Then don't tolerate it anymore if a game launches in a broken State.Don't buy it.That's the only way these people will learn that if anybody says you need to be patient.Because the game just launched explain to them that it should be in a good state if they are expecting seventy dollars
How is it that AAA studios completely fuck up the launch of a game made 20 years ago and indie studios can release their games without many bugs or glitches on launch? This shit shouldn't be the norm. This is why QA testers exist!
Aspyr is not triple A and they had their kotor remake ripped from them because Sony presumely laughed at their vertical slice being so embarrassingly bad
It's really easy. Indie devs don't answer to big corp publishers, so they have the time. AAA Devs, or really any dev that has to answer to execs/investor demands are on whatever schedule is given to them, so if the publisher/execs or whoever say it's time to ship, then it's shipping, done or not. I really wish people would stop asking this question because we all know the answers. It's not a question of developer ability, it's just corporate decision making.
@@HotPocketEnjoyer It hasn’t been broken for awhile now. Severs are fixed, crashes are extremely rare for me (1 out of maybe 20 matches this week). Only issue rn is weird spawns and chargers drag racing sometimes.
Words can’t describe how lenient Microsoft’s refund policy is! I saw the poor reception online and I immediately went to Microsoft’s dedicated refund section on their official website to request a refund and it was granted within minutes! Send Aspyr a message. If you’re on Xbox, it is as simple as that.
my girlfriend works in the media / movie industry (advertisement) and recently her company started also doing ads for games (some something ships with bony stuff) - and absolutely NOBODY in the company understands how its possible (and accepted) to ship games in these miserables states, fixing them later: one collegaue said that imagine a movie comes out and the ending is missing or parts of the movie is a bit glitchy, has no color correction etc. and they say in a few months the rest of the movie will be released and fixed,. Games are the only industry where you can freaking do that.
Shout-out to movies that have actually tried this "patch it later" release model though... The godawful Cats VFX and Spiderverse 2's audio mix come to mind.
The most offensive part to me is how apparently it's lagging on PS5. That's unacceptable. I had this game running 1080p 240hz max settings, on a $450 laptop WITHOUT A GPU like a decade ago. This game runs on a Ti84 calculator basically. How badly did they write over the old code?
@@ultimaterecoil1136 That's not actually a surprise, for the same reason modern PC's need quite a few workarounds to runs games from over 20 years ago. PS4 uses hardware that's "closer" to what the original code ran on than PS5 uses.
@@mattandrews2594 oh I absolutely get why it is that way. I just find it another funny aspect of upgrading to ps5 being rather pointless. First they give ps4 almost all the games on ps5 anyway then some of them run better on ps4 too
I’ve been playing online and it has had some hiccups but I don’t think it’s bad at all. I’m having fun. I had battlefront 2 as a child and oh my god this makes me happy
I literally cannot believe that they messed this up. Literally could have been the easiest W in modern gaming with just a smidgen of executive care. Absolutely unacceptable, how hard is it too to do cross play multiplayer for a 20 year old game, make it 60-120FPS at 4K with reasonable file sizes for upscaled textures. Absolutely atrocious and utterly disrespectful to the consumer.
@@itsthemumu8585I don’t want their “battlefronts”. I want a battlefront where vehicles aren’t treated like shit where they explode when you exit them and there isn’t multi-passenger vehicles.
@@sempiternal_futility do you realize how large 4k files get? 4096x4096 pixels compared to the 512x512 of the original games. 8x larger. Pre-compression, a 4k texture can easily hit 200GB+. Post-compression they squeeze it down and can sometimes hit 40MB, but not always. About 60% of a game is texture; so, take about 6.6GB of the OG games, and multiple it by the increase of about 8 times in texture sizes and you easily get 52.8GB. The rest is all just the basic programming from 20yrs ago and then the new, shite netcode.
@@soulmare333You did not compare this to Elden Ring one is a open world game with actual good graphics and this is just added storage for no reason when we are missing cutscenes
Because it gets worse and worse ever few months, the gaming companies have some weird measuring contest to make the worse game and worse launch possible
They'll fix it. Idk why people expect the game to be so good on launch. Companies rush games because they can update it anytime. This shouldn't be the case, but in a few instances, it saves the game from never coming out. I hate that in today's world, we can't expect a game to actually work on launch, but we might as well get used to it. I'd just stop buying games launch sadly. 😢
@@Precastfir197this is a horrible take ur the reason why game devs think this lazy behavior is acceptable. Not to mention this game is EXTREMELY old it’s pretty sad that the original game works better then a more modern version 💀
I’ve been playing Battlefront since ‘04. There are definitely some bugs in Classic collection, but I know those can be addressed in the future, hopefully sooner than later. Despite that, I rather enjoyed playing it this morning! I cannot say for online multiplayer though because I don’t play online gaming anymore.
