You did better than I. I saw a mask and I immediately gave up on hope of hearing anything worth my time. I'm sure Ravi was a terrible person and the toxicity of his organisation's culture would be good to hear about to learn from their mistakes but let's get a guy or gal that shows credibility by not hiding their face from whatever imaginary scary things they're afraid of.
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I loved the man! What he spoke about God is true. What he did in his personal life is soooo unfortunate. God is his ultimate Judge. I will leave that in His merciful hands.
I likened him to the biblical David. He was human and flawed. Nothing he did takes away from the massive amount of good he did in spreading the truth God's word.
@@SandraLily2 Except for the detriment that these revelations have upon all that work, and the faith itself, and Christians, in the minds of all of those who stand most to benefit from that work and who are in most need of what it seemingly sought to accomplish. When non-believers see professors/defenders of the faith engage in sinful acts, out of character for even those moral principals that secularists and religious people alike agree, let alone _this_ kind of thing, it in their minds reflects on not only people of the faith, but the faith itself. It's a betrayal of trust, not to mention everything that it actually was.
Amen, I truely agree...God is the ultimate Judge...if fact we are not to judge, less we be judge ...I loved Ravi's messages and how he defended the gospel and faith ...I pray that he has asked God for forgiveness and is basking in heaven...I know God is just and forgiving...this world is full of Sin and temptation and Satan is at work... deceiving and robbing God's saints of their blessings and salvation...
NDAs are common. Across the spectrum. That’s why legal documents exist; it’s a consensual contract between people who agree upon non disclosure, regardless of the subject matter.
He had plenty of time to confess and repent when stuff like this happens it makes one wonder if they was ever a true believer or was they just in for recognition and money
The challenge now , while scrutinizing Ravi sins and correct the mistakes of the past, is how to keep the church intact and observe the faith. Don't throw anymore stones. Pray and leave justice to God
People need to be outraged at the fact that he wasn't exposed while alive. How foolish people are to be taken in by his degrees and charisma. He very subtlety mixed truth with lies. People take his charisma as truth and don't question him. There is so much that was wrong with this guy.
He was a hypocrite, a demon. A worst. And he didn't know God, or religion. He was false and his knowledge was false. It's funny, Muslims called him out years ago.
The positive now is we get to learn from his mistakes, so as not to repeat them. 1 out of 3 Canadian girls sexually abused before age 18...let that sink in
The pastor or any church leader needs a team of people he or she is accountable to, someone they're open with. A therapist who's unbiased, someone they can talk their deepest issues through with. This is why I left the church, denominational and non-denominational. It cannot handle pushback, and definitely not if you're a woman who challenges leadership.
This kid is what we on the street call a "Clout Chaser". Using the name of another more well-known person as a vehicle to draw attention to yourself, and get your own name out there. Pretty lame.
I believe he just wants to get the truth out there and support the victims! I thought he came off sincere! He talked about the culture of an honest workplace like DD (from the book he spoke about). The sins of Ravi are not just Ravi's but all that knew what was going on and stayed silent!
Update from Nathan Zacharias I can tell you that so far I have not seen any questionable/concerning photos in both of the phones I have searched. I also have not found any questionable/concerning correspondence or data. This includes the device they supposedly found the most information.
I see some here are saying it’s cowardly or inappropriate to “slander” Ravi? I would say just the contrary… Brave actually. It’s very hard to come to terms with someone, a corrupt member, on your side of the truth. Sincere Christians do not take pleasure in this but feel morally obligated and are speaking out to communicate their brokenness over it. We need to make sure that the other side, the world, knows that Ravi is an exception, not a rule, and that we do not condone it and are not trying to cover it up. That we hold each other accountable within our faith. Suggesting we should not be discussing it may be easy for you to say if the man who came as a safe man of God, attacked your daughter or wife in the most violating and intimate ways: Physically, and spiritually… I loved Ravi, his story, his books, his podcast… Over the years I listened and read thousands of hours of his words and work. I recommended him to countless saved and unsaved friends/strangers. I never held him over my studies of the Bible or of Christ, but he was up there as a rock and an example. There’s a difference between sounding a warning, encouraging others to use discernment, speaking of false prophets, and then senselessly slandering a man for your own amusement. I think folks are speaking out and up only with heavy hearts, grief, and empathy for the victims. My heart goes out to Ravi’s wife, and his lovely daughters, one of which ironically dedicated her life to witness personally to females of sex abuse and who lived willfully in sexual sin. We are doomed to repeat history if we don’t learn from it, and we can’t learn from it if we don’t talk about it.
That was beautifully written. I too was a great supporter of Ravi along with my sons. I vehemently denied that it was a possibility Ravi could have done any of this, it broke my heart. I am also a survivor of sexual abuse so this piled on the pain. Even so, I am appalled by the jackals coming out and rippling and tearing with maniacal delight at the carcass of RZIM. Have some compassion. We are wounded, we are hurting, but for heavens sake, let us talk about it and heal and not take revenge out on the poor family. Thank you for your tenderness Preston.
