Walther PPQ M2
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Pellet, blow-back, 21 round, 60 shot per cylinder, 400 fps, realistic weight and looks great. Wow, air pistols have come on since my Webley Tempest :D
I have really high hopes for the new magazines. Im waiting for a glock with those, it will be great. Maybe they can do more smgs then too.
dude they have
I had the Webley Vulcan air rifle in the early 80s and I stretched the spring and double sprung it and sparks were flying from the trigger mechanism.
I'm definitely getting one of these. I have an affection for Walther and this gun looks fantastic!
Thanks Andy, always look forward to your review's. Delivered in a very professional manner!!
I FINALLY (after a 3 years of wait already?🤔)got myself one. Bought second hand, for a good price, getting two mags, a Ghost holster and over 60 co2 cartridges along.. Definitely a good buy.
I of course did a total disassembly of everything to begin with. Which was a good thing, due finding 3 stuck pellets within the barrel. I guess the previous owner shot until the co2 ran out totally..😂 After running thru 3 mags worth of pellets, it left me though with a good amount of co2 still to bleed out from the mag, after eventually being on the range with it.
No idea of the original stiff trigger thing, as mine was used when bought, and due all being apart I worked n polished all internal surfaces really smooth. The belt and trigger works very well. The trigger reset is long, as the mechanics require it to be so, but it is just a fantastic shooter imo. The barrel did have a slight wiggle to it when I got it. No idea why, or does it occur on all of these, but I fixed that wiggle also while being at it. The previous owner was an active action/practical shooter, who switched over to the real steel version - but still the belts on both of the magazines seemed to me still to be in very good shape (can but wonder, due hearing stories already of poor belts on these🤔).
Woulda wanted a Q5 Match, but this deal was just too good to pass by.. Still no regrets. Hope it stays that way also...
Excellent review Andy, thank you!
Thanks for the detailed overview and instructions.
Great review as always Andy. Got mine on order at the moment following the arrival of my M9A3 FM last week. Keep up the good work
Wonderful Andy
Seriously tempted to add belt fed to my collection
Thank you for sharing
Another must have gun in my collection, top pellet gun 👌
I been playing with BB .177 and 6mm one and been wanted to go back to Pellets Pistol again because Pellet Blowback Pistol is fun to shoot with.
I have the training .43 paintball version of the Walther ppq. No pun intended, is a blast to shoot. It shoots around 450/500 fps. I know, very hot. But as mentioned, is intended for training. It has an 8 round magazine. You can shoot either .43 caliber paintball, hard rubber rounds, powder rounds, or steel rounds. The fps will vary depending on projectile weight.
Pepper balls too?
@@scoboy_sean Yes, pepper balls too. I have those as well. Although, I have not tried shooting those. But, I will caution, using pepper balls in such a small-caliber pistol, is not as effective as shooting them out of a .68 caliber gun.
Just a note, pepper balls are not UK legal.
Back in the day, I nearly bought an Anics Skif A-3000 because of the belt fed mag,... but the trigger pull put me off. Seems this is all sorted now, and I'm sorely tempted by one of these, or a Sig.
Great review as always Andy
I just did a test with a 1st. Gen PPQ with RWS Hypermax pellets 5.5 Gr.
and got a spread of 445 fps to 438 fps. at 1 Min. between shots a total of 10
and now I can't wait to get the M2 which has more Power,
Excellent Review! Cheers Andy ... only problem is I cant get hold of one thus far ... but will keep trying!
Great review and really good shooting. Thank you.
i might need to order one of these, looks good and seems accurate enough for some safe garden toy soldier shooting.
Le problème avec vous, Andy, est qu'après avoir vu chacune de vos "review" j'ai une envie irrepressible d'acheter le pistolet ou le revolver dont vous avez fait une magistrale démonstration ! Ce ne sont que des jouets pour adultes et bien qu'octogénaire je me sens redevenir le petit garçon qui revait de posseder le webley junior de l'ėpoque. Bravo et continuez å nous faire rever.
merci pour ton commentaire, il y a un enfant en chacun de nous et que cela continue longtemps. c'est un sport très addictif et que nous aimons tous. être prudent. Andy
Andy all your reviews are great you give the best reviews on air CO2 guns every time Thank you very much Sir Andy 🙏🏿🙏🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿💯❤️
A very nice little pistol with excellent accuracy for what it is. I’m interred in one.
So excited, get my first order from Vector later today, all down to you, Andy :) Humble suggestion... Make the reviews be in mono instead of stereo, as the sound currently and in many videos keeps shifting from left to right. Seems to be just the 'studio' segments. Totally only a minor thing, but just thought I'd mention it in case its useful.
