meal a day" protocol, Dr Nun Amen Ra or whatever, designed to increase longevity by fasting and caloric restriction. No idea if that's legit, I haven't looked into his specific diet/lifestyle plan personally.
I myself fast every so often to treat my chronic psoriasis and joint pain and it's the only thing that reduces my symptoms. My GP seems to approve of it, saying it's not unheard of for doctors to suggest things like the 5/2 diet to obese patients and diabetics. It's also beneficial for resetting unhealthy eating schedules.
The main risks are dehydration and eating disorders, so if you can reduce the risk of being affected by those, then not eating for 48 hours at a time could actually be a solid plan.
Yeaaaaa
Its called fasting and has hugh health benefits
@@lammylangle7933 +1, med student here
This is probably the most sound guy Ed has spoken to, he seemed very receptive.
What video are you watching? This guy literally fights everything with his alrdy set mindset but acts open minded, he fake as fuqq
date mike do you know what sound means? It’s not the same as logical or valid lol
CANADIAN!!! :)
I think the one thing the guy lacks is he thinks he's more important than animals but then disagrees that intelligence makes someone more important. Like, he's soooooo close...
The guy with the cap on his Head will be Vegan 🙂 soon.
Ed's patience and composure is admirable.
it is truly, but tbh i would like to see this guy getting obliterated by Gary Yourofsky
Sure is. Ed is just so militant. LOL! ;)
I believe the other guys knowledge is admirable.
Deyz Gaming agreed. He knows his shit. Gotta give respect where it’s due.
10:34
"For deer?"
"Fedea?"
I went vegan about 4 months ago and I started a UA-cam channel to spread Veganism! Big shout out to Ed for helping me answer some questions people have!
Don Salieri thank you!!!
James Ward-Parrish I never claimed to be an activist, if you checked my channel out you’d see that I do vegan recipes, traveling, gym workouts as well lol. Thanks for your concern though man, have a great day!
James Ward-Parrish I don’t think meat eaters are bad lol like I said man I’m not a vegan activist. My whole family is meat eaters, I don’t judge because I once ate meat. I just want to live a healthier lifestyle man, and being a vegan is the best option for me! The What The Health documentary really opened up my eyes man
That’s so awesome Tyrell :) congrats!! Its so important to get the information out there!
Kaya Weber make sure you subscribe 🌱💚
41:07 he declares that he strongly disagrees with every single of the "-ism" cults and at the same time he is advocating (without knowing it) for specisism.
He also FIRMLY states he believes there are good and bad people (no -isms) then 20 minutes later agrees wholeheartedly there's a spectrum of good and bad and no person is all good or all bad. Ed is masterful at revealing hypocrisies
@Deanoss Last I think (as you well know) they meant speciesism
spe·cies·ism
noun
the assumption of human superiority leading to the exploitation of animals.
@Deanoss Last Its in the dictionary.. its a word. lol
Word:
noun: a single distinct meaningful element of speech or writing, used with others (or sometimes alone) to form a sentence and typically shown with a space on either side when written or printed.
dic·tion·ar·y
noun
a book or electronic resource that lists the WORDS of a language and gives their meaning, or gives the equivalent WORDS in a different language, often also providing information about pronunciation, origin, and usage.
speciesism is a word whether you like it or not. :)
I think the absolute worst was him arguing against slavery and not coming up with "abolitionism" on his list. Pretty sure he knew about that one.
@@JuiceTubes to be fair, the guy on the left doesn't argue about pro/cons of veganism/meatanism on a daily basis, so i suppose he doesnt have a 100% set opinion on his position. Ed practiced his point of view for a long time, over and over again, unlike the guy on the left (did anyone get his name btw?)
11:41 faster than Eminem
😂
🤣
Almost as fast as Wattsky
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s better every time you watch it 😂😂😂
This is an example of a true Speciesist. He is willing to go for an hour, giving every excuse possible, when he could just admit the truth: he (supposedly) dislikes the animal abuse but if it interferes with his love of eating animals, he accepts it and as a hunter even promotes it.
Fr .. he is like animals can't help me in an alien invasion, so I don't respect them...pity he didn't know that a differently abled person isn't any different...
@@santhoshs9933I agree with your sentiment, but "disabled" is the correct word. I was disabled for four years, and I find "differently abled" to be a trivializing/minimizing and therefore disrespectful term.
