The villager who considers helping an old bedridden lady to answer nature’s call more important than fetching a chair for the police officer ... And the same lady wetting her bed when the war is on - excellent touches
He received lot of flak for an interview with selva.. I think that's why he had to make this review longer to please a certain section of audience.. Hope u can understand how that interview is related to this movie review..but if baddy done in that intention to make the review longer , I don't feel its right.. Baddy was 100% right in selva's interview
@@santhoshkanna3670 true thats my opinion only but did he do any 16 min interviews after selva's one? For a caste based movie which tries to depict the higher caste ppl in poor light, do u think 16 min long review is necessary?
@@vijayendranvijay4538 yes I think 16 min is necessary. This is just to show the pain of people.not to show poor light on high caste people.so watch the flim twice and thn come and comment.there is a lot difference between caste movie and karnan
@@santhoshkanna3670 sorry bro.. I skip movies directed by ranjith and also other director's movie which are on the same lines.. They show only the plight of lower caste and depict the higher caste in poor light.. Showing ravanan as hero and ramar as villain in Kaala movie is one such example.. I have seen them saying mahabharata itself doesn't exist but not sure how they believe in ravanan alone😂... Even after 1000 yrs they take movies based on sufferings of lower caste which isn't true by any means... Once upon a time it was, but now the higher caste only are being treated as lower caste
Instead of making them to ask questions why can't we teach others not to oppress.. The oppressor has to be shamed to death instead of educating oppressed to fight for their injustice..their education should not go just to fight their injustice...
8:21 At first his father refuses him from going back. But after sometime when Karnan anyway decides to go back we get to see his father stopping Karnan and giving him the sword and making sure that he doesn't go into the war unarmed. Just after this particular moment we get to see Karnan's father sitting there smiling and watch Karnan go. And he then turns back to his daughter (coming from the water)with the same smile. His daughter claps at him. I think it's actually his daughter who changed his mind from restraining Karnan. Thus the father looks back at her telling her that he had done what she told him to do and the daughter is applauding her father's act. So, for me this scene justifies the earlier scene which shows the connection between Karnan's father and his sister.
Yes. But Bharadwaj Rangan was trying to say that it could have been done differently. I mean the spirit entering his body and making him realize it than Karnan realizing it. That could have been fantatastic as well....
@@aneeshs113 yep bro I got that. But the subtility in this scene gave me more impact. As the connection was established earlier. Now she can communicate with her father in many ways. Also in here the girl must have also wanted to see her father change his stand (be man up in Karnan's language) and act brave. So her spirit coming in his body will again register as she telling Karnan to go. What if she wanted her father to instead??? The whole scene worked like that for me.
Sir, the whole film though clothed with a story , with a hero ,his family, friends and love.... I strongly believe that the director uses even those to symbolically convey a message. The hero here symbolises the courage, anxiety ,and pain in the new generation of a downtrodden society , the father is the symbol of an older generation , each of who are reluctant to do something about their fellow men's plight but worried only about their own even though each had suffered ( symbol of a daughter in the form of a spirit) in some way by the society that has ostracized them. But when the new generation is ready to up rise against the evil so the older generation not only has to relent but give them courage( the sword ) and support.
I just completed watching Karnan yesterday and I noticed the following things: 1. According to Mahabharat, Draupadi rejected Karan and insulted him when he wanted to participate in her swayamvar. But in Karnan, the girl Draupadi likes Karnan and he doesn't even notice that in the beginning. 2. The police officer is beating up people from Karnan's village in front of Babasaheb Ambedkar's picture. It might be done to show the hypocrisy of the society. A police station is respecting a lower caste person but disrespecting other lower caste people at the same time. The other interpretation can be the disrespect faced by Babasaheb himself in his struggle. 3. Karnan is having a sword and rides horse. Here there can be multiple interpretations. The first is lower caste people aren't allowed to carry a sword and ride horse but Karnan is doing it. The second reason can be connected to Mahabharat. In Mahabharat, Karan's adopted father was a horse rider. 4. When Karnan and others destroy the police station, Babasaheb's picture is shown again. They are fighting back against the system the way Babasaheb did. 5. A donkey is tied in the beginning of the movie. Karnan notices this but is advised not to free him. The donkey is Karnan's anger against the injustice. Karnan frees the donkey and unleashes his anger at the same time. The donkey and Karnan both feel free. All these are my opinions only. They might be right or wrong.
When the girl with the mask was clapping in the end..... I thought lal's character would also appear with mask beside the girl...... That would have again be a goosebump moment!!
My opinion : All the children wearing masks were killed without knowing the reason or problems around them. These pure souls became true gods of that very village with actual faces rather than the headless budhdha which has no identity. These gods guide the people towards freedom. But Lal on the other hand sacrificed him for the greater good.So showing him standing near the Gods will be a misleading narrative I guess.
its high time dhanush release movies in all languages like a pan india one I feel he has got that popularity and has grown higher than petrol prices in Lockdown period along with VJS
I don't think audience in the north have the maturity to understand or appreciate complex caste dynamics and the self awareness to digest it. And the troll army there will get easily offended.
@@ashishpadmanabhan not this movie but wat about Jagame Thanthiram the coming up with Karthick Naren These movies we can keep it grounded here but wat about our content based commercial cinema something which kollywood mastered Ghajini Thupakki Kathi Theri I'm sure u would find greater collection recognition the remakes proved it Dhanush should do it
I strongly disagree with the fact that Rangan puts forth with his statement that the love portion with Rajisha Vijayan is unwanted and could have been flushed down. Without the love track, the character of Karnan would have had scenes that only show his anger and angst and we as the audience couldn't have connected with him. The whole climax wouldn't have been hard hitting as much if we didn't connect with the main character. Otherwise, the review is awesome as always. And Rajisha Vijayan's performance was good too.
