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The problem with this is that it opens a precedent. I really think we should start preparing for more of these situations to happen. Lawyer up, understand a bit more about our rights to freedom of speech and study solid responses to tell the officers. I'm really mad at this situation.
In criminology, public-order crime is defined as "crime which involves acts that interfere with the operations of society and the ability of people to function efficiently". If I'm ever accused with some bullshit like that that I don't know the meaning of I will ask the officers to define the offense as I don't understand what I'm being accused of. And confirm with an internet search. We can't be shut down just because of feelings.
@Matt Pretorius following on from what happened here, I would say YES the police 🚨 would have to close down the Murder Factory‼️ Great Point - Well Made 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 👩🏻💻
imagine someone will make a game where you can slaughter pigs,cow etc... and people will be get offended 100% or hate the game why someone will make game like this? but other side of the coin that sad reality...
Do the officers not realise their actions have caused a dangerous precedent? They have just reaffirmed to someone that they can shut down anything they don’t agree with under the pretence of being offended.
Yes, very much so. What is the number of the local police station there. Are there any kfc, McDonald’s or Burger King ads at bud stops of anything. We all should phone the police and tell them the pictures being displayed of murdered cows and chickens by these companies are highly offensive and are causing us all harassment alarm and distress.
@@smotty2hotty I completely agree. We should all do this. I'm offended & distressed by the local cattle mart here also that every Monday have truck loads of innocent animals being sold off as "stock" left in these trucks for hours on end. I can hear their crys at night from this mart. It breaks my heart.
They need the police to stop making up laws. Causing harassment, distress or alarm is not an offence under the public order legislation. It requires threatening or abusive behaviour and intent. The police are wrong.
@@nerdyali4154 "Disorderly behaviour" is also included. There need not be an actual complainant, the offence is complete if the behaviour could be seen by someone of 'reasonable firmness' to cause them alarm, harassment or distress. So the act of showing kids in the street images of animals being killed could very much amount to an offence under S5. He mentioned people could "look away" but that is irrelevant. The police are not in the wrong, it's been the law since 1986 (though previously amended to remove 'insulting' for the wording). Just because this guy is making a moral point, doesn't mean he's in the right or that it's not against the law.
@@ultra_vires I get that, I just think it’s kinda... dumb. If a person is a predator meant to eat animals, why can’t they look at animals being killed, something they should be doing in the wild? If a kid sees an animal being killed in public, and there is not anything wrong with killing animals, I just don’t understand how a display of something that is not wrong would result in that being wrong. If killing animals is not wrong, showing it shouldn’t be, either. God forbid a kid realizes where there meal comes from. Like, an animal literally died to form one of many burgers, blended up with their friends, a kid eats it, and they see that animal die... what is worse, seeing an animal die, or dying and getting eaten and problem thrown out halfway by a kid?
Well thats the problem, we dont have it, its a disgrace how our police enforce the "communications act" in this country, anything can be "offensive" its a fucking joke. If the TRUTH is offensive.... Uh, deal with it?
I'm not a vegan, but this guy has a right to protest without being harassed by the police. If only they were this enthusiastic about responding to actual crime...
Yeah i love meat but he wasn’t being a dick trying to force Veganism onto people he’s totally got a right and i think people should see what happens to the animals but I hate people abusing their power and that special at the beginning was a prime example, the police at the end I think actually felt a little bit bad when they realised he was a good guy.
Exactly when someone robs a store the cops do nothing but they rather harrass vegans for protesting... They should be stopping real crimes not harassing people protesting....
I know there's no proof but I wouldn't be surprised if that first PCSO who was the 'offended one' and got their bully brigade to close shop. The male officer shouldn't lie about saying its a LAW that's he's broken.
The way she radioed it in with "he's kind of refusing to speak to us because we are PCSOs" to make it seem like he was being abusive was not cool. Probably due for some "retraining".
How dare the cops enforce a well established law that's been around for decades. Kids should have this pushed in their face when out shopping! Shame on the cops for standing up for a shred of decency!
@@ultra_vires ahh clearly you don't know what you're talking about in the slightest. Can I ask what 'well established' law they are supposedly enforcing. If you are going to say it fallls under a section of the public order act then I'd suggest you look up the law more thoroughly. Causing harassment, alarm or distress is not actually illegal unless it is directed at people intentionally. Otherwise as the person in the video stated anyone could be offended by anything even though there was no intention by that person to cause such feelings.
That... actually... might be a doable thing. I mean... I could write an "AI" program that watches TV... and when it detects a animal product, it dials a phone-number and leaves an automated message... The wheels in this rabbit's brain are turning...
You are aware that most of Friedrich Nietzsche's teachings (particular in his book "Beyond good and evil) relate to creating your own values instead of allowing the values of others to influence you, right? But if you had your way, you'd impose your values regarding dietary choices onto the rest of the world. So in reality, Friedrich Nietzsche's teachings on creating one's own values is in stark contrast to your desire of imposing your vegan values onto everyone else. So maybe Friedrich Nietzsche isn't the best person for you to be quoting.
@@lonelycake4114, yeah &? He still created his own values just like he teaches others to do. So what his particular values were aren't really relevant. What's relevant was his desire to create those values he had for himself.
This is madness. Absolutely nonsensical. Being offended by a screen showing the way these animals get into your plate does not make you victim of a crime. Thank you Joey for standing up for them. Much love and keep doing what you do
Maybe someone running a restaurant near by didn't want the competition for the short time Joey was giving away Beyond Burgers. Maybe they called the Police.
Joey- Maybe next time you show slaughterhouse videos, you can have a screen showing people harvesting plants for us to eat. You could ask them- "Which do you want to pay for?"
@Adam Mooney I’m a ‘lefty’ and you’re talking shit mate. Section 5 is the most abused piece of legislation ever used. Liberal Lefties like me believe in freedom and liberty, it’s the righties who stamp all over people’s rights, discriminate and hate freedom.
No its the fact he is breaking the law in his actions specifically the Indecent Displays (Control) act of 1981 which can carry a term of 2yrs in prison... as this law is very rarely breached it often is the case the street officers themselves cannot recite it and thus he mentions discretion, given there are 10's of thousands of laws out there I actually would be impressed if they could cite it. As for the vegan mentality here, so your fine trying to protect animal welfare but have absolutely no concern about child abuse, any minor walking past who sees them images could have psychological payback which may last hours or in rarer cases a lifetime, young minds are not ready or conditioned to be exposed to these images and this guy or any of you have no right to shove such content into a child's mind, that is why images and films for official public viewing have to carry age restrictions if the content deems it needs to....
