UPDATE: Turns out Setheck Halls doesn’t give Rep past Honored, so some of the sources I looked up were wrong. That’s okay though, because we’re also leveling faster than expected with this strategy. The good thing is you can move on to the next step and your Rep gains won’t be impacted too much of at all, and you will be at a good level. Hope this helps. UPDATE #2: Drop the Consortium Rep grind. XP gain is way higher than I anticipated, so drop that step altogether and focus on the Factions required for Heroics. It’s looking like that alone gets you to 70.
@@kilok199 CE you are good to do either the dungeon farm or Unidentified Plant Parts (or mixture of both) to 5999/6000 Friendly. Then do CE quests which will get you to Revered.
@@Finality you will have to put it off until the end. This is rather alarming and I wonder if it may be a mistake by Blizzard, because all the sources I am looking at show Setheck halls has rewarding Rep to Revered.
Hey there, great guide. I wonder if I'm the only one who got a problem with the CE rep: I opted for dungeon runs until honored, then I completed CE quests in HP, Zgm and terrokar but didn't hit revered. I found myself lagging behind for about 3000 rep. I wonder if I did smth wrong but can't understand what exactly
Sethekk Halls doesnt give rep over honored, so have to farm the rep till revered another way ps; amazing guide, knocking like 3 birds with 1 stone while lvling, actually made the lvling part enjoyable for me. thanks a lot!
This was a good guide, but the xp gains weren't that accurate. I was outleveling the guide the whole time and reached 70 way sooner. Still a great guide, regardless.
Just finished, let me know if anyone sees any mistakes or anything I can add in! docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1JjBqdwOlyLe4cp7zcuepbkOvUDfBtRJXeKaisYOFhlw
I'm following the guide for the most part. The only thing I have noticed is that I'm not under leveled, but over leveled. It's probably rest XP, as I have to sleep and work in between sessions.
Same, I’m about level 68 and a half at the beginning of step 7. Not that more xp is a bad thing, it just means going back to areas to farm rep will be easier I guess. I think it was because after I did the dungeon farms for a zone I would finish every quest in that zone as well, even if it didn’t award rep.
me too, im 65 before even choosing aldor or scyer... and i didnt get even close revered at cenarion exp, cant find anymore quests, and didnt turn any in before honored
So I came to the realization that when you say "do the zone quests with thrallmar/cenarion/etc rep" That doesnt mean the whole zone. 1/4 of Hellfire Peninsulas quests went to Silvermoon Rep and 1/2 or more of Zangarmarsh went to trolls. By doing everything you actually over lvl. Felt nice to finish in a completionist sense tho haha
@@Icosiol docs.google.com/document/d/1JjBqdwOlyLe4cp7zcuepbkOvUDfBtRJXeKaisYOFhlw/edit **Edit - This is a great transcribed follow along with this video. @Icosiol personally provided this link to me but I didn't see it in the description so I added it here. @Icosiol would you mind adding this to the bottom of your Description. It would immensely help out to use in groups as we level in TBC. Thank you so much for this video and guide!
Just finished making this into a written guide, let me know if anyone sees any mistakes or anything I can add in! docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1JjBqdwOlyLe4cp7zcuepbkOvUDfBtRJXeKaisYOFhlw
Until Honored do: Blood Furnance to lvl 61 --> Slave Pens to lvl 63 --> Mana-Tombs to lvl 66 --> Sethekk Halls to lvl 68 --> Start karazhan attunement --> 1x Hillsbrad --> 1x Black Morass and/or until 69 --> Turn in your Karazhan Attunement --> Shadow Labyrinth until 70 --> 1x Steam Vaults --> Attuned to Karazhan. This also serves you to get a good amount of the pre-bis gear from SL. Backtrack and start clearing reputation quests in each area to reach Revered (you can turn in your dungeon quests once youre Friendly 5999/6000). Or Shattered Halls --> Honor Hold/Thrallmar Rep to exalted. Steam Vaults --> Cenarion Expedition to exalted. Shadow Labyrinth --> Lower City to Exalted. Botanica --> Sha'Tar to Exalted - due note that Blizzard has confirmed that without a Flying Mount you will not be able to be summoned to these instances as was the case in the original launch of TBC. It was relaxed in a later phase. Black Morass --> Keepers of Time to Exalted. These all give you your prebis dungeon gear and most importantly familiarize you with the dungeons.
And if you want to min/max even further: Shattered halls --> kill first boss then reset dungeon (you can even pull the boss without going through the sewer by using the warlock spell "Eye of Kilrogg" Slabs --> Kill first 2 bosses then reset Botanica --> 2 first bosses + the plant trash after second boss Well atleast if its gonna be somewhat close to what people been doing on private servers of course.
There’s a lot of comparisons to the Dungeon Farm strategy vs this strategy that I am reading, and I think both are perfectly viable options so level with whichever strategy you enjoy more. Both strategies have their pros & cons which I think are as follows: Level for Rep (this guide): Pros - Maximized Rep Gain, Revered with most Factions at 70, Less Rep Grind to Exalted, Access to great gear and recipes earlier. Con - Slower leveling process, Less Gold from quests completed early. Dungeon Farm Strat: Pros - Fastest leveling option, Good gold earning potential with quests done at max level, Can’t be Ganked in an instance. Cons - Longer Rep Grind at 70, Limited access to Heroics at 70, Limited access to powerful Faction gear and recipes at 70. There may be more pros and cons, but these are what come to mind first. The important thing is you do what is fun for you.