I think we need directors cut version. We don't know how many scenes has been cut கண்ணபிரான் தனக்கு நிகர் இல்லா ஒருவனிடம் தோல்வியுற்றதை நினைத்து மண் புழக்கலை எடுத்து மீன் பிடிக்க. கர்ணன் தண்ணீர்ல இறங்கி வால் எடுக்க யுத்தம் தொடங்கியது. படத்தல நிறைய decode பன்னும் போல 😳
omg i am a keralite yet i was crying with the emotions of the people..such an epic movie..vere level padam..mari selvaraj hats off...santosh musical uff touching...gem of a movie..national award loading!!
Whatever Karnan missed in Mahabarata because he is from oppressed caste was given here in this movie by Mariselvaraj to karnan like loving Mom , lover Draupathi and mentor(lal) how clever portraying this
This is the baddy that initially I got drawn to.. right from his days of print review in The Hindu.. I felt off late he was going too mainstream and doing too many interviews.. stuff like this is gold standard of reviewing a film
Yes, all you said is right BR... Every film is a big struggle - I feel Bhavani's ostrich story.. So I think we can only appreciate this movie with full heartedly.
Actually those Draupathy(Heroine)scenes there because in real karnan they both won't even touch each other that's why mari selvaraj wants to rewrite it and make them close
We want KARNAN film in hindi version as early as possible. South Cinema is really appreciate to represent our indian common masses social issues with Anti-caste Academic discourse.
@@akashmuruganandam1462 bro I'm a North Indian from Chandigarh . I accept here most of the audience is still watching stupid movies and making mostly gems flop and also judging South Indian movies by mostly action mass dubbed movies . But it's also pretty evident a lot of people like me also wants to watch gems of Tamil, malyalam and some of kannada and Telugu cinema . However I watch movies with in original language as I hate dubbed version but a lot of people want it to be dubbed. I have been watching these movies even way before Bahubali . I love a lot a lot of actors down south in commercial aspect in content aspect and there people also. But plzz don't try to pull us down like that bro its not right man .
. Sir mind you that iam not from mari's community so I have no emotional investment in the movie. but hailing from tutucorin I can truly understand the pain he is trying to pass on to the audience . I felt pain and anger against the people I call relatives, friends ,family and neighbors after seeing this movie . that is the victory of this movie and its director But that is not the reason I bat for him. he did make movie with a panache! A true talented film maker. I can write a booklet with all the symbols he is used , with a 'purpose' and not overdoing it as this reviewer states Not taking anything from them if balachander sir ,balumahendra sir and mahendran sir could be called master craftsmen because of the way the treated their craft( true, they earned their credentials, ). Their movie making was unique . so does mari. No exaggeration but he can be put in the same bracket as those veterans. Pardon me if I hurt some sentiments. The above said men spoke of relationship and conflicts between individuals and their inner conflicts and how those affect the community as a whole , but here is a director speaking of relationship and conflicts between communities, which is true and existing and affecting all of us even now. And he is doing it so beautifully. Pls gave him his due. HE IS HIGH CLASS . pun not intended
Karn can win Draupadi swayamvar but he was not allowed to do it. He was also not allowed to be taught by Druna but here he got finally a chance to be an army person. The movie tries to overcome Karn's suffereings of Mahabharata. The boy who takes care of the horse never rides it. It is the representation of Mahabarata (sudra).
Just finished watching the movie. Ngl. This is the best movie from our Tamil Cinema since Soorarai Pottru. Karnan was an intense, violent, haunting yet powerful film made by Mari Selvaraj and Performed by Dhanush. First Applause to Mari Selvaraj for taking such a Hard Hitting subject. He created an imaginary world and allowed us to roam with his characters. Karnan and his villagers doesn't even looks or sounds like actors, as they were filmed in such a lively method by DOP Theni Eswar. Dhanush literally carried the whole movie with his eyes, shoulders, Hand, Legs etc. Dude was just more than an actor. Santhosh Narayanan was the Back Bone. He composed a BGM which was both smooth and haunting at the same time. The Bloodshed in Fight scenes was spine chilling. Props to those make up artists. Please go and watch the movie only in theatres wearing mask.✌❤
Seeing you as a lover of art cinema, being a Thalapathy fanatic myself, don't u think Vijay can try an offbeat original series on netflix or prime where we can see a pure, subtle, raw Vijay.. Imagine Vijay in the role of Billy Butcher in Boys.. I mean it would be sooo goood!!
Actually I think there was a scene which soorarai potru could have avoided There were some comments about it even here in FCS cmt section but as a hardcore Suriya fan ot was just the comeback we needed And btw wats ur opinion on Thalapathy 65 Don't u think it would be like thupakki or action with dark comedy combined??
The scene at the police station where the officer asks the village head that by naming himself “Duryodanan” did he think that he would become a King really gave me chills
there is nobody in Telugu industry who can make such type of films.. and even worse there is nt a single movie critic that can analyse like Mr Rangan does in TFI. Tamil films blend Art with Commerce so beautifully that in itself is an Art.
True. I wish our "super stars" have the courage to dive in to this kind of movies. NTR did maybe 3 that brought his acting to the fore front but no one in current Tollywood will have any legacy with their resume.
I felt movie could have started from utradheenga appov song instead of Kanda vara sollunga, bcoz Kanda vara sollunga had lot of emotions, it was eerie and was in praise of a person called karnan, With an audience who just walked and sat to watch this made very little sense , in a way I felt it more like a masala movie hero intro song, than conveying the raw emotion of karnan and the struggle he got.. also after the climax when this song was placed it would have given much more impact than now, bocz by the time the war in climax was done most of the audience had a sense of anger and heavy heart.. instead starting with utradheenga , where karanan walks with sword and rain and the whole village is preparing for something,.. so it would have given us a perspective to know why karnan is furious what is the village preparing for ! #askbr
In that village, girls who die before getting married are considered as gods. And yes, I believe that the god character with the masked face emerges again when Karnan's dad pleads him to leave the village. He gives his son the sword and turns back to view his daughter clapping for her dad's act.
