2023 Suzuki GSX-8S | First Ride Review
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- 2023 Suzuki GSX-8S | First Ride Review
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Jacket - Oxford Mondial
Trousers - Rokker Vintage Jeans
Gloves - Rukka Rytmi
Boots - Daytona Arrow Sport GTX
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My measuerments:
5'8" with 30" inch inseam.
Timestamps:
00:00 intro
00:24 intro to bike
00:49 city riding
01:06 specs
04:06 city filtering lane splitting
04:26 open road riding
05:00 mountain roads
06:19 scary mountain roads
10:35 best road ever?
12:09 photo and video tracking
12:34 walk round of bike
14:39 very fast roads
18:51 conclusion
21:17 outro - Авто та транспорт
I’m very happy to see Suzuki making a truly ALL NEW motorcycle not just a totally new model but also a new Engine with new Electronics suspension frame etc.. I hope they continue to make more strides like this again because Suzuki is a great company that has a lot to contribute and this hiatus they’ve been on has been frustrating to say the least!
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I rode the 8S and Hornet back to back yesterday, with an open mind. It was a revelation - the 8S was, in my opinion, by far the better bike. Smoother, more mid range, more room, more comfortable. I preferred the TFT on the 8S - less crowded and clearer than the Hornet's screen. The quickshifter worked better on downshifts. Three things I didn't like - the lack of LED indicators (why put yesterday's technology on tomorrow's bike?), the odd position of the tail/stop light (surely it would have been neater on the rear of the seat unit?) and the fact that a USB socket was an optional extra, at a staggering £46 - I just hate being fleeced. That aside, is it worth £1000 more than the Honda? For me, the answer is yes. It's good that a quickshifter is included as standard, but it's annoying to be asked to pay extra for a USB socket and LED flashers.....irritating potential customers isn't a great way to start, Suzuki!
Did you change around the dash on the Hornet?
I think Honda also specifically engineered the Hornet to be a more top end focused revving bike, which would explain the lackier midrange.
"more mid range," Maybe because on paper the GSX achive the peak torque earlier then the Hornet.
These series of events in spain &france including Dan, Andy, Chopsy and others has been super entertaining 🤟🏼😂 Feels like a an adventure for us. Oh and I swear, Dan is a natural with these (non) intended puns. I bet he does it all the time even when nit riding 😋
Great to see you and Chops getting these exclusive ride events on the regular now.
I could definitely see myself on this bike, perfect for my needs.
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I think the aftermarket parts will make this bike look fantastic, tail tidy, mirrors, exhaust, blinkers👌
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The Japanese are masters. ❤️
The most attractive bike in its class. I like the idea of low-down shove as opposed to top-end power. It's what you use most often. Nice TFT. I like to see a bike ridden normally. Most people ride like this. It gives you a real idea of what the bike is like. A 1050cc version of this would be something.
I did this road on my old R1100GS years ago. They certainly are sheer drops.
The gsx s1000 is the 1L version of this. And in my opinion the better option. Way more hp and torque at your fingertips and an incredible ride all around! Own a 2023 black gsx S1000
@@DasChristoff Agreed. I have a 2022 GSX-S1000 and love it!!!
@@DasChristoff I think if he argues "like the idea of low down shove as opposed to top end power" he means that he doesn't need 150hp because it's unusable on the streets (without being unresponsible fast).
I think the gsxs1k looks alot better. But I too would never get one because I have a hard time using all my gears on my cb500f which has 1/3 of the powe the gsxs has? My second gear does 90kmh, pop it to 3rd and I'm done on the backroads, what do you need 150hp for, you know?
But then this wouldn't make sense with the bit that he would like to see a 1050 (for what ever reason 1000cc is not enough).
@@Daniel-dj7fh I’ve never owned a bike as fast as the gsx1000, but I have owned bikes with around 100hp and I did use all the gears and all the revs on a regular basis. I don’t consider breaking the speed limit to be irresponsible, I consider riding too fast for the conditions to be irresponsible. Sometimes going 120mph on a road with a 60 limit is fine just like 40mph can be too fast in a 60 depending on the road and conditions.
