Will This 125-Year-Old Cornet Still Play? ACB Show and Tell of the Conn New York Wonder from 1894!
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
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It's quite rare to find a full "Kit" but this 1894 cornet has EVERYTHING original from it, even the replacement springs in the original wrapping.
Here's some info on this rare horn!
The New York Wonder in C, Bb and A, or "Wonder Solo Cornet with Vocal C attachment" as Conn called it can be tuned in C, Bb and A as the name indicated. The removable section of the leadpipe, with the mouthpiece in it, can be plugged into either the Bb tubing, or into the "C attachment" as is the case in this picture. There are also two main tuning slides; the one above the instrument in the Bb/A tuning slide. The main tuning slide on the instrument is the C tuning slide.
The common name for this model is "New York Wonder", which apparently stems from the fact that it was sold at Conn's New York store. You are liable to see these in a variety of bore sizes ranging from "S" (small) to "L" (large). Often this bore size is stamped on the 2nd valve.
What Conn said in 1887:
The cornet player who desired to use his instrument in the church choir or with the Piano or Organ and not be compelled to transpose the music, but play it just as it is written, will find this Vocal "C" attachment an invaluable adjunct to this instrument. The cornet in Bb and A is positively the same as the Wonder Solo Cornet except the valve slides which are made shorter so that the cornet will be in tune with itself when the "C" attachment is used. When the cornet is used in Bb and A the Vocal attachment is removed and the tuning slide inserted in its place.
Instructions for the use of the Wonder Solo Cornet with the Vocal attachment:
To use the cornet in "C" remove the tuning slide and insert in its place the "C" attachment, shove up the valve slides and use the Bb shank in the attachment. To use the cornet in Bb and A, replace the tuning slide and draw the valve slides to the mark indicated. Each instrument is furnished with two mouthpieces, music-holder, piston wiper and water key. Cornets are complete in handsome velvet and satin-trimmed cases, and are furnished with the Hoch patent bell mute, and are sent for six days' trial and approval.
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Wow, just imagine how much history that instrument has lived through
Invention and mass production of the automobile (1895), World War I, Pandemic of 1918, Depression of the 1930's World War II, The Manhattan Project (1942-46), Dropping of the Atomic Bomb in 1945, , Breaking of the sound barrier in 1947, Breaking of the color line in baseball in 1947, Korean Conflict (1950), Brown v. The Board of Education (1954), Assassination of JFK (1963), Civil Rights Act of 1964, Vietnam War (1965), Assassinations of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy in 1968, Landing on the moon in 1969, Challenger explosion in 1986, 911 in 2001, First Black President elected to office in 2008, Donald Trump loses elections in 2020.
Yes, much has happened in 125 years and this trumpet was played throughout all those years by generations of trumpet players.
I recently bought a conn connstelation long cornet off you, nothing but the best of quality! I have In my collection several instruments from the late 1800s to early 1900s. They include a peashooter trumpet, and two cornets.
its amazing that the battery lasted all these years
I love your passion for trumpets...
Thank you!
C.G. Conn actually got his start out making those rubber mouthpieces before he built his first brass instruments .I Have a N.Y. wonder in practically mint shape and its a great player .They really built instruments with great pride and craftsmanship back then .
That horn sounds fantastic--The player does, too! Great find!
I love seeing horns like this! getting to play them is like living a bit of history.
A couple years ago I had the opportunity to play a Bach Apollo from 1925, serial number #214. It had some signs of age, but overall was in great shape. It was certainly not a horn I would choose to play on a regular basis, but it was cool to get to experience play horn that Vincent Bach himself made and likely play tested.
Thanks for sharing!
That old and still a fantastic sound. Incredible !
I just restored a 1911 Conn cornet. Yours sounds fantastic !
Loved the Astor piazolla song on the c cornet
That is one cool instrument! What a find!
Amazing for the age. My first playing was on an 1860s Strangeways Cornet. Not a patch on you Conn. Thanks
I've got a 1890 wurlitzer special cornet. I cant find anything about it but is pretty similar to this cornet.
That’s some horn Trent! Happy New Years! Miss you guys!
Great video!
Brilliant player...as always!
What a find ! A real beauty ~ I feel tremendously happy for you in this find.
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CG Conn started his business making rubber rim mouthpieces. My school at Interlochen was given the Greenleaf collection from Conn which included a huge set of mouthpieces.
Finally something very interesting on an old horn. One that is actually older than mine. My cornet is from Boosey and Co, which means straight off that it 1932 or earlier. Going off the serial number it is actually 1907. So I could really relate to this video. Someone at work gave it to me, said it was in the attic for 40 years. All I had to do was oil the valves and polish it and now it looks and sounds great. I would love to know what it might be worth
I have a cornet from the 30s, it used to be my great grandmother's
Beautiful tone
Cool horn. I had one of those for a while, missing some parts.