@@TheAceOfCubs accept this is ASSpyr, they dont fix their games, im still waiting for them to fix the KOTOR re release like 5 years later they just pump and dump
this is way worse than the day before . A game that always was trash since consemption , these were actual good games and is star wars nobody expect this crap to be like this unlike the day before
I worked at Aspyr for a little over a month. I quit because it's tough to live on minimum wage. That's right, they paid (maybe still do) their QA testers minimum wage. If you want to survive, you had to work overtime, like 60 hours per week. What kind of quality do you expect, when you treat humans like cattle? The real kicker? Manager at the time used the excuse of "you're getting paid to play games!" It is still a job, my dude, and every job should pay a living wage. I still need to eat, still need a living space. If your business can't afford that, then you don't deserve to be a business.
you should be thankful... i started in the games industry 16 years ago as a QA, and i would have been laughed out the building if i asked for minimum wage... back then QA testers were classed as part time workers so you couldnt get a living wage and after that game launched? no more job time to find a new one
@theaces3697 It's not really a competition of awfulness, but I feel you, and I'm sorry you too were mistreated. I'm doing fine financially now, and hope you are too.
@@Chronically0nline i didnt mean it like that so relax... i am saying that the industry has come along way compared to how scummy and explotative it used to be, so what should he not be thankful that the QA tester role actually gets paid minimum wage now? because as i said back in the day you would be laughed out the company expecting minimum wage for that role as it used to be a role to exploit Uni grads who were trying to get into the industry
@theaces3697 Expecting someone to be thankful for what is, by definition, the minimum, solely because it used to be even worse, is just an awful mentality. Heck, it's not even the minimum to live. Not at 40 hours per week, at least. It's big time "be grateful you're only beaten once per week, because I used to be beaten every day" mentality.
Ooof... This kind of shit makes it more and more clear why Aspyr had the KOTOR remake taken from them. Sounds like a pretty incompetently run studio. Also the 60 GB of storage? That is just baffling for two PS2-era games. That sounds like some really bad optimization or total lack of compression of assets. Seriously, why does Aspyr keep getting hired for anything? Nepotism is the only thing that I feel can explain it. Whoever runs Aspyr must be related or is the spouse or really good friends or whatever of someone in the Embracer leadership.
How does a gaming company release two already finished games in unfinished states. This is the equivalent of the smart kid letting you cheat off him in a true false test and successfully putting C as you answer for the questions.
I literally called this. I said to one my my friends “if the multiplayer isn’t perfect (and it won’t be) it’s DOA because there’s literally nothing else going for it”. I’ve never been more happy I stayed away from a game I actually was interested in but I’m very not happy I was right. What a squandered opportunity.
To anyone who has more than 2h of playtime on Steam, you can likely still get refunds if you request it. They do this for games that are broken on launch.
Honestly the original version still runs and plays online just fine on Steam and it's like $2 when on sale. Plus it doesn't have half the campaign cutscenes missing like this version 💀
I knew this would happen that’s why I didn’t bother to get invested in this collection. Modern gaming isn’t early 2000’s games even if they take a game from the early 2000’s
Because there was no DLC. The game had to be finished on disc. DLC ruined gaming because developers can release a bad product, and just say oh well.. we’ll fix it later.
That's honestly heartbreaking, loved playing this as a kid, i was looking forward to the online aspect, SW hasn't gotten enough love the past few years for anything
Here's an idea Stop Preordering! Oh that's right gamers have no self control and are tools, facts! It's your own fault ppl for this because you keep letting them get away with this. Stop buying unless the game is already finished.
Yeah, sorry, there is no excuse for this kind of release anymore. If a studio does this, they will not get any of my time or money. There are plenty of other great games to play.
And more reasons as to why refunds aren't apart of PSN. There needs to be a class action lawsuit against Sony & Nintendo to have a Steam like refund policy.
I was thinking of buying this yesterday - but all of the reviews that dropped yesterday had one thing in common - They had all played the single player. No multiplayer. And I was like ok I am gonna wait and see. Glad I did.
@@yesthisislyra it still had some substance, thats why it was able to improve. However this doesn’t it seems so soulless and knowing EA they’ll never give it one.
This is absolutely sad. I was so excited for these games, man I recall playing this constantly on my old Xbox, I'd occasionally have friends over and play splitscreen and damn I freaking loved it.
Just sent my request to steam. Halo multiplayer on the MCC is more to my taste anyways, even though Battlefront is part of my childhood. Truly disappointing.
Mates and I bought it, played for only an hour. I originally planned to leave it for 2 weeks to see if gets fixed up during the refund period. But after actually playing it we all refunded it as soon as we stopped playing. The region lock meant that here in Australia it looked like there was less than 100 people in the entire server list. If the numbers are that low, then there's no point in buying/playing it as a multiplayer game.
Alot of clowns on UA-cam like to have bait titles these days. Crying about online not working yet the rest of the game plays fine. Honestly makes me wonder if this dude is some suicide squad fan boi cause that game has the worst launch of all time.
