Subaru Swap: Is This Classic Impreza WRX Better Than My Bug Eye?
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
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love this video . but the gc8 is the most beautiful car that subaru has made ! sti , r type , 22b , and the wrx . you will never beat a gc8 : bug blob hawk ........... gc8 is history ! thanks for this video .
y e s .
But i do also like a good hawkeye wagon lol
I'd have to say the gc8 comes secondary to the JDM BC5 RS Legacy
i vote o4 sti peak subaru
Agree but I personally love a blob wagon
Subarus hadn't got good handling ? Who told you that lie?
Handling isn't just about going round a corner fast, it is about feel and feedback too
I didn't like it. 50/50 split. I prefer the 40/60 of a cosworth for handling
While i personally prefer the looks of the older model, ive got to admit the bug eye has aged incredibly well. When they first came out there was a almost universal pouring of bleach into the eyes of car enthusiasts, but like BMWs M Coupe, id have one in a heart beat now.
Cant comment on the drive as have never driven the earlier one but the bug eyes are a whole lot of naughty fun.
Just what I needed this morning
i agree , white isn't the best colour for a classic WRX... but i guess they can't all be blue with yellow decals & gold wheels
Yep. I do see some in white I like but it doesn't suit the softer classic shape. Works better on more angular cars like the Evo IMHO
after many years i have just realised.. white suits angular cars better, thanks
I HAVE A WHITE BUGEYE WRX WAGON AND I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT!~
Shak.. i have a Forrester , i believe wagons/ estate cars are the business
Nah, a white Type R is my perfect Classic subaru. with the right spoiler and other bits they look awesome :)
Jayemm and number 27 to start off my Saturday......... perfect 😉
THIS! This is how we want car reviews and comparisons. Great points, great job.
Thankyou Ryan
@@JayEmmOnCarsI have a uk turbo 2000 awd if you want to review one. It’s not standard 315bhp. But to compare it to these jdm models is completely different
I thought the wrx imports were 240bhp..the sti's 276bhp
According to Wiki the last of the WRXs got 276...
Yes and the same ihi turbochargers as the sti's the wagons had less power and the smaller td04 turbochargers, I've had a few late classic wrx imports and they were very quick.
Jam I have a gf8 wrx 1997 and told it’s 240hp, probably more like 250 now. Still a joy to drive and slightly better on fuel over the 270hp + Stis lol slightly....
@@04cscholes I have just bought another gf8 jdm 1999 wrx wagon loving the car as well.
@@04cscholes if you stick your complete gf8 code into Google you should he able to locate what specific model you have and how much power it left the factory with, mine has 250bhp claimed from the factory with a td04 turbo compared with around 218 to a similar UK car
"Subarus have a reputation for having handling that's not great" -_-
Scott Chynoweth the older ones really don’t have the best handling
@@danielmorris5470 Absolute bollocks Daniel
@@danielmorris5470 u have no idea go to sleep
@@asadrabbani2860 I owned a 2004 wrx and now own a 15 wrx. I take it you've never driven one?
The classic for me... #ColinMcRaeRally Playstayion 1
the bugeye just has such a unique look that not many other cars have (speaking as the owner of one ahaha) but that being said, i still think the best looking one is the hawkeye
Classic sounds and looks better. It's my dream car. Great video and great content and great car and great video
By now they are both classics..
Only one true classic tho ;)
I'm guessing you deliberately picked that murky, Lombard-rally type day? great atmo. Also glad to see you using the Sudbury-Needham run that is one of our well-kept secret routes, great in any weather as speeds not so high. Cheers James.
Oh yes, weather by design. It is a good road isn't it!
U really need to test a classic sti. And the turbo 2000 Is the uks wrx.
Holy hell... I miss my two old GC8s.
Classic all day long . Bugeyes have grown on me over the years, i don’t dislike them,but prefer GC8’s any day no question.
I wish my hatch was faster but I’m too broke to afford mods under the hood 😭 so far it’s just aesthetic mods (interior and exterior) and exhaust.
The 2 door 97-2000 Impreza in blue with the spoilers is the best looking rally car ever imo. The 4 door white looks very bland in comparision.
Classic for me 😉
Great video, watched with interest as I've owned my Bugeye for just over 2 years now.
