New Porsche Taycan 70-MPH Highway Range Test! Larger Battery, More Efficient Motor, & Crazy Charging
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
- Kyle is in Germany with the newly refreshed Porsche Taycan! He is driving a 4S Sport Turismo this week and this is the first of many testing videos to come with it. Here's how far it can go on a charge at highway speed!
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10 minutes of charging = over 2 hours of driving at highway speed 😳 ⚡️
can't wait for this tech to trickle down. Ideally with other cell chemistry tho.
Tesla is suspiciously quite when it comes to next gen charging performance or battery / range upgrades to the existing MY and 3
@@Allride_already available in China.
I get 8 hours of highway driving from a 45-second charge in my *_electric vehicle_* (2016 Prius c Two).
I think 280-320 miles is the sweet spot for range. Over 320 is too much, too big of a battery that you don't need 95% of the time, meaning your daily drive. And besides, after 2 hrs of driving on the highway, 3 hrs max, I'm ready for a break.
@@777Outrigger While I agree with too much weight being pulled around, if the battery pack energy density increases, it's a great addition. New Taycan battery pack weighs a tiny bit less that old generation while the capacity has increased a decent amount.
I'd say a combination of higher density batteries and a better charging curve will greatly improve the long road trip experience of most EVs. And of course the charging network needs to keep up and improve. To non EV owners the mandatory 15 minute stop every 90 minutes (on open roads in Texas where everyone goes 85-90 mph) is not justifiable.
_"let me know who wants to see a range test at top speed"_
That is like saying: _"any of the kids want an ice cream?"_
Probably around 120 km / 75 miles... 260 km/h / 160 mph is no joke in terms of driving resistances 😁
Probably more range than the petrol version at top speed 😂
Battery life at full speed would be about ten minutes. At top speed this will get you about 30 miles.
@@thedubwhisperer2157 it's actually ~25 minutes, as you don't use the full power at its limited top speed.
Though Porsche is not on my list of possible cars, it is great to see Porsche building such a capable, beautiful, feature phat EV. Thanks for doing the video.
Hey man, atleast u admit that it may not be in ur budget to afford a porsche while accepting its probably the king when it comes too EV tech while being an actual luxury great looking sedan when insane performance. Most people in the comments (mainly averaje joe tesla owners) will come and try to justify all the reason they drive a tesla and not a porsche when in reality they just can't afford it.
@@user-my4xu4gf1z your comment was great until your ignorant generalization. Not everyone that can afford something want to spend the money.
@@user-my4xu4gf1z Don't give me too much "credit". Were I younger and rich I might go for one of the Porsche EVs over a Tesla, especially if I could get the "station wagon" Porsche here in the States, but as a retiree with limited means who values performance and beauty (think Porsche) but usually prefers comfort, utility, cool software and a superb charging network even moreso, I'm very happy with my Model Y LR AWD, and were I to develop an overwhelming urge for more performance and style in a new car within my budget I'd go for a new Model 3 Performance over any other car out there. I do not, however, think everyone else should necessarily follow my lead. I can certainly believe others would for good reasons prefer Porsches, BMWs, Hyundais, or even some of the Chinese EVs, but I'm firmly in the Tesla camp at this time.
315 miles at 70mph is great, it is a dream car. The sedan version with the smaller tires might have come in at around 350 miles!
I'd like to know how far a Taycans AWD with the large battery pack and most efficient tire/wheel package can do at 70mph gps verified both directions. I think about 350 miles or so as well. I'd also like to know the range at 75mph. If it's more than 300 that's quite good. Even in the winter or worst conditions it should do at least 200 miles on a full charge since it has the heat pump now.
Holy F that headlamps are bad ass!!!!! 24:46
Range test at max speed would be sick. Please do it!
Just a tip: The A71 north of Erfurt is a stretch of road which is basically always free. You can hammer it down pretty much all day long :D
Dead screen = no difference to superchargers 😇
Great to have you back in Germany.
What is supercharger ? You mean dodge charger ?
@@IvanNedostal I believe they are referring to Tesla Superchargers, which don't have screens on them.
O my!!Thank you so much Kyle, i’ve been waiting for a highway range test in the new taycan for a loooong time. As always you are the saviour
The screens on these old Tritium units are dead really often. Doesn't matter too much though, since the charger works just fine.
Been waiting for this video!
Excellent video and review. I'm very impressed with the incredible headlights. They really light up the road.
Wow, this really is such a high quality and high-tech EV. I love the Sport Turismo, it is the best looking version of the Taycan. Worth every penny!
I agree on style and practicality but the price? The last models price dropped like a stone. If I’d be interested in this car I’d wait a year or two and then get a deal.
