What Did ATP Tennis Look Like in the 1990s?

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  • @marciostavares
    @marciostavares 3 роки тому +203

    In 2050: "What did ATP Tennis look like in the 2020s?"
    A: 2 minutes highlights of 5-hour Grand Slam matches.

    • @Funkytrip73
      @Funkytrip73 3 роки тому +8

      UUHUHHHHH!!!! AAAAAARRGGHHHH!!! IIIEIEIEEEIIIEEEEE!!!! OOOOOOOAAHAAHHAHAH!!!!
      women grunts

    • @kendricklamar4671
      @kendricklamar4671 3 роки тому

      Ahahahhaha

    • @ng5309
      @ng5309 2 роки тому +1

      An era of tennis where players who actually don't play tennis win, I'm talking about opelka isner karlovic eccetera

    • @syndicalistspeedsolver
      @syndicalistspeedsolver 2 роки тому

      @@ng5309 ????

    • @ng5309
      @ng5309 2 роки тому

      @@syndicalistspeedsolver I don't consider some big serve players tennis players because they are the exact opposite of what I consider tennis

  • @Pavel_grodman
    @Pavel_grodman 3 роки тому +147

    Net judge seemed like a very dangerous job

  • @kerrithbritland8583
    @kerrithbritland8583 3 роки тому +31

    TV Producer: Which video transitions should we use?
    Editor: Yes

  • @myraalather7970
    @myraalather7970 8 місяців тому +3

    Golden Era of tennis..it was way to cool.

  • @west4798
    @west4798 3 роки тому +62

    Court speed variety is good for the game. Needs to comeback IMO

    • @Dom-yv4nq
      @Dom-yv4nq 3 роки тому +6

      Courts have been slowed to compensate for racquet technology allowing players to hit the ball much harder/faster. As it is right now players stand considerably further back at times during a rally. The game is evolving.

    • @BrazilDan1
      @BrazilDan1 3 роки тому +20

      @@Dom-yv4nq Yes, but I agree with West that variety makes the game more interesting. So, even if you slow down all courts to deal with modern racquet technology, maybe the best solution is to slow then down in a considerably different amount - i.e. allow some courts to remain noticeably faster relative to others so that you favor different styles a bit more, which f doesn't seem to be the case today, it's all pretty similar.

    • @Dom-yv4nq
      @Dom-yv4nq 3 роки тому +2

      @@BrazilDan1 most hard courts are similar speeds (indoor courts vary), grass (Wimbledon) is faster and clay is slower. I guess that's it?

    • @BrazilDan1
      @BrazilDan1 3 роки тому +13

      @@Dom-yv4nq What I'm saying is that there used to be much more difference between those surfaces before. Now claycourts are much more similar to grasscourts than they used to be, and so on.

    • @yusufkasikci8416
      @yusufkasikci8416 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/pWsvD8X6q8s/v-deo.html

  • @apoorvyadav4502
    @apoorvyadav4502 3 роки тому +23

    The umpire's cap at 2:30 looks sick af

    • @nateh6325
      @nateh6325 3 роки тому +1

      Same with sampras shorts at 6:46

    • @apoorvyadav4502
      @apoorvyadav4502 3 роки тому +2

      @@nateh6325 those shorts are too short I guess😂

  • @jeffhermida4788
    @jeffhermida4788 3 роки тому +8

    strategy is the same but biggest difference is the sliding on hard courts. shots back then seem unreachable but today the sliding made it possible to get to those unreachable shots.

    • @syndicalistspeedsolver
      @syndicalistspeedsolver 2 роки тому

      didnt thiink of that thanks! do they use some sort of different paint or coating now?

  • @TheDavidfromcali
    @TheDavidfromcali 3 роки тому +88

    The music sounds like its from a Gran Turismo game

    • @francescodecio4334
      @francescodecio4334 3 роки тому +2

      I was just about to write the same comment ahah

    • @nielssorensen9856
      @nielssorensen9856 3 роки тому +4

      The internet sure is a toxic place. The cretinous specimen above me is an example of this...

