2022 Hyundai Kona N vs Mazda3 Turbo GT vs Honda Accord 2.0, close enough. Drag and Roll Race.
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- 2022 Hyundai Kona N vs Mazda3 Turbo GT vs Honda Accord 2.0, close enough. Drag and Roll Race.
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Wrong-NOT all three use a 2.0 motor obviously…need to do some editing before posting a video.
Good catch. I left that on purpose :)
@@SamCarLegion question:
What's the use of torque and why didn't it help the Mazda "pull" despite the Honda down on torque?
Honda gearing is superior to Mazd.
@@avilesjuan180 thanks, nice response.
@@oshogweikekhai5499 It initially did pull but its down on hp and also its transmission is slow
Kona N is not so aerodynamically good but still you see Kona nailed it's competitors.. Impressive.. good job Hyundai..
Yea just helps show how strong the Elantra N is in a better body.
@@ChristianRunsNY "better" is very subjective.
On the contrary. The kona N has good aerodynamics.At first glance, the Hyundai Kona and Mercedes-Benz C-Class coupe share little in common. One is a somewhat funky little crossover priced in the $20,000s, while the other is a precision-crafted German machine that starts at nearly $50,000.
And yet, they're equally aerodynamic.
Both have a coefficient of drag, or Cd, of 0.32. That simply means these vehicles do an admirable job of managing wind resistance when traveling on the highway. As a result, the engine doesn't need to work as hard to maintain speed and, therefore, uses less fuel.
aero doesn't have a factor at these speeds you goofies. clueless people
@@ChristianRunsNY kona/Elantra N are about the same..
I think it’s safe to say, Hyundai are not slow cars anymore.
Loving my Genesis 5.0 and I am very impressed with the Hyundai Kona N.
Lmao very slow
@@Sadslantyface what do you drive clown?
@@Sadslantyface not real world slow
@@Sadslantyface but fast for the price 🤷♂️
@@DriverJ-N nah still get spanked by a Honda Fit
I own the Kona N. It’s not a beast for 0-60. It wasn’t built for that. Around corners, it’s crazy fast with the limited slip differential. This car shines on the back mountain roads. Don’t sleep on the Kona. It’s definitely a sleeper.
I agree, like the Kona N, the Elantra N like the corners.
Mazda3 too, Mazda says they designed the 3 to be best performing on windy roads
Its 0-60 is respectable for its size
Once you get rid of the wheelhop you can get into the high 4s 0-60 on the KN.
It is a very capabale car from 0-60 my sister has one and I managed a 4.9 second 0-60
These N's don't wanna lose 😏
Even if costs a blown engine. 😂
@@ROBMACDUI Loser
@@ROBMACDUI what blown engine? This is not 2013 clown
Well I’d hope not considering that’s like… an N. And it raced a 4cyl accord :P
Lmao fr these Hyundais are fast but i rather have a car that i can enjoy like the accord than a car that might blow up like almost every Hyundai
The Kona N driver was really feeling fly though 😄
Flew like a Mustang GT.
it's an accord and a dog mzada 3..
@@roboticvenom1935 and a kona which to anyone who isnt into cars is the slowest of them all lmao
I actually managed to test drive a Kona N this weekend, that is a FUN car. Very much a hatchback, not an SUV.
I test drove one recently as well. I currently drive a 2019 GTI. Kona's LSD really pulls you around corners, very fun. However it still feels very much like a small crossover compared to a true hot hatch, only due to the seat and seat position. Even with the seats all the way down, I felt like I was sitting high, and the seats are very flat compared to the seats of a GTI or Veloster N (I test drove one of those too) and you tend to slide around when cornering hard where the GTI and VN seats hold you very well and you feel like you're sitting low in a sports car. I'm 6'3" so I really like feeling low in a car. But then again it's not trying to be a hatchback, that's what the VN is for, before they discontinued it. The Kona N is a great small crossover, but not quite a hatchback.
Yes it’s pretty much a razed hot hatch hahaha definitely not an suv
I hear they handle incredible
It’s a crossover
@@HueyHuber no, it's definitely a hatchback
Wtf is going on over at Hyundai?? Those N models are very impressive. Massive kudos. As usual, the Accord is a great performer as well
Go test drive one. They are stupid good.