Karnan was a good movie. I got goosebumps at some moments. But I think something went wrong about the movie. It didn't give the feeling that asuran and pariyerum perumal gave after watching. BR gave exactly the review that I would give. Along with the pros he also gives the cons. Paid reviewers, they only give good reviews.
Asuran was vetrimaaran's worst movie, it has the worst second half of any of vetrimaaran's movie, it is the only movie that left no impact for me whatsoever.
இப்போது இந்த கர்ணன் , அசுரன் வகை படங்களுக்கும் இதற்கு முன் வந்த சாதிய படங்களுக்கும் சில வேறுபாடுகள் உள்ளது.முந்தையது தங்கள் சாதிக்குள் நடக்கிற யுத்தத்தை காட்டும்.உதாரணம் தேவர் மகன்,விருமாண்டி படத்திலெல்லாம் நாயகனும்,வில்லனும் ஒரே சமூகத்தை சேர்ந்தவர்கள்.ஆனால் தற்போது இன்னொரு சமூகம் முழுக்க கெட்டவனாக சித்தரிக்கப்படுவது,ஒரு அரசியல் பிரச்சார நோக்கம் கொண்டது என்று சொல்லும் குரல்களை புறந்தள்ளக் கூடாது. ஒரு சமூக இணைவை தடுக்கும் பிரச்சாரத்தை தவிர்த்துவிட்டு தங்கள் வரலாற்றை பதிய வைக்கும்,வாழ்வியலை எடுத்துச் சொல்லும் சினிமாவை கொடுக்க முயல வேண்டும்.இன்னொரு ஜாதியை வில்லனாக சித்தரித்தால் இதற்கு பதில் சொல்ல இன்னொரு படம் வரும்.இப்படியே போனால் இவை சமூக அமைதியின்மையை மட்டுமே உண்டு செய்யும் களத்தில்.அந்த அமைதியின்மையை விரும்புகிறவர்களின் ஊதுகுழலாக மாறத் துடிப்பவர்களிடம் எல்லோருமே உஷாராக இருக்க வேண்டியது கட்டாயம்.
Wow! This is what I call a review or sharing the real experience of the mind of the creater Mari Selvaraj. Now I realize why you got a national award as a film critic.
ஒடுக்கப்பட்ட மக்களின் வாழ்வியலை, ஒரு வாளை மையமாகக் கொண்டு விளக்க முயற்சித்த இயக்குனரின் எண்ண ஓட்டத்தையும், சிந்தனையையும் பாராட்டுகின்றேன்.மேலும் தனுஷ் அவர்கள் இந்த படத்தில் நடிப்பையும் மீறி கர்ணன் ஆகவே வாழ்ந்துள்ளார். இந்த படத்தின் காட்சியமைப்பும் ஒளிப்பதிவும் எதார்த்தத்தின் உச்ச நிலையில் உள்ளது. Reality show பார்க்கும் சில மனிதர்களுக்கு கர்ணன் படத்தில் கூறப்படும் மக்களின் எதார்த்த வாழ்க்கையை புரிந்து கொள்வது சற்று கடினம் இருந்த போதிலும் இதை புரிந்து கொள்ள முயற்சிப்போம். இந்தப்படம் பெரியார், அம்பேத்கார், மற்றும் பாரதியாரின் ஆகியவர்களின் மையக் கருத்துக்கள் ஆன சமூக நீதியை வெளிப்படுத்தும் வகையில் திரைப்படம் ஆக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. #psychosocial_review_for_karnan_Tamil_movie By Born of Mind
Ahh BR! 16:09 long review flatters this movie. I expected much more from Karnan especially after Mari's interview with you on Pariyerum Perumal and felt utterly disappointed. From the review, may be I was wrong, but kind of felt you were dissapointed too, and finding reasons to like the movie. :) Surprised you have mentioned about 'One story' syndrome too. Exactly what I thought while coming out of theater but opposite to your view. I thought may be Mari didn't have a story to tell beyond Pariyerum Perumal. May be that's why he was hiding the ultra thin story of Karnan behind the shots of location and all those creatures(which becomes tiresome after a while). Much like Joji, where Dileesh dwells on extra long shots of locations to distract the viewers from the story(or lack of). At least Joji was a gripping narrative, while Karnan, except for its moments, was a predictable borefest. 16 minute review can't mask it. :)
Hey, I wish you could talk more about police atrocities. Ultimately, it boils down to one thing. A visionary and shrewd official would never be cowed down by political bosses.
Regarding the mention of Karnan's dad having vision of his deceased daughter not having a payoff in second half - I have a different view. If the father made him go back only on the vision of that spirit, it leaves him and Karnan only as taking her orders without making a decision themselves. However Dhanush decides on his own to go back, and he does mention that the voices of the oppressed villagers is ringing in his head. And his father decides to send him back thereby making the painful decision himself. This is what the spirit later cheers on by clapping hands. This moment is better as it is in the movie.
Am I the only one who felt it was missing smthng we got in pariyarum perumal.that authenticity was missing in karnan .it felt more like a hero dhanushs commercial movie with a good story than a mari Selvaraj movie.and that vittrathinge yemmov was out of rythm of movie.And rajisha and gouri was not at all needed in movie.
Think most of us felt that. But again we need to consider that they are two different stories.. and this one is something that happened a few decades back
Ngl I felt the same when I listened to that song like how tf this song will fit in the movie. Then I watched the movie yesterday it fit really well in that situation.
i also like the scene-setting inside the room where dhanush confronts the policeman and there is a light behind him and natty fells down the same light falls on him.