@@gailjones4165 Gail your words "I vehemently denied that it was a possibility Ravi could have done any of this," and you were right ... evidence is only good , if not fabricated to fit a certain narrative : go here to see what really happened defendingravi.wordpress.com/ and if you still consider him to be guilty then so be it .. i have nothing to say after that
when a person is alive and taken to court, we get to hear TWO sides of the story.. When Ravi died .. He was taken to trial By RZIM Board/Committee .. we only heard ONE side of the story...evidence is only good , if not fabricated to fit a certain narrative : go here to see what really happened defendingravi.wordpress.com/ and if you still consider him to be guilty then so be it .. I have nothing to say after that...But how would you like to be Ravi's Family member and want Ravi's personal phones back to see for your self , now espeacially that the investigation is over ,, and RZIM is still not handing the primary evidence back ...they have no more use for it .so why not hand it back.. Now why would they handit back if there is next to no evidence in there.. but all else aside Preston, I see that youer a person of balance , all I ask is for you to go to this site which has been authored by Nathan Zecharias , Ravis son to give us THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY : go here to see what really happened defendingravi.wordpress.com/
@@LensFromNorthEast5338So, masks did/do nothing for Covid and everyone knew that, Fauci said it himself. That was the most truthful thing Fauci said about Covid.
When you get to tell your story but alleged victim can't because you got them to sign an NDA...believe everything the people on side of the victims say and run from the accused.
I think this teaches people not to look up to anyone, nor place anyone on a pedestal. It hurt me personally to hear it too BUT it also taught me none can portray Jesus other than JESUS himself. Look to Jesus and none else. God bless.
Unbelievable that this "apologist" relies on Duncan Donuts CEO Book instead of the bible. Jesus himself taught the disciple is a must within a church. As an apologist, he should know that Jesus taught to take the log out of your eye before trying to take a speck out of another eye. Don't be an apologist to unbelievers if you don't have the courage to speak out against wrongdoings in a church or para-church like RZIM.
It is ironic that a whole band of apologists ignored the evidence and failed to do their research. But I'm glad that the truth is out for the victims and they are finally being heard
HOW do you sexually abuse a GROWN WOMAN ! Child, yes, toddler, yes... but GROWN PROFESSIONAL WOMEN who are by Law bound by ethics and are now guilty of COUNTER TRANSFERENCE. The second something inappropriate happens ont he table, the session is IMMEDIATLY TERMINATED ! How does it get as far as they claim it to have got? because these women are PARTICIPANTS .. if the alleged sexual EXCHANGES HAPPENED
You must not worship the preacher but we leaders and members of the body of Christ must be stellar through the life of Christ in us by yielding to the Holy Spirit working in us. Christ has set us free from sin, not to sin.
The problem w/making sweeping comments like yours, is that others just as willfully ignorant as you, will fall for that crap you seem to have been indoctrinated into. Sad for you. Jesus is everyone’s Only Hope. Ask Him to save you from yourself. No One else is going to.
I have realized long ago not to follow a Preacher or pastor or ministry, follow Jesus and his teachings with the guide of the holy spirit. To be honest I love Ravis Sermons and Apologetics. We are all sinners and fall short to the glory of God.
This interview is perfect only “unmasked” this! It’s so bizarre that they are talking with masks on!!! Is this just confirming to the rule. They are far apart and unmasking both of them would have been perfect interview!
Part 2: When Ravi learned his cancer had metastasized he said he was ready to meet the Lord. He had no regrets, he said, except that he would have to leave us behind. He had no fear of dying, of meeting the Lord. His conversations at the end when he was seeing things we couldn’t and talking to people we couldn’t see were not filled with angst or fear or guilt. He was talking about strategy for sharing the Gospel with his unseen visitors. So much for Randy Alcorn and John MacArthur. He never uttered another woman’s name, even in his sleep. His first thoughts every morning were of the Lord, his first words, “Thank you, Lord.” His Bible is marked up and underlined, notes in the margins, interacting with what is written and applying it to himself. I found written in his Bible the following. It has no date. It has no author. But Ravi obviously resonated with it. Lord, I renounce my desire for human praise, For the approval of my peers, The need for public appreciation; I deliberately put them aside today, Content to hear you whisper, “Well done, my faithful servant.” Amen. More than any other poem I ever heard him quote was this one by Amy Carmichael, Make Me Thy Fuel, Flame of God: From prayer that asks that I may be Sheltered from winds that beat on Thee, From fearing when I should aspire, From faltering when I should climb higher, From silken self, O Captain, Free Thy soldier who would follow Thee. From subtle love of softening things, From easy choices, weakenings, (Not this are spirits fortified, Not this way went the Crucified,) From all that dims Thy Calvary, O Lamb of God, deliver me. Give me the Love that leads the way, The faith that nothing can dismay, The hope no disappointments tire, The passion that will burn like fire, Let me not sink to be a clod: Make me Thy fuel, Flame of God. He was not perfect. He was a man. As his wife of 43 years, I know this more than anyone else. But his failures were not in this area. He was spectacularly self-disciplined in his conduct, especially where it would reflect poorly on the Lord. He denied himself every single day in order to fulfill his calling and be pleasing to the Lord. He trusted me implicitly and I, him. He loved me completely, even the aspects of my personality that he found frustrating. He was fully committed first to his God, then to me and to his children, and finally to those who looked to him as an example. Such a man could not be guilty of what is being alleged and there is no evidence at all to support those allegations, not in his personal effects, his financial records, his correspondence, his actions observed by all who knew him over 74 yrs. Even the so-called evidence in his emails is phrases, words taken out of context and never confirmed with those who knew him, who could give some context. Anyone of any celebrity status who gives his email to any who ask because he didn’t want to offend them by refusing, always cautioning them to “be careful what they did with it,” receives hundreds of pictures and selfies from fans & admirers, often inappropriate ones. That is pandemic in our society today. And everything you receive on your phone or computer is there for eternity, as we are constantly warned, and can always be “forensically retrieved.” So there are pictures. The investigator never told us their origin, whether he researched them or they were sent to him. Is he responsible for what is sent to him? If he is, then so is everyone else. There is absolutely no way that Ravi is guilty as charged, convicted, canceled and executed, some even going so far as to claim that he never knew the Lord. I knew him, inside and out. I trust him & believe in him no less than I did on May 18th last year when he called me to him and kissed me as long as he had the strength, his last physical act in his life. It is not because I am in denial. It is because I knew him and because there is absolutely no evidence to support anything contrary. I have written this because I feel it is important that you, his family, know what I know, know what I have found and not found, so that you may have confidence to continue to love and respect the man you knew, and that you may know that he was the man you knew. With much love, and confidence in Ravi and in the God he knew and loved and served, Margie
Yeah but it's their own ministry that did the investigation. RZIM hired independent investigators to look into the accusations. I think the messages ,texts and emails to other women and naked pics of women found on his phone speak volumes.