@@10secondsrule I'd even wait another 5 or 6 years if change isn't necessary. Just way too much happening right now.
All Evs depreciate. The best thing to do is lease or buy and sell within 2 years. The higher end models like the taycan turbo s and gt won't see depreciation for awhile though.
Totally want to see a top speed range test!
Wow such dedication. Nice job!
Love showing your expected charging speed while driving. Hope more manufacturers adopt this.
Volkswagen also has it on their new ID vehicles.
Cool! Don’t forget that your route included quite some climbing (I know it quite well…😅) and you only get a faction back on the opposite direction. 500 Km is quite decent, I would say. Flat route would certainly show you the 550 your were heading for. But you won’t find it where you are right now. Would rather be 400km north… have fun this week, Kyle!
I love the effort that goes into the Videos traveling to Germany for some Test Amazing
I need that 10% challenge asap. It’s the most relevant test you do IMO
Dead screens is a Tritium problem. Ionity is chaning all the screens (even the working ones). Don't know how they will proceed now with Trinity's situation.
This is probably the biggest generational upgrade I've ever seen. I've seen the shoddy engineering under the hood of the 1. gen Taycan and the range and power were pretty bad for the money. This is such a huge upgrade that I don't even need to see under the hood to know they did some major work there.
Nice this.
When are you doing the same for the Macan EV?
Impressive!
Great video!
Could you conduct a top speed range test? Additionally, it would be helpful to include scenarios more typical for European drivers, such as tests at 120, 130 km/h, or even 150 km/h for German roads. This would provide a more realistic assessment for Europe, where driving speeds usually exceed 70 mph.
Great video and love to see you in Germany again.
Of course we want to see a range test at top speed. That should be fun.
It was a good call not to run down the last percent by driving around the parking lot. The parking lot is a one way so you can´t go back to the chargers, at least not legally. It can be kind of dangerous too, as people don´t expect traffic from the other direction and at night some tend to drive through there a little faster.
Can you do a range test at 130 km/h (81 mph) with battery going from 100 til 1 %?
"I also had a Silver Turbo Cross Turismo".
This is the most first-world line I heard this year.
Transparent - Light can come through, visibility is clear (windows).
Translucent - Light can come through, visibility is obscured (sheer fabric, frosted glass).
Opaque - No light can come through, visibility is fully blocked (solid metal, wood, etc.).
It gets confusing because one can talk about a materials "transparency" or "translucency" or even "opacity" in more-or-less the same manner.
But there you go...
Impressed! Minus the sticker shock
I love the concept of the coast setting. I have often thought that allowing the car to go a few miles faster than set would have a big impact on efficiency.
What a beautiful car ❤
Another great video Kyle, hopefully while you are in Europe your Volvo contacts can lend you a Volvo Ex 30 to test. I am dying to hear your thoughts on that little pocket rocket 🚀
I want to see a Cannonball Run with you and Drew if you're not sick of each other from The Ocean to Ocean Race.
the new Taycan should be able to totally destroy the previous record if the CCS network holds up
3.2 kWh/mile is awesome for this car. My Kia ev6 GT just gives less then 2.7 for the same conditions.
Cheers Kyle
What a spec! We need that in NA!
Hi Kyle, love your channels. Since you are in Germany and into charging infrastructure, it might be worth the Time to have a look at the new Curb Chargers that are being tested in Cologne Right now. Might be a Game changer for urban areas and other use cases. If you need more details, let me know.
Thank you for another great Taycan video. Just recently changed from a 2021 Taycan Cross Turismo to a 2024 Tesla Model Y, but still have a heart for the Taycan. Great cars for sure.
As a model Y owner considering a Taycan, why did you go Taycan > Y ?
@@DavidBrown-bs7gg Mainly for 3 reasons: 1. Electrify America charging infrastructure getting continuously
worse over the 2.5 years I owned the Taycan. 2. Porsche dealer issues and lack of customer service in the PNW of the US. Not expecting better from Tesla but my Taycan was more than three times as expensive as my new Model Y Performance and for that amount of money I would expect better. 3. Speaking of money: my used Taycan despite the crazy depreciation was worth more than double the Model Y, allowing me to buy my newly 16 years old driver in the family a decent car soon and have some $ left.
After driving Porsche for over 25 years, I still think the Taycan was an amazing car, maybe one of the best. The way it drives, feels, looks, is fantastic and I still can’t stop looking when I see them especially the sport and cross Turismo. Mine was highly customized and the finishes and options were amazing. Considering the complete EV experience after 2 months Tesla, I feel the Taycan is the better car and a piece of art. The Tesla is the better EV especially when considering the supercharger experience during road trips. It never takes me more than 5-6 seconds for the Tesla to start charging. With EA it took sometimes up to 2 minutes before the car would even start charging and often I had a faulty charger or degraded charging speeds or charger wait times. The model Y also seems an incredible value. I also like to have my phone as a key (vs. still requiring a key nob) and the overall software technology, speed and quality is way more advanced with the Tesla. Just my thoughts. If you get a Taycan: have lots of fun!
