Ancient Semitic II: The Semitic Languages within the Afro-Asiatic Phylum

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  • @oldreddragon1579
    @oldreddragon1579 11 місяців тому +6

    Imagine how many languages that no longer exist that show linking transformations.

    • @xspydazx
      @xspydazx 4 місяці тому +1

      many are preserved in various african cultures

    • @xspydazx
      @xspydazx 2 місяці тому

      you would be suprised that they DO still exist in africa ! so important to understand ; as the bantu language has connection but it is not FULL ! but the tigrayan has a deeper connection to the earlest words : as well as i would suspect all african languages and ancient tongues are catered for in the hierglyphs as it was said that enoch the creator of writing ( learned in heaven itself how to write ) hence the muist be a lanugage which contains all words and all sounds from every language: so i THINK! that heirglyphs was this attempt to contain the world in a single set of phonestics and words ! < hence they are ot european at all and have not conenction but they are central african as aell as asian which also came after : the sumarian scratchings lol ! they fake archologists seem to belive that many people could read these texts , but they are not descriptive or respresntative of their symbol to sound ! .... so in fact its a compleatly forigien or alien language: as you know eveyr world language was devloped from heirglyphs or symbols or Pictographs and these have no representive connection to any image making it secular !
      so we caould say that ALL language and it representation was created in Egypt .. so evey culture who entered egypt , was able to use the heirglyphs to write they language and then any egyptian was able to read it ! and understand the language even if it was not their tonguge as the pictography was still representatavie of the word !
      hence ( He Flew, He Jumped ) etc these are true translations as we know the earleast people , may have indeed been some advaced or extra tersetrials : even giants : and hindu myth also has a lot of reference to people who flew or saw other flying !
      so it make sense these words would also be contained in the panthon of words !
      So in truth it could be that the tigreann languge may contain a BULK of the words as the PEOPLE do Represent faithfully the middle period of egytp by thier tombs and artwork , where as prior to them were the Arro ORma tribes and even prior to them we the slim massai and dinka and Watiutsi <
      the tigryan region is a NUBIAN Region as you should Know Adamala is also a nubia language.. the word nubiann just is a european word and not a word we used to describe our selves but they way they are using it it denotes all just above africa ( from ethiopia to iraq ) peoples as it also encompases KUSH ! which is from the regio of somalia to iraq ! even into southern india ! ...
      hence you will note all Kushites are ( afro Asians ) ( ethiopians somalians ertrians , tanzanians etc )

  • @abdullahali7237
    @abdullahali7237 3 роки тому +7

    We really like your videos
    Especially the short ones 7-20 minutes as maximum
    Im against making tall videos to people who want details
    But we also want those shorts like old days
    Love your videos 🌷❤️

    • @comandanteej
      @comandanteej 3 роки тому +3

      I like these long ones too. These are basically lectures, they go deep into the topic and give an exhaustive introduction to the topics they are about. I did not watch them all at once but in multiple pieces. Maybe they are just a bit slow at places, could be somewhat faster and shorter, like 1h, to convey the same content.

    • @13thdivision70
      @13thdivision70 2 роки тому

      I don't like your pfp

  • @claudialangus
    @claudialangus Місяць тому +1

    Thank you so much for your videos, they are very informative

  • @zimriel
    @zimriel Рік тому +3

    Algerian here. There's no real debate in Algeria about Tamazight / Berber being separate languages in a language-family. The "Qabyle" / "Taqbaylit" language diverged from the others a long time ago, Bronze Age is what we were taught. Nobody in the Kabylia will be able to speak to a Tuareg (say) unless they agree to speak in French.
    Morocco might be different on account the Riffian languages there are much more closely-related to each other (and to Tuareg).
    I've heard about another one called Zenaga but I know very little about it.

    • @xspydazx
      @xspydazx 4 місяці тому

      obviously the African languages of the region are Mali and Bambara and Chadic !( a nubio Khemetic language ( nubian ))

  • @shlomomarkman6374
    @shlomomarkman6374 2 роки тому +5

    1:00:00 Didn't know that. Can explain some strange roots in Hebrew, the S (or in this case the shin) got swallowed in or replaces a weak first consonant, usually those roots denote a verb that causes someone to do something. There are new 4 letter roots that are based on adding the S to existing root with the same purpose

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  2 роки тому +1

      Exactly. There are relics of that original causative-S in those Semitic languages that weakened it to H or Aleph.

