I recently left with our family of 7. I offered for "the work" when I was 17, and as an advocate & someone with meeting in our home, I'm happy to help with questions. 4th generation
Hello. I have been watching a couple months now. The stories you’ve shared have touched me as a Christian. Your attitudes and goals in these videos are so pure and kind. I admire Sam’s tenderness. I seriously adore him and can only imagine the internal battles of his life and finding a good wife like you is probably an idea he never could’ve idealized. You guys keep doing what you’re doing. God bless your family
Brave lady. In any Church religion secrecy and just moving on abusers to different locations never works. These religions should be forced to report to the police. In the Catholic religion the Mormon Religion the Evangelical etc those in power should be held accountable for hiding these abusers. Cc
This lady is describing the way that my husband and I were raised. Both of our dads were pastors. They were associated with the Free Will Baptist. I had to wear dresses or skirts, even in school physical education classes I had to wear a long denim skirt and I was made so much fun of. Once I got to high school I had my neighbor bring me some gym shorts and she would take them home with her and wash them. There were some churches that were stricter than others. We could wear a little jewelry like one ring or a simple necklace. Having your ears pierced would send you straight to hell. No make up. Some of the strictest churches women couldn’t even wear any type of bow in their hair, couldn’t even roll their hair and using hair spray was a sin. I could go on and on. There’s still some of these churches that are still living like that now. Also a TV was called a one eyed monster. My husband and I got married on a Friday and went the first thing Saturday morning and bought a TV…lol. Later we started going back to church and went back to living that strict. However when our daughter started school and she was such a tomboy, I talked to my husband about letting her wear pants to school because she definitely wasn’t modest in a dress when she was standing on her head in a school play 😂😂 We started studying the Bible and realized that we were following Man’s traditions and there wasn’t any Bible to support that belief. I could go on and on about these churches, but I was raised thinking God was sitting up there waiting to zap me straight to hell if I even had a wrong thought. I’m so thankful that He is a God of love.
While that is sad, and what you outlined is based on legalism. And is a far stretch to compare to the sexual abuse she is speaking of. How do I know, I was raised FW Baptist.
@ I in no way was comparing it to the SA that she was describing, I was talking about the other parts, which as the years have passed and I’ve kept up with a lot of friends that I was raised in church with, and several girls unfortunately did suffer SA from preachers, deacons and other church leaders. The way my husband and I were raised was very different than the other Free Will Baptists in our area. I made the statement years ago when we starting coming out from under such dictation that it felt like we were trying to leave a cult, and this was in the early 90’s.
I have learned so much watching you both. It's amazing how so many religious organizations operate very similar in their teaching. Shocked to hear so many abuse,control,guilt. Horrible. Have you ever had anyone from the Jehovah Witnesses on your show? Thank you for your honesty and helping so many.💕
Thank you Sheri for this story! So courageous! This poor woman has been through so much! Praying for continued healing over her life❤🙏🙏🙏 I was born into this very secretive sect!! I thought I was God’s chosen child within a very legalistic system. I was always confused, lonely and depressed. But never held it to the fact I was in a cult. I was in complete ignorance. It took me till I was 30 and in the pandemic to come out completely of the deception. I had a moment in my room where I felt like I couldn’t handle life anymore. I was frantic and crying and something was blocking me from even praying. So I yelled “God I need you to clear my mind, I can’t take this anymore!” And in that moment my mind was crystal clear. I was shocked but felt immediately inclined to pray repenting and asking God to help me. A flooding of peace came over me and all the demons attacking me and were over my life felt like they had been banished!! In that moment I knew I hadn’t known God, but now I DID! After that, God cleaned up my life of sin, helped me see that I was in fact in a cult, and showed me that Jesus Christ was indeed God and that he died once and for all sin and all I needed to do was place my full trust in him! Praise God! I got baptized not long after and my life has been far from perfect but I have JESUS my PERFECT PEACE!!!🤍🕊️🙏
While Sheri has been out for years there are also numerous people who have left in the last two years who have more recent connection to current events, like the person above who said there are overseers and super overseers. Many of us who have left call them uberseers. There are a handful around the world who are over a country or a part of a country (like east and west in the USA). And they are over overseers of smaller areas. It is a very corrupt system from the time they adopted the Living Witness doctrine and Exclusivity. You should see if you can get Cheri Kropp-Ehrig to do an interview. She wrote "Preserving the Truth" which came out around the same time as Bruergate and was very influential in our decision to leave after almost 68 years. Cheri's book was researched for 30 years and she has source documents and first person interviews to back up everything she reveals in that book. You should get yourself a copy 😅f you haven't. I remember one of the original "workers" turned Eastern US overseer from my childhood (grew up in PA where he had his "headquarters). Learning about his knowledge of the founder and involvement in wresting the power from him and hiding the founder (lying by omission) was a huge influence on our decision to leave, along with the CSA. And some of the beliefs like denying the Trinity, not teaching the doctrine of grace and denying the deity of Christ are in total opposition to mainstream Christianity. However, numbers are dwindling, workers are leaving, fields are getting larger and meetings are getting smaller. There were a couple of mass exoduses in the past, in certain areas, whereas right now it's worldwide as people are realizing what they are in is not of God. And then there are the ones who cling to the system and refuse to become informed. The indoctrination is insidious and real. Thanks for making this info available through your interviews.
