Wow, horrible manual driving, guys you dont have to rev to 6k rpm and drop the clutch for launch. Try 3000 rpm and go from there, push the clutch all the way in and know your point of engagement. Its not rocket science
@@7g6_66 nice man, I'm debating on going j32a3 or j35a6. I got 184k miles on my j30a5 and timing belt snapped on it at 177k miles so I got lucky once. Mine just had PNP j35a8 intake manifold, throttle body and intake runners, 3.5" intake, PCD's and mdx manifold spacer. Debating if I want to finish the j-pipe and exhaust worn and get it tuned or just swap motor out.
Obviously there is a skill lacking in you guys to effectively row those gears. I’ve owned my manual 2.5ltr 3 hatch for 2yrs and I’ll keep it for a while. I’m not old enough at 58 to drive a boringmatic. Also who give a flying fart that the auto gets to the corner shop or to the next set of lights in .06 of sec faster. A manual is more exciting and fun to drive. 🇦🇺 🦘 😜
This "thing" didn't stall rather, YOU stalled this thing!! C'mon now let's be fair, you messed up the launch, don't blame it on the car. Better brush up on how to drive a stick my friend.
Maaan, you are so lucky in Canada that you got the new gen Forte5 GT. I waited almost 3 years for that to release in the US but Kia only gave us the sedan. I had to go with the Elantra GT Sport instead and although it's got more premium features than the Forte5 and the same powerplant, I really prefer the styling of the Kia more. That, and this new gen is almost like a wagon, but the GT Sport still has plenty of room, esp cargo. And the 1.6T is quick for what it is.
@84jdgregory "for what it is" most compacts in the class are slow slow, have a cvt, sub 1.5l & tuned for fuel economy. I'm speaking in relativity, they're about as "quick" as a Mk6.5-Mk7 GLi which isnt terrible for the class. As far as reliability, that GT Sport was the least reliable car I've ever owned lol. My 1.6t had tons of issues, same for the 7spd DCT, & a bunch of qc problems. I'm in an 2023 A4 Allroad Black Optics S-Line & much more happy with reliability, & quality. That GT Sport fwiw had a ton of bang for your buck tho. I paid $21k otd for it CPO back in the day & the list of premium features was a bargain for that price.
If one can’t drive stick properly, they wouldn’t know. Against many modern automatics, you can even smoke them right off the line & don’t even have to play catch-up in 3rd gear (when you generally blaze by them due to your extra gears & whatnot).
@@BrottenGuy As someone who has always driven manual and loves manual gearboxes, they're just not faster than automatics 90% of the time, as much as we would like to believe otherwise. At least not in drag racing.
@@BW_Drums Depends. I mean, maybe not what someone might call “legit” drag. Street racing, without governors taken off, top speed is high. So, now. You might not win a drag, either it’s a quick burst…unless you burn the clutch, which is what pro racers DO. They don’t govern a crap about clutch’s and just tear their gears to get there…making them faster. Lol!
@@BW_Drums autos are also boring, as hell. Lol! There’s little “skill” to it. It’s all just your timing off the line, and then holding your drive line. Thats not “real racing”, to me
The Mazda 3 Turbo doesn’t stand a chance against two DCT cars with limited slip diffs, the Elantra is probably gonna win but it and the GTI would walk the Mazda.
@@BrownSofaGamer thing is I've seen maybe 1 or 2 videos of the mazda taking the gti from car review chanels with a good amount of followers and also seen others where gti wins so thats why requested that race I think it would be a pretty good one
When the Elantra N is released for sale, I can't wait to see the race. The Elantra N will destroy both of those cars though if the Veloster N is any indication, especially with the DCT.
@Rob K. I never said it would compete with the Golf R, the Golf R is also more costly as well. According to the times I have seen for the GTI though, I believe the Elantra N will be faster still. Again based off the Veloster N DCT times, since it is the same powertrain, however, with an additional 1hp and 39 ft lbs of torque.
To really fit into the right category of base models equalling golf/elantra/3, gti/elantra gt/3 gt; it would need to be gti clubsport/elantra n/ 3 gt with a mild tune. That would be more accurate as the gti goes head to head with the veloster/elantra turbo power wise.
