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Should these performances effect how we see Jordan?
Hell yeah Johnny it's hard for ppl to reconcile Jordan had bad bad moments. The difference like you said the team pulled thru
“I’ve missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I’ve lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I’ve been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I’ve failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.”
One of my favorite mj quotes. I share it with my production teams. I find it to be inspirational
MJ fans Know this commercial but the UA-camr said that we like to pretend that MJ never failed and was perfect at all times! I am like If u are a fan of MJ then you know MJ was not perfect and had a lot of failures. THe only people that think MJ was perfect are LBJ fans because they are constantly trying to prove he was not perfect.
Matter of fact the reason I became a Michael Jordan fan is that I saw him lose to the Detroit Piston in 1990 ecf. I Saw him struggling and still try to win the game even though it was over. MJ heart and determination is what made me become a fan not because he was always winning!
Have to turn this channel off for this. Click bait.
"tHaT MoMent RiGht ThErE MaDe mE tHe GrEaTeSt PlAyeR oF aLl-tIMe"
@@sonnywoods6846 one of the best takes ive ever seen on the goat debate
I think this really goes to show that everyone has bad games/underwhelming moments. Chris Bosh said after he saw Kobe training when he lost in the finals that Legends aren’t made through their successes, but how they rebound from their failures or something along those lines.
Jordan even stated something to that effect as well. Then there's that saying about failures are just steps towards success.
@@davidmartinez52420 it can be the case but unfortunately not always.
@@davidmartinez52420 We have to thank the Bad Boys Pistons and Larry Bird, who made MJ become who he is now. Larry for making MJ tough mentally and the Pistons made him tough physically
Doesn’t apply to LeBron ig
@@calebwilliams9198 bro how you bring LeBron into everything?
MJ is so underrated. He should be in the GOAT conversation.
Micheal Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen
84-85 38-44..First round exit
85-86. 30-52..First round exit
86-87. 40-42...First round exit
01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs
02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs
In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only eight NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate
Rick Barry (1975)
Bill Walton (1977)
Hakeem Olajuwon (1994)
Tim Duncan (2005) (2007)
Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010)
Steph Curry. (2015) (2022)
LeBron james (2016)
Kawhi Leonard (2019)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021)
As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Micheal Jordan isnt
LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals
In the year before Micheal Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were
83-84 bulls 27-55
84-85 bulls. 38-44
92-93 bulls 57-25
93-94 bulls 55-27
98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen
00-01 wizards 19-63
01-02 wizards. 37-45
02-03 wizards 37-45
03-04 wizards 25-57
02-03 cavaliers 17-65
03-04 cavaliers 35-47
09-10 cavaliers 61-21
10-11 cavaliers 19-63
09-10 heat. 47-35
10-11 heat 58-24
13-14 heat 54-28
14-15 heat 37-45
2013-14 cavaliers 33-49
2014-15 cavaliers 53-29
2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32
2018-19 cavaliers 19-63
2017-18 lakers. 35-47
2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day.
As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank.
Micheal Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter
Micheal Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck.
THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!!
I agree, nobody talks about this guy
Eh he’s alright, maybe one day he’ll be in that convo
Who the heck is that? Is he that one guy in that McDonalds commercial?
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 jj barea, jason terry , old Jason Kidd destroyed peak lebron in the finals and took the dub on him my goat never lost in that situation but your did
Jordan was great enough to admit when he failed and show his emotions when he failed and succeeded. It wasn’t all about his media profile and wallet. And he wasn’t afraid to fail. That’s what made him the greatest.
It was games like this that motivated MJ to do what he did. Without these moments, there IS no Legacy for MJ.
These games are very relevant as it only adds to his legend, there was a always bounce back (ex. 1993 ECF vs NY, 2/18 in game 3, 54 pts in game 4; 1996: Orlando getting swept and broken up weeks later).
So ultimately Nick Anderson was right, 23 needed to finish was 45 started. Great post!
This is only kinda true. He had a great bounce back game against the Knick’s but never did in the heat series, luckily he had just enough in each game to win. And the Orlando series - his bounce back games were In that series, he had 39 and 40 in the series that they lost( those games were just as good as his games in 96).. the reason the bulls swept the magic was not because my was no longer rusty but it’s because they picked up arguably the best rebounder and defender ever which helped neutralize grant and Shaq.. mj said after the 95 season that grant was the reason the bulls lost
Out of all these games I still don’t see 8 points in the finals. This the goat.