I am from the UK & have subscribed & find your channel very interesting & I think this channel is so important, it gets the truth out. I hope with all my heart more of your family reach out to you Sam. Can I ask how is the brother you went on a missionary with & the brother you left the FLDS with - hoping that they are both happy in the paths they are on.
It still amazes me how similar doctrine and lingo are in all the high controlle groups, ex-Jehovah Witness here and so many things are exactly what I was taught.
Regarding the organization: overseers are very much in contact with the intent to have uniformity across the world, although the uniformity is not always accomplished. They have secret overseers meetings regularly. They fly all over the world taking part in various yearly conventions where they meet and discuss policy and doctrine. An overseer has control over a section of a large country (a state or several states) or maybe a small country like Switzerland. In addition to numerous overseers around the world there are several super overseers which oversee continents or larger parts of the world. Elders are subject to the local field workers. Field workers are subject to their overseer. Overseers are subject to the super overseer. It is a very controlled top down structure. Unfortunately many presenters of various news casts and pod cast are not aware of this.
My mom had lots of worker's pictures in her home. they had a wall of honor with like 6 group pictures. I used to laugh when visiting they got a better wall for their photos than me n my sister who were on the wall nearest to the garage-lol. (we had left as teens so were apostates, I guess... we weren't shunned though and when mom passed we had a workers funeral for her cause it was her wish. I let the friends have all the workers pictures.... don't know what they did with them lol
What an extremely interesting vlog, thank you for sharing. I hope I didn’t miss it, however, how do people even find the church? Do they have a recruitment program? This is more confusing to me than the FLDS and I was very confused about the FLDS😅. Thank you for helping me to learn bit by bit about the FLDS instead of in an overwhelming way🥰
Hello, born n raised 4th generation ex 2x2 here. The answer to your question is the workers (ministry) and the friends (members) believe that if you are praying earnestly to be shown the “real truth of god” you will come across a professing friend or worker and they will invite you to a gospel mtg (held in a public building usually but sometimes also in a members home) held by the local workers in your area. There is no recruitment program -the friends and workers are just supposed stand out as a “peculiar people” and as such will be asked questions about their religious beliefs and why women wear skirts, or don’t cut/dye their hair, or don’t wear any jewelry besides a wedding ring, etc etc. Workers are also celibate ministers, travel in same sex pairs, and will only be allowed to get married if they leave “the work” ie. the ministry.
@blb2020 thank you so much! It actually clicked this time. Understanding the levels and then adding to it now, it makes perfect sense🤗. Thank you again🥰
They occasionally try to add new people via marriage or by isolating and love bombing vulnerable (often impoverished) people. But usually they just try to keep their current members from ever leaving. My great grandfather was targeted and recruited while in active addiction and his son and granddaughter were super loyal to the cult and went on to attempt recruiting multiple local families. Luckily all attempts failed.
There's quite a few 2x2's in Australia. The abuse there is being exposed as well. Long overdue but it's happening! I lived in Rockhampton QLD in the 90's. I LOVE Australia!
