The issue is not it happened to Biden or trump. The issue is that it happened at all. The security flaws in the whole thing with letting the guy get even remotely close is absurd. Someone with zero security experience could look at that and tell you that was an issue
dont you guys realise, the usa has so many weapons in the country it happens everywere. if it can happen in schools and universities, why shouldnt it happen there?
I think we're going back to the old C. Eastwood movie "in the line of fire". when superiors say "he's overreacted" I would say that "let's not overreacted" exactly what happened and it probably came from Trump's chief of staff himself
@@FAL87 Shinzo Abe, Japan's former Prime Minister, was assassinated just two years ago in Japan (a country with incredibly strict private gun ownership laws), by an assassin using an improvised firearm. Criminals will get weapons anyway they can, if they can't legally purchase one, then they'll try to illegally purchase one. If they can't illegally purchase one, then they'll make one. Acting as if politically motivated assassination attempts are solely are a U.S. problem because the U.S. has a ton of firearms is utterly hilarious, open up a history book my guy. Also, schools and unis aren't actively being guarded by the damn Secret Service, so it's a mind-numbing comparison to be made regardless.
@@margaretwentz4568 That is less concerning, bullseye is a turn of phrase. What is concerning is the constant accusation of "threat" of an 'enemy' & about how everyone who supports Trump & Trump himself are "pseudo-fascists" the comparisons to [funny mustache man]. Those are much more concerning & are continuing, Biden has continued to call Trump a threat & use the most incendiary language which would to many justify [destruction] essentially one step off from directly suggesting it acceptable.
Lastest report says they were trying to find him up to 3 hours beforehand, before Trump ever took the stage. Also they said there was supposed to be a sniper on that building but head of SS said they didn't put someone there due to sloped roof. Lie... because the sniper that shot him was on a sloped roof. There is video of him crawling up and two officers saw him with a gun. They still did not stop PT from going on stage. This will be covered up
I've seen some people commenting in some videos that they saw him in the roof before the attempt, they told the security but they did nothing. So if someone says, "Because of this or because of that secret service couldn't do anything" is a an excuse. Everyone saw that guy crawling in the roof with a gun who wasn't part of the security.
The issue with this argument is that ignores the reality of being in a rally crowd. No one said they “told the security” .. they said they were calling to the police but they didn’t hear/understand what the guys were saying. This a crowd of thousands.. a few people far from the stage pointing and shouting is background noise at a rally.
Some say that the cops were trying to stop him and the next roof next to “apparently” there were people next to him on the next roof that were cops (don’t know how true that is tho)
Source? I know about Kennedy but there is no law that allows for candidates to have secret service protection. Trump gets it because he is an ex president.
This on top of the rhetoric from the Administration and their media allies. Biden literally said last week "need to put a bullseye on trump". Media voices said they needed "seal team six to get em all" and every single social post has voices regretting that the assassin missed. Nah, the Left and their government elements wanted this to happen, full-stop. Spade a spade.
I'm not a Trump supporter but I wouldn't want anything to happen to him. I don't believe it was staged just like I don't believe it has anything to do with Biden. He was just sick
I respectfully disagree. A Trump stunt is a real possibility here. I don't know what really happened, but anyone who dismisses out of hand the possibility of it having been faked, is the one who is, IMHO, no better than a flat earther. I suggest that it is best to keep an open mind.
@@nox22119 I just find it funny too that there was a study that came out that said that Conservatives/Republicans were more susceptible to conspiracies, not anymore lol.
@@UpperDarbyDetailing yeah, it’s just fuckin ridiculous, Matt’s demolition logo is basically his face, and it’s plastered on the body of someone who tried to kill DT. I feel so bad for Matt
I am an old lady who has voted for democrats and republicans. No politician has been a perfect fit for me but I vote for who I feel will be best for the country and my family. Voting is a solemn privilege that citizens are tasked to do. We should understand that everyone uses their own life experiences to form their opinions and that is okay. Maybe we can learn from each other. What we don't do is physically hurt or do worse to those who differ with our opinions.
Apparently a local cop went up the ladder while confirming the warnings.. saw the kid… then ran away because “the ROE meant he couldn’t engage”… what horse shit
Matt who runs Demolition Ranch said that he had gotten multiple phone calls from the media asking if he ever spoke to the shooter and he didn't know why until he found out on the news that the shooter was wearing one of his shirts
Back in 2008, I was a soldier stationed at Ft. Hood in TX. Cheney came to give a speech (I honestly can't remember the purpose). I drew the short straw and was stuck on the detail that had to prepare the parade field. We were out there weeks in advance prepping, stacking shipping containers 3 high around the entire perimeter and draping cammo netting over it so secret service had somewhere for their crack shots to hide. All of the nearby buildings were scouted, cleared and men were stationed on rooftops. This is on a secure military facility, not some backwoods town. I was impressed with the level of security. NOONE was getting in without us knowing. Furthermore, I met a few of these guys. They were all ex military and clearly top tier soldiers at one point in their careers. Its hard to imagine a 20 yr old kid getting the drop on them. Smells fishy, but what do I know.
Trump didn't have presidential-level support. That level of support is provided to the party nominees, and even though Trump was clearly the choice since 2020, because the RNC hadn't nominated him, he had a lesser detail.
@@ethanblank8911 idk man. I accept that I'm no expert. Just a dumb grunt. But I'm certain that if a proper recon was performed, they would've put a two man team on that roof. Even Kmart security could handle that. And where was their aerial recon? A single drone even. I think it's more likely that someone let that guy in. I respect your input and thank you for conversing with me on this matter.
I was on medical standby a few years ago when Trump had come to my smaller town. Airport was shut down, anything that could possibly have a gunman on it, even out of direct line of sight, had either a sniper or a local LEO watching it. It's really bizarre how they screwed the pooch here
@@adamjarvis9618no you are 100%! Even if they had lacked SS and only had local. If they had a team of two local good old boys on that roof it would have never happened! You telling me some wet behind the ears, just fresh from mom tits, probably never really fired a gun was able to get pass all the local cops, and security?! It's just too much!
I was told long ago, Secret Service are expendable when protecting VIPs. Not saying life is worthless, but they are protecting something more important than themselves.
I did PSD for 17 of my 21y in the military, I have been a body man for Congressmen, music acts, actors and even a defense contractor ceo. There are many things being said about this but generally the SService protection is very small. Once he becomes the candidate his detail is the same as the vice president. I know CAT members and Marshall's service protection detail members. Both would have been used if he was the candidate.
The only question that matters is HTF did this guy get on a roof with clear line of sight 150yds away?!? It’s either utter incompetence or it was on purpose. Any 5 yr old playing fortnight or COD would ID that building as needing officers on top of it. People were yelling at the cops and pointing the guy out for MINUTES before he fired and nothing. This is how you get conspiracy theories.
Apparently a SNAFU-situation. Local police was responsible for all areas outside the venue, but they were also told that SS was running the show. So they though SS would do it, and SS didn't check that it was secured. It WAS identified as a danger position. Someone didn't do their job, for sure.
leaving that rooftop unguarded was purely intentional. Then Cheatle gave a horrible excuse as to why they left it unguarded. Mayorkas even tried to block Cheatle from testifying. This was sabotage disguised as incompetence.
I saw Hillary Clinton when she ran in '16 at the place I worked at. While it was inside a factory, the Secret Servicemen were covering every high spot and any spot that line of sight of Clinton. The place was full of catwalks and overhead access areas.
You're absolutely right, we Americans should strive for better in our political candidates. I have been voting since the mid 60s so have seen many elections. In the last 20 years however, it seems most of the time my choice has been to vote for the lesser of two evils, with no best candidate in view.
We were planning our wedding at a saloon when it happened. My friend's father texted him right as it happened. We shouted it out and everyone went nuts and started looking it up. I was the first to find the picture of him pumping his fist and the entire place erupted into cheers that he had survived. To be honest, when I first heard it, I thought for sure they got him. It was quite an emotional rollercoaster that afternoon.
i am 18 (19 next month) and i already had the chance to vote for 2 national elections in my country because the government keeps fucking everything up. I just have the feeling that its all a disney show, it feels like im in a fight about who gets to eat the last peace of candy in primary school everytime i talk to someone about politics. If you have a different political view than someone else it turns into a call of duty voice chat. It concerns me when i see people that are like 40 years older than me that i am supposed to look up to and learn from talk like toddlers because someone voted for a different person.
Being able to express yourself is important, but listening without interjecting your viewpoint will give you a clearer view of others. It can turn into a wrestling match, but you can choose not to wear your views on your sleeve and avoid some fights.