The guy who designed BMW M series....went to Hyundai and designed the N series.
@@jagerking7020 so I’ve been seeing
@@TheBiz9999 yep, a smart choice on their end
BMW happened
That old 6 speed auto is what's hurting the Mazda MASSIVELY. On a side note Hyundai is killing the game, im happy with my lil elantra sport 1.6 turbo manual.
Yeah it would have been great if they offered a manual transmission in that package or dsg or z-f transmission
That would make very little difference. Mazda has tons of torque so the gearing doesn't matter too much, just not a ton of HP. Additionally, the car was designed as a daily driver, so it doesn't have all the lurchiness/gear-hunting that a DCT does in traffic
@@cordellwanless5914 bro what are you even talking about, a DCT or even a 10 speed trans is night and day difference from that old 6 speed auto smh
@@Jcastro9444 a difference on many cars yes but I don't think it would make a huge difference on the Mazda 3. It makes diesel torque down low and then the power just drops and drops, even a Porsche DCT might only take like .2-.3 off the quarter mile
I have an i30 N Line Premium (Australia); think you guys call it the Elantra GT N Line in the US; the mazda 2.5 turbo only makes about 20 HP more than our little 1.6 turbo engines.
I’m a Mazda3 Turbo owner. The torque is stupid but falls on its face by 4k rpm. Tunes are coming out now to flatten the torque curve. Excited to see what she will do.
That Hyundai is impressive.
Because the computer close the throttle we use to have the same problem with the mazdaspeeds
Hyundai’s been really killing it these days. I daily a 2018 Elantra Sport DCT and it’s treated me so well! The Kona N is pretty cool but I cant wait to see the Ioniq 5N.
Especially on blown up engines and DCT transmissions. Also there horrendous 'warranty' coverage that won't pay for blown engines and transmissions!
@@jamessephar945840k miles Kona N no issues at all so far hard driving everyday even doing Lyft with it I’ll let u know when I get to 100k when the warranty is over
@@DriverJ-Nhow is it now?
@@GIME5528 57k still running really well
@@GIME5528I have a manual 6spd Veloster N over 120k miles no issues at all except for the hpfp that died at 50k and I definitely don’t baby it I do a full throttle pull everytime I drive it lol.
Thank god a Kona N video
I was suprise to see the mazda 3 keep up with the accord so well. I seen the accord perform and i thought it would have kill the mazda. The mazda 3 all wheel drive makes it heavy and it needs more gears to keep up with mordern high performance cars that use 8 speed or dct
You're not wrong, but don't forget Sam was driving the Accord 🙃
Lol! Just Remember it took years for the other manufacturers to bring up competition with current gen Accord which was released in 2018 and now its 2022 which slowly it started showing the age...2018, 19, 20, 21 non could even get closer to the Accord
Doesn’t the Mazda use a 6AT?
@@lawrenceredden9049 yes it does. But at that type of performance level for todays standard. 6 speed AT is outdated. 8 speed AT or dct is needed
Just 15lbs heavier than accord tho
Alright Sam, I think it's time for an N showdown! EN, VN, and KN..you make the most N racing content on youtube, I love it haha🤙
Mazda has amazing Torque but lacks in the hp. Still would take it over the other two.
I bought a m3ht in may and loved it. Unfortunately it was totaled last week via t bone (not my fault), but I’ve fallen for the Kona n and will probably be picking one up soon.
Great matchup Sam! I was surprised by that Mazda, even though it lost it kept right up with the Accord. As a former Accord 2.0T owner and current Elantra N owner I figured the Kona N would be side by side with the other two until about mid track and then it would pull away. The N pulls hard all the way to redline. The Accord always felt so strong down low, but up top in the RPM range it felt like it fell short on power. Really interesting comparison between these three cars.
yeah mazda has a decade old 6 speed slushbox and a old low revving 2.5 turbo
If you were looking to get mods you should’ve stayed with the accord
@@ruthlessrampag319 I’m actually not looking to mod much with the Elantra N. It’s already a blast stock. Maybe a tune and intake, that’s about all it needs. The Accord I would’ve gone down that rabbit hole of modding.