@@TruthTortoise81 Think you need to read the act I expressed it falls foul of, do not shoot the messenger, you simply cannot show these images in public especially where there is the risk of minors seeing them. It's funny how that every other industry (excluding the exemptions listed in the act) and public service has to adhere to strict guidelines including the BBC of what they can show, what time and what warnings need to be implicated none of which this bloke on the street bothered to consider or implicate, had he set up a booth that obscured the images from accidental viewing with pre-warnings to those that wished to watch it then that would have satisfied the act, in fact because man is a curious being, the booth would have got more attention then his completely open method here. There is absolutely no Irony in what I said, there are similar acts for nudity too, your take on it would be they see their own naked body so what is the problem as that is how you are trying to justify your response, just because this is how the animals are legally slaughtered does not give the right to publicly show them. I will end by saying that said images I saw on the TV in the video were not all from registered UK slaughter methods or following UK animal welfare legislation for which we have some of the highest global standards... all imports have to meet these standards too... it is clear the footage is misleading in that context and is inferring these practices as shown are what occur in products on UK shelves, some of the footage did not represent that, had he used the correct footage it wouldn't have the desired impact would it so there is deliberate misleading content.
I'm a cop and those cops were properly out of their depth. Didn't have the common sense or experience to assess what was going on and allow you to continued! That was embarrassing
@@joez3706 Which is irrelevant to their actual actions and decision. If they are polite and beat the crap out of you it's still messed. If they are polite and censor you when you are not doing anything illegal or harmful, it's still messed.
@@joez3706 Listened with kindness (kind of - the first woman started off unnecessarily arsey), but made the wrong decision without logic or consideration of the peaceful context.
I don't think that's fair to say. It's fair to not want to see it. Not saying you should or do care but you would get far less backlash and a lot more understanding if you weren't on the attack.
@@cheryl3126 I wouldn't be surprised the least. I couldn't catch much of what she was saying, but enough to understand what was going on, including her gestures and physical behaviour. These are the same people who claim not to have enough manpower to tackle crimes, the real ones like rapes, burglaries etc...). What a disgrace this country has become.
“999 what’s your emergency?” “I’d like to report someone eating a dead body” Imagine how that’d go. Joey you handled it really well and sensibly. Talk about triggered meat eaters.
2:43 She says that if someone is alarm, harassed or distressed then its a crime. *NO IT ISN'T* The important bit she has left out of the law she is quoting is if the actions or words are threatening or abusive.
"theyve been a victim of a crime".... lol there you have it guys, having your feelings hurt is a crime in the UK, jesus wept this country is a joke sometimes.
Police: I've worked here for 6 years and I've never seen pictures of screen like that. Me & my friends: **Literally, 50 feet away holding laptops and screens of the same footage** Police are a joke - section 5 is an excuse to take people's freedom of speech away.
can't believe she compared showing animal slaughter to racism and homophobia. Racism and homophobia is literally illegal. Showing people where their "food" is coming from, is not.
@@TruthTortoise81 Exactly, the PCSO was just offended cause she's a lil fatty herself. She's just tryna eat her burger. Bet our mans had the best time in court, probably got a fat settlement too for getting his rights violated.
@@morphkogan8627 Well in special circumstances state-licensed killing is allowed by mililtary special forces. So that is an example of something that is legal but wouldn't be allowed to be shown to the public.
Meat is food without quotation marks. Stop being a baby like this man-child who runs this channel. Humans are intelligent because of meat and cooking it.
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so if I see a butchers window with hanging dead animal baby body's all cut up its ok. but if I show the animals before they get to the butchers its not wtf. I would of just said how can are food make us alarmed and distressed then it cant be food if it dose.
I think the police have better things to do than piling someone up for this , I wouldn't like to see any sort of animal being killed for food and I wouldn't like my children or grandchildren seeing this we don't need educating on this matter . We were brought up on this food . After all if I want to change to a vegan eater I will but seeing these animals being killed won't make any difference and he said e don't have to look if we don't to but it will be to late if we've just seen it .
@@jeansmith7202 maybe it won‘t make a difference for you but a lot of people have never seen this before and they will start to think. Why would you choose animal cruelty when there is enough other food out there. That‘s the whole point. Only because we ate meat doesn‘t mean we still have to eat it to thrive
Maybe we should all just calling about every non-vegan thing we see telling them we are offended. See how they like that. I am offended everytime I see somebody drinking cows milk, wearing fur, eating dead animals I could go on forever
The world we live in is so sad! It breaks my heart to know that people pay for these, but refuse to watch it and face reality. They have proved that humans are nothing but liars and hypocrites! And the arguments of the police were the worst to make him shutdown the screen smh.
The first lot were PCSO , they have no more legal right than you or I. Its disgusting that they come up to you making more of a scene than the screens. The footage is legal , what you are doing is legal and bloody important. Keep Going , I've been vegan for 3 years because of you and others in the community . Thank you for opening my eyes
The 1 person who got offended might not even have seen it. McDonald’s worker: there’s some vegan outside showing Slaughter footage. Manager: then called the police and say you’re offended.
*Trillions* tortured and slaughtered Or one person offended Humans have gotta be really primitive for that logic to ever succeed The legal system has a long way to go
As a species we are dumber than dumb. In fact id say most animals have a superior awareness and compassion compared to the average human. Not all of us are like that
I think people are offended for all the right reasons. However the one person who complained here is probibly the person who makes the most money out of the meat trade.
That sentence can be wrongly interpreted. I can get footage of women being raped mutilated killed, and I whould be arrested in public for showing that. So... whats wrong in showing humans being killed, head removed, fingers cutter? Still an abuse that needs to be shown to the world. How's that im going to get arrested to show my point and he is not? See my point?. The freedom of "showing" your point may not be aceptable in society even if the points are valid.
@UCvAe2yDM7K1yPN8Pt1Vd08g sure now hipocrisia its the answer for fundamental opinions :) thats how we know that you are extremist. No actual fundamental points.
Yep Police are useless, they avoid real crime and my conclusion is because they are lazy, disorganised or not bright, perhaps combination. Just my observation but police do more harm than good in reality from my experience.
I just don’t understand how they have all the resources in the world for peaceful protests but can’t go to someone’s house right away when there’s been an actual crime like assault, robbery or murder? They somehow take hours to turn up for that 🤔
then i suggest you stay home and dont go near a city. stop being flippent, there is a diffrences between some one busking and it not being to your likeing and a man showing animals being killed
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well its better to keep your cool when dealing with "authority" even with renta cops like this lady who's not even a real police officer. but she can call the police and cause a real problem. which she did, she keeps saying ppl are offended when its really just her.
@@mimiboom3183 I consider myself quite a rational person but if I were in some of the situations Joey has been in, I would've lost my temper, including this one. I may be wrong but I think you are insinuating that the original commenter is being judgemental because of his past, and I think you are wrong.