WHITE LINE MAKES A BALL JOINT TIE ROD ADVANCED BUMP STOP DESIGN = WORKS FANTASTIC ! i have a 2001 forester gt turbo = i put a td04 special turbo starts at 1800 rpm to 7200 rpm - big exhaust - then did all suspension wish bones alloy and special struts springs sti brake calipers track discs high pressure brake lines , big sway bars and strut braces = 150 mph out handels almost and $150,000 cars from the factory = cost me $16,000 i take it camping bike ,tent stove metal detector = everything . top car .
I had both around early 2000’s and although unfair comparing as my classic GC8 was heavily tuned I never bonded with the near standard bugeye and sold it ... after a week. Even with the headlight conversion the bug just never did it for me looks wise but I find them quite appealing now.
I own a 98 and 2001 bug eye , the 98 is an auto with 450 k's on the clock...the 2001 bug eye is a manual with 280 's K, they both still love the dirt and are fun to drive on the dirt and snow,,,the bug eye is better
I subscribe to yours and Jacks channel great reviews guys I know that road well James 👍🏻
You should stop by sometime
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I have a GC8 named " REXORCIST " on my plates lol .... my fave car ive owned yet
Had both , love the classics the bugs are ok but bugs are cheaper these day ! You can pick up Bug wrx for sub 2k while classics are increasing in value
I had two scoobie s , drove them like I stole them, classic then the eagle eye, with the pro drive performance pack, you have to learn how to drive them , hard ,,, when you start loosing it , if you take your foot off the throttle , that’s your first big mistake , you’ve gotta plant it and do the opposite to what your brain tells you , 45 in first my classic , and the last one I got 13 to the gallon average ,, didn’t have any mechanical problems with either , except replacing front tyres , regular on the classic ,, but I drove them very hard , however I always warmed them correctly and before switching off let them run for 3 mins on idle to cool the turbo ,, a real mans drivers car , ,but get one with brembos , if your gonna drive them hard on very twisty rds else yourll find terrible brake fade both of mine wrx sti ,,, cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧
GC WRX"s are proabably the best shape to date. Bugeyes are probably the least popular in terms of looks, and they're everywhere. Can't believe you think a bug eye looks more masculine??
I have a wrx hawkeye lightly modded, if you want i would gladly let u test it and review against ur bug.
"subarus have a reputation for handling thats not great" eh, really ? lol
Yeah, really. They grip and they go round corners but to me handling is about feel, and they have none
Good shout! The white Impreza has to be one of the best designs out there
Have you been likened to Nick Frost yet? How does the Impreza compare to the Mk1 Legacy RS?
Yes, many times and I am not sure as I have not driven one
@@JayEmmOnCars LOL, it is uncanny though. Having watched many Subaru videos I do think the Mk1 Legacy RS sounds alot nicer than the Impreza. Something to consider for future videos?
Great review :-) I bought the white WRX from Jack while I was waiting for my Exige to be delivered. I now have my Exige so if anyone would like to buy the white WRX please let me know by commenting below and I will get in touch.
Haha poor car getting passed around a bit!
I have a GC8 1995 STi Type-RA Version. Fantastic car. Light, nimble and a direct family member of the WRC winning Impreza in 1995. The ONLY one to have
Great video appreciate your perspective on someone else's car without the normal pejorative BS.
I love bug eye
Cletus, have you ever considered doing a video where Jack and yourself each, independently, review the same car, you then watch each other's videos, and then do a face to face where you discuss your findings? I find terms like " petrol head ", " driver's car ", " real driver " etc nebulous, meaning different things to different people, and this type of video could help exemplify these concepts, plus provide good entertainment.
That's an extremely good idea....
I suppose I eventually had to have an idea that wasn't total crap‼️
I have a 2000 uk running 340 with antilag. The white one you drove isn’t giving the classics a fair chance
White looks dull on old cars unless modified. Apart from the white I will always prefer the classic Subaru since that’s what got me into Subaru’s
You'd be a fool not to swap that ugly ass bugeye for a GC8.
As a diehard Subaru fan, I resent the fact the bugeye WRX exists. It is the single ugliest design Subaru has ever put into production. Literally every other WRX looks better. Subaru obviously went for Porsche 911 with those googly, awkward headlights, but ended up with Chrysler Neon. It is the most unloved WRX model, as reflected in its lowest resale value of all WRX models.
I think it looks more like a Merc of the era
It had round headlights as the cars of that era, 2001-2003 were still adapting to the new type of headlight technology and couldn't get a design right that wasn't round at the time. They found a solution though and everyone quickly shifted away from the round.