@@disregard7275 except the rest of the game doesnt work fine xD its missing campaign cutscenes, Heroes Vs Villians on a lot of maps just doesnt work due to the fact the mode was only ever meant to be on one map, there is a huge amount of broken textures due to ASSpyr using AI to upscale textures, some menus and options do not work correclty, hit boxes and hit reg is off, i could go on, maybe go and check the reddit and other videos because this game is a broken cash grab
@@disregard7275he listed a boat load of bugs that have nothing to do with online wtf are you on about, the entire game is broken and it'll take a long while to fix. (Assuming they don't just abandon it)
My brother in christ this isnt even in the top 10 worst game launches, the entire singleplayer segment works great which makes a huge part of the game more than playable, meanwhile some other games were barely able to launch on release.
It's still bad and inexcusable. I wouldn't be surprised if the singleplayer mode introduced new game breaking bugs that weren't present in the original.
@@Talon18136Uh no. The original stand alone games are ALSO ON STEAM and have NEVER had any issues. The original stand alone port versions also have working multiplayer. This is just complete failure and incompetence of Aspyr Studios and EA. Its a cash grab.
Considering the context, it’s up there. All Aspyr had to do was something similar to what 343 did with MCC. Make a nice menu, allow players to search for both BF and BFII simultaneously and most importantly, have dedicated servers. They put the least amount of effort into this game that they possibly could. The game clearly is not optimized (considering it’s size), the matchmaking is archaic, and the multiplayer is unplayable.
@@JJGray21not really because the og mcc was unplayable even offline because of bugs while this collection only seems to have bad servers and a few minor bugs
@@yourself1210Okay let me rephrase, they should have learned from MCC and made a product similar to how MCC is now. As it stands, “the classic collection” is completely unplayable online. To me, that’s inexcusable. I already own digital copies of both BF and BFII. The only reason to buy this game was to play online with friends
I was really looking forward to this remaster. My 7yr old and I dusted off my copy of the the classic Battlefront 2 and he told me it’s his new favorite game. I wanted to play online matches with him on this but I guess we will just wait to see if it gets fixed. Not looking forward to telling him we can’t play it for a while
the quality is low because they wanted to save more money not because they can't make a good game it's annoying how people defend this and say the original version is bad and that they'll fix the new one eventually at least the original was finished before it was released and not a broken beta version like the shiny new one
That Hoth match I was in with you was my first game on and it shattered my childhood. I was so upset. Then I went and played some solo after trying a few more matches, to more dissapointment about how they changed some of the iconic sounds like the planet loading screen in BF1.
Battlefront 1 on PS5 has problems with the campaign, insane AI teammates that stand around and soak up shots and even rolled into my shots but the enemy AI absolutely fine, loud crashing sounds when multiple explosions happen, the cutscenes are jarring and horrible to look at. Was gonna try Galatic Conquest today and maybe the PS4 version of the game with backwards compatibility
A lot of the “issues” you brought up were features of the original games. However; the connectivity problem is bad and I’ve experienced a few bugs myself, especially in the Hero Assault mode
Well I did pre order and I did already play the game to some extent and while i don't know how it is on other platforms I can atleast say that the game multiplayer wise is unplayable for me and my friends on xbox... we just keep on crashing every frickin time we try to join a game via the server browser...😥
What do you mean demand. Microsoft and Steam both have very lenient policies on refunds. If you played more than 2 hours of this trash heap at launch, then at that point you sort of deserve to have to keep it.
@@TenjinZekken Xbox are allowing players to refund regardless as they know how bad this game is xD, i played for 6 hours (did some campaigns) and they still let me refund it
Honestly I don’t get why people still get excited for games any more. Have people not learned the lesson that they will release broken? I think the best way to combat this is that no one buys a game at release and hit them in the pocket; that is the only way they will understand
This is really disappointing. Me and my buddy have always dreamed of playing galactic conquest together online. Was hoping we could do so with Steam Remote Play. I don't know why this series can't catch a break.
I glad I waited to grab this one. Time to keep an eye on the review updates and subreddit to see if fixes even come. This is a punch straight to the childhood
While playing on the Xbox Series X the characters are constantly getting stuck and will not move. You have to constantly respawn your character to complete the game.
I mean it is launch day and I have no experience with the company behind this multiplayer service. I played a good 2 hours of multiplayer and even though I had some descent matches on Xbox, this multiplayer service needs a lot of work. Hopefully they update soon
Damn the nostalgia making me pre-order! At least the offline stuff works Makes me think no-one making these remakes knows the original games exist, and is ignorant of how they’re loved
I wonder how they'll handle the BFII permanent power ups and elite weapons online (when you get a medal 64 times, you get the powerup the medal gives permanently)
Hate this ‘ship now, fix later’ method to the industry.
we did this to ourselves, we allowed it happen, so it became the norm.
Then don't tolerate it anymore if a game launches in a broken State.Don't buy it.That's the only way these people will learn that if anybody says you need to be patient.Because the game just launched explain to them that it should be in a good state if they are expecting seventy dollars
Never buy day 1, never pre-order. You get what you deserve for giving these corporations any benefit of the doubt.
@@spartanx9293 Indeed, we need to show them, this shit isnt gonna fly anymore
American capitalism
Worth mentioning, half the campaign cutscenes are missing 💀
Wait, are you serious?….