I believe you'd be losing out a lot more rep with pure dungeon farm than most people think. I tested this on the Beta and at level 70 the quests in Hellfire, Zangarmarsh and Terokkar will only give you 10% rep (25 per quest instead of 250). This could happen before level 70, I wasn't able to test this precisely. Still, it's important to complete these quests while levelling.
@@Quplas There are a lot of good blue gear drops to get from the dungeons and a bit from rep vendors. That won't cover all gear slots for a long time, but green boe's from dungeons might help. Should be doable. Can also get some help from some classic consumables such as wizard oils, sharpening stones and Demonic/ Dark Runes.
Then don’t follow this guide. This isn’t meant as a “how you should” video. It’s just information should you choose to maximize Rep gains while leveling.
Hey I'm sorry but I don't quite understand this video at first glance, Am I supposed to farm beads/feathers/whathaveyou ontop of the dungeon runs? As to reach revered? Isn't questing a better option for this grind?
Same man. My guild is doing this shit and it just seems like a full on sweaty play style. People want tbc classic and no changes but meta game like this. Nah I’ll play it like I did back in the day thanks.
see-thek halls? stop saying see-thek. and did you say hay-lah? come on man. sar-jair-iss? what? how do you read a j sound in that? bee-nar? bee? as in bumble? you're american arent you?
Hey there, the video is really nice. Have you ever thought of making this into an in-game addon like zygors or something like that? I'd give my lunch money for it.
I have followed this guide, it was great, but I do have 1 comment... you really waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overestimated the exp gain. like WAY off the chart. i got lvl 66 by step 4, thats how off you were.
Very well organized. I'm going to cash the ~20 high level quests I have banked and finish off a number of lvl60 quests I have mapped out since I expect the day they open the Dark Portal to be virtually unplayable. I will then head into the Hellfire dungeons a day or two later. I figure being level 62-ish will help with groups, will make completing quests a little easier if I'm 1-2 levels above them, and will ultimately help speed up the rep grind/leveling process. Will definitely have your guide open on my second screen.
I respect that people take the time to make guides/videos like this, but this level of min/maxing every aspect of the game, makes me not even want to play it ugh... At some point you suck all the fun out of the game and just turn it into a full time job.
This is not meant to be a “how you should play” kind of video. It’s information for those who want to try and level in a way that maximizes their Rep gain and that’s it. I am a big proponent for individuals playing as how they enjoy it most, so if this looks dreadful to play than by all means don’t follow this guide. Go enjoy the game.
nice video! I'm just getting back into the game and have some leveling to do. Question; is this still the optimal way to do things, or did phase 4 make the reputation path less important to optimize?
If you play on a populated server, plants are super cheap because of how much offer there is. A stack of 200 costed me 30g in Golemagg EU (vendor price of the whole stack is 15g, to give you an idea).
Im leveling straight after your guide. Im lvl 66 now. Had to buy around 100 plantparts, even optimised your guide by killing naga instead of the elementals till friendly since I was lvl 63 entering the zone (higher dropchance for the plantparts & 5- 10 rep per kill to friendly). Did all the quests for the Expedition (of course after reaching honored) and dind reach revered (missing 3900rep). Farmed for the aldor emblems and hit lvl 66 when i got to honored. Havent even started to farm lower city rep. Looks like im super unlucy when it comes to Drops. The guide is still a nice help, but the lvls you should reach when hitting your rep goal are way of.
Im not sure if I am correct to say this, but I found this guide so helpful that I wanted to comment my experience as a discussion point. I found that in my personal experience doing the Consortium first before Lower City was best for me due to the level requirements for groups to run Mana Tombs v AC. I found alot more success trying to find Mana Tombs groups than AC due to being roughly level 63 when starting these grinds. Im not sure if this is the case for everyone though and hopefully there are no issues with doing so
Always do what works for you. Thanks for sharing your input. I am sure it will help folks. Be sure to check out the updated addition to this guide that I posted yesterday.
Unfortunately I will not be playing WotLK mainly because I hated that expansion. I will be moving on to other things soon, so expect different content going forward. I am glad you liked this video though, and letting me know. I do really appreciate it.
This guide is decent and I recommend using it as a loose idea of what to do. But I'm about halfway through it and nearly 68. So the XP gains are way underestimated.
Exactly right. With the little info that was out there about exact XP gains I grossly miscalculated just how much XP you will actually get. I am going to work on an update to this video now that we can get 100% accurate info.
@@Icosiol also nto sure if i did somethign wrong but in your guide you said you needed 340 marks of kil'jaeden for Belf to reach honored with aldor but it took me 360 not 340.
So I came to the realization that when you say "do the zone quests with thrallmar/cenarion/etc rep" That doesnt mean the whole zone. 1/4 of Hellfire Peninsulas quests went to Silvermoon Rep and 1/2 or more of Zangarmarsh went to trolls. By doing everything you actually over lvl. Felt nice to finish in a completionist sense tho haha. Reposting so newer ppl can possibly see
@@AssiraZero Right but as you can see by the comments its something thats overlooked by ppl and in the spirit of questing sometimes you dont wanna research everything, you just wanna run out the door so to speak.