@@LM-hb6yn Thanks for responding. She is totally correct to blow the whistle on predator Ravi. He totally betrayed the trust of many. But she also betrayed the trust of her husband. For her remaining days she should be getting the therapy she needs to cope with abuse she suffered. And also advice young women to avoid the mistakes she made.... sending nude photos to a man not her husband etc. Pointing the finger at someone else and trying to sue is not what she should be doing, but dealing with her side of the issue before God and soul searching. If you think the best thing for her to do right now is not to seek forgiveness. and get treatments etc, and instead sue for millions... then that's up to you.
Ask yourself...where have you seen this movie before ? Where have accusers suddenly come out of the woodwork where they kept silent for sometimes twenty years after the allegations ? How come Ravi's accusers didn't say anything when the Me Too movement was loosening all manner of female tongues? Remember the appointment of Supreme Court Justice Thomas ? ...remember the appointment of Supreme Court Justice Kavanagh ? Well , they aren't even Christians and look what happened to them . The number one way that satan tries to bring down the contenders for the gospel of Jesus Christ is through sexual allegations , the second is through money, and the third is through their health . And we know from reading the Bible that he prefers to destroy his victims and watch them and their family and friends suffer...for maximum damage and humiliation. Is this not the story of Job ? So how come he never was able to destroy Ravi while he was alive ? What's the next best thing? Destroy his reputation when he can't defend himself...and destroy the work of God accomplished through Ravi's service. This is my conclusion on the matter having read the Bible which exposes the devil's schemes.
@@markanthony3275 There are many reasons women can be silent in cases like this, and if you can't think of any other reason than they are all being deceptive and lying then that says a lot about you. (i am not saying that every single one of them is necessarily all 100% truthful either) For me, what I think turned this case around is when those close to Ravi (his daughter, President of RZIM) looked at stuff like his phones, pictures, messages, emails etc. and realised what was going on. Don't forget that all these guys (Ravi's daughter, all the senior staff at RZIM) fought for his innocence. By acknowledging his guilt they are killing the goose that laid the golden egg. What I mean by that is...... if Ravi is guilty they all lose their ministry and their jobs. If they can prove he is innocent, they could continue his ministry and continue to receive the funding that Ravi attracted. So, they would not have given up without a fight. Actually Ravi's daughter and wife could be considered absolutely despicable people... if they actually believe in his innocence but instead of fighting for his reputation have fully accepted the allegations. They are not disgusting people. She has the integrity to admit that her dad did wrong. I guess there are one or two guys on the internet who could have absolved Ravi and proved his innocence??? Shame that you guys did not get the task of proving his innocence. You'll seem to be coming up with strong "evidence" that he did not do it, and it's a shame that nobody is listening. Right?
Seriously? For such a vital and important subject as the scandal at RZIM ministries, you had to do the interview wearing masks? I just can believe a producer agreed to this. The sound quality is muffled and I can't even understand half of what you are saying with out turning the speaker all the way up. This is absolutely absurd.
Why the heck am I gonna watch a video where two people are talking with masks on? That's right I'm not. Not worth my time seeing these two worried about getting each other sick with the flu. SMH 🤦♂️
The problem is ..sexual sins.. can't be excused.. but look at David he paid dearly. There are many good things about Ravi.. we can't erase him. This is important to remember..the fallible , finite state of humanity..and even Christians fail horrendously. EVERYONE OF US.
He WAS a good man with an addiction. A sin in his life. Take the good and TRUTHFUL words he spoke and forgive him for his sinful actions. And pray he made things right with God
Saw the masks, LAUGHED🤣 & hit the mute to read comments. The Nazi style propaganda is so over the top. Never fell for any of the Globalist Cabal bs they’ve pushed for well over a year. Sad countless Millions have. High price will be paid. Very high. :/
There are some things in life that only God can solve. And this is one of them. irrespective of what was said, a man is innocent until proven guilty. I know and can state emphatically that my life has been positively and spiritually touched, challenged and transformed by Ravi's teaching of the Gospel. I have learned how to be humbly and treat people with respect especially when they disagree with you. I watch him keenly in those question and answer sessions and knew he was been led by God. What is before us today I cannot handle I have to let God pan it out the way only He can. RIP Ravi. and may God strengthen his Margie and the rest of the Family. Walk good Man Of God.
Man you are very deluded ,if this religion was true abuse of children,babies, women..wouldn t be this rife ,what you call spirit isn t doing it for your leaders and the rest ,it s a man made book
Ravi Zacharias is most likely innocent, he never got a chance to defend himself. His wife Margie found absolutely nothing in question after 54 years of marriage. Including no pictures, this investigation was tainted to take a man down.
Do you really have to wear a mask during this interview?? 😖😖 Ps. After going through some of the comments, I am relieved to see how many people realize how ignorant it is to be wearing those muzzles.
