Dylan, Chrysler adapted and perfected the tortion bar suspension from building tanks during WWII. Alot of people don't realize that fact. When Daimler purchased Chrysler, it was a union of former enemies, as Daimler also built tanks in WWII for Germany. Irony at it's best...
Amazing video, very well explained. Better than 99% of videos out there. Please keep videos like this coming. You have no idea how much you are helping people.
Dude, I don't know how I found your channel but it's one of the best I've watched since Roadkill went of youtube. Makes me want to get my Gramps 1982 F100 running again, hopefully before I get my licence. Keep making these videos man, they are honestly brilliant.
You're supposed to wear your glasses and a lab coat when presenting educational videos, Dylan. Seriously though, this was a great show on how torsion bars work. I had a '78 Newport with the same set up, though she had a slight lean. I was fortunate enough to find an independent shop that had the experience of repairing them. Somewhere in the car's past it had been lifted or jacked up in the wrong place, and the bar was bent. But in about an hour(including a new bar and alignment), the car was handling and braking a whole lot better. So, long story short, knowing your way around your car is beneficial. Thanks Dylan for bringing great content, it's cool to see young people actually working with their hands on classic cars.
Remember, torsion bars twist, and can snap. I have personally seen them snap without warning. As stated in the video, always support the car with jack stands before adjusting. Do not scratch or put dings in the torsion bar as this could start a stress crack. I notice the torsion bar is very close to the header. I hope there is enough clearance so that the header does not hit the torsion bar.
Procedure basically the same for A,B,C bodies. Another video on the same lowering technique sowed 5 full turns of the 3/4 bolt ONLY gave 3/8 lowering, but he did not let the car settle either. So good thing
yes, the static alignment will change when you change ride height, so you always set ride height first. Your model with the wrenches lacked ball joints, so it really didn't represent what happens. Unequal length control arms move the spindle in an arc where the camber changes during the arc.
I used to adjust the bars on my 71 charger right on the side of the road to lift the front end all the way up to take it off road then adjust them down again after getting back to pavement, needless to say I went through tires really fast on the front.
Below my 1973 Plymouth Satellite is almost the same torsion bar suspension system. I can also adjust the upper control arm to change the stand of the wheel so it sits right if i lower or higher the ride hight. Maybe this also works for your Dodge as a Plymouth is of the Chrysler Company too.
Torsion bars are a main reason why the stunt guys preferred jumping mopars. There are quite a few episodes of the Dukes of Hazzard where the car’s front end is oddly high. In the Dukesfest extra on the season 2 DVD, it is very noticeable on the General Lee jump.
I know torsion bar has been used in modern suspension; but for some reason I associated it to a steering system and not the leaf or coil system. I remember my Dad told me his friends would adjust the torsion bars and it worked well. So my guess is that it works in modern day in conjunction with the coils or leaf springs??? Again, as a kid I assumed leaf and coil springs took over.
Excellent information. I'm working on my buddies 1969 roadrunner. I'm doing a complete rebuild and a disc brake conversion with new spindles. How do I find out factory ride height. The front end was worn slap out and way out of alignment. My first experience with a Mopar, so I'm learning. Thank you for a informative video. Very well done. Thanks.
Back in the day we had a '57 Chrysler New Yorker 4DHT. One evening in the early sixties while we were watching TV we heard a big bang from outside and then a little while later another. We went out the next morning to find that both torsion bars had shattered.
I have a 73 Cuda and needed to lower my front so the tires wouldn't rub on the front fenders. They were really stuck but with leverage was able to move them. The front end went down and no more tire rub. However, I went back and looked up some information and looked under the car. The Drivers side bolt was a lot lower than the passenger side. Yet when I measured the fenders they seemed fairly close to the same from the top to the ground. Underneath, by the control. They were a different distance to the floor. Is is better to get it the same on the control arms or fender? Very good explanation of the suspension. I did take it on a short drive and haven't had the time to measure it again. By the way I have a 68 Charger. My father back in the 60's raised the torsion bars so that when we went home over gravel roads that had high ruts in it that it would not bottom out. It is still high but looks kind of cool that way. Should I adjust them down?
