The Real Reason Why Nintendo was TERRIFIED of Yuzu
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- Yuzu may be gone, but it will always live in our hearts. Even pirates tear up sometimes. But not you and me. We totally would've used Yuzu for homebrew stuff and proofs of concept.
In any case, I wanted to dive more in-depth onto Yuzu's tragic downfall. This clip might be a bit more educational than the others, but I hope you stick around through it. Love you all.
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Chapters:
00:00 Yuzu is NOT an EMULATOR!
00:25 Quick refresher on how Emulators Work
02:20 What made Yuzu Special
03:53 Why Nintendo was Terrified of Yuzu's Success
05:52 A few words about Suyu
06:20 Going off on a Rant
07:47 I want you to WATCH this Part - Наука та технологія
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Nintendo went after Yuzu because they knew it could be adapted to work with Switch 2 games, they say the Switch 2 is very similar to the Switch.
That's such a sick dev burn. "Dude, I've seen your commits. Junior level at best." 🤣
Devs have big egos. In case they see this video, I want them to become ultra-super-duper determined to prove me wrong, and make a worthy Yuzu successor out of it as a result. 😄
Modern Vintage Gamer has a video entitled, "Why was the Sony PlayStation 2 so hard to develop games for" - it's a really fascinating video that sort of inadvertantly explains why emulation for the PS2 is so demanding; a lot it has to do with synchronization & timing of all the various components -- getting everything to communicate at acceptable speeds is hard.
I LOVE MVG! He's really awesome.
Since we don't know the full story, and likely never will its all conjecture, but I believe Yuzu screwed the pooch in some way. While Nintendo has the power to crush anyone with a frivolous lawsuit, its doubtful they would. They have shown to attack like sharks when they are allowed to though.
Regardless, wear the tinfoil hat and yar be mateys, we sail the seas of morality. Dubious it may be.
You wouldn't download a car, would you? 😄
Legal Disclaimer: All answers other than "No" might lead to a frivolous lawsuit from Nintendo.
@@VladNerd 😄 Of course not, only a n'th dimensional monster could ever do such a thing.
It's not just that Yuzu were accepting money, they were sending out patches for a game that hadn't come out yet to paying customers only, meaning they were directly profiting from customers that had to get the game illegally. Nintendo saw this as a golden opportunity to signal "all emulation is illegal" and capitalized.
Ugh, that sounds really bad tbh. Darn shame.
I think piracy is a way for people to acess some cultural goods even if they dont have the money. I dnt think that people who pirate games would have bought it otherwise
Great, eye-opening video! Thank you very much 😊
Very interesting and informative (and very well put). Thank you❤
Thanks man. I woke up to this comment, and if genuinely made me smile irl. ❤️
Yuzu only recently was ported to phones, because Skyline devs were scared. I don't know if Yuzu even had ARM build for computers.
They failed in many ways, mainly being paid early access and having patches/roms of new Zelda.
Sudachi looks more promising.
kinda would've made sense for nintendo if switch hardware wasn't, as you said, FRICKIN ANCIENT and the way they try to earn money wasn't straight up wrong
You said "former Developer", as a current Developer (mostly front-end web agency work) I'm curious why former?
I just lost passion for it. Started with frontend too way back in 2014, when IE7 & 8 support was still a thing, CSS3 was just coming out, and the fanciest thing for devs was jQuery. 😄
At one point, I just realized that it wasn't what I liked to do anymore. :)
I'm buying a fpga. Has to be done.
I was wondering the other day if they could just make their own official type of yuzu and let us buy it. Not all but some people who only emulate wouldn't have an issue paying Nintendo to play on the pc/phone. I never play my actual switch cause my pc run it better.
I too loved yuzu. But I wondered why switch emulation was so much better than the others and you explained it perfectly. Thank you
What about other switch emulators like ryujinx?
Zero useability on the Frontend Side.
Yuzu can be back after the Switch is out of the market, that simple, they asked for a spank in their assess.
How is ryujinx different? Are they actually emulating or are they translating?
I'd like to know this as well
Basically it's like this:
- If the host hardware (hardware that you're emulating on, like a laptop) emulates a console of a different architecture, then emulating set thing will have some performance cost. (Ex, windows laptop --> Switch [x86 --> arm]). Most PCs are super powerful though, so that extra performance will mitigate this and you might still get good emulation.