    • @francescodecio4334
      @francescodecio4334 3 роки тому +1

      @@nielssorensen9856 no worries

    • @yusufkasikci8416
      @yusufkasikci8416 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/pWsvD8X6q8s/v-deo.html

  • @aayushshah8974
    @aayushshah8974 3 роки тому +3

    Mannnn!! The level of their tennis is out of this world!

  • @marciostavares
    @marciostavares 3 роки тому +5

    5:10 It feels like playing video game in an old arcade room!

  • @icelandicjam
    @icelandicjam 2 роки тому +1

    i started watching some older matches recently and the net judges and drinking from cups really stood out to me

  •  3 роки тому +9

    Damn that Paris Bercy introduction was lit! Great stuff :D

  • @Hammyceps
    @Hammyceps 3 роки тому +8

    The 90s look hella fire

  • @bengray5013
    @bengray5013 3 роки тому +2

    The best days of tennis 🎾

  • @danran4601
    @danran4601 Рік тому

    The vibrant opening sequences were insane!!!

  • @idontsignin
    @idontsignin 3 роки тому +4

    The top 10 was half baseline players and the other half was serve & volley players. That for me is probably the biggest difference. Clay court specialists would struggle to get by the 1st round of Wimbledon and grass court specialist would struggle at the French. Pete Sampras lost a good a good few 1st round matches at the French and then go on to dominate Wimbledon.

  • @hxhky
    @hxhky 3 роки тому +5

    Tennis was so much more versatile back then.

  • @shivasuresh5957
    @shivasuresh5957 3 роки тому +7

    Variety in playing style made the game more interesting back then. Back then, you had the big baseline hitters but also had the serve and volleyers not to mention the grinders who lacked firepower but won with speed and guile. Because of racket & string technology evolution, most players play roughly the same way these days. There are still some like Federer, Kyrgios, Monfils, etc that make today's game exciting to watch but overall there isn't as much variety as before the racket evolution.

  • @oberdot
    @oberdot 3 роки тому +2

    People complaining about lack of serve and volley today have clearly forgotten what it was like to watch two serve and volleyers play a match .....

  • @TheSentinel909
    @TheSentinel909 3 роки тому +1

    Dude those openings are AMAZING :D

  • @GUTOMOFFICIAL
    @GUTOMOFFICIAL 3 роки тому +1

    The music! The graphics!

  • @87crimson
    @87crimson 3 роки тому +4

    Are you telling me that the players went close to the net other than on the coin toss and handshake?
    Madness...

  • @mahmoudHamedinyourservice
    @mahmoudHamedinyourservice 3 роки тому +29

    Great video. We wanna see the 80s 😂

  • @bklzvovz
    @bklzvovz 3 роки тому +76

    I actually miss those days. The courts and the equipment ultimately favoured the better shotmaker and not the toughest grinder as it is today.

    • @grimson
      @grimson 3 роки тому +14

      Jim Courier grinded his way to a few Slams and #1 for a couple of years and he was far from the best shotmaker.

    • @mrcid572
      @mrcid572 3 роки тому +3

      @@grimson not really he set everything up on his forehand

    • @guillezorro
      @guillezorro 3 роки тому +22

      Good point. That is the measure of Fed's greatness. The only player who could prosper in any era, on any court. If he was some sort of timeless machine, he'd have won stuff in every decade since tennis began.

    • @ryansodhi1815
      @ryansodhi1815 3 роки тому +5

      @@guillezorro true federer changed tennis and made the standard very high as it is today

    • @cophi501
      @cophi501 3 роки тому +5

      Sounds like tennis became more athletic then.

  • @christionson24
    @christionson24 3 роки тому +11

    you're producing really cool stuff guys!

  • @alekmaz5358
    @alekmaz5358 3 роки тому +2

    Boris Becker showed some humor here :)

  • @mauriciosanchez5313
    @mauriciosanchez5313 3 роки тому +5

    Best atp video ever!!!!

  • @Alessio669
    @Alessio669 3 роки тому +2

    5:49 No one looks like Axel Rose more than Agassi in the 90's.