    • @kobikaicalev175
      @kobikaicalev175 Рік тому +1

      I thought this is some kind of Akkadian loan patterns in Hebrew

  • @xspydazx
    @xspydazx 4 місяці тому +1

    Againn that researcher missed the bantu language which has direct conection to the hieroglyphic period as well the coptic periods : hence connecting the two regions hammatic and semetic:
    It was common for a group to use the Egyptian Script to write their own history's down in thier own languages :
    We also seem to have forgottoon the mother of the shemetic languages Sanskrit ? ( containing urdu and punjabi , hindi and taml )( all dialects )

  • @stevenv6463
    @stevenv6463 2 роки тому +5

    13:30 this idea of classifying Negroids and Caucasoids on the basis of who is leading society was part of the idea of distinguishing between the Tutsi and the other ethnic group in Rwanda, right?

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  2 роки тому +3

      Right. The Tutsi were seen as superior to the Hutu by European scholars which led to the assumption that they were originally "'Hamites" migrating to the region and adopting a Bantu language.

    • @elmiawad1777
      @elmiawad1777 2 роки тому +5

      It wasn’t based purely on who was leading; they also noticed significant differences in height, hair texture and skull features between groups in East Africa and some other regions.
      While most of us it was pseudoscience, there are some elements of truth it. When you look at modern DNA test results, one has to admit the 19th century scientists were partially right about the Hamitic theory. Many East African groups, especially Cushitic and Semetic speakers, have almost 50 percent Eurasian DNA. In fact, some of the earliest proto Cushitic would have been 60-70 percent Eurasian.
      Generally speaking, looser hair textures, taller and narrow features, does indicate ancient ancestry from the Egypt, Sudan area. These ancient men spread pastoralist lifestyles and afroasiatic languages across East Africa.
      And yes, the Tutsi do have a genetic relation to East African populations. This is confirmed by oral history and now genetic testing.

    • @xspydazx
      @xspydazx 2 місяці тому

      Tutsi are from egypt and sahara .. they migrated from egypt to the south and hence they took over the hutu teretories ! rwanda @
      as you should know , the hutu peole had a normal african culture as in the sumer they lived in the forests with the bees and good foods and in the winter and rsain they came back to thier permenant camps !
      when the egyptian were invased the tutsi tribes migrated downwards towards kenya and uganda and burundi and rwanda etc: this migration is also known to bantu tribe which also absorbed some :
      they came to rwanda and the people was in the forest tso they took the villages and when the hutu returned they allowed them to share with them : but after a while when the hutu returned the tutsi said this is our land and our homes !
      so even today they are invader culture to the region !
      they were also absorbed in to some of the great lakes r=tribe ad zimbabwe tribes ! hence swahili became and the acceptance of arabs in africa was something that these tribes encouraged as they already could c ommunicate with them as well as knew thier cultures , hence in central africa there is still a heavy arab influence despite there not being many arabs present !
      we also note that sudan was taken over by the arabs again !
      hence they took egypt from the migrating tribe and also assumed the heritage as their won , but they have been treasure seeking the whole time ! so religiously even the other european countrys have held them back down as a primative country !...lol !
      and todaty they are also being ejected from thes african locations !
      by even us or the europeans : sadly most of the somali and tigrayns call themself arabs too ( lost ) ... as well as they ar emuslim ( even more lost)... and today rwanda kagame is also a Watusti holding down the whole region ! Denying the HUt who are called rebels in thier own land !

  • @liquidoxygen819
    @liquidoxygen819 Рік тому +1

    Would you be willing to talk about "Balkan Semitic" and its purported donation of pastoralist terms to Proto-Indo-European?

  • @penelopehope7100
    @penelopehope7100 3 роки тому +1

    Hello, shukran😊, for this prompt video Doc.

  • @HarunaNuhuHamza
    @HarunaNuhuHamza 12 днів тому

    Nice documentary ❤

  • @ተስፋዊዘጽዮን
    @ተስፋዊዘጽዮን 3 роки тому +4

    It was educational, great 👍 video, I can't wait for the next one , and thank you.

  • @mareksagrak9527
    @mareksagrak9527 6 місяців тому +1

    Very insightful video, finally a good introduction to this vast language family.
    The case of Afro-Asiatic numbers makes me wonder. It is possible that some Afro-Asiatic branches have assimilated numbers from other, now extinct languages that existed before them and hence such a strange variety? After all it's possible even for an entire language family to replace its native number system with a foreign one (like for example it was the case with majority of Kra-Dai languages).
    Maybe, for example, Beja numbers came from an otherwise unattested substratum language spoken by a population that has been linguistically assimilated by proto-Beja/Medya? Just a guess.

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  6 місяців тому +2

      Yes, that's a possibility. Prehistoric language contact with a significant time depth might explain some of the huge differences between the different AA branches.

  • @muhammadkaram6819
    @muhammadkaram6819 2 роки тому

    it's good to have you back

  • @jasminekaram880
    @jasminekaram880 Рік тому +2

    Is not PIE typically put at 4000 BC? Or at least thought to have begun splitting up slowly at that time from the step.
    Great video.

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  Рік тому +2

      I think that's one of the different estimates.