MV60 I don’t buy that as a reason Subaru stuffed up so badly. Easy reason why? They could have and should have went straight to the much nicer and more aggressive 03-05 headlight design.
You do realise that time is progressive and not backwards right? 2001 is before 2003. They cannot have had later technology earlier. They would have made it a peanut if it existed in 2001. You do know about every other manufacturer having round headlights at the same time too right? There's no complaints about the soarer with 4 round lights, but then if subaru did that they'd be critised for making it look like a lexus. Sure the peanut looks like a couple of better designed round housings together, but have a better look, there are geometries in those housings that are not even. They have almost an oval shape to them if you look at the reflector walls. That was the problem everyone was having, getting the light to reflect correctly on uneven shaped reflectors.
Anyway, I wish we'd get glass headlights again. That is the only advantage a gc8 has.
MV60 There was nothing special about the 03 headlight tech. Just standard halogen. There was no technical reason they couldnt have done that a mere two years earlier. The bugeye lights were a design decision, or rather, a mistake that Subaru sought to fix ASAP, hence the complete headight design update just two years into a brand new model cycle.
You chose the worst MY GC8 WRX to compare. A year earlier or later and your experience would have been far better. Price wise you can't find a nice one for your 3.5k 'performance bargain quote.
Just a thought on the Bug, have you still got her?
No
All I heard in this review is my car this and my car that. Lol.
Well, it is a comparison between his car and my car
Yess I know that but it seemed u kept bigging up ur own car.
Brakes not great if you can't drive don't buy one !
Do you think these japanese cars will keep getting more expensive?
For now I suspect it will keep going up
Wooohhooo, you replied! :D Highlight of my day!
Fan interaction is very important!
I am a simple man, I see GC8 i hit the like button.
Thankyou :)
Enjoyed your test of the classic shape Impreza. I've an RB5 which I've owned for about seven years now. Mine had had a complete engine rebuild and the owner of the car had some engine mods done. I always wanted am RB5 when they first came out, but the price new was just a bit to high for me being a limited edition build of just 444. Mines ppp pack fitted as std apart from that big rear Prodrive spoiler. Certain models of the classic shape are going up especially the P1 and the super car priced 22B. I enjoy mine, it gives me everything I want. I show the RB5 at classic car shows and it's also my daily driver, the only problem is the rear arches rotting on the classic shape, mines currently having both sides replaced professionally. People love the old shape, at classic car shows lots of people talk to me about my Impreza and many say they owned one and it was the worse thing they ever done selling it!
maybe you shouldn't be doing any comparisons if you can't tell if your own car needs bushings. do some more research next time
I am the opposite to you, i prefer the classic shape to the bugeye shape which imo is horrid (but each to their own i suppose) Apart from that good review :P
the exhaust looks and sounds like the blitz nur spec r. easily my favorite exhaust for these cars next to the incredible straight pipe note.
That growl from the exhaust is addictive.
The bug eye is way better. I went from a 2000 gc8 to a 2003 peanut, so the last of the classics to the first of the peanuts, and the difference is huge. Standard equipment, build and handling are far superior on the peanut. I had the big rear sway bar, all new shocks, etc on the gc8. You had to as they understeered like a bitch in stock form. I had to make it start to oversteer to get rid of the horrid understeer. While in standard form (with what I found out later it had dead shocks), the peanut was much better than the modded gc8. I have since upgraded my peanut now and it's untouchable by bar the most heavily modified classic for handling. And the interior is just so much nicer too, the gc8 really showed its age a lot worse.
The difference there is the gc8 was a rally car on the road the bug eye on were actually designed as road/tarmac cars first. The weight difference is really noticeable when chucking them down metal roads
Que the comments saying you're wrong..when none of them have even drove an impreza 😒 great review tho! Nice to see something different compared to the usual impreza reviews "It's the best car ever and the other car I reviewed is also the best car ever" 😂
Haha I'm generally fairly lucky with my comments but let's see how we do with the Imprezas. Thanks for watching as always
Glad you enjoyed them both. I’m on my third Impreza now, a JDM bug STI, having had a bug WRX and a blob STI. Have driven a friend’s GC8 UK2000 and was surprised how much lighter and more direct it felt compared to the newage shape. I think the GC8 is more of a driver’s car personally but with the prices now I’ll probably stick with my bug - have spent a tad too much ££££ on it now 🙈
You're spot on, the gc8 was so much lighter, drove a wrx ra a few months ago now THAT was light felt like barely a tonne. Dead right about the bug too it was always going to be a hiding to nothing following the v6 fully developed looks of the much loved gc8 but they do look great with age.
gc8 is better... power to weight , handling etc..