I’m 24, was at work yesterday, talking to a guy who’s 36 at length & he is nearly ready to want to abolish the government & start over, smart guy too just incredibly fed up. More ppl would walk by, hear what were talking ab & stop & hop in on the convo. The idea of creating “Patriot strongholds” like in the days of the revolutionary war came up. Older generations, usually a lot calmer in my experience but have been fed up for years or decades. Welcome to the club my friend The key is talking to ppl who have similar views or if they’re opposing, well you’ll figure out how you wanna approach debating them. I don’t bother trying to change their minds most of the time bc it’s a waste of time. That’s why I talk to ppl with similar views most of the time, we have a productive conversation instead of someone ranting their opinions in my face & screaming like a child if I disagree. You debate & talk w the intelligent ppl who disagree bc they can actually have a civil conversation. Basically talk to intelligent ppl, not A-holes, crazy ppl, social media driven ppl, etc.
@@sarg778returnscodm7 well im sorry someone just tried to murder a gd political candidate and he tryna say its trumps fault? biden just said days ago “put trump in the bullseye” and he says that trump is a dictator ANY mentally ill person who is a patriot or is just a trump hater, since the guy was a registered republican yet he donated to a democrat organization, any mentally ill person could and just did take that as a threat. im fucking pissed off and sorry lord for my language, i dont need to apologize to any human ill apologize for my language in my prayers tonight.
My little brother wanted to wear his trump hat around in the south and in some places he fears to have it on because of what might be done to him. Wether it's someone spitting in his food or actually trying to harm him, the fear is there and credible. He bought that hat 8 years ago. That is how long this has been going on and it's disgusting that anyone would suggest that it's our fault in any way. I not only live in fear that a left leaning person might harm me but I also live in fear of being cancled by the slightest miss step so no Republicans are not doing the same thing the left is doing. Meanwhile, mainstream democrats and celebrities have openly called for the death or harassment of trump or anyone who supports him for the last 8 years with nothing done to them but praise.
How? That’s the ultimate question right. USSS is considered the best in personal protection but this happened. They’ve come out today to say that local law enforcement was responsible for perimeter security and not their agents. To me, it seems that’s a really fast explaxantion by USSS on how this event was allowed to happen. Even before any real investigation has been done, the finger pointing has started. I was in the impression that USSS has ultimate say on security when it relates to sitting President and former Presidents. Their agents are trained to protect their principals. Local police aren’t. The quick finger pointing by USSS makes them more suspect of, either, incompetence or dereliction of duty. Both are equally bad.
And that's where I think it went south. USSS had pverall responsibility, local police was responsible for area outside venue. Someone either didn't do their job locally and/or USSS did not check to see that it was done either.
they have rules for who gets protection - and RFK jr has not yet hit that mark. But i agree, family history should matter. the rules also have pulled Barron Trump's protective detail as well.
I think there were two critical failures: 1 - the secret service and local law enforcement needed to work together to pull additional resources. Local police should have been controlling access to all 18 locations with secret service oversite. 2 - local police needed to have direct communication with secret service for urgent calls. A local officer went to engage the suspect, but if there had been proper communication, he could have immediately radioed to secret service that there was a shooter. I am sure there were other failures, but those two seem critical to me based on current information available.
They requested more security for Trump but was denied also the person in charge of ss is focused on diversity and wants 30% more women instead of hiring the best qualified.
You can clearly see they are totally confused and way too small to protect him. IIRC, high profile SS details are reserved for experienced agents, its like the reward position for career competence. Those 2 female agents looked like they'd never been outside, clearly noobs. The SS must be compromised to allow this much failure across the board.
Kimberly Cheatle on why that roof wasn't secured: ' "That building in particular has a sloped roof, at its highest point. And so, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. And so, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside," she said.' Laughable 😅😂
The content that UA-cam channels like Jubilee and Cut are putting out is awesome because it forced people to sit down and have those conversations that you talked about at the end of the vid. I'd highly recommend that content to anyone, but especially to the people who shout at others instead of talk to them.
The greatest question is how the shooter knew that roof was unprotected and unwatched? A guy in broad daylight carries a rifle and ladder around a few hundred feet from Trump..?
@@anpat3 It seems like a reasonable thing to say when you were almost assassinated. To tell people not to give in and to fight to win the election. Even when threatened. Although I am assuming you are deciding to interoperate it as a call to physically fight, since that conveniences your stance. Even though he had never used "fight" in a violent context in any of his past rallies or speeches. Everyone else knows what he meant by that. Only people or wish to hear it as otherwise hear it differently.
@@Meryle25 Why do you assume only democrats will "hear it as otherwise"? I know there are plenty of republicans who will use this as a justification to physically attack democrats. There have been SO many examples already, even when Trump was president. I have no problem with Trump pumping his fist and encouraging his voters, or using this as propaganda for his platform. But he needs to choose his words better. "Fight" is one of the worst words he could've chosen. Though I can't blame him really, since I'm sure he was filled with adrenaline and shock from the attack. You can't actually just say "because it conveniences your stance" as if there is zero problem with Trump's words. That assumption is part of the problem OriginalHuman was talking about.
As disgusting as it is, it's not really surprising when we've had 8+ years of mainstream media outlets openly comparing Trump to "the mustache man". What IS surprising, as you pointed out, is how insanely close the guy got while carrying a damn rifle... And how the Secret Service said they needed to "investigate" before saying they'd failed. Like no, you clearly failed to do your jobs, that's not even up for debate, the only thing to investigate is HOW you failed so badly.
@@funnyboy2000ful thanks dude. he isnt racist, he isnt this and that. he is obnoxious but should not be murdered. BIDEN should NEVER be hurt either. im a Christian Mexican-American- im American first, mexican second. my loualty lies with the United States of America… people think we hispanics hate trump. NO we dont like illegal immigration either bc unlike trump said , theyre not taking black jobs, theyre taking OUR jobs….. theyre fedding off the government tit when we need to worry ahout our citizens. if they would just immigrate how OriginalHuman did we would LOVE them.
I worked with the Secret Service back when President Reagan visited OKC, headed to Tinker AFB. A major DOD contractor in the city was having an anniversary celebration, and when they learned Reagan was going to be at Tinker, they invited him to attend. The Secret Service contacted the company I worked at which rents motor homes out, to provide four motor homes for the president's detail, the media, etc. I spent many hours crawling around in and under those motor homes with agents, we looked at places that were vulnerable such as inside wheel wells, inside the motor housing, nooks and crannies within the chassis etc. A couple of the windows pop out for emergency exits, so we mapped those out and also removed all the propane gas bottles, went over all entrances and exits, literally the whole nine yards. Plus I had to be on-call that whole week in case the SS had questions, and made many trips out to the site to resolve issues. The SS was great to work with overall, very thorough and professional. During his visit, the protection detail was fantastic--what has happened to the Secret Service since then? I'm just dumbfounded by this. SMH.
I did a photo search of the area. There was a police officer just a few feet from that door, people from the crowd was yelling at him and pointing to where the sniper was. Ln the video he started walking away from the sniper toward the front of the building.
He moved his head up becaise he was looking far way to begin with. He had to take his eye off the scope to readjust closer to himself since the shooter was so close. Thats why.
@@Pikawarpsit was confirmed they knew he was there for 30 minutes before the first shot ever was fired. They were told of a suspicious person and did nothing. There is a recorded video from a trump supporter that recorded him scaling up the building with his gun while everyone actively screamed and pointed that there was someone with a gun crawling up the building & onto the roof.. U can watch where they said secret service completely ignored them & did nothing..
@originalhuman I think the term we are talking is defense-in-depth. For him to get into that position and get a shot off essentially means that every single layer, including the inner cordon, failed, since the whole point is for the shooter to be unable to engage at all. As for the politics, the rhetoric calling for Trump's death even coming from the Administration is undeniably at fault, politics aside. When you ask, "Is this the best we can do?", you have to understand that governments are ALWAYS representative of the current state of the people, regardless of whether they do what the people want. Trump is a flawed individual who has been trying to fulfill the will of the majority (as evidenced by election, polls, and street interviews). Biden is a career politician (54 years in politics) who represents the extreme state of political corrupt in the US system. The fact that people would vote against Trump for "mean tweets" etc but permit the kind of things that Biden says (I'm not writing them here, you'll see why) while ignoring his dementia, reflects most poorly on the moral compass of Americans, as it means we are more motivated by emotional tides than a true ethical system. As for actual discussions, there are honest conversations out there, you just gotta know where to look. Steven Crowder, for all his issues, has several videos out recently where he has legit conversations with a variety of people. Even Ben Shapiro and Ana Kasparian had some civil discussions. The people who don't want legit conversations are the ones that try to shut down debate on the streets by screaming, who call the campus cops on street interviews, and who call for assassinations. These are the people, we can agree, are the ones we don't want to be in charge. At the end of the day, if an idea seems reasonable to you, but then becomes unreasonable when the political affiliation of the speaker is revealed, then I guess that reflects the emotion bias of the listener. A simple solution? People need to be humble enough to be introspective of themselves on the daily, and most people don't do that.