Can anyone tell me if i should start farming BF at 58 on my booster character or should I do quests first, because he said in the video after all that you should be around 62 but if I started at 58 I would probably be around level 60 and that’s too low for the other zones
So for cenarion expediton u give two different options, but in the roundup u combine them both for the total? Completely inaccurate if ur using option 1, u will be 2.5k away from revered!
I do not combine the results. It says “Dungeon or Plant Farm” will equal 9,000 Rep (5,999/6000). Doesn’t matter which you do, because either will get you to Honored before you do quests.
@@Icosiol yes, and that 9k, plus the 9.5k of quests is 18.5k rep, u added 3k rep from the rare plant turn ins which you will not have if you do dungeons. This 3k u will not get means u will be 2.5k rep short like i mentioned. Also your advise to go to auchenai crypts at 64 is TERRIBLE. Last boss is 67, very inefficient. Do mana tombs untill 65, then do AC. I expecteded a flawless guide here, tnx for the work tho.
@@Ronafca Me an three Friends also found this out if you do the dungeon farm Op 1 you won't get revered you will be short as you won't have any plants to hand it..ideally you would just have to do Op 2, you can still do some later not sure if it will get me revered but it won't be far off.
Until Step 8 a wonderful guide that I plan to even use while leveling alts! Starting with step 8 it gets hard to follow the guide because you will be 2-3 levels ahead of what he thinks you are and the entire step 8 itself doesn't work because there were changes to Sethekk, but step 9 doing some quest to reach the needed last rep for cenario was a good tip and gave me the last 2k I needed
im leveling on live by your guide currently and im just letting you know your level curve seeems way too consrvative. leveling went way faster than expected. barely finished stgep 2 and im already 65
@@Icosiol I'm just about to start the UB farm (following this guid step by step). And I'm already 4 bars into 63. I'm afraid I might reach 70 somewhat early.
One thing that I didn't feel like you touched on. When you mention dungeons to run, like Slave Pens and Underbogs. It might be one less run in Underbog, but Slave Pens is SO much easier.
Underbog be like FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR. Now your equipment is broken. Enjoy being frozen and kicked back to Africa or having Bog Lord Booger crit you for 2.6k if you pull too much threat.
I found it better to quest until 70 and then do Steamvault, Shattered Halls and Shadow Labyrinth to get revered. Dungeon spamming isn't fun imo and in the ones I said the rep is in the 1,5k~ region while in Blood Furnace, Slave Pens and AC the rep is around 400-600 at most. Leveling to 70 also opened up a bunch of dungeon quests to get even more rep.
PLEASE HELP- im not seeing a way to gett the coilfang armamnets are they from cenarion ex quests??? at zangar lvl?? i ran dungeons and never got armaments from sp or ub is it because i accidentally skipped some cenarion quests google says they are mainly from higher dungeons how do get armaments for rep from sp or ub???
some of the quests for consortium in nagrand you cannot do once your over friendly, so you would have to do them before MT rep farm. theres only 4 quests left that are available after your over friendly. 2 give 250 rep, one is 10 rep and the other is repeatable for the warbeads.
As someone who has no plans to dungeon grind but does want to try out dungeons at lower level, this is the prefect middle ground for me since it helps out with the grind in the long run, not just early on.
Agree this is a really nice hybrid guide - I've seen a few of these now and this is the first one I'm actually bookmarking. I expect to do dungeons as much as I can, but I'll be coming and going and it's nice to have something speak to the blend of soloable content as well for times I don't have a group or am not confident I have enough time for a dungeon.
I would advise people to dungeon grind a bit or find another way to get to lvl 64 as farming for signets or marks can not be turned in apart from the initial quest to get 10 of the respective item after you turn 10 in for the first time you can not turn them back in till you are lvl 64 just a heads up for people before you spend a couple of hours farming those pesky blood elves like I did
While this is the optimal way to level it sounds horrible and boring. I feel people have forgotten to actually have fun while playing this game. And there is no need for neckbeards to comment here and attack me for having this opinion.
Dont do dungeon grind for CE if you want to hit revered. His math is WAY off. and he accounts for 3k rep from plant parts when you cant turn them in after honored.
one downside to this method, as a dps in a guild that really sucks at doing anything together outside of raiding... trying to get dungeon runs as dps and also not being able to do quests, im really falling behind the leveling crowd only 64 right now and still trying to get cenarion rep, just grinding plants
so if you need to do 12 runs of BF how many would you need to do if you do Ramps and if you know how many would you need to run if you wanted to split them up and do half and a half so you don't burn on on the same dungeon I'm only 38 as of writing this but still wondering. I also plan to heal on my paladin so do you know if there is like a sweet spot like run Ramps until I get blank items then continue doing BF.
I've been using this guide to level religiously, but I feel that I'm still very much overleveling even when I skip all the quests not related to outlands rep. I'm at 65 levels now and only just finished cenarion expedition quests in zangar, hfp and terokkar and the problem is trying to get dungeon group spams and I think I have to do both mana tombs and auchenai crypts at the same time too since I'm at that level range. Then I'm skipping so many outdoor quests that I might miss useful pieces of gear too. I should probably get an addon for checking gear upgrades.