Wow she sure got offended, weird that she couldn't tell you if it was illegal or not, really she was the one harassing you.... Keep up the good fight Joey 💪
Offence is subjective and she showed how easily people get offended at nothing: oh, you don't like PCSOs... I found her attitude offensive, where do I get her shutdown?
"Dont you dare tell me the truth about what I eat. I would rather live a lie. It makes me sad to see animals die but not to be the reason they are dying." Hypocrites.
Nobody is getting harassed by seeing a slaughtered pig, they probably just got done eating one. Ridiculous. Also, they have no idea what harassment actually is. If you want harassment, the animals are harassed(to put it VERY lightly) and then murdered. Showing people what actually happens is enlightening and can spark positive change, if you get upset over this you should be upset. Get upset, and then do something about it, put the knife down. I went vegan on July 4th, 2020 after being a vegetarian for a year. I realized what I was doing and stopped. Not that it was related but I've also been sober for 7 months, April 19th, 2020. I've never been healthier and my body thanks me every day. I've always been an animal lover, but my actions weren't aligned. Choose vegan, go plant based. 🌱❤
Yeah, it's all bullshit just because the government cares more about money than morality. Abusing and exploiting animals, completely legal but exposing and showing it to educate people is somehow illegal.
As a student many many years ago our class went to a slaughter house I threw up it was horrendous did put me off bacon butties for a while, but if you truely believe life is sacred all life is sacred so salad is off the menu as well have a good and long life just breathing, oops breathing is not allowed as you destroy oxygen
THIS Hypocrisy is REAL - No different than someone who is imprisoned for acts of animal abuse / then getting fed ABUSED ANIMALS in the place they are incarcerated
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 Wild animals in nature rape and kill each other, eat rival's children etc. etc. Does that mean there's nothing wrong with it? ...This appeal to nature is a complete logical fallacy in this context. We humans have moral agency, a choice and better alternatives. Animals in nature have none of these.
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 Humans have no need to consume animal products, hence there is no moral justification for abusing and killing sentient beings when it can easily be avoided. Once again, we have the moral agency, the choice and the better alternatives to do so. So, if we have no need for it and its purely done for taste, convenience and tradition in today's modern society, how is it not comparable to rape anyway, the idea that just because one *can* exploit and kill animals one has the right to do so even if its unnecessary? Might does not make right, and going by the logic of "we can eat meat, therefore we will, at the expense of innocents, even though it can be avoided, with total disregard for the *victims*" therefore is equivalent to "I like sex, and I'm able to take it if I want it - even though there is no actual need to do it in terms of survival etc., and absolutely no justification - with total disregard for the victims".
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 "Is a whale morally corrupt for consuming plankton" No, what part of *we as humans have a choice, moral agency and better alternatives readily available* do you not understand? *That* is why it is wrong for you to victimize certain animals that you discriminate based on arbitrary norms and conditioning. We don't treat dogs or cats or guinea pigs with respect and love without cutting their throat for a sandwich because "as though they are people". Vegans get upset and angry at the exploitation and suffering of all animals just like you (hopefully) and other people do when they see cats or dogs suffering at the hands of humans. The difference between us is that vegans are actually consistent in their indignation.
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I am no vegan, I never will be. But this Fella has every single right to be there and show his Point of View! If you are a Snowflake, and are 'Offended' then just walk FUC*ING BY!!!!!! Absolutely disgusting PLOD have time to spend on this - while Granny 200 yards away, is having her Head caved in, in a Burglary, and will be completely Ignored!!!!
Whoever called the cops, you could not get any worse as a human being- literally out there trying to save lives and you call the police on them! What a person huh? Thank you Joey, your work is incredible
@@paulshort1027 no that was the reason because he would put it on after she told him not to but it what he showed that made her realise how heartless he was that he wanted to show her that stuff to get her to convert...all well and good seeing it in the street you can ignore it but forcing someone to watch it in there own home
Freedom of speech is the key factor here. If these police forced him to be silenced because one person didn't like it, then they could set the precedent of NEVER allowing slaughterhouse footage to ever be displayed for fear of offending an individual. Dumb.
When did the police become the feeling police tell them to do one what a joke this Country is, I always thought we lived in a free country not a dictatorship but that’s what is coming to what a joke.
Manchester man they don’t ever like the truth no matter what it is. That PCSO needed more training I’m shocked at her lack of knowledge on this sort of thing. Ahhhh those male officers I couldn’t have stayed calm their logic is messed up. Don’t let them ever stop you
ARTICLE 10 Freedom of expression 1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This Article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises. 2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary. www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Convention_ENG.pdf
I am not a vegan at all, and don't like what he is showing , BUT he does have a right and a point.. one person complains and they come out in force... Maybe someone should complain about that singing rubbish..
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It has been shown on side of buses & Front of Arndale centre in past.
Offence is a crime !! I am offended by Homelessness !!
Good job for keeping your cool joey but twist the strings on your mask the put it round your ears will keep the mask on better.
@Rachel Alice go vegan world campaigns. 🐷
KFC manager Calls Cops !!
If watching how your ‘food’ is made offends you enough to call the police, maybe you should stop paying for it to happen!
watching how my bacon is made doesn't bother me at all, people is too dumb to not think about where it comes from.
* people are
The problem with this is that it opens a precedent. I really think we should start preparing for more of these situations to happen. Lawyer up, understand a bit more about our rights to freedom of speech and study solid responses to tell the officers. I'm really mad at this situation.
Keep a good work Joe
In criminology, public-order crime is defined as "crime which involves acts that interfere with the operations of society and the ability of people to function efficiently".
If I'm ever accused with some bullshit like that that I don't know the meaning of I will ask the officers to define the offense as I don't understand what I'm being accused of. And confirm with an internet search. We can't be shut down just because of feelings.
So if you walk past a slaughterhouse then call in that you are distressed about it, then the entire slaughterhouse has to stop?
@Matt Pretorius following on from what happened here, I would say YES the police 🚨 would have to close down the Murder Factory‼️
Great Point - Well Made 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
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I wish that were true
@Adam Mooney Absolutely...extra crispy bacon pls!
@@JohnWick-hb3ftsuch intelligence ...
@@pigstonwidget Thank you!
I am surprised that the police can spare time to deal with phone calls from offended persons.
of course they can spare time to deal with pettiness since they don’t respond to actual crimes
they're community support officers not police officers. That's the entire reason
Community police officers being arrogant and forceful we do not need. We need community police on our streets who are tolerant and helpful.
It pisses me off that people are offended by how their food is made to the point of calling the police but they still contribute to it😡😡 Like why???
Killing innocent animals: Legal Showing them killed: Illegal Hypocrisy at it’s best 💯
bilkul sahi💯💯
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I am just waiting until someone calls the cops on me for eating some beans.