RZIM should fold shop, dissolve your organization, return all the money, compensate all the victims, pay for counselling for victims, and remove all his books from printing. Everyone is “sad” about what Ravi did, where is the cry for justice for these abused women? They couldve been your sister, daughter, or mother...
why should any of these things be done when Ravi stands completely Innocent,, the real winner here is Satan, cause the millions who have stopped listening to what this great teacher had to offer, and millions in future will consider Ravi cancelled.... . evidence is only good , if not fabricated to fit a certain narrative : go here to see what really happened defendingravi.wordpress.com/
@@wlonsdale1 exactly and especially when Ravi is Innocent .... evidence is only good , if not fabricated to fit a certain narrative : go here to see what really happened defendingravi.wordpress.com/
Agree 10000% ... If he was so convicted he should have brought this on earlier, question is why didnt he... the answer is How could he? when the guy to be shot was innocent....so wait till he dies and then carry your evil schemes...go here for the truth . evidence is only good , if not fabricated to fit a certain narrative : go here to see what really happened defendingravi.wordpress.com/
@@winterlou9084 agree...why only when he passed away...i doubt this as true..but we just pray let God reveal d truth and keep Ravi's family and ministry at peace and keep touching people's heart for Christ..let b d Christ b glorified not man.
I started watching it but due to the muffled audio caused by them wearing masks, I stopped. If they were so worried about germs, they should have sat farther apart.
Just more of their Cabal propaganda bs. I didn’t listen either. They’re talking about Ravi’s deception, when they’re deceiving ppl too. Just in a different way. Satan’s having a field day before the Wrath.
I’m sorry, I completely agree that these victims needs a voice and it’s a good thing that the truth about Ravi is coming out. But where is he getting that stats he quotes at the end? Where is he getting that 1/3 girls are sexually abused in Canada before age 18? And where is he getting the number that it’s the same within the church as it is outside the church. Does anyone know where he is getting this from? I’ve seen these stats come from extremely unrealiable sources and also misquoted all the time as well. If he’s misrepresenting, this is a problem. He’s reflecting RZIM culture that he is so quick to denounce if that’s the case.
Amen. This mask nonsense is getting really REALLY OLD! Sit a little further apart during the interview and take off those stupid, pretty much worthless masks!!!
Did not like Ravi's work, but to see the people in the company being shocked when I knew things were amiss from the lawyer who was putting out clear evidence is pretty pathetic. I wasn't going on hearsay, the evidence was from court documents.
Why only after his death people speak out about this when the man is not able to defend himself!? I dont believe in all these nonsense! Why wait after he died?!
What a lot of tripe. I am 5:11 into this video and I am still seeing nothing other than virtue signalling. I am waiting to hear examples of the toxic culture at RZIM. Thank God I now know how wonderful "Dunkin doughnut"is and I am especially pleased to hear that Danie Gilman is an advocate for abused women. There are serious people who do not believe that you can bring the Gospel as effective as Ravi did while living in active sin and our faith is shaken. We are desperately looking for answers that makes sense. These kinds of videos are not helping anybody. It is ironically Ravi's Gospel that will get you into heaven and not your own virtue signalling.
@@WETBACK4TRUMP It was a contextual statement - I stand by the spirit of it and I think your nitpicking is unnecessary and makes me wonder about your motives. What you will need to do is to take one of Ravi's books and critique his depiction of the Gospel in one of those books and you will have made your point.
Do we know exactly what Ravi's gospel was? I remember his teaching mostly apologetics, philosophy, and logic. He defended the Christian faith and teachings of Jesus, but did he specifically teach the biblical, saving gospel of Jesus? I have not read his books, but I have heard him preach/teach. Maybe I missed it.
There's no one casting stones but when one claims they are Christ representative one should take heed and not abuse that position for you will be held accountable to a Holy God
I love Ravi and will not turn my back on him for being human. I pray for the woman and his family. Ravi led me so much further down the path towards the Lord I cannot forget that! He was human and spoke of the wretched human heart. I think I can trust he was speaking from experience. Again I do not forget the people who have been negatively affected but will also remember the positive
EXACTLY !!!!! .. but how can you come out when the man is alive when youer lying about the whole ravi scandal, cause ravi had nothing to hide....Read Ravi's Sons version of what happened and you will get some perspective on why this whole conspiracy was executed on Ravi .. go here ..defendingravi.wordpress.com/
They did! Dude was powerdul and so were his lawyers! His ministry covered it up becaus ethey had AlOT to lose. They got paid to work at the ministry. It would ruin their livelihoods. They did a vid on here apologizing to the public.
1 in 3 persons abused is way too high a number. Check DOJ or National police statistics, FBI, that sort of site for correct #'s. Abuse Advocacy is a very important thing, though.
Ravi's case show that apologetics, mixing of Scripture with science and philosophy to please men is not acceptable to God. More to practice the teachings of Jesus Christ rather than just preaching like a world scholar. Does any apologist defend based on scripture only and scripture alone?
evidence is only good , if not fabricated to fit a certain narrative : go here to see what really happened defendingravi.wordpress.com/ and if you still consider him to be guilty then so be it .. i have nothing to say after that
Another confusion, moving from preaching the gospel to advocating for victims of abuse. Was he with rzim because of Ravi or for the sake of the gospel of Jesus Christ?
What tells you he has stopped preaching the Gospel? A true believer will have compassion on the victims of an abuser. Yes, love is part of the Gospel. Actually it is essential.