It's Friday 19th of July and they STILL don't know how that gaping hole in security happened. The Secret Service says it was the Local Law Enforcement's failure. The locals said that the SS just wanted them for traffic control. Somehow I doubt it was the Pennsylvania State Police's failure. They have always been a Premier Agency, but it's difficult to find out how many State Troopers were there. I know nothing about the Butler local police.
I like how the Secret Service couldn't even holster their guns. Still fishy to me how this guy climbs a building with a rifle on his back and the Trained Secret Service didn't see him? RIGHT!
In reference to your “privilege” statement. There are a whole hell of a lot of us straight white men that have never seen “privilege” and don’t know what it would look like if it spit in our faces, much like the rhetoric of calling a white person “privileged” based on the color of our skin. This used to called racism.
Yea I 100% get that. I meant more than just the color of my skin. It also included having a stable income and being able to like in 2 different countries. Being able to have them choices is definite a privilege. But yes to circle back you are 100% right.
You have always had white male privilege so you can't see it. It doesn't mean you're rich or don't have to work, or you have no problems. You don't have to check behind the door and in every stall before you use the bathroom because you're a man. Women have to have that kind of awareness all the time. You can go almost anywhere without wondering if they'll serve you or do business with you because you're white. You don't have to think about that as a person of color does. That's doesn't make you a bad person, but you have the privilege of assuming you are welcome in most places in society. Minorities just ask you to remember that they have to be more aware of where they are, or who they're with, and they often are just not as welcome or safe as you are. It's not resentment, or racism, it's wishing you had more empathy for people who have it tougher.
A different thing I've heard is that Trump was getting his shoes off, so that he could move quicker if they had to run. It was stated that this is a common practice among some training programs for such things. "Let me get my shoes" could go either way, if one takes that explanation into account. The only ones that know for certain are the ones that were on that stage and in that car.
Appreciate you man. This is bad and i think itll just make things worse, also not to long ago some politician was trying to get rid of trumps secret service detail. Dark days bud. Love ya
@@Meryle25 Perhaps, but I've met many Americans, and I wouldn't call a single one of them reserved. Look at your politics, how partisan and useless it is. You're either a democrat or republican supporter either way half the country hates you for existing.
24:30 Look at the left sniper after he raised hes head and then look at hes rifle angle. He must have seen something mutch closer then hes rifle was originally aimed at becouse the moment he goes back on the scoop he instantly aims down by alot so my guess is that he saw the guy or something on that roof and instantly lowered hes rifles angle to shoot. The right sniper is prone so its harder to se any changes on him but the left sniper clearly saw something mutch closer. Its gonna be intresting to se in the investigation of this if the current head of the Secret service record is brought up Director Kimberly A. Cheatle. Her prior job before being put in charge of the Secret service was as a Senior Director in Global Security at PepsiCo. Maybe she hade security work before that job but going from security at Pepsi to head of Secret service sounds like a far jump.
I went to college in the early 2000s, so the kind of hate being spewed over politics doesn't surprise me in the *slightest.* Just being openly *Christian* had me labeled as all sorts of negative things.
I just read an official article from 2018 by Yale. In it, they literally used phrasing such as "exterminating all Republicans," and "needing to stop accepting Republicans [ into their school ]." No wonder this has happened. Yale, among all other separatists and fearmongers, should be seriously reprimanded. Especially those teaching our youths. That's politically discriminatory and completely un-American. How is that not hate speech?
Yeah, that bothers me too. This is the first time that phrase has been used like this. It's just an attempt to discredit him. He's the 45th president of the United States.
Im from Sumter South Carolina, born and bred. I live in Summerton sc. My parents are from the low country. They are white, and were born into share cropping families. Neither finished school. Dad never made it past 6th grade, mom 11th grade. Yet, they became successful within their lives through the sweat of their brow. I could sit and listen to these ladies all day. I love our southern culture. I love our people. Remember, God did not make race, race is man made. God created the human race. God requires the same love and behavior from everybody no matter your age, color. Circumstances, we are to love eachother as he loves us
There is an interview and a statement by one of the snipers. He was looking at the sniper for a full 3 minutes and asking for permission to fire which he was denied till the first shots were fired. In short they could have taken the sniper out had they been given permission to do so.
Basic playbook stuff is that you have a controlling presence in, on, or around every location with line of sight to the platform. And you maintain it. My Father and I were helping my Uncle shingle his roof during President Ford's visit to New Hampshire in 1975, We were about 1/4 mile away.from the motorcade route. A helicopter patrol hovered near us while my Father was sweeping the debris off the roof with a broom. He said he looked up and saw a sniper watching him through his scope. He held up the broom so the guy could get a good look at it and then the helicopter moved away.
According to some reports. The SS counter snipers had him zeroed in, but they were told to hold fire till the assailant shot first. Which is really stupid R.O.E."
@Stevarooni wouldn't be surprised if the individual SS teams make their own plans of engagement. Since obviously Trump's troop of SS would be completely separate from Bidens, Obamas and so on since each team is attached to a specific individual/ family.
Luke, I’m sorry I haven’t watched your channel in a good couple of years. I stopped watching around I started grad school for national security studies. I’m beyond happy to have watched this video to get back into the channel. I think we’d disagree on our approach to some societal things but you’re your own man with your own family so I totally respect your say. Thank you for this video, it shows the power of open source analysis and I love your perspective from the security POV. I love how you’re a naturalized U.S. citizen and despite moving are so passionate about what the U.S. stands for. I’ve been an OSINT analyst for a year now and alot of the times the biggest issue is the thing right in front of our noses but we can’t see it cus we’re too focused on the horizon, I think both structurally and analytically is where things might have gone wrong I hope the family is happy and healthy, gotta bring the ankle biters back to the U.S. to see some of the amazing nature and food of the U.S. South (where I’m originally from but now in the DC bubble) Per Mare, Per Terram, Mate🇺🇸
Y'know I'm with you on not really having a side. I'm sat here thinking the same thing "Is this really the best we can do? Why are we so obsessed with having old men as president? Surely there are better choices."
We were there Saturday the security was very tight going in. We stood in line from about 8:30 AM until they started letting people in around 1:00. It was 94 degrees they were passing out water. It was surreal. Then no joke I find out the guy lived on the street my father still lives on. He lived about 2 blocks away. That building had lower scalable portions in the middle section of it on the back side opposite the parking lot
Good reaction! A lot of people talking about this have no idea what the protocols are when such things happen (including me. since I am not a Secret Service member), but I do know you do not let the person you protect present themselves as a target again, after an initial attempt. That seemed extremely peculiar. PS: your cameras had a blind spot, so that is why I could get into your house. Just borrowed some sugar. You will get it back. (and yes, this was in jest, reacting to him saying there was someone in the house. Sadly, these days, there is a need of disclaimers like this).
It is the responsibility of every American to defend the Constitution, if the central government begins to circumvent it. Only the amendment process, requiring the agreement of 3/4 of the states, can be used to modify it. The popular vote does not change this, nor can the judiciary. So, Wyoming has the same power as California in this process. It is the continual erosion of the Constitution, with the purpose of moving the country to the Left, is the main source of tension.
The country is moving left. The whole world is. That's just a thing that has happened since humans began building societies. Conservative ideas are simply not popular whether in America or Iran. It is natural for humans to seek freedom rather than be ruled by some Supreme Leader's idea of morality.
@@jdanon203 All politics is about legislating perceived morality. The left seeks to grow the power and control of the state because they put less emphasis on personal responsibility of individuals in the form of safety nets and enforcing their idea of morality across the board.
@@jdanon203 Conservative ideas are very popular in more rural areas and less popular in big cities. The big city populations essentially have social disorders and cheer for babysitters over their lives.
It’s wild that the dude was wearing a “demolition” ranch shirt. If he was “right wing” and a gun enthusiast he would have A, been supporting Trump, and B, probably wouldn’t have missed the shot. It Doesn’t make any sense that he would be a “gun supporting conservative”
Especially when he had a Democrat-voting father and a libertarian mother. Might have those backwards by the way, but it doesn't really matter. I'm trying not to get into conspiracy theories based on just speculation, but everything about this seems so confusingly wrong and my instincts say this isn't as straightforward as people seem to want it to be.
You align with the majority!!! We think like you sir! What polarizes America is the thought that there is no middle ground! Less government! Less regulation!! Less hate!!!! That’s what drives the American spirit!!! P.S. Yes! America was weakened following this! Thank you for your unbiased opinion! Thank you!!
I call BS on that. I heard him say that, but they stopped for a photo op and I think it was staged. No security person would allow a subject to be that exposed for that long unless they'd specifically been ordered to. His head was uncovered! I was watching live on TV when Reagan was shot. It was a smaller area, but the minute that sound was heard, Reagan was under a pile of agents and not seen again. They pounced on him so fast he didn't have time to realize he'd been hit. He was at the hospital while people in his group were still at the scene bleeding on the ground. I saw none of that urgency Saturday. People on the ground saw that kid before the SS snipers did. And the kid has almost no internet presence. I keep hearing "Lee Harvey Crooks" when I see the video.