Weird people: "It's TOo vEgAn! i FeeL oFfENded!"
Me: ????
Let's apply the same logic to slaughterhouses: call the cops and say it's offensive.
imagine someone will make a game where you can slaughter pigs,cow etc... and people will be get offended 100% or hate the game why someone will make game like this? but other side of the coin that sad reality...
Its actually ridiculous, hes giving away free food and showing people what is legal standard practice in the UK. Hypocrisy is rife in the world.
Do the officers not realise their actions have caused a dangerous precedent? They have just reaffirmed to someone that they can shut down anything they don’t agree with under the pretence of being offended.
Yes, very much so. What is the number of the local police station there. Are there any kfc, McDonald’s or Burger King ads at bud stops of anything. We all should phone the police and tell them the pictures being displayed of murdered cows and chickens by these companies are highly offensive and are causing us all harassment alarm and distress.
absolutely no precedent has been created. Only courts can create a precedent.
@@smotty2hotty I completely agree. We should all do this. I'm offended & distressed by the local cattle mart here also that every Monday have truck loads of innocent animals being sold off as "stock" left in these trucks for hours on end. I can hear their crys at night from this mart. It breaks my heart.
@@VeganDog Street precedent.
@@druma9691 What the hell is a street precedent?
Clearly the UK needs to change their laws concerning free speech
They need the police to stop making up laws. Causing harassment, distress or alarm is not an offence under the public order legislation. It requires threatening or abusive behaviour and intent. The police are wrong.
@@nerdyali4154 "Disorderly behaviour" is also included. There need not be an actual complainant, the offence is complete if the behaviour could be seen by someone of 'reasonable firmness' to cause them alarm, harassment or distress.
So the act of showing kids in the street images of animals being killed could very much amount to an offence under S5. He mentioned people could "look away" but that is irrelevant. The police are not in the wrong, it's been the law since 1986 (though previously amended to remove 'insulting' for the wording).
Just because this guy is making a moral point, doesn't mean he's in the right or that it's not against the law.
@@ultra_vires
I get that, I just think it’s kinda... dumb. If a person is a predator meant to eat animals, why can’t they look at animals being killed, something they should be doing in the wild?
If a kid sees an animal being killed in public, and there is not anything wrong with killing animals, I just don’t understand how a display of something that is not wrong would result in that being wrong. If killing animals is not wrong, showing it shouldn’t be, either.
God forbid a kid realizes where there meal comes from. Like, an animal literally died to form one of many burgers, blended up with their friends, a kid eats it, and they see that animal die... what is worse, seeing an animal die, or dying and getting eaten and problem thrown out halfway by a kid?
Well thats the problem, we dont have it, its a disgrace how our police enforce the "communications act" in this country, anything can be "offensive" its a fucking joke.
If the TRUTH is offensive.... Uh, deal with it?
I'm not a vegan, but this guy has a right to protest without being harassed by the police. If only they were this enthusiastic about responding to actual crime...
Yeah i love meat but he wasn’t being a dick trying to force Veganism onto people he’s totally got a right and i think people should see what happens to the animals but I hate people abusing their power and that special at the beginning was a prime example, the police at the end I think actually felt a little bit bad when they realised he was a good guy.
Exactly when someone robs a store the cops do nothing but they rather harrass vegans for protesting...
They should be stopping real crimes not harassing people protesting....
The first three people harrassing him where the covid marshalls lol.
I know there's no proof but I wouldn't be surprised if that first PCSO who was the 'offended one' and got their bully brigade to close shop. The male officer shouldn't lie about saying its a LAW that's he's broken.
@@G-ra-ha-m Amen
I'm offended by the McDonalds,KFC and Dairy ads!!
Does that mean I can complain and they will take it down??
Spot on!!
Yesss
Maybe we should complain? He who shouts the loudest!
Vegans should start calling these people about being offended of KFC
True
Looks like she personally had a problem with it, I bet no one actually complained.
The way she radioed it in with "he's kind of refusing to speak to us because we are PCSOs" to make it seem like he was being abusive was not cool. Probably due for some "retraining".
You have to give credit where it is due, she was very patient with him.
@Dark Flex no
@@russelllukenbill she's a karen
@@SNinjaQK she really wasn't. She was patient and quite nice to him.
Well done for standing your ground. Can I have permission to use this on my channel please.
Big fan of your chan, we need people to thumb this comment up so Joey can see it. Maybe use his contact email on his youtube?
@@SupermotoZach I would love to see a Crimebodge crossover
Awesome work getting this out there Bodge! 👍🏻
How dare the cops enforce a well established law that's been around for decades.
Kids should have this pushed in their face when out shopping! Shame on the cops for standing up for a shred of decency!
@@ultra_vires ahh clearly you don't know what you're talking about in the slightest. Can I ask what 'well established' law they are supposedly enforcing. If you are going to say it fallls under a section of the public order act then I'd suggest you look up the law more thoroughly. Causing harassment, alarm or distress is not actually illegal unless it is directed at people intentionally. Otherwise as the person in the video stated anyone could be offended by anything even though there was no intention by that person to cause such feelings.
I'm gonna call them every time I see a meat or dairy advert.
Yep! And every time they advertise meat too.
That... actually... might be a doable thing. I mean... I could write an "AI" program that watches TV... and when it detects a animal product, it dials a phone-number and leaves an automated message... The wheels in this rabbit's brain are turning...
It took the police 2 weeks to come round when my mum's house got burgled.
It was probably joey doing the burglary
But if it had been burger'd, that would be alright!
@@jeffhalbo96 ooooff
Dont worry mate ..theyll be round your house mob handed when it comes to mean tweets..FACT.!! Ive lost all respect for them
that was quick did you know them.
People don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
yess
Whatever happened to if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything
Double standards, nothing new
You are aware that most of Friedrich Nietzsche's teachings (particular in his book "Beyond good and evil) relate to creating your own values instead of allowing the values of others to influence you, right? But if you had your way, you'd impose your values regarding dietary choices onto the rest of the world. So in reality, Friedrich Nietzsche's teachings on creating one's own values is in stark contrast to your desire of imposing your vegan values onto everyone else. So maybe Friedrich Nietzsche isn't the best person for you to be quoting.
@@JW-hw5hg
He was a vegetarian thou 😏
@@lonelycake4114, yeah &? He still created his own values just like he teaches others to do. So what his particular values were aren't really relevant. What's relevant was his desire to create those values he had for himself.
MEAT EATER: Seeing cruelty on a screen offends me.
ALSO MEATE EATER: Paying for cruelty DOESN’T offend me.
That’s MEAT EATER logic for you!