My XP calculations were unfortunately way off and we are gaining far more XP than I had anticipated. Don’t follow this guide religiously. Use it to help with the factions that are important to you and go from there. Expect an update to this guide soon.
14:05 is lie. I did 5999/6000 Cenarion Exp. from dungeon and after i did Hellfire+Zanga all quests and i am 8011 honored. I did it same but idk what happend...
At 3:32 you saying, after you completed the Hellfire Ramparts and Blood furnace quests, you do all the cenarion expedition quests in Hellfire Peninsula.... don't you mean all the Thrallmar/Honor Hold quests?
I say “all but the CE quests in the zone” so you don’t do those. You’re safe to do every other quest at that level in Hellfire. You do the CE ones after you reach Honored with CE in the next step.
You want to do shattar rep before scryer/aldor, as the hand ins provide 50% rep to shattar. Also, doing Auchenai as a tank at 63/64 when the mobs are 67 is not going to go well.
UPDATE: Turns out Setheck Halls doesn’t give Rep past Honored, so some of the sources I looked up were wrong. That’s okay though, because we’re also leveling faster than expected with this strategy. The good thing is you can move on to the next step and your Rep gains won’t be impacted too much of at all, and you will be at a good level. Hope this helps.
UPDATE #2: Drop the Consortium Rep grind. XP gain is way higher than I anticipated, so drop that step altogether and focus on the Factions required for Heroics. It’s looking like that alone gets you to 70.
What about the rep with CE? I just have to complete all quest and I will hit revered?
@@kilok199 CE you are good to do either the dungeon farm or Unidentified Plant Parts (or mixture of both) to 5999/6000 Friendly. Then do CE quests which will get you to Revered.
Wait, so what's the strat for Lower City rep now if Sethekk Halls isn't the play? You don't mention any alternative to this in following steps.
@@Finality you will have to put it off until the end. This is rather alarming and I wonder if it may be a mistake by Blizzard, because all the sources I am looking at show Setheck halls has rewarding Rep to Revered.
Hey there, great guide. I wonder if I'm the only one who got a problem with the CE rep: I opted for dungeon runs until honored, then I completed CE quests in HP, Zgm and terrokar but didn't hit revered. I found myself lagging behind for about 3000 rep. I wonder if I did smth wrong but can't understand what exactly
Sethekk Halls doesnt give rep over honored, so have to farm the rep till revered another way
ps; amazing guide, knocking like 3 birds with 1 stone while lvling, actually made the lvling part enjoyable for me. thanks a lot!
What did you do?
@@MadvillainOG i decided to run shadow labs, very nice clears and rep
the value in clearing first two bosses in slabs is so much easier than sethekk
this is the way to go.. 100% rep focused progression, level will take care of itself
This was a good guide, but the xp gains weren't that accurate. I was outleveling the guide the whole time and reached 70 way sooner. Still a great guide, regardless.
well rested xp cannot be taken into account can it.
@@drumnbassdan Even with 0 rested xp you vastly outpace the guide and it's been acknowledge by the author himself.
Nice guide, is there a written version anywhere? Would be easier to reference than scanning the video. Appreciate it.
There is a spreadsheet online which is what this person stole and is trying to pawn off as his own guide
@@williamzeus8669 Source?
Just finished, let me know if anyone sees any mistakes or anything I can add in! docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1JjBqdwOlyLe4cp7zcuepbkOvUDfBtRJXeKaisYOFhlw
@@GuideFire Nicely done.
@@Fr0z0rz he won’t give one. I have been asking for it too.
I'm following the guide for the most part. The only thing I have noticed is that I'm not under leveled, but over leveled. It's probably rest XP, as I have to sleep and work in between sessions.
Same, I’m about level 68 and a half at the beginning of step 7. Not that more xp is a bad thing, it just means going back to areas to farm rep will be easier I guess. I think it was because after I did the dungeon farms for a zone I would finish every quest in that zone as well, even if it didn’t award rep.
I don't think group exp bonus was a thing in og tbc
me too, im 65 before even choosing aldor or scyer... and i didnt get even close revered at cenarion exp, cant find anymore quests, and didnt turn any in before honored
So I came to the realization that when you say "do the zone quests with thrallmar/cenarion/etc rep" That doesnt mean the whole zone. 1/4 of Hellfire Peninsulas quests went to Silvermoon Rep and 1/2 or more of Zangarmarsh went to trolls. By doing everything you actually over lvl. Felt nice to finish in a completionist sense tho haha
Same not even revd with cenar yet and 65
this guide is insanely under-rated. thank you for putting so much effort into it!
thank you so much for making this video!
can you turn this into a pdf so i can check it off while i do it?
There is a spreadsheet online which is what this person stole and is trying to pawn off as his own guide
@@williamzeus8669 got a link?
@@williamzeus8669 Can you link it plz
@@williamzeus8669 I am still waiting on that link too.
@@Icosiol docs.google.com/document/d/1JjBqdwOlyLe4cp7zcuepbkOvUDfBtRJXeKaisYOFhlw/edit **Edit - This is a great transcribed follow along with this video. @Icosiol personally provided this link to me but I didn't see it in the description so I added it here.
@Icosiol would you mind adding this to the bottom of your Description. It would immensely help out to use in groups as we level in TBC. Thank you so much for this video and guide!