But a good classic is soooooo much better to drive than a good bug eye (or later) model! Just put the later brakes on it, sorted!
Also IMO people who say they aint drivers cars never drove one! kinda like people hating on rovers!!!!!!!
if someone says an impreza doesnt handle well, they either a hater or they dont know how to drive it lol
Handling and grip are two different things
Bugeye looks alot better
Bugeye looks better? MY95 Arse it does....
...reminds me of a British Danny McBride.
1.2 bar on a classic sti turns them into a fast car, I’ve got a evo 8 now and I had a 96 sti ra years ago and I think it would keep up with my evo through the bends no problem.
It would on the road but not track . had 2 classic STI's and JDM Bug STI and evo6 afterwards. Evo was on the different level dynamically .
mantazini I am talking about rd use, classic sti’s are good but the sti ra was a completely different car much better handling wise, I’ve had two bug eye sti Prodrive's boats in comparison to the ra lol, I’ve had 2 evo 3s 2 evo 5s 4 evo 6s 1 evo 7 1 evo 8 about 10 Subaru’s mainly classics I really need to buy something else but I just love them.
Will there be video about the new exige 410? Looking to buy one, love your videos.
Possibly, I don't know if B&C will get a demo, that would be my only chance really. Anything you particularly want to know?
In the beginning i whas looking at the lotus exige 350 sport to replace my 2006 lotus exige s but then saw your video about the 380 sport,If i would to spec it out like the 380 with all the carbonfibre bits i would be better to upgrade to the 380 sport itself.
Now the 380 sport got replaced by the exige 410, im deciding between the 350 sport or the sport 410
Going with the 350 and puting al the carbonfibre goodys on it and once warranty runs out maybe lookout for a komotec kit or wait longer and save up more for the 410 that already has a chargecooler as standard plus it has the nitron 3 way adjustable suspension.
The exige will be used as a daily car and for ocasional track use 2-3 times a year + roadtrip.
Im looking to purchase a new exige beginning next year, Hopfully the 410 isnt replaced by then :).
Also intresting is the new front clam design like the 410 coming to the 350 sport.
The exige 430 cup is out of my price range also the category the 430 falls into road tax wise is pretty high here in belgium.
Gonna have look at the local lotus dealer in about a week or 2 for a quote for both exige versions.
Thanks, Richie
Looks twice as good as the bug-eye, nice shithouse taste.
WRX with 276bhp? Only on the ra..Still 280..one your driving looks like an imported wrx..240bhp..Subaru done a wrx sti with 260bhp.. you must get your facts correct!
STI...not still..
For the 96 model year JDM WRX’s had 260hp and 276hp from 98. Not sure about UK new but I think they were all 240hp.. you must get your facts correct!
Incorrect my friend. UK's had 212, wrx imports from 95my 240, wrx sti's 260, wrx ra 275, sti's 280. UK models (gc8) rb5 240, they also done uk 2000 wrsport option (prodrive package) 240, mcrae and catalunya standard Bhp with options. Worked for subaru since 1995 myself, raced and imported them for 20 odd years..if you want more info let me know 😉
If you want bug eye options, hawk eye etc I can help too 😁
Or failing that, give me your chassis number and I'll tell you exact model and claimed bhp from factory 😉
Did the jdm have the quick steering rack? Makes a big difference. My jdm will be back on the road next week :)
I'm not sure to be honest
Only type ra and type r sti had the revised steering rack
No this WRX will not have quick steering.
on number 27's channel he said it was a wrx type ra, the sti type ra got the quick steering but not sure about the wrx version
No just the ra and type r has the quick rack not the wrx ,,
my sf5 is better than both
Classic is my preferred look but nothing against the bugeye! I own a rally blue 1999 Impreza with the type r sti wheels and many jdm parts:) like the look
Sounds good to me!
An Impreza with a fartbox, quelle surprise.
GC8 ALL THE WAY!!
still waiting for the sti review....
I'm still waiting for one to review
Nope.
Lovely stuff...
Man thats some shirt..
Thankyou