  • @gregas13
    @gregas13 3 роки тому +7

    What a great video. Good job Tennis TV

  • @kingtrawal
    @kingtrawal Рік тому

    90s the golden era for EVERYTHING

  • @knotwilg3596
    @knotwilg3596 3 роки тому +2

    "Oh man I wanted to see the Wimbledon finals so I programmed my VCR but there was a power outage at 4 PM so it recorded Dallas instead"

  • @eastennis
    @eastennis 3 роки тому +149

    What did tennis look like in the 90s?
    Clothes that were too big for the players 😂

    • @robertohaubold752
      @robertohaubold752 3 роки тому +12

      6:46 Sampras's shorts would disagree

    • @eastennis
      @eastennis 3 роки тому +4

      @@robertohaubold752 yes, agreed 🤣

    • @pusashit
      @pusashit 3 роки тому +2

      That’s more like early 00’s

    • @eastennis
      @eastennis 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah. For me late 90s and early 2000s were the same thing basically

    • @francescoaloisi1817
      @francescoaloisi1817 3 роки тому +3

      The oversized and baggy😍🤩

  • @davedrust6378
    @davedrust6378 3 роки тому +2

    Such a classier era. Skilled tennis. Not every shot was a haymaker...

  • @veganioan
    @veganioan 3 роки тому +21

    The last part is hard to watch.

  • @MrLemu77
    @MrLemu77 3 роки тому +1

    Those were the times where grass was very fast, hardcourt were fast and clay was slow.
    Today, it is medium fast for hardcourt, slow for grass, very slow for clay.

  • @tiesthijsthejs
    @tiesthijsthejs 3 роки тому +6

    How do people look back at things in the 2020’s? Even more superficial than the 1990’s.
    This video is not about tennis it self but primarily a glimpse at how the media communicated tennis. How visual styles of videos were. Instead of focusing on how the actual tennis was. The relevant historic rivalries, the evolutions of the gameplay and abilities and techniques. How classic baseline versus attacking serve volley was pushed to the limit with amazing offensive play. But how at the end of the 1990’s many players relied on huge serves only. Which wasn’t entertaining. And the gradual shifts towards the 2000’s when courts and balls and rackets changed to facilitate rallying athleticism. And players like Hewitt, Safin and especially Federer evolved the game further to a spectacular variety. And the court and ball changes were further slowed and heavier which paved the way for complete annihilation of serve volley and variety, as the 2010’s to 2020’s forced evolution of defensive baseline safe powerplay became a new boring standard.

  • @HILAL19564
    @HILAL19564 2 роки тому

    The beautiful '90's

  • @lukey1210
    @lukey1210 3 роки тому

    The opening to this damn I missed that!!!! So 90s

  • @masters.1000
    @masters.1000 3 роки тому +23

    Early 90s was the best era of the sport, by far.

    • @chewey3rd
      @chewey3rd 3 роки тому +2

      Agree 100%

    • @olivermccall9770
      @olivermccall9770 3 роки тому +2

      2011 and 2015 were the best

    • @chewey3rd
      @chewey3rd 3 роки тому +2

      @@olivermccall9770 Nope

    • @kikaa1884
      @kikaa1884 Рік тому

      1970's, 1980's, 1990's,2000's and 2010's all are great just Tennis fans are dumb and brainless people who have no respect towards tennis sport and Pro tennis players
      It is not right to insult Rod laver also

  • @lihihongan5289
    @lihihongan5289 3 роки тому +1

    When tennis was fun to watch...

  • @SiddharthVaz
    @SiddharthVaz 3 роки тому

    That was a welcome blast from the past.

  • @rahulfederer20
    @rahulfederer20 3 роки тому +15

    Wish courts were fast like this and not every fucking slam became clay court

    • @rishbahpandey8697
      @rishbahpandey8697 3 роки тому

      You are jobless indian hating Rafa .Rafa is GOAT😂😂

    • @talentroller4413
      @talentroller4413 3 роки тому

      current ao court is pretty fast

    • @sephsmals7383
      @sephsmals7383 2 роки тому

      @@rishbahpandey8697 who mentioned rafa? the world doesnt revolve around him.

  • @kinomusic9110
    @kinomusic9110 3 роки тому +13

    I never understood the drinking from cups, even then.