These new N motors have a new design to the turbo making the power curve way better at high RPM. Also they are very under rated. The ECU has octane learning it limits boost to 15ps on 87 but hits 19 and 20psi on 93 octane. They are actually closer to 310hp or so at crank on 93 octane. Multiple Dyno runs have seen the Kona N and Elantra N put down like 280hp at wheels bone stock.
I'm referring to DCT ones. The tuning on the 6 speed EN is a little different.
Great matchup video ... Thank you Sam for making it happen...
the hyundai N models they are just beast
I LOVE MY VELOSTER 🔥🔥🔥💨💨👌🏾‼️
Wow. The Kona N is fast. I think it would even beat a K5 Gt or Sonata N line.
I would like to see a drag with all Hyundai N & N Line models lined up
Elantra N, FTW 🙌
Kona on semi slick and with chip tuning 100%, not fair race
@@GoogleAccount-pt4zu Elantra N would win. The turbos on the Kona N and Elantra N is bigger than the Veloster’s. And the Elantra N has better aerodynamics than the Kona. Though the Veloster is probably the most fun FWD car you can buy currently.
@@Frank-eh3jc unless you live in a market that sells the i30 N or i20 N ;)
Kona N's power figures are way under quoted from the factory. Most Dyno runs are saying around 280hp to the wheels so around 310-330bhp at the crank
why would they do that..? just wondering
@@melonaaah most non-american manufacturers sandbag their numbers to show performance in non-optomal conditions.
@@melonaaah I think insurance reasons
You are correct, race chip put a stock Kona N on the Dyno and put down 308bhp from the engine:)
i have the mazda, have to say in its stock incarnation this is 100% accurate. The 3 turbo just hits a wall in the top of the rev-range. No the reason for this is surprising. its the Mazda intake, its inexcusably bad, i don't know why they did that, seriously its BAD, its like mazda deliberately did it to make the car behave in a specific way. After putting on the BMS stage 2 intake for $500 it completely changes the throttle response and power in the top of the rev range. Then put the JB4 on and its night night Kona N. not to mention the quality of the interior in those Hyundai's isn't even in the same league as the mazda.
Facts 10000x everything you just said, the jb4 gets it to 60 under 4.6 seconds I’ve seen
You can add a JB4 or a tune to the Kona N as well... That being said, you'd need to spend a substantial amount of money to make the CX-30 track as well as the Kona N does.
Jeez...imagine a tune on the Kona..thing would be nuts..that thing took off like it was on nitrous once it hit second into 3rd
They got a stage 3 now, 28psi of boost instead of 19
We are suspicious that this one already had a tune. No way a stock version beats the mighty Accord 2.0t by that much without a massive tune. The way it just launched and took off like it did makes us suspicious it would have held its own against the new Corvette. If we are talking stock, the Accord 2.0t is not only the fastest car in the world today, it is the fastest and best car that has ever been built and ever will be built. Nothing stock even comes close. If a choice came between getting an Accord 2.0t and a Bentley, we are taking the Accord 2.0t every time. We like a noisy cabin with rattles and feeling every bump, it makes us feel like we are really driving. Who needs whisper quiet and ride compliance over bumps. Way overrated.
@@XWXW-lk4jf God told me that Kona in this video is stock, no tune of any kind.
@@XWXW-lk4jf copium, they show the engine bay. For a stage 1 tune for the kona (310 whp) one of the requirements is a cold air intake, and hks spark plugs. Stock air system in it. its probably the dct giving it the gap, since the hondas 0-60 is 2 seconds slower
@@XWXW-lk4jfI mean my stock Kona N gaps every stock accord I’ve ever encountered 🤷♂️
Love the Mazda, but the 6speed auto holds it back,to fully unlock the potential of that turbo it needs a 8, 9 or 10 speed
This car has loads of torque and no top end, more gears/ shorter gearing/ wouldn’t make it that much faster. Certainly wouldn’t change the outcome we see here.
Hes right. Shorter gears wont help. What a new tranny would do though is simply help it shift quicker which will only help it so much. What I would prefer is a fwd with a manual. It would beat the honda from a roll and not get gapped as bad by the kona
its not the trans. its the ECU, its cuts power at higher rpm. Cant wait for Real Tunes to come out for the car.
