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Starfild is definitely an oddity because On one hand, I knew for years this game would turn out exactly like it did. Be honest. If you have any understanding of how games are made and you are up to date with what the creation engine is, this was the only result that was possible. So I feel a lot of validation for all the problems/ hate Starfiled is getting. But also, I'm really enjoying the game and can not wait for the survival mode to come out. The need to buy and actually re fuel space ships is gonna be fun/hell.
@@ClearlyHunter I honestly did wish they would figure out a way to make the engine load interior cells seamlessly, I guess since most games now can do it is what makes it a little jarring. You can tell that they said you will need a SSD at this point for loading times, but I don't think it was optimized at all for faster SSDs like nVME like most new PCs and the PS5 has but more SATA SSDs which are vastly faster then a traditional HDD but not even close to the top speed of even a Gen 4 nVME SSD. (SATA SSD is 600MBs where a Gen 4 nVME SSD is 5GBs a second). How long this game was in dev it makes sense a bit, even 3 years ago nVME was pretty expensive. It is MUCH cheaper now, even compared to SATA SSDs. Things like the well boasted DirectStorage from Microsoft are absent.
My 10700kf and my 3060ti have been running the game great. I haven't had any issues. Sure, I get frame drops in cities but it levels out and isnt stuttery at all. I also haven't had any glitches aside from the very annoying but also fun phased time glitch.
IGN: The game is fun but not without issues, 7 out of 10 The internet: HOW F'KING DARE YOU! AHHHH!!!!!!! 2 weeks later The internet: Man, this game has issues
@@insertnamehere4419 correct. That's the point I'm making. Pc gaming is great, expect when you have 1 or 2 outdated components and cant run the newest games.
They flat out confirmed the game is getting stability updates as well, so regardless of what he meant, he was lying to make it sound cutting edge. "Never needs sharpening", and all that.
Love how Todd knows that the fans will keep smelling his farts and telling them it's their fault and not theirs. 👍 keep supporting a company that knows their fans/customers will eat anything they put out.
To be fair, if we want revolutionary game with the best graphics and great gameplay. We need great PC to begin with. Can't blame them for stating facts that heavy games requires great pc.
Isn't that most AAA studios at this point. They churn out crap, people love to pre-order, buy in alpha, buy it immediately and make it a hit before it's even released. Then the AAA studio just ignores the game for awhile and makes a shitload of money. Love it!
If you hate Bethesda games, your opinion on games in general is disregarded automatically, because you just don't know what a good game is. Don't blame me. I didn't make the rules and I'm not the one when decided to hate good games.
@@OrkDiktator I've stop supporting Bethesda after Skyrim. When a multi million dollar company can't even be bothered to put an FoV slider. Fix bugs and issues that have been fixed by modders throughout the decades, why should I give standing ovations to that kind of company. Plus I have self respect , we all deserve better and even you. These companies know that fans will just be happy with the bare minimum. So hey I'm not the one that spends money for a half baked product.
Listen the game ran on my RTX 2060 just fine on medium but I had audio glitches all the time. Couldn't fit it on my ssd so it was on my 4 TB HDD. I bit the bullet and invested in a 2TB 7100 speed ssd for 100 bucks. Swapped it out and moved the game on there and now it runs like a dream and loading is instant. So a small upgrade fixed my audio issues and it's something I've been wanting to do for a while anyway.
Creation Engine has had longstanding audio issues on hard drives and peripheral drives. There's a good reason for Skyrim AE runtime being recommended for installation on your primary drive outside of the OS folders. Works a treat for any and all audio issues. Helped reduce stutters in FO4 for me as well. And no, not even Todd Howard himself knows why this works. It just does. It just... works
idk if you've seen but they've launched a new channel aside from this one that seems more edited letsplay content called "BroughtYouThisThing" it's a collab between them & Kassam G. So far it seems like a lot of the comedy of the first couple videos is pretending your watching a vid from 2012 (like thematically) but then they namedrop some contemporary news headline without context or elaboration then they laugh a little and then go back to talking about nu-metal/hotpockets or something. So it's this weird arc where the channel exists in multiple timelines lol, it's kinda jarring but nice to see a return to edited gaming videos. (Also not sure if this is the actual artistic intent for the channel but it's how I've interpreted the concept)
Hey bruce! Same thing here! Have an i7 6700k n a 3060ti n at 60 fps all high settings 67% scale. I get absolutely no stutter. Do get the occasional frame drop to 40 fps. But doesnt stutter to get there like you said. Heard another channel say its cache based bottleneck in the cpu causing stutter? Maybe your ring ratio is high like mine is? (set it above standard, same as with the core clock)
I followed Hardware Unboxed video about optimizing the game and its running fine on a 4 year old PC with AMD cpu and Nvidia gpu, not getting very high fps (around 40 in cities and 50ish everywhere else) while playing at 1440p without dynamic resolution, that transforms the game into a blob, and most settings at medium/high.
i had crazy stutters but when I reinstalled the game on my ssd everything started working great, have not seen one stutter since. 1660ti with i7 10th gen. running on medium
1660S+i7-9700KF here, running medium just fine as well. Only complaint is no "real" fullscreen option so I have to turn my desktop resolution down from 1440 to 1080 manually each time I start the game, but pretty much no complaints on the visuals at that resolution.