Just finished making this into a written guide, let me know if anyone sees any mistakes or anything I can add in! docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1JjBqdwOlyLe4cp7zcuepbkOvUDfBtRJXeKaisYOFhlw
You sound like the human narrator from wc2, amazing
I was gonna say the guy from those "How it's Made" shows
damn, true af
Who tf is Sarjjjeras? :P
Probably a friend of all those Sheymans i hear about from other creators.
XD
Until Honored do:
Blood Furnance to lvl 61 --> Slave Pens to lvl 63 --> Mana-Tombs to lvl 66 --> Sethekk Halls to lvl 68 --> Start karazhan attunement --> 1x Hillsbrad --> 1x Black Morass and/or until 69 --> Turn in your Karazhan Attunement --> Shadow Labyrinth until 70 --> 1x Steam Vaults --> Attuned to Karazhan.
This also serves you to get a good amount of the pre-bis gear from SL.
Backtrack and start clearing reputation quests in each area to reach Revered (you can turn in your dungeon quests once youre Friendly 5999/6000).
Or
Shattered Halls --> Honor Hold/Thrallmar Rep to exalted.
Steam Vaults --> Cenarion Expedition to exalted.
Shadow Labyrinth --> Lower City to Exalted.
Botanica --> Sha'Tar to Exalted - due note that Blizzard has confirmed that without a Flying Mount you will not be able to be summoned to these instances as was the case in the original launch of TBC. It was relaxed in a later phase.
Black Morass --> Keepers of Time to Exalted.
These all give you your prebis dungeon gear and most importantly familiarize you with the dungeons.
And if you want to min/max even further:
Shattered halls --> kill first boss then reset dungeon (you can even pull the boss without going through the sewer by using the warlock spell "Eye of Kilrogg"
Slabs --> Kill first 2 bosses then reset
Botanica --> 2 first bosses + the plant trash after second boss
Well atleast if its gonna be somewhat close to what people been doing on private servers of course.
The first 48hrs are going to be horrible... but dem dungeons aint gonna do themselves....
Honestly you'll be lucky getting online in the first 48 hours, if you're not a streamer of course.
Can some boss of a person make a weak aura that basically does this guide for you??
Ohdang that's an amazing idea!
I finished zangermarsh at level 66, guess I did too many dungeons 😂
Im in the same boat
I’m almost 68 and am less than half done in zangermarsh.
i think imma be in the same boat lol, i just staretd Zanga, granted i decided to buy into the rep instead since it was pretty cheap(30g or so)
70 and Never did any quests, now i have rep issues, F
Same and didn’t even get revered like he said
Lovely guide and all I hear is "Now you're in the Ketchup Phase"
😂
And sarjeras instead of sargeras
wtf this auto played and your voice, i thought this was nixxiom xD thx for the vid boss xoxo
There’s a lot of comparisons to the Dungeon Farm strategy vs this strategy that I am reading, and I think both are perfectly viable options so level with whichever strategy you enjoy more. Both strategies have their pros & cons which I think are as follows:
Level for Rep (this guide):
Pros - Maximized Rep Gain, Revered with most Factions at 70, Less Rep Grind to Exalted, Access to great gear and recipes earlier.
Con - Slower leveling process, Less Gold from quests completed early.
Dungeon Farm Strat:
Pros - Fastest leveling option, Good gold earning potential with quests done at max level, Can’t be Ganked in an instance.
Cons - Longer Rep Grind at 70, Limited access to Heroics at 70, Limited access to powerful Faction gear and recipes at 70.
There may be more pros and cons, but these are what come to mind first. The important thing is you do what is fun for you.
I believe you'd be losing out a lot more rep with pure dungeon farm than most people think. I tested this on the Beta and at level 70 the quests in Hellfire, Zangarmarsh and Terokkar will only give you 10% rep (25 per quest instead of 250). This could happen before level 70, I wasn't able to test this precisely. Still, it's important to complete these quests while levelling.
@@justusroennau7035 wait..what? Don’t u get more rep at max level as a reward?
@@jacobymugatu9802 negative. You get more gold.
You could add the "full bis naxx T3" requirement for dungeon farming as a con.
@@Quplas There are a lot of good blue gear drops to get from the dungeons and a bit from rep vendors. That won't cover all gear slots for a long time, but green boe's from dungeons might help. Should be doable. Can also get some help from some classic consumables such as wizard oils, sharpening stones and Demonic/ Dark Runes.
Forgot how fucking annoying TBC was, this is honestly making me consider not playing it anymore Y.Y
Then don’t follow this guide. This isn’t meant as a “how you should” video. It’s just information should you choose to maximize Rep gains while leveling.
Hey I'm sorry but I don't quite understand this video at first glance, Am I supposed to farm beads/feathers/whathaveyou ontop of the dungeon runs? As to reach revered? Isn't questing a better option for this grind?
its one or the another u choose and no questing is not better
i dont get it.... i dont get any honorhold REP from the cenarion exp quests.. :P got 1k into honored only by finishing the cenarion stuf
"all but the cenarion quests in hellfire"
yea im just going to play the game and get it eventually
Same man. My guild is doing this shit and it just seems like a full on sweaty play style. People want tbc classic and no changes but meta game like this. Nah I’ll play it like I did back in the day thanks.
see-thek halls? stop saying see-thek. and did you say hay-lah? come on man. sar-jair-iss? what? how do you read a j sound in that? bee-nar? bee? as in bumble? you're american arent you?
