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Tony White's Syracuse Defense (History and Film Study of White's 3-3-5 Defense)
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2022
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In this video, we trace the origins and history of the 3-3-5 defense ran by Defensive Coordinator Tony White' with the Syracuse Orange football program. We'll see how this defense had its origin in the creative defenses that Joe Lee Dunn ran at New Mexico in the 1980's, how Dunn developed those defenses into the 3-3-5, and how White's mentor Rocky Long took over those ideas and developed them at schools like Oregon State, UCLA, New Mexico, and San Diego State. We'll also see what makes this version of 3-3-5 defense different from the one run by Jon Heacock with the Iowa State Cyclones.
Anyone else a Nebraska fan who came to this video to see an in-depth look at who Tony White is?
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This is an excellent breakdown and I look forward to Tony White bringing the 3-3-5 to Nebraska. But I still think Nebraska should try to run the 3-4-5 as often as they can get away with it. Because, let's face it, my Huskers need all the help they can get.
You can't run a 3-4-5.. I mean you can, but then you're asking for a penalty for having too many players on the field lol.
Lol, I've said for years we really need to step up our ref bribing game to allow strategies like this. Let's go for broke and run a 4-4-5
Nebraska fan. I was excited about the hire, but this video got me even more excited. #GBr
The details in and quality of your videos are second to none. Your content is awesome. Keep up the great work.
Thank you so much!
Welcome to Nebraska Tony White!
Love the deep dive. Played in a 3-3-5 in college. You hit it spot on this defense was made to attack pro style offenses. I had a lot of fun/freedom in this defense.
Great breakdown!! Excited to see all the situational possibilities tweaked to our players! This, I feel is why Butler came back and probably has Nelson frothing at the mouth! Perfect D for Fiest too!
Tony White will be coordinating Super Bowl defenses, one day!
Awesome football lesson again. The historic framework is gives the necessary depth to understand what’s going on. Your breakdowns that in the progression and evolution of schemes. So much more than 11v11 !!!
Side note: Do you expect and or foresee any changes to the schemes or play calling for Cal on both sides of the ball ?
Off the cuff question… why is JW hanging on to BM ? Why doesn’t BM call every game similar to the last big game … the players looked as if the strings holding them back were cut loose
At its schematic best, BM's offense can rival the Stanford offenses that we saw until 5-6 years ago. Super precise, slice-and-dice run game in the front with multiple TE's and a FB. The OL has been a massive problem toward realizing that vision, and when you look at our OL coach's resume, you see that there's really no reason to believe in him, IMO. Do we really want an OL coach whose peak was coaching for Rick Neuheisel's UCLA teams? Assistant hires matter, and on the offensive side of the ball we don't have many guys that anyone else would want. It's easy to blame that on budget, but there are always coaches out there for guys who know how to find them. If Wilcox had that eye, he would've been successful and, frankly, would've probably been out of here.
Awesome breakdown. Played for Coach Long at SDSU so know it well. Great job of explaining a complicated and extremely fun system.
How did you find that it did against power run teams or 12 personnel?
@@jason2174 highly adaptable to any personnel. Like video shows different methods for play to unfold into a 4 or 5 man front.
That's a pretty great endorsement, hah! Glad you liked it.
The big question is will this 335 defense work in the Big 10 does Nebraska defense have the horses up front
Another masterpiece. This one hits close to home. Go Devils!!
Herm's connection to SDSU might've been the catalyst that this defense needed to go mainstream. It's crazy to me that basically nobody from this tree worked their way up to a P5 job until 2018. Brady Hoke's the exception, but he had Michigan ties that weren't based on his connection to this defense.
I think that Long's 3-3-5 has a lot to contribute to this new 3-high world that we're moving into now vs. the spread, and I hope that guy's like White and Arnett make some noise so that these ideas can start getting pushed a little bit more. I think it'd be good for schematic history in the long run.
@@TheCoordinatorProject Absolutely. The 335 is solid, but its tough to recruit defensive linemen and pass rushers using it. Most recruits want to play for NFL style defenses , thus you have to rely on getting gems in the rough and develop them for a few years. Its a great system when you're building a program that lacks talent (ASU..thanks Todd Graham!), but I think the 335 tends to hit a wall when it comes to stopping good P5 schools week in and week out. This video compliments your ASU 4-3 video marvelously.
Yeah, it's kind of a weird combination of positions from a projection standpoint. You're really recruiting a 3-4 DL with 4-3 LB's, but they fit together like neither of those systems. The main position that doesn't exist in the 3-3-5 is the pure EDGE rusher, which I think is what Pierce was talking about being unable to recruit; LB's have to be able to stack and pursue (requiring more range than a typical EDGE), and DL aren't typically edge rushers, so that''s one highlight-reel position that the defense doesn't have. If you think of the LB's as 4-3 LB's, though, then quick, penetrating guys who can get after the passer have a ton of value in modern NFL defenses, and the DL should project either to a big, space-eating 3-4 DL, or to a smaller, stunting/penetrating 4-3 DT. Once one of these coaches makes some noise at the P5 level, I think that people's imaginations will get a lot better in recruiting and scouting, because this defense is only becoming more relevant with some of the anti-spread developments that are happening throughout college and the NFL.