Wow! Gilman is making a second career out of working for an abuser now. What qualifies him for this job? Just his experiences at RZIM? Talk about landing on one's feet after a crisis. Whew.
We don’t “know” know what happened. Accusations have surfaced and the accused is deceased. All we know is that a law firm was hired to investigate. Anything in the digital world can be manipulated; it’s a sad fact of the world we live in now. Not saying it didn’t happen, but we truly don’t know.
As of now, it's one sided since the man is deceased. I would call this whole thing a "unsolved" mystery because I don't think 100% he is guilty. I could be wrong though.
@@MultiBigAndy Absolutely ridiculous. This has been an issue with him for SEVERAL YEARS AND HE WAS CONFRONTED ON IT AND LIED. HE IS GUILTY. They have DIRECT EMAILS WHERE HE ADMITS TO IT. Do you honestly think all these women are lying, all these photos (over 2000 are fake).
His slow painful death is testimony that God is not asleep. When Ravi attempted to enter heaven he heard - “ l never knew you - get away from me you wicked people” : Matthew 7:21-23
We are TIRED to death hearing about him - no more. Please, let the dead be dead and we be prepared for the final judgement as Revelation 20: 15 says. Thank you.
I will not trust a guy who starts speaking about a person after his death, who sat sliently and conveniently benefitting from his name and work while he was alive. Sorry. Why none, not even one person, spoke and a year after his death, suddenly got "convictions". What? It sounds spurious. From what I heard and understood even the company that did the investigations are also in that "finding the dirt" league. Somehow I can't digest the timing. Even now I am praying for his wife and children. If Ravi did wrong he is accoutable to God. If you are lying about everything, then you are accoutable to God. For the rest of us, we have to live our life with fear and trembling.
Hunters drugged out sexcapades, all over his laptop from Hell. Also incriminating Big DaddiO & the Million$ made w/Xi’s $ex trade industry. Soooo much more covered up. We are truly in the End of End Days. And all those Evil doing minions of satan will get their ‘just desserts’ from their God they flipped the bird to for decades.
If he knew it was going on prior why not say anything then? Was he more worried about his job $$$ than exposing the abuse? Is he doing it now to make $$$ ? I sense a homosexual spirit on this guy
DONOT PUT A PASTOR ON A PEDESTAL FOR HE WILL FALL DONOT PUT YOUR TRUST IN MAN FLESH & BLOOD PUT YOUR TRUST & FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST.
Amen!
Great!
You're right!
Why are you shouting and swearing
AMEN!
And no need for any masks or government jabs w/Jesus!
Evildoers, all!
Five minutes of this masked nonsense and I'm done. Sorry.
Same.
Sick of the propaganda 🤮
so true.
You did better than I. I saw a mask and I immediately gave up on hope of hearing anything worth my time.
I'm sure Ravi was a terrible person and the toxicity of his organisation's culture would be good to hear about to learn from their mistakes but let's get a guy or gal that shows credibility by not hiding their face from whatever imaginary scary things they're afraid of.
Thank you!🙏. It’s obviously bullcrap!
Why not sit 7 or 8 feet apart without masks? Seems absurd to have masks on when you clearly don't need them.
optics,it’s all optics for those low life’s.
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I loved the man! What he spoke about God is true. What he did in his personal life is soooo unfortunate. God is his ultimate Judge. I will leave that in His merciful hands.
Paul says I bring my own body under subjection lest I preach to others and find myself a castaway
I likened him to the biblical David. He was human and flawed. Nothing he did takes away from the massive amount of good he did in spreading the truth God's word.
@@SandraLily2 Except for the detriment that these revelations have upon all that work, and the faith itself, and Christians, in the minds of all of those who stand most to benefit from that work and who are in most need of what it seemingly sought to accomplish. When non-believers see professors/defenders of the faith engage in sinful acts, out of character for even those moral principals that secularists and religious people alike agree, let alone _this_ kind of thing, it in their minds reflects on not only people of the faith, but the faith itself. It's a betrayal of trust, not to mention everything that it actually was.
Amen, I truely agree...God is the ultimate Judge...if fact we are not to judge, less we be judge ...I loved Ravi's messages and how he defended the gospel and faith ...I pray that he has asked God for forgiveness and is basking in heaven...I know God is just and forgiving...this world is full of Sin and temptation and Satan is at work... deceiving and robbing God's saints of their blessings and salvation...
@@SandraLily2but David publicly repented - have you read the book of Psalms?
Seriously, sit further apart and take off the masks.
sit closer and take the masks off.pure evil.jesus come please.
04/27/2021
Or maybe they could have put up a plastic shield, like at the stores?😥
Just what I was going to say. Take off the masks guys!
The fact that she was forced to sign a NDA Speaks VOLUMES!!
Forced?
NDAs are common. Across the spectrum. That’s why legal documents exist; it’s a consensual contract between people who agree upon non disclosure, regardless of the subject matter.
@@creativejob Coerced maybe? No more forced than pornography actors who agree to consensual activities.
Forced or coerced is unlikely whereas seduced is more probable - for a sum of money...
To me, when someone claims to have been abused, then demands five million dollars to be quiet and go away, something is very wrong there
Pity it was so hard to hear because of the masks. Was it really necessary to wear masks ?
Not sure what the law is there but here, where I am, you cannot meet indoors at all let alone outdoors without a mask
Really. The hype about masks is propaganda. Masks don't protect you. Period. So silly. Get rid of the masks.
Agree
@@samthemacman liar sinner u
No just foolishness!
I feel so very sorry for Ravi's wife and family.
They are the RZIM board of directors who sheltered and defended Ravi for decades, and ignored the allegations.