  • @sandeepssv8930
    @sandeepssv8930 3 роки тому +3

    That Bercy intro looked like a horror movie lmao. What were those angles?

  • @gauravgummaraju
    @gauravgummaraju 3 роки тому +1

    The 2nd half of this video feels like a fever dream

  • @chicken0fdoom947
    @chicken0fdoom947 3 роки тому +2

    Fun video 😄

  • @sergiolenarduzzi4670
    @sergiolenarduzzi4670 3 роки тому +5

    I was there.472 atp. Money was low, but steroid use was not as rampant as today.

    • @villelofving3668
      @villelofving3668 3 роки тому

      Everyone get tested for drugs. If tested positive you are not allowed to play on the tour, obviously.

  • @kevinchang8090
    @kevinchang8090 3 роки тому

    i actually love those video transitions XD

  • @vdbdg
    @vdbdg 3 роки тому +2

    When I think of 90’s tennis, I don’t remember those minute details as much as players that had very different games and personalities unlike the new generation of robots we’re supposed to get excited about.

  • @user-oe4wr9tn2n
    @user-oe4wr9tn2n 2 роки тому +1

    I think tennis for a casual viewer is going to be a lot more interesting if the game is built on winners rather than unforced errors. I think fortune should favor the brave, because the more highlight reel level shots we can produce a match means more net interest in tennis. SO we need to strike a compromise between 90's and 2020 tennis.

  • @sirrakete4942
    @sirrakete4942 3 роки тому +22

    Serve and volley is ten times more exciting then baseline tennis

    • @talentroller4413
      @talentroller4413 3 роки тому +2

      serve and volley is more one sided as it is always likely to favour the server. baseline is more unpredictable and encourages survival of the fittest. far more interesting

    • @mrRandypm
      @mrRandypm 3 роки тому +1

      @고영욱 I agree that serve-and-volley is unpredictable in the sense that you might get passed or lobbed. It needs better hand skills, reflexes, and tactical awareness. It's hard because you need to think and act quickly, unlike in baseline play. However, I don't quite agree that you have to be more athletic compared to being on the baseline. Since you tend to spend more on the net, you don't have to pay as much attention to lateral movement compared to being on the baseline since you cover as much court as possible when you're at the net. Because of this, you don't have to develop as much stamina as in baseline play since you don't have to move from side to side as much. For me personally, serve-and-volley is more exciting than baseline play because it emphasizes finesse and shot-making than power and simply outlasting your opponent.

    • @talentroller4413
      @talentroller4413 3 роки тому +1

      @고영욱 put it however you want. most of the serve and volley style is almost always won by the server. Current style also challenges the physical limits, endurance, stamina and movement speed of the player more than ever before. The slides and other trick shots were absent back in the day

    • @yusufkasikci8416
      @yusufkasikci8416 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/pWsvD8X6q8s/v-deo.html

    • @garrydhintz8017
      @garrydhintz8017 3 роки тому

      @@talentroller4413 they were there back then, the only difference is that it wasn't the only game in town. There was more changes of pace and deception and you saw more mixing of shots. Today you see almost exclusively heavy ass topspin and running back and forth to see who gets past the other first. So many times I see how far back they are and I'd be laughing at how bad you can get them with a proper drop shot. Or drive them close with a soft slice and finish it with a clean love shot. Half of these guys today wouldn't even know what to do and stand there like deer in headlights.

  • @Pistenferkel007
    @Pistenferkel007 3 роки тому +1

    The 90s had tennis tournaments in Germany

  • @JG-lt1dn
    @JG-lt1dn 3 роки тому +2

    ATP in the 80s next!

  • @rofflander3302
    @rofflander3302 3 роки тому +2

    Nice love tennis

  • @saritsirisirilert2428
    @saritsirisirilert2428 3 роки тому

    Back in a day’!!!