The Kia makes alot of torque low to high-mid RPM.. For the other driver to pin the throttle and dump the clutch for a launch isn't effective, i have driven that Hyundai/Kia 1.6T quite abit and if ur at a light 3 gran get it rolling punch it and it still wheel spin in first gear..
@@FirstDefenceGaming yep.. he probably didn't have it very long and he might not have it much longer either sad to say, with his technique that clutch is gona be roasted in no time or worse
@@joebrown9621 maybe but the 2010 forte I had was manual and first it was my moms car then I bought it off her in high school and 2 years after that I delivered pizza for 3 years in it and it had 150,000 on it with a stock clutch my mom drove it forever I learned in it taught my best friend and girlfriend how to drive stick in it i never once had more than tire or brake replacements and other normal wear parts/maintenance on it for my 6 ish years of owning it and my mom could say the same Kia’s are built to last
The DCT is much faster, did you record any times? 0-60 and Quarter miles? With mine, the gt sedan, i am quicker than the Civic SI, little bit slower than the Accord 2.0T on 0-60, but not that much...Anyway, aother good one Sam..🤙
Thank you for the video. What tires were you running on the Kia cause I know they have a tire option to go from the all seasons to pilot sport summer tires.
What makes you so confident? If all 3 were MT’s, its a drivers race, buddy. If we’re talking automatics, well…idk much about the Forte5 as in the US we dont get those, however, there’s a channel PDrive tv “2019 kia cerato GT(turbo) that has it at 6.95 to 100 km/h (approx 6.75 sec in mph) And 1/4 mile at 15 @ 97.7 mph……….dct. And the Forte GT (sedan) is doing 6.4 sec 0-60, and 14.65@ 97 mph….dct. I dont think Civic Sport would be anywhere near, all things being equal (same rxn time, good take off/little spinning for all)… Edit: that being said , the 6at mazda would fall behind. There’s a video, btw, by throttle house with a sedan civic 1.5t vs mazda 3 2.5.
I have an Elantra GT Sport with the 1.6T but the 7spd DCT and I get 0-60 times between 6s - 6.3s everytime. It out performs the 1.5T Sport & Si which is also recorded by a bunch of different journalists. This is the same powerplant that's in this Forte5, although that was manual and there's a pretty significant difference in 0-60 between the DCT & manual. The DCT is about half a second quicker.
@@M4B21S88 yes, the 1.6T is quicker than the 1.5T in the Civic Sport & Si, esp with the DCT. Not sure where op is getting his info but I'm assuming it was just his opinion.
@@_dmfd the Elantra GT has not once gotten under a 6.3 sec 0-60. Yes the GT versions and N Line versions are faster than the CVT civic, for $4,000 more lol. But I’d take the .5 second slower Civic for more reliability, better looks, more fun. Also rather have the resale value and tuning ability of the civic. But base, yeah maybe
I thought the same. Watching that third run, without the Kia’s Sport Mode on (I have a 2021 Forte. The Sport Mode actually DOES make a HUGE difference on acceleration and handling/suspension), I worried for its chances. Then, I watched it shift into 3rd & just BLAZE by the Mazda. What do ya expect..? Mazda is owned & made by Ford. They only pay attention to the Mustangs & F-X50 models. Lol!
This is an example of "reading the manual", cars don't give 100% power at 6k rpm, they do it on a specifically rpm, above that u don't need to push gas harder but to change gear...
@@SamCarLegion really Sam, hear me out. The Kia Forte GT is actually about 0.1 seconds quicker 1/4-mile and a slightly faster trap speed than a manual G70 2.0T. It will be a shocker.
@@bondedstars please explain how that's an unreasonable request? They're evenly matched and represent some of the best values in their respective segments.
The base prices are all messed up here. The forte5 gt starts at 22,790 and the Mazda 3 hatch base price starts at 22,650. However the Mazda 3 turbo hatch begins pricing at 31,500 and would be in a whole different league.