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@@margaretchellappah8323 huh
It must be Extremely difficult for them. May God lift and comfort them! 🙏
He is gone and they are left to deal with the fallout. Heartbreaking
MASKS???
Intentional manipulation or naivety???
My people perish from a lack of knowledge. Hosea 4:6
Intentional propaganda push. 🤮
Pure stupidity!
Do not stumble over a sister or brother lest it happens to you. It is only by the grace of God that we are what we are this day.
He had plenty of time to confess and repent when stuff like this happens it makes one wonder if they was ever a true believer or was they just in for recognition and money
Amen well said
The challenge now , while scrutinizing Ravi sins and correct the mistakes of the past, is how to keep the church intact and observe the faith. Don't throw anymore stones. Pray and leave justice to God
People need to be outraged at the fact that he wasn't exposed while alive. How foolish people are to be taken in by his degrees and charisma. He very subtlety mixed truth with lies. People take his charisma as truth and don't question him. There is so much that was wrong with this guy.
M
In other words, LOOK AWAY. Let's make it go away. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtains."
He was a hypocrite, a demon. A worst. And he didn't know God, or religion. He was false and his knowledge was false. It's funny, Muslims called him out years ago.
The positive now is we get to learn from his mistakes, so as not to repeat them. 1 out of 3 Canadian girls sexually abused before age 18...let that sink in
The pastor or any church leader needs a team of people he or she is accountable to, someone they're open with. A therapist who's unbiased, someone they can talk their deepest issues through with. This is why I left the church, denominational and non-denominational. It cannot handle pushback, and definitely not if you're a woman who challenges leadership.
I agree!!!
Did you mean left the church as in the faith or a local church?
This kid is what we on the street call a "Clout Chaser". Using the name of another more well-known person as a vehicle to draw attention to yourself, and get your own name out there. Pretty lame.
I believe he just wants to get the truth out there and support the victims! I thought he came off sincere! He talked about the culture of an honest workplace like DD (from the book he spoke about). The sins of Ravi are not just Ravi's but all that knew what was going on and stayed silent!
Pretty much sums it up, and he failed miserably.
How absolutely ridiculous to wear a mask whilst being interviewed. It has distorted the sound.
They were deceived by the globalist pandemic,oops, plandemic lies.
It's not your interview... So shut up
@@csurams84lol
@@csurams84it's still ridiculous.
Seriously.....
Update from Nathan Zacharias
I can tell you that so far I have not seen any questionable/concerning photos in both of the phones I have searched. I also have not found any questionable/concerning correspondence or data. This includes the device they supposedly found the most information.
I see some here are saying it’s cowardly or inappropriate to “slander” Ravi? I would say just the contrary… Brave actually. It’s very hard to come to terms with someone, a corrupt member, on your side of the truth. Sincere Christians do not take pleasure in this but feel morally obligated and are speaking out to communicate their brokenness over it. We need to make sure that the other side, the world, knows that Ravi is an exception, not a rule, and that we do not condone it and are not trying to cover it up. That we hold each other accountable within our faith. Suggesting we should not be discussing it may be easy for you to say if the man who came as a safe man of God, attacked your daughter or wife in the most violating and intimate ways: Physically, and spiritually… I loved Ravi, his story, his books, his podcast… Over the years I listened and read thousands of hours of his words and work. I recommended him to countless saved and unsaved friends/strangers. I never held him over my studies of the Bible or of Christ, but he was up there as a rock and an example. There’s a difference between sounding a warning, encouraging others to use discernment, speaking of false prophets, and then senselessly slandering a man for your own amusement. I think folks are speaking out and up only with heavy hearts, grief, and empathy for the victims. My heart goes out to Ravi’s wife, and his lovely daughters, one of which ironically dedicated her life to witness personally to females of sex abuse and who lived willfully in sexual sin. We are doomed to repeat history if we don’t learn from it, and we can’t learn from it if we don’t talk about it.
Well Said!!
@@vonzmommie08 Thank you, Joelle. Tragic all the way around though....
That was beautifully written. I too was a great supporter of Ravi along with my sons. I vehemently denied that it was a possibility Ravi could have done any of this, it broke my heart. I am also a survivor of sexual abuse so this piled on the pain. Even so, I am appalled by the jackals coming out and rippling and tearing with maniacal delight at the carcass of RZIM. Have some compassion. We are wounded, we are hurting, but for heavens sake, let us talk about it and heal and not take revenge out on the poor family. Thank you for your tenderness Preston.
@@gailjones4165 Gail your words "I vehemently denied that it was a possibility Ravi could have done any of this,"
and you were right ... evidence is only good , if not fabricated to fit a certain narrative : go here to see what really happened defendingravi.wordpress.com/ and if you still consider him to be guilty then so be it .. i have nothing to say after that
when a person is alive and taken to court, we get to hear TWO sides of the story.. When Ravi died .. He was taken to trial By RZIM Board/Committee .. we only heard ONE side of the story...evidence is only good , if not fabricated to fit a certain narrative : go here to see what really happened defendingravi.wordpress.com/ and if you still consider him to be guilty then so be it .. I have nothing to say after that...But how would you like to be Ravi's Family member and want Ravi's personal phones back to see for your self , now espeacially that the investigation is over ,, and RZIM is still not handing the primary evidence back ...they have no more use for it .so why not hand it back.. Now why would they handit back if there is next to no evidence in there.. but all else aside Preston, I see that youer a person of balance , all I ask is for you to go to this site which has been authored by Nathan Zecharias , Ravis son to give us THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY : go here to see what really happened defendingravi.wordpress.com/
Why is RZIM coming out now instead of when Ravi was alive
It’s named after him that should tell us enough.