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yes bro been waiting. great content
Love the video coach, someone linked it on Reddit when someone asked for differences between Heacock’s 3-3 and this defense. I’d love to see a breakdown of Dave Aranda’s tite 3-4 if you haven’t already
I did a matchup breakdown of Baylor vs. Oklahoma in 2021, but beyond that Aranda's a guy that I'll definitely treat more in the future. In researching these videos, I've gotten really interested in a Mountain West school of defense that popped up from 2008-2012 or so (with Aranda and Justin Wilcox being key figures, with take-off coaches like Todd Orlando, Gary Andersen, and others coming along for the ride) and I think there's a lot of schematic history to be written about that period. In the meantime, look out for my upcoming Alabama video, where some indirect comments on Ron Roberts will play a surprising role!
Great Video! You will have a ton of Nebraska people on this video. Can you help me understand how this defensive scheme is different (if at all) than the one Bo Pellini ran while at Nebraska? Seems VERY similar. Base Nickel...a lobo (he called it a Peso at nebraska) Bo ran a 2 gap defensive front with 4 down "most" of time. But often had someone else come up in run support.
I haven't done a Pellini study, but my understanding is that he was much more of a true 4-down front guy. In any defense you'll have ways to get 4 and 5 first-level defenders, but in the 3-3 that fourth guy can be any one of the three LB's, so there's more versatility in how you get into different looks (guys in this tree will literally say "We have five different ways to get into an Over front." It's something that they see as a huge part of their system). Also, White's defense isn't particularly big on 2-gapping, with a lot more movement and penetration, especially from the LB's that are adding in via the blitz. If you're using a blitzing LB to do the job that a DT would do in a more traditional 4-2 alignment, then that guy won't be 2-gapping over an OG! Again, I haven't studied Pellini, but was his Peso a guy who could play the deep middle like a FS, or was he more of a NB/OLB tweener (essentially a Nickel Sam LB)? From a personnel standpoint, the Long 3-3-5 is a lot closer to the three-high Nickel looks that are becoming trendy out of Iowa State, but the fronts and pressures are significantly more aggressive, so you'll get more guys in the box and more blitzing, with many fewer drop-8 coverages.
Got to do a nc state video
welp, im a nebraska fan, so i guess i should familiarize myself with this defense.
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Doing the same thing lol
seems sorta similar to the 3-4, and i remember some of polini's defenses having that peso position. i just know i never ran the 335 with any success in ncaa🤣
Would love to see something on Kevin Steele’s defence to see how he can elevate the Hurricanes
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Can you do jimbo and the Texas A&M offense. Seems like if that kind of offense can get a great qb they always score very easily.
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Ok let's see what this man brings to the table. A littler nervous about the running game against this defense though 🤔
Great video
WVU used the 335 for years to blitz and it worked great. Then Rich Rod took it to Ann Arbor and it stunk. Guess we'll see...
I wouldn't worry too much about that comparison. RichRod's DC stayed at WVU when he went to Michigan, and the DC's that he brought to Ann Arbor weren't part of that coaching tree. The 3-3-5 was created in the era of pro-style 90's offense, and offenses across the country have only gone more spread in the 12 years since RichRod was at UM (not to say that it's the same in every conference, of course). Running this kind of thing just requires the understanding that you're relying on multiplicity and movement to attack the run game, and any time you're relying on scheme in that way, you're heavily dependent of your DC's gameplanning ability.
Syracuse loses a Rocky Long disciple and replaces him with Rocky Long himself. Gotta love it.
We got a coach from one of the worst teams in the country. Nice
@@setokaiba6436 when your total offense is ranked 100+ to have a defense ranked around 40 there is something there to behold...
Could you do Tommy Chang Hawaii?
Yep
Are you a consultant for these teams? what's your backround?
I wish, hah. I just started diving into coaching materials and doing film study about 12 years ago, and since then I've just been grinding and learning more every day. This channel is the pay-off of all that work.
Where you find a lot of this film footage mate? Good job btw. I like the dynamics and disruption ability of this D. Jus not sold yet against heavy run teams w huge linemen. IE Wisconsin and Minnesota ta name a few.
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How many Husker fans are here
Sry but this isn't reinventing the wheel.Living in the Midwest I see Iowa State doing this defense at higher level facing higher level opponents.
He did one on their defence
Generally speaking, Iowa State and Syracuse face roughly the same level of competition.
He mentions IS in this video multiple times dude
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