@@christopherajayi6299 haha not only that I love the way the Mazda’s look over the Kias. I think so far the only good looking non broke looking Kia is the stinger. Like the forte 5 GT looks so ugly
I never understood why would he make the Porsche headlights for the front end every time I look in traffic it looks the a Porsche in front and Audi A3 rear
Next go round, I’ll fly up and drive the manuals for you guys. Cause this was painful to watch. I’m so serious too. I work for the airlines and will give my free time to you! Just respond if you’re interested.
We have just a 2021 Forte base….it’s like 3rd level up or whatever (there’s only EIGHT models. Lol?)… I gotta tell ya, the Sport Mode even in an automatic….thing actually has some good pep, to it. I was a bit surprised. So, having over 200-hp, in utilizing a Turbo…? I could do a LOT, with that. Buuuut….ya gotta get better at that shifting, Homie. Lol! I’m 41, been street racing since I was 16. I agree with what someone else said, the shifting looked PAINFUL. Haha!
If you think the mazda wasnt driven well, the Forte was driven worse. Lesson here: turbo cars are not to be driven like NA cars. The forte makes peak torque at 1500 rpms, so no need to launch the shit out of it, just give it a little rev.. Neither are WRXs that can handle aggressive launches at take off (fwd). Forte being turbo, you dont redline it, ideal shifts happen between 5900-6100 rpms, redlining it means it was put outside its powerband briefly with every shift. This was horrible for both, but mainly for the turbo car.
@@M4B21S88 A turbo engine makes its max torque only if the turbo is at full boost, if you just give it a litttle rev the turbo won't be anywhere near full boost at 1500 rpm and it will make much less than the max figure.
forte gt dct is alway the way to go. manual is not really quick. manual does a 6.7sec to 60 and dct is 6.3; dct would've been quicker if it wasn't for the transmission delay from a dig. probably want to protect transmission life or else it would have been under 6 secs.
Mazda went upmarket so the decision to make at the present price points in 2023 is: Luxurious materials, reliability, and refinement of the Mazda 3 or the fun and greater rear seat and cargo space of the Forte GT. Only one will prevail and it's Kia lol Kia is selling way more cars. I'm also an American desperately wanting the Forte5 but I ordered a 2023 GT Manual sedan. I think it's wild that somehow the USA isn't a viable market for a near-wagon. Too many bullshit crossovers on the road I guess.
@@reconsilver5961 no, people just forget Mazda is also about reliability which is why you seem them in many top reviews. While this race shows a faster KIA, it also doesn't show the longevity and reliability and I guarantee you won't want that KIA past 100k miles while the Mazda will easily pass 200k
@@Anakin0217 Not against the Mazda. It's not that fast. How was it able to pass the Mazda 3 hatchback? I rented one the other day, and we were both going 131 mph, and the Elantra was one car length ahead of the Mazda 3 top end with the 2.5 engine but the NA 2.5 Mazda can keep up with the 1.6 turbocharged Kia that means the elantra can keep up with the 1.6 cuz the 2.0 Elantra can pass the Mazda 3 which has 186 NA hp vs. 150 hp NA
@@Yondaily dude. What? lol I think youre confusing the Mazda 3 with 150 hp and Mazda 3 with 186 hp(2.5). The 2.0 IVT Elantras/Fortes are nowhere near the 1.6t. The 1.6t in the Forte GT is a mid 6 sec car, the 2.0 IVTs are close to the Corolla's 8 sec range, 16 ish sec 1/4 mile trapping 85 mph? vs 96-97 on the 1.6t... youre confused.
Wow, horrible manual driving, guys you dont have to rev to 6k rpm and drop the clutch for launch. Try 3000 rpm and go from there, push the clutch all the way in and know your point of engagement. Its not rocket science
I had manual Sonata and destroyed cars with +30hp difference by revving to 3k rpm
Looks like I’m gonna have to take a flight to Canada so i can show Sam and the other guy to drive stick 😂 all love y’all
Fellow 6-6 owner?? Anything done to it? I got a 06 6-6 sedan.
Lol. Only og's now of days really know how to bang them gears. It's sad to see the end of manual transmission go.