I'm running a 7700x cpu with a RX 6800xt gpu and having no problems with starfield. Bethesda has gone a long way to make FSR2 run smoothly in this game, and even without upscaling I'm getting 80+ FPS on the release patch. Is it really that bad for Nvidia users?
This is the only game I've ever played that is struggling on GeForce now priority servers. 20fps at best on low settings. Only people who play for ultimate which uses 4080s are able to play right now and that is unheard of, TODD.
Tons of people leading up to the game were saying "The modders will fix the game." "It'll be better once modders can play with it." I don't buy a game hoping that the modding community can make better/fix a game i paid full price for. That's a pretty dumb reason to buy/defend a game/company.
The game is just poorly optimized but what can you expect from Bethesda? Give it a year and modders will make the game something Bethesda never could, competent.
I'm playing it on a Ryzen 5 5600x, 32 gigs of ram, with an rtx 3060. Have it installed on a 1tb m.2. I've had no problems so far. I'm about 3 hours in.
13:48 I think that's the majority of the problem. Fps drops on high end GPU even on medium. Ryzen 7 and RTX 3060 TI on medium setting cannot get 60 FPS on New Atlantis and populated area.
Game is running ok on my Ryzen 7 5800H and RTX 3060 on high settings, framerate just tanks in New Atlantis to 30-40ish lol, but pretty much enjoying the game immensely.
Nvidia update yesterday+DLSS mod fixed most of my performance issues on my RTX 2070. Prior to that, if I was on low, medium, high, ultra, doesn't matter. Always 20-35fps. Unoptimized as ever.
@@EUTOPIATTV thats great and all, but as an owner of one, who has been playing starfield since it came out running like dogshit, and then suddenly running way better yesterday after installing that driver update, ill go with what i said and not some random TTV on the internet. :)
@@T0asty- Check the driver patch notes r/nvidia subreddit. It's literally in the patch notes, more than likely you're seeing better performance because you recompiled your shaders. Also outlined in the comments in the new driver update thread on the official sub. But glad your game is running better after recompiling your shader cache; maybe I'll try the same by deleting the file.
Have you checked to see if the new starfield update messed up that mod? I was talking to someone who was unable to launch it till they disabled the DLSS mod they had installed
@@Clubbythaseal The one I used has had no issues. DLSS 3.5 dll file and the mod "Starfield Upscaler" from nexus. I think there was an update for the mod but thats about it? Might be wrong.
Once I downloaded the mod to downgrade the textures to 1080p, it runs great and im having fun. Why they launched the game with ONLY max fidelity textures with no ability to drop quality to save VRAM is baffling. On top of that, the games default configuration is HORRIBLY unoptimal for almost all systems. If you arent familiar with editing INI files for Bethesda games, I recommend you grab somebodies elses optimized configurations. On older hardware you can get up to a 40% bump in performance if your GPU is your throttle. All of that on top of a clunky UI, this sure is another Bethesda game. That said, I am loving my time in the game now that it runs well. The story is engaging and settlements are super fun to build up, with side content everywhere you look. I will definately drop a lot of time on this one.
I too am running the game with out a hitch on an Intel i9 and 40 series card. Ive been blessed. I was also one of the very few people who didn't encounter a single bug while playing cyberpunk at release and had great performance on my 1080 gaming eignat the time. I specifically upgraded my pc quite a bit in anticipation for Starfield
Starfield is not more optimized for consoles than PC. It runs at 30 FPS, medium settings at 1440p upscaled to 4k using FSR (67% resolution scale) on Xbox. they didn't forget to optimize it for PC any more than they forgot to optimize it for Xbox.
My RTX 4070 Nvidia boosts Starfield performance with GPU driver new update, is working really well for me, and the new mod DLSS 3.5 is incredible running fps90 up to 115..
Todd should not have said it, but the reality is that he is partially correct, the reality of PC gaming is that your killer rig from 3+ years ago is going to become less and less relevant for each game release. The Steam forums show people complaining for example, that their 1080TI cant run the game at 4k @60fps. I have a mid-range rig, and I play at 1440p - I was fully expecting to have to upgrade before hitting the play button, but the game runs smooth with no stutters, hitches for me - does it get 60 FPS everywhere? - heck no - but It is is smooth with no obvious latency - the difference is I don't spend my time with the FPS counter on screen taunting me that I am not getting 60+ FPS. I still have to upgrade my rig (3 years old now), but I don't have to rush to do it. Oh also - I have never had a single crash in game - a record I think for a Bethesda title for me.. Love the game, and don't really look for opinions positive or negative from all the "Creators" dining out on Starfield content - I don't need anyone's validation to enjoy the game...
Runs and looks great on my laptop with a 3060, my PC 5700xt with Ryzen 9 3900 12core looks sad, but what gets me is when I stream it from XCloud it looks like total ass what gets me soured. However weather on my PC or laptop weather its on Ultra or low settings the speed doesn't change. I don't know what exactly is going on under the hood I wish there were more options that get under the hood to see what is getting turned on and off in the background.
Honestly I just want a mod that skips the process of having to go to the world map, select a system, go back in the map menu, select a planet, then go back in the menu a 3rd time and select the landing zone. I think the actual game is fun, but all the getting from A to B is way too tedious.
Have you tried opening your scanner while in the cockpit? It won't take away your entire need for the map but it'll cut the amount down significantly, gives a tiny bit more immersion
I'm trying to think of a scenario where you need to "go back" in the map menu. Are you referring to unexplored systems since you can't choose a specific destination until you've landed in the system to "map" it? Seems kinda minor if so.
