Why Kobe & Shaq didn't last past 2004 - The great feud
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Today I bring to you one of my favorite topics; the reasons surrounding why Shaq and Kobe could no longer coexist past the '04 season. There are so many half-truths and stories that float around when it comes to why the two broke up, but as you'll find from watching the video, there was far more than one reason (or person) this duo was doomed to eventually split.
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www.espn.com/nb... (Jim Gray interview, MUST READ)
• Kobe Bryant: Shaq had ... (Kobe: Shaq had to go)
• Kobe Bryant (Age 26) &... (Kobe, Shaq interview after trade)
Kobe and Shaq are one of the best duos ever because no matter what was wrong with them off the court they still balled the fuck out on the court
2 legit 55-60 oint scorers together...most duos wish they could do that
To be honest I'm glad that Kobe and Shaq split when they did, otherwise we wouldn't have got to see Kobe's individual dominance carrying the Lakers and the Wade/Shaq connection in Miami.
Too much of a good thing always has consequences.
SpyHarms yeah i get you but i would have loved to see them atleast till 2006 because then Kobe would take the nr1 spot on offense and Shaq could play a similar role as in Miami
Kobe had a pretty good Squad when he won without SHaq tho. He had Prime Gasol and Odom was ballin. Bynum was still up and coming but still a massive body that could defend along with some good shooters and perimeter defenders. Dont forget he also had Adam Morrison :)
+AR2 Agreed! If even one of those knuckleheads were smart enough to be the better man, they'd have 6-8 together and Kobe would've had his Finals MVPs from 2006 onwards. As long as one of them was showing by example that they could be the better man and take one for the team, the other would've followed suit I'm sure.
I hate to discredit Detroit's amazing efforts, but that 2004 finals could've been a lot more different if Kobe wasn't trying to prevent Shaq from getting that Finals MVP too
SpyHarms if you think that then get ready to watch the warriors for years to come. I wonder if they will rise or sink
Hardly anyone mentions the fact that with the exception of Glen Rice in 2000, Bryant never had a spot-up ace to kick the ball to for his entire career. Fisher, Horry, and Vujacic all played hot(well, lukewarm usually) or cold in Jackson's scheme. That Kobe ALSO never had a half-decent distributor to initiate the offense with either, is just as nuts! The dude was expected to be both play-maker, spot-up shooter AND the clutch finisher... while keeping The Diesel happy as well.
Kind of impossible, when you ponder it.
Kobe's cheating in Colorado and Jackson's coaching in 2004 didn't exactly help, either LOL. He should have limited Malone to 28-30 min max per game at that age, and brought Payton (or even Kobe) off the bench more often, so as to smooth out and optimize team chemistry, egos and production.
well both of them had huge egos
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Clearly one of them had a much bigger ego. It's pretty blatant who that was.
@@roboninja3194 yeah shaq
@@oscarm3_ You are missing even when it's obvious to guess
Shaq healing his foot on company time says it all
+Jaded Shim Right lol
Even though I'm a Shaq fan (I love Kobe too) I've got to agree with that. He could've been better but the laziness got in the way of the big picture
"Are you gonna fuckin' PAY me now??!!"
is what Shaq yelled at team owner Jerry Buss from on-court after a throwdown during a pre-season game during his '04 contract negotiations.
Love Shaq for life, but his friction with Jerry Buss and conditioning was seriously underplayed in this video, in favor of far too much media-inflated "feud" hype - hype that was inflated from basic conditions of having (arguably) the 2 most valuable players on the same team at the same time. Every bit of drama gets amplified and dissected.
True, talk about "selfishness"
So what would be kobe having to go to court and the huge distraction he caused during that season?
Who's here after Kobe's death
RIP Kobe, Gigi, Black Mamba
yep 😓
@@EliteSports217 it's called respecting someone after death. You don't shit talk someone after theh die
MHU 2k while I personally liked Kobe before his death u should still not change opinion based on death Kobe was selfish on the court and there’s nothing wrong with that it’s a part of his legacy
MHU 2k it’s his opinion damn. Because he thinks something else doesn’t fucking matter damn
Shaq was lazy, and Kobe wasn't a team player- what a combo! 😂😂
+Damon Sidur Yup, shows what Phil had to mesh together
Damon Sidur combo of 3 rings look at LeBron n wade best friends only got 2 together haha
Eddie Eddie kobe and shaq played a few more years together like 2-3... Kobe was young at the beginning which is why they didn't get more, with lj and wade it's a combo of lebron not holding up his end in 2011 and them getting together at the tail end of wades prime
but they got 3 championship lol.