"It will be great if you give 2 reviews for one movie. One review for the people who had watched the movie with spoilers and another review for the people who haven't watched the movie without spoilers." Most of the people watch reviews to decide whether to spend money and time on a movie or not. After few days of the movie release you could have discussed these spoilers in #AskBR section like you usually do..
This is what happens when a reviewer doesn’t know the history. This movie is based in kodiyankulam police brutality which happened in 1996.. based on real incident 🤦🏻
6:48 - Its not fair to compare Pariyerum Perumal (PP) with Karnan as is. In PP, the theme of the movie revolves around the conflicts the hero goes through. In karnan, more than dhanush, Kodiyankulam village is the hero. At the end of the movie, Mariselvaraj makes us feel we are one of the people in the village. And I would say Karnan made an impact for the audience as intense as PP.! Also you remember this is a contemporary adaptation of mahabharata. Do all characters in Mahabharata has equal importance?. You dont suggest equal importance or to have some characters removed from Mahabaratam, do you?!
Mari is not preachy in this movie but BR has gone overboard with his mythology connect preachy over-reaction. Kairam of Film Companion has avoided BRs fault and done a great succint review.
Generally I watch your review and decide to watch the movie or not. But this time length of the video convinced me to watch the movie.😂 Will be back after watching the movie.❤️
One scene that I loved most and felt so light is Lal taking a 10/- and offering a kiss in return to the old lady. Beautiful scene!
That was one of the beautiful moments in the movie❤️which appeared so cute....
Where can I watch this movie?
@@surabhisingh801 Now in theaters. Not available online yet
Lal is a legendary actor ❤️
@@surabhisingh801 AMAZON PRIME VIDEO
The villager who considers helping an old bedridden lady to answer nature’s call more important than fetching a chair for the police officer ...
And the same lady wetting her bed when the war is on - excellent touches
Instablaster...
You know baddy loves a movie when his review is more than 15min long.
He received lot of flak for an interview with selva.. I think that's why he had to make this review longer to please a certain section of audience.. Hope u can understand how that interview is related to this movie review..but if baddy done in that intention to make the review longer , I don't feel its right.. Baddy was 100% right in selva's interview
@@vijayendranvijay4538 then he had reviewed lot of movies after the interview . So don't put your imaginations on this
@@santhoshkanna3670 true thats my opinion only but did he do any 16 min interviews after selva's one? For a caste based movie which tries to depict the higher caste ppl in poor light, do u think 16 min long review is necessary?
@@vijayendranvijay4538 yes I think 16 min is necessary. This is just to show the pain of people.not to show poor light on high caste people.so watch the flim twice and thn come and comment.there is a lot difference between caste movie and karnan
@@santhoshkanna3670 sorry bro.. I skip movies directed by ranjith and also other director's movie which are on the same lines.. They show only the plight of lower caste and depict the higher caste in poor light.. Showing ravanan as hero and ramar as villain in Kaala movie is one such example.. I have seen them saying mahabharata itself doesn't exist but not sure how they believe in ravanan alone😂... Even after 1000 yrs they take movies based on sufferings of lower caste which isn't true by any means... Once upon a time it was, but now the higher caste only are being treated as lower caste
We want deep focus with mari sir
@Taimur Mohamed 🤣🤣🤣
@Taimur Mohamed down astronomically 😳
Vada chennai, asuran, and now karnan 🔥🔥🔥🔥 only dhanush
Oppressed people will strive for Equality and Justice through Art forms. It's just the beginning..❤️🔥🔥
And education. That's important.
More than that EDUCATION is the primary bro
Only if they are educated They can question the injustice that happens against them
Hasn't the struggle always been there? Every generation? Every moment of this world: Someone is stronger than the other and someone always fights.
But still get suppressed, when they come out of theatres.
Instead of making them to ask questions why can't we teach others not to oppress..
The oppressor has to be shamed to death instead of educating oppressed to fight for their injustice..their education should not go just to fight their injustice...
The duration of this review itself tells so much about the movie.
8:21 At first his father refuses him from going back. But after sometime when Karnan anyway decides to go back we get to see his father stopping Karnan and giving him the sword and making sure that he doesn't go into the war unarmed.
Just after this particular moment we get to see Karnan's father sitting there smiling and watch Karnan go. And he then turns back to his daughter (coming from the water)with the same smile. His daughter claps at him.
I think it's actually his daughter who changed his mind from restraining Karnan. Thus the father looks back at her telling her that he had done what she told him to do and the daughter is applauding her father's act.
So, for me this scene justifies the earlier scene which shows the connection between Karnan's father and his sister.
Well said!
Yes true coming out from water and same time karnan fathers emotional smile is a classic moment ..
Yes. But Bharadwaj Rangan was trying to say that it could have been done differently. I mean the spirit entering his body and making him realize it than Karnan realizing it. That could have been fantatastic as well....
@@aneeshs113 yep bro I got that. But the subtility in this scene gave me more impact. As the connection was established earlier. Now she can communicate with her father in many ways. Also in here the girl must have also wanted to see her father change his stand (be man up in Karnan's language) and act brave. So her spirit coming in his body will again register as she telling Karnan to go. What if she wanted her father to instead???
The whole scene worked like that for me.
Sir, the whole film though clothed with a story , with a hero ,his family, friends and love.... I strongly believe that the director uses even those to symbolically convey a message. The hero here symbolises the courage, anxiety ,and pain in the new generation of a downtrodden society , the father is the symbol of an older generation , each of who are reluctant to do something about their fellow men's plight but worried only about their own even though each had suffered ( symbol of a daughter in the form of a spirit) in some way by the society that has ostracized them. But when the new generation is ready to up rise against the evil so the older generation not only has to relent but give them courage( the sword ) and support.