@@inmommashands7139 Why are you assuming I haven't? I've seen multiple eyewitness videos and watched the video of the event multiple times from multiple perspectives. I've read statements from officers, government officials, Intelligence officers and some of the best snipers and security people working. You might want to think twice before assuming a person with a different opinion hasn't looked at the data.
As someone who was born and raised in Butler, this was an absolutely surreal moment. Nothing ever really happens here to make the news, outside of the local paper reporting on car crash fatalities and stuff like that. I know people on both sides of the aisle who went to the rally pretty much for the novelty of it, because before Trump the last time a presidential candidate campaigned in Butler, it was JFK in the 60s (I know, great track record we have so far). The one thing my city had as a claim to fame before this was the fact that we created the Jeep when the military was looking for a small vehicle back during WWII (we have a small festival every year for it), but now any time someone thinks of Butler it's always going to be the place where Trump survived an assassination attempt.
That kind of jives on the counter sniper going off glass. He may have been looking further off through the scope and then saw something much close which is why he looked up and then shot.
The most important questions to ask are where was the aerial surveillance and why was Trump allowed to even take the stage when law enforcement knew about the threat and the gunman for 26 minutes before any shots fired? The secret service has said that they couldn’t post anybody on that roof for safety reasons, so why didn’t they do anything to block line of sight? This was a complete failure by the secret service.
Where was the shooters vehicle?? Nobody is asking this question. I haven’t seen any video of police sweeping a vehicle. They said explosives were found in his house and his vehicle. But no video of this vehicle has been shown. Did someone drop him off? I did see last night one video showing a van on side of road half on grass somewhere after dark. But they haven’t said exactly where this van was. This is important and no one is asking about it. These “professional journalists” are horrible. Somebody, actually all of them, should’ve asked already where the vehicle was and how far he had to move with gun to building. Do we know it was an AR-15 or just an AR type weapon? I mean a PCC can break and fold in half which easily fits in a back pack. I saw a picture of the rifle and a black back pack on the roof after they had removed the shooter with no other person on the roof. I mean why was the rifle not secured already. There should’ve been someone there with that weapon or secured it already. Also, this location had been used before even though nobody knew except police the location of rally to 24 hours before. The shooter could’ve recon-ed this and other previous locations of rallies. Nobody is asking the correct questions.
Demolition ranch actually put out a video discussing about how the shooter was wearing his shirt, I’ve been a huge fan of Matt for years and it was heartbreaking hearing his video. You should definitely react to his video!!
You know the part about that that’s bugging me is people online were saying “oh I’m sure the gun lovers wanna ban guns now!” Or similar things or even “wow the MAGA cult didn’t have any guns to stop the guy but they love guns so much!” It’s kinda disgusting really how they think that way.
28:06 I believe if this event involved any President during his term; these buildings would have been more secure (possibly even having air support). In the early 2000s; President Bush visited here in Billings, Montana during his re-election campaign. There were 2 Blackhawks over head covering his convoy from the airport to the venue where his rally was.
I agree with you 100% the amount of people who will attack others or forsake common sense because it doesn't align with their political views is disturbing. Especially as someone who served in the military. I'm very disappointed in the American people as a whole. The entire idea of our political system is based on compromise. Something, it seems, no one is willing to do anymore.
Trump supporter here and I'll say flat out we need more people like you in the political sphere. There is entirely too much group think and no individualism..
A lot of the agents that were there to protect him were women who were smaller than Trump. To me that seems a little strange since when shots get fired they're supposed to shield him with their bodies. It's a little hard to do when he's a head taller than you
@@clydea.murphy2219 They were surrounding him, of course someone was behind him. There is no other way to surround a person. All the female agents passed the same weapons tests as the male agents. I’m sure she found her holster just fine.
Thanks for being one of the few who seem to be level headed enough to realize and point out that BOTH sides have been responsible for divisive/violent words/images etc. People from both extremes are contributing to the extreme divide. As usual both are still just pointing the fingers at eachother, and not taking a look at themselves or taking any responsibility.
The issue is not it happened to Biden or trump. The issue is that it happened at all. The security flaws in the whole thing with letting the guy get even remotely close is absurd. Someone with zero security experience could look at that and tell you that was an issue
dont you guys realise, the usa has so many weapons in the country it happens everywere. if it can happen in schools and universities, why shouldnt it happen there?
I think we're going back to the old C. Eastwood movie "in the line of fire".
when superiors say "he's overreacted"
I would say that "let's not overreacted" exactly what happened and it probably came from Trump's chief of staff himself
@FAL87 because the secret services are meant to be good at thar jobs school usually get Retired or out of shape cops.
@@FAL87 Shinzo Abe, Japan's former Prime Minister, was assassinated just two years ago in Japan (a country with incredibly strict private gun ownership laws), by an assassin using an improvised firearm. Criminals will get weapons anyway they can, if they can't legally purchase one, then they'll try to illegally purchase one. If they can't illegally purchase one, then they'll make one. Acting as if politically motivated assassination attempts are solely are a U.S. problem because the U.S. has a ton of firearms is utterly hilarious, open up a history book my guy. Also, schools and unis aren't actively being guarded by the damn Secret Service, so it's a mind-numbing comparison to be made regardless.
Not to mention that viewers/attendees tried to give the attention, but without positive results.
I don't care what side of the isle you associate with, this is unacceptable. Be it Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush 1/2, Clinton, Reagan..... Unacceptable.
Last Monday Biden said he wanted a bullseye on Trump.
@@margaretwentz4568 That is less concerning, bullseye is a turn of phrase. What is concerning is the constant accusation of "threat" of an 'enemy' & about how everyone who supports Trump & Trump himself are "pseudo-fascists" the comparisons to [funny mustache man]. Those are much more concerning & are continuing, Biden has continued to call Trump a threat & use the most incendiary language which would to many justify [destruction] essentially one step off from directly suggesting it acceptable.
@@pubcle inside job.
@pubcle 'fight like hell' is a turn of phrase as well, BUT WHAT ISNT, is "peacefully and patrioticly, make your voices heard".
Lastest report says they were trying to find him up to 3 hours beforehand, before Trump ever took the stage. Also they said there was supposed to be a sniper on that building but head of SS said they didn't put someone there due to sloped roof. Lie... because the sniper that shot him was on a sloped roof. There is video of him crawling up and two officers saw him with a gun. They still did not stop PT from going on stage. This will be covered up
I've seen some people commenting in some videos that they saw him in the roof before the attempt, they told the security but they did nothing. So if someone says, "Because of this or because of that secret service couldn't do anything" is a an excuse. Everyone saw that guy crawling in the roof with a gun who wasn't part of the security.
Not only that but the people who saw him first were some drunk guys who weren't even there for the rally
People are definitely getting fired
The issue with this argument is that ignores the reality of being in a rally crowd. No one said they “told the security” .. they said they were calling to the police but they didn’t hear/understand what the guys were saying. This a crowd of thousands.. a few people far from the stage pointing and shouting is background noise at a rally.
They did tell security there is even a video of one of the dudes directly yelling at a cop about it.
Some say that the cops were trying to stop him and the next roof next to “apparently” there were people next to him on the next roof that were cops (don’t know how true that is tho)
@@plotholedetective4166which dosent mean the message go delivered.
Both the Trump campaign and the Kennedy Jr. campaign have been requesting additional SS personnel for months, but they have been denied continuously.
Source? I know about Kennedy but there is no law that allows for candidates to have secret service protection. Trump gets it because he is an ex president.
RFK still doesn’t have it
A handful of representatives actually introduced a bill to strip Trump of Secret Service protection not too long ago.
This on top of the rhetoric from the Administration and their media allies. Biden literally said last week "need to put a bullseye on trump". Media voices said they needed "seal team six to get em all" and every single social post has voices regretting that the assassin missed. Nah, the Left and their government elements wanted this to happen, full-stop. Spade a spade.
In response, I like to imagine that FBI agent from National Treasure after Nicolas Cage steals the Declaration of Independence.
😏
"...How 'bout now?"
The people saying it was fake or staged are making flat earthers look logical and sane.
I'm not a Trump supporter but I wouldn't want anything to happen to him. I don't believe it was staged just like I don't believe it has anything to do with Biden. He was just sick
I respectfully disagree. A Trump stunt is a real possibility here. I don't know what really happened, but anyone who dismisses out of hand the possibility of it having been faked, is the one who is, IMHO, no better than a flat earther. I suggest that it is best to keep an open mind.
Best part they're the same people calling us conspiracy theorists.
You can't make this joke up.
@@nox22119 All they have is projection. They are everything they claimed to not be.
@@nox22119 I just find it funny too that there was a study that came out that said that Conservatives/Republicans were more susceptible to conspiracies, not anymore lol.