Who got 8 pts?
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson lbj
@@cloudstrif got it. Along 8pts He also finals of 14pts 15pts 17pts 17pts 17pts 18pts 19pts
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson 2011 finals game 4. No names
Can we PLEASE stop giving credence to a certain team-jumper - that is also under .500 in championship round -
as ever belonging 'in the GOAT' convo....
It's nothing more than the league and media always looking for 'the next' MJ to hype up. It's all it has ever been.
Jordan is still the Greatest. He always said he has missed more shots than he ever made. Point is he was never afraid to take the shot whether big or small. Everyone has had bad games but not everyone bounces back, MJ did. Nimitz this does not impact his legacy negatively on his Bulls days or his Wizards days. At least he owned up to his shortcomings I don't see alot of players doing that especially today. He would shake your hand win or lose. That is why MJ is Goat.
MJ had been very honest from the beginning up to the end of his career, he never said even once than he was perfect but in all his strives he shown that he can be the best, that's made him the GOAT 💯
Yet MJ fanboys always act like MJ has always been without flaws or failures. They ARE the toxic side of basketball
There is a reason most of these rare MJ no shows get lost as a footnote in history..
first, because they're just that, pretty rare. Everybody has an off night every now and then, but for MJ one of the many reasons that make him the greatest is he's arguably had the fewest and far in between playoff blunders. That's why although you can rarely find a bad playoff game from Jordan, you'll even more rarely find a bad series from Jordan. Dude averages 33-6-6 on 49% in his whole playoff career.
Second, and perhaps more importantly, outside of the 95 ecsf series against the Magic, he won all of these series that were mentioned, and arguably dominated in most of them when looking at the totality of the series, despite one bad game. So, of course the one bad game will get lost as a footnote when they win the series, and Jordan for the most part played well or dominated for most of the series. Which is related to the first point.
For example, some of the series that were mentioned in the video like 89 ecsf against Knicks he averaged 36-9-8 on 55% shooting. 92 ecsf against the Knicks 31-6-4 on 48%. Hell, even the only series he lost in 95 series against the Magic, he averaged 31-7-4 on 48%.
I will say though if there is one series (out of 37 playoff series he's ever played) where I could say he had a "bad" series relative to his standards is the 96 finals against the Sonics. 27-5-4 on 42 fg%. But again, at the end of the day, no one can count this against him or his legacy because 1) he won and 2) although it was not up to his standards, he was still the best player on the court in that series.
And that Sonics defense really was something else. They looked like there were 6 instead of 5 guys defending at times.
@@tech-no-logictech9743 they put all their focus on stopping Jordan - when you have the glove plus Great double teams, it will slow down the greatest of players.
It was Also Scotties worst Finals Appearance in shooting.. so that has to say something about how good Seattle was..
@@davidhutson2846 Actuall if you look at Fg% in that era it's very often that when Jordan's % was low, it was low overall across both teams.
@@tech-no-logictech9743 oh no doubt.. and in 97 vs Utah, The Bulls were a +4 in total points.. 98 if u take away that 40 point shellacking, The Bulls were only a +5..
I never said MJ was perfect..
All I ever say is.. he's the GREATEST OF ALL TIME 🐐
Yeah I am wondering why people are so bent on trying to prove MJ wasn't perfect when no MJ fan has ever said this. Matter of fact MJ made a commercially about how many times he has failed throughout his NBA career and how those failures Push him to try even harder and succeed. The only player I know that people literally act like is Perfect is LEbron james. I hate when his fans try to push what they think about him onto MJ fans
@@sonnywoods6846 It's because Jordan fans are so quick to point out Lebron's fault, and the Jordan fans I've seen do act like he is perfect.
Everyone says MJ is perfect all the time mate
@@gggyy7104 well.. MJ does set the curve. 100 outta 100.
☝🏽 This is facts, and no, setting the curve doesn't require perfection. It just requires being the Best to Ever do it. 🐐
@@KaineTremaine Everybody always calls him perfect when he isn’t. Why? Because MJ fans are stupid
I don't think these games are inconsequential, but they also don't negatively impact his legacy either. This just proves that Jordan has mortal moments, and that's fine. How he took all these failures and used them as fuel to drive his success is unmatched. I'd like to see a video on what Jordan did the in the games immediately following these(where it applies).
The Bulls lost the first 3 games of the 1991 season. Michael Jordan never had a 3-game losing streak in Chicago again.
An incredible 626 games (including playoffs) without dropping 3 in a row.