A dct would change and unlock the potential of the mazda3
it is not about the gear ratio, the 6speed can physically handle 250hp max. They should give a proper 6speed so the mazda can increase the hp freely
We want to se VN vs EN vs KN !!! :)
EN wins than KN than the VN
Exactly what I want to see, all DCT models.
Kona N vs Elantra N it will be a great race 👏🏻
EN Wins
Happened already the EN beat it but I have a feeling the EN had the octane tuning done and the Kona N forgot or didn’t know about that feature
@@DriverJ-N Octane tuning ?
@@vroomgc yea after buying 93 there is a process u have to do to unlock an extra 4 psi which u have to do every time after buying gas which sucks takes 10mins to do…. if u don’t u are stuck at 15psi and the difference is huge
I bet the KN in that video was at 15 psi while the EN was at 19 psi
I Love those damn Kona N Style, they look amazing and the way that thing pulls it's even more Amazing 💪💪🔥🔥 Wish I could afford getting one right now.
I love my 2022 mazda 3 turbo, I have a brand new exhaust system and an awesome cold air intake on it. The pick up is so nasty
I had the Mazda3 turbo and changed it to the Kona n just because the mazda3 just had one good push and that’s it. And it felt heavy which makes sense since it’s awd. I’m definitely happier with my Kona n now.
Mannnnn of man! I LOVE the Kona N! I currently have a 2022 Veloster N in Racing red! Wouldn't change it! So happy with it!
Wow! That Kona n is fast. Honda should’ve never detuned their engine.
Then the type R wouldn't be as special and the Accord wouldn't be as affordable lol
The Type R will always be special. You just don't drag that as it's never made to drag.
you can buy a ktuner and an OTS tune from pherable all for about 600 bucks, which will bring the accord up to 300whp and somewhere in 300tq on a completely stock 2.0
but of course you void your warranty lol
@@latens9479 I already have the phearable stage 3 along with the prl intercooler and charge pipes. I’m pretty sure the accord can be 300hp stock and still be reliable if Honda didn’t detuned it. Maybe then it can match up with the new Hyundai/kias stock for stock. But will see what the next gen will be.
@@raymondtang1262 Agreed! But on the internet most people are more interested on who can win drag races 😂
Love that Accord, can’t wait until the next generation comes out.
I really hope it's a completely new redesign
I just hope Honda doesn't screw it up. It's just about perfect in it's respective class, even 5 years later.
@@wbwayne8887 have you seen the new renders for the new accord? 😔 looks like a damn ford
@@edwardnguyen1980
I know, I'm very worried. Going to have a Ford Exterior and a new gen Civic/HRV/CRV interior. I really hope Honda changes up the interior a little more for the Accord.
Certainly the Accord is a car that grandpas love.
N Nation REPRESENT
Easy there…. The engine might catch on 🔥
@@brenttitus2134 sorry to break it to you but N vehicles use completely different powertrains than standard hyundai/ kia cars😢
@@xfks That does not matter and only a matter of time. They are still Hyundai/KIA Korean fire burners in the end.
@@brenttitus2134 Doubtful, we have yet to see any N vehicle's engines catch fire. Even in such a scenario Hyundai/Kia has the best warranty in the business so im sure it'll be just fine :) I think you're just upset because Honda and other brands has been lacking lately...
@@brenttitus2134 that’s cool the veloster N that’s been out for a few years hasn’t really had any issues 🤷♂️
Why do i like the design of Kona N so much
Yea I love it very good design
Man, I just traded in my 2020 Civic Si for a Mazda 3 AWD Turbo and I'm regretting not test driving Hyundai. Not to say I'm unhappy with the car, I think it's awesome in terms of ride quality and interior fit and finish. But it's more like entry level luxury instead of a hot hatch.
Kona in another level 💯
mr nobody, what level is that?
YESSSS I've been waiting for some Mazda 3 Turbo content!! I just the M3T but the Sedan version and absolutely love it. Keep up the great content. Sad it didn't win but glad to see it here
@Aces Yeah it really shocks me that I don't see more on the road! The price point is great, and it's so luxurious (interior wise) in comparison to any other car that cost the same.
The Kona is a monster. I like the Accord because it’s not a “performance car “ one bit but it still has pretty damn good performance lol.