Plot twist: they were vegan, lol
This is madness. Absolutely nonsensical. Being offended by a screen showing the way these animals get into your plate does not make you victim of a crime. Thank you Joey for standing up for them. Much love and keep doing what you do
I bet you would feel the same if you saw a tree being. Cut down LMAO!
@ElvAnon You certainly aren’t knowledgeable. It takes 3 minutes to cause asphyxiation. It’s all the plants your eating.
@@byagency8607 would you stab a dog instead of a cabbage?
Maybe someone running a restaurant near by didn't want the competition for the short time Joey was giving away Beyond Burgers.
Maybe they called the Police.
Joey- Maybe next time you show slaughterhouse videos, you can have a screen showing people harvesting plants for us to eat. You could ask them-
"Which do you want to pay for?"
Being offended is a crime now?! Oh boy.
Welcome to the new world order
The FEELINGS enforcement police..?
It is Scotland apparently
@Adam Mooney I’m a ‘lefty’ and you’re talking shit mate. Section 5 is the most abused piece of legislation ever used. Liberal Lefties like me believe in freedom and liberty, it’s the righties who stamp all over people’s rights, discriminate and hate freedom.
The only thing offending me is that shit music they are playing in the background.
Happy to fund animal abuse but “distressed” about actually seeing what they’re paying for?
Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
@Henrijs Rozenkopfs Relax vegan Hitler.
@@ChessmasterHex do you eat pork?
@@Alan-hq6ei No because I'm a vegan, good bait though.
No its the fact he is breaking the law in his actions specifically the Indecent Displays (Control) act of 1981 which can carry a term of 2yrs in prison... as this law is very rarely breached it often is the case the street officers themselves cannot recite it and thus he mentions discretion, given there are 10's of thousands of laws out there I actually would be impressed if they could cite it.
As for the vegan mentality here, so your fine trying to protect animal welfare but have absolutely no concern about child abuse, any minor walking past who sees them images could have psychological payback which may last hours or in rarer cases a lifetime, young minds are not ready or conditioned to be exposed to these images and this guy or any of you have no right to shove such content into a child's mind, that is why images and films for official public viewing have to carry age restrictions if the content deems it needs to....
@@TruthTortoise81 Think you need to read the act I expressed it falls foul of, do not shoot the messenger, you simply cannot show these images in public especially where there is the risk of minors seeing them.
It's funny how that every other industry (excluding the exemptions listed in the act) and public service has to adhere to strict guidelines including the BBC of what they can show, what time and what warnings need to be implicated none of which this bloke on the street bothered to consider or implicate, had he set up a booth that obscured the images from accidental viewing with pre-warnings to those that wished to watch it then that would have satisfied the act, in fact because man is a curious being, the booth would have got more attention then his completely open method here.
There is absolutely no Irony in what I said, there are similar acts for nudity too, your take on it would be they see their own naked body so what is the problem as that is how you are trying to justify your response, just because this is how the animals are legally slaughtered does not give the right to publicly show them.
I will end by saying that said images I saw on the TV in the video were not all from registered UK slaughter methods or following UK animal welfare legislation for which we have some of the highest global standards... all imports have to meet these standards too... it is clear the footage is misleading in that context and is inferring these practices as shown are what occur in products on UK shelves, some of the footage did not represent that, had he used the correct footage it wouldn't have the desired impact would it so there is deliberate misleading content.
Offended about the showing of animal cruelty, but.....not offended by the actual cruelty of animal abuse!
Hey that's true
So long as they don't see it, it's fine
I'm a cop and those cops were properly out of their depth. Didn't have the common sense or experience to assess what was going on and allow you to continued! That was embarrassing
I thought they were very polite and patient.
@@joez3706 Which is irrelevant to their actual actions and decision.
If they are polite and beat the crap out of you it's still messed. If they are polite and censor you when you are not doing anything illegal or harmful, it's still messed.
I thought the cops were really good actually, and so was Joey as usual - I don't know how he does it.
@@HiddenStr3ngth it is relevant in that they were listening to him with kindness and did not beat him up.
@@joez3706 Listened with kindness (kind of - the first woman started off unnecessarily arsey), but made the wrong decision without logic or consideration of the peaceful context.
So the crime is ok but exposing the crime is not. This is beyond crazy. Thanks again, Joey ❤️🌱
Is she wearing a mask??
its not a crime if its legal
Welcome to 2020
@Dark Flex stay mad carnist
@@WiseandVegan agree that's what has happened unfortunately.
These women are upset because their illusions have been shattered. Keep going Joey!!!!!
Your completely right!
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 HuMAne SlaUgHteR
Delusional
@@Nikhil-ln9wn This fool goes around all over making embarassing comments and then deleting them
@@ConsciousBrosCommunity lol
You are super calm and firm when you are confronted. I wish I could be the same. Thank you dude for doing this 💪
They just don’t want their meat mirage destroyed. Keep exposing the truth, Joey!💚
@@Nick-1992-SRB Visual footage makes the difference for a lot of people
@@Nick-1992-SRB common sense is overpowered by cultural conditioning. The footage is a reality check for that.
I don't think that's fair to say.
It's fair to not want to see it.
Not saying you should or do care but you would get far less backlash and a lot more understanding if you weren't on the attack.
All the News every night is mostly showing pain and suffering of others....that is also distressing...should the news be shut off ?
nailed it
On the News they are not allowed to show dead bodies. Its all censored. Nanny authoritarian state.
Joey is right. Its so hypocritical that it is legal to do it yet it is not legal to show it.
yes.
Wow the hypocrisy. Keep doing it, keep being strong Joey!
💯💯🌱
I'm a meat eater but I fully appreciate this guy's argument about 'being offended'.
Yeah that sounds like it checks out
Sorry but you are not eating meat but animals ( correct word)
You are so right Joey
Go vegan ❤️
@@joellegoubin7975 it's meat from them,otherwise it would be maybe ,wood ? (if it was from a tree)
Imagine someone showing shortage of concentration camps during WWII and cops coming over saying "You can't show this, it's too offensive ".
I reckon the biddy who "complained" was a meat/dairy farmer or industry associated.
It was the rent a cop lady who called it in. There was no civilian complaint.
I doubt anyone complained! You can tell the woman's lying!
@@cheryl3126 I wouldn't be surprised the least. I couldn't catch much of what she was saying, but enough to understand what was going on, including her gestures and physical behaviour. These are the same people who claim not to have enough manpower to tackle crimes, the real ones like rapes, burglaries etc...). What a disgrace this country has become.
A karen farmer 😂
@@RoseRocket Exactly 🤣🤣
“999 what’s your emergency?”
“I’d like to report someone eating a dead body”
Imagine how that’d go. Joey you handled it really well and sensibly. Talk about triggered meat eaters.