@@OOZ662 Unless I just haven't figured it out, when you fast travel to a quest that requires you to change systems you have to go in the menu to jump. Then again to jump to the planet and then one more time to where you want to land. I could be doing this wrong too, is there a better way?
I have an intel cpu and rtx 3090 and was running on ultra and also really wasn't seeing performance issues. The all my hardware for my new build literally came out this year except the gpu. Now bugs? Oh yeah. I've seen those typical Bethesda bugs of clipping, phasing into peoples faces, NPCs breaking, etc.
Right now I can’t climb ladders because every time I go into 3rd person my head is gone and I’m just posing with my arms forward, weirdest bug I’ve gotten so far, it makes my characters neck look like a lady’s happy place so that’s kinda hot though
If you're running intel/nvidia hardware and on steam try changing your power plan to high performance. fixed my stutter, for some reason Starfield doesn't put load on the CPU without the extra nudge.
for context about "upgrading a PC" going to a upper tier 40 series card is different than trying to do a more budgeted upgrade from you're 10 year old laptop to a desktop with a 3060. runs BG3 and benchmarks seem fine for pretty much every modern game I'm interested in except starfield
I've heard that the whole AMD-Bethesda conspiring against Nvidia and Intel wasn't the case. I do know that the youtube channel Moores law is dead talked about it.
AMD didn't respond to prominent youtubers like GamersNexus and Hardware Unboxed when they questioned them about witholding DLSS from Starfield sometime back. Only last week AMD said they aren't witholding. So clearly they went in and amended the contracts. Now, DLSS is coming to Starfield. It recently came to Jedi Survivor too post the contract amendments. Moore law guy is a bonafide AMD fanatic, so he shouldn't be your source of truth for anything AMD related.
DLSS is an Nvidia technology and you have to enter into an agreement to license it. I'm inclined to put this squarely at the feet of Nvidia being dicks.
idk. I have a mid level pc but brand hardware. But even at that it's just the aero 4060 ti 8gb, 5600x, 48gb ram. It's running fine on 1080 and 1440. I also load everything I'm currently playing on the nvme ssd drive. I'm not counting frames but it's never crashed out. There was one time as I loaded into a galaxy there was a ship doing the spinning thing but other than that there has been nothing that has broken my immersion or made me not want to play.
I have a 6700XT GPU and 3700X CPU but only get ~50FPS on medium @1080p. Although, I'm having so much fun, I don't care about the frame rate. If you like Bethesda games and if you like sci-fi, you will love Starfield. I did get the game for "free" with the 6700XT. So it might make me a little biased.
Come on people I think we should all just take a moment and go "Bruce you nailed it" for nearly a year before launch you prophesised the extent to which this game would launch.
I'm like Bruce, I haven't had stutter issues with Starfield. I'm running a Ryzen 9 5900X and an RTX 3080 12 GB model and it runs fine on high and ultra. For stream I run it from my laptop that has a Ryzen 7 4800H and RTX 2060 on medium through a capture card and again no issues. I feel bad cuz I'm having an awesome time playing but all my friends are having a rough go of it.
I had an annoying issue where it wouldn't launch at all via PC Game Pass (that's like the one place it SHOULD work lol) and after much messing around, could not figure it out. Just no clue.
Just came back to No Man's Sky after 4 years. Hooked. And I haven't even got to anything new. But I do want to play starfield. But prob after a few updates.
I've noticed with all of the verbage used by people at AMD, BGS and XB; it all has seemed very specific and I'm left wondering if that now that the game is out, the AMD deal now allows the game to be optimised for other platforms other than what run AMD chipsets. I mean, the Intel disparity. Yikes. Now we should see much better performance coming. Watch this space.
46% faster line made my blood boil. Got a 3080 here and I'm so mad that this game chugs sometimes. My disappointment and satisfaction of this game can be represented by a sine wave though. I love the discovery and the peaceful vistas.
its not even optimized for xbox, i didnt get a "next gen" console to keep playing at 30fps like i have been the past 20 years, the screen physically hurts to look at when looking around
I am sadly upgrading just for starfield because I do want to play it now but I. The long run I’m hoping it is a good choice I’m also upgrading from a Rx 570 8gb which even running in 720 crashes constantly
I’m not sure what your internet situation is like but if it’s fast enough I’d recommend GeForce now ultimate. It’s the only way I’ve been able to play with great visuals as well as buttery smooth performance. I’ve never been a fan of cloud gaming but it seems like as long as your internet is good it’s definitely an option for those who don’t want to upgrade their pc just for one or two games. I can finally smoothly walk around Akila and I couldn’t be happier about it lol
It’s a bummer cause I upgraded my PC to an intel i7 12th gen and 3080ti cause I play a lot of Fallout 4 & 76 and those games run marginally better with intel cpus and Nvidia Cards compared to AMD, and now without the DLSS mod my game doesn’t hit 60 on even the most empty of planets. WITH DLSS my game runs like 90 almost everywhere except the big cities, that’s like a 30% performance increase. Very strange.
It's optimized for amd because it's optimized for console. Xbox uses a AMD APU (GPU and CPU combo). They need to make sure it runs the best it can on Xbox and AMD PC users are just getting a bonus.