Kobe Tells How Shaq Hated On His 9 Gm 40pt Streak.
ua-cam.com/video/OU0yZ3lintE/v-deo.html
For those that don't know,
Kobe snitching on Shaq cheating was a story that didn't break until Shaq was already gone.
This is a video about why they split up, hence why that isn't a part of the video.
Dom2k ok yeah that confused me
Dom2k love the vids dom
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how many rings do you think the lakers would have if they did trade for kid? i think shaq seriously might have 6-8 rings if that happened. also keep up the great work, you should have a lot more subs. you will be up there with Mike Korzemba
kobe NEVER snitched on shaq
they are both so selfish. They didnt see the overall pitcure that could have been 5 rings in a row.
+Nathen W Sad
Too many players grow up as young people dreaming to be a superstar and nothing but, greater than anyone else, often being a good teammate is not even a thought.
Rick fox injury hurt the 2003 lakers same for Horry going 5% from 3
Horry was straight GARBAGE that postseason!!
Woah Kobe is selfish he didn’t care about the team wasn’t a true friend
Kobe was right to question shaq's leadership. if THE alpha in the team sags off, then the whole swags off. a young lion like kobe is gonna pounce. had shaq applied himself, after chip 3, kobe would had dat 5-peat: GOAT
+MrPrizziceless agreed
"had shaq applied himself, after chip 3, kobe would had dat 5-peat: GOAT" Kobe played as much of a role in them not winning in 03 and is the biggest reason they lost in 04 to the pistons. Kobe played absolutely horrible that series and was clearly trying to go for finals MVP which made him shoot them out of the series.
Oh so if shaq applied himself kobe would have the 5 peat huh? So shaq applying himself=kobe legacy? My god are every one of you kobe fanbois actually this stupid? W/out shaq kobe would have 2 rings. But yep shaq needed to apply himself, smh. Remember kobe never won a ring w/out phil jackson either. With shaq/phil 5 rings. W/out shaq/phil 0 rings. That says it all.
Also remember how kobe's contract killed the lakers the last few years he was there. Compared to the athletes like brady who has repeatedly taken less so the team could get better players to win. That was another reason kobe wanted shaq gone, money. He knew he could not get a max deal with shaq there. And even after shaq was gone he acted like a child when he criticized the lakers publicly and demanded they trade him in 2006. Yep sounds like a great leader to me.
Dude has been nothing but a selfish me 1st shoot 1st player his entire career. Not to mention his awful field goal % and player efficiency, especially when compared to other great players. But i am sure those facts about his stats don't matter right? This is what i mean about kobe fanbois, they don't know anything about basketball.
@@roboninja3194 good to see someone knows what their talking about
But the fat and out shape tipped shaq off that’s what ur missing
Shaq won 1 championship without Kobe,
And Kobe won 2 championships without Shaq. Man, if these two have played together for a longer time, I think they could've bring longer dynasty in NBA
They were both selfish, stupid, greedy and so arrogant at that time.
Well. They could have won at least, at least 2 more.
all shaq needed to do was work as hard as kobe and not be lazy
Kobe is all time top 5 in assists for the lakers... stfu ^
MrAVGNdude wow no way, a ball dominant player who played for a team for 20 years is top 5 in assists!! Anyway, if you watched this video you would know that he's not talking about passing when it comes to selfishness. He is referring to Kobe's inability to be a great teammate and put his personal goals behind that of the team. His selfishness is part of the reason for the split.
all kobe had to do was work hard as WADE! and he couldve made the playoffs after shaq left!
Sometimes personalities don’t match. What I would have LOVED to see is Kobe and someone like a Kevin Garnett, with intensity and drive to match Kobe. And Shaq would have been great with someone like Iverson, laid back until it’s time to go.
@@Reedstick Kobe's personal goals were winning. Nothing else.