Sv3rge was taken away in handcuffs last year for that.
@@mrsthatcher9815 wow didn't know that !!
To be fair police are usually vegans or veggies now. Soft in the head.
@@marmat5213 Living in alignment with their moral values, that's good. Do you?
2:43 She says that if someone is alarm, harassed or distressed then its a crime. *NO IT ISN'T* The important bit she has left out of the law she is quoting is if the actions or words are threatening or abusive.
I reckon the first CPSO was the “person” that reported it, not a member of the public
In a democracy, the majority would need to be offended...
Reckon your right.
Definitely
"theyve been a victim of a crime".... lol there you have it guys, having your feelings hurt is a crime in the UK, jesus wept this country is a joke sometimes.
Police: I've worked here for 6 years and I've never seen pictures of screen like that.
Me & my friends: **Literally, 50 feet away holding laptops and screens of the same footage**
Police are a joke - section 5 is an excuse to take people's freedom of speech away.
Her family are probably pig farmers.
can't believe she compared showing animal slaughter to racism and homophobia. Racism and homophobia is literally illegal. Showing people where their "food" is coming from, is not.
I know, unbelievable isn't it? I'm not convinced anyone complained. I think she was just triggered herself and made it up to flex her power.
Deep down she has ideals of a vegan,
most people do and they don’t realize it.
She literally has no argument, if he was showing how chewing gum was made it would be fine...
@@fearofaveganplanet8513 agree she was on a power trip and got fucked off when he said are you a real police officer.
the background "music" causes distress to people with tinnitus so go and shut it off.
Joey: What law am I breaking?
Law enforcer: [...] to be honest I've never seen this..
I can tell cognitive dissonance when I see it.
Yeah, she couldn't even answer the question so Joey should of been let go.
calling police make no god dam sens
@@TruthTortoise81 Exactly, the PCSO was just offended cause she's a lil fatty herself. She's just tryna eat her burger.
Bet our mans had the best time in court, probably got a fat settlement too for getting his rights violated.
@@TruthTortoise81, he actually was breaking the law under the Indecent Displays (Control) Act 1981.
www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/42
@@JW-hw5hg Provide legal definition of indecent. PRove how showing cruelty to animals is deemed indecent.
If its not illegal to do then how is it illegal to show?
Yeah, completely illogical. These pigs should be extra compasionate as it shows their species being tortured and killed unecessarily.
That argument doesn't quite work; what about when military are allowed to kill terrorists?
@@adamlee3333 what???
@@brendangray lmao
@@morphkogan8627 Well in special circumstances state-licensed killing is allowed by mililtary special forces. So that is an example of something that is legal but wouldn't be allowed to be shown to the public.
People do not have the right to NOT be offended! GO JOEY!
I had to read that a couple of times but you are so right!
Not according to the brainwashed police, it seems.
its 2020, a year when people get offended by their own "food". lol
Not just food- I got reported by having my sprinklers on accidentally on a non watering day here in Australia
Meat is food without quotation marks. Stop being a baby like this man-child who runs this channel. Humans are intelligent because of meat and cooking it.
@@carlysheree3130 omg for real?😂
@@best-qg5uj your comment is enough to prove humans aren’t intelligent 😂😂
@@best-qg5uj The world is going to be vegan sooner or later.
Your offsprings will be vegan.
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LOL She is the one who is offended and is abusing her power trying to silence you.
100% send her back to school ! Not to Bootcamp!
she cares more about one individual than thousands that are abused with her fizzy drink in her hands :D
You handled yourself very well, as always man.
These laws against hurting people's feelings are plain idiotic. I'm not even a vegetarian but this man shouldn't be prevented from making his point.
totally right just because someone claims to be offended it doesn't mean an offence is being committed it's bonkers
@@TruthTortoise81 if there is i want my three ex girlfriends arrested lol.
People scare to face truth...peoples are coward
It was the police women who was offended,totally pathetic ,
Pcso, not police, only power they have is to call the police 😂
so if I see a butchers window with hanging dead animal baby body's all cut up its ok.
but if I show the animals before they get to the butchers its not wtf.
I would of just said how can are food make us alarmed and distressed then it cant be food if it dose.
Exactly.
Imagine if the police had to deal with every offended vegan complaint of alarm and distress.
Yeah because its our natural diet lol
@S W That's a presumptive statement. I don't support abortion unless it's for a very serious reason.
Classic section 5 EY Dave 🤣.
The disconnected system is strong. Speaking out for the innocent is such a hard thing to do. Keep up the good work.
I think the police have better things to do than piling someone up for this , I wouldn't like to see any sort of animal being killed for food and I wouldn't like my children or grandchildren seeing this we don't need educating on this matter . We were brought up on this food . After all if I want to change to a vegan eater I will but seeing these animals being killed won't make any difference and he said e don't have to look if we don't to but it will be to late if we've just seen it .
@@jeansmith7202 maybe it won‘t make a difference for you but a lot of people have never seen this before and they will start to think. Why would you choose animal cruelty when there is enough other food out there. That‘s the whole point. Only because we ate meat doesn‘t mean we still have to eat it to thrive
I get slightly offended when I see someone wearing a leather jacket, maybe I should call the cops on them too.
Maybe we should all just calling about every non-vegan thing we see telling them we are offended. See how they like that. I am offended everytime I see somebody drinking cows milk, wearing fur, eating dead animals I could go on forever
@@Oatmilllk I feel the same
The world we live in is so sad! It breaks my heart to know that people pay for these, but refuse to watch it and face reality. They have proved that humans are nothing but liars and hypocrites! And the arguments of the police were the worst to make him shutdown the screen smh.
Ethical Veganism is protected under UK law
Yes, it was ruled "It is not offensive to society" to educate members of the public.
Having a print out of this law would be very beneficial when doing public activism, because a lot of police officers don’t know the law.
@@pacmanmcgavin7034
Burning down farms including the farmers, for example? Hyperbolic example, but you catch my drift
You clearly don't understand the law and how that has nothing to do with what he is doing, idiot.
@@mrsthatcher9815
Who are you talking to?
And what is your understanding?
You dealt with that so well Joey - absolute inspiration!
Shouldn't have packed up and left though.
Of if he did, should just go to another spot somewhere else/go back tomorrow/another time.
Absolute idiot more like.
Exactly he is inspirational....
The first lot were PCSO , they have no more legal right than you or I. Its disgusting that they come up to you making more of a scene than the screens. The footage is legal , what you are doing is legal and bloody important. Keep Going , I've been vegan for 3 years because of you and others in the community . Thank you for opening my eyes
The music in the background pissed me off more than what was going on.
That popular young busker girl happens to be there
The 1 person who got offended might not even have seen it.