Gotta love that IN brass. If you ever get to Indiana, I need to introduce you to this amazing little opera house, built by a cornetist in the late 1800/early 1900. Gen Lathrope , being a cornetist, designed the acoustics around the cornet....the building rings with a top of staff G when you point your bell into the corner. Lathrope and Conn were good friends and I can only speculate how many Conn horns were trialed there. Lathrope Also was a mentor to Walter Rodgers of Sousa's band, born in this same Lil town of Delphi IN. Was a great surprise to find so much horn history in this little unassuming farm town. Keep up the great finds Trent!
I'm planning on making a trip up to getzen in late Feb. Maybe I can swing by on my way back with some goodies to play!
This is the coolest ever ! Wooow...unbelievable actually....✌️
hermoso instrumento!!!! en manos de un eximio musico !!GRACIAS POR LA MUSICA MAESTRO!!!
That valve oil looks amazing. I’d love to try it.
Ftw
It has a great sound
Those C attachments are rare items. Back in the 19th century they used to supply different bits/shanks/crooks to give you various keys and pitches. I've got an English-made Boosey & Co Cornet which came with B-flat and A shanks, and a crook for A-flat. I have seen photos of attachments for C, but never been able to get my hands on one. The particular model I have also has a secondary tuning slide between the main tuning slide and 3rd valve which could be swapped to give high pitch A450-455 and low pitch A435-440. Sadly, the high pitch bit was missing, but I can play in concert pitch just fine.
That horn is in fantastic shape! The dings are extremely minor, and could be easily removed. A valve job and it would be as good as new. Lovely tone!
True cornet sound, Ilov it!
First note = new subscription!
Cafe 1930! Lovely.
I just bought a henri gartier cornet thats simular I was trying to figure out how to use the ladpipes(it has 3) and but this helps me understand configuration and possible use of tubes. This video should help me figure it out. Thanks.
Glad I could help!
The “C” pipes are very cool • I wonder why they no longer have this on today’s cornets 😎
Great!
Ha! Hey T! Greetings from NH. I had a student show up with one of these in the original leather case (which was in far worse shape than that one). It had a number of different pipes and mouthpieces as well. They wanted to know if that would work for beginning 4th grade band. Hope all is well! - Matt B.
Crazyyyyyy! It's amazing these treasures are still in the wild.
I have a couple similar "Holton"(?) horns sold by Jenkins in Kansas City from approximately that era. One of them is highly engraved and has that odd forked spit valve up front as well as the lead tube that dives between the tuning slide before going into the valve cluster. So, were the Conns stencil horns or was Conn the stencil supplier?
ACB should recreate this design
I have a cornet that's extremely similar to that, but it's missing the low pitch leadpipe, so I can't play it with the brass group I'm in (which is a shame because it has better valves than the horn I usually play, which is a vintage York Perfectone). It does have the "C" attachment, which is exciting, but the horn overall is a little more beat up than the one featured here. Then again, I got it for fifty bucks, so I can't complain!
I have a Couesnon flugelhorn from 1960 (according to the serial number)-none of the original accessories, and it came in a gig bag with a broken zipper, but $300, guys!
The C crook would also be useful for playing in a family ensemble with a pianist and C-maelody saxophone.
I own a Wm Dork&Sons Professonal Coronet 1904. 117years old.
My cornet is made in 1914 , play it every day
Wow.
I have a Conn cornet that my Dad used when he was in school (1930's), and which I used when I was in school (1960's and 70's), and it plays quite well, but the bell of the horn has some severe dents in it, and as far as I know those dents were always there. The horn itself is now probably around 85-90 years old or possibly older. Is it possible (1) to repair significant dents, and (2) to repair an instrument that is almost a century old?
Absolutely on both accounts! Send us pics at info@austincustombrass.com and we can check it out for ya!
Are you using the longer A lead pipe in the Bb setting due to high pitch vs low pitch? I thought that the shorter lead pipe was for both C and Bb and the longer lead pipe was for A Is the cornet high or low pitch? Love your videos.
I have a 1902 Wonder Cornet fully restored by Mark Metzler. Valves re-plated and re-fit by Anderson Plating in Elkhart. Question: What mouthpiece are you using? It doesn't look like the original.
I've got one of these. Family heirloom. I'm the first brass musician in my family in a very long time, so I'd like to try and get it fixed up, but it needs a leadpipe and water keys. Do you think those could be found somewhere or even made?
Reach out to one of the vintage experts like Josh Landress, Mark Metzler, and Robb Stewart perhaps they have some extra parts on hand! Best of luck!
Holy fuck, I knew you at UNH. Weird seeing you in my recommended today. Small world. (And/or Google knows too much these days...)
That horn looks great for its age. If it could talk?
Have you considered getting it refurbed. I mean as well as dents the values. Or I am asking about the impossible to repair valves!!
Probably a decision for the buyer. Replating pistons isn't cheap.
My main cornet is an 1897 conn New York wonder!
Dual water key!
AND why wouldn't it?