3:30 lol that Kona was like "oh shit, were racing!?"
damn, hyundai came a long way for reals
On design yes but not quite at the level of toyota, honda and mazda yet
@@alvinsimba734 race shown in this video suggests otherwise
@@kenyaswallow5782 also remember, Many car buyers do not buy vehicles for racing but rather for their reliability especially for people with families as well and also people go with overall perception of the brand. Kia and Hyundai as beautiful as they are, they haven't really fixed the engine fire issue in their engines. As we speak the hot sellers 2020-2022 Kia Telluride and Hyundai Pallisade are under a serious recall as we speak that the tow hitch mechanism the way it was built can easily catch on fire and with the current parts shortages this is not a good sign. Despite all that, they still haven't fixed other recalls from those same brands so with all that thats why most car buyers those who know won't buy their cars. For KIA and Hyundai to use 10 year 100k warranty as a selling point should tell you all you need to know because by design that engine is going to have to be fixed or replaced, but even with the warranty it's a pain dealing with their customer service when problems arise. For honda and others they don't need to advertise 10 year warranty as a selling point because they don't need to. From my experience, Hyundai and KIA are best in the world when it comes to offering beautiful interior and awesome tech that can be found on most luxury cars at a lower price point for a reason and for the mechanical aspect of their vehicles is where they took shortcuts and use very cheap materials that won't last long and this is where they easily lose to competitors.
@@alvinsimba734 I'd only say Toyota is the tried and true reliable brand among the 3 u mentioned. Honda is a hit or miss and I've had a lot of issues with the Honda cars our family owned.
@@alvinsimba734 heard about bZ4X?
potential wheel falling off?
Toyota WAS very reliable. Not anymore....
Hyundai N series killing it once again. Crazy how it is destroying all of its competitors for less
It doesn't compete with the accord or Mazda 3 lol
@@UmarTheGreat10 lol so true
"Destroying for less" is kind of vague and inaccurate. The only car that's in the Accords class is the K5 GT/Sonata N-Line, both of which are more expensive than the Accord. The Accord is not a performance line or model similar to Hyundai's new N line of cars. The only thing Honda has like that right now is the Civic Type R.
@@SasquatchS550 it's not vague. Sam even put them together because of how similarly they are price and all a 4 cylinder performance oriented cars. The civic type r is most definitely not a competitor as the price is 15k or more. Even the accord sport would have lost badly there's no denying that. I'd say for being the cheapest it outperformed both of those cars and handles way better as well.
@@boostlife6370 accord isn't performance oriented. It just happens to be fairly quick. No one cross shops a Kona N with an accord. More likely they'll cross shop Honda's hot hatch , the CTR or maybe the si
LETS GO Ns
Go on. Say the full word 🤠
@@SilverScarletSpider 🤣 as a black guy there is a reason why I didn’t have a N themed license plate lmao
Everyone talking about Hyundai not at the level of Toyota, Honda and bla bla bla, y'all should relax every car breaks donw it just hurt your souls that a car y'all didn't respect some years ago is now killing your favs when it comes to design and tech plus the bonus of speed 😌😌😌, I see people driving around in old Hyundai models with 300k miles on the dash so relax and just blame yourselves for not knowing how to mantain a car
Kona N is another level.
DCT transmission won🤣😂... Hiunday is fast thank you for the DCT
Please do more races with the 2022 Jetta GLI
I’ve honestly never heard of the Kona N but it looks right up my alley. I’d like it to be awd and manual tho
I owned a Mazda CX-30 turbo and traded it in for a Kona N--the mazda is no slouch--here is 100 to 120 MPH runs in normal.I think Hyundai fudged the numbers because the kona N is much faster then my Mazda--obvious by this video,I think the kona N on premium fuel is rt at 300 HP--I just completed the break in period and took the kona N up to 157 MPH on a toll road--in normal mode and it did it in 7th with plenty left--and it had another gear.What surprised me was the power the Kona had after 140 MPH--most 4 cylinders--even performance ones tend to run out of steam after 140 and simply crawl to whatever top end they can do--the Kona N pulled rt through the 140 MPH range smotthly and quickly and only at 155 did the acceleration slow down to a trickle--but it was still accelearting at 157 when the toll road was coming to an end.
Kona N drivers seems he is enjoying the weather while driving
Cool video man, have a Kona N and I love it
any issues?