McDonald’s worker: there’s some vegan outside showing Slaughter footage.
Manager: then called the police and say you’re offended.
*Trillions* tortured and slaughtered
Or one person offended
Humans have gotta be really primitive for that logic to ever succeed
The legal system has a long way to go
As a species we are dumber than dumb. In fact id say most animals have a superior awareness and compassion compared to the average human. Not all of us are like that
I think people are offended for all the right reasons. However the one person who complained here is probibly the person who makes the most money out of the meat trade.
this is exactly what is wrong with the world....you can get into trouble for doing the right thing
That sentence can be wrongly interpreted. I can get footage of women being raped mutilated killed, and I whould be arrested in public for showing that. So... whats wrong in showing humans being killed, head removed, fingers cutter? Still an abuse that needs to be shown to the world. How's that im going to get arrested to show my point and he is not? See my point?. The freedom of "showing" your point may not be aceptable in society even if the points are valid.
@UCvAe2yDM7K1yPN8Pt1Vd08g sure now hipocrisia its the answer for fundamental opinions :) thats how we know that you are extremist. No actual fundamental points.
By their logic you could complain about animal carcases hanging in a butchers, as it offends you. .
Exactly
Joey really is an impressive person. Courage, brains, hard work, compassion, patience. Must hurt to be him most of the time...
Police when someone is in danger:
Police when someone’s not doing anything wrong: 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨
So true...
So true.... They stand around do nothing when someone robs a store but when someone for nothing wrong all cops are on board.
Yep Police are useless, they avoid real crime and my conclusion is because they are lazy, disorganised or not bright, perhaps combination. Just my observation but police do more harm than good in reality from my experience.
I just don’t understand how they have all the resources in the world for peaceful protests but can’t go to someone’s house right away when there’s been an actual crime like assault, robbery or murder? They somehow take hours to turn up for that 🤔
What about that dreadful loud offensive pop music?
Can we call the cops to get it turned off?
And nobody complained about the loud music and the woman that was shouting in the background??? !! ,🙉🙉🙉 She gave me a headache.
then i suggest you stay home and dont go near a city. stop being flippent, there is a diffrences between some one busking and it not being to your likeing and a man showing animals being killed
@@matthewlockyer5571 Ngl. I didn’t even realise there was someone in the background singing until I saw this comment, and whoever that person is actually sounded great singing - the song is best part by H.E.R & Daniel Caeser 👍🏼
Or the advertisement of the half naked dude behind him
The person who got offended didn’t like seeing animals suffer. So they called the cops to shut down the guy who’s actually trying to stop it……
Absolutely unbelievable!! The hypocrisy
People getting offended proves the point, if a vegan was offended then yes thats not hypocrisy. Keep up the amazing work Joey.
The woman at the start twisting his words over the radio wow. I wanna see a joey carbstrong and cop bodge video.
desperately holding onto her last fake imaginary world where animals are happy to be mutilated and killed for their body parts
Women twisting words. No way
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@@scotchegg3419 Yeah, they're very very good at it.
you handled this so well joey, so well spoken. This world is legit crazy, thank you for what you do
Wowww. I am always so amazed at how you don’t lose your temper. Well done 👏
well its better to keep your cool when dealing with "authority" even with renta cops like this lady who's not even a real police officer. but she can call the police and cause a real problem. which she did,
she keeps saying ppl are offended when its really just her.
why would he lose his temper?
@@mimiboom3183 I consider myself quite a rational person but if I were in some of the situations Joey has been in, I would've lost my temper, including this one. I may be wrong but I think you are insinuating that the original commenter is being judgemental because of his past, and I think you are wrong.
@@mimiboom3183 because they're being massive hypocrites and suppressing freedom of speech.
@@redpillpusher yh I agree. The fact he kept cool actually leaves the police officers with a good impression too.
Wow she sure got offended, weird that she couldn't tell you if it was illegal or not, really she was the one harassing you.... Keep up the good fight Joey 💪
The animal holocaust is offensive.
Offence is subjective and she showed how easily people get offended at nothing: oh, you don't like PCSOs...
I found her attitude offensive, where do I get her shutdown?
"Dont you dare tell me the truth about what I eat. I would rather live a lie. It makes me sad to see animals die but not to be the reason they are dying." Hypocrites.
Nobody is getting harassed by seeing a slaughtered pig, they probably just got done eating one. Ridiculous. Also, they have no idea what harassment actually is. If you want harassment, the animals are harassed(to put it VERY lightly) and then murdered. Showing people what actually happens is enlightening and can spark positive change, if you get upset over this you should be upset. Get upset, and then do something about it, put the knife down. I went vegan on July 4th, 2020 after being a vegetarian for a year. I realized what I was doing and stopped. Not that it was related but I've also been sober for 7 months, April 19th, 2020. I've never been healthier and my body thanks me every day. I've always been an animal lover, but my actions weren't aligned. Choose vegan, go plant based. 🌱❤
Yeah, it's all bullshit just because the government cares more about money than morality.
Abusing and exploiting animals, completely legal but exposing and showing it to educate people is somehow illegal.
As a student many many years ago our class went to a slaughter house I threw up it was horrendous did put me off bacon butties for a while, but if you truely believe life is sacred all life is sacred so salad is off the menu as well have a good and long life just breathing, oops breathing is not allowed as you destroy oxygen
Sage Are not all animals harassed?
What if a child walked by and saw that? Slaughter cannot be displayed publicly in this manner unfortunately.
@Shinra Would you be fine with showing your child an animal getting killed?
THIS Hypocrisy is REAL -
No different than someone who is imprisoned for acts of animal abuse / then getting fed ABUSED ANIMALS in the place they are incarcerated
Deep insanity
@@pacmanmcgavin7034
Wild animals in nature rape and kill each other, eat rival's children etc. etc.
Does that mean there's nothing wrong with it?
...This appeal to nature is a complete logical fallacy in this context.
We humans have moral agency, a choice and better alternatives.
Animals in nature have none of these.
@@pacmanmcgavin7034
Humans have no need to consume animal products, hence there is no moral justification for abusing and killing sentient beings when it can easily be avoided. Once again, we have the moral agency, the choice and the better alternatives to do so.
So, if we have no need for it and its purely done for taste, convenience and tradition in today's modern society, how is it not comparable to rape anyway, the idea that just because one *can* exploit and kill animals one has the right to do so even if its unnecessary?
Might does not make right, and going by the logic of "we can eat meat, therefore we will, at the expense of innocents, even though it can be avoided, with total disregard for the *victims*"
therefore is equivalent to "I like sex, and I'm able to take it if I want it - even though there is no actual need to do it in terms of survival etc., and absolutely no justification - with total disregard for the victims".