There's no way.....
@@tmandoesgamesv2.018 YEP it's bugged 😂
@@willwunsche6940 this is actual brain cancer
...
How is it that AAA studios completely fuck up the launch of a game made 20 years ago and indie studios can release their games without many bugs or glitches on launch? This shit shouldn't be the norm. This is why QA testers exist!
Aspyr is not really a AAA studio lol
@megs780 I was mainly referring to EA but regardless this shouldn't have been released in the state it's in
They outsource the game to a studio with no experience on the original game or they lose the source code
Aspyr is not triple A and they had their kotor remake ripped from them because Sony presumely laughed at their vertical slice being so embarrassingly bad
It's really easy. Indie devs don't answer to big corp publishers, so they have the time. AAA Devs, or really any dev that has to answer to execs/investor demands are on whatever schedule is given to them, so if the publisher/execs or whoever say it's time to ship, then it's shipping, done or not.
I really wish people would stop asking this question because we all know the answers. It's not a question of developer ability, it's just corporate decision making.
even when old games get re-released they still launch like new games hahaha
This is funny and depressing at the same time.
Haha
It's sad because aspyr also just launched the tomb raider trilogy which was close to flawless
They should have hired 12 of the best bf modders and have them do it, these companies/corporations are incompetent
NO EXGUSE for a 20 year old game to be this bad
Well, back to Helldivers 2 then
Yep, me too. Thought I’d be giving it a break for a day or 2 but guess not
That game is broken too lmao
Rub it in 😀
@@HotPocketEnjoyerXbox, huh?
@@HotPocketEnjoyer
It hasn’t been broken for awhile now. Severs are fixed, crashes are extremely rare for me (1 out of maybe 20 matches this week). Only issue rn is weird spawns and chargers drag racing sometimes.
This fucking franchise is cursed
Truly
It’s been cursed sense Disney bought it.
It’s gaming in general
@millfilm1 bro spitting facts
@@millfilm1 I wouldn't go that far
This was not like the simulations.
Sadly... :(
Well done copying a steam review comment!
dont steal jokes kid
Get this man a participation trophy! @@Empty12345
Words can’t describe how lenient Microsoft’s refund policy is! I saw the poor reception online and I immediately went to Microsoft’s dedicated refund section on their official website to request a refund and it was granted within minutes! Send Aspyr a message. If you’re on Xbox, it is as simple as that.
Same for steam I just said “it wasn’t fun”
Having a standard refund system isn't "lenient.
@@Giliver wait until this guy finds out you can do this in real life stores too
Must be nice, playstation is awful! As soon as you download the game you can't get a refund.
How did you send Aspyr a message?
my girlfriend works in the media / movie industry (advertisement) and recently her company started also doing ads for games (some something ships with bony stuff) - and absolutely NOBODY in the company understands how its possible (and accepted) to ship games in these miserables states, fixing them later: one collegaue said that imagine a movie comes out and the ending is missing or parts of the movie is a bit glitchy, has no color correction etc. and they say in a few months the rest of the movie will be released and fixed,. Games are the only industry where you can freaking do that.
Uhh no they're far from the only industry pushing out half-assed products.
Shout-out to movies that have actually tried this "patch it later" release model though... The godawful Cats VFX and Spiderverse 2's audio mix come to mind.
@@Cooldude112233445570 wow wasnt aware of that, but at least its a rarity...while in games its basically the common release model...
"i hope this was informative"
It's actually heartbreaking 😭
The most offensive part to me is how apparently it's lagging on PS5. That's unacceptable. I had this game running 1080p 240hz max settings, on a $450 laptop WITHOUT A GPU like a decade ago. This game runs on a Ti84 calculator basically. How badly did they write over the old code?
The funnier thing is it seemingly runs better on ps4 then ps5. Or anything else. Of all the things to run smoothest it’s the last gen console
@@ultimaterecoil1136 That's not actually a surprise, for the same reason modern PC's need quite a few workarounds to runs games from over 20 years ago. PS4 uses hardware that's "closer" to what the original code ran on than PS5 uses.
@@mattandrews2594 oh I absolutely get why it is that way. I just find it another funny aspect of upgrading to ps5 being rather pointless. First they give ps4 almost all the games on ps5 anyway then some of them run better on ps4 too
I’ve been playing online and it has had some hiccups but I don’t think it’s bad at all. I’m having fun. I had battlefront 2 as a child and oh my god this makes me happy
@@itsghostgamer16 let me guess ps4?
I literally cannot believe that they messed this up. Literally could have been the easiest W in modern gaming with just a smidgen of executive care. Absolutely unacceptable, how hard is it too to do cross play multiplayer for a 20 year old game, make it 60-120FPS at 4K with reasonable file sizes for upscaled textures. Absolutely atrocious and utterly disrespectful to the consumer.
Well battlefront 3 is now more dead than ever
Sad
@Ostrava_Of_Boletaria not what he meant
@Ostrava_Of_Boletariaif Dice was left alone for BF2, and weren’t forced to include the P2W functions, we probably would have BF3.