That's all you have to know about MJ and his drive.
@@Torres9MZ I think the next closest player's streak like that isn't even half of what Jordan's is, but I could be wrong.
@@davidmartinez52420 That's also correct man. He's followed by Stephen Curry, who recorded 314 games, 312 less than MJ.
In 1989 playoffs after Game 2 loss against the Knicks, Jordan scored 40 points. The 1995 Playoff defeat to Magic was quickly avenged just a year after via a 4-0 series sweep.
I also as Jordan fan knew his failures. I don't see him as god but a role model to overcoming trials and tribulations in life.
The fact that Jordan worse games is still some players best game .this guy was still getting double digits
Yea taking 20-30 shots, plus the fts he got, stop it, no one’s best game is 20 points on 30 shots cuz no one else would be allowed to shoot it that much
@@alecboulton3537 kd has had some games recently that were pretty terrible. Kobe had some rough games to. The difference is most players don't have the confidence or trust to get back into rhythm without getting pulled
@@alecboulton3537 exactly
This is the stuff Bayless likes to Skip on in the Jordan debates
I see what you did there
😂😂😂
The video unintentionally added to MJ’s GOAT case.
This is a prime example of why you should never take drugs
These are moments in history we need to remember. It's easy to look at the highlights and forget MJ was still human and had off nights. We spend too much mythologizing players from the past and imo it does a disservice to them as human beings. The struggle is what makes them real to me.
Very well said!
If you were able to make a 7 min video about MJ's not clutch moments imagine how long the LeBron video would be lol....
LeBron's choke job in the last 58 seconds of the Ray Allen Game before the legacy-saving bailout 3 would be 7 minutes alone.
Hilarious and true
@@thsu8 facts
5 min considering 2 min was ad promo lol
@@kvbvl7285 very true LOL
This shows that not even the GOAT can take winning for granted in the NBA. The willpower and mental toughness to come back from such lackluster performances is one of the things that made MJ the GOAT 🐐. This also shows that the league was better than we remembered and that if it wasn't for MJ, the 90s would have had many different champions.
It also reminds what I try to tell people, outside of when Jordan was on the Bulls a lot of NBA games were just ugly and not fun to watch. I enjoyed watching them, especially as a Suns fan, and I loved watching those low scoring Knicks and Pacers games but ratings were a lot worse when Jordan didn't play. Jordan's presence helped cover up a lot of ugly basketball at the time but there were still some fun teams and great athletes to watch.
The GOAT is just a human. You prove the point. Good work Johnny!!
No one pretends it never happened.... We know it did. That's why this video is just 5 mins because it's so rare.
People love to ignore how Jordan wasn't very efficient in the second half of his career. They just see the 6 rings and that's all that matters
You see jordan averages in the series you will see incredible numbers. You will see that he usually recovered after bad games. But against the Sonics in 96 I believe Jordan was emotional about Father's Day and it affected his game, even though this game was not in the video sample. After the match Jordan cried profusely due to the symbolism of winning the title that day. Also, I remember Jordan's not-so-good matches, but he won in the final moments due to his willpower.
Mj finna take this vid concept personally and 500/500 in the clutch now
don’t let uncut hoops see this 😂😂 this should be a series!!
yea I like UnCut for the most part, but him in his fans really ride Jordan's meat sometimes🤣
@@rahultalkssports1404 I used to like him. Now I hate his GUTS. He always tries to take down LeBron and doesn’t use context and he keeps on ranting about NBA today and its defense. Let’s also not forget when he said Jordan would never get exposed by Benedict as if LeBron didn’t get injured mid way through the game and still almost outscored Benedict (don’t know his last name)
@@legendarywiimaster yeah I use to like a lot but when he started doing a lot of the stuff you mentioned I started liking him less. To his credit he does give lebron credit every once in a while but he’s definitely kinda annoying sometimes.
@@rahultalkssports1404 he does but for every video he makes praising LeBron he makes 5 “exposed” videos and why he’ll never be the GOAT
@@legendarywiimaster agreed. There's also nothing wrong with preferring the 80s and 90s playstyle but I hate when he leaves out context and tries spreading false narrative about the modern NBA.
The main takeaway from this is that Jordan also had a great team that allowed him to have off nights and still win. Jordan fans are not Bulls fans. They like to pretend the 1993-94 season never happened where the Bulls was a 55-win team lead by Scottie Pippen who was an MVP candidate.