I feel so bad for demo ranch, his videos are getting bombarded with people blaming him for the shooting. absolutely unreal.
HUH? How?
@@a-a-rondavis9438 the shooter wore his shirt… unbelievable
@@a-a-rondavis9438 shooter wore his tee
Which is ridiculous. It seems like the guy was trying to LOOK like a conservative.
@@UpperDarbyDetailing yeah, it’s just fuckin ridiculous, Matt’s demolition logo is basically his face, and it’s plastered on the body of someone who tried to kill DT. I feel so bad for Matt
How did they allow him to get eight shots off before he was neutralized.
? he didnt shoot 8 shots. he shot twice. How are you this dumb that you still think he shot 8 times?
not even just that, how do you allow him to get to where he is at, its suspicious all around.
100% sus
@@ItsStrayyyup…an UNPROTECTED rooftop in rifle range of your detail? That’s incompetence…or intentional.
Just think what he could have gotten off with a bump stock, now that they are no longer banned.
I am an old lady who has voted for democrats and republicans. No politician has been a perfect fit for me but I vote for who I feel will be best for the country and my family. Voting is a solemn privilege that citizens are tasked to do. We should understand that everyone uses their own life experiences to form their opinions and that is okay. Maybe we can learn from each other. What we don't do is physically hurt or do worse to those who differ with our opinions.
Apparently a local cop went up the ladder while confirming the warnings.. saw the kid… then ran away because “the ROE meant he couldn’t engage”… what horse shit
Your comment is horseshit. That cop most likely backed down because he was outgunned.
@@oROBBIEoYou mean like Uvalde?
@@domingollagostera3801 Uvalde was equally armed cops who were just scared. Not the same.
@@oROBBIEo it was stated that he didn’t engage explicitly because of the ROE… not because he was OuTGunEd… as if that matters given the circumstances
@@FireFlanker1 I heard the kid pointed his gun directly at the cop, so the cop backed down
Matt who runs Demolition Ranch said that he had gotten multiple phone calls from the media asking if he ever spoke to the shooter and he didn't know why until he found out on the news that the shooter was wearing one of his shirts
Back in 2008, I was a soldier stationed at Ft. Hood in TX. Cheney came to give a speech (I honestly can't remember the purpose). I drew the short straw and was stuck on the detail that had to prepare the parade field. We were out there weeks in advance prepping, stacking shipping containers 3 high around the entire perimeter and draping cammo netting over it so secret service had somewhere for their crack shots to hide. All of the nearby buildings were scouted, cleared and men were stationed on rooftops. This is on a secure military facility, not some backwoods town. I was impressed with the level of security. NOONE was getting in without us knowing. Furthermore, I met a few of these guys. They were all ex military and clearly top tier soldiers at one point in their careers. Its hard to imagine a 20 yr old kid getting the drop on them. Smells fishy, but what do I know.
@@adamjarvis9618 definitely sounds like this detail for DT got lazy and complacent if nothing else atleast
Trump didn't have presidential-level support. That level of support is provided to the party nominees, and even though Trump was clearly the choice since 2020, because the RNC hadn't nominated him, he had a lesser detail.
@@ethanblank8911 idk man. I accept that I'm no expert. Just a dumb grunt. But I'm certain that if a proper recon was performed, they would've put a two man team on that roof. Even Kmart security could handle that. And where was their aerial recon? A single drone even. I think it's more likely that someone let that guy in. I respect your input and thank you for conversing with me on this matter.
I was on medical standby a few years ago when Trump had come to my smaller town. Airport was shut down, anything that could possibly have a gunman on it, even out of direct line of sight, had either a sniper or a local LEO watching it. It's really bizarre how they screwed the pooch here
@@adamjarvis9618no you are 100%! Even if they had lacked SS and only had local. If they had a team of two local good old boys on that roof it would have never happened! You telling me some wet behind the ears, just fresh from mom tits, probably never really fired a gun was able to get pass all the local cops, and security?! It's just too much!
I was told long ago, Secret Service are expendable when protecting VIPs. Not saying life is worthless, but they are protecting something more important than themselves.
Well most of them are... The lady protects herself and has no clue what she is doing. Ladies shouldn't have badges.
I did PSD for 17 of my 21y in the military, I have been a body man for Congressmen, music acts, actors and even a defense contractor ceo.
There are many things being said about this but generally the SService protection is very small. Once he becomes the candidate his detail is the same as the vice president.
I know CAT members and Marshall's service protection detail members. Both would have been used if he was the candidate.
Yep, they told us enlisted fools we were classed as XB-3 ('expendable')
Secret Service are essentially the Royal Guard
They were protecting nothing of any importance.
The only question that matters is HTF did this guy get on a roof with clear line of sight 150yds away?!? It’s either utter incompetence or it was on purpose. Any 5 yr old playing fortnight or COD would ID that building as needing officers on top of it. People were yelling at the cops and pointing the guy out for MINUTES before he fired and nothing. This is how you get conspiracy theories.
Apparently a SNAFU-situation. Local police was responsible for all areas outside the venue, but they were also told that SS was running the show. So they though SS would do it, and SS didn't check that it was secured. It WAS identified as a danger position. Someone didn't do their job, for sure.
leaving that rooftop unguarded was purely intentional. Then Cheatle gave a horrible excuse as to why they left it unguarded. Mayorkas even tried to block Cheatle from testifying. This was sabotage disguised as incompetence.
It is either gross incompetence or purposeful neglectfulness. Both are bad.
It definitely feels like both
100 % Agree, There's no excuse for what happened.
The Trump Campaign asked for more protection but it was denied.
Source?
@@alexdeghost2729 RFK Jr. for one...
@@alexdeghost2729 Source????!!! It was all over the news here in the United States.
Repeatedly asked for more protection and denied. It's been all over the news.
@@GaBoyInKy Not all the news.
I saw Hillary Clinton when she ran in '16 at the place I worked at. While it was inside a factory, the Secret Servicemen were covering every high spot and any spot that line of sight of Clinton. The place was full of catwalks and overhead access areas.
You're absolutely right, we Americans should strive for better in our political candidates. I have been voting since the mid 60s so have seen many elections. In the last 20 years however, it seems most of the time my choice has been to vote for the lesser of two evils, with no best candidate in view.
Have been voting since then too. It is terrible.
We were planning our wedding at a saloon when it happened. My friend's father texted him right as it happened. We shouted it out and everyone went nuts and started looking it up. I was the first to find the picture of him pumping his fist and the entire place erupted into cheers that he had survived.
To be honest, when I first heard it, I thought for sure they got him. It was quite an emotional rollercoaster that afternoon.
You don't have to have any military experience to question this whole thing
i am 18 (19 next month) and i already had the chance to vote for 2 national elections in my country because the government keeps fucking everything up. I just have the feeling that its all a disney show, it feels like im in a fight about who gets to eat the last peace of candy in primary school everytime i talk to someone about politics. If you have a different political view than someone else it turns into a call of duty voice chat. It concerns me when i see people that are like 40 years older than me that i am supposed to look up to and learn from talk like toddlers because someone voted for a different person.
Being able to express yourself is important, but listening without interjecting your viewpoint will give you a clearer view of others. It can turn into a wrestling match, but you can choose not to wear your views on your sleeve and avoid some fights.
I’m 24, was at work yesterday, talking to a guy who’s 36 at length & he is nearly ready to want to abolish the government & start over, smart guy too just incredibly fed up. More ppl would walk by, hear what were talking ab & stop & hop in on the convo. The idea of creating “Patriot strongholds” like in the days of the revolutionary war came up. Older generations, usually a lot calmer in my experience but have been fed up for years or decades. Welcome to the club my friend
The key is talking to ppl who have similar views or if they’re opposing, well you’ll figure out how you wanna approach debating them. I don’t bother trying to change their minds most of the time bc it’s a waste of time. That’s why I talk to ppl with similar views most of the time, we have a productive conversation instead of someone ranting their opinions in my face & screaming like a child if I disagree. You debate & talk w the intelligent ppl who disagree bc they can actually have a civil conversation. Basically talk to intelligent ppl, not A-holes, crazy ppl, social media driven ppl, etc.
@@Stevarooni yeah i get that thx for the advice
I had heard that President Trump asked for more Secret Service and Biden’s administration, Alejandro Mayorkas, denied the request.
Does the president even have power about the secret service? Sounds fishy if you ask me
@@FAL87 yes he has freaking power over them. quit
@@FAL87 hrainwashed
@@chrisvibz4753rude as heck. Be civil or don’t converse in the conversation. Slinging insults and curse words get you nowhere. Shame on you
@@sarg778returnscodm7 well im sorry someone just tried to murder a gd political candidate and he tryna say its trumps fault? biden just said days ago “put trump in the bullseye” and he says that trump is a dictator ANY mentally ill person who is a patriot or is just a trump hater, since the guy was a registered republican yet he donated to a democrat organization, any mentally ill person could and just did take that as a threat. im fucking pissed off and sorry lord for my language, i dont need to apologize to any human ill apologize for my language in my prayers tonight.