@@justchilling704 not denying the allegations but just asking questions
They knew way before he passed.
Amen
Giving interviews with masks on. Pretty lame.
Covid 19 time
Well said. Anonymous allegations are not proof of anything.
@@LensFromNorthEast5338So, masks did/do nothing for Covid and everyone knew that, Fauci said it himself. That was the most truthful thing Fauci said about Covid.
When you get to tell your story but alleged victim can't because you got them to sign an NDA...believe everything the people on side of the victims say and run from the accused.
I’m so glad to know that God’s mercies endure forever.
God has already sorted it out with Ravi on the other side
They’re talking about it questioning people who are “at the helm” while they wear masks and do exactly what the folks “at the helm” tell them to do.
Lewis, Exactly
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Propaganda Machine in overdrive!😂
I think this teaches people not to look up to anyone, nor place anyone on a pedestal. It hurt me personally to hear it too BUT it also taught me none can portray Jesus other than JESUS himself. Look to Jesus and none else. God bless.
Everyone is fallen is in need of the a Savior. The root of the problem is not the abuse, it is sin. Adress sin with the truth of the Gospel.
Awesome.
Would you feel the same if your wife or daughter feel victim to this man ?
Unbelievable that this "apologist" relies on Duncan Donuts CEO Book instead of the bible. Jesus himself taught the disciple is a must within a church. As an apologist, he should know that Jesus taught to take the log out of your eye before trying to take a speck out of another eye. Don't be an apologist to unbelievers if you don't have the courage to speak out against wrongdoings in a church or para-church like RZIM.
He is giving an example of freedom to question. In some churches you are shut down if you try and challenge questionable behaviour.
Jesus uses people everywhere yo speak into our lives.
Please take off the mask!!!
It is to hard to understand what your saying!!!!!!
Ravi spoke a lot about "god" but not so much about Jesus Christ. This man being interviewed also said little to nothing about Jesus Christ. Sad!
This is another signs of the times that says brother against brother.
That’s an interesting observation. I hadn’t thought about that.
Jesus is irrelevant.
@@davidralphs4 Jesus Christ is The King, the Savior, the Creator, the God Man, the upholder of all things.
He spoke about Jesus constantly. Almost every speech I saw had Jesus in it and he wrote about 4 books about him.
It’s sad, you spoke out too late, a lot could have done to stop the abuse and hold the organisation to account. And Ravi to pay for it.
Will not waste time to watch a video where the lack of ability to think critically is so apparent in choosing to wear a mask for it
It is ironic that a whole band of apologists ignored the evidence and failed to do their research. But I'm glad that the truth is out for the victims and they are finally being heard
Romans 14:13
Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather determine this-not to put an obstacle or a stumbling block in a brother’s way.
Read it again. It is those outside the body of Christ we are told God will judge, whereas we are told to cast out the sinner from among us.
Of cause, one day God will judge us We don't have any authority to judge others. the bible said we All sinners.
@@Rose-dh3ec 1 Cor 5:9-13 says otherwise.
Also John 8:7, viz. “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Religion began when the first scoundrel meet the first fool.
HOW do you sexually abuse a GROWN WOMAN ! Child, yes, toddler, yes... but GROWN PROFESSIONAL WOMEN who are by Law bound by ethics and are now guilty of COUNTER TRANSFERENCE. The second something inappropriate happens ont he table, the session is IMMEDIATLY TERMINATED ! How does it get as far as they claim it to have got? because these women are PARTICIPANTS .. if the alleged sexual EXCHANGES HAPPENED
Maybe so, but a married teacher of the word behaving such way is a challenge to digest.
Of this is true or not. The problem with Christians is that they worship the preacher such as Ravi. He is sinner just like rest of us
You must not worship the preacher but we leaders and members of the body of Christ must be stellar through the life of Christ in us by yielding to the Holy Spirit working in us. Christ has set us free from sin, not to sin.
The problem w/making sweeping comments like yours, is that others just as willfully ignorant as you, will fall for that crap you seem to have been indoctrinated into.
Sad for you.
Jesus is everyone’s Only Hope. Ask Him to save you from yourself.
No One else is going to.
@@jackswager3067 Amen.
Very well put.
I have realized long ago not to follow a Preacher or pastor or ministry, follow Jesus and his teachings with the guide of the holy spirit. To be honest I love Ravis Sermons and Apologetics. We are all sinners and fall short to the glory of God.
I got very little from his sermons . He spoke as a pompous milley mouth of little substance.
I saw the masks and said to myself "take off the stupid mask". I'm out of here.
This interview is perfect only “unmasked” this! It’s so bizarre that they are talking with masks on!!! Is this just confirming to the rule. They are far apart and unmasking both of them would have been perfect interview!
ua-cam.com/video/lSFcyohJxwQ/v-deo.html
Couldn’t watch or listen b/c of that.
Propaganda 🤮
Part 2:
When Ravi learned his cancer had metastasized he said he was ready to meet the Lord. He had no regrets, he said, except that he would have to leave us behind. He had no fear of dying, of meeting the Lord. His conversations at the end when he was seeing things we couldn’t and talking to people we couldn’t see were not filled with angst or fear or guilt. He was talking about strategy for sharing the Gospel with his unseen visitors. So much for Randy Alcorn and John MacArthur.