@@tornes19 hell yeah I’ve got an 05 6-6 coupe, that’s j32 swapped with bolt ons, brand new coilivers and a bunch of other stuff
@@7g6_66 nice man, I'm debating on going j32a3 or j35a6. I got 184k miles on my j30a5 and timing belt snapped on it at 177k miles so I got lucky once. Mine just had PNP j35a8 intake manifold, throttle body and intake runners, 3.5" intake, PCD's and mdx manifold spacer. Debating if I want to finish the j-pipe and exhaust worn and get it tuned or just swap motor out.
Obviously there is a skill lacking in you guys to effectively row those gears. I’ve owned my manual 2.5ltr 3 hatch for 2yrs and I’ll keep it for a while. I’m not old enough at 58 to drive a boringmatic. Also who give a flying fart that the auto gets to the corner shop or to the next set of lights in .06 of sec faster. A manual is more exciting and fun to drive. 🇦🇺 🦘 😜
The shifting looked painful 😂
As an Englishman living in Canada the poor shifting of gears from both drivers was painful to watch 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This "thing" didn't stall rather, YOU stalled this thing!! C'mon now let's be fair, you messed up the launch, don't blame it on the car. Better brush up on how to drive a stick my friend.
I can smell those clutches from here lol
That’s because they failed to install a
stage 3 clutch kit...
Hahahahahaha.... Perfect comment!
That driving was hard to watch. Maybe stick to autos.
Although i like hearing "lets go Mazda", i love my KIA to much. Time to get Fortefied.
I have a Mazda and a Kia, not sure which one to route for lol
@@TheEMan621 not a bad problem. Haha. Nice rides.
Maaan, you are so lucky in Canada that you got the new gen Forte5 GT. I waited almost 3 years for that to release in the US but Kia only gave us the sedan. I had to go with the Elantra GT Sport instead and although it's got more premium features than the Forte5 and the same powerplant, I really prefer the styling of the Kia more. That, and this new gen is almost like a wagon, but the GT Sport still has plenty of room, esp cargo. And the 1.6T is quick for what it is.
I've had my Forte5 SX since 2017. There's nothing "quick" about it. It's reliable though.
@84jdgregory "for what it is" most compacts in the class are slow slow, have a cvt, sub 1.5l & tuned for fuel economy. I'm speaking in relativity, they're about as "quick" as a Mk6.5-Mk7 GLi which isnt terrible for the class. As far as reliability, that GT Sport was the least reliable car I've ever owned lol. My 1.6t had tons of issues, same for the 7spd DCT, & a bunch of qc problems. I'm in an 2023 A4 Allroad Black Optics S-Line & much more happy with reliability, & quality. That GT Sport fwiw had a ton of bang for your buck tho. I paid $21k otd for it CPO back in the day & the list of premium features was a bargain for that price.
@@84jdgregory reliable until the engine catches on fire while you’re cruising down the highway.
@@Zachsquatchin you can say that about any car.
See these races are lovable because of the variables and the manual transmissions make it interesting.
The problem with manual races is you introduce another variable in the drag. A large variable at that.
But MUCH better & faster
If one can’t drive stick properly, they wouldn’t know. Against many modern automatics, you can even smoke them right off the line & don’t even have to play catch-up in 3rd gear (when you generally blaze by them due to your extra gears & whatnot).
@@BrottenGuy As someone who has always driven manual and loves manual gearboxes, they're just not faster than automatics 90% of the time, as much as we would like to believe otherwise. At least not in drag racing.
@@BW_Drums Depends. I mean, maybe not what someone might call “legit” drag. Street racing, without governors taken off, top speed is high. So, now. You might not win a drag, either it’s a quick burst…unless you burn the clutch, which is what pro racers DO. They don’t govern a crap about clutch’s and just tear their gears to get there…making them faster. Lol!
@@BW_Drums autos are also boring, as hell. Lol! There’s little “skill” to it. It’s all just your timing off the line, and then holding your drive line.
Thats not “real racing”, to me
Let's get the hyundai elantra N vs Mazda3 turbo vs Golf gti?
The Mazda 3 Turbo doesn’t stand a chance against two DCT cars with limited slip diffs, the Elantra is probably gonna win but it and the GTI would walk the Mazda.