Watching these old Dom vids has me feeling nostalgic
Great video, love the objectivity of your takes and analysis. You tell it like it is without picking sides.
I've never been faster clicking on a new video
when i read this title i cried and i wished kobe won more rings
Amazing content, thanks bruh
+Quaseem Smith Appreciate it man!
Man I love your videos. Being a huge NBA nut all my life, watching the videos that you have put together are spot on with what I remember from back in the day. Great work friend, and keep it up!
Appreciate it!
As a suns fan hearing Kobe to PHX hurts so bad 😞
Keep up the good work boss. You're quickly becoming one of my favorite UA-camrs!
Love the curb your enthusiasm picture. One of my favorite episodes
something i noticed look at how kobe puts on his sock at 2:49 ive never seen someone do that
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KingTheVictor right!! Wtf
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this is a great objective analysis. Keep up the great work Dom
R.I.P Kobe we love you!
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SONICdaGOON fr those were the good old days
SONICdaGOON wats his old channel?
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SONICdaGOON that was his channel did not know that
Dom got the the best basketball content out there. He even takes the time to put his sources in the description. You're killing it man. Still wondering what that song in the intro is though
+Not My Name Thanks man!
I didn't make the ad so I'm honestly not sure sorry
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Brian Scalabrine you're my favorite player!!
Always great to hear about one of the most fascinating teams in my childhood.
You forgot to mention during the rape case when Kobe got in the car . He said I should have paid like Shaq did . If true that would explain why he did not support him during it .
Kobe snitching on Karl Malone and Shaq most definitely caused huge problems.
Kobe going into a meeting and saying he would not say anything about Shaq in the media anymore and then leaving that meeting and going straight to the media to call Shaq fat and out of shape probably caused some issues as well.
Both players got petty, no doubt. Leaving things like what Kobe said about Shaq and Karl paying women to stay quiet out of this video hurts the credibility but not enough for me to hate the creator.
Taybizzness That story didn't break until after the split
christina cumba The video was about why they split up.
The snitching story broke when Shaq was already gone.
Not if you live in LA. It was major news the moment he said it.
Regardless, it was a major reason for Shaq not giving Kobe support during the trial.
that was after they already gave hiding shit and it was already out of control
You make great videos, dude. I can tell that you really put in a lot of effort and have a lot of knowledge. Keep it up, dude.
Enjoyed the insight offered in the video. I believe the following was part of the reason as well.
I believe that the main reason that they both put up with one another was that Jerry West helped them understand that they needed one another. When Jerry West left the organization, there was not a person that both respected enough to really listen to about their relationship. At the very end, Mitch Kupchak (sorry if spelling is wrong), who took the role of GM after West, spoke in the press about doing whatever it took to keep Kobe, and was ambivalent about Shaq. Not long after that, Shaq demanded to be traded. I believe they could have won 2-3 more championships. Sadly, the role of Shaq and Wade was very similar to the role that Shaq and Kobe could have had in LA. In the end, probable Laker championships went to other teams.
+Anton Burrell From what I understood West was a big influence on Shaq, but it was really Phil's job in actually getting them to work together (he didn't stop them from taking shots at each other obviously )
RIP Kobe!
Dom, we can tell that your videos are worked on hard and you try. Thanks for being great man. Keep doing what you are doing and you will go far my friend
You pretty much nail this. You DO ask for other possible contributing factors. Here's one.The 2004 Finals. Sure Karl was out (injured); sure Payton season-long wouldn't accept being 3rd-4th fiddle like he should have; but the Lakers still should have beaten the Pistons. ALL they had to do was exactly what they did every series up until then: go INSIDE-OUT; go into Shaq virtually every time. Shaq would have either fouled Ben Wallace out or forced the Pistons to double-team him all game long. Either way, this would have allowed Kobe to go ballistic. I loved both of them; but Kobe a tiny bit more. But in THIS case, that Finals defeat, IMO, is ALL on Kobe. Now, I DO understand that Kobe's righteous frustrations with Shaq's lacsadaisical attitude towards his conditioning and all the other things you mentioned contributed to Kobe finally having enough of Shaq getting too much credit. So then, here's the next factor: If PJax has been a better personnel manager (or if Jerry West had still been around with the almost unlimited respect he had from both players) - what otherwise, in hindsight, seemed inevitable, their break-up - should have and could have EASILY been averted. All that really needed to be pointed out was that IF ONLY they co-operated together, they'd have extremely high odds to get to as many as 10 Finals with perhaps 8 Rings (with the first 4 fMVPs for Shaq; and the 2nd set of 4 fMVPs for Kobe). This would have come close to guaranteeing that the GOAT discussion would have been reduced down to: Shaq or Kobe for GOAT. What FOOLS!