  • @garrydhintz8017
    @garrydhintz8017 3 роки тому

    Is it just me or does it look more vibrant, and exciting and the styles look more interesting than today with everyone slamming topspin and running the baseline all day wearing safety vest green and nobody really has as creative of shots or wants to roll the dice and come to net because they are too scared to deal with passing shots. Look at Thomas Muster, he would charge the net and run clear to the back wall to go after that ball. He wasn't scared to hustle anywhere or dive into the seats to save a point. That's excitement. Today everything is more vanilla and it just looks more up-tight than it used to be.

  • @SportsXDAT10
    @SportsXDAT10 3 роки тому

    Tennis is a sport to watch.

  • @babolat1979
    @babolat1979 3 роки тому +3

    Ah the pre polyester string days.....try using what these players used...

  • @francescoaloisi1817
    @francescoaloisi1817 3 роки тому +2

    The music in this video sounds like 80s

  • @jinintro8120
    @jinintro8120 3 роки тому

    fast court and play, physically and gentleman

  • @Sebastian-wz1wh
    @Sebastian-wz1wh 3 роки тому +2

    I'm glad tennis moving forward and replacing human line judges and net judge with technology, much better viewing experience

  • @ClarenceFM
    @ClarenceFM 3 роки тому

    Ho man the music is so good

  • @kodax2
    @kodax2 Рік тому

    The crazy thing is that Federer has a h2h with most of the players in this video.

  • @nikolaspetrovic3525
    @nikolaspetrovic3525 3 роки тому +1

    Who else flinched at 0:07?😂

  • @danielmurphy4415
    @danielmurphy4415 3 роки тому +4

    Much more classy back then!

  • @hxhky
    @hxhky 3 роки тому

    Why the video was suddenly sped up from serve and volley? 1:41

  • @WONGLER
    @WONGLER 3 роки тому

    "Sportkanal" - I miss it so much

  • @Mrunreal
    @Mrunreal 3 роки тому

    6:54 So that's where Herbert got his hairstyle from...

  • @CarlosEmilioEsq
    @CarlosEmilioEsq 3 роки тому +1

    The outfits might be a little hard to look at, but the tennis was a helluva lot more interesting than it's been a the last fifteen years. Miss the different styles of play. So tired of the grinder's tour we have now.

  • @francescod2018
    @francescod2018 2 роки тому

    Becker was so handsome!

  • @sachind6951
    @sachind6951 3 роки тому +5

    very different. how it has changed...

  • @TheProcess09
    @TheProcess09 3 роки тому +3

    5:36 this guy look like zverev

  • @kerrithbritland8583
    @kerrithbritland8583 3 роки тому

    I can see the khaki safari shorts making a comeback ngl

  • @Dom-yv4nq
    @Dom-yv4nq 3 роки тому

    Ridiculously short shorts. 5"? I wore them. Lmao. Oh and... Gabriella Sabatini. 😍🤩😍🤩😍🤩

  • @Doty6String
    @Doty6String 3 роки тому

    The sound of fresh gut string jobs. We all know poly is better, but that sound of gut.

  • @miguelbarahona6636
    @miguelbarahona6636 3 роки тому +1

    1:41. That's scary!

  • @rockerrocker9916
    @rockerrocker9916 3 роки тому +11

    *edberg* oh my friend Sampras is going to lift me up after I just took a hard fall!
    *sampras* Hmmmm maybe I should just shake him

    • @barryschwarz
      @barryschwarz 3 роки тому

      Haha. Yes, that was not the most elegant post-rally transaction.

  • @andrewgaule3610
    @andrewgaule3610 3 роки тому +6

    PAT RAFTER!

  • @ghazankhan7600
    @ghazankhan7600 3 роки тому +18

    The courts were so fast
    The game was just serve and volley

    • @JD-jc8gp
      @JD-jc8gp 3 роки тому +1

      Not on clay.

    • @Tommy-le7sg
      @Tommy-le7sg 3 роки тому +6

      Boring af

    • @marcgrondin65
      @marcgrondin65 3 роки тому +7

      Except for : Agassi, Courrier, Chang, Kuerten, Lendl, Muster, Bruguera, Safin, Moya, Kafelnikov, Enqvist .. if you exclude all of those - then yes : strictly server & volley.