Like the Video.. I've always liked my 68 Dodge Dart, to have enough rake on it to make Water come off the windshield about half way up the glass.. also at speed, pushed car down a bit and more stable.. freeway driven everyday.. peace
You have taken your lessons, men. Thumb up! Im surprised they havent used an u-shaped torsion bar as they are common on the most european vehicles. But behind the big pond things happen a bit different. Now i suggest to change this weird fan shroud to one with a proper air flow.
easier way to know the rides height change, unhook the sway-bar & then bound the front a few times. that's what we did in the nascar cup series on the setup plates or shop
Adjust them.. measure the height at fender.. Drive.. go over stuff.. get out Measure.. adjust again.. ad 3/4 -1/2 inch higher on driver side so it looks level when your inside driving.. Repeat All Steps.. until your happy... lastly Ask Fat friend to get in.. so Passenger side will drop.. Repeat All steps with heavy buddy.. adjust again.. measure again.. done.. Be Stoked.. your driving Mopar.. Daily driven 68 Dodge Dart..
I have a 2002 Chevy Tahoe. I saw the bar with the hexagon as I went up to the front I did not see the crossmember that looks like yours with the bolt. My neighbor who I bought it from says I can lower that truck he did it. Since he is an older man he won't go under to look at it. Is it possible on those trucks for me to do it?
I have a loose torsion bar on my 85 caddy. I can feel it loose in my front driver wheel when I have my foot in the floor(vibration) I redid my whole suspension but the last thing I didn’t check was the bar. If Tighten it will it also tighten the bar from shaking? Doesn’t appear to be broken. Do these get loose over time?
Hey i recently came across your UA-cam channel i love it , i was wondering would you know anywhere to get floor panels for a 1979 gmc Sierra 1500 because its rusted in the inside on the floor
love it man greetings from Lebanon i have a 1973 Dodge Charger SE 400 - 4 speeds , i wonder how much travel would a one complete spin do to the ride height , mine is sitting great but there is a difference in ride height at the back of the car (between left rear wheel and right rear wheel about 2 cm ) don't know if it's from torsion bars adjusting or leaf springs since car sat for 16 years and only moved twice a year )
When I've got mine jacked up to tighten that bolt it's not sitting in one position like yours it was moving around as I tightened it, is that normal? Am I missing something? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Dylan, Chrysler adapted and perfected the tortion bar suspension from building tanks during WWII. Alot of people don't realize that fact. When Daimler purchased Chrysler, it was a union of former enemies, as Daimler also built tanks in WWII for Germany. Irony at it's best...
Your Awesome Buddy.. Ironic indeed,.. I like reminding my buddies that No One Killed more Nazis then Ma Chrysler.. Amen..
@@AtZero138 Actually the Russian T34's did ...
Amazing video, very well explained. Better than 99% of videos out there. Please keep videos like this coming. You have no idea how much you are helping people.
Hey Dylan I love the channel keep up the good work
Dude, I don't know how I found your channel but it's one of the best I've watched since Roadkill went of youtube. Makes me want to get my Gramps 1982 F100 running again, hopefully before I get my licence. Keep making these videos man, they are honestly brilliant.
The Charger's coming along very well, I can't wait to see it finished! I really enjoy watching your channel, thanks again for another great video!
same here , need to finish one project then move to the next Dylan
Love the videos. By the way, VW is another company widely known for torsion bar suspensions on mass production vehicles (Beetle, etc).
Very cool - love the T-bar system on my MoPar's
You're supposed to wear your glasses and a lab coat when presenting educational videos, Dylan. Seriously though, this was a great show on how torsion bars work. I had a '78 Newport with the same set up, though she had a slight lean. I was fortunate enough to find an independent shop that had the experience of repairing them. Somewhere in the car's past it had been lifted or jacked up in the wrong place, and the bar was bent. But in about an hour(including a new bar and alignment), the car was handling and braking a whole lot better. So, long story short, knowing your way around your car is beneficial. Thanks Dylan for bringing great content, it's cool to see young people actually working with their hands on classic cars.
Remember, torsion bars twist, and can snap. I have personally seen them snap without warning. As stated in the video, always support the car with jack stands before adjusting. Do not scratch or put dings in the torsion bar as this could start a stress crack. I notice the torsion bar is very close to the header. I hope there is enough clearance so that the header does not hit the torsion bar.
Sooooo many engineering benefits to the torsion bar system.
Excellence in Engineering
Mopar all the way!!! Keep 'em Up-N-Runnin.
This was a big help. I just got a 1972 Charger that someone lowered and it needs to be raised about 1/2 inch
It really made my day to see my car as "featured vehicle " thanks !
