Apologists Turn on Christian Resurrection Scholar (feat. Dr Dale Allison)
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RE: McLatchie: If I have to pick between all or nothing, then I'm picking nothing until the supernatural elements of the Bible are deomonstrably verified. Thanks anyway, buddy.
Definitely interested in Dr. Allison's course, looking at my money situation now.
Paul, do I need to buy Dr. Allison's book to get the most out of his course?
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What's wrong with "I believe but I don't really know", it's a much more honest answer than the typical apologist gives.
Honesty doesn’t sell the Bible
Because, that will bring in doubt.
”[Doubt] is the path to the [truth]. [Doubt] leads to [questioning]. [Questioning] leads to [answers]. [Answers] lead to [truth].”
I think it devolves into a dichotomy of willful ignorance or intellectual dishonesty. Which is fine, many apologists are intellectually dishonest, willful ignorance is at least honest.
I would not call Allison an apologist. He is a genuine scholar, even though I disagree with his ultimate conclusion.
The fact that Dale Allison does not know who Frank Turdek is shows how pure of heart (and mind) he is. Truly an angelic hero ❤
Surely, he must be the son of god.
Blessed is he who doesn’t smash their head against a rock after listening to Turek.
It's fair to say that most reasonable and educated people have no idea who he is. When they find out, they're horrified
@@hank_says_thingseh, when I was a Christian I found some of his videos very interesting. Now I see that I just watched them for personal reaffirmation of my faith, not to learn. I was happy seeing people who were older than me talking in front of an audience about stuff I wanted to be true. Turek is the Richard Dawkins of Christianity.
@@logans.butler285 Most apologists are forthright that their work is not to convince non-believers, but to strengthen the faith of current believers.
Dr Allison, thank you for coming on Paul’s channel. You come across as such a genuine person. I kind of wanted to cry when you said , “Maybe I’m a hard hearted person.” No sir, you are definitely not.
100% agree.
Dr. Allison, I very much appreciate your approach and your rigor in intellectual pursuit. Though I don't know much of your work, what I am aware of at this time sparks a high level of respect. Thank you for your work and your quests, both personal and professional.
Name a more incredible crossover channel for religious discussions than this. This is why I love your work, Paul. You don't just talk the talk on your own; you welcome the other side onto your show, giving them the stage to state their case clearly and fairly. So much appreciation to Dr. Allison for coming!
Thank you, David.
Hear hear.
He only has people on who ageee with his views. He is not looking for truth.
@@jamiehudson3661 they are literally a Christian and an Atheist
@shaderunner9582 One who claims he is a Christian who is outside the norms in his beliefs who just happens to align with Paulogia's historical views on Jesus. He would never have a Chrstian historian like NT Wright on.
Dr. Dale C. Allison Jr is, without a doubt, my preferred Christian scholar with his modest and truthful style. I concur with many of his views, although I suspect he may believe that the Gospels contain more memories than I do. Frankly, I'm unsure how one can determine the degree of memory retention when clever storytelling and mythology have overlaid the original text.
Dr. Allison's historical examination of the Quest for the historical Jesus is unparalleled and indispensable for anyone who is genuinely interested in New Testament studies. I highly recommend his course!
@MythVision Podcast I’ve occasionally heard apologists argue for special memory retention or, more commonly, highly robust oral transmission among ancient people.
I find this highly suspect because to test an _account_ for any given event you’d have to objectively know in detail what _actually happened_ (somehow) and compare it to the account. And never mind trying to figure out how true the written version is to what was being passed by word of mouth in the first place...especially thousands of years ago.
Highly robust oral traditions are evidenced; we know this has/can occur. But that phrases are catchy does not argue for it's truth, or even utility.
I agree Derek!
Although my beliefs about the Resurrection are more in line with Mike Licona and N.T. Wright, Dale Allison’s humble attitude is something I’m going to take to heart when I study New Testament studies in the university after high school!!!
@ruth oglesby I would not contest that this could happen, but I am skeptical whether it did in the context we’re speaking about here. Short of having a video record of an event, it’d be very difficult to verify the accuracy of 1) the “telling” as compared to the actual event and 2) the most recent oral or written version as compared to the original telling.
To some degree we could otherwise verify hard facts, like “this city was destroyed” by archaeological evidence; but establishing who said what would be near impossible.
@@derinderruheliegt Right. My point is fidelity in transmission of any data is not evidence of the truth of validity of said transmission, be it the Bible or the Illiad.
