The motor is not a problem. The battery capacity and size are issues. More battery more range and of course more weight on the boat and less storage space.
Not only the battery size and weight, but the cost. This 180 HP electric outboard will cost around $120,000 when factoring in motor, batteries, controls and all rigging parts. New 200 HP Mercury is around $20,000, call it $25,000 with rigging. If this boat owner only goes 30 miles per outing it would take decades to make up that extra $100K in fuel savings. Big electric outboards (over 15 HP) are a nice idea, but not there yet.
Until we put a price on carbon emissions this will continue to be the case for a lot of things. And yeah it kinda sucks, engines are cool and have allowed us to do a bunch of stuff but I'm willing to embrace this new concepts if I have the money and eventually price will drop and it will make sense for more people
@@scubacro5758 but its very accurate on it distance, battery for EV range are vary with load. that why ev truck cant tow stuff like 8k lbs over 200mil range. average marine motor get about 1 mil per gallon. what the range ev marine battery?
I'm starting to understand why most manufacturers have put the motors under water where the gearbox would be, not only the added efficiency of eliminating gears might offset some of the additional drag but the noise difference is incredible. This motor is arguably loud and part of that might just gears but also the vibrations of the prop passing through the keel turbulence transmitting through the shaft.
I understand but design a hub to be able to harness the movement Without being a load, it would be four mini-stators with no parasitic loss, because of 4 hubs available. Wouldn't that work?
No it would not work, as above you have described perpetual motion. Bigger hub would make it worse too. We are a battery breakthrough away from this “really” working
I say the way to go is to build direct ammonia fuel cells to power electric boats. These will solve the range and weight issues. Batteries in boats are not the best mix.
Around 120 K the complete system with batteries and controls. But It's not available like that, only on OEM, you can't buy it separately for the moment.
30 miles 💀 did more than that on my skiff during a day of fishing. My current boat has 300 miles of range on a tank. I’ll go up to 75 miles one way offshore in my current boat.
Yes, On a day of playing at the lake with family we usually put 20 miles on the boat. Lots of throttling up, running full throttle and pulling tubes which requires more power. Then a day of fishing, even inshore or freshwater we may travel 10-20 miles. It is a very cool concept for those who prefer leisure time on boat, but for not for someone who uses a boat for distance, speed or loads. Definitely not for a fisherman
Be ok as a Saturday afternoon family ski boat .....but to get offshore need 100hrs of battery life bare minimum to take it seriously as opposition against petrol n deisel
That outboard in installed too low on the transom by the way. Another fail! That thing is giving me a headache just through YT, I cannot imagine in person. Terrible!
I noticed that too. When the water started blowing up around the motor it was very obvious. I'm sure they could get better range and speed if they installed it correctly. Maybe they need to study up on that, or the use of a jack plate. LOL
The horrible, whining noise coming from the gearbox is a no go. The range more importantly, is also a no go. Don’t forget the cost of a electrician to wire the 220 to your dock.🤦♂️
30 miles is not good range at all, normal range for boat is 200-250 miles, if I get this boat I should stop in middle of my day to do full recharge so I can get back home
30 nMi is double what the "average" boater uses? are you kidding me? My offshore tuna trips alone are over 130nmi. all on my 2007 225 Evinrude. hasnt skipped a beat in 16 years, and got it for $3k. 40 miles is just a joke. and thats just at cruise. long long way to go on the water if you want to beat gasoline or diesel my friends.
Right, but... there will come a day when the electric hp is cheaper than the gas hp. Last year the battery KWH halved in price and will reduce by 40% this year. Once tech is learned, it's there for ever. The future is electric.
@@jamesdonaghy9143 umm no. one again its a matter of range and weight. both things batteries will never be nearly as good at on a weight sensitive high load scenario. can get away with this in a car, but not a boat or an aircraft. the negatives are just too insurmountable for the forseeable future. im not sure what you mean by price being down 40%... your saying the price of electric outboards are down 40%? impossible. and again, where are you charging on the water for the vast majority that doesnt have a private dock/shore power?
@ct1762 The price reductions I mentioned concern battery units, which will eventually translate into outboard prices. The wind and solar sources are also improving in watts per dollar and watts per Kilo, with no clear limits established, going forward. Cases where fossil fuels are the smart choice will diminish going forward until they become obsolete, a happy prospect for all biological entities.