I’m glad you post this. People act like Jordan was always perfect. It shows that any player can have a bad game
No one says he was perfect....except in the Finals
@@mingw2304 1996 n 1998 lots of bricks finals
@@jessiegomez8209 Bro 1998 Game 6, Jordan had 45 of the Bulls 87 pts...that's literally carrying
Any player can have a bad game.. but.. only one player can be the GOAT 🐐
@@jessiegomez8209 96 finals maybe but 98 finals he scored the highest percentage of a teams points in finals history. The game had slowed down by 98 and defense was physical. He score 38% or his teams points and his true shooting was a little above the bulls and jazz average for the series.
Imagine if social media existed back then to broadcast and replay his failures over and over again to millions of people everyday. Luckily for him his failures get swept under the rug.
The number 1 in your list against magic in 1995 was indeed rust. That playoff would be his highest turnovers per game in his career. He actually played well in terms of scoring but he was sloppy with the ball the whole playoff.
Also Jordan uncharacteristically missed shots that he used to make during that series.
@@jordansoviet23 that’s true. It was very obvious Jordan still had some rust. He also tried to play a lot more like he did before his retirement which was driving to the hoop or pull up mid range shots. The next year is when he became the greatest post playing guard ever. He could still drive the hoop by was a touch slower compared to 5 yes earlier but he developed an unstoppable post game.
When can we get the 3-5 hour video of when LeBron wasn't clutch?
LeBron is literally one of the most clutch players in league history but keep listing to Skip Bayless
@@legendarywiimaster That is true Lebron is actually probably top 3-5 all time in clutch performances and moments
LeBron was struggling on Super Teams going 6-7 games vs a terrible Eastern conference.. (worst Eastern conference ever 2006-2020)
@@KaineTremaine took 08 Celtics to 7 by himself, went to 7 twice in 2018 with literal ymca players, and to 7 by the Paul George pacers cuz they had a good series. Ur ignorance of context or blatant disregard of it is disgusting
@@legendarywiimaster No other superstar has ever come close to choking four times in the last minute of an elimination game like LeBron in the Ray Allen Game. Even his friend Choke Paul couldn't dream of doing that.
Well, this just proves that he was not a GOD, but the fact that we need to cherry pick couple of games here and there where MJ didn't perform well is amazing on itself. Everyone has a bad night once in a while, but it doesn't override the fact that MJ actually overperformed a lot when it mattered.
If they were the reason they lost the series then yes. However, if they were not then it's good to know. All it shows is despite his failures he still was able to rise above them. Makes him even more great. Invincibility is not as inspiring as rising above human frailty.
This is awesome, no one shows Michael Jordan's bad games, couldn't win for 6 years, everybody wants to put down Kobe, but Jordan was even worse at losing than Kobe.
Great content. To me lows are important when discussing the greatest players. It gives perspective on their highs and how they responded. It also highlights how difficult the path to the finals were for the bulls as most of the best teams were in there owm conference making each finals appearance more special. If these games drop mjs status for someone I'd hate to see how they judge other greats
Everybody in this life is a mixed bag of victories and failures. The goal is to have a victory column that far outweighs the failures.
One loss and one line "Number 45 is not number 23." I am positive that if these 2 lite a fire in MJ so strong that he would need 3 more rings to put out.
I mean...he wasn't lying. 45 was no 23
Only 2 of the mentioned games were from series where the Bulls didn't win the championship, so I don't know how this would affect the legacy of the GOAT
Nice breakdown of the Goat’s lows.
Everyone has a bad game here and there. It's impossible to have a great game every single night no matter who you are. What impresses me about MJ is that he's never had a really bad series. He's either had good, great or amazing series but never a bad one. Don't know if any other player can say that.
Bill Russell is probably the only other one but yeah, every other great player has at least had one series where they just weren't good.
“…And I took this video personally. You wanna go ahead and say I’m not clutch? OK, Fine. So when I met with Jonny Arnett, I was going to bust his ass and give him 60.”
I can play ball, but lets be real…. MJ’s dropping A LOT more than 60 on me 🤣😭
Everyone is not exempted from bad games. What is important is the entirety outcome. You can also add when a kid named Abdul Rahim from the Hawks scorched the Bulls with a type of modern play, High pick and roll. Down by 20 but almost won. Then the next time they met, they slaughtered the Hawks and we have never heard from Abdul again. Point is, it is these failures that drove the passion to win.
Everyone has weaknesses and the GOAT has some too. Not everyone is perfect or should even think they are.