It seems to me that Apologetics is basically Religious politics. Apologists defend their a priori position no matter what. Some of them go out of their way to slander dissident opinions.
Apologists are salespersons. Go out there and sell the product by whatever means necessary. I feel sorry for them, because their product is backed by so little convincing evidence.
Our reason is primarily a lawyer, not a detective.
They absolutely do, which is why they purposefully misinterpret Matthew 16, and Mark 9 to say that Jesus was talking about the transfiguration or the ascension, when he was clearly talking about the second coming.
@@timothymulholland7905Ditto with politicians. I think you're in agreement with each other.
agreed, they are what we in the UK call "spin doctors", take a war over oil and make it a humanitarian mission. god kills for real estate, if they'd realised what oil was back then god would have been after that too.
Its pretty gross that some appologists will go so far as accusing a fellow believer of not being a christain just because their more critical of the historic facts of their religion. Its such a toxic "us versus them" mentality.
Add to that all this talking down being aimed at a scholar whose done more useful work/research then they probably ever will
Agree
It's sad but at least it makes it ever more obvious to a neutral observer how little "scholarly consensus" even exists on this despite what folks like Frank would have you believe.
Those apologists don't get to dictate their own definition of who is a "true" Christian.
@@asagoldsmith3328 I studied theology at the University of Bamberg in Germany and there is no "scholarly consensus" on basically anything in theology. That's what's so interesting about it. At least I thought so. There are many interesting theories about things - even things that seem "historical" at first, like dating the gospels. But even these are things were barely anything can be said with certainty. Most is based on the texts alone and how they relate to historic events.
I found it highly fascinating. I think trying to come up with "proof" for anything in the new testament is wasted time.
Thats usually the first sign, and only, for stopping listening to people. When you resort that, you simply are not, well, ANYTHING worth listening to.
The teaching company has a great course on the historical jesus, and as is obvious, there is certainly no 'consensus' or there certainly would not be more than one religion, end of story.
The fact that Dr. Allison has heroes that contradict on each other on many levels and still take the best from them and be able to remain critical in his own faith is VERY interesting. Much respect. We atheists are not always exposed to this level of thinking. Thank you Paul for bringing him to this episode!
Yeah this is actually kinda cool, I find it hard to believe having this view and remaining theistic. But I love how he goes about it he's so kind hearted you can only like him.
@@jana731 right, I have the same idea in my head but who knows, maybe he is in process of that….
When someone wakes up as a Paulogia cartoon: “Your appearance now is what we call your residual self image. I have muscles, you have hair, he is a rhinoceros, etc”
That sounds like one of those irregular verbs: "I have an independent mine, your are eccentric, and he is round the twist." -- Sir Bernard Woolley.
@@michaelsommers2356 😂 it does!
the blinking eyed Barney Rubble of internet HAThEisms...
"You have been assimilated. Your likeness has been added to our collective"
After dealing with religious apologists online for years, I’ve noticed that the one thing they like more than arguing with atheists is arguing against other theists.😈
People with marginally different beliefs will always be the most galling.
They're the mirror darkly. Reflecting you while showing that your conclusions are maybe not as solid as you thought.
@@rainbowkrampus Religious apologists are like little children who can’t face the fact that no conclusions are very solid.🤡
Oh no no no. Apologists never argue with other members of their religion. Look at what's happening with Dr. Allison here. They're saying he *isn't* a member of their religion. To most apologists, anyone who disagrees with you by definition is not a member of your religion.
@@stefanowohsdioghasdhisdg4806 This is how Fundamentalism works. It draws a narrower and narrower circle of inclusions, both intellectually and spiritually.
Dr. Allison's humility is so unbelievably refreshing... Whatever side of this debate one is one, one has to tip one's hat to him for his incredibly high standards for historicity and found opinion. And, as always, thanks to Paul for his never ending quest to bring reasoned debate to the peoples' search for truth.
And yet, avid Christians claim he can't be a "real" Christian...
Can't wait to see this quote on the back of Frank's next book:
"Who's the first person, just out of curiosity?" - Dr. Dale Allison
I can smell the burn from the other side of the Atlantic.
"You don't know Christian Apologist Frank Turek? Ohhh how I envy you Dr. Allison!" Truer words were never spoken!
These people would never look at historical evidence and conclude that the miracles of *any other religion* are the most logical reason for *anything* . So they are among the worst of hypocrites.
If you let in the supernatural, you actually can't be sure of anything.