@Ostrava_Of_Boletaria yes thay do
@@itsthemumu8585I don’t want their “battlefronts”. I want a battlefront where vehicles aren’t treated like shit where they explode when you exit them and there isn’t multi-passenger vehicles.
Lol it has more gigs than Elden Ring😂😂
By 0.2GB. That's literally it. It's a lot total, but not much bigger than Elden Ring.
@@soulmare333 this is a 15yo+ game though
My bad, my brain went to console.
@@sempiternal_futility do you realize how large 4k files get? 4096x4096 pixels compared to the 512x512 of the original games. 8x larger. Pre-compression, a 4k texture can easily hit 200GB+. Post-compression they squeeze it down and can sometimes hit 40MB, but not always. About 60% of a game is texture; so, take about 6.6GB of the OG games, and multiple it by the increase of about 8 times in texture sizes and you easily get 52.8GB. The rest is all just the basic programming from 20yrs ago and then the new, shite netcode.
@@soulmare333You did not compare this to Elden Ring one is a open world game with actual good graphics and this is just added storage for no reason when we are missing cutscenes
"Worse game launch in history" happens every few months
Because it gets worse and worse ever few months, the gaming companies have some weird measuring contest to make the worse game and worse launch possible
We will never get a fully fleshed out and working star wars game ever again.
They'll fix it. Idk why people expect the game to be so good on launch. Companies rush games because they can update it anytime. This shouldn't be the case, but in a few instances, it saves the game from never coming out. I hate that in today's world, we can't expect a game to actually work on launch, but we might as well get used to it. I'd just stop buying games launch sadly. 😢
@@Precastfir197 its a 20 year old game it should work on launch buddy stop throating aspyr
@@Precastfir197this is a horrible take ur the reason why game devs think this lazy behavior is acceptable. Not to mention this game is EXTREMELY old it’s pretty sad that the original game works better then a more modern version 💀
Dark Forces Remastered: Am I a joke to you?
Though something tells me the publishers forced the dev to rush the fuck out of this game.
To be fair we have the Jedi series of games which have been a perfect grand slam home run IMO & are amazing.
Only played fallen order so far though.
I can never get excited about games anymore this stuff always happens. The next dragon ball game coming out is my last hope
What about all the other good game's.
it will be just another shitty anime game.
@@jhoonysanyeah Tekken 8 came out earlier this year and is really good, same with Helldivers 2
If it’s not a RPG expect it to be broken/not working,
I'm already fully expecting two thirds of the cast to be dlc
"Worst Game Launch in History"
GTA Trilogy Definitive Edition: "Am I a joke to you?"
I was about to spend my money, I hadn’t looked up reviews but saw blitz drop this and was like ugh oh. Glad I saved my money.
I’ve been playing Battlefront since ‘04. There are definitely some bugs in Classic collection, but I know those can be addressed in the future, hopefully sooner than later. Despite that, I rather enjoyed playing it this morning! I cannot say for online multiplayer though because I don’t play online gaming anymore.
@@TheAceOfCubs accept this is ASSpyr, they dont fix their games, im still waiting for them to fix the KOTOR re release like 5 years later they just pump and dump
I'm insulted by the File size lmao better off just buying the OGs
“Worst launch in history”. The day before: “hold me beer”
and cyberpunk (at the time)
yea try Fallout 76
Halo:MCC
Day before was already super sus there’s no surprise there. This is the easiest thing to do and they couldn’t get it to work
this is way worse than the day before . A game that always was trash since consemption , these were actual good games and is star wars nobody expect this crap to be like this unlike the day before
Greed will kill every gaming IP we hold dear.
Just pure greed for the sake of getting more money.
Company: Yeah, easy win!
Consumers: Did you put any work into it?
Company: ...no.
It would have turned out better if they didn’t put any work into it.
How did they even manage to get it this bad?
I worked at Aspyr for a little over a month. I quit because it's tough to live on minimum wage. That's right, they paid (maybe still do) their QA testers minimum wage. If you want to survive, you had to work overtime, like 60 hours per week. What kind of quality do you expect, when you treat humans like cattle? The real kicker? Manager at the time used the excuse of "you're getting paid to play games!" It is still a job, my dude, and every job should pay a living wage. I still need to eat, still need a living space. If your business can't afford that, then you don't deserve to be a business.
you should be thankful... i started in the games industry 16 years ago as a QA, and i would have been laughed out the building if i asked for minimum wage... back then QA testers were classed as part time workers so you couldnt get a living wage and after that game launched? no more job time to find a new one
@@theaces3697get outta here with that “you should be thankful” bs
@theaces3697 It's not really a competition of awfulness, but I feel you, and I'm sorry you too were mistreated. I'm doing fine financially now, and hope you are too.