Sherry’s work has been heroic. Like Steve Rohs eventually became an elder, there are many ex-workers who had been involved in sexual abuse as workers, then later became elders and members in their area didn’t know about it, even though other workers often did know,
@@ursulaking4411 because they are in bondage to fear since they actually do believe that without meeting they're destined for hell for eternity, with no exceptions. You would never refuse the ministers because they have the power to remove you from the church and in essence, consign you to hell.
Guessing you've never been in such a situation. Yes, humans have some free will. But we are largely the result of our environments. And if you've been conditioned for decades to think/behave a certain way, you never stop and think "Wait... Something is off here" Kind of like a frog in boiling water. Or a country that devolves into dictatorship.
I really do appreciate these responses, and I am lucky I never experienced it, but still there is something in my mind that just doesn't get it. I understand that they have been conditioned to trust these people, but also they know from experience that some of them cannot be trusted. I am interested in understanding what exactly goes through their head when they leave their child in that situation anyway. "Oh, mine was a one time thing?" I really do want to understand.
@@ursulaking4411 It is a conundrum for sure. I am 4th generation, and we left a year ago. But, the brainwashing is very effective, when people are made to believe that if they leave this "way", they will go to hell. They are threatened to keep secrets quiet or they will be excommunicated, thus being cast to eternal damnation. After watching and hearing the lies they are telling about people who have been removed and those of us who have left because we are seeing what's really been going on since the inception of this religion, and it has caused some to have one leg out the door, but they are too terrified to take the final leap! Just a few of the crimes that I know about: stealing people's homes from them, to having people falsely incarcerated to keep them away, to abusing people in every way one can think of. Children have not just been sexually assaulted, many were also tortured at the same time and then threatened with silence "because we know where you live" (well, no duh! You were staying IN their home and snuck into their bedroom to do your nasty deeds after mom and dad were asleep) so the children were terrified, because they would come back and if they told it would be their fault that their mommy and daddy were going to hell, so we've had some commit suicide, and that's been lied about too to cover up what's honestly been going on. Absolutely one of the sickest religions on the face of the earth!!
Strangely Sherry seems to have forgotten Gospel meetings which are public meetings held constantly by workers for nonmembers as well as members with the intent to bring in new members. There is a constant desire to bring in new members. Unfortunately in recent years there is not much interest by nonmembers. One of the reasons it’s so widespread all over the world is because of intense evangelism all over the world, including communist countries. I’m surprised your guest does not understand this. But since the outreach is by local gospel meetings and not by other media the publicity is muted.
Gospel meetings have not been held constantly in any area where I have lived (both AL and TX). The workers are in preps for their own conventions or gone to other states for special meetings or on special meeting rounds in their own state for most of the year. Again, this has just been my experience. I am sure it might be different in other areas of the country. Also, we have been told that Taylor Wood told the overseers years ago to just focus on keeping the ones inside inside instead of focusing on finding the lost sheep.
One ex-worker spent many years frustrated that he was restricted from evangelizing. Various things hindered such as caring for an elderly co-worker or tending to projects on convention grounds.
32:37 an explanation could be that men convicted of these terrible crimes may have hit rock bottom harder and be more willing to respond rather than the Workers specifically seeking out such offenders for church membership
I'd never heard of the cult 2x2, however I have heard of The Way. My mother (born in 1914) became a very loyal follow the cult by Elizabeth Claire prophet, Church universal and triumphant. In the early 80's she moved with the core group of the cult to Emigrant MT. It was a very scary time for our family while they were building underground bunkers, purchasing illegal guns, and brainwashing their members to believe that the coast of California was going to fall into the ocean. When most of that balanced out, for my mom it was a great place to live and she was very happy. None of the rest of the family ever became a part of the cult nor did we believe any of its nonsense. The members that lived around my mom in Montana were such lovely people. Unfortunately like most colds it does pull in the haggard, forgotten and lost souls out there. My mom live there until she passed on 9/15/2001. Yes right after 9/11.
I also lived in a town in Western Montana, where there were a lot of the two by twos. Also remember that the white supremacist group that threatened the judge were down around Hamilton Montana.