@@DavidBrown-bs7ggI mean it's pretty obvious dude. Look at the interior and exterior of a model y thats shapped like a blob vs this beautiful sedan. This has a game changing new active air suspension, chassis, handling, braking,speed, actual luxury interior, charging, range, etc.. its a freakn PORSCHE vs a tesla. Entirely different class of car.
@@user-my4xu4gf1z No, the guy went from a Taycan to a Tesla and I wondered why
I like that new software and dash display. I wonder if the older Taycans can get that update.
I like how you pronounce EnBW correctly XD
24:13 That's so awesome! I hope we get this technology here in the US at some point.
Awesome car now has a decent range. Good for Porsche and the people who buys these beauties. Love the Sport Turismo body style. I hope Porsche follows through and brings other Sports Turismo versions in addition to the GTS.
How do those Hankook ion evo tires feel & sound? I couldn’t tell from the video if those are the All-Season or Summers.
24:30 and that is the reason why premium manufacturers ask such high prices. Absolute control and sublimity at 160 mph.
Sport tourismo 😍😍😍😍
I hope they bring the PCM updates to the Gen 1 Taycan. It's most likely a pipe dream. But one can always hope. Doing a road trip in my CT4 from Norway to Switzerland in a couple of weeks.
those adaptive matrix headlights look awesome. really want that in north america.
70 miles on German Autobahn is ridiculous for a Porsche ,100 miles/h for Porsche would be normal
I’d like to see an around-town range test like you do with PHEVs
Megaaaaa! What a machine
You could try to hit 100 mph average over a long distance. With second driver, of course.
200 kph/124 mph is around optimal with this one I would say. Drive for 1.5 hours, charge for 10 minutes, drive an hour. 10 minutes, hour ~124 mph, etc.
Awesome video. Thanks Kyle. Can you do the Hummer EV SUV next? No one has done a range test in it yet!
I just now realised that highway speed (70mph) for you guys in the US is range mode for us here in Europe. I really struggle to drive 120kmh, I usually do 140kmh. I must say that all these advanced ADAS really make it easier to drive slower 😅.
24:34 This is nutty. You don't sound locked in enough to be honest. Too calm. This is nutty.
Yes please to a top speed range test!
2:48 home sweet home 😅
I am so interested to see this test with Macan 4.
Im going to berlin this summer first time in Europe. What is the quickest path from berlin to Stuttgart? Is there unrestricted autobahn all the way there?
The way my bank account is setup!
Kyle: I have a quick question for you since I also live in Colorado. Is the regen capability the same in this new Taycan as it is in the 1st gen Taycan? I have a '22 Taycan CT4s in Ice Grey, and seeing this range test video with the new charging speeds will probably make me upgrade to a '25 CT4s, but I will stick with the '20's since Pirelli makes a winter tire to fit the Taycan 20's. .
Good content…👍
The efficiency numbers are not that impressive but the charging technology is just phenomenal.
I wonder how this would do on a cannonball, how would it compare to the old Taycan run you did, how about the lucid run.
Kyle you should do a review of that animal free interior. Looks really nice, just unsure of the center portion of the seat!
6:58 - "But they always go farther than what Porsche says..." historically, Porsche has always under-rated their performance numbers. That has followed over to their EV's (unlike some other manufacturers).
The charging C rate may actually be lower on the new Taycan vs the old one, and using that to keep flat at top rate longer.
With the efficiency having improved, you get to keep really high average speeds including charging.
Range test at high speeds would be interesting!
20 inch wheels look also pretty good and cost around 2000€ less (21 = 4200€). the 19 inch in the black/silver colour do look pretty OK also, only the standard all silver 19 inch don't look as good
Beautiful and stylish car compared to the bricks on wheels we build in the US ❤
The Model S and Lucid Air exist 🤷🏽♂️
@@samthecar I get what you're saying, but wagons really should make a comeback in the US. I prefer them so much more than crossovers and hatchbacks.
as a current 4s CT owner i cant justify the massive difference in price to get the new one. here where i live the dealer is actually selling a lot of the used stock as only two people have ordered the new car which here is running 20k more expensive like for like.
(9:26) … it’s tinted but transparent normally… the electrochromic glass can be made translucent but NOT opaque (unfortunately; I’d like the option of cutting out all light from the glass roof, if not getting an all-metal roof to start with)… you can still see the sun’s disk through the translucent (most-blocked) glass in the roof
@out of spec reciews:
Hi, why you wouldn't recommend the rear seat entertainment?