Unfortunately sethekk halls stops giving rep at 5999/6000
Hey there, the video is really nice. Have you ever thought of making this into an in-game addon like zygors or something like that? I'd give my lunch money for it.
This would be gold! Something like the attune addon but with this information👌
Actual video title - TBC Levelling Guide: Chinese Edition.
Watched and loved this video. I instantly subscribed. This is guide is so thorough, mapped out and well explained, I had to follow.
Why kill boglords, wen those nagas give 7 cenarion rep each?
Thanks for making this guide, gonna be super useful to refer back to during early TBC!
I have followed this guide, it was great, but I do have 1 comment... you really waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overestimated the exp gain. like WAY off the chart. i got lvl 66 by step 4, thats how off you were.
Same, before I even got to Zangarmarsh I was level 63 1/2. Don't get me wrong, happy to get such a head start on the rep though.
Tell me about it, finishing up step 2 and nearly at level 65..
at least its the good kind of miscalculation! better to have more than need more
Very well organized. I'm going to cash the ~20 high level quests I have banked and finish off a number of lvl60 quests I have mapped out
since I expect the day they open the Dark Portal to be virtually unplayable. I will then head into the Hellfire dungeons a day or two later. I
figure being level 62-ish will help with groups, will make completing quests a little easier if I'm 1-2 levels above them, and will ultimately help
speed up the rep grind/leveling process. Will definitely have your guide open on my second screen.
I respect that people take the time to make guides/videos like this, but this level of min/maxing every aspect of the game, makes me not even want to play it ugh... At some point you suck all the fun out of the game and just turn it into a full time job.
This is not meant to be a “how you should play” kind of video. It’s information for those who want to try and level in a way that maximizes their Rep gain and that’s it. I am a big proponent for individuals playing as how they enjoy it most, so if this looks dreadful to play than by all means don’t follow this guide. Go enjoy the game.
ummmmm, you cant reach revered with lower city grinding sethekk halls though...
yeah exacly is mistake as fuk in this guide ;/ just waste a time
i feel like im watching "how its made", and i dig it
nice video! I'm just getting back into the game and have some leveling to do. Question; is this still the optimal way to do things, or did phase 4 make the reputation path less important to optimize?
It’s not important anymore. This is really only if you want to maximize your Rep on a fresh TBC server; which we won’t ever see again sadly.
96 thousand people will be farming mobs for feathers and plant parts xD
If you play on a populated server, plants are super cheap because of how much offer there is. A stack of 200 costed me 30g in Golemagg EU (vendor price of the whole stack is 15g, to give you an idea).
@@Ecliptor. on my server the plant parts are the same price as vender :)
@@michaelfulton8972 Yeah it's funny how different things turned out to be.
There's a lot more to Burning Crusade than racing to 70 in full T3 and getting into Karazhan in the first week.
Good thing this is not a racing guide. 😁
Im leveling straight after your guide. Im lvl 66 now. Had to buy around 100 plantparts, even optimised your guide by killing naga instead of the elementals till friendly since I was lvl 63 entering the zone (higher dropchance for the plantparts & 5- 10 rep per kill to friendly). Did all the quests for the Expedition (of course after reaching honored) and dind reach revered (missing 3900rep). Farmed for the aldor emblems and hit lvl 66 when i got to honored. Havent even started to farm lower city rep.
Looks like im super unlucy when it comes to Drops. The guide is still a nice help, but the lvls you should reach when hitting your rep goal are way of.
This is phenomenonal. Like and sub my friend ty. Don't suppose you have this in a nice Excel doc?
It’s posted in my Discord. Invite link in the description.
Im not sure if I am correct to say this, but I found this guide so helpful that I wanted to comment my experience as a discussion point. I found that in my personal experience doing the Consortium first before Lower City was best for me due to the level requirements for groups to run Mana Tombs v AC. I found alot more success trying to find Mana Tombs groups than AC due to being roughly level 63 when starting these grinds. Im not sure if this is the case for everyone though and hopefully there are no issues with doing so
Always do what works for you. Thanks for sharing your input. I am sure it will help folks. Be sure to check out the updated addition to this guide that I posted yesterday.
@@Icosiol Oh I hadn't seen the updated version, thanks again for the guide very helpful
the unidentified plant parts on my server were CHEAP AS HELL because people don't understand how valuable they are. got honoured with less than 100 g
People know, there is just a lot of plant parts floating around.
but how many signets do humans need?
I'd love to a see guide like this for WOTLK! :))
Unfortunately I will not be playing WotLK mainly because I hated that expansion. I will be moving on to other things soon, so expect different content going forward. I am glad you liked this video though, and letting me know. I do really appreciate it.
This guide is decent and I recommend using it as a loose idea of what to do. But I'm about halfway through it and nearly 68. So the XP gains are way underestimated.
Exactly right. With the little info that was out there about exact XP gains I grossly miscalculated just how much XP you will actually get. I am going to work on an update to this video now that we can get 100% accurate info.
@@Icosiol also nto sure if i did somethign wrong but in your guide you said you needed 340 marks of kil'jaeden for Belf to reach honored with aldor but it took me 360 not 340.