Disabilities entail a lack of ability, not the mere possession of "different" abilities. If you were disabled, you'd know that to be the case.
Or or maybe it's like eating meat is not animal abuse? Lol
@@bruise_willis Or or or or...maybe it is abuse. When you pay for "meat" you're buying the enslavement, torture and murder of animals for your own selfish pleasure. Your $$$ speak wonders. BTW: it's not food, it's VIOLENCE.
I feel like this guy is smart enough to make the switch one day. I hope he does.
Wishful Thinking. If he were smart enough, he would be convinced.
@@dipanjan_roy that's a really dumb way to see it. At some point, none of us were convinced. We now are. Don't doubt the power a mind has when it comes to convincing yourself that you're right
@@WonkaWorker true
hes smart enough to not
@darko malnutrition 🤣 you're so brainwashed, indoctrinated since your childhood. Unable to weak up.
"I bet you right now I'm gonna live longer than you I'll be at your funeral"
"I...dont like that..." 😂
owned
xD
That's messed up
Nicole Tilly
Nobody gets out of this life alive including you so I’m going to enjoy eating while I’m here.
Literally the most shook I’ve ever seen Ed lol
Hahaha this guy is amazing. Completely disagree with him but at least he was entertaining. Ed’s patience and ability to maintain a chill vibe is so respectable.
Joe (the meat eater) is actually the most intelligent meat-eating defender I've seen debating on this channel, even if he was not so aware of the facts, he could admit to his own biases and that's all it takes for a gradual change.
I won't be surprised if he becomes vegan in the future.
Thanks Ed for your work!!
exactly, this carnist is actually pretty intelligent, hes probably vegan already after finding himself on this chanel and further educating himself.
Even though he did contradict himself... like... a LOT. :s
@@tims8220 “chanel” lol
He seems kinda lost in his "carbs are bad tho" mindset tbh.
17 yrs vegan! I supplement B12 once a week, that's it. When I wasn't vegan I was on a multiple vitamin, vit D3, iron, fish oil supplements. High BP and high cholesterol meds. Now not on any medication :)
good for u...all though the supplements are not regulated so supplements u buy could be anything u wouldn't know the difference. Not to mention ur just literally pissing away money for the body absorbs what it needs & waste the rest...(lol) but by all means u have a right to ur lifestyle.
If you eat a proper omnivore diet you wouldn’t need to take any supplements.
@@robd8336 but then again some have medical issues that the body doesn't absorb/digest foods properly. I have been dealing w/ Ulcerative Colitis for 31 yrs. my body has problems w/certain foods...breaking it down/getting the nutrients it needs. I was told by doc about 3 weeks ago I have type-2 diabetes now. I have had heart disease for 9 years. I "truly" don't eat much meat...I have never been big on sugar even as kid. My primary bev. is water. I don't smoke/drink. Never have smoked. Drinking I never really drank...once in a blue moon...just never was my thing. I have used rec. drugs, but only a few things....short time....nothing heavy....the "only" thing I have done off & on thru thru the yrs. is Weed. I was 21 when I did any rec. drug....weed. I have done coke but last time was 1995 I went thru 7 mnths. other than that nothing else. I'm sharing to be "honest".
John Fitzgerald of course there are going to be some people who need supplements due to health reasons, but for the vast majority of humans don’t need supplements if they properly ate the human diet.
@@robd8336 what is human diet?
42:29 "one human did"
One vegetarian human. Einstein died vegetarian by the way, openly expressed his guilt on consuming animals a long time ago, a time where veganism wasn't even a thing yet.
Thanks!! I didn't know that.
I looked it up and the first article that came up was titled, "The Weird Reason Albert Einstein Went Vegetarian."
I read it and I was going- _are you kidding me?_ His doctor literally told him to go meatless for his health and Einstein said he had a guilty conscious for eating animal flesh anyway. How is that a "weird" reason? www.thedailymeal.com/healthy-eating/weird-reason-albert-einstein-vegetarian
He was also a plagiarist and a fraud.
@@BloodwyrmWildheart proof?
Man I want an update on this one hahaha I was irritated by how many times he said “who cares it’s an animal” and “we’re the best” when tbh humans have basically singlehandedly destroyed this earth 😟
Princess Perfection but in this world it is all about survival, and if killing another species is necessary than so be it. I will put my life over an animal's life any day. It's about the survival of the human race
@@taliafaamoe1022 Then you better hope aliens don't think like you :)
nvmffs aliens? Are u stupid?