@@Chronically0nline i didnt mean it like that so relax... i am saying that the industry has come along way compared to how scummy and explotative it used to be,
so what should he not be thankful that the QA tester role actually gets paid minimum wage now? because as i said back in the day you would be laughed out the company expecting minimum wage for that role as it used to be a role to exploit Uni grads who were trying to get into the industry
@theaces3697 Expecting someone to be thankful for what is, by definition, the minimum, solely because it used to be even worse, is just an awful mentality. Heck, it's not even the minimum to live. Not at 40 hours per week, at least. It's big time "be grateful you're only beaten once per week, because I used to be beaten every day" mentality.
Ooof...
This kind of shit makes it more and more clear why Aspyr had the KOTOR remake taken from them. Sounds like a pretty incompetently run studio.
Also the 60 GB of storage? That is just baffling for two PS2-era games. That sounds like some really bad optimization or total lack of compression of assets.
Seriously, why does Aspyr keep getting hired for anything? Nepotism is the only thing that I feel can explain it. Whoever runs Aspyr must be related or is the spouse or really good friends or whatever of someone in the Embracer leadership.
Well, time boot up the original game on the classic PS2.
You and me both
I've had the OGs installed on my Xbox one. They're nice timekillers
watch those wrist rockets
How does a gaming company release two already finished games in unfinished states. This is the equivalent of the smart kid letting you cheat off him in a true false test and successfully putting C as you answer for the questions.
I wasn't expecting the Dark Side to win today.
This is why we can’t have nice things
@@Leo.de99 The ending of Revenge of the Sith be like
“The thing I remember most about the rise of the empire is how…. quiet is was”
The dark side clouded our Judgement
I literally called this. I said to one my my friends “if the multiplayer isn’t perfect (and it won’t be) it’s DOA because there’s literally nothing else going for it”. I’ve never been more happy I stayed away from a game I actually was interested in but I’m very not happy I was right. What a squandered opportunity.
To anyone who has more than 2h of playtime on Steam, you can likely still get refunds if you request it. They do this for games that are broken on launch.
man what is it with game collections having a shite launch
The whole videogame industry is a giant money laundering scheme at this point
Releasing original games broken isn’t enough- these companies need to release OLD games broken these days too! It’s like FOOD to them!
i like to give it a 24 hour grace period to see if it will get improved
if not, i will just refund it probably and rebuy the original 2
Honestly the original version still runs and plays online just fine on Steam and it's like $2 when on sale. Plus it doesn't have half the campaign cutscenes missing like this version 💀
I knew this would happen that’s why I didn’t bother to get invested in this collection. Modern gaming isn’t early 2000’s games even if they take a game from the early 2000’s
How come the games worked when they were released in the early 2000s?!
Because there was no DLC. The game had to be finished on disc. DLC ruined gaming because developers can release a bad product, and just say oh well.. we’ll fix it later.
I'm 44, and i was planning on buying it to have my kids play it and take part of my youth what gaming was like back then. Such a disappointment.
That's honestly heartbreaking, loved playing this as a kid, i was looking forward to the online aspect, SW hasn't gotten enough love the past few years for anything
Here's an idea Stop Preordering! Oh that's right gamers have no self control and are tools, facts! It's your own fault ppl for this because you keep letting them get away with this. Stop buying unless the game is already finished.
Yeah, sorry, there is no excuse for this kind of release anymore. If a studio does this, they will not get any of my time or money. There are plenty of other great games to play.
And more reasons as to why refunds aren't apart of PSN. There needs to be a class action lawsuit against Sony & Nintendo to have a Steam like refund policy.
I was thinking of buying this yesterday - but all of the reviews that dropped yesterday had one thing in common - They had all played the single player. No multiplayer. And I was like ok I am gonna wait and see. Glad I did.
my dissapointment knows no bounds
Good thing I didn't pre order... But I wish I lived in a world where I COULD pre order with peace of mind.
Welp…turns out Star Wars Battlefront Classic Collection is like Halo MCC all over again! Same problems too just…almost a decade apart….
Except MCC still had a fun core at its centre. Just nothing around it. This is just a hollow shell without a core.
MCC was literally unplayable, way worse than this.
@@yesthisislyra it still had some substance, thats why it was able to improve. However this doesn’t it seems so soulless and knowing EA they’ll never give it one.
Thank goodness I bought and downloaded Battlefront 2 to my xbox last year...for $5 no less.
This is absolutely sad.
I was so excited for these games, man I recall playing this constantly on my old Xbox, I'd occasionally have friends over and play splitscreen and damn I freaking loved it.
How do we refund the game?!?!?
Buy Battlefront from Pandemic Studios, not Aspyr. Its a same game but better.
It sucks refund it guys!!!
Well, tell that to the people who played for over two hours.
1) I thank Mintz, and 2) I thank you
Just sent my request to steam. Halo multiplayer on the MCC is more to my taste anyways, even though Battlefront is part of my childhood. Truly disappointing.
@@BaxterAndLunala GREAT IDEA!
Already did.
I don't understand how gaming companies are able go ship out broken unfinished product and not get sued because it is so commonly like a scam
I had no hopes for this when they didn't say it had cross play
Cross play seems to be the least of our concerns right now.