@@josephohara6588 nope,
2nd 😂 Awesome race Sam! Thank you!
Remember the kona has a 2.0T if you want to go, this is the one you want.
I love my Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8l, the first good Hyundai sports car! Hyundai and Kia are killing it today:)
WOW, that Kona N is way too fast, doesn't seem like its stock either.
Being that much faster than Accord I'm assuming it is a tuned car.
Its stock I'm sure. It is quite fast.
I own the car. It’s very fast. Especially on a track.
@@vroomgc Well....something doesn't add up. According to Motortrend Kona N goes 0-60 in 5.3 seconds , and 1/4 mile in 13.9 at 101.1 mph. The Accord Sport, on the other hand, went 5.5 sec 0-60 and 1/4 mile in 14.1 at 100.4 mph, according again to Motortrend. This puts it very close together, only 0.2 seconds apart in 1/4 mile...How come in this race these cars have buses of length in between?? I think it would be nice to know the speeds at the end on the line
@@vadim7131 It wasn't bus-lengths, it was only a couple car-lengths.
@@vadim7131 As is made clear in the video, that is not an Accord Sport.
Its kind of crazy how much faster that kona is considering how close the numbers are, I expected the accord and the mazda to be close but the kona was a surprise!
Hyundai just underrated these cars by a lot, and the DCT is really damn quick.
@@dylanb2142 Yea seems like that DCT is the big x-factor
Kona is on non stock wheels and semi slick tires, I wouldnt be surprised if it has stage 1, it can't win that much on same hp, just impossible.
@@maskerua6779 hp is up by 36hp with the same weight but a little lighter along with dct are all reasons why it won like it did
@@maskerua6779 Yup the little additional HP and quick shifting DCT are definitely advantageous over the other the other two cars. The wheels definitely help the launch but these N cars suffer from wheel hop so it’s almost needed.
I love the Kona N Performance 😍💪🏻 #Hyundai #Kona #N #Performance
Each one on its own category it’s nice
Kick ass Kona!!
The Mazda 3’s transmission is it’s downfall an 8 speed transmission would do it justice. Hyundai has arrived people those are really good cars now!
🤣 they still have a recall for cars catching on fire, plus if u get a hyundai with your key and no key flob, you're screwed lol, I'll steal that thing in less than a min lol same goes for kia
@@cormaro13 lol you steal my Hyundai you going to jail with a scholarship….good luck though!
@@drepar3359 so I'm guessing u haven't heard about that recall too ? Lmao, kia and hyundai are the most stolen cars right now, cause if it still comes with a ignition for the key, all I have to do is break the sterling wheel column and shove a flat head into the ignition and bam your done, if you look up kia boys, they show u how to steal the car in under a min lmao hyundai is releasing a security system for it at additional charging while kia said they're not doing anything about it
@@cormaro13 actually the easiest cars to steal now are all Chrysler products with hellcat motors. Yea I heard of the issues with Kia vehicles being stolen. Like I said Hyundai has arrived. When Hyundai first came to America you could leave those cars open with the engine running and nothing would happen. Nobody wanted them lol. Now these fools wanna risk going to jail to steal them. They should be honored. Like I said though if anyone wants to steal my Hyundai they going to jail !
@@drepar3359 agreed on the Chrysler lmao, but you have to get caught to go to jail 😉🤣, a min to steal the car and a 15 min ride to the chop shop lol and here in houston those cops arent getting to a stolen car indicent til hr or two has passed lol, but yes hyundai and kia have come a long way, but keep in mind kia and hyundai are the same brand essentially, the parent company for kia is hyundai lol
When that Kona N hit 3/4 gear it was like a rocket! 😮
Already know the Kona N will take it.
obviously.. it's a mazda with a decade old drivetrain and a 2018 accord
Great video Sam. Would like to see Veloster N vs. Kona Vs Elantra N. I still want the Veloster, but the Kona looks pretty good.
The Mazda would really benefit from a more modern 8 speed or 10 speed auto, with a DCT.