I just completed watching Karnan yesterday and I noticed the following things:
1. According to Mahabharat, Draupadi rejected Karan and insulted him when he wanted to participate in her swayamvar. But in Karnan, the girl Draupadi likes Karnan and he doesn't even notice that in the beginning.
2. The police officer is beating up people from Karnan's village in front of Babasaheb Ambedkar's picture. It might be done to show the hypocrisy of the society. A police station is respecting a lower caste person but disrespecting other lower caste people at the same time. The other interpretation can be the disrespect faced by Babasaheb himself in his struggle.
3. Karnan is having a sword and rides horse. Here there can be multiple interpretations. The first is lower caste people aren't allowed to carry a sword and ride horse but Karnan is doing it. The second reason can be connected to Mahabharat. In Mahabharat, Karan's adopted father was a horse rider.
4. When Karnan and others destroy the police station, Babasaheb's picture is shown again. They are fighting back against the system the way Babasaheb did.
5. A donkey is tied in the beginning of the movie. Karnan notices this but is advised not to free him. The donkey is Karnan's anger against the injustice. Karnan frees the donkey and unleashes his anger at the same time. The donkey and Karnan both feel free.
All these are my opinions only. They might be right or wrong.
Where can we watch karnan
When the girl with the mask was clapping in the end..... I thought lal's character would also appear with mask beside the girl...... That would have again be a goosebump moment!!
Same thought
Same here bro.
But it's only the children who turn to gods ig. Because they died young.
My opinion :
All the children wearing masks were killed without knowing the reason or problems around them. These pure souls became true gods of that very village with actual faces rather than the headless budhdha which has no identity. These gods guide the people towards freedom. But Lal on the other hand sacrificed him for the greater good.So showing him standing near the Gods will be a misleading narrative I guess.
The father was not aware of Lal's death.So would not make sense.
its high time dhanush release movies in all languages like a pan india one
I feel he has got that popularity and has grown higher than petrol prices in Lockdown period along with VJS
Exactly 👍👍
I don't think audience in the north have the maturity to understand or appreciate complex caste dynamics and the self awareness to digest it. And the troll army there will get easily offended.
@@ashishpadmanabhan not this movie but wat about Jagame Thanthiram the coming up with Karthick Naren
These movies we can keep it grounded here but wat about our content based commercial cinema something which kollywood mastered
Ghajini Thupakki Kathi Theri I'm sure u would find greater collection recognition the remakes proved it
Dhanush should do it
@@HariKrishna-lk5wx Ya true
@@ashishpadmanabhan but atleast in telugu and tamil. See dhanush is dubbing only maari 2, vip2 but not asuran, karnan
I strongly disagree with the fact that Rangan puts forth with his statement that the love portion with Rajisha Vijayan is unwanted and could have been flushed down. Without the love track, the character of Karnan would have had scenes that only show his anger and angst and we as the audience couldn't have connected with him. The whole climax wouldn't have been hard hitting as much if we didn't connect with the main character. Otherwise, the review is awesome as always. And Rajisha Vijayan's performance was good too.
Baddy's impressed 👍🏻❤️
I think we need directors cut version. We don't know how many scenes has been cut
கண்ணபிரான் தனக்கு நிகர் இல்லா ஒருவனிடம் தோல்வியுற்றதை நினைத்து மண் புழக்கலை எடுத்து மீன் பிடிக்க. கர்ணன் தண்ணீர்ல இறங்கி வால் எடுக்க யுத்தம் தொடங்கியது.
படத்தல நிறைய decode பன்னும் போல 😳
omg i am a keralite yet i was crying with the emotions of the people..such an epic movie..vere level padam..mari selvaraj hats off...santosh musical uff touching...gem of a movie..national award loading!!
Onnu podo. Moonchiya padam
@@ss2629 u r tite.... Even as a tamilan i don't like it.... But his last movie pariyerum perumal was awesome....
@@ss2629 ningalk mathram aanu ajith moonjiya padam ayit thoniyath
The length of the review says so much about brilliance of the #Karnan. #MariSelvaraj and #Dhanush are on fire.
Has there been any review from Baddy lengthier than this? Just curious..
Overated bullshit film
Whatever Karnan missed in Mahabarata because he is from oppressed caste was given here in this movie by Mariselvaraj to karnan like loving Mom , lover Draupathi and mentor(lal) how clever portraying this
brilliant
This is the baddy that initially I got drawn to.. right from his days of print review in The Hindu.. I felt off late he was going too mainstream and doing too many interviews.. stuff like this is gold standard of reviewing a film
Dhanush
1.Polladhavan
2.Aadukalam
3.Mayakkam Enna
4.VIP
5.Asuran
6.Karnan
7.Thiruchitrambalam
This gun is not quick today!
Yes, all you said is right BR... Every film is a big struggle - I feel Bhavani's ostrich story.. So I think we can only appreciate this movie with full heartedly.
Actually those Draupathy(Heroine)scenes there because in real karnan they both won't even touch each other that's why mari selvaraj wants to rewrite it and make them close
One of the best and detailed reviews I came across for Karnan.. good work BR!
We want a Masterclass with Mari Selvaraj please ❤️😎.
Finally the most awaited review from Baddy!
We want KARNAN film in hindi version as early as possible.
South Cinema is really appreciate to represent our indian common masses social issues with Anti-caste Academic discourse.
Not entire South... it is only possible in Tamil nadu and kerala.