He is not wrong though, Todd Howard statement that you should get a next gen PC is wrong you just need a current gen PC and yet for the majority of the PC Master Race Up until April, Nvidia's GTX 1060 was the most commonly used graphics card on Steam, it was surpassed by Nvidia's RTX 3060. While Steam's hardware survey cannot be seen as a totally accurate account of the hardware of all Steam it does show that the majority of PC master race play on antiquated and rather cheap graphic cards. Also no PC hardrive comes close to quick resume, be it the newest and most expensive NVMe.2 or whatever else is on the market for PC gaming, switching between 5 games instantaneously has become transcendent. I'll stick with my 450 pound "crap box" (series X) and GamePass Ultimate for 10 pounds a month. FYI I was one of those idiots who wasted 3 grand for a 2080ti gaming rig during lock down and the series X in the only purchase I don't regret:P Peace!
I tried it on a 5800X3D with a 6950XT and the perfomance was very bad and i would still call my system highend or very close to highend! Thx to steam I could refund it ;D
I've been enjoying No Man's Sky on PSVR2 a lot. It's more of a 'make your own adeventure' game, so no AAA story or dialogue, unfortunately. But if space exploration is what you want, it definitely is a great game.
Just bought a 6700XT for $320, it includes a copy of Starfield. So I guess part of the AMD partnership was to give Starfield away with their cards to help sales? Seems weird they gave me a free new game worth over 20% of the price of the video card.
How about this, Todd? I’ll upgrade my PC when you do a complete source code rebuild and modern upgrade to your decrepit Creation Engine. Sound good? Now let’s shake on it. 🤝
Ugh. I get that PC gamers don't want to upgrade their PC, but they also act like they don't have to anymore? As if games will only get smaller and have more lax requirements. Todd is definitely right about one thing, upgrade your PC.
I don't wanna be that guy either. But I built an AMD PC, and it's not the highest end PC. Starfield runs at 60fps on native 1440p ultra with fsr turned off. And I'm running it with a bunch of mods. Edit: Wait nvm. Just checked fps counter. It's 80fps in cities, 90 to 120fps everywhere else
I am at the point where im never buying a bgs game again. F4 was okay but a downgrade. f76 was utter trash and criminal with its intent. starfield is empty, repetitive, and monotonous. and at the core of it all is a director, Todd, who has blatantly and REPEATEDLY lied to his customers and fan base with not only what is in the game, but the quality and performance of it. I am def not excited for ES6.
I wonder what resolution Bruce is playing at, Ive heard the most issues for 4090's are in the 1440, 4k camp over 1080p. Either that or the god Todd Howard himself blessed Bruce. Either are possible.
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Wait...... Todd Howard lies? No way! This just works with 16 times the detail on those mountains you can walk to.
300 endings!
God Howard more like Satan Howard :D
Fully dynamic loading screens
@@rewpertcone8243🤣🤣🤣🤣chill
Well what would you expect from an oil tycoon that likes to scream "HOOOOOOOWEEE" before every sentence
Starfild is definitely an oddity because
On one hand, I knew for years this game would turn out exactly like it did. Be honest. If you have any understanding of how games are made and you are up to date with what the creation engine is, this was the only result that was possible. So I feel a lot of validation for all the problems/ hate Starfiled is getting.
But also, I'm really enjoying the game and can not wait for the survival mode to come out. The need to buy and actually re fuel space ships is gonna be fun/hell.
With the amount of loading screens? Yeah, I for one wouldn't have fun at all. I mean sure, it takes but a few seconds, yet it's annoying as fuck.
@@bigzed7908Pretty much the same amount of loading screens as Skyrim.
@@ClearlyHunter you are comparing a game that came out in 2011 to something that came out yesterday.
@@ClearlyHunter I honestly did wish they would figure out a way to make the engine load interior cells seamlessly, I guess since most games now can do it is what makes it a little jarring. You can tell that they said you will need a SSD at this point for loading times, but I don't think it was optimized at all for faster SSDs like nVME like most new PCs and the PS5 has but more SATA SSDs which are vastly faster then a traditional HDD but not even close to the top speed of even a Gen 4 nVME SSD. (SATA SSD is 600MBs where a Gen 4 nVME SSD is 5GBs a second). How long this game was in dev it makes sense a bit, even 3 years ago nVME was pretty expensive. It is MUCH cheaper now, even compared to SATA SSDs. Things like the well boasted DirectStorage from Microsoft are absent.
@@arcadeportal32 Indeed, and I bet the engine doesn't do the developers any favors.
My 10700kf and my 3060ti have been running the game great. I haven't had any issues. Sure, I get frame drops in cities but it levels out and isnt stuttery at all. I also haven't had any glitches aside from the very annoying but also fun phased time glitch.
On my planet, we have advanced computer technology as yet unknown to Earthlings, which runs Starfield on 120 fps.
IGN: The game is fun but not without issues, 7 out of 10
The internet: HOW F'KING DARE YOU! AHHHH!!!!!!!
2 weeks later
The internet: Man, this game has issues
Unfortunate downside of pc gaming. Not all games "for pc" will work on all PCs.
@@ExNihil0 yuuuup.
Nonsense. Use proper hardware. I've never, ever had issues like you imply. But then I'm not a derp with 10 year old parts.
@@insertnamehere4419 correct. That's the point I'm making. Pc gaming is great, expect when you have 1 or 2 outdated components and cant run the newest games.
@@ExNihil0So Larian don't care then? It doesn't have FSR2.