So I came to the realization that when you say "do the zone quests with thrallmar/cenarion/etc rep" That doesnt mean the whole zone. 1/4 of Hellfire Peninsulas quests went to Silvermoon Rep and 1/2 or more of Zangarmarsh went to trolls. By doing everything you actually over lvl. Felt nice to finish in a completionist sense tho haha. Reposting so newer ppl can possibly see
in the video description it says which quests to do
That is correct.
@@AssiraZero Right but as you can see by the comments its something thats overlooked by ppl and in the spirit of questing sometimes you dont wanna research everything, you just wanna run out the door so to speak.
If you start from lvl 58 instead of 60 this guide isn't too far off xp wise. Overall great guide, thanks for the hard work ☺️
Hmm, Sethekk Halls does not give me XP past honored.
Same here, ran it and no rep...
Can we expect a followup to the famous fishing and cooking guide any time soon?
Yes. That’s next on my list.
Can anyone tell me if i should start farming BF at 58 on my booster character or should I do quests first, because he said in the video after all that you should be around 62 but if I started at 58 I would probably be around level 60 and that’s too low for the other zones
I'm thinking same thing. I'm not boosted (lvl 44 atm) so i'm wondering should I do quests until I'm lvl 60 or what.
So for cenarion expediton u give two different options, but in the roundup u combine them both for the total? Completely inaccurate if ur using option 1, u will be 2.5k away from revered!
I do not combine the results. It says “Dungeon or Plant Farm” will equal 9,000 Rep (5,999/6000). Doesn’t matter which you do, because either will get you to Honored before you do quests.
@@Icosiol yes, and that 9k, plus the 9.5k of quests is 18.5k rep, u added 3k rep from the rare plant turn ins which you will not have if you do dungeons. This 3k u will not get means u will be 2.5k rep short like i mentioned.
Also your advise to go to auchenai crypts at 64 is TERRIBLE. Last boss is 67, very inefficient. Do mana tombs untill 65, then do AC. I expecteded a flawless guide here, tnx for the work tho.
@@Ronafca Me an three Friends also found this out if you do the dungeon farm Op 1 you won't get revered you will be short as you won't have any plants to hand it..ideally you would just have to do Op 2, you can still do some later not sure if it will get me revered but it won't be far off.
Until Step 8 a wonderful guide that I plan to even use while leveling alts! Starting with step 8 it gets hard to follow the guide because you will be 2-3 levels ahead of what he thinks you are and the entire step 8 itself doesn't work because there were changes to Sethekk, but step 9 doing some quest to reach the needed last rep for cenario was a good tip and gave me the last 2k I needed
I am making a quick video that makes adjustments to this one precisely because of that problem.
@@Icosiol I think I saw the updated video but it wasn't as nice to follow so I just sticked with the original and adjustet the small issues myself.
im leveling on live by your guide currently and im just letting you know your level curve seeems way too consrvative. leveling went way faster than expected. barely finished stgep 2 and im already 65
I am finding the same thing, and I am not as far as you are. What did you do for CE? Dungeon grind or Plant Parts grind?
@@Icosiol I'm just about to start the UB farm (following this guid step by step). And I'm already 4 bars into 63. I'm afraid I might reach 70 somewhat early.
@@Icosiol did all dungeons. they give quite a lot of xp it seems
I've followed this guide every step of the way, but I'm about to dring 70 and have just completed stage 5...
Check out the update video posted yesterday.
One thing that I didn't feel like you touched on.
When you mention dungeons to run, like Slave Pens and Underbogs. It might be one less run in Underbog, but Slave Pens is SO much easier.
Underbog be like FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR. Now your equipment is broken. Enjoy being frozen and kicked back to Africa or having Bog Lord Booger crit you for 2.6k if you pull too much threat.
I found it better to quest until 70 and then do Steamvault, Shattered Halls and Shadow Labyrinth to get revered. Dungeon spamming isn't fun imo and in the ones I said the rep is in the 1,5k~ region while in Blood Furnace, Slave Pens and AC the rep is around 400-600 at most. Leveling to 70 also opened up a bunch of dungeon quests to get even more rep.
Dude you’re the best man I was overwhelmed and now I’m not
PLEASE HELP- im not seeing a way to gett the coilfang armamnets are they from cenarion ex quests??? at zangar lvl?? i ran dungeons and never got armaments from sp or ub is it because i accidentally skipped some cenarion quests google says they are mainly from higher dungeons how do get armaments for rep from sp or ub???
you may want to review your guide... Sethekk Halls stop giving exp after 5999/6000
For those who are interested in Consortium rep (mind the update from the author saying skip it on the way to 70), don't forget the Ivory Tusks quest.
This is fucking amazing. Like.. bro you really did your thing in this video.
You dont..... i learned this the hard way.
Everything will be alright is the last quest in a 7-quest chain that includes killing a couple elites that will definitely require a group.
Several quests to complete will be group quests.
some of the quests for consortium in nagrand you cannot do once your over friendly, so you would have to do them before MT rep farm. theres only 4 quests left that are available after your over friendly. 2 give 250 rep, one is 10 rep and the other is repeatable for the warbeads.
As someone who has no plans to dungeon grind but does want to try out dungeons at lower level, this is the prefect middle ground for me since it helps out with the grind in the long run, not just early on.