@@taliafaamoe1022 killing another species is not necessary for our survival at least not in our modern world. Will you regard your taste buds over the life of an animal?
Tell them about it👍
I absolutely love how Ed gets the message across in the calm, collected and effective way that he does. We are so lucky to have him on our team!
“Flirting a little bit. Stop harming animals and then we can talk” I’m crying😂
Almost 4 years ago, 2015... I wanted to prove vegans are wrong and we needed animals for our health...
Needless to say... I'm still vegan.
Chancel Nuque you still alive?
❤😹👍
I did it many years prior. I’m high energy vegan. So healthy too. Athlete and now study everything. Found Egyptology and Quantum Physics, fascinating. I could easily add two more degrees now with vegan brain power. Just learned a entire language in 3 months. Fluent.
@@todaysrealhealth8038 Showoff!🤣🤣
❤
I wish he spoke a little faster
I had to put the video on slow speed XD
Lmao
Haha! Right, and his foul language, and being a master interrupter. I hate being interrupted, I love that Ed never let's it get to him or at least doesn't let it show. Lol
lmaoo. youre the best dude.
I watched on 1.5x helped speed him up.
"We are best the best,apex predators"
-pure ego
A little pathetic, really- such misplaced ego. He wants to be the best of himself by killing animalis, instead of just being a good human being.
Facts and logic destroy carnist nonsense every time
Indubitably.
The Body
Yes, my friend, indeed!
why do you comment that every video? correct me if im wrong but i dont think you even watched it, it was uploaded 50 minutes ago and you commented about 45 minutes ago. i do agree that veganism is morally superior but many people who see you comment the same thing each time may consider you to be practising blind allegiance, something which plagues the non-vegan side of this debate
Jos ,
Hi !
It's a meme, plain and simple. It's also a way for me to support the channel as the more comments and the more thumbs up per video (I always thumb up a video when I leave a meme comment), the better off for the channel.
And because it is a meme, there's no reason I have to watch the video entirely. Besides, there are probably no new arguments, excuses, and rationalizations from carnists that I haven't already heard a million times before....so nothing here new to me.
As for those who may get triggered by seeing this meme in lots of video comment sections and making assumptions about me, that's their deficit, not mine. I don't lose sleep over people holding triggered-based assumptions about me. If the carnist can't recognize the difference between a meme and an argument and assumes that by me posting a meme that this must mean I'm practising blind allegiance, then that is indeed a very sad situation for the carnist to go through their life being that way.
Have a nice day!
@@LouisGedo just chatting major shit there fella. You're the "get paid a dollar to watch a four minute video" of UA-cam. Have a day off.
It's interesting because it's the same people with this type of attitude towards the animals they don't know or care about yet they sign petitions to save animals like lions... animals are all the same and none want to die.
The Stop the Yulin Dog Festival petition on change.org has like 2,000,000 signatures but I bet the majority of those signers regularly eat pigs (which are smarter than dogs)
katleidoscopic I agree! I'm all for doing anything that helps animals but it's just so counter productive if you do that and then eat them ☹️
Lasherluke I am aware. I obviously meant non human animals... the victims Ed is talking about.
ItzHydra you save on average 10x more plants by being vegan than by eating an omnivorous diet. Not to mention the saving of water and most importantly animals lives 😊🌱
Biophotons ? I am aware they are critically endangered, everyone is. That's not what we are asking about here. I am saying, on a basic level, I see all animals as equal because of the fact that they are sentient beings, none of which deserve to be harmed for any reason. The passion people feel for endangered species, I feel that for all animals. That's why I am vegan and I am studying to be a veterinary surgeon.
Is it possible to be in love with a person you've never met?
Asking for a mate
Natasha Moore We need a vegan only dating, friendship and long term romance site.
@@todaysrealhealth8038 veggly in europe:D
@@todaysrealhealth8038 "vegan Partner - THE site for people who think to do something good but don't make a difference at all"
@@todaysrealhealth8038 that's the most retarded thing I've read this year. Props to you my guy
@@jker4592 so many benefits tho lol its better for the planet and saves animals!
WOW. because of your patience with this dude he ended up deciding to go vegan for 6 whole weeks on his own accord! that is unbelievable. i would never have guessed it the way he was arguing throughout this entire video. great job as always ed please keep up the amazing work. you are changing the world!