Every star has bad games. But at least with Jordan you can't say he had a bad series that cost the team from moving forward in the post season or winning the finals
You’re right cus he only played 6 seasons right?
@@bones3142 what the HELL? No one says that! I did not say that here!
@@Sf75178 lol
@@bones3142 what's so funny?
Uh 1989. 1993 ECF if Pippen didn’t put 29 and 12 in game 3
What’s scary and probably the most notable thing said is, “not up to HIS standard” the man has his own category for how he plays. You tell me anyone else that we use as an ENTIRE STANDARD
Yes Jordan did have bad playoff games/ moments but he never had a bad playoff series like Magic, Lbj, Dirk, Kobe, Bird.
Exceptttt... bird swept him TWICE...
@@sugarnads still not a bad playoff series!!
Those are nights when Jordan is in "mortal" state. He used those failures to fuel his fire.
The 95 ECSF doesn't get brought up enough! NOBODY was saying MJ was "rusty" when he had the Double Nickle game!
He choked, BIG TIME, against the Magic. Period...
Literally everyone was saying he was rusty. He'd have great games,then really bad ones,just very inconsistent,which is why he shot 41% from the field in those 17 final games of the season. He upped his game in the playoffs and even though he averaged 31ppg on good efficiency,his stats are misleading. That was one of the worst series I've ever seen from him,he was just very inconsistent in the second half.
@@davidschmidt1793 I know he was inconsistent compared to before he left.
I also remember all the praise he got that game, with people proclaiming he was “back”.
If he was back, then he got beaten when he was back. If he wasn’t back, than nobody should have had the Bulls in the high regard they had that year.
He choked.
@@juliothom2408 It's Jordan we are talking about. No player had such high standards at the time. A 55 point performance is gonna impact the league. He played really well and he looked like prime Jordan. It was just like his Wizard's days when he had 51 and 45 in back to back games. Everyone said now he's back. But it's not how it works,it's all about being consistent. You can say he choked in 95,but you can't say he was at his best when he did that,because he obviously wasn't.
@@davidschmidt1793 If you get the Glory, you get the Shame as well.
He was playing. He choked. Case Closed. No sympathy or pity. GOAT level guys are expected to get it done.
@@juliothom2408 Of course he choked,but he wasn't at his best,and that's my point. It's not like what happened to Magic in the 84 finals or Lebron in 2011,when they were at their primes and really underperformed. Jordan wasn't at his best,still managed to average an efficient 31ppg,but he underperformed,mainly in the clutch, and his team lost.
Kinda expected the video to end immediately after the intro and then have an outro that lasted 7 minutes.
Of course they shouldn't impact his legacy. Everyone has an off night. Everyone has bad games. The man played 179 playoff games, and 1072 regular season games, it is *inevitable* that you'll be able to fish up a few stinker performances where he's not feeling it.
Just goes to show that even the best players have occasional games where they just crap the bed
I understand Orlando game he only played for like five weeks six weeks he came back and we weren’t upset with Him we were just glad he was back and he was still in baseball shape
Even "Mr. Clutch" himself Jerry West lost multiple NBA Finals. Being they most clutch player is not about how many times u failed. It's about being willing to fail looking it in the eye n still pulling the trigger with zero fear. It's about taking over the game on BOTH ends of the court when ur team needs u most. The things MJ did on both ends in those moments, just took over the game, u had to be there alive at the moment to understand. It will never be replicated. They end
MJ Had A commercial exactly about his failures and how it made him the successful player he was. If basically was “and I took it personally”. Hopeful this link works but I’m going to leave it i the reply 👇
ua-cam.com/video/45mMioJ5szc/v-deo.html
MJ commercial
If you can’t see the link, just search for “Jordan failure commercial”
As a Scottish citizen, I massively rate your sponsor for this vid ❤️
I'm a jordan and kobe man. Mike , def had his bad days on the court. 92 finals vs blazers was def one of his worst-cases . Yet, he still closed out the games by not being scared to fail
Next time you should mention that there were teams in the NBA in the 90s had Jordan stoppers. Players just to stop Jordan alone. Double and triple teaming every night he played.
These kids don't know about that lol
None of these were elimination games or even close to it like he was 3-0 or 2-0 up in most of this games, everybody has bad games.