@@ricoxkiller Do you expect to play a Bluray in a VHS machine? In other news water is wet
You misunderstood what he said. He said you might have to get a better pc cause it’s a next gen game. He wasn’t saying your pc is bad
They flat out confirmed the game is getting stability updates as well, so regardless of what he meant, he was lying to make it sound cutting edge.
"Never needs sharpening", and all that.
Love how Todd knows that the fans will keep smelling his farts and telling them it's their fault and not theirs. 👍 keep supporting a company that knows their fans/customers will eat anything they put out.
Reminds me of the guy from blizzard: "Do you guys not have phones??"
CEO's are so cringey and corporate. Slippery freaks.
To be fair, if we want revolutionary game with the best graphics and great gameplay. We need great PC to begin with. Can't blame them for stating facts that heavy games requires great pc.
Isn't that most AAA studios at this point. They churn out crap, people love to pre-order, buy in alpha, buy it immediately and make it a hit before it's even released. Then the AAA studio just ignores the game for awhile and makes a shitload of money. Love it!
If you hate Bethesda games, your opinion on games in general is disregarded automatically, because you just don't know what a good game is. Don't blame me. I didn't make the rules and I'm not the one when decided to hate good games.
@@OrkDiktator I've stop supporting Bethesda after Skyrim. When a multi million dollar company can't even be bothered to put an FoV slider. Fix bugs and issues that have been fixed by modders throughout the decades, why should I give standing ovations to that kind of company. Plus I have self respect , we all deserve better and even you. These companies know that fans will just be happy with the bare minimum. So hey I'm not the one that spends money for a half baked product.
Listen the game ran on my RTX 2060 just fine on medium but I had audio glitches all the time. Couldn't fit it on my ssd so it was on my 4 TB HDD. I bit the bullet and invested in a 2TB 7100 speed ssd for 100 bucks. Swapped it out and moved the game on there and now it runs like a dream and loading is instant. So a small upgrade fixed my audio issues and it's something I've been wanting to do for a while anyway.
Creation Engine has had longstanding audio issues on hard drives and peripheral drives. There's a good reason for Skyrim AE runtime being recommended for installation on your primary drive outside of the OS folders. Works a treat for any and all audio issues. Helped reduce stutters in FO4 for me as well.
And no, not even Todd Howard himself knows why this works. It just does. It just... works
It was great that the ads I got on this video were for AMD. Glad to see you guys doing stuff together again. Was missing you on FH.
idk if you've seen but they've launched a new channel aside from this one that seems more edited letsplay content called "BroughtYouThisThing" it's a collab between them & Kassam G. So far it seems like a lot of the comedy of the first couple videos is pretending your watching a vid from 2012 (like thematically) but then they namedrop some contemporary news headline without context or elaboration then they laugh a little and then go back to talking about nu-metal/hotpockets or something. So it's this weird arc where the channel exists in multiple timelines lol, it's kinda jarring but nice to see a return to edited gaming videos. (Also not sure if this is the actual artistic intent for the channel but it's how I've interpreted the concept)
Hey bruce! Same thing here! Have an i7 6700k n a 3060ti n at 60 fps all high settings 67% scale. I get absolutely no stutter. Do get the occasional frame drop to 40 fps. But doesnt stutter to get there like you said. Heard another channel say its cache based bottleneck in the cpu causing stutter? Maybe your ring ratio is high like mine is? (set it above standard, same as with the core clock)
I followed Hardware Unboxed video about optimizing the game and its running fine on a 4 year old PC with AMD cpu and Nvidia gpu, not getting very high fps (around 40 in cities and 50ish everywhere else) while playing at 1440p without dynamic resolution, that transforms the game into a blob, and most settings at medium/high.
i had crazy stutters but when I reinstalled the game on my ssd everything started working great, have not seen one stutter since. 1660ti with i7 10th gen. running on medium
1660S+i7-9700KF here, running medium just fine as well. Only complaint is no "real" fullscreen option so I have to turn my desktop resolution down from 1440 to 1080 manually each time I start the game, but pretty much no complaints on the visuals at that resolution.
Same for me as Bruce. I'm on a i9-9900ks and 3080Ti. Mostly 60-100 fps and around 50-55 in New Atlantis.
I'm running a 7700x cpu with a RX 6800xt gpu and having no problems with starfield. Bethesda has gone a long way to make FSR2 run smoothly in this game, and even without upscaling I'm getting 80+ FPS on the release patch. Is it really that bad for Nvidia users?
This is the only game I've ever played that is struggling on GeForce now priority servers. 20fps at best on low settings. Only people who play for ultimate which uses 4080s are able to play right now and that is unheard of, TODD.
Tons of people leading up to the game were saying "The modders will fix the game." "It'll be better once modders can play with it." I don't buy a game hoping that the modding community can make better/fix a game i paid full price for. That's a pretty dumb reason to buy/defend a game/company.
The game is just poorly optimized but what can you expect from Bethesda? Give it a year and modders will make the game something Bethesda never could, competent.
I'm playing it on a Ryzen 5 5600x, 32 gigs of ram, with an rtx 3060. Have it installed on a 1tb m.2. I've had no problems so far. I'm about 3 hours in.
13:48
I think that's the majority of the problem. Fps drops on high end GPU even on medium.
Ryzen 7 and RTX 3060 TI on medium setting cannot get 60 FPS on New Atlantis and populated area.