@@BrownSofaGamer thing is I've seen maybe 1 or 2 videos of the mazda taking the gti from car review chanels with a good amount of followers and also seen others where gti wins so thats why requested that race I think it would be a pretty good one
When the Elantra N is released for sale, I can't wait to see the race. The Elantra N will destroy both of those cars though if the Veloster N is any indication, especially with the DCT.
@Rob K.
I never said it would compete with the Golf R, the Golf R is also more costly as well. According to the times I have seen for the GTI though, I believe the Elantra N will be faster still. Again based off the Veloster N DCT times, since it is the same powertrain, however, with an additional 1hp and 39 ft lbs of torque.
To really fit into the right category of base models equalling golf/elantra/3, gti/elantra gt/3 gt; it would need to be gti clubsport/elantra n/ 3 gt with a mild tune.
That would be more accurate as the gti goes head to head with the veloster/elantra turbo power wise.
The guy in the Mazda doesn’t know how to shift properly
We all agree.
The Kia makes alot of torque low to high-mid RPM.. For the other driver to pin the throttle and dump the clutch for a launch isn't effective, i have driven that Hyundai/Kia 1.6T quite abit and if ur at a light 3 gran get it rolling punch it and it still wheel spin in first gear..
Gotta watch out for wheel hop so roll on is the best way, my Elantra sport hates hard launches, the Kia driver probably hasent had the car very long
@@FirstDefenceGaming yep.. he probably didn't have it very long and he might not have it much longer either sad to say, with his technique that clutch is gona be roasted in no time or worse
@@joebrown9621 maybe but the 2010 forte I had was manual and first it was my moms car then I bought it off her in high school and 2 years after that I delivered pizza for 3 years in it and it had 150,000 on it with a stock clutch my mom drove it forever I learned in it taught my best friend and girlfriend how to drive stick in it i never once had more than tire or brake replacements and other normal wear parts/maintenance on it for my 6 ish years of owning it and my mom could say the same Kia’s are built to last
I don't think it was mentioned but the Forte5 is not available in the US but is in Canada. US only gets the Forte sedan.
Yeah sucks. 😭
What about racing the2021 kia forte auto CVT vs the 2022 Honda civic sport CVT
Let's go Mazda
Can you race a Forte GT vs Elantra N line?
I think that is the same car.
Same platform. GT DCT will take. Agree with slow launch but seems to have gotten better when i turn everything off.
Let's stay with autos guys! This was painful!
The DCT is much faster, did you record any times? 0-60 and Quarter miles? With mine, the gt sedan, i am quicker than the Civic SI, little bit slower than the Accord 2.0T on 0-60, but not that much...Anyway, aother good one Sam..🤙
Ur quicker than a civic si in ur Mazda3 ?
@@diegosoto8620 not mazda 3. With Forte Gt dct...
And about 1K less. I got the manual anyways because it's my daily driver
Sad that we don’t get the Forte5 GT in the US anymore 😭
I know :(
They axed that and the Elantra GT. Very sad.
Those are some nasty shifts. I can smell it through my screen
The Kia smokes BAD on every take off Lol
Can I just say how sick the intro is with all the specs?
Thank you
Thank you for the video. What tires were you running on the Kia cause I know they have a tire option to go from the all seasons to pilot sport summer tires.
Should have gone three way with a 21 (last gen) Civic Sport. Granted, it would probably leave the other two in the lurch.
Yeah that would have been interesting
What makes you so confident?
If all 3 were MT’s, its a drivers race, buddy.
If we’re talking automatics, well…idk much about the Forte5 as in the US we dont get those, however, there’s a channel PDrive tv
“2019 kia cerato GT(turbo) that has it at
6.95 to 100 km/h (approx 6.75 sec in mph)
And 1/4 mile at 15 @ 97.7 mph……….dct.
And the Forte GT (sedan) is doing 6.4 sec 0-60, and 14.65@ 97 mph….dct.
I dont think Civic Sport would be anywhere near, all things being equal (same rxn time, good take off/little spinning for all)…
Edit: that being said , the 6at mazda would fall behind. There’s a video, btw, by throttle house with a sedan civic 1.5t vs mazda 3 2.5.