    • @ibrohimh9976
      @ibrohimh9976 Рік тому +1

      ​@@AncientSemiticfrom which archaeological culture did the Proto-Semites originate?

  • @zimriel
    @zimriel Рік тому +1

    Next nitpicks:
    - loanwords in EthioSemitic. There is borrowing from Cushitic in Geez, Amharic and others. Those might count as early witnesses from Oromo, Somali &c.
    - Coptic itself existed in several dialects. Bohairic is the liturgical language today. Sahidic - upstream to the south - was the main language of Christianity in Late Antiquity. Also used were Mesokemic (one you mentioned) and Akhmimic although these might just be local dialects of Sahidic or even just spelling-conventions like in English "honor" and "honour".

  • @hmmitj
    @hmmitj 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent Job , Thank you

  • @Strive4Sunnah
    @Strive4Sunnah Рік тому +1

    Hi there, I had a question.
    Why did Ancient Egypt go over many periods of language revision? Was it due to their environment (other languages influencing their own language)? Or was it due to convenience?

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  Рік тому +2

      Every language in the world changes continuously. This happens to all languages. To those that are influenced by other languages and to those that don't.
      Also the spoken language in Egypt changed continuously. At several points in time, Egyptian scribes apparently decided to change the way they wrote in order to adapt the written language to the spoken language.
      This is how Middle Egyptian was created during the 7th Dynasty or so, and then Late Egyptian during the 18th Dynasty, and Demotic during the 26th Dynasty.
      In later times there was foreign language contact, for example Demotic has lots of loanwords from Semitic.
      In earlier times I think it was less foreign influence. Just natural change.

  • @danielvso
    @danielvso 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you for the lecture. Allow me to say that, for a video like that, high definition would be very desirable.

  • @faresmohandyahiaoui6899
    @faresmohandyahiaoui6899 Рік тому

    I think the map is discribing some where around the 18th century cuz the berber areas are larger than present day area

  • @amk2321
    @amk2321 Рік тому +1

    Questions:
    1. Do you know what the parent language of Amharic was and how much does old Amharic differ from modern Amharic ?
    2. Do you have access to old Amharic texts / manuscripts which I can get my hands on ?
    3. A bit of a tough one, but what is the genetic origin of Ethio-Semitic speakers ? Are they descendants of Sem or Ham and if they are descended from Ham, then how did they adopt Semitic languages ?
    4. Apart from Argobba, what language does Amharic sound like when spoken ?
    Thanks in advance!

    • @ts777-M
      @ts777-M 10 місяців тому +1

      Amharic's parent language is 100% Tigrigna complete vocabulary with agew properties, Eritreans and Ethiopians are From the line of Cush the word semitic only serves as a confusion to imply several false narratives

    • @anthropos_94
      @anthropos_94 7 місяців тому

      @@ts777-Mso not Ge’ez?

    • @ts777-M
      @ts777-M 7 місяців тому

      ​​@@anthropos_94 no not Geez, remember regarding your question semetic the person who decided to group the languages a s semetic used the logic that since these languages are written in a script also labeled semetic that's semetic then they should be labeled semetic now Ethiopian and Eritreans carry this term ,swahili was first written in arabic what if we go ahead and use the same logic for the language and its speakers, Eritreans and Ethiopians are Cushites from Ham their languages are Cushitic of African origin

    • @brookendale3611
      @brookendale3611 2 місяці тому

      ​@@ts777-Mare you even ethiopian or Eritrean?

    • @brookendale3611
      @brookendale3611 2 місяці тому

      ​@@anthropos_94don't believe everything you read on the internet. But read scholarly opinions, amharic could've descended from geez, tigrigna or a sister language of geez.

  • @Counter-StrikeGO
    @Counter-StrikeGO 3 місяці тому

    What is numeral system in Proto Afro Asiatic? Can you give me 1 to 10?

  • @user-hh2is9kg9j
    @user-hh2is9kg9j 3 роки тому +6

    I wish scholars just search for the truth and not adjust reality to fit what they deem non-racist.

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  3 роки тому +12

      The most important thing is that linguistics focusses on languages, and that linguistic assessment of language relationships is not blurred with considerations on "race" or distorted by unscientific ideas of white surpremacy or black surpremacy or goropism.

    • @qosolka3320
      @qosolka3320 3 роки тому +2

      @@AncientSemitic What’s goropism?

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  3 роки тому +13

      @@qosolka3320
      Goropism is when people claim (without convincing evidence) that their own mother tongue is the oldest language, the mother of all languages etc.
      Goropism is named after the 16th century Dutch scholar Johannes Goropius (Jan van Gorp) who claimed that his local Dutch dialect was the original language of mankind.