@Sheri.Autrey oh you are a central girl. I grew up in a town called Stockton. Glad to see a real central girly! Sorry you went through what you did. I would say I'm surprised, but the central valley even when I grew up has always been more converstive and lot of weird stuff happened and when people heard about stuff it was shocking
@Sheri.Autrey they had meetings in Stockton? No, not that I know of. I grew up in the main mormon church. Oh fun to meet someone who knows the central valley and how unique it was to live there. I didn't know that was a thing. Before mormonism u know my parents tried other small and "big" church but not hit the mark and hearing some of the stuff... maybe we did and I didn't know. It is a unique place to grow up right? Hearing you and watch the doc made me do sad and knowing where you grew up makes me go woe it was close to me
It would be great to talk to someone only recently out of the group (a current member would be good but I don't think any would be willing LOL) to see what things are like there
I'm watching this lady for the first time, Also , i've never heard of this particular CUL T the 2 / 2.... My comment is I find Her such a Breath of fresh air, So to speak. She has great chrisma,... I was wondering if she'll be on any more of your podcast?... I just have to add this.. I know it's gonna sound silly, but for some uncanny reason. I'm wondering. Someone doesn't want heard too so to speak air Is there dirty laundry? In other words, I hope this lady stays safe. I know that's a peculiar thing to say but I just felt I had to say it for some silly reason, I guess.
Listened to the whole thing. Maybe I missed it... But why are they referred to as "2x2"? I caught why the group doesn't have a self assigned name, but I never caught why others call it 2x2
The guests audio is pretty bad occasionally. If you want you can send it to me, I may be able to improve it. I am an audio engineer and musician so have audio editing software 😊
I was raised in this church. Both my grandparents were workers until they married. Both both sets of my grandparents and my parents were in the truth. I had a wonderful childhood and my sister, and I often remarked that our happiest times were at convention and gospel meetings. I didn’t have any of the experience experiences that this speaker had. In fact, I am named after two workers. We always called it the truth. I had never heard 2 x 2 except in the scripture. I trusted the workers who came to convention. They were always some of the most precious people I’ve ever met. I’m sorry this guest speaker had the experience is that she had in the truth. Those certainly were not mine and were not those others that I know in this area.
just would like to point out, Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life..... I'm not sure how any one or any group can refer to themselves as "the truth". This a name that Jesus referred to himself as.
Thank you for exploring this “truth”! Born and raised a 2x2, left in 2023. No one is above the law. May justice for victims/survivors be delivered!
They are still trying to convert.
I was raised in this group too. The rwvelations of these last few years have literally broken my heart. Thank you for covering this on-going disaster.
I recently left with our family of 7. I offered for "the work" when I was 17, and as an advocate & someone with meeting in our home, I'm happy to help with questions. 4th generation
Hello. I have been watching a couple months now. The stories you’ve shared have touched me as a Christian. Your attitudes and goals in these videos are so pure and kind. I admire Sam’s tenderness. I seriously adore him and can only imagine the internal battles of his life and finding a good wife like you is probably an idea he never could’ve idealized. You guys keep doing what you’re doing. God bless your family
Thank you for exposing corruption! Great channel. You are all doing good work.
Thanks, @Sheri. 🙌🏻 Class of ‘86
Great Job to all 3 of you! Thank you for allowing a voice to those who have felt alone for years. This is a wonderful safe platform for all ❤
Thank you so much for continuing to expose the 2x2’s.
Brave lady. In any Church religion secrecy and just moving on abusers to different locations never works. These religions should be forced to report to the police. In the Catholic religion the Mormon Religion the Evangelical etc those in power should be held accountable for hiding these abusers. Cc
This lady is describing the way that my husband and I were raised. Both of our dads were pastors. They were associated with the Free Will Baptist. I had to wear dresses or skirts, even in school physical education classes I had to wear a long denim skirt and I was made so much fun of. Once I got to high school I had my neighbor bring me some gym shorts and she would take them home with her and wash them. There were some churches that were stricter than others. We could wear a little jewelry like one ring or a simple necklace. Having your ears pierced would send you straight to hell. No make up. Some of the strictest churches women couldn’t even wear any type of bow in their hair, couldn’t even roll their hair and using hair spray was a sin. I could go on and on. There’s still some of these churches that are still living like that now. Also a TV was called a one eyed monster. My husband and I got married on a Friday and went the first thing Saturday morning and bought a TV…lol. Later we started going back to church and went back to living that strict. However when our daughter started school and she was such a tomboy, I talked to my husband about letting her wear pants to school because she definitely wasn’t modest in a dress when she was standing on her head in a school play 😂😂
We started studying the Bible and realized that we were following Man’s traditions and there wasn’t any Bible to support that belief. I could go on and on about these churches, but I was raised thinking God was sitting up there waiting to zap me straight to hell if I even had a wrong thought. I’m so thankful that He is a God of love.