Omg, that motor will never sit on my boat with that high pitch sound, not only is it loud it is a terrible sound, if it was completely quiet like an electric car (without artificially generated sound) it would be compelling. But to change a gas engines nice growling sound to that? Nope. One positive though, it looks good.
I hasten to add that I loved this video and the performance of this electric outboard engine!
The motor is not a problem. The battery capacity and size are issues. More battery more range and of course more weight on the boat and less storage space.
Yes but 400l tank on 7.5m rib is not very light, thats 300kg.
Not only the battery size and weight, but the cost. This 180 HP electric outboard will cost around $120,000 when factoring in motor, batteries, controls and all rigging parts. New 200 HP Mercury is around $20,000, call it $25,000 with rigging. If this boat owner only goes 30 miles per outing it would take decades to make up that extra $100K in fuel savings. Big electric outboards (over 15 HP) are a nice idea, but not there yet.
Until we put a price on carbon emissions this will continue to be the case for a lot of things. And yeah it kinda sucks, engines are cool and have allowed us to do a bunch of stuff but I'm willing to embrace this new concepts if I have the money and eventually price will drop and it will make sense for more people
@@scubacro5758 but its very accurate on it distance, battery for EV range are vary with load. that why ev truck cant tow stuff like 8k lbs over 200mil range.
average marine motor get about 1 mil per gallon. what the range ev marine battery?
@@deshawn2877
I don't think battery tehnology is advanced enough to have full electric boat of this type
I'm starting to understand why most manufacturers have put the motors under water where the gearbox would be, not only the added efficiency of eliminating gears might offset some of the additional drag but the noise difference is incredible. This motor is arguably loud and part of that might just gears but also the vibrations of the prop passing through the keel turbulence transmitting through the shaft.
Wouldn't designing a generator in the lower unit to recharge at the same time it is being used be more efficient than relying on a plug to recharge?
I understand but design a hub to be able to harness the movement Without being a load, it would be four mini-stators with no parasitic loss, because of 4 hubs available. Wouldn't that work?
No it would not work, as above you have described perpetual motion. Bigger hub would make it worse too. We are a battery breakthrough away from this “really” working
With a few mods, it would work submerged. It could redefine the definition of 'dive boat.'
can we have the noise level data?
What’s the price?
how much the electric motor?
This technology is heading in the right direction. Epropulsion in the marine sector is needed and welcomed. Kudoa. #onemillionboater pledge
Will this be available in the US?
Yes it is
Buena tarde. Engine price and shipping cost to Coatzacoalcos Veracruz México C.P96380 please?


How long till the first lithium boat fire?
I bet sailors said the same thing about the magnesium in gas outboards... which caused plenty of fires.
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video could i get the website as im interested in this technology
visionmarinetechnologies.com/e-motion-180e/
This will make more sense whenever batteries reach about 10x the current Lipo power density.
✨WE ARE SAILING 💚🪂⚡️
Awesome and about time. Why not hydraulics to replace gears?
They are working with McLaren to develop another kind of gears, we will see...
I say the way to go is to build direct ammonia fuel cells to power electric boats. These will solve the range and weight issues. Batteries in boats are not the best mix.
how heavy is the 180hp pkg. ?
400 Lbs
@@yachtandseatv7160 Not including batteries.
Of course @@96thundercat
400lbs for a 180 is pretty good. Just need to get much better range to make it usable.
Don't these batteries catch fire when water gets in them 🤔
There is a pretty seriuous security system. Normally the water is not supposed to get in and there is two cooling systems
Whats the price.
Around 120 K the complete system with batteries and controls. But It's not available like that, only on OEM, you can't buy it separately for the moment.
30 miles 💀 did more than that on my skiff during a day of fishing. My current boat has 300 miles of range on a tank. I’ll go up to 75 miles one way offshore in my current boat.
and are you taking the boat out on your EV truck?
Yes, On a day of playing at the lake with family we usually put 20 miles on the boat. Lots of throttling up, running full throttle and pulling tubes which requires more power.