Awesome review. Love this video
I'd love to see a loading tool for these mags. I love it that the backstrap, which is replaceable on the real pistol, is used to tighten CO2 hex key
There are two issues with mine (and I've seen others have the same problem so it's not just me). There's a bit of play between the slide and the frame towards the front so there's a slight rattle. The spring that returns the slide is too weak which lowers the lifespan of the gun. Hopefully they'll fix that in the future if they haven't already. It's unfortunate because everything else on this gun is great.
Top video as always... would it be possible to see sighting options for these type of pistols.. thanks...
I’m really excited mine will be here Saturday
Good shooting 👏 and review as usual.
Another great vid cheers
Time for a "belt fed air gun" series where you compare the different belt systems / high cap magazines and how the guns perform.
Thanks for the video. Very interesting!
Outstanding review
I have the first gen ppq and love it, been following this one since it was announced a couple of years ago..still not available in the States yet, but hopefully soon. I think that belt system is by far better than Sigs
Great review as always. One thing that does bother me with this though is the location of the co2 and seems to be the case with many co2 pistols. The location of the co2 in the magazine. I'd like it if it was more like the gamo pt85 set up, can change magazines quickly whilst leaving the co2 canister in the gun. At least if you have spare magazines then it will give you the full feel of operating a pistol the way it should be 👍
The advantage with it being in the mag is that after shooting you can swap the now very cold mag for a warmer one; a significant advantage given CO2 performs best when warm.
Also the magazines on this are metal, so provide a good chunk of thermal mass, slowing the cooling.
The idea is to look like and feel like a real gun, and if it was pointed in your face on the new York subway you would be shaking in your shoes and handing over your valuables.
I would definitely have one of those 👍😎
One the high side for price but I think it is good value for what you get. I bet it would achieve over 2.1 with JCB RS. Great review
p.s did you drive through Bovingdon, Herts yesterday eve. i have a car inn front with number plate AAR and instantly thought of you..lol
keep up the great reviews and insights. cheers
Good review as usual. I like the CO2 in the mag (swap mags for a warm CO2 bulb) but it is a bit of a shame the slide doesn't lock back after the last shot like on the PPK. But I guess you can't have everything.
One thing I'd thought I'd mention though, on older / western style SAO revolvers which do not have the swing out cylinder the "loading port" is usually known as the "gate" or "loading gate". Just thought I'd point that out.😏
I've never heard it called anything besides a "loading gate" on single actions
Great Video
Thanks for the review. I bought this product. Maybe it is my exemplary problem, but belt with pellets are not easily rotating. I have to apply high pressure to trigger to rotate belt, there is no "wall" as a result. So I understand that it is not target gun, but in my SigSauer M17 it works significantly better.
I like umarex try to create something innovative, but this technology is not yet good enough.
Good review
How odd, I was literally offered one of these just as this video was posted.
Keep up the great reviews,
If you could possibly review a hatsan factor please 😊
I’ve the real one in 22lr and it is a lovely gun
Great review as always Andy, I would love to see a review of the new Umarex Smith and Wesson M29 "Dirty Harry's" gun!
I've been waiting for this gun for a while, surprised it isn't in stock yet! I hope Andy reviews it, too
And the hdx68
@@Helleuphoria I e-mailed Pellpax about this gun and they said it should be in stock Late July - Early August.
@@SamK-vk7kb good stuff!
@@SamK-vk7kb thanks! I heard July at some point but I'm now guessing early August, my guess maybe a week or two into it.
nice i,m going to get this one too.
I just might be buying another air gun great review
Super cool! I've been watching you videos nonstop and the production quality is amazing, you should check out the colt commander 1911 from umarex, pretty sweet gun.
same!
my PX4 storm pushes Prometheus Pistol Pellets the Metal wadcutters at 473 fps .
it's also 5 yrs old so it's well broken in the PPQ M2 for the States said 380 fps.
so that means after the first 100 rds . with the same pellets will do over 450+ fps
they'll be here latter this month.
I thinks px4 storm is better than this one, this m2 seems to have many problems. What do you think?
Oh for a replica pellet hold-open-on-last-shot pistol.
Thank you Andy for this one, much appreciated. I would like to see your take on the blow back effects of each gun and rate it if possible. It has so much to do with the overall realism. I don’t see much importance placed on this subject so far from the videos that are out there. Tks… 👍
Bought then looked, got blessed with this one! 🙌
I've only got a couple blowback CO2 pistols, both are versions of my carry guns. I've modified the PPQ for greater blowback force. It uses one CO2 cylinder per magazine now, but does increase the realism noticeably. I also installed a stronger recoil spring.
Hi Andy. Just got mine.I confirm it is addictive.