Facts remember the commercial when he was in a suit walking into the Chicago stadium stating how many times he miss how many times he take the game winning shot and fail how many times he try that why he succeed
“I felled over and over and over in my career and that is why I succeed “
I think some of them dont matter because he was so instrumental to making sure that the Bulls got to where they needed to. Like the 97 ECF and the 96 finals. And in 1989, he was phenomenal in the first 2 rounds against the Cavaliers and the Knicks. And in 95, when he came back, the Bulls were going nowhere with a 34-31 record and then with no preseason and no professional level basketball for 1.5 years, he took them to a 47-35 record, beat Charlotte rather handily in the first round and then really could have won the second round series against the Magic but the Magic was just the better team that season. The Bulls had no inside presence and Michael just did not have the conditioning to play those high-level playoff games.
To be fair, even Jordan admits of his failures and those failures are what drove him to keep improving. He had like one Air Jordan commercial basically having that asa theme
The thing with Jordan and other greats is how they bounce back after bad games with a vengeance. Kobe is like this way also.
One of my favorite Bulls moments is when Chicago went on a 14-2 run in the 1992 Finals with Jordan on the bench. It proves that even with MJ not playing or doing his best, his Bulls were still able to hold their own in crucial moments.
In the 97 Finals game 5 why didn't Pippen step up because the series was tied 2-2 when Jordan had the infamous FLUGAME/FOOD PRISON game? Since the Bulls can hold up without Jordan. Also Pippen missed 35 games in the 97-98 season and the Bulls went 24-11 without Pippen so Jordan showed he can hold the team 2gether when Pippen was out fella.
U probably not even a Bulls fan but that was ur favorite moment? Lol. Nawl that was exciting to u because u thought u had ammunition to diminish Jordan fella lol. Stop playing like ur actually being genuine fella lol. Keep it real fella itz aiight that u don't like Jordan u don't need to create some false narrative to make ur argument fella lol. Be a MAN
@@g24deez MJ is literally my favorite player of all time. I just have a lot of respect for the 90’s Bulls. 72-10, Paxson and Kerr Finals game-winners, and 6 straight chips with Jordan as the alpha Bull.
Also, that’s not my favorite moment. It’s *one* of my favorite moments. My favorite moment is the “Last Shot” in the 1998 Finals.
@@railenherman6482 lol Paxson and Kerr? 😆 🤣 😂. Let me guess them 2 are ur favorite playerz 😆 🤣 😂.
@@g24deez Lmao no. I’m just saying they contributed to MJ’s legacy. And even then, it was Jordan who orchestrated those events. Passing to John when he was in a jam, and telling Steve to be ready during the timeout in the ‘97 Finals.
And still the GOAT, even on defeat!!
I'm happy people restarted to talk like Jordan was a human being!
He wasn't perfect. He wasn't always clutch. He made mistakes.
A lot of his fans just place those facts under the rug.
Those moments define every NBA great. Chris Bosh once talked about Kobe after a loss. Every top 10 legend had those moments and they bounced back.
22 hardwares
11-0 in Championship games
$33M+ salary almost the same budget of a single franschise, he even earned more than the Chicago Bulls.
$33M+ before is $60M+ today
Game Scores & True Shooting for these 5 Playoff Games:
5) 1992 Game 6: 6.0 & 39.2%
4) 1996 Game 4: 9.8 & 46.5%
3) 1989 Game 2: 8.4 & 40.0%
2) 1997 Game 4: 10.2 & 35.6%
1) 1995 Game 1: 2.60 & 39.3%
Chicago Bulls “help” 96 finals - Pippen - 15 points on 34% shooting. Kukoc - 13 points on 42% shooting. Harper - 6 points on 37% shooting. Kerr - 5 points on 30% shooting including 18% (4/22) from 3. The only 2 who got their points on decent efficiency were Longley & Rodman and that was only because they’d get the occasional offensive rebound and easy bucket 😂😂 the Sonics decided to double and triple Jordan constantly. They forced the rest of the Bulls to beat them - it almost worked. I’m not excusing MJ he wasn’t his best those last 3 games - but it was never as simple as “Payton guarded MJ and slowed him down” Payton guarded MJ plenty games 1-3 which the Bulls won easily and MJ was dominant. Games 4-6 the Sonics went after MJ big time as a team and the Bulls supporting cast didn’t exactly take advantage of the situation
The Glove should have guarded Jordan the entire series. I don't care what Jordan said Gary did affect MJ
Jordan had bad games just like anyone, but he always shot the ball until he had 20 points and the Bulls always shut down the other team defensively, so it didn't matter if his shot wasn't falling, the other team's shot wasn't either. It's so heroic how he always 'gets his'. So much so that many fans took to calling a player soft when they stop shooting the ball for any reason, yet in the same vein call it statpadding for others. They expect the same from players like LeBron and Curry but they actually don't statpad anywhere near as much as MJ did, instead it's cause to villify that player instead. Jordan has the highest usage percentage in NBA history to match his 10 scoring titles and his stans have the nerve to call any other player a statpadder or even hold other players to that same standard subconsciously without the seeing the blatant double standard. They need videos like these shoved down their throats every day, not more of the same garbage about how Kyrie and LeBron are the spawn of satan because they have internet.