Procedure basically the same for A,B,C bodies. Another video on the same lowering technique
sowed 5 full turns of the 3/4 bolt ONLY gave 3/8 lowering, but he did not let the car settle either. So good thing
Love the car's mate and also love your videos you put up on here.
All the way from Outback Australia.
Mopar or no car! Great vid Dylan
Also, I learned what Torsion Bar Suspension was watching The Chieftain (Nick Moran) talk about tanks :)
yes, the static alignment will change when you change ride height, so you always set ride height first. Your model with the wrenches lacked ball joints, so it really didn't represent what happens. Unequal length control arms move the spindle in an arc where the camber changes during the arc.
I used to adjust the bars on my 71 charger right on the side of the road to lift the front end all the way up to take it off road then adjust them down again after getting back to pavement, needless to say I went through tires really fast on the front.
Below my 1973 Plymouth Satellite is almost the same torsion bar suspension system. I can also adjust the upper control arm to change the stand of the wheel so it sits right if i lower or higher the ride hight. Maybe this also works for your Dodge as a Plymouth is of the Chrysler Company too.
Great info and presented in a professional manner! Video production and editing are awesome! I look forward to the next video! Keep-on-keeping on!
Torsion bars are a main reason why the stunt guys preferred jumping mopars. There are quite a few episodes of the Dukes of Hazzard where the car’s front end is oddly high. In the Dukesfest extra on the season 2 DVD, it is very noticeable on the General Lee jump.
Long live MOPAR!
I know torsion bar has been used in modern suspension; but for some reason I associated it to a steering system and not the leaf or coil system. I remember my Dad told me his friends would adjust the torsion bars and it worked well. So my guess is that it works in modern day in conjunction with the coils or leaf springs??? Again, as a kid I assumed leaf and coil springs took over.
Excellent information.
I'm working on my buddies 1969 roadrunner. I'm doing a complete rebuild and a disc brake conversion with new spindles.
How do I find out factory ride height. The front end was worn slap out and way out of alignment. My first experience with a Mopar, so I'm learning. Thank you for a informative video. Very well done. Thanks.
Yeah. I might have learned that lesson about alignment on a '72 Newport...and about eight chewed up tires...
Back in the day we had a '57 Chrysler New Yorker 4DHT. One evening in the early sixties while we were watching TV we heard a big bang from outside and then a little while later another. We went out the next morning to find that both torsion bars had shattered.
5:55 torsion bar looks bent. Are those the originals? Consider hotchkis bars they are bigger diameter and made from better hard spring steel.
I have a 73 Cuda and needed to lower my front so the tires wouldn't rub on the front fenders. They were really stuck but with leverage was able to move them. The front end went down and no more tire rub. However, I went back and looked up some information and looked under the car. The Drivers side bolt was a lot lower than the passenger side. Yet when I measured the fenders they seemed fairly close to the same from the top to the ground. Underneath, by the control. They were a different distance to the floor. Is is better to get it the same on the control arms or fender? Very good explanation of the suspension. I did take it on a short drive and haven't had the time to measure it again.
By the way I have a 68 Charger. My father back in the 60's raised the torsion bars so that when we went home over gravel roads that had high ruts in it that it would not bottom out. It is still high but looks kind of cool that way. Should I adjust them down?
why no more updates?
Hey Dylan nice to see you again thank you for the video I enjoyed it
What a blessing. Thanks for the upload. Very helpful.
Great video as always, man!
Certainly is a 'Good Friday' video!
Porsche 911's also used torsion bars for decades.
There is no substitute
Ron G correct along with VW
Like the Video.. I've always liked my 68 Dodge Dart, to have enough rake on it to make Water come off the windshield about half way up the glass.. also at speed, pushed car down a bit and more stable.. freeway driven everyday.. peace
My Datsun/Nissan Minitrucks all got torsion bars up front, love em cuz of how easy it is to lower.
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Excellent job!
God Bless!
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Doing this on my sport satellite. Need to bring the front down a half inch. They left it a little high when I had my floors done.
You have taken your lessons, men. Thumb up! Im surprised they havent used
an u-shaped torsion bar as they are common on the most european vehicles.
But behind the big pond things happen a bit different.