I have an Elantra GT Sport with the 1.6T but the 7spd DCT and I get 0-60 times between 6s - 6.3s everytime. It out performs the 1.5T Sport & Si which is also recorded by a bunch of different journalists. This is the same powerplant that's in this Forte5, although that was manual and there's a pretty significant difference in 0-60 between the DCT & manual. The DCT is about half a second quicker.
@@M4B21S88 yes, the 1.6T is quicker than the 1.5T in the Civic Sport & Si, esp with the DCT. Not sure where op is getting his info but I'm assuming it was just his opinion.
@@_dmfd the Elantra GT has not once gotten under a 6.3 sec 0-60. Yes the GT versions and N Line versions are faster than the CVT civic, for $4,000 more lol. But I’d take the .5 second slower Civic for more reliability, better looks, more fun. Also rather have the resale value and tuning ability of the civic. But base, yeah maybe
Love my 2017 Kia forte5 sx. Been modding it and its a little sleeper now. No one suspects a kia ;)
impressive how hard the Kia pulls in 3rd gear
I thought the same. Watching that third run, without the Kia’s Sport Mode on (I have a 2021 Forte. The Sport Mode actually DOES make a HUGE difference on acceleration and handling/suspension), I worried for its chances.
Then, I watched it shift into 3rd & just BLAZE by the Mazda.
What do ya expect..? Mazda is owned & made by Ford. They only pay attention to the Mustangs & F-X50 models. Lol!
This is an example of "reading the manual", cars don't give 100% power at 6k rpm, they do it on a specifically rpm, above that u don't need to push gas harder but to change gear...
Can you race a Kia Forte GT vs a manual Genesis G70 2.0T?
Really?
@@SamCarLegion really Sam, hear me out. The Kia Forte GT is actually about 0.1 seconds quicker 1/4-mile and a slightly faster trap speed than a manual G70 2.0T. It will be a shocker.
The gt dct is fast
@@bondedstars please explain how that's an unreasonable request? They're evenly matched and represent some of the best values in their respective segments.
@@TheBreakfastLover One car is twice as expensive as the other car. They're not even in the same segment and no one would cross shop them.
Great race Sam! What happened to dragy?
The only thing wrong with the transmission is the loose nut behind the wheel 🔩🔩
Debating between 2022 Accord 2.0t or 2022 Kia Stinger GT. Which one will be better daily driver?
Apples and pumpkins
Stinger sucks gas.Depends on budget.
@@davevolz6138 Budget is not the issue, Reliability and longer term owning is the issue.
@@precisionmotors Then split the diff with a Lexus.
@@davevolz6138 at stinger money, Id go Lexus route. Very reliable NA power.
Nice one Sam !! Kia is Rocking the Sporty Cars !! Love My Stinger GT !!
The base prices are all messed up here. The forte5 gt starts at 22,790 and the Mazda 3 hatch base price starts at 22,650. However the Mazda 3 turbo hatch begins pricing at 31,500 and would be in a whole different league.
USA doesn’t have Forte5 GT
Hey Sam! Yo have to re do this video with the new Mazda 3 GT Turbo vs the Kia Forte GT Limited (Canadian Name) that would be interesting 🤔
Put GV70 sport vs Porsche Macan S or SQ5
Would love to see that. Thinking the Macan would take the other 2.
I'd love to see the q50s vs the G70 and m340i vs scat pack. Those would be some good races!! Please
Already done
I see the q50 vs g70, what about scat pack vs m340i?
Sam CarLegion Mazda 3 turbo vs Honda Accord 2.0T
Love my Forte5 GT
You drag racing against a 12 year old?
Whens the Elantra n-line vs forte gt vs civic si video coming? Lol for the people who can't afford the best top models lol!!
Already did
@@SamCarLegion oh really ? I havent found it in your videos
I love my Cerato/Forte 5 GT!
Those kia,s are quick!
Can I ask why u guys didn't race on the sticky starting line?
A Ford Explorer xlt sport vs 🆚 Toyota highlander would be an awesome race
I’d still rather have that Mazda! It looks really good on the outside and the inside! We all know it’s slow as can be tho😂
Lol but also reliable as can be! The KIA focused on a fun drive, but not a very reliable one with a 1.6 liter exhausted by a turbo.