@@DasChristoff Dude you don't need "way more hp and torque" to ride 80-140 km/h, lol. It's not the better option. 8S can still achieve speeds you don't need to reach, nor you should on a public road, and the torque is enough to kill yourself anyway :)
I saw this bike at the dealer yesterday and I was impressed how it looks and feels. Really a quality machine for the money. When I sat on it the bike felt very roomy and comfy (I'm 187 cm), way better than the Honda Hornet which I tried also. I haven't ridden the 8s, but my first impression is that this bike offers high build quality for the money. I was really impressed yesterday by this bike which I wasn't expecting on forehand to be honest. Well done Suzuki.
That sounds good to me are are the foot pegs scrunchy to you?, Is the seat wide and padded enough? for long stints in the saddle? ie 3-4 hours+.
@@leeengelsman1855 it is still a naked bike, so don't expect miracles on longer rides. It felt very comfortable to me, including saddle and footpeg position. It is much more comfortable than a Kawasaki z900 which I know quite wel. Can't say much more about it without riding it....
I dunno man I think it looks like ass, especially in the blue.
But yet again the gsxs1000 looks really chonky, in a good way.
@Daniel-dj7fh it has a cyberpunk design that I'm a sucker for, and the slitted 'eyes' remind me of a predator. Overall I think they nailed the 8S design. I was hoping the 8R would grow on me as well, but it looks a little too much like the GSXR I spent 2 years with to really stand out
A few things the spec sheet warriors may not notice, it has mounts for paddock stand bobbins, the horn button is in the conventional position, it has an oil level sight glass and a proper size rear tyre. So, none of the things that niggle me before I've swung a leg over it😊
As someone who is looking to get this as their first bike next year a lot of reviews just repeat the same thing. Those small things sound quite useful through the lifetime of the bike!
Great review, one of the best on UA-cam
Thanks much appreciated 👍
Nice stunning view and bike! Thanks for the review, and also editing in the Suzuki team's video showing how they filmed you. That was interesting.
Fantastic review, well done Dan!! Great to see you again today, made my day!!
Brilliant that Dan! Really enjoyed that buddy, oh the memories of that road...
Cheers dude! That mountain pass! ❤️
i'm following you from the early days. and i've noticed ur skills in editing are so mutch improved! i love it how your growing. always nice informative videos with great sound. keep it up mate
Thank you so much!!
A worthy successor to the original 1999 ‘curvy’ SV650. Finally!
The legacy of the SV is etched in stone it will not be soon forgotten what's not to like? about it.
A full 800cc lighter weight new generation vvt version of it would have been great.
Well done Dan, an excellent review as always.
Your stuff is getting better Dan, here's a sub.
Thank you so much. ☺️
Great review! Love the intro. Think I prefer this to the Hornet. Certainly to look at.
🔥 adding this to the garage soon.
Dan, the production quality is top-notch. I mean, sure, I've like the video, but it doesn't do it any justice. I feel like 3 or 4 thumbs up would sum it up much better! Your videos are absolutely superb, do keep 'em coming, please! Cheers!
Thanks for the great video as per, Dan! This bike is on my list of contenders as a first one for when I get my license this year (along with CB650R and Trident 660) love watching your content. Cheers and have a great weekend.
Loved the review thanks for posting 👍🏻
Thanks Pete!
The trouble is when well known UA-cam bike reviewers goes to the same Bike launch we get a dozen variations of the same thing!!😂
Very true, but I think we all have our own unique view. I'm slow AF so you can see it from that perspective 😂
@@Englishbikerdan I actually enjoyed yours the best as most of us are average bikers too so can see the bike being ridden with a tad more reality!😉👌
Thanks for the review. Looking back on the design study, this is actually how I expected the new Hornet 750 to look :D
Thank you very much for this excellent video Dan. Love the scenery. Would you give this one the edge over the new 750 Hornet?
Hey great video :) what a ride you had I’m very jealous and hopefully I’ll be able to ride there one day, bike seams pretty nice 👌
Sounds good! Looks like a lot of fun! ❤
Great review Dan
Better looking than the others in its class.
