Not sure why the Super Tenere is underrated. Today I went down to my local dealership and sat on the following 2016 bikes back to back. KTM 1190, Honda Africa Twin and Yamaha Super Tenere. I can tell you without any reservation that the feel, fit and finish of the Super Tenere was miles above the other two bikes mentioned. Still not sure why the bike is underrated.
@markbeermonster After I went down I straight away thought, 'How many parts have I broken?" and that I wouldn't be able to ride it. This is very well designed protection.
That's the point, it's not best for them. They think it is best for them. However if we were talking about the old Beemer system then I would agree with you without hesitation. The Yammy system on this bike is just sooo good.
So what it comes down to is that you think you are right and you are going to tell me that I am wrong. If an ABS system is outstanding it shouldn't need to be switched off. You may wish to see the other videos in this series, including the Dirt Test. In short I have ridden thousands of dirt kilometres on the bike and it has the best abs system I have experienced and shits all over Beemer technology. I never once considered that I needed to switch it off. Even on very steep dirt hills.
I hear people talk of the radiator all the time. I like where Yamaha put it. I see bikes like the New Triumph 1200 and the radiator is right behind the front wheel exposed. While it gets a lot of cool air there, I can see rocks, sticks, and other crap being sprayed up from the front wheel. Looks like a recipe for failure. Its good to know the Super T can take a good drop. If you ride on the dirt, its only a matter of time before you drop a bike, so its good to have some protection.
It was an interesting discussion. Basically he likes his beemer and can't accept that ABS has moved on considerably. But an interesting development has been the release of the KTM1190, official tomorrow 2/10/12, where ABS can easily be switched on and off. Look forward to testing the ABS on that bike. :) hopefully not in slime.
@edog200 If its like the slime we get here (Texas) its real easy to go right down just like you did. That stuff is slick. When I took physics in school, we did many problems like "A 5 kg mass is sliding on a frictionless surface..." That moss is what they used to make that surface frictionless. Glad you and the bike were ok.
I just dumped mine on the left side at very low speed. The plastic guard and my saddle bag took all the damage. I sanded the guard and painted it and touched up the small spot on the bag. Good as new!
I was at recent bike show ( cold edmonton) and was concerned about those plastic guards on the bike...very impressed by your crash, glad just your pride injured.
@dizzzave357 I know exactly what went wrong, it was a front wheel wash out where there was no traction. ABS and traction control on the Yammy is the best in the business it is bloody fantastic, but it's no miracle cure for me being dumb.
Your just too good for me. I choose not to respond because I've heard this stuff before and just because he is a Yamaha dealer it doesn't make him sensible, rational or an authority. There will always be motorcycle purists who want to be in full control of all dynamics of a bike. This (the choice of how good the ABS is) has less to do with reality and more to do with perception. For my money, the ABS on the Super Ten is outstanding and there are very few riders who should ride without it.
I have no relationship with Yamaha. I comment on the bike as I see it and feel it. ABS is outstanding and shits all over Beemers. As for the crash, people will make up their own minds. Considering how hard I fell the result was excellent. I didn't suggest it was indestructible. Not a beemer rider are you?
it seemed like a bigger dip than expected- hidden--plus water -plus slime- plus--wonder if forks too stiff--why did some genius not think about that--all of the above ? ? ?
Nice report, and great use of the "unexpected get-off." Glad you're mostly ok, too. Did the wheel lock up, or was it just the slime you hit? Too, was ABS on or off?
ouch i can feel the pulled muscle in the leg..would it have aquaplaned the front wheel, as you seemed to be leaning back more? this is the most important review as embarrassing moments can happen , usually for me at slow or no speed...glad it (and you, i'm presuming) took the dive well. probably one of the few times someone gets to dive 'out of the water' lol... . i'm picking mine up (i mean collecting it from the dealer : ) ) very soon..looking forward to it..well done mate!!