Are you kidding me, Detroit's defense was about stopping everyone else except Shaq, pretty much what every team did before winning his rings. Game 1 of that series was perfect example of why that didn't work because once a number of Shaq's inside shots don't fall and the outside shooting faltered Detroit was in control. The key adjustment that Phil Jackson and the Lakers did not make in that series offensively was pushing up the tempo to prevent Detroit's 3/4 court presses and traps to slow the ball down to prevent Shaq from getting in position which prevented the Inside-Out game to the outside and mid range shooters. This is the very thing San Antonio did the next year to beat Detroit. It worked for the Lakers Game 2 for the key spurt that got the Lakers the win, it would have worked the entire series couple this with GPayton not excepting a bench role like he should he done here and not allowing Fisher to start the games which would have forced Chauncey Billups to play both ends which would have lowered his point production.
I'm really enjoying the fresh, new content that you are putting out. It shows that you are putting in hard work in your videos. Keep up the good work and you'll be over 100K in no time!
Every time Dom uploads no hesitation just click on the video and enjoy as always!!!
despite all these... i still love kobe.... thats his attitude... havibg attitude is cool... he is a true competitor
Very nice work Dom! Thanks for the vid
+Pwnership Thanks for watching!
Awesome vid my dude.
It really goes to show that superstar players will always have tremendously huge egos. The modern era has Westbrook, Kyrie, etc. that could've accomplished way more if not for their feeling the need to be the center of everything and not willing to change.
These two have buried the hatchet. Kobe's gone on to say that Shaq was one of the most dominant big men ever. And Shaq has even gone on to say that He thinks Kobe is the greatest laker (which is really high praise considering he elevated Kobe over Kareem and magic) and that Kobe was better than Lebron. But you still gotta wonder what would have happened if Kobe and Shaq got along better during the 04 Finals and Malone didn't get hurt during the Playoffs.
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Dude I love your channel and your content your one of the best basketball channels keep it up the good work and make great content
A lot of people say this whole feud was kobes fault but that definently isn't the case shaq had a lot of issues too shaq just left so it looks like kobe threw shaq away
Great video man, love how much depth goes into your videos. #roadto100k
Their relationship reminds me of Lions. A young lion who’s hungry and wants to lead the pride(Kobe) but the Leader of the pride(Shaq) who’s lazy, gready and wants everything done for him doesn’t want that to happen 😅
and I was just about to start homework...
bobthebuilder361 same
bobthebuilder361 No you wasn't nigga 😏😏 We all know that Dom 2k, Mike Korzemba, Funky, and Smoove won't allow us to do homework.
I take 69 AP classes if I never start on hw I'd sleep -96 hours each night yo
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Yo bro keep up the great work. Really love your videos, very entertaining, and please don't change the into.
Hey dom2k thanks for making the vids and linking us with the vids and articles
Awesome video.
Great vid man
+Rafael Nadal Thanks!
I like this channel
I always figured it was ego & possibly the age difference. Usually the one to punches came up together like mj & pippen whom I consider the greatest one 2 punch ever were only 2 years apart. They both were drafted by chicago & both nurtured together. Shaq & kobe were different. They both arrived in l.a. at the same time but shaq was already a perennial all star on the magic & no doubt the top player on the team. I believe if shaq stayed in orlando with penny hardaway in a weak eastern conference they would have been in the finals many many times . They were in the 95 finals as babys. Well maybe shaq did get out though I just remembered jordan had just come back . So I think shaq left for l.a bc Michael came back & they won 3 championships. Kobe & shaq didnt win til the bulls were broken up after MJ retired in 98 scottie left for Houston & Rodman left the bulls & possibly the game. He was getting up there in age. They all were but Rodman was older than jordan the guy was in his prime on the pistons in the 80s.