Game is running ok on my Ryzen 7 5800H and RTX 3060 on high settings, framerate just tanks in New Atlantis to 30-40ish lol, but pretty much enjoying the game immensely.
Nvidia update yesterday+DLSS mod fixed most of my performance issues on my RTX 2070. Prior to that, if I was on low, medium, high, ultra, doesn't matter. Always 20-35fps. Unoptimized as ever.
nvidia driver update did nothing for 2000 series, all it did was enable rebar which is only for 3000+ series.
@@EUTOPIATTV thats great and all, but as an owner of one, who has been playing starfield since it came out running like dogshit, and then suddenly running way better yesterday after installing that driver update, ill go with what i said and not some random TTV on the internet. :)
@@T0asty- Check the driver patch notes r/nvidia subreddit. It's literally in the patch notes, more than likely you're seeing better performance because you recompiled your shaders. Also outlined in the comments in the new driver update thread on the official sub.
But glad your game is running better after recompiling your shader cache; maybe I'll try the same by deleting the file.
Have you checked to see if the new starfield update messed up that mod? I was talking to someone who was unable to launch it till they disabled the DLSS mod they had installed
@@Clubbythaseal The one I used has had no issues. DLSS 3.5 dll file and the mod "Starfield Upscaler" from nexus.
I think there was an update for the mod but thats about it? Might be wrong.
Once I downloaded the mod to downgrade the textures to 1080p, it runs great and im having fun. Why they launched the game with ONLY max fidelity textures with no ability to drop quality to save VRAM is baffling. On top of that, the games default configuration is HORRIBLY unoptimal for almost all systems. If you arent familiar with editing INI files for Bethesda games, I recommend you grab somebodies elses optimized configurations. On older hardware you can get up to a 40% bump in performance if your GPU is your throttle. All of that on top of a clunky UI, this sure is another Bethesda game. That said, I am loving my time in the game now that it runs well. The story is engaging and settlements are super fun to build up, with side content everywhere you look. I will definately drop a lot of time on this one.
I too am running the game with out a hitch on an Intel i9 and 40 series card. Ive been blessed. I was also one of the very few people who didn't encounter a single bug while playing cyberpunk at release and had great performance on my 1080 gaming eignat the time. I specifically upgraded my pc quite a bit in anticipation for Starfield
it is truly hard to find someone who asked
Starfield is not more optimized for consoles than PC. It runs at 30 FPS, medium settings at 1440p upscaled to 4k using FSR (67% resolution scale) on Xbox. they didn't forget to optimize it for PC any more than they forgot to optimize it for Xbox.
That car analogy was perfect
I hate to be that guy but as an AMD only PC player since 2019, welcome to our world 😅
My RTX 4070 Nvidia boosts Starfield performance with GPU driver new update, is working really well for me, and the new mod DLSS 3.5 is incredible running fps90 up to 115..
Todd should not have said it, but the reality is that he is partially correct, the reality of PC gaming is that your killer rig from 3+ years ago is going to become less and less relevant for each game release. The Steam forums show people complaining for example, that their 1080TI cant run the game at 4k @60fps. I have a mid-range rig, and I play at 1440p - I was fully expecting to have to upgrade before hitting the play button, but the game runs smooth with no stutters, hitches for me - does it get 60 FPS everywhere? - heck no - but It is is smooth with no obvious latency - the difference is I don't spend my time with the FPS counter on screen taunting me that I am not getting 60+ FPS.
I still have to upgrade my rig (3 years old now), but I don't have to rush to do it. Oh also - I have never had a single crash in game - a record I think for a Bethesda title for me..
Love the game, and don't really look for opinions positive or negative from all the "Creators" dining out on Starfield content - I don't need anyone's validation to enjoy the game...
to touch on what Bruce said: I've got a 3070ti and intel i9 (so not as good as Bruce's) and mine has literally run without a graphical hitch. not one.
Runs and looks great on my laptop with a 3060, my PC 5700xt with Ryzen 9 3900 12core looks sad, but what gets me is when I stream it from XCloud it looks like total ass what gets me soured. However weather on my PC or laptop weather its on Ultra or low settings the speed doesn't change. I don't know what exactly is going on under the hood I wish there were more options that get under the hood to see what is getting turned on and off in the background.
Honestly I just want a mod that skips the process of having to go to the world map, select a system, go back in the map menu, select a planet, then go back in the menu a 3rd time and select the landing zone. I think the actual game is fun, but all the getting from A to B is way too tedious.
Have you tried opening your scanner while in the cockpit? It won't take away your entire need for the map but it'll cut the amount down significantly, gives a tiny bit more immersion
I'm trying to think of a scenario where you need to "go back" in the map menu. Are you referring to unexplored systems since you can't choose a specific destination until you've landed in the system to "map" it? Seems kinda minor if so.
@@OOZ662 Unless I just haven't figured it out, when you fast travel to a quest that requires you to change systems you have to go in the menu to jump. Then again to jump to the planet and then one more time to where you want to land.
I could be doing this wrong too, is there a better way?
@@TheWtfanime sit in your cockpit in space, press the scanner button, travel direct
I have an intel cpu and rtx 3090 and was running on ultra and also really wasn't seeing performance issues. The all my hardware for my new build literally came out this year except the gpu.
Now bugs? Oh yeah. I've seen those typical Bethesda bugs of clipping, phasing into peoples faces, NPCs breaking, etc.