Further, the Yamaha dealer is stuck between a rock and a hard place. He wants to sell units and he wants to make sure the bike suits the broadest demographic/ego he can. If he says the ABS is the ducks guts, some purist will come out of the wood work, no, not ABS, we want autonomy. The best sales strategy is to try not to scare the horses. Please don't try to sell him as an authority, there is a huge component of self-interest in that equation.
t seemed like a bigger dip than expected-- hidden---- water -- slime--- plus---wonder if forks too stiff--why didnt some genius not think about that--all of the above ? ? ?
had to happen sooner or later with the riding and conditions the way they were,saw a ktm cross a wet wooden bridge and lose the front end this stuff can happen at anytime as long as we as riders can walk away money can cure the bike
great video just a question would you recomend this bike for a newbie? im just starting in this sport. i also was concern about dropping the bike as i said im new so i was like what if i get this bike and i crash in the first day is gonna be a pitty to scratch it the first day lol but i feel way more secure due to your video so then is this bike a good start or shuld i look for something less powerful or a second hand? thanks alot.
Olá, tenho uma 2012 e fui trocar por uma DX, você que tem ideia de trocar por uma, primeiro veja se tem na loja, pois estou esperando a 2 meses reclamei no SAC da yamaha, foi a mesma coisa que nada, estão se lixando para o cliente. Liguei mais duas vezes perguntando sobre a entrega e a atendente falou que estava sobre analise, estão analisando oque, sendo que pague à vista.
oops.....Now a review of the gear you were wearing? Why did this happen, was there some slime under the water? Looks like the front tire just completely lost all traction, nasty, glad your OK. looks like your left hip might be a different color for a while.
Not sure why the Super Tenere is underrated. Today I went down to my local dealership and sat on the following 2016 bikes back to back. KTM 1190, Honda Africa Twin and Yamaha Super Tenere. I can tell you without any reservation that the feel, fit and finish of the Super Tenere was miles above the other two bikes mentioned. Still not sure why the bike is underrated.
It has great front forks. I really liked riding it.
@markbeermonster After I went down I straight away thought, 'How many parts have I broken?" and that I wouldn't be able to ride it. This is very well designed protection.
That's the point, it's not best for them. They think it is best for them. However if we were talking about the old Beemer system then I would agree with you without hesitation. The Yammy system on this bike is just sooo good.
So what it comes down to is that you think you are right and you are going to tell me that I am wrong. If an ABS system is outstanding it shouldn't need to be switched off. You may wish to see the other videos in this series, including the Dirt Test.
In short I have ridden thousands of dirt kilometres on the bike and it has the best abs system I have experienced and shits all over Beemer technology. I never once considered that I needed to switch it off. Even on very steep dirt hills.
@dave6ix You can see the tyre going into some dark slime. That stuff was slipperier than ice! My hip is a very nice blacky blue colour! Gear OK.
such a fantastic engineering this plastic guards are amazing!
congratz for the video
@livn59 Those guards are brilliant and do the job.
I hear people talk of the radiator all the time. I like where Yamaha put it. I see bikes like the New Triumph 1200 and the radiator is right behind the front wheel exposed. While it gets a lot of cool air there, I can see rocks, sticks, and other crap being sprayed up from the front wheel. Looks like a recipe for failure.
Its good to know the Super T can take a good drop. If you ride on the dirt, its only a matter of time before you drop a bike, so its good to have some protection.
It was an interesting discussion. Basically he likes his beemer and can't accept that ABS has moved on considerably. But an interesting development has been the release of the KTM1190, official tomorrow 2/10/12, where ABS can easily be switched on and off. Look forward to testing the ABS on that bike. :) hopefully not in slime.
@edog200 If its like the slime we get here (Texas) its real easy to go right down just like you did. That stuff is slick. When I took physics in school, we did many problems like "A 5 kg mass is sliding on a frictionless surface..." That moss is what they used to make that surface frictionless.
Glad you and the bike were ok.
I just dumped mine on the left side at very low speed. The plastic guard and my saddle bag took all the damage. I sanded the guard and painted it and touched up the small spot on the bag. Good as new!
Good tip!
I was at recent bike show ( cold edmonton) and was concerned about those plastic guards on the bike...very impressed by your crash, glad just your pride injured.
@abscrete This is a fantastic bike for the experienced rider. I would suggest you start on a Tenere or Suzuki DR650.
@dizzzave357 I know exactly what went wrong, it was a front wheel wash out where there was no traction. ABS and traction control on the Yammy is the best in the business it is bloody fantastic, but it's no miracle cure for me being dumb.
@kwakas4ever Ah Kwakas! I've heard they do pretty well for a double, once you ge the rotation speed right.
@AllanHP I'm a dirt rider by trade. I don't know what I was thinking.