Mates and I bought it, played for only an hour. I originally planned to leave it for 2 weeks to see if gets fixed up during the refund period. But after actually playing it we all refunded it as soon as we stopped playing. The region lock meant that here in Australia it looked like there was less than 100 people in the entire server list. If the numbers are that low, then there's no point in buying/playing it as a multiplayer game.
Well, there goes any Battlefront 3 hype I had
@Ostrava_Of_Boletaria how can you emulate a game that doesn't exist?
@@I_Am_Wasabi_Manit was a playstation vita game
@@sweetpurple8812 renegade squadron? that isn't battlefront 3
Ugh that breaks my heart, finals have just ended for me and I was really looking forward to old school starwars for the break.
It's not the worst launch in history that's just hyperbolic. Wow
Alot of clowns on UA-cam like to have bait titles these days. Crying about online not working yet the rest of the game plays fine. Honestly makes me wonder if this dude is some suicide squad fan boi cause that game has the worst launch of all time.
@@disregard7275 except the rest of the game doesnt work fine xD its missing campaign cutscenes, Heroes Vs Villians on a lot of maps just doesnt work due to the fact the mode was only ever meant to be on one map, there is a huge amount of broken textures due to ASSpyr using AI to upscale textures, some menus and options do not work correclty, hit boxes and hit reg is off, i could go on, maybe go and check the reddit and other videos because this game is a broken cash grab
@@disregard7275he listed a boat load of bugs that have nothing to do with online wtf are you on about, the entire game is broken and it'll take a long while to fix. (Assuming they don't just abandon it)
@@disregard7275also suicide squad isn't even close to being among the worst launches, you need a reality check. Lol
@@disregard7275Suicide Squad isn’t close to being the worst. It’s not really even a bad game.
I knew it will fail. That was just a cash grab. So lucky that I didn't pre-order only because some youtubers overhyped it.
My brother in christ this isnt even in the top 10 worst game launches, the entire singleplayer segment works great which makes a huge part of the game more than playable, meanwhile some other games were barely able to launch on release.
Exactly this game is 20 years old they tried to reboot servers for multiplayer it’s expected to have some issues with that
I think playing in first person the aiming is better which is also true with the original
But then you can just play the old game for that so there’s no point if you can’t play a better online experience lol
It's still bad and inexcusable. I wouldn't be surprised if the singleplayer mode introduced new game breaking bugs that weren't present in the original.
@@Talon18136Uh no. The original stand alone games are ALSO ON STEAM and have NEVER had any issues. The original stand alone port versions also have working multiplayer. This is just complete failure and incompetence of Aspyr Studios and EA. Its a cash grab.
Previously pre-ordered Battlefront 2 (2017) and glad I didnt make the same mistake for this one in buying it.
I never buy games at release, i just wait till UA-camrs or Twitter reviews it 😂
Well. That happens before release typically so.....
@@Rrrafael.00 Well till then we keep waiting until it's patched
Glad I watched this first. Man I'm sick of how games are made these days
Worst launch in history?? ok buddy calm down there
Considering the context, it’s up there. All Aspyr had to do was something similar to what 343 did with MCC. Make a nice menu, allow players to search for both BF and BFII simultaneously and most importantly, have dedicated servers.
They put the least amount of effort into this game that they possibly could. The game clearly is not optimized (considering it’s size), the matchmaking is archaic, and the multiplayer is unplayable.
Fr lmao
@@JJGray21not really because the og mcc was unplayable even offline because of bugs while this collection only seems to have bad servers and a few minor bugs
@@yourself1210Okay let me rephrase, they should have learned from MCC and made a product similar to how MCC is now. As it stands, “the classic collection” is completely unplayable online. To me, that’s inexcusable. I already own digital copies of both BF and BFII. The only reason to buy this game was to play online with friends
@@JJGray21 fair enough
I was really looking forward to this remaster. My 7yr old and I dusted off my copy of the the classic Battlefront 2 and he told me it’s his new favorite game.
I wanted to play online matches with him on this but I guess we will just wait to see if it gets fixed. Not looking forward to telling him we can’t play it for a while
the quality is low because they wanted to save more money
not because they can't make a good game
it's annoying how people defend this and say the original version is bad and that they'll fix the new one eventually
at least the original was finished before it was released and not a broken beta version like the shiny new one
It’s true these companies do have the capability to make a good game but they don’t in order to try to make more money.
@@stickthelanding4785 yeah they just gotta milk it for everything they think they can
decrease quality and insurance the price you pay
The old ones weren't finished though, they still have terrible bugs to this day. Lol
Why lie?
@@Giliver okay triple A simp
the old ones didn't have overpriced micro transactions
and they were more finished than this disappointment
"This is so modern gaming" is the best and sadly most easy to understand sentence
How do you fuck up the launch of a 20 year old game 💀
That Hoth match I was in with you was my first game on and it shattered my childhood. I was so upset. Then I went and played some solo after trying a few more matches, to more dissapointment about how they changed some of the iconic sounds like the planet loading screen in BF1.