I pray for the people lost and there families 😢😢😢
My little brother wanted to wear his trump hat around in the south and in some places he fears to have it on because of what might be done to him. Wether it's someone spitting in his food or actually trying to harm him, the fear is there and credible. He bought that hat 8 years ago. That is how long this has been going on and it's disgusting that anyone would suggest that it's our fault in any way. I not only live in fear that a left leaning person might harm me but I also live in fear of being cancled by the slightest miss step so no Republicans are not doing the same thing the left is doing. Meanwhile, mainstream democrats and celebrities have openly called for the death or harassment of trump or anyone who supports him for the last 8 years with nothing done to them but praise.
How? That’s the ultimate question right. USSS is considered the best in personal protection but this happened. They’ve come out today to say that local law enforcement was responsible for perimeter security and not their agents. To me, it seems that’s a really fast explaxantion by USSS on how this event was allowed to happen. Even before any real investigation has been done, the finger pointing has started. I was in the impression that USSS has ultimate say on security when it relates to sitting President and former Presidents. Their agents are trained to protect their principals. Local police aren’t. The quick finger pointing by USSS makes them more suspect of, either, incompetence or dereliction of duty. Both are equally bad.
And that's where I think it went south. USSS had pverall responsibility, local police was responsible for area outside venue. Someone either didn't do their job locally and/or USSS did not check to see that it was done either.
negligence at its best shape
Willful negligence
Think about this. RFK Jr was denied Secret service detail by the current administration, which given family history is wild.
they have rules for who gets protection - and RFK jr has not yet hit that mark. But i agree, family history should matter. the rules also have pulled Barron Trump's protective detail as well.
You would be blaming them for not having enough to protect Trump had they moved some agents away to cover RFK Jr. Don't lie and say you wouldn't.
I love how you repeatedly say “we”, you sir are American…
I think there were two critical failures:
1 - the secret service and local law enforcement needed to work together to pull additional resources. Local police should have been controlling access to all 18 locations with secret service oversite.
2 - local police needed to have direct communication with secret service for urgent calls. A local officer went to engage the suspect, but if there had been proper communication, he could have immediately radioed to secret service that there was a shooter.
I am sure there were other failures, but those two seem critical to me based on current information available.
They requested more security for Trump but was denied also the person in charge of ss is focused on diversity and wants 30% more women instead of hiring the best qualified.
Biden also denied SS protection to candidate RFK Jr. Whose father was ASSASSINATED. While campaigning for President.
You can clearly see they are totally confused and way too small to protect him. IIRC, high profile SS details are reserved for experienced agents, its like the reward position for career competence. Those 2 female agents looked like they'd never been outside, clearly noobs. The SS must be compromised to allow this much failure across the board.
She was also the former head of global security for Pepsico.
Women should not be in Secret Service, there is a reason there ar no females in Delta Force or Navy Seals..
Kimberly Cheatle on why that roof wasn't secured: ' "That building in particular has a sloped roof, at its highest point. And so, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. And so, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside," she said.'
Laughable 😅😂
The content that UA-cam channels like Jubilee and Cut are putting out is awesome because it forced people to sit down and have those conversations that you talked about at the end of the vid. I'd highly recommend that content to anyone, but especially to the people who shout at others instead of talk to them.
These attempts are wrong no matter who you choose to vote for.
Agree, only radcials/extremisits do this shit
The greatest question is how the shooter knew that roof was unprotected and unwatched?
A guy in broad daylight carries a rifle and ladder around a few hundred feet from Trump..?
This is what I want to know!
trump was pumping his fist chanting fight fight fight
this is a huge part of the problem!!
@@anpat3 It seems like a reasonable thing to say when you were almost assassinated. To tell people not to give in and to fight to win the election. Even when threatened.
Although I am assuming you are deciding to interoperate it as a call to physically fight, since that conveniences your stance. Even though he had never used "fight" in a violent context in any of his past rallies or speeches. Everyone else knows what he meant by that. Only people or wish to hear it as otherwise hear it differently.
@@Meryle25 Why do you assume only democrats will "hear it as otherwise"? I know there are plenty of republicans who will use this as a justification to physically attack democrats. There have been SO many examples already, even when Trump was president. I have no problem with Trump pumping his fist and encouraging his voters, or using this as propaganda for his platform. But he needs to choose his words better. "Fight" is one of the worst words he could've chosen. Though I can't blame him really, since I'm sure he was filled with adrenaline and shock from the attack. You can't actually just say "because it conveniences your stance" as if there is zero problem with Trump's words. That assumption is part of the problem OriginalHuman was talking about.
When the was signing up for my voter I.D. for the first time, I went independent. Because everyone always goes to extremes. I knew that at 18…
Same here.
makes no sense. you can’t even get into a concert with a diaper-bag these days!
"YahKnow what I mean" , yeah mate shit is getting crazy in the US 🇺🇸 😭😭
"getting"?
@@Zaximillian fair enough it's been crazy for a while now 😅
The Secret Service will have to answer for their incompetence. It doesn’t take a genius to quickly conclude that they screwed up.
the eyebrow raise when he said i got cameras around the house🤣 at 5:33
As disgusting as it is, it's not really surprising when we've had 8+ years of mainstream media outlets openly comparing Trump to "the mustache man".
What IS surprising, as you pointed out, is how insanely close the guy got while carrying a damn rifle...
And how the Secret Service said they needed to "investigate" before saying they'd failed. Like no, you clearly failed to do your jobs, that's not even up for debate, the only thing to investigate is HOW you failed so badly.
people are posting on twitter “DAMN HOW DID U MISS BRO YOU HAD ONE JOB” smh fucking nuts
I don’t like trump but he does not deserve this no matter what he has done or has been accused of
@@funnyboy2000ful thanks dude. he isnt racist, he isnt this and that. he is obnoxious but should not be murdered. BIDEN should NEVER be hurt either. im a Christian Mexican-American- im American first, mexican second. my loualty lies with the United States of America… people think we hispanics hate trump. NO we dont like illegal immigration either bc unlike trump said , theyre not taking black jobs, theyre taking OUR jobs….. theyre fedding off the government tit when we need to worry ahout our citizens. if they would just immigrate how OriginalHuman did we would LOVE them.
You can tell those are kind of people not once receive a threat where they're life is in danger.
@FAL87 No, he didn't. Who exactly said Trump said that?
@@FAL87 no he didnt
I worked with the Secret Service back when President Reagan visited OKC, headed to Tinker AFB. A major DOD contractor in the city was having an anniversary celebration, and when they learned Reagan was going to be at Tinker, they invited him to attend. The Secret Service contacted the company I worked at which rents motor homes out, to provide four motor homes for the president's detail, the media, etc. I spent many hours crawling around in and under those motor homes with agents, we looked at places that were vulnerable such as inside wheel wells, inside the motor housing, nooks and crannies within the chassis etc. A couple of the windows pop out for emergency exits, so we mapped those out and also removed all the propane gas bottles, went over all entrances and exits, literally the whole nine yards. Plus I had to be on-call that whole week in case the SS had questions, and made many trips out to the site to resolve issues. The SS was great to work with overall, very thorough and professional. During his visit, the protection detail was fantastic--what has happened to the Secret Service since then? I'm just dumbfounded by this. SMH.
Not just a rifle, he was also carrying the ladder that he bought from home depot on that day.
I did a photo search of the area. There was a police officer just a few feet from that door, people from the crowd was yelling at him and pointing to where the sniper was. Ln the video he started walking away from the sniper toward the front of the building.
He moved his head up becaise he was looking far way to begin with. He had to take his eye off the scope to readjust closer to himself since the shooter was so close. Thats why.
I agree. He was scanning out farther and had to readjust because his target was closer.
According to an insta from a dude claiming to be the kneeling sniper it was the guy laying who made the shot
why were they so slow to respond when the public alerted the police after seeing him on the roof
If police didn’t respond or report it then secret service had no way to know
@@Pikawarpsim calling i little bull on that
@@Pikawarps they said the police went on the roof and backed off instead of taking action. something isnt right
@@Pikawarpsit was confirmed they knew he was there for 30 minutes before the first shot ever was fired. They were told of a suspicious person and did nothing. There is a recorded video from a trump supporter that recorded him scaling up the building with his gun while everyone actively screamed and pointed that there was someone with a gun crawling up the building & onto the roof.. U can watch where they said secret service completely ignored them & did nothing..