Your just too good for me. I choose not to respond because I've heard this stuff before and just because he is a Yamaha dealer it doesn't make him sensible, rational or an authority. There will always be motorcycle purists who want to be in full control of all dynamics of a bike. This (the choice of how good the ABS is) has less to do with reality and more to do with perception. For my money, the ABS on the Super Ten is outstanding and there are very few riders who should ride without it.
I have no relationship with Yamaha. I comment on the bike as I see it and feel it. ABS is outstanding and shits all over Beemers. As for the crash, people will make up their own minds. Considering how hard I fell the result was excellent. I didn't suggest it was indestructible. Not a beemer rider are you?
@discomotorbikeman yeah you are right I will start slowly. :)
@th0r90 it wasn't aquaplaning. It was slime.
it seemed like a bigger dip than expected- hidden--plus water -plus slime- plus--wonder if forks too stiff--why did some genius not think about that--all of the above ? ? ?
Summer crossings=slime, never turn the bars in a crossing.
@edog200 Yeah!!!! :) thanks mate.
Nice report, and great use of the "unexpected get-off." Glad you're mostly ok, too. Did the wheel lock up, or was it just the slime you hit? Too, was ABS on or off?
ouch i can feel the pulled muscle in the leg..would it have aquaplaned the front wheel, as you seemed to be leaning back more? this is the most important review as embarrassing moments can happen , usually for me at slow or no speed...glad it (and you, i'm presuming) took the dive well. probably one of the few times someone gets to dive 'out of the water' lol... . i'm picking mine up (i mean collecting it from the dealer : ) ) very soon..looking forward to it..well done mate!!
Further, the Yamaha dealer is stuck between a rock and a hard place. He wants to sell units and he wants to make sure the bike suits the broadest demographic/ego he can. If he says the ABS is the ducks guts, some purist will come out of the wood work, no, not ABS, we want autonomy. The best sales strategy is to try not to scare the horses. Please don't try to sell him as an authority, there is a huge component of self-interest in that equation.
Pretty low speed & on smooth wet tarmac. Interesting to see results after same or slightly higher speed on a dirt track.
@edog200 thanks alot great videos.
@zypp33 Sore hip for a couple of weeks.
t seemed like a bigger dip than expected-- hidden---- water -- slime--- plus---wonder if forks too stiff--why didnt some genius not think about that--all of the above ? ? ?
Just not perfect like..........u
im gonna tell my mom u said that---------JAFO
had to happen sooner or later with the riding and conditions the way they were,saw a ktm cross a wet wooden bridge and lose the front end this stuff can happen at anytime as long as we as riders can walk away money can cure the bike
Ego is a funny thing.
nice vid, impressed with the bikes solidity, were you OK?!
great video just a question would you recomend this bike for a newbie? im just starting in this sport. i also was concern about dropping the bike as i said im new so i was like what if i get this bike and i crash in the first day is gonna be a pitty to scratch it the first day lol but i feel way more secure due to your video so then is this bike a good start or shuld i look for something less powerful or a second hand? thanks alot.
Man, you tried to put your foot on the ground at that speed with a relatively heavy bike, you are lucky you didn't blow your knee.
Olá, tenho uma 2012 e fui trocar por uma DX, você que tem ideia de trocar por uma, primeiro veja se tem na loja, pois estou esperando a 2 meses reclamei no SAC da yamaha, foi a mesma coisa que nada, estão se lixando para o cliente. Liguei mais duas vezes perguntando sobre a entrega e a atendente falou que estava sobre analise, estão analisando oque, sendo que pague à vista.
What caused the crash?
The Tenere has both ABS and traction control, it would be nice to know what went wrong.
It was an Oxford fall
@abscrete Hay M E X I C O! welcome aboard my friend!
That crossing can get very slippery...I know it well
@99Bonzo After 36 years of riding I had been indoctrinated into that club for sometime, but it was good to get a referesher course. :-)
oops.....Now a review of the gear you were wearing? Why did this happen, was there some slime under the water? Looks like the front tire just completely lost all traction, nasty, glad your OK. looks like your left hip might be a different color for a while.
Question is: where am i gonna get the money to buy one of these?
what's the name of this song?
l'accent de fou!!! j'adore!
nell' acqua è un ottimo test.. ma famm u piacer fa !!!!
@dizzzave357 ABS and TC are not God. They don't do miracles. You will hurt yourself if you think otherwise...
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