While that is sad, and what you outlined is based on legalism. And is a far stretch to compare to the sexual abuse she is speaking of. How do I know, I was raised FW Baptist.
@ I in no way was comparing it to the SA that she was describing, I was talking about the other parts, which as the years have passed and I’ve kept up with a lot of friends that I was raised in church with, and several girls unfortunately did suffer SA from preachers, deacons and other church leaders. The way my husband and I were raised was very different than the other Free Will Baptists in our area. I made the statement years ago when we starting coming out from under such dictation that it felt like we were trying to leave a cult, and this was in the early 90’s.
I have learned so much watching you both. It's amazing how so many religious organizations operate very similar in their teaching. Shocked to hear so many abuse,control,guilt. Horrible. Have you ever had anyone from the Jehovah Witnesses on your show? Thank you for your honesty and helping so many.💕
My heart goes out to all people who suffer the abuse of these cults in the name of Jesus. Thank you for sharing. Truth is lite in the dark.
Thank you Sheri for this story! So courageous! This poor woman has been through so much! Praying for continued healing over her life❤🙏🙏🙏
I was born into this very secretive sect!! I thought I was God’s chosen child within a very legalistic system. I was always confused, lonely and depressed. But never held it to the fact I was in a cult. I was in complete ignorance. It took me till I was 30 and in the pandemic to come out completely of the deception. I had a moment in my room where I felt like I couldn’t handle life anymore. I was frantic and crying and something was blocking me from even praying. So I yelled “God I need you to clear my mind, I can’t take this anymore!” And in that moment my mind was crystal clear. I was shocked but felt immediately inclined to pray repenting and asking God to help me. A flooding of peace came over me and all the demons attacking me and were over my life felt like they had been banished!! In that moment I knew I hadn’t known God, but now I DID! After that, God cleaned up my life of sin, helped me see that I was in fact in a cult, and showed me that Jesus Christ was indeed God and that he died once and for all sin and all I needed to do was place my full trust in him! Praise God! I got baptized not long after and my life has been far from perfect but I have JESUS my PERFECT PEACE!!!🤍🕊️🙏
Love your story of being born again to live in Christ and He in you.
@ thank you!! Glory to God! It’s such a personal thing between us and God 🥰💕✝️🙏
I knew you'd get a former member! Nice to hear more.
Well done you three. Very well said and speaking on topics that are so important to shine a light on.
While Sheri has been out for years there are also numerous people who have left in the last two years who have more recent connection to current events, like the person above who said there are overseers and super overseers. Many of us who have left call them uberseers. There are a handful around the world who are over a country or a part of a country (like east and west in the USA). And they are over overseers of smaller areas. It is a very corrupt system from the time they adopted the Living Witness doctrine and Exclusivity. You should see if you can get Cheri Kropp-Ehrig to do an interview. She wrote "Preserving the Truth" which came out around the same time as Bruergate and was very influential in our decision to leave after almost 68 years. Cheri's book was researched for 30 years and she has source documents and first person interviews to back up everything she reveals in that book. You should get yourself a copy 😅f you haven't. I remember one of the original "workers" turned Eastern US overseer from my childhood (grew up in PA where he had his "headquarters). Learning about his knowledge of the founder and involvement in wresting the power from him and hiding the founder (lying by omission) was a huge influence on our decision to leave, along with the CSA. And some of the beliefs like denying the Trinity, not teaching the doctrine of grace and denying the deity of Christ are in total opposition to mainstream Christianity. However, numbers are dwindling, workers are leaving, fields are getting larger and meetings are getting smaller. There were a couple of mass exoduses in the past, in certain areas, whereas right now it's worldwide as people are realizing what they are in is not of God. And then there are the ones who cling to the system and refuse to become informed. The indoctrination is insidious and real. Thanks for making this info available through your interviews.