Agree this is a really nice hybrid guide - I've seen a few of these now and this is the first one I'm actually bookmarking. I expect to do dungeons as much as I can, but I'll be coming and going and it's nice to have something speak to the blend of soloable content as well for times I don't have a group or am not confident I have enough time for a dungeon.
This video is all automated and fake and horrible. ZMispronounves half the dungeons, cringe
I would advise people to dungeon grind a bit or find another way to get to lvl 64 as farming for signets or marks can not be turned in apart from the initial quest to get 10 of the respective item after you turn 10 in for the first time you can not turn them back in till you are lvl 64 just a heads up for people before you spend a couple of hours farming those pesky blood elves like I did
I like the guide, but you can't get more rep then the 5999/6000 friendly in sethekk halls
While this is the optimal way to level it sounds horrible and boring. I feel people have forgotten to actually have fun while playing this game. And there is no need for neckbeards to comment here and attack me for having this opinion.
Dont do dungeon grind for CE if you want to hit revered. His math is WAY off. and he accounts for 3k rep from plant parts when you cant turn them in after honored.
im confused. hell fire onlu has 1800 rep available. where do you get 10k?
Gonna be following this guide for my reputation grind while leveling! Thanks for the awesome video
one downside to this method, as a dps in a guild that really sucks at doing anything together outside of raiding... trying to get dungeon runs as dps and also not being able to do quests, im really falling behind the leveling crowd only 64 right now and still trying to get cenarion rep, just grinding plants
I've hit in 2007 Revered HH and CE at level 66. Too bad it was on alt to see what I've done wrong on main stuck in rep grind to do heroics...
so if you need to do 12 runs of BF how many would you need to do if you do Ramps and if you know how many would you need to run if you wanted to split them up and do half and a half so you don't burn on on the same dungeon I'm only 38 as of writing this but still wondering. I also plan to heal on my paladin so do you know if there is like a sweet spot like run Ramps until I get blank items then continue doing BF.
This rep > xp is so wrong. You want to hit 70 asap and you're going to be farming dungeons anyway so you're just wasting time.
Doing this now on my tank
"San-gween High-Biscuit" LMAO
A lot of effort put into this, will definitely be referencing this as I level. Thanks!
I think mana tombs is before crypts. 64 mana tombs. 65 crypts. If I’m not mistaken.
Very informative and professional, subscribed!
Reminds me of a runescape guide. Will be very useful thanks for this
for unidentified plant parts you should farm the fish in the lakes. very low hp and very good drop rate for the plant parts.
The amount of signets for Draenei was off. It's 360, not 340.
I've been using this guide to level religiously, but I feel that I'm still very much overleveling even when I skip all the quests not related to outlands rep. I'm at 65 levels now and only just finished cenarion expedition quests in zangar, hfp and terokkar and the problem is trying to get dungeon group spams and I think I have to do both mana tombs and auchenai crypts at the same time too since I'm at that level range. Then I'm skipping so many outdoor quests that I might miss useful pieces of gear too. I should probably get an addon for checking gear upgrades.
My XP calculations were unfortunately way off and we are gaining far more XP than I had anticipated. Don’t follow this guide religiously. Use it to help with the factions that are important to you and go from there. Expect an update to this guide soon.
ATTENTION: The first quest to get the flight when you go through the portal gives 250 Honor Hold/Thrallmar Reputation!
True. I made that mistake myself, but that’s okay. Can still be Revered at 70 after SH.
@@Icosiol Great video btw excellently comunicated. I made sure to share this with my guild to help them make this smart choice in leveling to 70.
The Legendary Noob-Guild of "Spätifreunde-Spandau" was here.
Thx for the Guide
How to ruin your TBC comeback. Grind 70 dungeons without doing single quest. Yep, you will hate this game instead of enjoying it.
Slavepens is far more efficient than UB with mages :D
Another guide illustrating how to not enjoy the game but instead progress thru the content as quickly as possible.
As fast as possible? Mmm...not so much. Not this one.
minmaxing the fun out of the game
thank you for this no wonder tbc private servers were dead but this is bettr on live probably
14:05 is lie. I did 5999/6000 Cenarion Exp. from dungeon and after i did Hellfire+Zanga all quests and i am 8011 honored. I did it same but idk what happend...
isnt step 8 wrong since sethekk halls doesnt give rep after honored or am i missing something?
how do i get rep for lower city? im at honored but setthik halls doesnt give rep
nice guide but sethekk halls doenst give me any rep after honored
Cenarion expedition quest yield no Thrallmar rep at all ???????
At 3:32 you saying, after you completed the Hellfire Ramparts and Blood furnace quests, you do all the cenarion expedition quests in Hellfire Peninsula.... don't you mean all the Thrallmar/Honor Hold quests?
I say “all but the CE quests in the zone” so you don’t do those. You’re safe to do every other quest at that level in Hellfire. You do the CE ones after you reach Honored with CE in the next step.
@@Icosiol I hear it now, thank you :)
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
Sethek Halls doesnt give Rep until Rev :) fyi
Nice work. But when happened the shattar grind? 🤔
Good info, but it is making me not even want to play tbc anymore.
You want to do shattar rep before scryer/aldor, as the hand ins provide 50% rep to shattar. Also, doing Auchenai as a tank at 63/64 when the mobs are 67 is not going to go well.