We want the high speed video!👌
What is the google map distance for the same itinerary ? A verification of the car odometer would be useful. Especially given Tesla indiscretions in that domain.
good weather, on a brand new battery, with a perfectly ionity charger.
I drive the older Taycan Turbo and I can say that all these conditions most of the time dont meet. In the later software update even Porsche suggested to reduce from 270kw to 200kw, to save the life of the battery. So why should I hope that with the face lift that would change? So personally, I lost all faith in the Porsche promises (but still love the car despite that issue, since I charge over night at home and drive long distances very very rarely).
Has Porsche arrived with active ride where Formula 1 was in 1992?
I wonder how much energy that saps. Some companies claim to extract energy from suspension, but I'm not sure that works while cruising...
Going only 70 mph on the German Autobahn makes you a „Verkehrshinternis“ traffic obstacle! The minimum speed for a Porsche on the Autobahn is at least 100 mph! 😅
Endless Stau these days
Surprisingly it's the Porsche guys who are pretty chill on the Autobahn most of the time 😂
I would totally get the 19" wheels. Better ride, way more range.
Bjorn Nyland got 580 km from the old 4S on 19" with a constant 90 kph at GPS. The new one ought to give over 700 km.
The car looks pretty wicked.A range test at top speed would be nice to see.
39:50 - forget about max speed tests on german highways cause you would face high fines incl. prison if things would go wrong as I had described in my other comment.
Since about 2018 or so we have a racer § and your ideas you had anounced here are public and a violation of the german street law as you would become a racer in any case something would go wrong. In case of an accidenct the crashed car and your phone will be confiscated and everything analyzed cause the fines are terribly high since pedestrians and other car drivers had been killed. If you announce a high speed ride you are screwed if you end in a german court room cause all your footage will be analyzed and what not. Foreigners tend to forget to check it out before arrival but the fines will be the same, the rules have become different and you are on the edge once the prosecutor starts.
Top speed run comming in
When the first gen Taycan came out, I was worried about the range and I thought that Porsche would be too focused on performance. With this generation, I cannot believe that they achieved it all. The possibilities with EVs are truly limitless and since the drivetrain is modular (engine being smaller and comprising of multiple separate units and the possibilities of splitting the battery pack), a lot more interesting vehicles will come out soon.
Also, I think Porsche is one of the most successful EV cars from Germany. Mercedes EQs mostly flopped, BMW's i series is generally just the same ICE car but with batteries, so sub-par integration and Audi's e-trons are just worse Porsches. This may even be one of the most successful adaptations to EVs from a generally ICE-focused manufacturer, except Cadillac Lyriq or Hyundai/Kia/Genesis EVs.
Where’s the charging video you mentioned? 🤔
Love how serious there taking EVs, damn, I wish I could get 1
The anxiety in Kyles voice at 31:40 and on
Would 10-80% test show anything different than 0-100% charging test?
4S great model to test. Would be interested in your thought on comparison vs the new Panamera for a road tripper.
Can a car be charging while on with the Air conditioning on as well?
Yes
It’s too bad you don’t have someone else there with you. You could do a side by side “old” Taycan vs new, range and charging performance tests. I’d also love to see Turbo vs GT. Lastly, I want to see a video with me behind the wheel 😅
“Coming in on fumes.” The irony 😂
The Autobahn 👍yes do a test
I have a 2020 Taycan 4S with 86k miles. I don’t think I could ever do a 70mph range test. That’s very hard for me to keep a Porsche at 70 😅
But yeah, it drives like nothing else I’ve tried. I have driven a Lucid and a Model S.
If you're still in Europe pls do a range test at 140 kmh.
Thats what a lot of people drive in Europe (since they tend to slightly go over the allowed speed of, in most countries, 130 kmh)
God0amnn that’s a beautiful car
All the screens of the old Tritium chargers Ionity is using are failing all over the country. They even put stickers on all of them, explaining what to do if the screen is broken.
Vmax range test!
Stuttgart notorious for horrific traffic.
Very cool but $207,000 as configured. Granted that's the Turbo version and with a bunch of options but options I think everyone would want anyway. Crazy prices.
On the one hand: really impressive car.
On the other: Configured with the basic necessities for a car like this it is 150k Euro's. (that doesn't include the fancy suspension).
I was expecting a bit better for the range. My BMW i5 edrive40 will almost get the same range, but charges quite a bit slower.
For the consumption: I was hoping for a bit less. 194Wh/km should be for a 120km/h and not for 112km/h. My BMW does around 170Wh/km at 112km/h.
just me or is the audio at the start panned hard to the left?