Now i suggest to change this weird fan shroud to one with a proper air flow.
great video n job brother love it god bless
Best intro ever
Great refresher course on torsion bars
easier way to know the rides height change, unhook the sway-bar & then bound the front a few times. that's what we did in the nascar cup series on the setup plates or shop
I wish I could do this. My dream car. One year I will have one
Great video, great explanation of the torsion bar .Mopar all the way!!
Any new updates about this Charger 🤔
Here at work..being reaaaly productive watching dylan. Ha
Big help to me
Thank you.
Finally new video bro ♥️♥️
What did you paint the rims with? They look 👌
Looks great up high in the front!
Thanks, I need to raise my dart about 3/4 of an inch .. easy enough ..
Adjust them.. measure the height at fender.. Drive.. go over stuff.. get out Measure.. adjust again.. ad 3/4 -1/2 inch higher on driver side so it looks level when your inside driving.. Repeat All Steps.. until your happy... lastly Ask Fat friend to get in.. so Passenger side will drop.. Repeat All steps with heavy buddy.. adjust again.. measure again.. done.. Be Stoked.. your driving Mopar.. Daily driven 68 Dodge Dart..
Wow, it's already been a year n a half? Time flys when your having fun!
Great video very good information thanks
Great help
Some great theory and info there Dylan.
Only two more months to power tour, better get cracking!! Good luck bud!
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Love you and thunderhead289 channels!
Very informative thanks
I have a 2002 Chevy Tahoe. I saw the bar with the hexagon as I went up to the front I did not see the crossmember that looks like yours with the bolt.
My neighbor who I bought it from says I can lower that truck he did it. Since he is an older man he won't go under to look at it. Is it possible on those trucks for me to do it?
I have a loose torsion bar on my 85 caddy. I can feel it loose in my front driver wheel when I have my foot in the floor(vibration) I redid my whole suspension but the last thing I didn’t check was the bar. If Tighten it will it also tighten the bar from shaking? Doesn’t appear to be broken. Do these get loose over time?
Hey i recently came across your UA-cam channel i love it , i was wondering would you know anywhere to get floor panels for a 1979 gmc Sierra 1500 because its rusted in the inside on the floor
Thanks man really useful video. 👍
love it man greetings from Lebanon i have a 1973 Dodge Charger SE 400 - 4 speeds , i wonder how much travel would a one complete spin do to the ride height , mine is sitting great but there is a difference in ride height at the back of the car (between left rear wheel and right rear wheel about 2 cm ) don't know if it's from torsion bars adjusting or leaf springs since car sat for 16 years and only moved twice a year )
Just adjust the opposite side front torsion bar and that will get the rear looking even on both sides.
So which way are you going to run it? I Like It Low I think it looks good with the top of the tire tucked a little⛽💲🇺🇸🗽
When I've got mine jacked up to tighten that bolt it's not sitting in one position like yours it was moving around as I tightened it, is that normal? Am I missing something? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Very nice video , Mopar or No car , and that's all I got to say about that....
Spring Sag.....? Ask a Chevy guy.. wheel Hop.. Ask a Chevy guy.. Mopar Forever
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And how is it with the aft of the car?...can you lower it and raise it somehow?...
Nice
Hi guys, I would like to restore a car, it would be my first one, would you consider a Chevy Nova a good beginners car?
Very awesome video my friend.
ive got a '69 Charger (the General Lee) the front on my Charger is too high
THE NEXT CAR ???
Beautiful car!
Does the charger have a exhaustsystem now?
Is this car still being worked on? I never followed something so vigorously.
Im going from a slant 6 to a 383. I was told I would have to replace my torsion bars..is that correct?
Mopar or no car
that demon is the second one I've sighted in my 58 years
rare rod
Where Dodge...?) he still living...?))
Андрей К I’m curious, does Russia have old dodges like this one and does America have old Ladas like Russia does. I really want a lada and a dodge.
@@jumpiko4553 I think there is, even for sure
I know that they used this type of suspension on tanks.
No one answers questions on this channel 😬
Sheriff in the C Body
why is it taking you over a year? to fix the charger
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Very informative than you
You didnt show how to make it level
You should paint that baby
Que Royo wey
improper tread wear? bad handling? stress on my bearings? but muh camber!
Green demon
Snapped a few in my time … lol
I'm gonna look for a coil conversion setup someday for mine.
69 super bee here. Subscribed and liked. Thanks.
So Clearly Articulate --- you should be an Instructor thank you Billy
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