I am from the UK & have subscribed & find your channel very interesting & I think this channel is so important, it gets the truth out. I hope with all my heart more of your family reach out to you Sam. Can I ask how is the brother you went on a missionary with & the brother you left the FLDS with - hoping that they are both happy in the paths they are on.
Thank you Sheri for sharing your story. You are so brave. ❤
You're welcome. Thank you for your kind words and support!
Love to Sherri what a great interview you've learned to be so strong. And thank you
It still amazes me how similar doctrine and lingo are in all the high controlle groups, ex-Jehovah Witness here and so many things are exactly what I was taught.
Regarding the organization: overseers are very much in contact with the intent to have uniformity across the world, although the uniformity is not always accomplished. They have secret overseers meetings regularly. They fly all over the world taking part in various yearly conventions where they meet and discuss policy and doctrine. An overseer has control over a section of a large country (a state or several states) or maybe a small country like Switzerland. In addition to numerous overseers around the world there are several super overseers which oversee continents or larger parts of the world. Elders are subject to the local field workers. Field workers are subject to their overseer. Overseers are subject to the super overseer. It is a very controlled top down structure. Unfortunately many presenters of various news casts and pod cast are not aware of this.
My FIL would be angry at me if I said they were Christian … it was so bizarre
Growing up in the religion I have found the church is different in different areas. But Sheri was still spot on.
Thank you for continuing your review/interviews of the 2x2 sect.
Wonderful interview 👏🏻
My mom had lots of worker's pictures in her home. they had a wall of honor with like 6 group pictures. I used to laugh when visiting they got a better wall for their photos than me n my sister who were on the wall nearest to the garage-lol. (we had left as teens so were apostates, I guess... we weren't shunned though and when mom passed we had a workers funeral for her cause it was her wish. I let the friends have all the workers pictures.... don't know what they did with them lol
WTF!!!! HUGS to Sheri! Great interview, but I HATE that it even had to happen. :(
Many members have left in the last 18 months . I’d love to see you talk to them
So interesting, no matter what religion, the same secrecy drives the evils.
Break the silence. Break the cycle.
Thanks!
Just subscribe hope you get to 100,000 soon. Love your channel very informative been watching on and off for a while . I been learning so much
Thank you! 😊
The worst abuse in the 2x2s that I've heard of are the Spurgeons in AL and FL with the abuse of foster kids. 😢
So interesting! How many secret secs are out there????
What an extremely interesting vlog, thank you for sharing. I hope I didn’t miss it, however, how do people even find the church? Do they have a recruitment program? This is more confusing to me than the FLDS and I was very confused about the FLDS😅. Thank you for helping me to learn bit by bit about the FLDS instead of in an overwhelming way🥰
Hello, born n raised 4th generation ex 2x2 here. The answer to your question is the workers (ministry) and the friends (members) believe that if you are praying earnestly to be shown the “real truth of god” you will come across a professing friend or worker and they will invite you to a gospel mtg (held in a public building usually but sometimes also in a members home) held by the local workers in your area. There is no recruitment program -the friends and workers are just supposed stand out as a “peculiar people” and as such will be asked questions about their religious beliefs and why women wear skirts, or don’t cut/dye their hair, or don’t wear any jewelry besides a wedding ring, etc etc. Workers are also celibate ministers, travel in same sex pairs, and will only be allowed to get married if they leave “the work” ie. the ministry.
No recruitment, they just try really hard to keep everyone in who was born in.
@blb2020 thank you so much! It actually clicked this time. Understanding the levels and then adding to it now, it makes perfect sense🤗. Thank you again🥰
@christacarver8427 Thank you😊
They occasionally try to add new people via marriage or by isolating and love bombing vulnerable (often impoverished) people. But usually they just try to keep their current members from ever leaving. My great grandfather was targeted and recruited while in active addiction and his son and granddaughter were super loyal to the cult and went on to attempt recruiting multiple local families. Luckily all attempts failed.