Great job keep up the good work we love your videos
The Kona N is damm impressive the Accord needs a update and more hp and Honda should do something about it same case with the Mazda 3 turbo that thing revs so low like Diesel engine and upshifts and only has low to mid range power the top end is weak they need to make it rev higher and make sure the turbo doesn't runs out of puff up top and atleast update the transmission to a 8 or 9 speed that I'll make it a fun little hatchback
Honda never really marketed this to be a fast car. It's an economical and reliable everyday driver, that's decently quick for what it is. Definitely impressed with the Kona N, I think Honda should take a page out of Hyundai's playbook and make an Accord Type R to compete with the Elantra N
As cool as it would be what you said runs completely opposite to what they were aiming to do with the Mazda 3
Mazda next update on the Mazda 3 in 2024 is putting in 8 speed auto but to bad its not going to be a DCT
That AWD is giving the Mazda an edge off the line but after that it falls short. Now just imagine if they put AWD in the Kona N…. It would launch so much harder from a stop
you know whats crazy next year the first awd N car is coming its going to have 575hp its electric though but its a N so its going to be fun im actually excited
I feel like the Mazda 3 turbo is slower than the old Mazdaspeed 3 even with the awd. I could be wrong but best times I’ve seen the Mazdaspeed is quicker
Yeah but the Speed was really crazy. You had to watch it on corners due to the torque steer. It was fun but not really good for long trips or traffic. Driving at 80 miles on a speedway was loud.
@@adam145 yeah I bet. Definitely better looking than the new 3 turbo though in my opinion
A great video. You make the best drag race videos. It's always a pleasure to see your videos 👍
The Kona N against a WRX STi would be interesting. I drive a WRX STi and a Kona N myself, so it would be very interesting to see that.
Which do you like driving more?
@@apexcobra.official I love driving both. They are two very different vehicles and you cannot compare the two. The Kona N cannot replace the STi and the STi cannot replace the Kona N.
I've raced 3 now in my Kona N and I've beaten each. Two from a roll and one from a dig ONLY because of the DCT in the Kona I suspect. It's shifts are so smooth with the quickness
This is a battle of the transmissions. Updated old school, old school design, and new school DCT.
If only the Mazda had a DCT or at least 2-4 more gears.
I really hope Honda doesn't screw up the next gen Accord. The current gen looks and performs so good.
Need to make a Kona N vs Elantra N vs Veloster N happen. All DCT, since the KN isn't available with the manual. Thanks Sam.
WB Wayne -True. 👍🏼😉
true i feel like the only reason this hasn't happed yet is how hard it is to get a hold of N cars in general they aren't the easiest cars to find even more so the veloster N since you cant get them anymore
Kind of disappointing, the Mazda gets off to such a great start with the high torque and awd but the gearbox holds it back from reaching it's true potential, can't wait for the next gen Mazdas to see when they finally join the program at put an 8 or 9 speed in their cars
@@qnzman578
If they aren't full fledged EVs or hybrids with CVTs. 🤷♂️
the 6 speed isn't what's holding the Mazda back, the intake design for the turbo it horrendous, it seriously robs like 30hp at specific points in the rev range (non scientific testing with my phones acetometers and a known section of road), with the BMS intake the car pulls much better in the top 3 of the rev range. a slightly faster shift would be nice however... but all that being said i would still take the reliability of the slush box over a Hyundai DCT, who knows what the long term reliability is gonna be like on that thing...
Love this race well done all drivers surprised by the outcome just a bit but good race 🏁 appreciate the Channel and content and you stay safe Always 👍
FANTASTIC VIDEO!! So glad you were NOT driving the Kona N, otherwise the Honda and Mazda would had made it first!!
I got to drive one of those 2.0 accords with a factory tune. Completely different animal aefore & after!
almost as impressive as the elantra N with a tune
im getting so sick of the "hyundai is killing it these days" "hyundayi stepping their game up" like how long are we going to say that they have been making sporty decent cars for years now its not new
As a Kona N owner, I would have driven it into the ocean had it not won these races. But the Accord is a really nice car, especially if you want people to fit in the back seat.
That’s why I sold my Accord Sport 2.0T and bought an Elantra N. So much of a better car, and I’m a Honda guy.
Lmfao 🤣
I have a Mazda 3 Turbo, I always tell people it can beat most cars from 0-40 lol. They really built it to be powerful in regular driving.
Lol @ the driver bouncing around in the Kona. I want the N so bad but idk if I can deal with that ride quality. Love this video!! Hyundai is killing the game!