Then a day of fishing, even inshore or freshwater we may travel 10-20 miles.
It is a very cool concept for those who prefer leisure time on boat, but for not for someone who uses a boat for distance, speed or loads.
Definitely not for a fisherman
This is as loud or louder than my 30yr old 2 stroke lol.
Where get juice
Sir I am India then speak in your electric motor then have India give me purchase now how to tell purchase now electric motor
I don't sell this engine. You need to contact Vision Marine
If Sharrow Propeller™loop design is installed in this engine, the range will be 25% greater.
I know two people with sharrow props, neither enjoy that kind of efficiency gain. Much much lower gains than 25%
DAMN!!~
Be ok as a Saturday afternoon family ski boat .....but to get offshore need 100hrs of battery life bare minimum to take it seriously as opposition against petrol n deisel
100 hours? Outboard engines need service every 100h, how long do you stay off shore without coming back to marina 4 days?
The battery is good
That outboard in installed too low on the transom by the way. Another fail!
That thing is giving me a headache just through YT, I cannot imagine in person. Terrible!
I noticed that too. When the water started blowing up around the motor it was very obvious. I'm sure they could get better range and speed if they installed it correctly.
Maybe they need to study up on that, or the use of a jack plate. LOL
Have a spare 15hp twostroke on board, just incase.
The way EVs are setting on fire, I doubt this technology.
That gear whine is going to kill sales. It is a higher pitch than a regular outboard. Fail!
You are right, that's why the brand is working with McLaren to change that.
@@yachtandseatv7160 I made an electric outboard, and when I had this problem I went to a direct coupling. No gears, no gear whine.
My Suzuki is quieter than this
Im making boat motors using tesla motors and battery packs
Please, send me more information
Gas and go . When you’re low on fuel use your external tanks. Good luck finding a charging station out there. 😂 Don’t forget the oars.
The horrible, whining noise coming from the gearbox is a no go. The range more importantly, is also a no go. Don’t forget the cost of a electrician to wire the 220 to your dock.🤦♂️
You don't need the 220, a regular plug is enough
30 miles is not good range at all, normal range for boat is 200-250 miles, if I get this boat I should stop in middle of my day to do full recharge so I can get back home
IT'S WHISPER QUIET!!!
Yet hydrogen technology is fully available and functional
The hydrogen technology is coming but not totally ready for boats and mostly for small boats. Sunreef will produce one in 2024.
ugh I hate fake youtube titles... this 100% not the first mass produced outboard motor! seriously annoying irresponsible clickbait.
In the electric outboard world, it was...not alone anymore, but it was. It's exactly for this reason that Beneteau Group signed a deal with this brand
30 nMi is double what the "average" boater uses? are you kidding me? My offshore tuna trips alone are over 130nmi. all on my 2007 225 Evinrude. hasnt skipped a beat in 16 years, and got it for $3k. 40 miles is just a joke. and thats just at cruise. long long way to go on the water if you want to beat gasoline or diesel my friends.
This is a statistic, nothing more. you're one of those people who does a lot of sailing, bravo!
Right, but... there will come a day when the electric hp is cheaper than the gas hp. Last year the battery KWH halved in price and will reduce by 40% this year. Once tech is learned, it's there for ever. The future is electric.
@@jamesdonaghy9143 umm no. one again its a matter of range and weight. both things batteries will never be nearly as good at on a weight sensitive high load scenario. can get away with this in a car, but not a boat or an aircraft. the negatives are just too insurmountable for the forseeable future. im not sure what you mean by price being down 40%... your saying the price of electric outboards are down 40%? impossible. and again, where are you charging on the water for the vast majority that doesnt have a private dock/shore power?
@ct1762
The price reductions I mentioned concern battery units, which will eventually translate into outboard prices.
The wind and solar sources are also improving in watts per dollar and watts per Kilo, with no clear limits established, going forward. Cases where fossil fuels are the smart choice will diminish going forward until they become obsolete, a happy prospect for all biological entities.
Omg, that motor will never sit on my boat with that high pitch sound, not only is it loud it is a terrible sound, if it was completely quiet like an electric car (without artificially generated sound) it would be compelling. But to change a gas engines nice growling sound to that? Nope. One positive though, it looks good.