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Right now I can’t climb ladders because every time I go into 3rd person my head is gone and I’m just posing with my arms forward, weirdest bug I’ve gotten so far, it makes my characters neck look like a lady’s happy place so that’s kinda hot though
If you're running intel/nvidia hardware and on steam try changing your power plan to high performance. fixed my stutter, for some reason Starfield doesn't put load on the CPU without the extra nudge.
I love how everybody still wants to use the words “next gen”.
Just curious, is the background music in your video from the Spyro reignited trilogy's 3rd game, skateboarding level?
for context about "upgrading a PC" going to a upper tier 40 series card is different than trying to do a more budgeted upgrade from you're 10 year old laptop to a desktop with a 3060. runs BG3 and benchmarks seem fine for pretty much every modern game I'm interested in except starfield
I've heard that the whole AMD-Bethesda conspiring against Nvidia and Intel wasn't the case. I do know that the youtube channel Moores law is dead talked about it.
AMD didn't respond to prominent youtubers like GamersNexus and Hardware Unboxed when they questioned them about witholding DLSS from Starfield sometime back. Only last week AMD said they aren't witholding. So clearly they went in and amended the contracts. Now, DLSS is coming to Starfield. It recently came to Jedi Survivor too post the contract amendments.
Moore law guy is a bonafide AMD fanatic, so he shouldn't be your source of truth for anything AMD related.
DLSS is an Nvidia technology and you have to enter into an agreement to license it. I'm inclined to put this squarely at the feet of Nvidia being dicks.
@@spacechannelfiverno Nvidia wants dlss in all large games
idk. I have a mid level pc but brand hardware. But even at that it's just the aero 4060 ti 8gb, 5600x, 48gb ram. It's running fine on 1080 and 1440. I also load everything I'm currently playing on the nvme ssd drive. I'm not counting frames but it's never crashed out. There was one time as I loaded into a galaxy there was a ship doing the spinning thing but other than that there has been nothing that has broken my immersion or made me not want to play.
I have a 6700XT GPU and 3700X CPU but only get ~50FPS on medium @1080p.
Although, I'm having so much fun, I don't care about the frame rate. If you like Bethesda games and if you like sci-fi, you will love Starfield.
I did get the game for "free" with the 6700XT. So it might make me a little biased.
Come on people I think we should all just take a moment and go "Bruce you nailed it" for nearly a year before launch you prophesised the extent to which this game would launch.
AMD Clearly said they did not block Nvidia from doing anything.
I'm like Bruce, I haven't had stutter issues with Starfield. I'm running a Ryzen 9 5900X and an RTX 3080 12 GB model and it runs fine on high and ultra. For stream I run it from my laptop that has a Ryzen 7 4800H and RTX 2060 on medium through a capture card and again no issues.
I feel bad cuz I'm having an awesome time playing but all my friends are having a rough go of it.
I had an annoying issue where it wouldn't launch at all via PC Game Pass (that's like the one place it SHOULD work lol) and after much messing around, could not figure it out. Just no clue.
Just came back to No Man's Sky after 4 years. Hooked. And I haven't even got to anything new. But I do want to play starfield. But prob after a few updates.
Damn guess i've gotta get a threadripper and a 4090 then if my i9 and 4080 aint good enough for Todd
Been playing on high settings with a 3060 and its been running fine
I have a 4080 with a 12th Gen i7 averaging 85 fps. I'm sure the game is still poorly optimized but people who have these cards are lucky.
Jedi Survivor had the same problem with the intel cores :3
I've noticed with all of the verbage used by people at AMD, BGS and XB; it all has seemed very specific and I'm left wondering if that now that the game is out, the AMD deal now allows the game to be optimised for other platforms other than what run AMD chipsets.
I mean, the Intel disparity. Yikes.
Now we should see much better performance coming. Watch this space.
46% faster line made my blood boil. Got a 3080 here and I'm so mad that this game chugs sometimes. My disappointment and satisfaction of this game can be represented by a sine wave though. I love the discovery and the peaceful vistas.
its not even optimized for xbox, i didnt get a "next gen" console to keep playing at 30fps like i have been the past 20 years, the screen physically hurts to look at when looking around
Guys! His advice works! All I had to do was sell my house and get a new rig!
I am sadly upgrading just for starfield because I do want to play it now but I. The long run I’m hoping it is a good choice I’m also upgrading from a Rx 570 8gb which even running in 720 crashes constantly
I’m not sure what your internet situation is like but if it’s fast enough I’d recommend GeForce now ultimate. It’s the only way I’ve been able to play with great visuals as well as buttery smooth performance. I’ve never been a fan of cloud gaming but it seems like as long as your internet is good it’s definitely an option for those who don’t want to upgrade their pc just for one or two games. I can finally smoothly walk around Akila and I couldn’t be happier about it lol
The game is mostly CPU bound. But even still. Needing a pseudo workstation tier (and priced) GPU to play it around 4k 60fps is a bit much.
Can I upgrade my series X? Because 30 FPS is giving me motion sickness (end it looks like crap)
I have 2 PCs one with a Ryzen 9 7950X and the other one with an i9 13900K... with my RX 7900 XTX the Intel one ran at higher frame rate
You used the same gpu in both?