Finding this topic interesting. I’m in Australia and there’s a group in my town that seems to fit 2x2 description
There's quite a few 2x2's in Australia. The abuse there is being exposed as well. Long overdue but it's happening!
I lived in Rockhampton QLD in the 90's. I LOVE Australia!
The Truth will set the truth free
There will be be justice served on judgement day they can’t hide from the glorious Lord of all creation
Sherry’s work has been heroic. Like Steve Rohs eventually became an elder, there are many ex-workers who had been involved in sexual abuse as workers, then later became elders and members in their area didn’t know about it, even though other workers often did know,
Thank you for your kind words and support! It's absolutely horrific how many stories we've heard about perps that have been covered up for decades.
I don't understand the parents who experienced abuse themselves but still blindly trust people to be in their homes
@@ursulaking4411 because they are in bondage to fear since they actually do believe that without meeting they're destined for hell for eternity, with no exceptions. You would never refuse the ministers because they have the power to remove you from the church and in essence, consign you to hell.
Guessing you've never been in such a situation. Yes, humans have some free will. But we are largely the result of our environments. And if you've been conditioned for decades to think/behave a certain way, you never stop and think "Wait... Something is off here"
Kind of like a frog in boiling water. Or a country that devolves into dictatorship.
It's a called conditioning...
I'm very happy that you've clearly never experienced it. ❤
I really do appreciate these responses, and I am lucky I never experienced it, but still there is something in my mind that just doesn't get it. I understand that they have been conditioned to trust these people, but also they know from experience that some of them cannot be trusted. I am interested in understanding what exactly goes through their head when they leave their child in that situation anyway. "Oh, mine was a one time thing?" I really do want to understand.
@@ursulaking4411 It is a conundrum for sure. I am 4th generation, and we left a year ago. But, the brainwashing is very effective, when people are made to believe that if they leave this "way", they will go to hell. They are threatened to keep secrets quiet or they will be excommunicated, thus being cast to eternal damnation. After watching and hearing the lies they are telling about people who have been removed and those of us who have left because we are seeing what's really been going on since the inception of this religion, and it has caused some to have one leg out the door, but they are too terrified to take the final leap! Just a few of the crimes that I know about: stealing people's homes from them, to having people falsely incarcerated to keep them away, to abusing people in every way one can think of. Children have not just been sexually assaulted, many were also tortured at the same time and then threatened with silence "because we know where you live" (well, no duh! You were staying IN their home and snuck into their bedroom to do your nasty deeds after mom and dad were asleep) so the children were terrified, because they would come back and if they told it would be their fault that their mommy and daddy were going to hell, so we've had some commit suicide, and that's been lied about too to cover up what's honestly been going on. Absolutely one of the sickest religions on the face of the earth!!
Thank you for this important vlog! Was there any sort of accountability for reasons for the rules?
Cherry-picked verses were used, but it was all about control.
Religion is manmade rules.
Jesus is salvation. Not Jesus plus anything else.
Strangely Sherry seems to have forgotten Gospel meetings which are public meetings held constantly by workers for nonmembers as well as members with the intent to bring in new members. There is a constant desire to bring in new members. Unfortunately in recent years there is not much interest by nonmembers. One of the reasons it’s so widespread all over the world is because of intense evangelism all over the world, including communist countries. I’m surprised your guest does not understand this. But since the outreach is by local gospel meetings and not by other media the publicity is muted.
Evangelism in the midwest US up until about the late 80’s. Then, just “the friends” (members) were expected to recruit, basically.
Gospel meetings have not been held constantly in any area where I have lived (both AL and TX). The workers are in preps for their own conventions or gone to other states for special meetings or on special meeting rounds in their own state for most of the year. Again, this has just been my experience. I am sure it might be different in other areas of the country. Also, we have been told that Taylor Wood told the overseers years ago to just focus on keeping the ones inside inside instead of focusing on finding the lost sheep.
One ex-worker spent many years frustrated that he was restricted from evangelizing. Various things hindered such as caring for an elderly co-worker or tending to projects on convention grounds.