This guy thinks talking fast makes him sound smarter 🙄. He is precisely why I don’t do public activism. His condescending smart ass attitude would make me want to punch him in his throat. Well done as usual, Ed. SOOOOO much respect for you.
And by the way, I’ve been vegan for about 5 months. I eat when I’m hungry and I eat as much as I want. Sometimes I eat once a day, and sometimes I’ll eat all damn day long. I’ve lost 45 pounds, and I am HARDLY regimented.
❤✌🌱🕉
Same as to how I eat!
Good job! Much respect and love to Ed and other activists, the work they do is incredible!
How did you lose that much so fast??
Probably by burning more calories than she consumed, that's the probably the best way :)
Cows get supplements like b12, too.
I have vegan for 30 years , pregnant 🤰 and super strong!!! I surf!! I exercise and I’m Happy
clau delatorre... Aren't you special
And you write like an imbecile. Must be one of the symptoms of a vegan diet.
clau delatorre there was a vegan family in the news recently for killing Thier infant by giving it a full vegan diet and no breast milk or cow milk or formula.. I really hope when you have your child your not as dumb as these vegans were...
Lala Lala ppl who do that aren’t educated vegans. We say don’t drink cow milk cus we aren’t baby cows but I as a vegan, would give my own child my breast milk and baby formula which is naturally vegan because it’s chemically made for infants. Don’t judge all vegans like that honestly, that could’ve been a fake article trying to paint a bad picture and also if it’s real, she was honestly ignorant for that and isn’t educated enough.
@@indigomira it was on the news not an article an actual TV news story.. I'm just hoping this vegan who's pregnant isn't dumb like the other one whose in jail now for killing Thier infant under malnutrition
“We educate our youth” yeah okay we need to do a little better in that department lol
Dear Ed- please consider doing a follow up on the people you've debated through the years- how informative that would be!
that would be so interesting especially with this guy
The world must see this ❤🌍
i like this guy! if more people could communicate the way he does, we'd resolve a lot of issues.
*Ben Shapiro has left the chat*
Resolve what issue ? His opinionated argument is not based in medical science , he's full of misinformation and clear delusion .
Just because he portrays calm , does not mean he is giving truthful information . He has an agenda , nothing more
@@allgood9102 Okay but you see, you brought up a great point AND Slow Cut brought up a great point. Yes, as you said All Good, intelligence and actual knowledge, facts, and evidence ARE important, but what I think is EQUALLY as important is what Slow Cut said about respectfully communicating. Another thing that's needed is an open mind, to be willing to accept your position is wrong IF it is argued with no ability to counter the arguments.
And that's why Vegans can "appear" condescending or "know-it-all" types, because we in a lot of ways have "heard it all" in the sense of how most everyone who argues Veganism uses the same handful of logical fallacies. There isn't a way to be logically consistent and eat animals while NOT thinking it's okay to also kill and eat humans, because if someone thinks "they're different' so it's okay to treat them differently, then it's THOSE people who have to specify EXACTLY what is different about animals that makes it okay to use them as we please and NOT humans. If it's intelligence, then if I can find a mentally retarted person as intelligent as a cow, they would HAVE to be okay with that person being used for food too, or they're a hypocrite.
So really, almost ALL arguments against veganism are NOT logically consistent, making them hypocrites or simply having a completely terrible world view, like that it IS okay to hunt humans and animals. That's a logically consistent view, just most people would agree it's crazy, and it also is NOT moral even if you'd accept the same happening to you. Might makes right is not morality.
@@eldenvedetta635 well said 🌱
@@billyvonderburg7351 Appreciate it, friend. Glad we are for the rights of living beings!
Your patience amazes me Ed. This guy keeps changing the subject and going round in circles. He should listen as much as he talks.
“we're the best animals.” We're LITERALLY the worst!
Agree !
Hell yeah... We are the only animals who have the "ability" to destroy other species with our so called intelligence. It doesn't make us the best.
+Tomas: yes !
we're the best animals, while were single handedly killing out entire planet
lmao, leftys in self-hating shocker
Ed: Ahh ok...
Translation: ‘bullshit man’ 😂😂.
I reckon this guy is actually in love with Ed. ‘Ah yeah I agree with you 100% man’, next breath ‘we need meat and sweet potatoes ONLY’ the logic is strong in this one.
“Stop harming animals then we can talk” Ed can you like marry me .
MCVE III big facts
@Butt Scratcher No need to be protected, women can face their shit on their own.