Andy. Is there anything out there just like this with belt feed and has the cantilever Co2 piercing rather than having to use a hex key etc ? Just thinking I can leave the pistol ungassed and would just be a case of piercing to use , thanks Jon
Love to see a review a thoeben rapid mk2
Great review … 👍🏻… decisions hmm decisions . 😵💫
I love mines but some times the trigger jams and it won't shoot have to pull the trigger a second time and skip the Pellet by the time I've pull the trigger 21 times there would be about 7 pellets that didn't fire . Is there a fix for this problem?
I thought the ppk blow back has the last shot open lock it's not a pellet gun but it does have it👍👌✌️🎯💯🥂
What a shame Umarex sent only a fraction of the prerdered guns to the UK, so many folk with preorders with their local RFD couldn't get this gun, whilst the big box shifter RFDs are sat with unsold units in stock.
all pellet pistols should have this mag system as an option at least if it doesn't become standard
Would it be possible to change the barrel to something a bit longer?
Hi, I believe there are two versions of this gun out there. You mentioned that your gun has a 21 round belt. While others say they have have a 20 round belt. Pyramid stays in their description it has a 20 round belt. I've seen videos on UA-cam that states its a 21 round belt as you do. What I have notice is the guns with the 21 round belts have yellow markings on their barrel sites and the 20 round belt guns have white markings on their site barrels. I also notice the markings are different. On the 20 round guns there is only the Walther marking on the slide..but the 21 round guns have the Walther marking along with the 9mm x 19 marking as well. So I see two different guns advertised. I believe one is sold in a certain market area and the other in the USA.
The M1 fits in to an M2 holster.
What's the trigger like on this one? Is it heavy?
What is model and number of that light / laser? Nice pistol i want one now ...good Andy ...good!
Have you reviewed the Umarex Colt Commander 1911?
I'm deciding whether to get this or the glock 17 gen 5. ?
Please, Andy, can we have reviews other than those for hand held pistols? Thank you.
Amdy has quite the catalog of videos to choose from. If I say so myself.
does the co2 leak over time?
I’m new to Co2 blowback pistols and have just bought this gun, I paid £200 and I think it’s worth every penny in my limited experience, heavy, solid and so well made !!! Seems I made the right choice for my first one ?! Quick question the torch/laser site you showed what is the make of that as I’m looking to get one ??
I do believe that's a knock off of a insight m6
Is this a good option for pedt control?
Looks like this PPQ will fit in my hand as well as my powder burning brother does, I'm going to have a look to see if there are any of these here in the Canadian market soon.
By the way, does this model have a rifled barrel?
A side note here, I've seen and heard so much about the Vector Optics scopes on this channel, that I thought I'd look them up.
Yep, I bought one,, just received it yesterday, and first looking at it out of it's box, I am impressed.
What clear glass, and that reticle,... well you should do yourselves a favor and have a look see
for yourselves.
By the way, does this model have a rifled barrel?
Yes it is
@@McGuinnessful Good to know,... thanks.
The "CZ 75 P- 07 9 ×19 DUTY" bb gun locks open on the last round, great gun, very nicely made, nice weight, balances well in your hand, and shoots like a dream, and the grips, absolutely phenomenal, the gun in my opinion is so good I bought 2 of them, I carry one for a less lethal option to my other gun, it's definitely a beautiful replica! Spot on. If you ever get a second, check this beauty out, I don't think you're going to regret it, it looks like you're staring down the barrel of a 9 mm, the barrel for the BB is reased, BADASS, why I got it, looks absolutely real, and scary.
Thank you for all your great videos! Stay safe my friend 🙏❤️🇺🇲❤️👍
Thank you I have been looking for this info, I am a cz fan and been looking for an honest opinion.
BB guns and pellet guns are entirely different. This one is a pellet gun. I have yet to see a pellet gun that can lock open after the last shot. The reason is in the feeding mechanism. Steel BBs are hard and therefore can be stacked in the magazines and fed like bullets of the real guns. The lock open function is enabled through a tab in the magazine follower. Pellets are made of soft lead and is hollow. They cannot be fed by the magazine follower because they will be crashed by the power of follower spring. Thus currently all pellet guns operate like DA revolvers. Previously they are put in round 8 round magazines which operates exactly the same as revolvers. The current belt feed system works on identical principles, just roaring a belt as opposed to a disk. As you can see as there are no magazine follower, there is no lock open. Also it is the trigger pull that rotates the disk/belt, not the slide. All pellet guns are therefore revolvers in disguise. The blowback feature is entirely for show, it has no real function.
Why people prefer pellets over BBs? Because pellets are inherently more accurate and are less likely to rebound when hitting hard targets. Many clubs do not allow BBs.
Can this be loaded with 4.5mm BB’s instead of pellets ?
nice!
(ever thought of looking at paintball weapons?)
Does anyone know what lazer/light that was on it?
Thanks.
From the belt fed clip's?
Lock open after last shot?