32:37 an explanation could be that men convicted of these terrible crimes may have hit rock bottom harder and be more willing to respond rather than the Workers specifically seeking out such offenders for church membership
I'd never heard of the cult 2x2, however I have heard of The Way. My mother (born in 1914) became a very loyal follow the cult by Elizabeth Claire prophet, Church universal and triumphant. In the early 80's she moved with the core group of the cult to Emigrant MT. It was a very scary time for our family while they were building underground bunkers, purchasing illegal guns, and brainwashing their members to believe that the coast of California was going to fall into the ocean. When most of that balanced out, for my mom it was a great place to live and she was very happy. None of the rest of the family ever became a part of the cult nor did we believe any of its nonsense. The members that lived around my mom in Montana were such lovely people. Unfortunately like most colds it does pull in the haggard, forgotten and lost souls out there. My mom live there until she passed on 9/15/2001. Yes right after 9/11.
I also lived in a town in Western Montana, where there were a lot of the two by twos. Also remember that the white supremacist group that threatened the judge were down around Hamilton Montana.
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Omg the NorCal central valley? If so I would LOVE to know where. I grew up south of Sacramento and we called it the central valley
I was in Tulare County. Visalia and Tulare is where we lived in the 80's
@Sheri.Autrey oh you are a central girl. I grew up in a town called Stockton. Glad to see a real central girly! Sorry you went through what you did. I would say I'm surprised, but the central valley even when I grew up has always been more converstive and lot of weird stuff happened and when people heard about stuff it was shocking
@@padfootdoggy We lived between Stockton and Linden in the early 70's. Did you go to meeting in Stockton?
@Sheri.Autrey they had meetings in Stockton? No, not that I know of. I grew up in the main mormon church. Oh fun to meet someone who knows the central valley and how unique it was to live there. I didn't know that was a thing. Before mormonism u know my parents tried other small and "big" church but not hit the mark and hearing some of the stuff... maybe we did and I didn't know. It is a unique place to grow up right? Hearing you and watch the doc made me do sad and knowing where you grew up makes me go woe it was close to me
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Have you all heard of
Gloriavale? I think it is in Canada and the documentary is on Netflix.
New Zealand
i think they have reacted to this series!
Thank you I will check
It would be great to talk to someone only recently out of the group (a current member would be good but I don't think any would be willing LOL) to see what things are like there
I'm watching this lady for the first time, Also , i've never heard of this particular CUL T the 2 / 2.... My comment is I find Her such a Breath of fresh air, So to speak. She has great chrisma,... I was wondering if she'll be on any more of your podcast?... I just have to add this.. I know it's gonna sound silly, but for some uncanny reason.
I'm wondering. Someone doesn't want heard too so to speak air Is there dirty laundry? In other words, I hope this lady stays safe. I know that's a peculiar thing to say but I just felt I had to say it for some silly reason, I guess.
Listened to the whole thing. Maybe I missed it... But why are they referred to as "2x2"?
I caught why the group doesn't have a self assigned name, but I never caught why others call it 2x2
It's because their "workers" who act as missionaries are known to walk in groups of 2 men and 2 women so people started calling them 2x2
The workers go out “two by two” and work in pairs which is a reference to how Jesus sent out apostles (the twelve and 72)
The guests audio is pretty bad occasionally. If you want you can send it to me, I may be able to improve it. I am an audio engineer and musician so have audio editing software 😊
Leaving a comment for the algorithm
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I would love to have you do an interview with someone from the 12 tribes of Isreal cult ie religion...
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I was raised in this church. Both my grandparents were workers until they married. Both both sets of my grandparents and my parents were in the truth. I had a wonderful childhood and my sister, and I often remarked that our happiest times were at convention and gospel meetings. I didn’t have any of the experience experiences that this speaker had. In fact, I am named after two workers. We always called it the truth. I had never heard 2 x 2 except in the scripture. I trusted the workers who came to convention. They were always some of the most precious people I’ve ever met. I’m sorry this guest speaker had the experience is that she had in the truth. Those certainly were not mine and were not those others that I know in this area.
just would like to point out, Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life..... I'm not sure how any one or any group can refer to themselves as "the truth". This a name that Jesus referred to himself as.
Abuse, cover-up, lies, financial crimes, etc.
Those things do not align with my core values. I was led to separate from such evil.
The overseers!
Sickening what they have known and not done! Abuse. Cover-ups, Lies, Deception, other abuse. Horrific.
Second commenter!