You can be sure of one thing
......then you missed the whole point of Dr.Allison...you'd barely know it from this podcast (28:42)...but, no actually right now it is the skeptics who are after him with their knives...Allison's latest work basically undoes David Hume's proto-modernist denial of miracles ...and based on consistent historical evidence ...
go back and listen very closely to the last part where he tries to inject that in...or watch Dale Allison's "is there Evidence of Miracles" from a week or two ago on "Unbelievable" podcast..
@@tompatterson1548 yeah, it’s bullshit
"Timmy, where is your homework?"
"A wizard ate it."
I have to say, I just looked at the sub count and I'm kind of blown away at how undersubscribed Paul is. I watch every single video and I have learned so much. About early Christian history, modern theology, The Academy, and the various sub-cultures of apologetics. His standards of intellectual honesty and quality of work are beyond reproach, probably one of the reasons why he gets so much attention from academics. I particularly love it when he brings on people with different perspectives, like he does here, to weigh in.
In conclusion: SUBSCRIBE!
Very kind... and good advice!
Well said. Seconded!
@LuthAMF
Because the "apostates" actually look at history and what is written and don't tend to twist facts to support their agenda.
@LuthAMF
I mean, yeah, which is why apologists aren't great people to go to get accurate information regarding history and the like.
Someone like Paul, who isn't bound by a statement of faith (like Sean McDowell) or by theological motivation is a much better place to get unbiased information from.
@LuthAMF
Yes, exactly. You have 100% accurately gotten my position right and haven't straw manned me at ALL. Well done.
We all have biases and I personally find it hard for me to set mine aside. Really got to admire Dr. Allison for being able to look past his own. It’s an incredibly important and valuable trait.
Dale's rant in the beginning is beautiful.
christian youtubers and authors are entirely two faced, they are nice as pie when an atheist (or skeptic) is in the room, but left to themselves they really are the pitts. turek is typical, but mcdowell, however subtle he is, is just as bad. i wouldn't trusy them with measles.
Remembering my own experience leaving the Christian faith in Alabama, it comes as no surprise to see these people circling Dr. Alison like wolves and accusing him of not being a Christian.
There truly is no hate quite like Christian brotherly love.
if it was brotherly everything would be great X3 I know me and my sister (I know but my real older brother died at age 1 and the other came alone way to late) fought quite a bit but there was still love there and no hate
...you'd barely know it from this podcast (28:42)...but, no actually right now it is the skeptics who are after him with heir knives...Allison's latest work basically undoes Hume's proto-modernist denial of miracles ...based on consistent historical evidence ...
go back and listen very closely to the last part where he tries to inject it in...or watch Dale Allison's "is there Evidence of Miracles" from a week or two ago on "Unbelievable" podcast..
@AnarchoRepublican I expect skeptics to disagree with a believing Bible scholar. That's normal. It's apologists saying he isn't Christian that is gross. They're painting him as a wolf in sheep's clothing. A dog whistle like that is all many believers need to turn off their ears and ignore him for being a fake Christian
@@GoD1014 ...christians have creedal and doctrinally distinct associations...its the very essence of religion...
"brother" Dale Allison is unorthodox, perhaps even heretical...so yeah..but nothing personal...big deal...he knows full well what's he's doing...he enjoys it...
@@anarchorepublican5954 No true Xtian, indeed.
Listened to Dale Allison's The resurrection audiobook. He does an incredible job at eliminating personal bias and fairly evaluating every argument.
And yet he still believes that Jesus rose from the dead in some way or other!? Is that really an elimination of personal bias?
@@roqsteady5290 you should read it and hear how he does. He ends up not being able to defeat rainbow bodies. He believes in his personal experiences and measures the veracity of supernatural claims evenly. I can't speak for him though you should check out his book.
@@humpbackdelorean then, from a scientific viewpoint he has it all backwards. He is assuming what he needs to demonstrate. Rainbow bodies, the supernatural, personal experiences all require independent reliable, replicable observations to be taken seriously. Personal experiences don’t really count at all, as they are not independent. He seems like a nice guy though and in a better place than most apologists.
@@roqsteady5290 yes
@@roqsteady5290 He doesnt need to demonstrate to others to believe it for himself!
Reading Dr. Allison's book on the Resurrection right now, and damn, Paul, if this guy ain't the real deal. So stoked to see him on your channel, and a big huge thanks to Dr. Allison for elevating the discourse (as ShannonQ would say).
It was a great book. I am reading E. P. Sander’s Paul: The Apostle’s Life, Letters and Thought now and recommend it as well.