In the 1993 eastern conference finals against the Knicks Jordan shot 10/27 in game 1 12/32 in game 2 3/18 in game 3 and 8/24 in game 6. So this shows that Jordan had bad shooting games in the playoffs plus 5/19 in game 6 in the 1996 finals against the sonics and 9/25 in game 7 in the ECF against the pacers.
Johnny, I appreciate the video highlighting that he had low moments. But to answer your final question at the end of the video. I think YOU know the answer to it
Some of these games could be considered "unsignificant", since Bulls were comfortable leading series.
Jordan of 1995 playoffs wasn't clearly the best Jordan (but not so bad, honestly; the real problem of those Bulls was the lack of a big man).
I could add to these games the first half of the 1993 ECF. But Bulls won anyway.
The greatness of the player was that after those bad games almost everytime erupted a great one.
And had the quality (proper of any great player) to do the best when it counts most. Before last minute in 1998 NBA finals, he was just 13-33 and something like 1-10 in the previous 15 minutes. He had just 1 reb and 1 ast, and was 4-7 at FT at a certain point. But I'm sure no one thought he could have missed the last shot...
Jordan wasn't perfect, but wasn't so far from
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I don’t mind this as long as we get a Bron, Magic & most definitely Kobe video. I mean MJ had a commercial about this
You see, the people who call Jordan fans Jordan stans because they do not highlight his failures, fail to understand that these games aren't forgotten, they are forgiven. For the simple fact that took ownership of everyone of those failires and got better from them.
Compare that to any of the other stars in the GOAT conversation, none of them bounce back, like Mike bounces back.
The difference is Michael Jordan would have a bad game in a series and come back 90% of the time and dropped 50 and have an amazing game. Where there's other Elite athletes or elite players that play basketball whatever 17 in the whole series you can't say that about Michael Jordan he might have a bad game here or there but he's not going to average under 25 and this whole series. The guy is human and he did have some s***** games.
I think this shows how great those bulls teams were,and it wasn't always about Michael.
This comment section just proved why I refuse to talk basketball to anyone these days. These game should absolutely impact his legacy to a degree, but most everyone here is saying that's its fine, it happens, nobody is perfect, etc. Any other player, and let's be honest its LeBron, puts up these numbers and they're immediately eliminated from being the GOAT. Especially Mike's game agaisnt the Magic. What proof? LeBron versus the Mavs 2011. The doubke standard is so outrageous and the bias is so skewed is sickening.
All I'll say is he didn't quit and go join Allstars 🤣 Boston broke him, so he quit and joined Allstars..
Every player has bad games. The thing about MJ is that you could always count on him, specially after a bad performance. He will lift you up. 90s MJ fans are sure the most spoiled sports fans ever
even superman has days when he is a mere mortal
Splendid video! I shall now refer to thee as Lord Arnett of the land of UA-cams
Thanks Jonny!
The only one that should impact his legacy more is 1995. If that were any other player no one would accept the “I was playing baseball excuse”
It shouldn't impact his legacy because it can't impact his legacy or it would impact his legacy. It just shows hes human being.
@@K.B.Williams u can say that ab every time any player broke down, the “he’s just human” should apply to magic 84, Bron 2011, etc if that’s how this works
@@alecboulton3537 you do realize training for baseball and basketball are two completely different regiments right? And to break your cycle to then comeback and redo that cycle randomly is a transition that’s impossible for almost any athlete, the fact that he made a comeback in general is an insane feat on its own, lebron’s melt down was just a pure lack of mental toughness
@@HoodieDT correct baseball to basketball ball bodies are completely different. Mj played pick up games but that's entirely different than fierce competition. The closest thing would be a player being out almost 2 years injured then coming back with 20+ games before the playoffs to get ready. Even then the difference in muscles and builds would show. So it's not really comparable.