@@adhussey9782 then how possible in tamil nadu
Amazon prime has bagged the digital rights hope they release in Hindi version too you should wait for little longer
@@Mahesh-mn8ws northies are still evolving bro 😂
@@akashmuruganandam1462 bro I'm a North Indian from Chandigarh . I accept here most of the audience is still watching stupid movies and making mostly gems flop and also judging South Indian movies by mostly action mass dubbed movies . But it's also pretty evident a lot of people like me also wants to watch gems of Tamil, malyalam and some of kannada and Telugu cinema . However I watch movies with in original language as I hate dubbed version but a lot of people want it to be dubbed. I have been watching these movies even way before Bahubali . I love a lot a lot of actors down south in commercial aspect in content aspect and there people also. But plzz don't try to pull us down like that bro its not right man .
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Sir mind you that iam not from mari's community so I have no emotional investment in the movie. but hailing from tutucorin I can truly understand the pain he is trying to pass on to the audience . I felt pain and anger against the people I call relatives, friends ,family and neighbors after seeing this movie . that is the victory of this movie and its director
But that is not the reason I bat for him. he did make movie with a panache! A true talented film maker. I can write a booklet with all the symbols he is used , with a 'purpose' and not overdoing it as this reviewer states
Not taking anything from them if balachander sir ,balumahendra sir and mahendran sir could be called master craftsmen because of the way the treated their craft( true, they earned their credentials, ). Their movie making was unique . so does mari. No exaggeration but he can be put in the same bracket as those veterans. Pardon me if I hurt some sentiments. The above said men spoke of relationship and conflicts between individuals and their inner conflicts and how those affect the community as a whole , but here is a director speaking of relationship and conflicts between communities, which is true and existing and affecting all of us even now. And he is doing it so beautifully. Pls gave him his due. HE IS HIGH CLASS . pun not intended
A complete quality film and high competitive for vetrimaran, these both gonna get tamil cinema to better heights
The duration of his review is enough to show how much he loves the movie & how much it’s worth 💥💯
Karn can win Draupadi swayamvar but he was not allowed to do it. He was also not allowed to be taught by Druna but here he got finally a chance to be an army person. The movie tries to overcome Karn's suffereings of Mahabharata. The boy who takes care of the horse never rides it. It is the representation of Mahabarata (sudra).
தமிழர் உரிமை காக்க வேண்டும் ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
இனி தலைகுனிய மாட்டோம்.
சாதி மத நல்லிணக்கம் பாதுகாக்க வேண்டும்.
கர்ணன் படம் வெற்றி வாழ்த்துக்கள் ♥️♥️♥️♥️
Stopped exactly at 2:23, Thanks BR 👍 Will continue after watching the movie!
Some of the best silhouettes that I have seen in a film!
The montage in the beginning and the climax are 🔥
Just finished watching the movie. Ngl. This is the best movie from our Tamil Cinema since Soorarai Pottru. Karnan was an intense, violent, haunting yet powerful film made by Mari Selvaraj and Performed by Dhanush. First Applause to Mari Selvaraj for taking such a Hard Hitting subject. He created an imaginary world and allowed us to roam with his characters. Karnan and his villagers doesn't even looks or sounds like actors, as they were filmed in such a lively method by DOP Theni Eswar. Dhanush literally carried the whole movie with his eyes, shoulders, Hand, Legs etc. Dude was just more than an actor. Santhosh Narayanan was the Back Bone. He composed a BGM which was both smooth and haunting at the same time. The Bloodshed in Fight scenes was spine chilling. Props to those make up artists.
Please go and watch the movie only in theatres wearing mask.✌❤
Seeing you as a lover of art cinema, being a Thalapathy fanatic myself, don't u think Vijay can try an offbeat original series on netflix or prime where we can see a pure, subtle, raw Vijay.. Imagine Vijay in the role of Billy Butcher in Boys.. I mean it would be sooo goood!!
Actually I think there was a scene which soorarai potru could have avoided
There were some comments about it even here in FCS cmt section
but as a hardcore Suriya fan ot was just the comeback we needed
And btw wats ur opinion on Thalapathy 65
Don't u think it would be like thupakki or action with dark comedy combined??
@@karthikramm1725 ya it would be exotic bro
U indeed have a great imagination
@Akash Akks It wasn't shitty. Just has some poor writing, still Suriya elevated those scenes. Afterall it's my opinion
@@karthikramm1725 Me as a Thalapathy addict waiting for that too nanba✌
Mari Selvaraj is bringing a dimension for the audience to think and reflect for themselves through his movies.Kudos to him.
Haven't seen the movie yet. Hence not watching this now. Could have done the breakdown analysis separately after two three days.
Deadly waiting for the OTT release..
Feel it in theater bro if possible
In prime..after 30 days
@@charlesrajw I'm from Andhrapradesh bro..
@@renukuntladinakaran6960 What to do ..will wait.. because I'm from Andhrapradesh..
@@rajeshkasakani7374 yeah same here from Hyderabad
What took you SO long, Baddy?! Been waiting since morning!!
Longest review I had ever watch in my entire life...🔥🔥🔥
The scene at the police station where the officer asks the village head that by naming himself “Duryodanan” did he think that he would become a King really gave me chills
there is nobody in Telugu industry who can make such type of films.. and even worse there is nt a single movie critic that can analyse like Mr Rangan does in TFI. Tamil films blend Art with Commerce so beautifully that in itself is an Art.
True. I wish our "super stars" have the courage to dive in to this kind of movies. NTR did maybe 3 that brought his acting to the fore front but no one in current Tollywood will have any legacy with their resume.
Few years ago, I've seen Rangasthalam. It was good.
@@vigneshnr only good movie by Charan. NTR did well in Rakhi, Yama donga. Mostly its the new comers that make good movies.
Mari Selvaraj is a world class director he doesn't have any language barriers for his creation another mastercraft from him ,truly admirable
I felt movie could have started from utradheenga appov song instead of Kanda vara sollunga, bcoz Kanda vara sollunga had lot of emotions, it was eerie and was in praise of a person called karnan,
With an audience who just walked and sat to watch this made very little sense , in a way I felt it more like a masala movie hero intro song, than conveying the raw emotion of karnan and the struggle he got.. also after the climax when this song was placed it would have given much more impact than now, bocz by the time the war in climax was done most of the audience had a sense of anger and heavy heart.. instead starting with utradheenga , where karanan walks with sword and rain and the whole village is preparing for something,.. so it would have given us a perspective to know why karnan is furious what is the village preparing for !