Immediately refunded this garbage
Only way I'll play is if it comes to Gamepass
@@ogAlacathexactly
Can I refund if i bought it digitally?
@@nacho__063yes
@@nacho__063yes
Definitely not the worst launch ever. Anthem and Fallout 76 still hold that crown
Ok time to try to get a refund
When I had this game as a kid all I played against was bots never had online back then
Who could've possibly seen this coming lmao
Considering how bad game industry is nowadays, it was kinda to be expected.
Battlefront 1 on PS5 has problems with the campaign, insane AI teammates that stand around and soak up shots and even rolled into my shots but the enemy AI absolutely fine, loud crashing sounds when multiple explosions happen, the cutscenes are jarring and horrible to look at. Was gonna try Galatic Conquest today and maybe the PS4 version of the game with backwards compatibility
4:41 husky raid moment
Love that the Halo 3 OST is casually playing in the background. I hear you "Farthest Outpost" lol
I'm gonna stay til it's fixed
Cash grabs never go well. Just like the GTA remakes. 😂
16 hours after release, the online has already improved, a lot more servers and runs smoothly!
They’re definitely fixing the issues! Patience everyone
Is that ong?
Glad to see instead of damage controlling on Social Media, Aspyr is actually trying to fix the issues as quickly as possible.
The product should have released in a ready state. Don't tell us to be patient with a poor job.
@@mwahahaha2100 he talking about if you want to play it right, you gotta wait regardless of the morality of the situation
A lot of the “issues” you brought up were features of the original games. However; the connectivity problem is bad and I’ve experienced a few bugs myself, especially in the Hero Assault mode
Should I refund?
If you're only interested in the multiplayer you honestly should refund it and buy it if it gets fixed in a sale on a later date...
It not broken in the first place.
The "UA-camrs" are just being dramatic to get views.
Well I did pre order and I did already play the game to some extent and while i don't know how it is on other platforms I can atleast say that the game multiplayer wise is unplayable for me and my friends on xbox... we just keep on crashing every frickin time we try to join a game via the server browser...😥
do whatever you want, bro. who cares
@@TheRoguePrince0 quiet corporate shill...
modern gaming is so fucking lame, HOW DO YOU FUCK UP A RE-RELEASE??? the game is already made 😂
We need to demand refunds. We're need to demand returns.
What do you mean demand. Microsoft and Steam both have very lenient policies on refunds. If you played more than 2 hours of this trash heap at launch, then at that point you sort of deserve to have to keep it.
@@TenjinZekken only played 20 minutes. Fuck the people that released this shit
We need to.
@@TenjinZekken sad thing is PlayStation doesn’t allow it
@@TenjinZekken Xbox are allowing players to refund regardless as they know how bad this game is xD, i played for 6 hours (did some campaigns) and they still let me refund it
Isnt the game like, 70 gigs, too?
The originals were like 5 gigs at most if at all.
Man, who let them cook?
Honestly I don’t get why people still get excited for games any more. Have people not learned the lesson that they will release broken? I think the best way to combat this is that no one buys a game at release and hit them in the pocket; that is the only way they will understand
We have said this for years but people are way to stupid to listen so it will NEVER get better, only worse.
Cmon guys we didn’t think EA would actually do something good😂
EA? EA had no involvement in this. Only Aspyr Media.
@@mikael9931 then the franchise is cursed I guess
Not EA scum & villainy this time. We have a new threat.... "Ass-Pyre".
This is really disappointing.
Me and my buddy have always dreamed of playing galactic conquest together online. Was hoping we could do so with Steam Remote Play.
I don't know why this series can't catch a break.
IF you're in PC, get the originals. Better everything PLUS mod support.
How the actual fuck do they manage to stuff up a classic game relaunch?!?!?
Do they not playtest the game?! The cutscenes are fucking missing
The worst launch I've ever witnessed the hit detection is horrible
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
at what point does it become false advertising and consumer fraud?
This is way to common and almost “industry standard”
I was reading countless comments saying "I've preordered it! Can't wait!!". It's like watching a trainwreck in slow motion.
I glad I waited to grab this one. Time to keep an eye on the review updates and subreddit to see if fixes even come. This is a punch straight to the childhood
While playing on the Xbox Series X the characters are constantly getting stuck and will not move. You have to constantly respawn your character to complete the game.
I mean it is launch day and I have no experience with the company behind this multiplayer service. I played a good 2 hours of multiplayer and even though I had some descent matches on Xbox, this multiplayer service needs a lot of work. Hopefully they update soon
you know a game is bad when someone who primarily makes halo content says something 😭😭😭 i was so pissed last night
Damn the nostalgia making me pre-order!
At least the offline stuff works
Makes me think no-one making these remakes knows the original games exist, and is ignorant of how they’re loved
I watched a gameplay of this game recently for the Switch and it does have all the original stuff in it including the cut scenes.
I wonder how they'll handle the BFII permanent power ups and elite weapons online (when you get a medal 64 times, you get the powerup the medal gives permanently)
They also stole modded content.