Great vid as always, I'm looking at this as my next bike, between this and triumph trident, when/if do you think you'll ride it in the UK?
Thats a cracking looking bike👍
Interesting to see these parallel twin battles emerging. Hornet, RS/Tuono 660, this new Suzi. Interesting time for the midrange road rider.
Susuki do not release new bikes very often, but when they do they are barn stormers!❤
I think if they update the SV650 with better suspension, the same tft dash and breaks, suzuki can have also a best seller 👍
@@svaralen New design, TFT-display, Quick Shifter, Slipper clutch, on and off toggleable TC, better brakes and suspension and tires and make the engine a 750 or 800cc.
The old SV650 will start to struggle with emissions soon probably so more power and displacement in that engine would be good.
@@svaralen With the new Euro emissions, I would not be surprised if this bike replaces the SV650 in Europe
@@jaafersa I know unfortunatly. The good thing for me, I live in Serbia so not in the EU so we still don't have those stupid laws...
@@svaralen If they update it, it's gonna go up in the cbr's price range and under these circumstances why not just get the cbr.
Very nice review. It seems like a decent offering & probably my favourite in the category overall. Despite possibly not being the best in any one area, it seems like a great all round package. Seemingly better than the MT07 & Z650, more style & class than the Hornet (imo). Plus it comes with a standard QS, bigger brakes & rear tyre over the Hornet too. It's also presumably more reliable & definitely has a larger dealer network than the KTM, is cheaper than a Tuono (which I love) & comparable to the classy Trident & the nice CB650R. Suzuki's new 7 year / 70,000 mile warranty is also a big appeal for me too. Although test ride required for sure to see how the suspension copes with our ropey roads.
Agree with all of the above. The tuono has horrible reliability! The Japanese will always be better than the rest. Mt07/xsr700 are way lighter, but also a bit dinky/plasticky
@@J2I3H Yes agreed. The Aprilia's weren't great when they first came out but are supposedly better now? Either way though it's a significantly more expensive & risky purchase as it's never going to be more reliable than the Suzuki. Forgot about the XSR700 but not my thing styling wise.
What I'm concerned about is the fuel economy. The Hornet consumes much less than this bike (~50mpg > 38mpg), and it has a bigger tank too (15.2l > 14l). Realistically as normal riders, we can achieve more on the 8S than that of those journos, but remember that both stats are measured in testing condition, so for us average riders the Hornet is still much better on fuel.
@@gsm_liv8980 Suzuki claim 67mpg ( I'm dubious) but if you like the Hornet, it has a bigger tank & supposedly better fuel economy, then get that if it suits your needs better. They're both decent bikes & you can't go wrong with either.
@@ragerider6283 Nah i'm actually leaning against the 8S more. Just a shame that the engine is thirsty, the range could be better and indicators should have been LED stock. But otherwise I dig the bike.
Great review.. i love the new GSX 8S. Currently own a SV 650 2017 model and thinking of switching to GSX when it becomes available for purchase. Also great intro song. I will be glad to know more details for the song .. cheers .
Beautiful views my gosh! Bike has my attention too...may well be my next one!
I’ve watched all the launch videos. You and 44 teeth are clearly the best
That's very kind of you! Mossy is a legend.
Git..
Dan, consider doing the IAM/ROSPA advanced training. It helped me learn to read corners and become a quicker/better rider.
Already got some stuff in the works. Cheers.
Nice to see us Brits aren't the only country to dig a cable trench down the middle of a great piece of road....😂
Right!? Bloody awful! 😂
That is why Romanians flock to the UK, so many uncanny similarities
Same in New Zealand 😂
it's definitely a cool bike !!
Love the video and that bike
Great review. I've put my order in for one in black. Hoping to arrive in the next few weeks. Although the blue looks awesome I'm hoping I made a good choice 😂
Did you get in black? The blue one is my next bike.