I need to meet more vegan women:( Are they only on UA-cam?
MCVE III how are we harming animals any worse when you’re literally eating and exploiting them, please elaborate
Butt Scratcher we aren’t comparable to a lion because they do it out of necessity, we do it merely for taste
I love debates with people that actually have to capacity to engage in the debate properly.
Everyone ragging on this guy, but at least he was having a go... That's what is needed, has an argument and willing to go back and forth... He gets most of his info from sitting on the toilet reading magazines but still better then most people getting their back up...
Society needs a good cleanup of people like this. A good flush down the toilet for humanity. Floating Waste.
i am sure you are not as perfect as you think
Absolutely, the people who seek to engage and do so in a respectful manner should be commended. He conceded many points to Ed throughout the conversation that shows he isn't mentally rigid. He's doing the Snake Diet and engaging with fasting so he's already outside of the normal paradigm. He just needs to be exposed to more information on the science of WFPB to tip him over to our side. I wish Ed had pressed him on the health aspect. People who "know" something is missing from a vegan diet can never seem to point out what that is. People who are scared of supplements but are happy to eat animal fat loaded with PAH's, PCBs, Dioxins, and other persistent pollutants and contaminants - simply because they don't know these things even exist. If vegan activists begin pointing this out, I think it'd be quite beneficial. Sure, if you want to get everything missing from animal products, you'll need to throw down some Creatine, Carnitine, and Algal Omega 3's for preformed omega 3 fatty acids - but think of all the literal poison you don't eat in the process.
Raise your hand if you're vegan and you're defending this guy -- no? Didn't think so.
@@harveyplantharvester1502 I've been vegan for over 3 years...The us vs them doesn't work because we all were them at some point in our lives. The fact that the rationalizations are so predictable is a good thing, because we all used to believe the same things, yet here we are now. I completely understand your frustration, but watch the outcomes ed gets with his measured, friendly techniques. When we feel like burning it all to the ground, we just gotta ask ourselves, "What Would Earthling Ed Do"
Dr. Wareham, 104 year old vegan.
Wish I could upvote this
Yes! He's also a retired heart surgeon. I'm pretty sure he has seen all the effects of animal product consumption with that profession.
The longest lived person in the history of the world was a French lady who ate meat all the time.
Hom Jay Dinshah, 66 year old vegan, died 2000
Good you mention one. But i am sure you know how many alot of old folks out there who ate meat for years and yet live much more longer.
The truth is you can't change the food chain.
58:36:
the amount of time 2 people have to have a discussion about veganism until someone drops the ultimate finisher:
"hey rhinos, how are we gonna stop this alien invasion?"
a real hero.
Dude had lost before he’d even begun 😂 Every time he started to make a silly point you could almost see Ed going through his list of responses to daft questions from non-vegans 😂
The point when the guy looked away and Ed looked directly at the camera and gave a cheeky eyebrow raise made me chuckle. Saying “We’ve all heard this argument before, and we all know what I’m about to say!” just by raising his eyebrows is god level veganism 😂💚🌱
Bro you’re a vegan don’t act superior you’re a soyboy
starts at 24:33 for the curious
Almost became vegan but you used 3 crying laughing emoji in a row, sorrrrrryyyy I was just about to get there 🤷♂️
30 year vegan, I've never supplemented anything.. js 😉
Awesome!!
VABULOUS 🌱
Wow that's amazing! But i'm curious about B12. Do yiu consume vegan products that contain it? Do you drink unfiltered water from underground rivers or does your body make it?
LoniB *Vegan Adventures* - But you're not a bodybuilder are you?
@@alicesshelter9719 we drink from an underground well, yes :)
Can you do a follow up? I'm curious to see what he's done
My thoughts exactly. Joe Cariati, if you see this then tell us what happened with you.
He sticked to eating meat, there
aleksandar toza nope
Him: "I like you.."
Ed: "I wish I could say the same" xD xD Dying xD
Talking to non-vegans in the manner that Ed does is essential. I had a great conversation with a hunter this past week and as long as you remain open/empathetic to what they say… you can always place seeds of thought in their minds that wouldn’t otherwise have been there. Never aim to make them vegan on the spot, but give people a different way to view these issues.
I am in my 50's and I'm so much healthier than I have been in decades.
You look great too!
@@isaidwhatisaid8470 Thank you.
@@charliemorrison8168 I hope your eating meat 🥩
@@jordonsky Not for almost 10 years now.