@@rthompsonmdog I've got EP Sanders book on Jesus also - I vaguely remember that he had this book on Paul, thank you for recommending it! I'll add it to my growing list.
McLatchie lecturing others on the methods of historians is top shelf shamelessness.
Especially since his degree is in biology.
@@michaelsommers2356 Didn't know that! I don't think people should use "Dr." when they're talking about something outside of their specialty.
The contrast between Dr. Allison and Frank Turek couldn’t be more stark.
God has Lydia McGrew's number on speed dial in case he is not sure whether someone is a Christian or not.
🤣
The way Jonathan McLatchie's accent moves from American to Irish to Scottish in the space of a single sentence never fails to amaze me...
Thank you for creating content that is actually “forwardable” to those who disagree.
"oh how I envy you, Dr Allison" 🤣 #metoo
Frank Turek would never strike me as someone who would dare to engage with a ‘legitimate’ Xian scholar.
This should prove illuminating.
I love Dale Allison ❤.
He’s intelligent, well considered, well read, intellectually honest, sincere and full of integrity.
What is not to like? I respect his options even though I don’t agree with him.
I always like to listen to him when I can because I always feel that I can always learn new things from him.
I wish him well.
Now that I am 10 years out of Christianity, it seems very strange that people should actually think that a resurrection of Jesus - of anybody - is plausible and warrants serious debate.
The idea that the contents of an ancient book could be compelling evidence for a supernatural event is just ridiculous. What does it matter what the book says? No possible contents of the book can be evidence that the book is true.
@@donnievance1942 that people today even have to consider whether stories about a resurrection could be true…
Jonathan mclachey saying that historians should start the practice of just outright accepting entire books as true instead of examining each individual claim made me howl with laughter. What a joke.
But he sounds so smart, and he offers what a large Christian audience wants to believe.
His debate with Matt Dillahunty was particularly hilarious. He basically rage quits when he is shown how fallacious his reasoning and how big his personal is.
I miss these type of videos you do. I am glad to see you are still doing them.
Still doing them. Still my favourite.
I really like Dale"s cartoon character representation. It really captures his inner sweet grandpa vibe.
A supernatural event IS outside of history. Really revealing how little they care about truth & honesty.
I loved Allison’s book. It’s one of the most enjoyable, captivating nonfiction books I’ve ever read. And I’m not even a Christian. Highly recommended!
9:20 Kudos to Dr. Allison. It's time apologists stop thinking they're historians. And since they won't stop thinking it they need to be called out on it at every appropriate occasion.
What we have here is a clear illustration of the difference between an historian and an apologist
Great conversation @Paulogia!! Thank you!
Thank you for this informative conversation, and the link to the course! I am intrigued 🤔
Excellent, excellent conversation.
Memories are notoriously unreliable, especially when they are mixed with strong emotions, that is the basis for nostalgia. We enhance "good memories" with additional invented good qualities and likewise with "bad memories" we elaborate on them, making them more scary. And every time we access a memory, it actually gets "rewritten" with new or missing parts. So to assume that the memories of Jesus are unbiased and 100% in alignment with actually happened is a strech.
sorry Oscar...but I heard Ronald Reagan speak over 30 years ago...I still remember all his jokes...unenhanced...
@@anarchorepublican5954 if you recall them verbatim, congrats on your rare ability. My guess, though, is that if you do not have a 'photographic' memory, you have refreshed those memories per the prior comment. Either way does not necessarily hold validity in the memory, only of the memory
Got to love apologists who don't know what Supernatural means! It literally means not a natural event. If it's not natural, we can't know if it was real or a claim as we can currently only prove natural things. Now, I believe there is nothing supernatural as I don't believe in resurrection, ghosts, angels, or any other kind of supernatural things. The cognitive dissonance among apologists is wildly insulting.
The best evidence against the resurrection is that it is physically impossible, something people 2,000 years ago did not know, but we all do, though the insistently-deluded don't want reality to apply to their guy.
Yeah there are several reasons for an empty tomb. The most probable could be that someone took the body out of there.
@@jana731 That and there's not even sufficient reason to think there actually _was_ a tomb at _all,_ given 'lost in a mass grave' is by my understanding a more historically accurate assumption.
@@Cellidor What do think of the objections to the mass grave hypothesis? Personally, I think it's the most likely.
@@2PRO_4U_2NO You'd have to mention particular ones, I don't know off-hand what objections folks have had. I'd have to imagine though that many objections could be met with 'Even if you propose X, is it more likely than the historical truth being 'What happened was the same thing that'd happened many times to other preachers at that time'?'
