proa Good Enough - Sailing Developments (episode 4)
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2021
- Testing out the new changes to my proa under various conditions.
Music Credit:
Eyeliner - Reverie orangemilkrecords.bandcamp.co...
Golden Axe - Moon of Peaceful Planet goldenaxe.bandcamp.com/track/...
1. Wider total beam. Previously it was too easy to capsize. Watching videos of Marshallese proa I noticed they were very wide. it looked like a width 2/3 or 3/4 of total length.
2. double purchase single ended mainsheet. Previously I had a double ended mainsheet, but it often snagged. I figured out the mast should rake over steeper than the yard, that way the tack will lift above the deck during the shunt and avoid snags. With a single multipurchase mainsheet I can hold on to more sail power.
3. pair of brailing lines. It seems more obvious to have just a single brailing line, but it's not just for bundling the sail up. If you pull the windward brail up slightly, it gives the sail belly, for light winds. If you pull the leeward brail up, you spill the wind from the top proportion of the sail, and reduce power.
4. better steering oar. Less difficult to sail down wind.
5. cleat on mast, for halyard and brailing lines. I just lashed two sticks onto the mast. Watching videos of traditional pacific sailing craft they often don't use cleats at all, just knots, but I've seen cleats like this on Marshallese videos.
6. triple purchase windward stay. I had an old (i think) dinghy mainsheet so I used it here.
7. wind indicator ribbon. A ribbon or flag is much better than a mast top arrow, because shows not only wind direction but also strength!
I cant imagine myself to know how it feels, i want to know how to sail, keep inspiring us here in Philippines. The boat rambler is my favorite but this one is also astonishing.
thanks! I really appreciate your comment! I think if you can't find someone to teach you a good way to learn would be building models, then a small boat you can sail on!
Something about this music and this camera angle makes this really watchable. It's reminiscent of some of the Norwegian train videos
your comment makes me want to record a whole trip somewhere, hours long!
Beautiful! Wish I was there to sail with you. It seems this can get quite a bit of speed!
Thanks for the design/rigging tips. Great music.
Muy bueno, Un chaleco salvavidas, no estaría de más.
Beautiful
Sailing dinghies years ago I got familiar with some of these terms ; lines...with these crafts it is ( almost) an entirely different ballgame!
yes, sailing a proa will teach you things about sailing that you wouldn't learn otherwise. It feels like in a western style dinghy each part is conceptually designed to perform a specific function, such as the rudder is for steering the boat. but on a traditional pacific proa it feels like you are just sitting on a fast moving pile of sticks, but when you bring the sticks, sails, ropes, and hull into the right balance you go the direction you want to, no part performs a single function, every part contributes to steering
This looks like a hectic amount of fun!
yeah it's great! nick skeats says when you are building a boat you should have a small sail boat too so you can go sailing and remember why you are building the big boat. I definitely agree. This boat has been very good for the motivation!
@@dominictarrsailing Great advice. Especially when you unexpectedly discover what you thought your deck was is actually a large rotting plywood and fibreglass sandwich and it will be YET ANOTHER season before you even get a chance to lose your boots in the water :(
@@gjml1597 sounds like you are speaking from experience?
@@dominictarrsailing Gah, unfortunately so. I'm trying to think of it as a learning opportunity to develop my fibreglassing skills... 😑
@@gjml1597 what are you fixing?
Bots RIP!! i love u proa.
5:27 Flying the ama nicely!
I like the information on your changes 👍🙂! Good to learn about options for my own Proa. Built a Proa P3 and had a first hour on the water. Not completely happy with my main sheet. It runs over a block at the saill and is very long to allow the shunt without loosing an end.
I would love to learn more on options to run the lines. Would be cool if you could demonstrate how main sheet and shunting line run exactly.
Btw. The P3 model is already online: ua-cam.com/video/4SVWoAlm4PQ/v-deo.html
thank you! I do have a very long mainsheet currently, because I've borrowed ropes from the catamaran I am restoring, and I don't want to cut them. Tie a knot in the end of the sheet so you don't loose it through the block, and it needs to be long enough so that the sail can feather when sailing down wind. Watching trad canoe videos (see my "Sailing Waka" playlist) I see that often they have a block on the boom but not on deck, so the crew on mainsheet is pulling the sail down directly. and often they wrap the line around an aka to make it easier to hold. I'll make another video demonstrating how everything is set up soon!
Hallo,
I am sailing now with a proa that Klaus Deppermann developed.
I have made a video where the sheet system is visible.
" 6 Meter Gilbertislandproa from Klaus Deppermann --2020-- " >> 4:02 min.
maybe this could help.
thats fast!
Looks greeeeaaatt. Is it terribly uncool of me to ask about a lifejacket?
you CANT swim ?
Hi from Normandy !
Where did you find the marshallese proportions ? For instance width = 70% of length ?
I found all the marshallese videos and watched very closely, see my playlist of traditional pacific sailing canoes ua-cam.com/play/PLT7Uycq16-Y94hHi4Puz-et9L43fGZV_l.html
Could you have countered the rounding up tendency by canting the mast more to windward?
I dont understand tge effects of mast cant yet. Would that turn the boad down / add leehelm?
Hallo,
on my proa I found out that it works very well.
I made a video about what I found out concerning canting the mast.
" Increase of speed against the wind by 100% --2019-- "
How much force can the sail handle before it snaps?
well, it would tip the boat over before the sail tears or mast breaks. you have to be ready to release the sail before it tips over, the camera angle isn't ideal but you can see some bits where the outrigger comes out of the water
How do you measure the speed?
I used this app. Phone is inside waterproof box inside hatch play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.basicairdata.graziano.gpslogger