@@christopherajayi6299 haha not only that I love the way the Mazda’s look over the Kias. I think so far the only good looking non broke looking Kia is the stinger. Like the forte 5 GT looks so ugly
Korea power 💪
Mazda 3 Turbo Awd 310lp??? ++
Is the 1.6 Gdi?
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The guy in the forte GT should have been much better he was in Tokyo drift.
The forte rear looks audi ish
Peter is the reason it looks like an A3
I never understood why would he make the Porsche headlights for the front end every time I look in traffic it looks the a Porsche in front and Audi A3 rear
Man I wish the 5gt was for sale in the US! That would be way more useful than the sedan.
Thanks for bringing back the normal mode!
You like normal mode?
@@SamCarLegion yes! Because you get to see which auto makers does Mr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde via software/hardware calibration best.
Interesting:)
Who tf is driving the kia? And why are they redlining and dumping the clutch to launch?
how would a 2021 corolla hatchback compare to the forte5?
I love the Mazda 3 manual transmission
yikes the dct transmission on the auto is super quick on the GT you really need to bring the auto. This makes the car look so slow :( my poor baby.
Perhaps people should let go of the elitism around manual transmissions and just use the DCT options
Next go round, I’ll fly up and drive the manuals for you guys. Cause this was painful to watch. I’m so serious too. I work for the airlines and will give my free time to you! Just respond if you’re interested.
was the mazda ran on premium fuel?
Please show some love for your Canadian audience and include CAD?
Yeah another Canadian show gearing for the Americans.
He did mention it verbally at the end there around 7:50
I think this one will be extremely close. I really have no idea who the winner will be. Can't wait.
Ouch. Feel bad for the cars.
Not a fan of the Mazda3 manuals, I would have to chose the turbo auto sedan. Too bad it doesn’t compare to the MX5 manual.
Please Mercedes Mercedes AMG GT and Porsche and BMW and Audi roll race
We have just a 2021 Forte base….it’s like 3rd level up or whatever (there’s only EIGHT models. Lol?)…
I gotta tell ya, the Sport Mode even in an automatic….thing actually has some good pep, to it. I was a bit surprised.
So, having over 200-hp, in utilizing a Turbo…? I could do a LOT, with that.
Buuuut….ya gotta get better at that shifting, Homie. Lol!
I’m 41, been street racing since I was 16. I agree with what someone else said, the shifting looked PAINFUL. Haha!
Too funny cant shift. Takes one full second to shift. Im sure they do that on purpose so no one can really tell if its car or driver
Hey Sam could we maybe see a race with A Toyota Avalon or Camry TRD? Cuz that would be wicked
Can’t find those
@@SamCarLegion 🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁
I think the ki driver never drives a manual car...
I kinda feel like the Mazda wasn't driven as hard as it could be.
I "kinda feel" like facts / reality don't care about your feelings, snowflake
If you think the mazda wasnt driven well, the Forte was driven worse.
Lesson here: turbo cars are not to be driven like NA cars.
The forte makes peak torque at 1500 rpms, so no need to launch the shit out of it, just give it a little rev..
Neither are WRXs that can handle aggressive launches at take off (fwd).
Forte being turbo, you dont redline it, ideal shifts happen between 5900-6100 rpms, redlining it means it was put outside its powerband briefly with every shift.
This was horrible for both, but mainly for the turbo car.
@@Mgoblagulkablong I agree with you 100% thanks for taking your time to explain this I really appreciate it.
@@M4B21S88 Agreed.
@@M4B21S88 A turbo engine makes its max torque only if the turbo is at full boost, if you just give it a litttle rev the turbo won't be anywhere near full boost at 1500 rpm and it will make much less than the max figure.
forte gt dct is alway the way to go. manual is not really quick. manual does a 6.7sec to 60 and dct is 6.3; dct would've been quicker if it wasn't for the transmission delay from a dig. probably want to protect transmission life or else it would have been under 6 secs.