If you put it in comfort, it didn't bounce around as much
While the Kona N is dusting everyone, the driver is bouncing in the cabin. Accord driver looks pretty chill. Too bad we couldn't see the driver in the Mazda.
I noticed that too
I was like why is he shaking all over the cabin
@@guyblac48 Because he was in N mode which is very stiff. You can create your own custom N mode and put the suspension in regular mode, it makes a big difference and u still get the same power output.
Also been noted in previous videos the left side of this track is way bumpier.
Wasn’t fair Becuase it was the touring first off . I wish I could bring my modified accord 2.0t to show it is really powerful and underrated
We got a K5 GT for ya!
Whats the difference between touring and sport
As a Korean, I am so proud of Kona N. But I'm an Accord 2.0T Sports owner.
Very surprised to see the Mazda 3 keep pace with the accord on the roll
Nice race again next race (fusion,accord,altima,Subaru,sonata,320i) with base engines
I love the Accord in that Sonic Gray Pearl. Very striking.
I’m sure the Kona would still win but I wonder how much of a difference stock wheels and tires are compared to aftermarket wheels and tires since the Kona didn’t have stock wheel and tire.
The Mazda Hatch doesn't need AWD it's holding it back more weight and more power loss, if they get just FWD and a new trans, it will beat the accord, they are pretty close.
The DCT in the Hyundai N cars though.
I love that Hyundai had the balls to develop a wet DCT in house. Toyota and Honda need to man up and do the same or get left in Hyundais dust.
@@CTF33 As a Veloster N owner, I might be biased, but imo I feel there has been a shift in things. Hyundai is creating bold, fun, and entertaining vehicles, while a lot of the others have stagnated a bit.
@@TheRealJohnWack Yeah I got a 22 VN DCT after only driving Toyotas for 20 years, love the VN. Toyota is starting to come around with their new GR cars but I'm looking forward to the N Vision 74, it's a jaw dropper.
The dude with the Kona N is like. Hold a sec let me press the NGS button. UUUUUUuuuuuuuuuh
Hyundai did their homework and succeeded.
Sam we want to see your 550i against other cars!!
550i? he got that boring of a car?
Genesis & Hyundai ♥️💚
Thanks Mr. CarLegion👍
Man that Mazda is disappointing. I expected the Kona N to smoke them, but thought Mazda would pull in 2nd.
I love the styling of the Kona N so much more than the EN. Would be a amazingly fun, eco friendly when wanted, daily. Nmw what Hyundai or KIA come out with they'll sadly always have the most hate it seems🥴.
they have zero hate on this channel, only gobs of supporters.
@@roboticvenom1935 I just mean in general all Hyundai and KIA get hated on simply for the brand.
@@RevsALot yeah in the real world they do, but don't deserve it
That's rapidly changing though. Just look at Kia and Hyundai sales and consumer loyalty growth, same with Genesis
@@roboticvenom1935 best bang for your buck on the market imo, love the Genesis models.
i mean yeah but at the rate hyundai is going its just going to make tokyo drift seem super outdated with that one famous line
Can you put up the distance and the car speeds for the race? We have no idea if this is a mile race or how fast the cars are going….
nice race men. im going with the accord. all day every day.
To be honest, i was suprised how well the mazda 3 held up against the accord. We gotta get a mazda speed 3 with a new transmission and turbo. Might give the Kona N a run for its money if they tune it for high end power instead of low end torque.
Kona has a jb4
I heard JB6
@@SamCarLegion cringe
I agree! It has that. It's moving away from an Accord that traps over 100mph like a Mustang GT 5.0 would. My estimate would be around 110mph is what the Kona is trapping. Far from stock. Also notice the lightweight wheels.
@@onlystockcars3769 it was trapping 150mph by the end of the runway
I wanted the subaru wrx auto to be in it to see if it would beat the accord
It can’t it lost badly against the Hyundai and the Kia both did have the 2.5T with the 8 speed DCT
@@FrostFangTMGamingAnimeManga I still want to see it
For mazda there is an chance to tune the car, because 2.5 engine should hold up easily 350 hp
Mazda was planning on making a higher performance model 3 with 350hp and something like 380lb ft but covid killed the concept
The zoom zoom is no longer a language that Mazda speaks
You should do the 3 Ns