#askbr
I'm surprised Baddy didn't talk about the lip sync issues in the movie.
Can understand for Lal since he is a Malayalee but still lip sync issue distracts me from the movie. Even Dhanush had lip sync issues here
Support kind of movies...it stage our indian cinema in global platform
In that village, girls who die before getting married are considered as gods. And yes, I believe that the god character with the masked face emerges again when Karnan's dad pleads him to leave the village. He gives his son the sword and turns back to view his daughter clapping for her dad's act.
Waiting for your review Bh. Rangan sir, thx
Biggest review of. Br in recent times
Quick Gun Rangan has become Slow n Steady Rangan for Mari Selvaraj. Says a lot about the movie.
Brilliant movie. Great actors, great direction. Admiration from a Telugu guy.
I always expect a written review from Mr. Baradwaj Rangan {DOT}
One of the greatest piece of cinema I've ever watched ❤️
Karnan was a good movie. I got goosebumps at some moments. But I think something went wrong about the movie. It didn't give the feeling that asuran and pariyerum perumal gave after watching. BR gave exactly the review that I would give. Along with the pros he also gives the cons. Paid reviewers, they only give good reviews.
I got same feeling as well - felt film lost the plot in second half - nowhere near pariyerum perumal- Okay watch
@@kartvicka3646 Exactly
Asuran was vetrimaaran's worst movie, it has the worst second half of any of vetrimaaran's movie, it is the only movie that left no impact for me whatsoever.
IMDb rating 9.2 /10 ❤💪
#Karnan
3:29 - Native village gods: The term you're looking for is "tutelary deities"...
Kurundheivangal he means
ANUPAMA Chopra : Selvaraj converts seething rage into blazing Cenema! Wow A mind boggling one line review.
Aduthu enna?? mari selvaraj a koopdunga pa
Baddy kooda innoru interview confirm !!! 😄😄
I am furious this film hasn't released in telugu..not even with subtitles..😔
Even if this film realese now I. Telugu too .no use cuz vakeel saab is runnning with bb talks
I'm sure it will be released in ott soon with subs✌️
even vadachennai wasn't realised in telugu
இப்போது இந்த கர்ணன் , அசுரன் வகை படங்களுக்கும் இதற்கு முன் வந்த சாதிய படங்களுக்கும் சில வேறுபாடுகள் உள்ளது.முந்தையது தங்கள் சாதிக்குள் நடக்கிற யுத்தத்தை காட்டும்.உதாரணம் தேவர் மகன்,விருமாண்டி படத்திலெல்லாம் நாயகனும்,வில்லனும் ஒரே சமூகத்தை சேர்ந்தவர்கள்.ஆனால் தற்போது இன்னொரு சமூகம் முழுக்க கெட்டவனாக சித்தரிக்கப்படுவது,ஒரு அரசியல் பிரச்சார நோக்கம் கொண்டது என்று சொல்லும் குரல்களை புறந்தள்ளக் கூடாது.
ஒரு சமூக இணைவை தடுக்கும் பிரச்சாரத்தை தவிர்த்துவிட்டு தங்கள் வரலாற்றை பதிய வைக்கும்,வாழ்வியலை எடுத்துச் சொல்லும் சினிமாவை கொடுக்க முயல வேண்டும்.இன்னொரு ஜாதியை வில்லனாக சித்தரித்தால் இதற்கு பதில் சொல்ல இன்னொரு படம் வரும்.இப்படியே போனால் இவை சமூக அமைதியின்மையை மட்டுமே உண்டு செய்யும் களத்தில்.அந்த அமைதியின்மையை விரும்புகிறவர்களின் ஊதுகுழலாக மாறத் துடிப்பவர்களிடம் எல்லோருமே உஷாராக இருக்க வேண்டியது கட்டாயம்.
Very sensible genuine review.good work.
BR's review should be watched only after we see the movie. I feel he gives away too much that can spoil our viewing experience!
yes but here he has given a spoiler warning
If equality is the moral of the day see how baddy treats all movies unbiased during review. Perceptive and honest.
Waiting for the deep focus episode with mari Selvaraj for karnan.
Wow! This is what I call a review or sharing the real experience of the mind of the creater Mari Selvaraj. Now I realize why you got a national award as a film critic.
ஒடுக்கப்பட்ட மக்களின் வாழ்வியலை, ஒரு வாளை மையமாகக் கொண்டு விளக்க முயற்சித்த இயக்குனரின் எண்ண ஓட்டத்தையும், சிந்தனையையும் பாராட்டுகின்றேன்.மேலும் தனுஷ் அவர்கள் இந்த படத்தில் நடிப்பையும் மீறி கர்ணன் ஆகவே வாழ்ந்துள்ளார். இந்த படத்தின் காட்சியமைப்பும் ஒளிப்பதிவும் எதார்த்தத்தின் உச்ச நிலையில் உள்ளது. Reality show பார்க்கும் சில மனிதர்களுக்கு கர்ணன் படத்தில் கூறப்படும் மக்களின் எதார்த்த வாழ்க்கையை புரிந்து கொள்வது சற்று கடினம் இருந்த போதிலும் இதை புரிந்து கொள்ள முயற்சிப்போம். இந்தப்படம் பெரியார், அம்பேத்கார், மற்றும் பாரதியாரின் ஆகியவர்களின் மையக் கருத்துக்கள் ஆன சமூக நீதியை வெளிப்படுத்தும் வகையில் திரைப்படம் ஆக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. #psychosocial_review_for_karnan_Tamil_movie
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Born of Mind
Yes!!! you are right...Dhanush is the best today!!!.He always sets new goals to achieve and strives to outperform...he does...everytime!!!