@@pacmanmcgavin7034
"Is a whale morally corrupt for consuming plankton"
No, what part of *we as humans have a choice, moral agency and better alternatives readily available* do you not understand?
*That* is why it is wrong for you to victimize certain animals that you discriminate based on arbitrary norms and conditioning.
We don't treat dogs or cats or guinea pigs with respect and love without cutting their throat for a sandwich because "as though they are people".
Vegans get upset and angry at the exploitation and suffering of all animals just like you (hopefully) and other people do when they see cats or dogs suffering at the hands of humans. The difference between us is that vegans are actually consistent in their indignation.
@@pacmanmcgavin7034
Your claims are highly uninformed.
"Veganism is ‘single biggest way’ to reduce our environmental impact:
Researchers at the University of Oxford found that cutting meat and dairy products from your diet could reduce an individual's carbon footprint from food by up to 73 per cent.
If everyone stopped eating these foods, they found that global farmland use could be reduced by 75 per cent, an area equivalent to the size of the US, China, Australia and the EU combined.
Not only would this result in a significant drop in greenhouse gas emissions, it would also free up wild land lost to agriculture, one of the primary causes for mass wildlife extinction."
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/veganism-environmental-impact-planet-reduced-plant-based-diet-humans-study-a8378631.html
About health and nutrition:
"It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes."
"Overall nutrition, as assessed by the Alternative Healthy Eating Index, is typically better on vegetarian and vegan diets compared with omnivorous diets. While some vegetarian diets may be low in certain nutrients, such as calcium and vitamin B-12, this can be remedied by appropriate planning. Compared to nonveg diets, veg diets can provide protection against many chronic diseases, such as heart disease, hypertension, type 2 diabetes, obesity, and some cancers. Furthermore, a vegan diet could make more conservative use of natural resources and cause less environmental degradation"
www.eatrightpro.org/~/media/eatrightpro%20files/practice/position%20and%20practice%20papers/position%20papers/vegetarian-diet.ashx
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19562864/
I am no vegan, I never will be. But this Fella has every single right to be there and show his Point of View! If you are a Snowflake, and are 'Offended' then just walk FUC*ING BY!!!!!! Absolutely disgusting PLOD have time to spend on this - while Granny 200 yards away, is having her Head caved in, in a Burglary, and will be completely Ignored!!!!
These days 1 person is going to be offended by everything
Wdym these days?
[Falls over dead] (offended by slight drop in O2 content due to our collective efforts furthering climate change)
What a sham, One person, the Police and our laws are a scam.
Be grateful that they haven't choked him to death.
urbo locks got nothing better to do mate? People do mistakes, and he has assumed the mistakes he made, piss off perfect sob!
@urbo locks does being drug addicted criminal who is at that time not doing anything wrong warrants getting choked?
@@GregVidua I wish they had.
@urbo locks Bootlicker lmao. So if you commit a crime you deserve execution by state thugs? Conservatives are the biggest cucks holy shit
Great work Joey, you handled this situation perfectly
'I wouldn't see them as a victim of crime, I would see them as a victim of being offended' spot on.
Holding that diet coke probably to justify the MaccyDs she just ate.
People should be offended of beeing lied and deceived about their "food"!
My ears are offended by the insane loud "music" played in the background. Wtf?
i know someone should have called the audio police.
I am so fed up of the noise of the modern world. It is more noisey than ever.
They have live performers on that stretch of Manchester all the time that’s probably why
Whoever called the cops, you could not get any worse as a human being- literally out there trying to save lives and you call the police on them! What a person huh? Thank you Joey, your work is incredible
Joey: Doesn't eat animals
Person: Eats animals
Joey: shows what they fund
Person: Is offended and calls police
Joey: Is now breaking the law ???
Would you like to see a tree being cut down?
@@byagency8607 my son is a Tree. Surgeon what's your Point ,
Karen got a badge for christmas and thinks she is the law
What a silly idiot that woman is. Go and eat your burger love x
My mum recently dumped her 30 year partner because he turned vegan and started putting that shit on her t.v I fucking high fived her
@@MrUltimaPro Im sure there was more too it than that, but so long as she enjoyed the high five all is good. :)
@@paulshort1027 no that was the reason because he would put it on after she told him not to but it what he showed that made her realise how heartless he was that he wanted to show her that stuff to get her to convert...all well and good seeing it in the street you can ignore it but forcing someone to watch it in there own home
@@MrUltimaPro What a jerk. She is well rid. Please pass along a high five from me.
These police hypocrites are complicit for people's ignorance
Freedom of speech is the key factor here. If these police forced him to be silenced because one person didn't like it, then they could set the precedent of NEVER allowing slaughterhouse footage to ever be displayed for fear of offending an individual. Dumb.
I can’t believe that they’re being so hypocritical 😒 love you joey 💚 thank you for everything you do 🌱
''if slaughter houses had glass walls..''
It comes to something when showing a legal process causes distress to the public. Maybe it shouldn’t be legal then !!
When did the police become the feeling police tell them to do one what a joke this Country is, I always thought we lived in a free country not a dictatorship but that’s what is coming to what a joke.
I teared up watching this. The compassion you hold in your heart Joey is so incredible. I really look up to you.
Feelings police! I’m not a vegan but he has the right to be there and show his stance on cruelty,this is a free country
THANK YOU for doing what you are doing! THANK YOU for being YOU!
Joey is not harassing anyone. They can politely ignore him if they don’t want to listen. Any place selling meat offends offends me.
Shared this on Twitter, thank you
Manchester man they don’t ever like the truth no matter what it is. That PCSO needed more training I’m shocked at her lack of knowledge on this sort of thing. Ahhhh those male officers I couldn’t have stayed calm their logic is messed up. Don’t let them ever stop you
I don't know if it's a Manchester thing necessarily, but it is incredibly silly. He's literally just showing where people's food comes from. 😂 Xx
i agree Iwish I could do what Joey does but i wouldnt be able to keep calm fair play to him .wasnt he great
All Manchester men are the same? Are you the same as all the women from your home town?
Free speech in the UK is dead. You're not allowed to offend people. How authoritarian is that?
@@WiseandVegan how should we revolt? It does look like speech is no longer free how much longer before u r arrested for yr thoughts!?
ARTICLE 10
Freedom of expression
1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This Article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises.
2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.
www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Convention_ENG.pdf
Well if it's not appropriate to show a video, then it's not appropriate to buy meat.
you logic ? liberal.
Joey you handled that SO SO SO well!! Bravo!
For the animals. The ACTUAL victims.
Yes, it is very offensive, that's why it's being shown.
I am not a vegan at all, and don't like what he is showing , BUT he does have a right and a point.. one person complains and they come out in force... Maybe someone should complain about that singing rubbish..