It did impact his legacy. You can blame Nick Anderson! He inspired Jordan to get back to being #23. Took a while summary to do it, but #23 came back with a vengeance
Y’all bugging. 96 Bulls were like 72w 10 losses. And Jordan won the Championship on Fathers Day after His Father Died. That’s Historic
Rick Barry made a very good point which is you cannot compare different position players in terms of who is better. It is who is better at their position. I also think it is silly to compare different eras. That said, Barry picked his starting five, MJ was on it, LBJ was not (he had Wilt at center and put Bill Russell as his power forward; not sure who he had if people were being picky but it was not James). I do think it amazing that when polls are taken with fans, MJ is overwhelming considered the GOAT, twenty years after he stopped playing and almost 25 years after he left the Bulls. He also got the strongest ovation at the recent all star game which was IN CLEVELAND. Bird and Magic brought the NBA back from extinction but MJ made it a world wide sports powerhouse, second only to soccer. He stayed with the same team for most of his career and never left to go looking for championships by creating a super team. All right, well let’s see a compilation of LB’s chokes.
Even Air Jordan was Human , everyone has bad games even the greats
Actually the game against the heat is pretty impressive in my eyes ..he was 2/22 at one point and still manage to finish the game with 29 points.. usually when a player has a game this bad the best option is to call it a day..but even then mj believed in his abilities and manage to turn the game around..its pretty unbelievable
Everyone has bad games, what matters is that he won more than this could ever tarnish his legacy.
Those are just games tho , MJ himself said I missed more shots than I made .
But when it matters most (elimination games) he delivered.
I can't remember a bad series from MJ like the meltdowns LeBron had
Thanks for making this video Jordan Stans never mention any of this 💯🙏smdh they don't tell you the whole truth they will lie yes absolutely those bad moments when he played terrible is on his legacy but Jordan stans will ignore those things they don't like to keep it fair when it comes to Jordan
Wtf 🤣🤣 he never quit and joined up with other Allstars 😆 fkn clowns 🤡
@@eugeneadapt329 so what that mean nigga
What do you mean the whole truth 🤔🤣🤣 truth about what, some of his bad performances and failures🤡 this guy makes a video just to get clicks lol. We all know he struggled early on and had some bad games like most nba players do lol.. but after getting beat by the pistons and Celtics and Orlando in 95 he didn't go out and join Allstars 🤔 I don't think he lost any of those series this guy was talking about in the video lol. What do you mean by it should count on his legacy 🤔 and stop calling me nigga🤔
@@Dontresssmith3757 The truth is he never quit and ran to join Allstars after all of his failures..
@@eugeneadapt329 1-9 playoffs with out Phil Jackson and Scottie pippen he wins no championships 🏆
It shouldn't impact his overall legacy but that's no reason to not discuss it either. We do it with every other basketball player.
That's why the concords are not my favorite from the 11s. It was tarnished unlike the breds and spacejams.
Pretty crazy that some of MJ's worst stat lines would be considered good now for Russell Westbrook
There is a very nice test for everyone that thinks Le Bron is the Goat. Take the 100 best and worst games of both players and every day watch one match of each player one after the other.
Peep how he still averaged more ppg than the 6th man on the opposite team
It’s the 1995 playoffs against Orlando. After coming back from retirement he only played like 18 games before this I believe. Came back the very next playoffs and swept the same exact team he lost to.
He was fine. He averaged 31 that series. It was the fact that Chicago had no answers for Horace Grant. Once they got Rodamn (and Horace Nick Anderson and Brian shaw got injured) they were set
1986 First Round: Game 3 vs Celtics.
1989 ECF: Games 4, 5, and 6, vs Pistons.
1995 Semi Finals: Game 1 vs Magic.
Can’t blame that first one on him like he just came off of a 63 pt game that series that went to I believe a double OT. Games 4 and 6 against the Pistons weren’t horrible but were underwhelming, but game 5 was horrid
At least didn't quit and go join Allstars 😆
@@eugeneadapt329 he couldn't if you wanted to
it is funny how he mentions these bad performances and MJ at his worst is an average of today's stars (above 20 points per game)
thought these games are a part of his legacy-it doesnt take away the fact he is still one of the greatest that ever played basketball.
I know the LeThots are loving this one 😆
I found the last dance to be pretty boring.
Remember the most famous athlete on the planet? Remember his greatest hits?
Yes. He was the most famous athlete on the planet.
Well here they are again! But now stretched to eight hours
Thanks Johnny. This had more new information in seven minutes.