Ahh BR! 16:09 long review flatters this movie.
I expected much more from Karnan especially after Mari's interview with you on Pariyerum Perumal and felt utterly disappointed. From the review, may be I was wrong, but kind of felt you were dissapointed too, and finding reasons to like the movie. :)
Surprised you have mentioned about 'One story' syndrome too. Exactly what I thought while coming out of theater but opposite to your view. I thought may be Mari didn't have a story to tell beyond Pariyerum Perumal. May be that's why he was hiding the ultra thin story of Karnan behind the shots of location and all those creatures(which becomes tiresome after a while). Much like Joji, where Dileesh dwells on extra long shots of locations to distract the viewers from the story(or lack of). At least Joji was a gripping narrative, while Karnan, except for its moments, was a predictable borefest. 16 minute review can't mask it. :)
I felt somewhat the same...needed some more grip in the script
Baddy mentioning about the race scene..👌🏽
First time, i saw quickgun rangan review for 16min. ( before start watching the video)
Im a simple man.
I see an Excellent movie and have some takeaways
And i visit FC South to hear BR Review the film.
Just Bliss....
Hey, I wish you could talk more about police atrocities. Ultimately, it boils down to one thing. A visionary and shrewd official would never be cowed down by political bosses.
I think you gave a not biased review. Thanks.
I didn't realise the police inspector character Kannapiraan is an implicit reference to Lord Krishna.. That's Baddy for you 😊😊
Ya that actually confused me. Can you explain how kannabiran is Krishna in context to Mahabharata and this movie?
Regarding the mention of Karnan's dad having vision of his deceased daughter not having a payoff in second half - I have a different view. If the father made him go back only on the vision of that spirit, it leaves him and Karnan only as taking her orders without making a decision themselves. However Dhanush decides on his own to go back, and he does mention that the voices of the oppressed villagers is ringing in his head. And his father decides to send him back thereby making the painful decision himself. This is what the spirit later cheers on by clapping hands. This moment is better as it is in the movie.
Really appreciate your analysis on movies , they are so decriptive and well done ! keep it coming
just finished watching the film and i am in loss of words... whoa!
BR missed to mention the amazing work of the art department and the set pieces. 💥 I'm sure he ll mention them in the detailed AskBR episode.
Anantnag sir in kalyug is amazing
Please Do watch Puttanna kangal s paduvaaralli pandavaru social adoption of Mahabharata which came 3 years earlier than Kalyug
Am I the only one who felt it was missing smthng we got in pariyarum perumal.that authenticity was missing in karnan .it felt more like a hero dhanushs commercial movie with a good story than a mari Selvaraj movie.and that vittrathinge yemmov was out of rythm of movie.And rajisha and gouri was not at all needed in movie.
No you are not alone...even I felt the same
Same here
felt that the conflict was not strong enough
Think most of us felt that. But again we need to consider that they are two different stories.. and this one is something that happened a few decades back
Ngl I felt the same when I listened to that song like how tf this song will fit in the movie. Then I watched the movie yesterday it fit really well in that situation.
Yes you're right .
One of Best Indian movies ever made!
Nah
😂never
Maybe you should edit it to "one of the best Indian movie I've ever seen"
i also like the scene-setting inside the room where dhanush confronts the policeman and there is a light behind him and natty fells down the same light falls on him.
oh yes Kalyug, this is an epic movie, master piece of shyam benegal. thanks for refreshing my memory.
There were more Aerial Shots and Silhouette shots. Unusually high in numbers.
"It will be great if you give 2 reviews for one movie. One review for the people who had watched the movie with spoilers and another review for the people who haven't watched the movie without spoilers." Most of the people watch reviews to decide whether to spend money and time on a movie or not. After few days of the movie release you could have discussed these spoilers in #AskBR section like you usually do..
Baddy I still feel that it is more of Dhanush Movie than Maari Movie. I was disappointed because of that.
This is what happens when a reviewer doesn’t know the history. This movie is based in kodiyankulam police brutality which happened in 1996.. based on real incident 🤦🏻
When the movie is great the gun is slower😂
I Love listening to you sir.
Mari just nailed it ..if u don't have a knowledge about the core concept u can't review it just for the sake of *** ...
6:48 - Its not fair to compare Pariyerum Perumal (PP) with Karnan as is. In PP, the theme of the movie revolves around the conflicts the hero goes through.
In karnan, more than dhanush, Kodiyankulam village is the hero. At the end of the movie, Mariselvaraj makes us feel we are one of the people in the village. And I would say Karnan made an impact for the audience as intense as PP.!
Also you remember this is a contemporary adaptation of mahabharata. Do all characters in Mahabharata has equal importance?. You dont suggest equal importance or to have some characters removed from Mahabaratam, do you?!
Baddy Praises other mundane movies with a cooler lence but when a movie like Karan comes alone...badly takes his magnifying glass.
Pretty much
Mari is not preachy in this movie but BR has gone overboard with his mythology connect preachy over-reaction. Kairam of Film Companion has avoided BRs fault and done a great succint review.
Wow, ur review created more enthu to watch this movie to soon....
Generally I watch your review and decide to watch the movie or not. But this time length of the video convinced me to watch the movie.😂 Will be back after watching the movie.❤️
Seriously ur a true reviewers fed up watching so called review by panda
Love from Sydney Australia
Konja slow va pesalame.. onnum puriyala thala 😂🤓😅
May be the best review Mr. Rangan has ever done and certainly the best Karnan can get
12:39 Like Bat Man. A Symbol represented
Prakash Jha's Rajneeti is on the same lines of Karna's story.