Anyway it would have been interesting to see if the bulls would have beat the magic every year if shaq didnt go to l.a. I felt bad for the magic bc they went from the finals to a bad team in the blink of an eye. I think kobe Bryant the league forced the Hornets to trade him bc they wanted a big market like l.a to be contenders. Same with the rigging of the Knicks getting Ewing in the draft ny needed to back on the nba on nbc . Which they were. Anyway kobe was 17 & shaq 25. That's a pretty big age difference for a one 2 punch. Yes it has worked like jabar & magic but maybe this time it was different. Plus Kobe had to be really immature at 17 to come into the nba. I'm glad the nba doesn't allow high school kids in anymore I think u have to complete 2 years of college to go into the draft now. The main thing is age & ego. Plus l.a. shaq said as he was getting older they were not treating him well the organization & wanted to hold onto kobe as he was the future & present.
Both lost at the end and Lakers could have won 7 titles. What a shame...
Shaq got traded to Miami because of a lot of things and maybe the major thing too is that they wanted him (shaq) to cut his salary. He said that he was making 30 million and wanted him to go down to 20 million. He even said that on Inside the nba on tnt. :) That's one of the many things why he got traded or left the Lakers. But clearly they could've won 2 to 3 more.
great video bro
if they stayed together.. they wouldve had 2 more rings and then spend the rest of their time getting to the conference finals or 2nd round exit
I need that backround music in the beginning man!! Lol
been here since 1600 subs nice job ☺
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they should have won 6 in total together SMH make no dam sense 😑😑😑😑
kenpachiclay11 Kobe ran shaq out of town
To many head cases and egos. Shaq fucked up for being selfish and bring his ass to camp in shape nobody was fucking with Kobe during those title runs best scorer in the game
Seen this coming on hardwood, happy I downloaded the app
I know it doesn't really matter and Kobe won two rings after this anyway, but I'm sure Shaq was feeling himself when he stared into the camera in 2006 holding that Championship trophy.
Winning a world title at any time is great, but the simple fact that he got another one not two years fully gone from LA and Kobe must've made that moment really sweet for him at the time.
They split up cuz Kobe snitched on Shaq😂😂
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Another grat vid Dom! Can you make a vid about the Malice at the Palace and if that robbed Indiana a championship.
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R.I.P kobe and gigi ❤❤❤
i have spent years 14 years hating Kobe. Hell, i stopped watching Basketball in general. i just recently got back into it because he retired. this makes me feel bad because i always thought it was just Kobe ...and Shaq was the victim.
If Like 7 years of your love marrying you
Did Shaq actually tell Kobe that he couldn’t win without him? 😂 Shaq prolly wasn’t aware of what Kobe could do
Former GM Jerry West could have kept them together. He commanded respect like no one else in the Lakers organization. He knew how to squash beefs between them. Mitch Kupchak didn’t have that ability
Kobe absolutely destroyed Shaq in that ESPN interview. I felt that heat lol
They also made rap disses against each other im a kobe and shaq fan
hey dom2k, could you kindly investigate the story of blake griffin puching clipper staff? something wrong with that story.
Shaq ruined his career
Jodeson Sayoc HOF with 4 rings , 3 NBA finals MVP and 1 league MVP?? Yup, that s.o.b really did destroyed his own career ...
he honestly could have won 10 rings
Jodeson Sayoc LOL his career was just fine
Adnan Hossain 10 is little extreme
Shaq would have been a guaranteed top 3 player if he cared
Let’s not forget the Spurs won the year after Jordan retired. And they whipped they ass again 02-03 season
It was kinda of how Kobe wasnt getting along with Dwight. Shaq wasnt even an above average role player when he joined Cleveland. Kobe was a hard working guy and Shaq was the type of guy to say loosen up
"Kobe believed in working for hours upon hours in an empty gym"
Became the player who has missed the most shots in history
Kenneth Donnelly Kobe has the greatest work this of all time you don't go to the gym just to take shots
Kenneth Donnelly Yeah, but he's #3 on the all time scoring list and played 20 years.
And he has 5 rings, I don't think Kobe cares at all that that's what it took to get there.