Hi Andy!! From Chicago Illinois, USA🇺🇸
Having a very hard time finding a fine bb gun!!😟
I've got lot's of bb guns. My favourite is a AK47 BB Made with 90 percent real ak47 parts.. Cheers Simon from York England
I'm sure Pyramid Air could help you out. Unless there's been some recent U.S. law change I haven't heard about ( I wouldn't be surprised).
Cabelas, Dicks, Bass pro will ship anywhere in the US.
Andy :watched your Walther PPQM2 review>>purchased the unit>very nice gun BUT the trigger pull is very HARD(I know it has to move the mag belt) but it is a very hard trigger pull>>plus if you do not push the pellets into the belt they jam on the mag side wall>> not sure if there is a remedy for the hard trigger pull/belt feed ?????HELP
Thank you AAR! Love your channel and wonder if you shoot any Crosman's? You just sold me a Walther though!😄 Keep up your great work, cheers from Michigan!
The gun feels great shoots good just no Orange sites
Why does mine sound really loud like a real pistol. I used 12g co2 but sounds so loud
Hello there, I came across with your channel few days ago and I find it very informative.
So based on your knowledge (without knowing if you ever had a chance to use it though) I'd like your opinion on how this is worth to replace my good old Anics Skif A-3000.
Could we actually compare A3000 with PPQ M2?
A3000 has 28 mag while M2 has 21. A3000 can use pellets or bbs (with some good loading attention) but I don't know if M2 can also use bbs...
Sights are adjustable vertical and horizontal for A3000 but only horizontal for M2.
I love the way Umarex combined both pellet and CO2 cartridge in one magazine and the loading system of "chain" mag seems to be almost identical with the pellet loading system of old A3000. However, the A3000 needs a tool to move the magazine to fully load it, the M2 just needs a thumb.
PPQ M2 after some use it's said the blowback slide release lever gets a bit loose and it may jam if your thumb is too close to it. Is that true? And the recoil spring does it really fail?
Did you come up with some issues?
I am guessing this gun can not use the pointed rounds, right?
Can you shot BB's out of a pellet gun without damaging it?
Torn between this model and the CP99. I'm leaning more towards the PPQ, unfortunately it seems as though it may be too loud for my garden as there are neighbouring children in the area. Would a suppressor make a difference or does the blowback feature cancel out the attachment? Thanks.
Can't really attach a suppressor to this pistol's barrel. Would need something attached to the accessory rail instead, but I dunno if such thing exists for this model.
Belt fed machineguns were often referred to as chain guns because of the link systems used for the belts and possibly even goes back to the very early Renascence 'machineguns' which were called chain guns which were small black powder canons held together in parallel and connected by a single troff of black powder acting as a fuse for all the canons creating a 'chain reaction'. These are even thought to have been used in the Middle Ages in Asia and later in Europe.
Andy there's a safety recall for this gun, manufacturer says you must return to them as unsafe and can fire if dropped!!
Reading more, its for guns shipped before Sept 2018 so presumably could only be a problem if bought 2nd hand
What’s the rifle in the background?
There is new glock 17gen5 pellet pistol on sale!Let’s have a look?
This is literally a "chain feed", just like the M242 Bushmaster
Where is that outdoor area that you're shooting in? Is that your garden??
I have this model and find a lot of "misfires" after shooting. 21 pulls of the trigger does not equal 21 pellets expelled 🤷♂️
What's the price and how can i buy from where ?
I would love to use this weapon in an air gun only # gun compotation the only problem is that no one has come up with a good shotgun air gun to compete with.
Check out the hatsan Galadian
Hi there, I was just wondering if you’ve had your hands on a CZ SP-01 SHADOW CO2 4.5mm BB?
I’m struggling whether to get this or a GLOCK 17 GEN 4. Any thoughts?
I had the same issue but went for this PPQ M2 in the end, bought an extra 2 magazines and paddle holster and dual mag holder (IMI Defense, Amazon). Ultimately it falls between wanting a lock back slider on last shot and bbs or no lock back and 21 pellets with more power and accuracy. (P.S.. the PPQ M2 can do FA)
@@andrewdavies3584 Thanks sir, I’ll check one out.
HOW can the slide be removed ??
For God's sake Andy! It's okay doing a review on ultra light pellets, but what's the power output of your usual pellets?
I hate when airgun makers don’t make a full blow back slide and only make it move a bit and sell it for so much more than non blowback just make it non blow back or full blow back
The trigger pull is horrific Why ? Before returning I am asking why Tks mate for posting.
Wish I could afford one 🙁
Perhaps they mean fed like a chain ⛓️ gun? Sadly I haven't actually fired a chain gun but I'm guessing that the ammo is held in a chain rather than a regular magazine hence the name?
Why guess, just watch the video that you’re commenting on