Thank you for all your research and hard work...
Pushing 50 years old here and I still find it so baffling that so many people give so much relevance to Middle Eastern mythology, especially the brands that are so obviously fradulent.
I guess that's what happens when you dumb down the populace and then force religion on them. It's quite amazing yet very revealing of human nature...in the face of fear (in this case, death) people will believe anything, and especially so if you teach them to believe in those things when they are children.
yep
The real key is to keep it up until no living person can recall what actually went down when it started. Then it somehow becomes MORE credible!
Brilliant discussion. I just ordered Dale's book last week and look forward to reading it. Thank you Paul.
Excited to watch.
This is a fabulous vid/esode. Thanks for publishing it.
Just ordered the book.
This guy seems to be one of the most objective and honest scholars who is still a believer.
He has earned my respect.
We love honesty. Good on you sir
Alas, I wish I could afford his course! Always overjoyed to see your videos with Dr Dale :-)
What an awesome video! Tyvm much for this one.❤❤
You are so welcome!
Every time I look at the URL, "DaleJesusQuest" makes me imagine some kind of bible themed adventure game for the nes. My brain is weird.
Can you help me? I need two fish. Try asking people in the crowd.
Like those bootleg blue cartridges for the Bible Adventure games.
I agree, and unfortunately I was a huge fan of Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers as a kid. I can't say the name without that damn theme song playing in my head. 😅
Dale's Jesus Quest sounds like the crossover between Bible Adventure and C'nD that I never knew I didn't want.
*Check Inventory*
1 loaf
1 fish
1 pair sandals.
Thanks Paul. This is a really good one.
My speaker skipped missed first fraction of a second and I heard Frank say "Erection of Jesus." Spit take with coffee is not fun!
I’m pretty sure @DrDaleAllison is the most reasonable Christian I’ve ever heard. As a non-believer, I find his approach refreshing after too many lectures from such dogmatic literalists as Frank Turek and WLC. And unlike those guys’ obviously flawed arguments, Dr. Allison’s work seems worth a second glance.
Dale Allison is such an amazing scholar, thanks for having him on
Paul has been very generous with Dale's hair 🤫
I myself would appreciate creative license if I were a caricature.
Comment for the UA-cam algorithm god 🙏 because that thing actually exists
You can’t prove a theological conclusion historically, because it exists as an assertion only 😮😮😮
Dr. Allison was my professor and it was great to have him.
Have you ever come across a more thoughtful and honest person than Dale? Never!
Another great video. Dale Alison is awesome.
I loved the Allison Course. It is less a discussion of the historical facts about Jesus, and more a review of Protestant scholars' theories about gospel interpretation. It was all new content to me. Very enlightening.
The simple fact that a Christian is rebuking what a fellow Christian is saying shows how fundamentally wrong the theology of claiming to be the one true religion really is
Excellent guest!
i know nothing about the bible really, or bible history, i've always been atheist and i always thought snakes and apples sounded like myth, so pardon my confusion but surely if i'm in court and i say i was in the bank vault and i witnessed a shooting, it means i was in the bank vault and i saw someone shoot someone else, which to me translates to, i was in the tomb when jesus was apparently dead but he stood up and asked for a coffee, i was there and witnessed the ACT of resurrecting.
"eyewitness to the resurrection" doesn't mean i thought i saw someone alive some time after they were supposed to be dead, it means i was in the tomb with a dead jesus when jesus stood up.
there are no "eyewitnesses to the resurrection" - otherwise you're eyewitness to thinking you saw someone previously dead who appears to have come back to life.
dead people don't come back to life period. That is biology and medical science. Zero exceptions.
This is why eyewitness testimony is actually not considered strong evidence in court trials. It is evidence but it is often unreliable.
Thanks for the video :)
Gotta appreciate honest people you don't have to agree on anything but dishonesty and ignorance just divides people. Thank you Mr. Allison!
Great discussion. I learned some new things.
Amazing insights!
Dr Allison is perhaps my favourite guest Paul has ever had on. The divide he places between what he claims is historically reliable and his beliefs is refreshing. Both athiests and theists often overstate historical claims, and it is great to see Dr Allison's integrity. I also find it very interesting to see a theist's perspective on the Christian apologists that Paul commonly responds to.
Great video!
I enjoy learning about the complex relationship that religion, science and skepticism have gone through the centuries, because of the weight society has given to established traditions we have all but forgotten the curiosity and development that religious thinking underwent over time. Thanks for the episode Paul
...for an balanced historical understanding of Science and Faith, might I suggest "Logos and Literacy", by prof. Jordan Peterson
Damn Paul you are crushing it with these guests.