I normally ride a gen 1 rsvr millie and an older Ducati 750 F1 . Took one of the 8s for a test ride and was super impressed at the comfort handling agility and lots of low and mid end push. A genuinely surprisingly good bike that would hold its own with a lot of more powerful machines in the tight stuff. Lots of fun.
Great review! I like the looks of this better than the Hornet. And thanks for the reminder to always ride your own ride.
La hornet è superiore in tutto, e venderà il triplo di questo carretto
@Salvo Spedale I haven't ridden either bike, have you ridden both? Looks are subjective, so I can hardly be wrong about my personal preference for the style of the Suzuki. From reviews I have watched, the Hornet can be pretty cramped for a larger rider, where the Suzuki is more accommodating. Price difference is somewhat offset by the fact that a quickshifter is standard on the Suzuki and extra on the Honda. I also don't love the skinny bicycle-looking rear tire on the Honda. Superior in all respects? Nope. Heck of a bike all the same.
@@rogerp4612 The price difference will increase if LED indicators are your concern. Those bulky halogen indicators have no business being on this handsome-looking bike
@gsm_liv those are not a big concern for me. For almost any bike on offer, there are one or two tweaks I would make. Turns signals don't enter the realm of deal-breaker for me.
I'm just dreaming of a new 850 SV 🥰😍
And a v-twin of course
@@chrishart8548 Absolutely..
That's a dream you'll have to savour! Before long, the SV will be gone as it'll need development to meet eu regs. Plus they won't want to make a v twin as they cost more to manufacture. A real shame, but I fear the end is near.
@trevorphillips3055 👍
Its Been a long Time Since I Desired a Suzuki, but this one is the Bike to
Do it ...for me
Last one I desired was a DR350SE in white purple and yellow
can't wait for the long-term review on your usual roads, and of course the comparison with the new hornet and mt-07.
Both the hornet and this are better than the mt. The mt is good if you're a street hooligan, the engine is great but other than that there's not much to write home about...
Same, should be happening soon. And I will be testing the new MT07 soon.
I didn't pay much attention to this bike when it was launched but now I think it is growing on me. An all new everything is a very rare thing for Suzuki, and this one has all the bells and whistles a rider could ever need. I had an SV650 once and loved it. I'm sold with Suzuki as a brand and what they stand for. I'm rambling but in a nutshell, switching bikes is not an option at the moment but if ever I do, this will likely be in the shortlist.
Yeah it's an interesting time for Suzuki. And they aren't done yet with new models either! I hope you can get a new bike in near future. Cheers!
i realy like honda's, but hey man, you hit the spot with this video on suzuki :) well done.
This is a real do it all bike, doesnt Excel in anything, but looks good is reliable and will make you smile because of the versatility. I think its a winner for suzuki. Now Yamaha need to make the mt-08 with usd fork and 85 hp😎
Agreed RE Yamaha. MT08 would be great.
Dan goes '50 pence-ing it' in the Sarf of France - I love it!
Don't believe the hype about tyres being 'specially developed' for a bike. What it means is that the has done a deal with the to supply thousands of tyres at the best price. Particularly with Japanese Dunlops, the OEM compound is usually different (harder, less sticky) than the same tyre bought as a replacement, which is why they inevitably get changed asap.
If you watch MotoBob's review of the 790 Duke, the GSX-8S is amazing value & isn't made to a price in China.
glad to see you riding your own ride. Worry about you!!!! chasing faster riders
I’m in the market for a middle bike, this looks like a winner, does it all!!
Thanks Dan, What stunning scenery to ride the more than competent and great looking "8S" Happy to see you riding at your safe level on an unknown and potentially treacherous road too. :>)
Great to see Suzuki have something new to offer, not just a re-work. It seems a lot of manufacturers are going over to a twin cylinder power plant, personally I love it, I'm sure it will sell really well, nice one Suzuki and another great video Dan 👍👏
That road looks terrifying and they would be waiting way longer for me to catch up😂
It had some very hairy moments and was icy in some places!
No biggy so learn how to corner well!.
@@leeengelsman1855what’s wrong with his corners?!