+Big Smoke So there are 2 better players who scored more points in less attempts than the one who was supoosed to be a gym rat. Good to know
And still Kobe missed more than them while scoring less. And cmon Big Smoke you eat the entire Cluckin' Bell stock at one go
One of the specific points of contention you missed is that Kobe allegedly said to police upon arrest for his sexual assault charge that he "should have paid them to shut up like Shaq does."
Kobe never one a title with any coach but phil jackson. Despite kobe criticizing his coaching on multiple occasions. Take shaq off the lakers in the early 2000s and LA doesn't even sniff the finals. Kobe was a very good player. But he owes a lot of his success to shaq/phil. We all know w/out shaq kobe would have only 2 rings and would never even be mentioned in the GOAT debates. And just imagine how many titles jordan would have won if he had shaq. Kobe is and has always been a selfish me 1st player. Repeatedly criticizing his coaches, teammates and the lakers organization.
Bottom line is kobe was selfish. And all his fanbois are the dumbest people on earth. I dont think a single one of them know anything about basketball.
Michael Jordan was the exact same way. Look him up sometime.
And how many rings did MJ win without Phil Jackson? 0. How many without Scottie Pippen? 0. Your argument is moot.
How many did Shaq win before Kobe??? Oh yea..0.....
You gotta be 15 years old 😂
Dom. Do a vid of; What if Jordan played in Lebrons place on the Cavs (pre Miami).
Kings Of The Vox same thing
One reason: Detroit Pistons
Daniel Shamayev and Kobe Ballhogging
I hope someone will answer my big question. Why didn't Cleveland pursue Shaq in 2004? shaq bron combo in shaqs late prime would've been kickass. I know they cavs had ilgauskas. Still..shaq is well.. shaq.
In Shaq's book he said that he reached out to Kobe through his right hand man.
This video just highlighted to me how big of an impact shaq had on that team.
what I would of loved is if Shaq would of came back to LA that year he went to boston...
Good video, however, it got a little muddy around the Phil and Shaq departure. Shaq was just simply sliding down hill, and the Lakers were simply looking to the future. Kobe was not only the best player in the league, at the time of Shaq departure, but he was also the most popular player in the league (i.e. the cash cow), and the Lakers were smart enough to realize it -- the future was with Kobe.
This could have been the greatest duo of all-time
They decided to split on the year I was born
Yo this guy should do a collaboration with Mike Korzemba. They both make high quality video about stuff like this.
Had they won more rings, I would consider Kobe the best SG and Shaq the best big man
kobe was never carried. only people who are fucking newbies would say that. he was a superstar like lebron, kd, harden, etc. today, just because shaq was a monster doesnt mean kobe got carried. there were games and series where kobe's numbers were equal and better than shaq's. and kobe was the go to guy in crunch time when teams were fouling shaq on purpose. finals were easy for the lakers, and in the finals was when shaq was better.. but think about the west, thats when kobe did most of his damage. it was way harder to get through the west than to win the finals! kobe is so underrated in his afro/young days with shaq. kobe was as good as any top player you see in today's game.
Kobe wanted to be talked in history as Kobe Bryant, not Kobe & Shaq stuff. And he made it. Of course if they had been together in entire career, they would have built a dynasty. That's a great thing but he pursued another way for greatness, individually.
But Shaq and Kobe will forever be linked. Kobe can’t stand out, just like Shaq
I think they win two more titles, but I'm not confident in that assertion. Shaq only had 2 more good years left (04-06) before he became a role player. Kobe would have picked up some of the slack as Shaq aged. With no Shaq to make the Heat a contender, then the Pistons would have been the team the Lakers faced in the 05 and 06 FInals. The Lakers would have needed to add two good forwards to complement Shaq, Kobe and Fisher. I think they could have done that, and it would have been enough to overcome the Pistons. However, it was the West that was getting better. The Mavericks got better. The Suns sort of replaced the Kings. But it's the Spurs that would have provided the biggest challenge for them as they got better due to the emergence of Parker and Manu. I think winning the West would have been more challenging than ever for the Lakers if Shaq and Kobe had stayed together.
damn this was before you went through puberty eh Dom
And that pretty much sums it up in a 🌰 nutshell.
rip kobe🥺🙏🏽❤️
Without Kobe No 3 rings for shaq , without shaq no 3 rings for kobe