@originalhuman I think the term we are talking is defense-in-depth. For him to get into that position and get a shot off essentially means that every single layer, including the inner cordon, failed, since the whole point is for the shooter to be unable to engage at all. As for the politics, the rhetoric calling for Trump's death even coming from the Administration is undeniably at fault, politics aside. When you ask, "Is this the best we can do?", you have to understand that governments are ALWAYS representative of the current state of the people, regardless of whether they do what the people want. Trump is a flawed individual who has been trying to fulfill the will of the majority (as evidenced by election, polls, and street interviews). Biden is a career politician (54 years in politics) who represents the extreme state of political corrupt in the US system. The fact that people would vote against Trump for "mean tweets" etc but permit the kind of things that Biden says (I'm not writing them here, you'll see why) while ignoring his dementia, reflects most poorly on the moral compass of Americans, as it means we are more motivated by emotional tides than a true ethical system. As for actual discussions, there are honest conversations out there, you just gotta know where to look. Steven Crowder, for all his issues, has several videos out recently where he has legit conversations with a variety of people. Even Ben Shapiro and Ana Kasparian had some civil discussions. The people who don't want legit conversations are the ones that try to shut down debate on the streets by screaming, who call the campus cops on street interviews, and who call for assassinations. These are the people, we can agree, are the ones we don't want to be in charge. At the end of the day, if an idea seems reasonable to you, but then becomes unreasonable when the political affiliation of the speaker is revealed, then I guess that reflects the emotion bias of the listener. A simple solution? People need to be humble enough to be introspective of themselves on the daily, and most people don't do that.
very well put.
It's Friday 19th of July and they STILL don't know how that gaping hole in security happened. The Secret Service says it was the Local Law Enforcement's failure. The locals said that the SS just wanted them for traffic control. Somehow I doubt it was the Pennsylvania State Police's failure. They have always been a Premier Agency, but it's difficult to find out how many State Troopers were there. I know nothing about the Butler local police.
I like how the Secret Service couldn't even holster their guns. Still fishy to me how this guy climbs a building with a rifle on his back and the Trained Secret Service didn't see him? RIGHT!
DEI hires of women without competence due to «diversity» goals..
In reference to your “privilege” statement. There are a whole hell of a lot of us straight white men that have never seen “privilege” and don’t know what it would look like if it spit in our faces, much like the rhetoric of calling a white person “privileged” based on the color of our skin. This used to called racism.
Yea I 100% get that. I meant more than just the color of my skin. It also included having a stable income and being able to like in 2 different countries. Being able to have them choices is definite a privilege. But yes to circle back you are 100% right.
You have always had white male privilege so you can't see it. It doesn't mean you're rich or don't have to work, or you have no problems. You don't have to check behind the door and in every stall before you use the bathroom because you're a man. Women have to have that kind of awareness all the time. You can go almost anywhere without wondering if they'll serve you or do business with you because you're white. You don't have to think about that as a person of color does. That's doesn't make you a bad person, but you have the privilege of assuming you are welcome in most places in society. Minorities just ask you to remember that they have to be more aware of where they are, or who they're with, and they often are just not as welcome or safe as you are. It's not resentment, or racism, it's wishing you had more empathy for people who have it tougher.
@@OriginalHuman Agree
5:26 It was me, a literal loaf of bread moving in your cabinets
They paused getting off the stage because Trump asked to get his shoes back on which were knocked off when they tackled him.
A different thing I've heard is that Trump was getting his shoes off, so that he could move quicker if they had to run. It was stated that this is a common practice among some training programs for such things. "Let me get my shoes" could go either way, if one takes that explanation into account. The only ones that know for certain are the ones that were on that stage and in that car.
@@latemanparodius5133 Yeah that could see that being true.
@@latemanparodius5133 the SS hit him hard to keep him down and it knocked his shoes off.
Appreciate you man. This is bad and i think itll just make things worse, also not to long ago some politician was trying to get rid of trumps secret service detail. Dark days bud. Love ya
The problem with the USA is that everyone wants to talk, and never to listen.
Over generalization.
@@Meryle25 Perhaps, but I've met many Americans, and I wouldn't call a single one of them reserved. Look at your politics, how partisan and useless it is. You're either a democrat or republican supporter either way half the country hates you for existing.
@originalhuman it was even closer, he turned his head specifically to look at the chart 0.5 seconds before the bullet hit him.
It does not matter who you vote for.. i hope we can all agree THIS IS NOT HOW WE SHOULD HANDLE THIS! THIS IS DISGUSTING!
Check out what Dan Bongino has to say about this. He did 12 years in the Secret Service.
24:30 Look at the left sniper after he raised hes head and then look at hes rifle angle. He must have seen something mutch closer then hes rifle was originally aimed at becouse the moment he goes back on the scoop he instantly aims down by alot so my guess is that he saw the guy or something on that roof and instantly lowered hes rifles angle to shoot. The right sniper is prone so its harder to se any changes on him but the left sniper clearly saw something mutch closer.
Its gonna be intresting to se in the investigation of this if the current head of the Secret service record is brought up Director Kimberly A. Cheatle. Her prior job before being put in charge of the Secret service was as a Senior Director in Global Security at PepsiCo. Maybe she hade security work before that job but going from security at Pepsi to head of Secret service sounds like a far jump.
I went to college in the early 2000s, so the kind of hate being spewed over politics doesn't surprise me in the *slightest.* Just being openly *Christian* had me labeled as all sorts of negative things.
I just read an official article from 2018 by Yale. In it, they literally used phrasing such as "exterminating all Republicans," and "needing to stop accepting Republicans [ into their school ]." No wonder this has happened. Yale, among all other separatists and fearmongers, should be seriously reprimanded. Especially those teaching our youths. That's politically discriminatory and completely un-American. How is that not hate speech?
@@Nicholas-ze5vv It's not hate speech because it's aimed at *Republicans.*
0:21 its president trump not former president. They dont use the former tag on clinton or obama
Yeah, that bothers me too. This is the first time that phrase has been used like this. It's just an attempt to discredit him. He's the 45th president of the United States.
5:52 caught us off guard 😂
Im from Sumter South Carolina, born and bred. I live in Summerton sc. My parents are from the low country. They are white, and were born into share cropping families. Neither finished school. Dad never made it past 6th grade, mom 11th grade. Yet, they became successful within their lives through the sweat of their brow. I could sit and listen to these ladies all day. I love our southern culture. I love our people. Remember, God did not make race, race is man made. God created the human race. God requires the same love and behavior from everybody no matter your age, color. Circumstances, we are to love eachother as he loves us
You my good sir….. are one of the most American individuals I’ve ever seen. Please come back because we need you desperately
There is an interview and a statement by one of the snipers. He was looking at the sniper for a full 3 minutes and asking for permission to fire which he was denied till the first shots were fired. In short they could have taken the sniper out had they been given permission to do so.
link?
@@AnonymousVenatorall I've seen was 4 chan. It aligns with the videos but obviously it's 4chan so who knows if it's him.
Thats 4chan. Not real
sadly they were denied extra man power
Rock on Royal Marine! You have a unique perspective being of dual citizenship and your life experience. Keep it coming mate.
Basic playbook stuff is that you have a controlling presence in, on, or around every location with line of sight to the platform. And you maintain it.
My Father and I were helping my Uncle shingle his roof during President Ford's visit to New Hampshire in 1975, We were about 1/4 mile away.from the motorcade route.
A helicopter patrol hovered near us while my Father was sweeping the debris off the roof with a broom.
He said he looked up and saw a sniper watching him through his scope.
He held up the broom so the guy could get a good look at it and then the helicopter moved away.
Many men
According to some reports. The SS counter snipers had him zeroed in, but they were told to hold fire till the assailant shot first. Which is really stupid R.O.E."
If that's actually the ROE...which I doubt...it obviously isn't the ROE for all protected individuals.
I don't think it was secret service. It looked like local police counter sniper.
@@Stevarooni authorization or roe. Snipers dont get to choose who lives or who dies.
@Stevarooni wouldn't be surprised if the individual SS teams make their own plans of engagement. Since obviously Trump's troop of SS would be completely separate from Bidens, Obamas and so on since each team is attached to a specific individual/ family.
Luke, I’m sorry I haven’t watched your channel in a good couple of years. I stopped watching around I started grad school for national security studies. I’m beyond happy to have watched this video to get back into the channel.
I think we’d disagree on our approach to some societal things but you’re your own man with your own family so I totally respect your say. Thank you for this video, it shows the power of open source analysis and I love your perspective from the security POV. I love how you’re a naturalized U.S. citizen and despite moving are so passionate about what the U.S. stands for.
I’ve been an OSINT analyst for a year now and alot of the times the biggest issue is the thing right in front of our noses but we can’t see it cus we’re too focused on the horizon, I think both structurally and analytically is where things might have gone wrong
I hope the family is happy and healthy, gotta bring the ankle biters back to the U.S. to see some of the amazing nature and food of the U.S. South (where I’m originally from but now in the DC bubble)
Per Mare, Per Terram, Mate🇺🇸
Y'know I'm with you on not really having a side. I'm sat here thinking the same thing "Is this really the best we can do? Why are we so obsessed with having old men as president? Surely there are better choices."