    • @danguee1
      @danguee1 3 роки тому +7

      @@Tommy-le7sg Or, these days: big robot cyborgs crush the ball into the corners at 150kph for hours and hours and hours on end. Truly boring AF. Each point is identical to the last.
      It wasn't all serve and volley in the 90s - half the players were baseliners so there were lots of contrasting style matchups. But you wouldn't know that because you haven't looked - at least not with open eyes/mind. Rios, Agassi, Kafelnikov, Chang, Courier, Brugera, Lendl, Moya, Kuerten, Korda, Gomez - all GS champions (Rios No.1) and none of them serve volleyers.
      In fact only 6 of the GS winners in the 90s were serve-volleyers. 10 were baseliners. What do you reckon now?

    • @Tommy-le7sg
      @Tommy-le7sg 3 роки тому +6

      @@danguee1 I'm only talking about constant serve and volley being boring, I know not everyone did this in the 90's. Just like you cant say everyone nowadays hits huge serves which aren't returnable.

  • @Jack-fo2pc
    @Jack-fo2pc 3 роки тому +1

    Federer played in the 90s, makes you think

  • @fabricefabrice3612
    @fabricefabrice3612 3 роки тому

    The best

  • @jegorsharitonovs5200
    @jegorsharitonovs5200 3 роки тому

    nostalgia

  • @andresasoVC
    @andresasoVC 3 роки тому

    Who is the tennis player on the left at 6:47?

  • @sirhamalot8651
    @sirhamalot8651 3 роки тому +1

    Drinking from cups:
    Yeah, back then we drank tap water instead of putting tap water in a plastic bottle and paying a $2 for it.

  • @ddiesel1836
    @ddiesel1836 3 роки тому

    Serve and volley still existed

  • @rebirth_mishap
    @rebirth_mishap 3 роки тому

    who's that player in the beginning?

  • @instinctmrk671
    @instinctmrk671 3 роки тому +2

    0:39 *When Ron drops out of Hogwarts and becomes a pro tennis player*

  • @FlippedSociety
    @FlippedSociety 3 роки тому

    0:47...witness the first ever Dab.

  • @mainhoondon21
    @mainhoondon21 3 роки тому

    The fashion part is so short. Feels like a last minute addition.

    • @bengray5013
      @bengray5013 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah they could have made an entire 5 min video on that alone

    • @mainhoondon21
      @mainhoondon21 3 роки тому

      @@bengray5013 haha i was thinking the same thing! 90s fashion was insane.

    • @bengray5013
      @bengray5013 3 роки тому +1

      @@mainhoondon21 absolutely was 😆

  • @thumbsdownbandit
    @thumbsdownbandit 3 роки тому

    The first was a ball kid.

  • @Mzee1084
    @Mzee1084 3 роки тому +2

    "90s". Yet clips from the 2000s being shown lol

  • @jamesklatt
    @jamesklatt 3 роки тому +1

    Probably the last good decade for american tennis (agassi/sampras)

  • @cadenblock7844
    @cadenblock7844 3 роки тому +4

    💯🔥🔥🔥

  • @whuang03
    @whuang03 3 роки тому +3

    The 90s is definitely the best time to watch tennis. There were a lot more variety of styles in the ATP. You have pure serve and volley guys, you have all court guys, and the all baseline. Now, everyone is pretty much all baseline. (aka aggressive baseline BS), maybe except Federer. Is mostly pretty boring to watch now.

  • @pampurko223
    @pampurko223 3 роки тому

    It looked like there was audience

  • @peterookotai6965
    @peterookotai6965 3 роки тому

    In short, it was awesome

  • @rbclima
    @rbclima 3 роки тому

    Hahaha great video 😂

  • @noaharbab2164
    @noaharbab2164 3 роки тому +1

    90s was all about pistol Pete

  • @jasoncowell5133
    @jasoncowell5133 3 роки тому +4

    Better tennis than the past 10years. More variety and nuance overall by the majority of players. Majority knew what a volley was for a start. Racket technology is killing tennis as an art form.

  • @user-be5qg7mr1s
    @user-be5qg7mr1s 3 роки тому

    I hated sampras baggy white shirts. Tennis fashion is at its best form now although those shorts on a younger boris becker were on fire ;-)