It’s a bummer cause I upgraded my PC to an intel i7 12th gen and 3080ti cause I play a lot of Fallout 4 & 76 and those games run marginally better with intel cpus and Nvidia Cards compared to AMD, and now without the DLSS mod my game doesn’t hit 60 on even the most empty of planets.
WITH DLSS my game runs like 90 almost everywhere except the big cities, that’s like a 30% performance increase. Very strange.
Starfield can't hold 60 at lowest settings on my 1070, and i am thus retracting my 30 fps comment that was featured
today they announced that they will add DLSS for starfield in an upcoming update...............hopefully in the next update
It's optimized for amd because it's optimized for console. Xbox uses a AMD APU (GPU and CPU combo).
They need to make sure it runs the best it can on Xbox and AMD PC users are just getting a bonus.
He is not wrong though, Todd Howard statement that you should get a next gen PC is wrong you just need a current gen PC and yet for the majority of the PC Master Race Up until April, Nvidia's GTX 1060 was the most commonly used graphics card on Steam, it was surpassed by Nvidia's RTX 3060. While Steam's hardware survey cannot be seen as a totally accurate account of the hardware of all Steam it does show that the majority of PC master race play on antiquated and rather cheap graphic cards. Also no PC hardrive comes close to quick resume, be it the newest and most expensive NVMe.2 or whatever else is on the market for PC gaming, switching between 5 games instantaneously has become transcendent. I'll stick with my 450 pound "crap box" (series X) and GamePass Ultimate for 10 pounds a month. FYI I was one of those idiots who wasted 3 grand for a 2080ti gaming rig during lock down and the series X in the only purchase I don't regret:P
Peace!
The longer I live, the more I LOATHE Todd Howard -.-
Was able to play the game fine before downloading the latest patch. Now it crashes literally every 5 Minutes…
Spent £2k for new PC parts and Nividia recommends my settings to low D:
Ty for all the gaming news both good and bad.
I tried it on a 5800X3D with a 6950XT and the perfomance was very bad and i would still call my system highend or very close to highend! Thx to steam I could refund it ;D
it just works should be a ingame trait.
Still waiting on Skyrim 2: The Toddening
I've been enjoying No Man's Sky on PSVR2 a lot. It's more of a 'make your own adeventure' game, so no AAA story or dialogue, unfortunately. But if space exploration is what you want, it definitely is a great game.
Need a new focus on performance for apis in gaming
I have a 1080ti and i can't get stafield lock at 30fps even with the setting at low and resolution at 720p. SURE TODD the game is well optimized lol.
my 4060 ti does run at like 97% so that is kinda worrisome. But the gpu temps are lower than the cpu. lol
Just bought a 6700XT for $320, it includes a copy of Starfield. So I guess part of the AMD partnership was to give Starfield away with their cards to help sales? Seems weird they gave me a free new game worth over 20% of the price of the video card.
Can't wait to play Starfield: Heroes of Lithis
So if I want to make a gaming pc for Starfield, I have to use AMD? Is Nvidia considered the better brand?
How about this, Todd?
I’ll upgrade my PC when you do a complete source code rebuild and modern upgrade to your decrepit Creation Engine.
Sound good? Now let’s shake on it. 🤝
AMD said that they have no issue with nvidia dlss support on Starfield and if Bethesda had asked they would have said no problem.
I haven’t had any issues at all on my 4070
Appreciated.
Well now I guess we know what it means to “prioritise” in AMD sponsored game. Optimisation for nvidia and intel will be after launch
Ugh. I get that PC gamers don't want to upgrade their PC, but they also act like they don't have to anymore? As if games will only get smaller and have more lax requirements. Todd is definitely right about one thing, upgrade your PC.
I’m looking forward to playing the ultimate edition on my PS5 for $39.99
There are tons of reports of the game crashing on Xbox too.
Xbox has an amd gpu… I don’t feel the least bad about my 7800x3d/4090 not getting 200 fps
I don't wanna be that guy either. But I built an AMD PC, and it's not the highest end PC. Starfield runs at 60fps on native 1440p ultra with fsr turned off. And I'm running it with a bunch of mods.
Edit: Wait nvm. Just checked fps counter. It's 80fps in cities, 90 to 120fps everywhere else
No FOV slider? That actually sucks
You convinced me to subscribe in under 30 seconds🤣 #FireTodd
Jokes on Todd I already upgraded for this exact reason. Never mind that my PC needed an upgrade its clearly all because Todd told me to
I am at the point where im never buying a bgs game again. F4 was okay but a downgrade. f76 was utter trash and criminal with its intent. starfield is empty, repetitive, and monotonous. and at the core of it all is a director, Todd, who has blatantly and REPEATEDLY lied to his customers and fan base with not only what is in the game, but the quality and performance of it. I am def not excited for ES6.
Game looks ok on low. Needed an SSD.
I'm running an AMD setup, and I have to keep it set to medium settings to stay above 60 fps at 1080p Ultrawide. Dude, Cyberpunk 2077 ran better
Xbox is built with an AMD chip. They have to prioritize the consoles. No FOV etc etc.
I wonder what resolution Bruce is playing at, Ive heard the most issues for 4090's are in the 1440, 4k camp over 1080p. Either that or the god Todd Howard himself blessed Bruce. Either are possible.
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I have an old amd am4 8 core cpu and a 3050 and have been getting a capped 60fps at ultra and always wondered wtf people were complaining about lol
You aren't getting capped 60fps on ultra on that crap. Cool story though.