Dude is talking about sustainability and he’s not eating for 2-3 days at a time? Excuse the hell out of me that sounds harder than choosing an Apple over a dead animal. Am I crazy? Did I walk into the twilight zone?
Don’t knock it before you try it
Fasting is a health choice with many benefits, going vegan is a choice in what you eat with no proven health benefits compared other healthy diets
You’re not crazy, just uneducated
ThePeePeePooPooMan I don’t think vegans do it for health I think it’s a values/morals thing.
I think the reason people don’t like vegans is that almost everyone supports and believes in animal rights, they don’t want to cause undue suffering to any animal of any kind. Vegans take that extra step.
That’s why people try to diminish veganism. “If you don’t buy the chicken, it died for nothing!” It’s because we can’t face the fact we would rather have pleasure (meat) than live according to our values.
Jay Middleton plant lives matter too
ThePeePeePooPooMan nah, not really. Not at all.
The mindset we are better...is exactly why we aren't. Shameful..
Chelsie Hull truth
Could not agree more
Chelsie Hull L...........M...........A...........O uhhhhh no mam😂 to you maybe but to other people no.....just nope
Ryan Stanfield so human beings thinking we aren't better isn't damaging in many ways...or hasn't been throughout history. Wait till we destroy everything with that mindset and then think, oops...we've fucked everything up.
Chelsie Hull lol were already destroyimg everything ITS GONNA HAPPEN REGARDLESS when we consume consume consume consume and rince wash and repeat yeah everythings gonna go to shit but ITS NOT gonna be the fault of "somebody eating meat" lol
I think it always, in every single debate, boils down to a lack of empathy. Most people love meat more than they care about the animal dying. That's why I think right now, introducing cultured meat into the mainstream is by far the most effective way of going about ending animal suffering. Hopefully we will evolve to be more empathetic towards non-human animals eventually, but what I take from all these debates is that we're far from being there - maybe in 4 or 5 generations in the West, probably in hundreds of years on a global scale (and that's being optimistic)
Lol no empathy is the vegan argument, there is efficiency and arguably better nutrients in the meat. We are evolved to be able to eat meat and there’s certain types of people in our ancestors who ate meat
Both of these guys were respectful and understanding, and I love that.
Nah he's trash... Look at how many f bombs he threw at Ed... And there are moments where he seem to lose his shit...
Taj čovek je lovac, a lovci su psihopate. Iako su se obojica trudili da budu korektni jedan prema drugom, to je bio jako neprijatan razgovor.
“Eating meat makes you the best person you can be.” WOW. This guy haha. He's been lied to so hard
Maybe vegans are the ones being lied to.. hard..
@@iowkey_9339 you people don't seem to get it.... It doesn't take that long on a vegan diet (a healthy one) to realize that all the animal products you've been eating your whole life have been ruining your health.. I started noticing significant change in about a month and a half, some people feel it within a month. And there are loads of people who have made 360° changes to their blood values in just a couple of weeks. Imagine if for years you'd been told that you have to take nasty drugs for the rest of your life. Now call me crazy but I dont think anyone actually likes the idea of taking drugs... People take drugs because they're sick. Now imagine if you tried a diet and suddenly all the "claims" behind that diet we're true, wouldn't you try to convince others to do the same?... There are countless people who have switched to a whole foods plant based diet and significantly treated or reversed their diabetes and/or heart disease. Now if there's a diet that can get people off of their medication and get them back on their feet, living fulfilling happy lives, shouldn't that be the default diet until proven otherwise?.....
Lels Derp I think you mean 180°, not 360° changes?
I recognize that most people use the "180°" term, but when I look at angles, 180° would be a straight line :/
If you're facing a point turn 360°, you're facing the exact same way (i.e. no change). If you turn 180°, you're facing away, signifying that it's a complete change in direction
Hates -isms but loves species-ism
So true!
There's a 100 year old marathon runner who completely attributes this to becoming vegan in his 70s. Also, my friend's son Jake Shields has been a vegan MMA fighter for decades
Why the hell would you want to be 100 years old?
@@bizznick444joe7 I want to feel good while I'm alive, regardless of how long I live. I want to enjoy this life. Being vegan helps me do that. Has nothing to do with the age or anyone else. Eating plant based and running trails every day makes my life so much more enjoyable. My partner eats meat, drinks beer every day, doesn't really exercise and is super stoked on life. That's what works for him