I like the digital ammeter readout but don't think there's many folk who wouldn't swap a quickshifter for the fitment of braided hoses as standard. I personally can't stand a spongy feel to front brakes.
This seems like a pretty decent bike but may struggle against the Honda Hornet. Isn't it about a grand more expensive ? I must say, as a bloke who's your height and has the same inside leg measurement, but a pretty light 9 stone 3 lbs undressed, it makes a change to see a bike with a rear shock that wouldn't be so hard as to be rocketing me off the seat a lot of the time, even over small bumps. Had to have my own bike resprung with a lighter spring, as it had been aggravating my cervical myelopathy something awful, even when totally backed off.
I absolutely love this bike. Just the looks, stats, and everything in the package all just seem perfect for a rider like me. It may be a bit heavy but I'm sure it's something you'll get used to and hopefully not feel on the road
I wouldn't worry too.much about the weight against the competition.
Your right you will quickly adapt ; Added grunt will assist with cornering balance and punching out of the bends.
@@leeengelsman1855 I mean, my current bike only weighs in at like 170kg, so that extra 30kg might be a bit of a feel (plus I weigh in at like 60kg). Hopefully it’ll be good in traffic 🤞
@@FSH-fv6ww current SV's weigh more than the originals but most people don't consider because they don't know it .
All they know is it feels great has a nice sound and is grunty.
The people whom design these have been at it for a long time they know how to make pleasing motorcycles.
Why people presume that they more than manufacturers by modifying bikes with crude aftermarket junk is mystifying to me.
Looks quite good in a real world setting, wasn't sure about the looks before hand
It looks better than the hornet but i cant wait to see if it has better perormance too
Your channel is really sick thanks for making this happen was really curious about this bike. A new bike from suzuki what?!?? Lol love suzuki 😂
Thank you! ☺️
Ok I’m getting this one
What an absolutely gorgeous road and scenery! Where is it please?
I've watched this video like 10 times now in anticipation of finally buying this bike. Not sure which color yet though, I'm torn between black and blue. I must say though that the video quality is insane and you are a great reviewer.
Thanks Mike! Enjoy your new bike! 👍
"I want to see mountains Gandalf" perfect line for a beautiful scenery and motorcycle.
hehe.
That road looks so awesome I want to experience it. What area of france was that in again?
Antibes, southeast of France, it's between Cannes and Nice.
Great review. Can't wait for you to do a head-to-head against the Hornet.
It has nothing against the hornet. Suzuki dropped the ball very low. And what the hell is that light doing in the tail unit?
@@povilaslondon Spec sheets aren't everything, and a veteran rider's perspective on both bikes back-to-back is more valuable imo than what any spec sheets can provide. For the tail unit, I guess it's very... KTM-ish? But yeah it's a bit messy compared to the Hornet. I don't think it looks that bad though.
@@gsm_liv8980 well mcn did amazing coverage on new Hornet vs MT07 and honda stole the crown from mt easily. I also think that Neeves is the best motorcycle journalist there is. Check their video, you will like it.
@@povilaslondon Yep I did watch that vid before, but that is the Hornet against the MT. The 8S seems to be a completely different motorcycle than the MT?
@gsm_liv how Is the 8 a completely different motorcycle they all look exactly the same to me except a few cc different and a couple of hp
The looks are growing on me, I'd like to see one with a screen. For what you get, the price is excellent. The colourway I'd go for is the Glass Sparkle Black / Metallic Matt Black No.2 (KGL). It's a Suzuki, so you can guarantee the bike will be reliable. But, in the UK you get a 3-Year Warranty anyway, with Suzuki AA Roadside Assistance-what not to like!
Nice bike. I really want to test ride one. what a beautiful place for a bike launch, I really want to see comparisons with the Honda Hornet and and also the Trident with similar HP. that road you are test riding on is like some of the canyons in California where if you mess up you either go into a rock cliff that will turn you into hamburger or you go off in the other direction and you are down a steep mountain side or off a cliff. either way you are screwed. I heard in another video that one of the test riders went down. I hope they are ok. I am really curious about the ride of this bike compared to the Hornet considering its over a grand more money. is there something about the bike that justifies that price difference considering that the Honda is 90HP. which is more than the 83 of the GSX8s. and the Honda is also lighter, is the GSX8s maybe more stable and confident inspiring ? better fit and finish ? I am looking forward to finding out in some comparison videos. hopefully someone makes a good one. I do like the looks of the Suzuki more than the Hornet. but I'm not sure that justifies the price difference.