    • @YoungSiamun
      @YoungSiamun Рік тому +2

      Well, sorry to offend you but racism is irrational and unscientific so scholars are more than justified in trying to be "non-racist", especially when it comes to linguistic studies, a field in which modern racial classifications should not even be a factor in the pursuit of objective truth.

  • @gazthejaz8910
    @gazthejaz8910 3 роки тому +5

    Ancient Egyptian was Coptic which is a Afro asiatic language

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  3 роки тому +5

      So you've learned something from the video. Very good. :)

    • @gazthejaz8910
      @gazthejaz8910 3 роки тому +1

      @@AncientSemitic yes but it’s just sad that the Coptic language is going extinct with the Arabization that has already happened. Not trying to sound biased but thanks!

    • @stevenv6463
      @stevenv6463 2 роки тому +3

      @@gazthejaz8910 It is sad to see Coptic die but there are a ton of Coptic influences on Egyptian Arabic.

    • @caseyrogers573
      @caseyrogers573 5 місяців тому

      Coptic was a descendant of ancient Egyptian

  • @mesened
    @mesened Рік тому +1

    ሰላም ማይን በስተር ;)

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  Рік тому +1

      ሰላም ኣውኅ ኣን ዲኅ 😄

    • @mesened
      @mesened Рік тому

      @@AncientSemitic 😄😄✌🏾

  • @okechukwuwambu
    @okechukwuwambu 3 місяці тому +1

    Very informative on the Afro- Asiatic languages ? Very misleading title , because of the fact that only one part of that family is spoken outside of Africa. And that language( semitic) has it's roots in Africa . And why do you call Africans who are trying to understand and make connections with african cultures ( Afro - Centric ) ? But you'll quote Europeans talking about(African languages) and call them linguistics experts !! How can peoples live side by side , migrate and move around mixing and not influence each other ( doesn't make sense ) .
    Furthermore the People you call Ancient Egyptian did not call themselves that name . They called themselves Kmt like you said . So you should refer to them as such , because thier language is not " Egyptian " what ever that is . How you could say all African languages don't have a common root is baffling . Africans have moved around and intermixed for thousands of centuries ! They must have influenced each other .
    According to Christopher Ehret the Afro Asiatic language originated in the Oromo region . That region is populated by Cushitic, Chadic and so called Bantu people !
    You are just trying to do what your so called mainstream historians do and cut off Africa south of the Sahara from the rest of Africa .

  • @us3rG
    @us3rG Рік тому

    Geez is developed with African languages in mind, it can grow but it can house most sounds Africans make as it is, it can go well with most structurs,
    This is a long abjad in abugida
    Arabic is like the cursive language of this, Geez was written on rocks. Arabs had paper connects, Axumites had to curve words on rocks and arabs just used a feather

    • @anthropos_94
      @anthropos_94 7 місяців тому

      What about Thamudic and ancient South Arabian scripts?

    • @brookendale3611
      @brookendale3611 2 місяці тому

      What a dumb comment. Most African sounds? What fo you even mean by that. What do east African especially semetic languages have to do with west African languages for example. They don't even sound similar at all. You should say east African. Not African. That's so condescending to Africa in general.

  • @khalidjabuuti2557
    @khalidjabuuti2557 Рік тому

    Whay you dont you us somali language bigest cushitic prench

  • @vitriolnigredo6981
    @vitriolnigredo6981 Рік тому +1

    Go back with Egyptian channel

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  Рік тому +6

      I'm working on 3 videos on Egyptian that will be released on this channel.
      But if you're interested in Egyptian, I also started this page 2 months ago:
      instagram.com/egyptiancopticlanguage

    • @YoungSiamun
      @YoungSiamun Рік тому +3

      @@AncientSemitic Amazing, your work on the language is greatly appreciated.

  • @rhinochino
    @rhinochino 14 днів тому

    A brief history of the terms for Jew -JEWISH Almanac, 1980, pg. 3.
    Strickly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an "Israelite" or a "Hebrew.
    The first Hebrews may not have been Jews at all, and contemporary Palestinians,... " pg. 3.
    A CELEBRATION OF JEWISH LIFE AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE A FACT FILLED BOOK OF INFORMATION AND ENTERTAINMENT.
    TRADITIONS. HISTORY, RELIGION. WISDOM. ACHIEVEMENTS.
    COMPILED AND EDITED BY RICHARD SIEGEL AND CARL RHEINS WITH EXTENSIVE ILLUSTRATIONS, MAPS AND CHARTS

  • @moorishsociety7339
    @moorishsociety7339 2 роки тому +1

    Akkadians were Arabs

    • @AncientSemitic
      @AncientSemitic  2 роки тому +21

      Strange Arabs who didn't speak Arabic and used the term "Arabs" for other people.

  • @davidcooper177
    @davidcooper177 10 місяців тому

    A great presentation and lecture. 🎉🎉