This was very intellectual. I’m gonna need to listen to this again.
Thank you Dale Allison
If frank turek were honest, he would write his books in alternating caps and non caps letters.
If he were honest, he wouldn't write his books.
I dont have enough faith to believe in turek's books, now hear me how i use faith to believe in something i cant use evidence for.
Ok but I can imagine a hovind book written like that
Never heard of Dr. Allison until this video, but it's nice to find a believer who is honest about what they can and can't prove about Christianity from the standpoint of historical inquiry. I will definitely be checking into more of his work and comparing it to the work of skeptics and apologists alike.
I like it. I’m still baffled though, that grown ups believe ,and will defend, someone rising from the dead and other miracles.
Its funny how quickly they will turn someone from hero to pariah.. sometimes even having people going back and forth depending on the sentences of them they are reading. So many apologists care absolutely nothing for expertise or facts or honesty in favor of cherry picking their own conclusions as good and pointing to everything else as bad/wrong.
Here we have one of the top scholars in the field, someone they crow about when his words support their claims, right up until he contradicts their conclusion on one thing, then "he's not a real Christian". The whiplash is astounding.
They do the same thing with science too, they cite it whenever they find some sentence that fits then go full science denial and conspiracy in the next breath.
Fascinating. Thank you
Keep up the Good work. Your a prophetic person, not after Profit, based on Hear-sayism. Your channel is doing a Service to those whom would listen.
I think I see why various apologists are claiming Dr Dale isn't actually christian (even though he is)
Several of those apologists are known for their "this book (often one specific version of the book) is 100% the literal word of god anyone who disagrees is (insert insults here)" attitude. So a believer who actually acknowledges historical nuance and that the book isn't 100% covering everything 100% as written would absolutely make some of 'em mad. XD
There is no evidence for a resurrection.
Dale is a true gem. It's truly pathetic the way he's being attacked and the true weakness it shows in their position. Any amount of critical thinking is seen as a true threat, no matter the source.
I appreciate Dr. Allison pointing out the link between the Reformation and the rise of modern skepticism!
Right?!? Excellent observation
@@Paulogia I have a book by a Roman Catholic publisher “ Saints Who Raised the Dead: true stories of 400 resurrection, miracles“ these stories have a lot better evidence than Jesus! Why don’t Protestants become Roman Catholics been reading too much David Hume???
@@tgrogan6049 A little skepticism does the brain good!
I would love to have Dale on again! As a Mennonite turned skeptic myself, I'd love to hear if Dale knows anything about that particular sect, as well.
Yes! More colabs with this amazing man!
Perhaps the Christian I respect most.
0:00 The music from Hybrid Librarian!
Takes me back...
0:54 1:37 2:33 6:47 7:34.. 8:58
This class sounds like a fun activity to do during spring break (yes, I really am that boring).
Dale is my favourite person to still be a chistian, maybe 2nd fav, my granny is pretty poggers too, but i am amazed on how reasanable this dude is, i wish i could understand whta makes him a chistian still that would really help me expand my understading of humans.
He’s had experiences that he feels are best explained with a god. He agrees that this is no reason for anyone other than he to be a believer.
@@Paulogia thanks i wodner if ur next thought was also "why the cristian god tho? Why not a generic unknow entity?"
@@Paulogia I am very respectful towards personal experiences (although I hold an almost impoverished notion of what 'privileged access' affords).
People have been arguing these problems going back to the first century...yes the 1st century. All those bishops and thinkers who were within a hundred years of the crucifixtion didn't have any more evidence then we do now, there just isn't enough information. Everything we know comes from stories passed down from one person to the next and we have no idea if the original story came from eye witnesses or not...what else is there to say?
Yes, well that and there's no way to falsify or confirm any supernatural claims. Along with the fact that everything explanation for every phenomenon has always been a natural cause.
I'm interested in the many forms of unorthodox Christianity. I look forward to reading Dr. Allison's works.
Paul, the introduction to this video had me dying 😂😂
16:35 for all three of them…
I’ve yet to find a Christian apologist that I would either like to look like or for my significant other to look like.
For me a person that came from a ghost, broke natural laws and is still alive after 2,000 years is ridiculous and on this we have no evidence of this but claims. It make the belief even more ridiculous.
Frank does not want honest, he wants validation…. Or money or both
Yeah it's really sad
Dale Allison is too pure for this world. The absolute GOAT 🐐