Yeah it was a stunning location for sure! Yes, a lady journo had a small off but she got straight back on another bike and all was good! I'll do a comparison vid soon! Thanks!
Another great review, thanks. How does the handling compare with the older GSX S750? Is the 8S an apex predator? The 8S will retail for the equivalent of Stg 8,500 here. They are still selling the old GSX S750s for Stg6,370. So that is a 33% premium for new looks, the tech and 32 less BHP. Is the 8S 33% more fun?
It's been a while since I've ridden the 750, but from memory that felt more agile.
Me too and from memory it was very agile I. Town or the BRoads despite its weight. Just watched your GSX S750 review. You loved it I think. Better than on paper and that Gizzer howl.
How was the peg hight? Were they as high as the faster naked sports?
With good low end and mid level torque it’s perfect for city/freeway driving.
But much better in the twisties.
Great review I’ve watched it twice , certainly an interesting motorcycle but if you were picking which would you own Hornet , MT07, GSX8-S ?
Thanks mate, tough question. It would definitely be between the Hornet and 8S.
Had test rides on both hornet and GSX8S, hornet is great bike for the money the one tested had a quick shifter which was a bit jerky but that could have been me, was very flickable, lighter and more power but no quick shifter as standard. Gsx8 is heavier although you don’t notice it, quick shifter seemed smoother and pull from low rpm was smoothe. I am older rider 6ft tall 32 inside leg and gsx8 fits me perfect, I’ve ordered white one and can’t wait.
will this be good second bike (after KTM390 2018my) for 188cm tall 100kilo guy? considering this or new xsr900
I wonder if it's possible to put on clip-on handlebars on the bike 🤔
Would you choose this or the Hornet? Great review and stunning roads.
Ooh good question, one I'll answer in due course!
nice review. have question for you since you own SV, and im considering one. do you think and will you chose 8s over SV ?
I already chose the SV, so a bit of a difficult one for me to answer. I would certainly consider the 8S if I had not bought the SV.
@@Englishbikerdan waiting for 8s to arrive so I can test them back to back
Hey Dan
Having now ridden the New Hornet & 8S, which do you prefer?
Must admit after sitting on them both at the Excel in Feb based on seating position and feel I prefer the 8S.
I'll need to ride the 8S on my local roads to figure out which I'd buy.
At 10:46 is the road us locals call the James bond road but also used in Jonny English, Ronin etc
Hey Dan nice review. How does it compare to the SV650? Is it much better?
Yeah, better across the board. Which isn't surprising as the SV is getting on a bit.
Love the bike. My only complaint is the brake light isn't on the tail itself. When removing that fender, may be a pain to find an option for the brake light.
Yeah it'll cause some head scratching for tail tidies.
Bought one your review. The white one. F...... Awesome
Hope you enjoy! 👌
I just wish i could get past the blue wheels. But it's just too fast 😂. Seriously though, even though i hate twins, it's a cracking little bugger. I recommend to all but the most die hard of Vespa fans.
Great review - thanks.
Thanks for watching!
😸very Nice video😺
👍
Suzuki is making a comeback and I think behind closed doors is a secret GSXR given the entire line up has gotten an update aside from the M109 and more simple machines that are probably better left alone.
A GSXR800 would be great. They are also working on getting the GSXR1000 through emissions for Europe.
Was wondering whereabouts in Spain this is Dan? Looks like maybe Andalusia - sorry if you mentioned it somewhere, but what a spectacular bit of road. Gotta love Espana
Check the first 5 seconds. 😃 Antibes in South of France. Near Cannes and Nice basically. 👍
@@Englishbikerdan cheers Dan
Have to. Ask you, as you have ridden both, if you had to buy one would it be this one or the Hornet ?