- If the host hardware has the same architecture to the console you're intending to emulate (phone --> Switch, aka Arm --> Arm, then the "emulator" just acts as a translation layer, because it'd just facilitate communication between the two sides, without doing other, more complicated stuff.
Ryujinx would work on the same architecture (arm --> arm) if an Android version of it is ever built, while the Windows version emulates across architectures (x86 --> arm). I hope I explained it better for you guys. :)
@@VladNerd Much obliged good sir.
@@VladNerd Ahhh ok, I understand. I asked because I did hear that the yuzu emulator built up from the codings of Ryujinx emulator. Thank you very much for the explaination! You have made a very good video!
So I could run ps3 on a pimped out old MacBook with the Ppc chip?
Man if those are junior level commits I'm really having nothing but doubts on my own skill level. I don't understand any of that emulation code! I think this is why I switched to web, it's where most failed developers go. :D
I was referring to Suyu, not Yuzu (Suyu is a fork of the now shut down Yuzu). Let's just say that I saw a lot of ReadMe updates. 😄
Tickle tickle
you sti can use yuzu without issues.
I bought a Shield Tablet when it was first released. My lord it was a horrible little tablet that ran so poorly that I skipped the Switch given it was based on the Tegra X1 SOC. Yuzu was ALWAYS running a risk of being sued into oblivion by offering an app that could compete with a going concern like Nintendo and the Switch. Pure insanity that they brought on themselves. I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for tbh. Just my opinion lad. Thanks for making my Sunday just a little bit better with surprise content. My basement flooded on Thursday so I'm back to bailing but yours was a much needed break from the horror of wet crap littering my basement.
They really lived dangerously with trying to build an emulator for a handheld STILL in its active lifecycle, and one by Nintendo no less. 😄
I'm really sorry to hear about the basement man. Stuff like this is horrible. Lost my entire collection of "Mickey Mouse" comics that were released in post-communist Romania between 1993-2001 this way. Kept them prestine, but oh well. Made efforts to digitize the collection many years later after that, so at least there's that.
If I could, I'd be there with some beer, a mop and a bucket to help out. I hope this didn't completely mess up your Sunday. :(
@@VladNerd All Good Man. All good.
Nothing wrong with piracy in my opinion, they should increase production of physical discs and stuff and then we would not have to do it.
I am not much into switch and was really not aware of the difference with... Call it... Traditiinal emulation. Thanks! And please (as this in time happens, sometimes...) please please and again please do NOTHING to perfect your accent... Aside from being really nice to hear, makes understanding you waaaaay easier for a non native anglish speaking person
I couldn't change it even if I wanted to. 😄
Thanks though!
@@VladNerd good... That is good!
Uh Yuzu ran on Windows too.....
Yeah, but Windows machines have way more raw horsepower headroom, hence why Windows Yuzu could still maintain a good level of emulation, even across architectures. :)
Emulate games win the console shop and services stop. But Switch was still active and people downloading the games during release day in other sites. Playing games with active consoles isnot emulating it is piracy!!!
Look at 3ds, ds and etc. Nintendo doesn't care about emulating that. But yuzu makesprofit out of stealing Nintendo IP and games which is on the market today. As collateral rip citra.
No one stop you from emulating, as long as you make you're own software and legal keys to run it. Yuzu is illegal. Spreading pirated sourcecode.
I respectfully disagree. Emulators allow you to run the software that you own purchased copies of (this has been deemed legal in court multiple times and is one of the reasons that emulators were allowed to thrive in the first place).
Same as Yuzu. The entire source code was open source and *not* stolen. The problem wasn't even that you had to extract your own Switch keys, or even the fact that people exploited this to pirate games (which happens with all emulators, tbh).
The big gotcha was that they tried to monetize this through their Patreon, which gave Nintendo an opening to go after them.
In development or not, emulation is and always will be legal, that's why the contributors don't hide under shady anonymous identities like the old cracking groups used to do back in the day. :)
In any case, I appreciate your point of view and thanks for expressing it.
@@VladNerd , I disagree respectfully, The main reason why people uses emulator is to pirate. You know why yuzu got taken down? Cause they earn profits in patreon by stealing Nintendo property!
And how the stealing happen? Yuzu and in their server, TOTK has been already pirated many times even before the official release. That's the real reason why Yuzu is taken down. Nintendo sues anyone because emulation is illegal, they sued because they practices illegal distributions and they gain profit. sadly citra became a collateral damage.