We were there Saturday the security was very tight going in. We stood in line from about 8:30 AM until they started letting people in around 1:00. It was 94 degrees they were passing out water. It was surreal. Then no joke I find out the guy lived on the street my father still lives on. He lived about 2 blocks away. That building had lower scalable portions in the middle section of it on the back side opposite the parking lot
Good reaction! A lot of people talking about this have no idea what the protocols are when such things happen (including me. since I am not a Secret Service member), but I do know you do not let the person you protect present themselves as a target again, after an initial attempt. That seemed extremely peculiar.
PS: your cameras had a blind spot, so that is why I could get into your house. Just borrowed some sugar. You will get it back.
(and yes, this was in jest, reacting to him saying there was someone in the house. Sadly, these days, there is a need of disclaimers like this).
You know, I'm proud to call you a fellow American.
Never knew you were a fellow citizen! Big fan of your videos 🎉🇺🇸🇬🇧
5:45 why does it sounds like he’s not joking at all???? 😂
It is the responsibility of every American to defend the Constitution, if the central government begins to circumvent it. Only the amendment process, requiring the agreement of 3/4 of the states, can be used to modify it. The popular vote does not change this, nor can the judiciary. So, Wyoming has the same power as California in this process.
It is the continual erosion of the Constitution, with the purpose of moving the country to the Left, is the main source of tension.
The country is moving left. The whole world is. That's just a thing that has happened since humans began building societies. Conservative ideas are simply not popular whether in America or Iran. It is natural for humans to seek freedom rather than be ruled by some Supreme Leader's idea of morality.
@@jdanon203 All politics is about legislating perceived morality. The left seeks to grow the power and control of the state because they put less emphasis on personal responsibility of individuals in the form of safety nets and enforcing their idea of morality across the board.
@@jdanon203
Conservative ideas are very popular in more rural areas and less popular in big cities. The big city populations essentially have social disorders and cheer for babysitters over their lives.
It’s wild that the dude was wearing a “demolition” ranch shirt. If he was “right wing” and a gun enthusiast he would have A, been supporting Trump, and B, probably wouldn’t have missed the shot. It Doesn’t make any sense that he would be a “gun supporting conservative”
Especially when he had a Democrat-voting father and a libertarian mother. Might have those backwards by the way, but it doesn't really matter. I'm trying not to get into conspiracy theories based on just speculation, but everything about this seems so confusingly wrong and my instincts say this isn't as straightforward as people seem to want it to be.
You align with the majority!!! We think like you sir! What polarizes America is the thought that there is no middle ground!
Less government! Less regulation!! Less hate!!!!
That’s what drives the American spirit!!!
P.S.
Yes! America was weakened following this!
Thank you for your unbiased opinion! Thank you!!
I trust the FBI as much as I trust my ex mother-in-law.
They were putting his shoes back on is why they stood on stage for a bit
I call BS on that. I heard him say that, but they stopped for a photo op and I think it was staged. No security person would allow a subject to be that exposed for that long unless they'd specifically been ordered to. His head was uncovered!
I was watching live on TV when Reagan was shot. It was a smaller area, but the minute that sound was heard, Reagan was under a pile of agents and not seen again. They pounced on him so fast he didn't have time to realize he'd been hit. He was at the hospital while people in his group were still at the scene bleeding on the ground. I saw none of that urgency Saturday. People on the ground saw that kid before the SS snipers did. And the kid has almost no internet presence. I keep hearing "Lee Harvey Crooks" when I see the video.
@@Morgaine why don't you look up facts from bystanders?
@@inmommashands7139 Why are you assuming I haven't? I've seen multiple eyewitness videos and watched the video of the event multiple times from multiple perspectives. I've read statements from officers, government officials, Intelligence officers and some of the best snipers and security people working. You might want to think twice before assuming a person with a different opinion hasn't looked at the data.
@@Morgaine well than I'm sorry I assumed you hadn't looked at all the data, now I know your just another lib
The guy BBC interviewed looks like your long lost American cousin bro😂
As someone who was born and raised in Butler, this was an absolutely surreal moment. Nothing ever really happens here to make the news, outside of the local paper reporting on car crash fatalities and stuff like that. I know people on both sides of the aisle who went to the rally pretty much for the novelty of it, because before Trump the last time a presidential candidate campaigned in Butler, it was JFK in the 60s (I know, great track record we have so far). The one thing my city had as a claim to fame before this was the fact that we created the Jeep when the military was looking for a small vehicle back during WWII (we have a small festival every year for it), but now any time someone thinks of Butler it's always going to be the place where Trump survived an assassination attempt.
That kind of jives on the counter sniper going off glass. He may have been looking further off through the scope and then saw something much close which is why he looked up and then shot.
The hardcore SOPs are for the current president. Former and potential are still not guarded as heavily as the current president
The most important questions to ask are where was the aerial surveillance and why was Trump allowed to even take the stage when law enforcement knew about the threat and the gunman for 26 minutes before any shots fired? The secret service has said that they couldn’t post anybody on that roof for safety reasons, so why didn’t they do anything to block line of sight? This was a complete failure by the secret service.
when you ask for com radio equipment & your boss hands you two paper cups & a string...
you know you're screwed...
Where was the shooters vehicle?? Nobody is asking this question. I haven’t seen any video of police sweeping a vehicle.
They said explosives were found in his house and his vehicle. But no video of this vehicle has been shown.
Did someone drop him off?
I did see last night one video showing a van on side of road half on grass somewhere after dark. But they haven’t said exactly where this van was.
This is important and no one is asking about it.
These “professional journalists” are horrible. Somebody, actually all of them, should’ve asked already where the vehicle was and how far he had to move with gun to building.
Do we know it was an AR-15 or just an AR type weapon? I mean a PCC can break and fold in half which easily fits in a back pack.
I saw a picture of the rifle and a black back pack on the roof after they had removed the shooter with no other person on the roof.
I mean why was the rifle not secured already. There should’ve been someone there with that weapon or secured it already.
Also, this location had been used before even though nobody knew except police the location of rally to 24 hours before.
The shooter could’ve recon-ed this and other previous locations of rallies.
Nobody is asking the correct questions.
You best start believing in conspiracy theories because they believe in you. Plus anymore they are just foreshadowing
Demolition ranch actually put out a video discussing about how the shooter was wearing his shirt, I’ve been a huge fan of Matt for years and it was heartbreaking hearing his video. You should definitely react to his video!!
Not too many people mention how calm the crowd was. I don't think any other kind of crowd would've been as stoic.
You know the part about that that’s bugging me is people online were saying “oh I’m sure the gun lovers wanna ban guns now!” Or similar things or even “wow the MAGA cult didn’t have any guns to stop the guy but they love guns so much!” It’s kinda disgusting really how they think that way.
28:06 I believe if this event involved any President during his term; these buildings would have been more secure (possibly even having air support).
In the early 2000s; President Bush visited here in Billings, Montana during his re-election campaign. There were 2 Blackhawks over head covering his convoy from the airport to the venue where his rally was.
The counter snipers seen him what happened was they asked for permission to engage and they were told no
Interesting, where did you find that out?
@PLUTOXGOAT there was a message that came out from the SS sniper that killed the shooter
@@DocMacheteit's fake news. Mark Dice covered it this morning.
That is not verifiable. USSS snipers don't "ask" for permission to engage threats-that would make absolutely zero sense.
@Cdubp01 unfortunately, with thie DEI hire back from PepsiCo, that's the new policy
I agree with you 100% the amount of people who will attack others or forsake common sense because it doesn't align with their political views is disturbing. Especially as someone who served in the military. I'm very disappointed in the American people as a whole. The entire idea of our political system is based on compromise. Something, it seems, no one is willing to do anymore.
Trump supporter here and I'll say flat out we need more people like you in the political sphere. There is entirely too much group think and no individualism..
A lot of the agents that were there to protect him were women who were smaller than Trump. To me that seems a little strange since when shots get fired they're supposed to shield him with their bodies. It's a little hard to do when he's a head taller than you
Trump is 6’3” tall. He was taller than the men Secret Service too, but I don’t hear you complaining about that.
But how about the diversity quotas???
@@deborahdanhauer8525 One of the women was shown hiding behind trump, the other one couldn't seem to find her holster to re-holster her gun!!
@@clydea.murphy2219 They were surrounding him, of course someone was behind him. There is no other way to surround a person. All the female agents passed the same weapons tests as the male agents. I’m sure she found her holster just fine.
@@deborahdanhauer8525 She was squatted down behind the president; you are not covering him like that, you are just covering your own ass!!
This is the biggest secret service blunder since Reagan
You should check out Tom Macdonald's song he just released about this. Its called "You Missed."
Thanks for being one of the few who seem to be level headed enough to realize and point out that BOTH sides have been responsible for divisive/violent words/images etc. People from both extremes are contributing to the extreme divide. As usual both are still just pointing the fingers at eachother, and not taking a look at themselves or taking any responsibility.