I'd need to ride the 8S a little more to decide. I've ridden the Hornet quite a lot recently.
looks fun! how does it compare to your sv650?
The SV is showing its age, but still a fun bike to ride.
@@Englishbikerdan I currently only have money for the SV as a hobby motorcycle. If it's close in the fun department I'm just going for it. Here in Hungary the difference is about 2360 English pounds.
Imagine if Suzuki had update the SV style and engine to a 800cc 😍😍😍
@@alanpassmore2275 bring back the sv1000
@@alanpassmore2275that's what the customer wants!!
You had me at oohlala. :)) Subbed!
Awesome! Thank you!
@@Englishbikerdan Thanks for the videos!
Where in France are these roads?!?! BREATHTAKING.
My invitation must have gotten lost in the mail again😢Looks like heaps of fun, stunning panorama pittoresco.
Being called HondaRyder might put Suzuki off😅
4:00. FortNine has an important video about balancing called "Why Millions of People Ride Harley Davidsons," on their UA-cam channe, where Ryan explains that you don't actually need the balance shaft that balances the crankshaft front to back, because when you vibrate the engine front to back (like what happens in a Harley with a single crankpin engine) the vibration is absorbed totally when you're at speed and rolling, because the vibration is merged into the forward motion of the motorcycle so it mostly totally dissipates once you're moving. It's the up and down vibration which is the problem, and it seems like Suzuki might have messed up by trying to balance all the axis of the engine simultaneously, and not succeeding to balance the up and down vibration properly in the meat of the power band where the bike spends most of it's time. The balance shafts themselves, probably create their own harmonics at certain speeds, which would explain the buzz. The 2nd Gen Hayabusa is very smooth above 2,700 rpms, and never gets any rough buzzing, only a faint vibration that you can barely feel. and it's a huge motor and only has one single counterbalancer. The ZX-14 is apparently glass smooth, smoother than the Hayabusa, and has twin counterbalancers and it's a 1440cc engine. A parallel twin should be a bit easier to balance, as the harmonics should be less complex than a 4 cylinder, but the 270 degree crank might be a totally new design for Suzuki in their entire history as a motorcycle company. I expect that they will redesign the balance shafts and tuning in future iterations, and you'll see that buzzing disapear. They might also change the gearing, a higher gear would solve the problem faster than redesigning the engine. Modern motorcycles are notoriously geared too low.
I like Fortnine. But I'm sure Suzuki engineers, who've been in the game for decades, know what they are doing.
Pretty sure that bottom balancer makes the whole engine architecture more awkward than it had to be. A Parallel Twin by nature it's tall, having a balancer in the oil pan pretty sure doesn't make it any shorter.
Sometimes engineers have "too many choices" and end up putting together a shitty mix of parts and mechanical theories that don't make anyone happy other than themselves.
But hey ! At least they are still trying to look like they haven't shit the bed for good. 💀
Let's see how much longer they can keep their charade of being the Walmart of motorcycles.
I'm glad to see Suzuki hasn't lost its "hi hi hu hu ha ha" effect..😊
You have ridden and reviewed many similar bikes including this one, the hornet, cbr650, you bought the sv650. Are you still happy with the sv650, or do you wish you had one of these other bikes?
Happy with my SV for now. I didn't buy it based on the spec sheet, but for its charming character.
Right but I wondered if you were still happy with your decision
Seems like the camera man has zero fear. Chilling on the rocks behind the snail barrier to capture the footage.... Jeeze.... Wonder if Dan would swap his sv for this....
I probably would!
The headlight design reminds me of the Predator's mouth!
Yeah I can see it! 😂
In the words of Dutch....
"You're one ugly mother fugga!"
Dan would you prefer the SV650 or the Gsx8s for a ride in the mountains?
I'd have to ride both in the mountains first.
@@Englishbikerdanmaybe I should rephrase. Would you rather ride the gsx8s or the sv650 on a twisty road. I assume you have ridden your SV650 in. Twisty road before?