Take that on with the turbo mazda 3 2021
Right lol
Mazda went upmarket so the decision to make at the present price points in 2023 is: Luxurious materials, reliability, and refinement of the Mazda 3 or the fun and greater rear seat and cargo space of the Forte GT. Only one will prevail and it's Kia lol Kia is selling way more cars.
I'm also an American desperately wanting the Forte5 but I ordered a 2023 GT Manual sedan. I think it's wild that somehow the USA isn't a viable market for a near-wagon. Too many bullshit crossovers on the road I guess.
These Mazda just don’t have enough Kick I wonder what a auto Mazda3 N/A could do
Both of these car are very good looking
Don't do this "coming soon", as it spams feed to much. Where is Chevy SS ? But your announcement was there....
Everything comes at the right time
Spinnin ain’t winnin! That’s why my cars are AWD now
They are spinning the tires because they don’t know how to drive manual very well.
Hhhhhhhhh l love kia
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Can't fly but looks nice. Like very nice. I chose the Mazda3.
Honda crv vs Toyota ra4
At least the Mazda 3 has a really nice interior though. 🤷♂️
I'm starting to feel like Mazda spends more money on interior than anything else
@@reconsilver5961 you don’t have to buy the gt 🤷♂️… base model performs just as well as the other trims
@@AngeloTinebra I'm more of a Mazda fan I own a 2012 Mazda 3 but I have a feeling my 2012 is going to be more fun than the 2021
At least the KIA has 100k warranty when that nasty turbo goes bad like it always does 🤷🏽♂️ Mazda is years ahead of KIA in tech
@@reconsilver5961 no, people just forget Mazda is also about reliability which is why you seem them in many top reviews. While this race shows a faster KIA, it also doesn't show the longevity and reliability and I guarantee you won't want that KIA past 100k miles while the Mazda will easily pass 200k
why drag when you know
I can't believe that Kia Forte is fast
Please if is possible make a DRAGY test with all tests:) that's giving us numbers:)
Unfortunately, at the moment it’s pretty hard to use dragy, it’s an aiport area
This one don't count 🤣
mannnnn do i gotta show yall how to drive a manual forte
Two worst manual drivers I've ever seen. Regardless, Forte GT is doing a good job.
KIA is the best
This is a weird race how can the 2.0 Elantra with 150 hp beat the Mazda 3 2.0 2021 so that means the Elantra 2.0 can keep up with the 1.6 liter engine
This is the 1.6t hyundai/kia vs 2.5l NA mazda. Elantra 2.0 don't stand a chance vs the 1.6t
Yeah vs the turbocharged 1.6t, no chance. Not even close. The Elantra would be destroyed, but to be expected.
@@Anakin0217 Not against the Mazda. It's not that fast. How was it able to pass the Mazda 3 hatchback? I rented one the other day, and we were both going 131 mph, and the Elantra was one car length ahead of the Mazda 3 top end with the 2.5 engine but the NA 2.5 Mazda can keep up with the 1.6 turbocharged Kia that means the elantra can keep up with the 1.6 cuz the 2.0 Elantra can pass the Mazda 3 which has 186 NA hp vs. 150 hp NA
@@Yondaily dude. What? lol I think youre confusing the Mazda 3 with 150 hp and Mazda 3 with 186 hp(2.5).
The 2.0 IVT Elantras/Fortes are nowhere near the 1.6t.
The 1.6t in the Forte GT is a mid 6 sec car, the 2.0 IVTs are close to the Corolla's 8 sec range, 16 ish sec 1/4 mile trapping 85 mph? vs 96-97 on the 1.6t...
youre confused.
@@M4B21S88 actually your confused the elantra 2.0 has the same time as the civic non turbo the corolla is pretty much the same
MAZDA！
The race wasn’t even fair from the jump lol
Q50 red sport vs 340 i
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Wtf is that rotten egg smell? Oh nvm it's just those clutches
Mazda anyday
Kia Forte driver level is too low.
Cringe. Both of you need to just leave the manuals alone
it took a better driver to the kia forte
Make a turbo vs turbo comparison and Mazda would destroy the Kia.
Mazda Turbo isn’t available in Manual
who ever is driving the kia sucks at shifting