He never uttered another woman’s name, even in his sleep. His first thoughts every morning were of the Lord, his first words, “Thank you, Lord.” His Bible is marked up and underlined, notes in the margins, interacting with what is written and applying it to himself. I found written in his Bible the following. It has no date. It has no author. But Ravi obviously resonated with it.
Lord, I renounce my desire for human praise,
For the approval of my peers,
The need for public appreciation;
I deliberately put them aside today,
Content to hear you whisper,
“Well done, my faithful servant.”
Amen.
More than any other poem I ever heard him quote was this one by Amy Carmichael, Make Me Thy Fuel, Flame of God:
From prayer that asks that I may be
Sheltered from winds that beat on Thee,
From fearing when I should aspire,
From faltering when I should climb higher,
From silken self, O Captain, Free
Thy soldier who would follow Thee.
From subtle love of softening things,
From easy choices, weakenings,
(Not this are spirits fortified,
Not this way went the Crucified,)
From all that dims Thy Calvary,
O Lamb of God, deliver me.
Give me the Love that leads the way,
The faith that nothing can dismay,
The hope no disappointments tire,
The passion that will burn like fire,
Let me not sink to be a clod:
Make me Thy fuel, Flame of God.
He was not perfect. He was a man. As his wife of 43 years, I know this more than anyone else. But his failures were not in this area. He was spectacularly self-disciplined in his conduct, especially where it would reflect poorly on the Lord. He denied himself every single day in order to fulfill his calling and be pleasing to the Lord. He trusted me implicitly and I, him. He loved me completely, even the aspects of my personality that he found frustrating. He was fully committed first to his God, then to me and to his children, and finally to those who looked to him as an example.
Such a man could not be guilty of what is being alleged and there is no evidence at all to support those allegations, not in his personal effects, his financial records, his correspondence, his actions observed by all who knew him over 74 yrs. Even the so-called evidence in his emails is phrases, words taken out of context and never confirmed with those who knew him, who could give some context. Anyone of any celebrity status who gives his email to any who ask because he didn’t want to offend them by refusing, always cautioning them to “be careful what they did with it,” receives hundreds of pictures and selfies from fans & admirers, often inappropriate ones. That is pandemic in our society today. And everything you receive on your phone or computer is there for eternity, as we are constantly warned, and can always be “forensically retrieved.” So there are pictures. The investigator never told us their origin, whether he researched them or they were sent to him. Is he responsible for what is sent to him? If he is, then so is everyone else.
There is absolutely no way that Ravi is guilty as charged, convicted, canceled and executed, some even going so far as to claim that he never knew the Lord. I knew him, inside and out. I trust him & believe in him no less than I did on May 18th last year when he called me to him and kissed me as long as he had the strength, his last physical act in his life. It is not because I am in denial. It is because I knew him and because there is absolutely no evidence to support anything contrary.
I have written this because I feel it is important that you, his family, know what I know, know what I have found and not found, so that you may have confidence to continue to love and respect the man you knew, and that you may know that he was the man you knew.
With much love, and confidence in Ravi and in the God he knew and loved and served,
Margie
Did Margie really write this??
VC John, where did you get this? It's the first time we have heard from her.
Where did you get this....
Yeah but it's their own ministry that did the investigation. RZIM hired independent investigators to look into the accusations. I think the messages ,texts and emails to other women and naked pics of women found on his phone speak volumes.
@@gailjones4165 might have been done with the assistance of a crisis PR team. Looks pretty polished.
Lori Ann Thompson's accusation and suing Ravi for $$$ is what made people initially think that it was all about the money.
Indeed
@@LM-hb6yn There is a punishment they could seek like prison time.
@@LM-hb6yn Thanks for responding. She is totally correct to blow the whistle on predator Ravi. He totally betrayed the trust of many. But she also betrayed the trust of her husband.
For her remaining days she should be getting the therapy she needs to cope with abuse she suffered. And also advice young women to avoid the mistakes she made.... sending nude photos to a man not her husband etc.
Pointing the finger at someone else and trying to sue is not what she should be doing, but dealing with her side of the issue before God and soul searching.
If you think the best thing for her to do right now is not to seek forgiveness. and get treatments etc, and instead sue for millions... then that's up to you.
Ask yourself...where have you seen this movie before ? Where have accusers suddenly come out of the woodwork where they kept silent for sometimes twenty years after the allegations ? How come Ravi's accusers didn't say anything when the Me Too movement was loosening all manner of female tongues? Remember the appointment of Supreme Court Justice Thomas ? ...remember the appointment of Supreme Court Justice Kavanagh ? Well , they aren't even Christians and look what happened to them . The number one way that satan tries to bring down the contenders for the gospel of Jesus Christ is through sexual allegations , the second is through money, and the third is through their health . And we know from reading the Bible that he prefers to destroy his victims and watch them and their family and friends suffer...for maximum damage and humiliation. Is this not the story of Job ? So how come he never was able to destroy Ravi while he was alive ? What's the next best thing? Destroy his reputation when he can't defend himself...and destroy the work of God accomplished through Ravi's service. This is my conclusion on the matter having read the Bible which exposes the devil's schemes.
@@markanthony3275 There are many reasons women can be silent in cases like this, and if you can't think of any other reason than they are all being deceptive and lying then that says a lot about you. (i am not saying that every single one of them is necessarily all 100% truthful either)
For me, what I think turned this case around is when those close to Ravi (his daughter, President of RZIM) looked at stuff like his phones, pictures, messages, emails etc. and realised what was going on. Don't forget that all these guys (Ravi's daughter, all the senior staff at RZIM) fought for his innocence. By acknowledging his guilt they are killing the goose that laid the golden egg.
What I mean by that is...... if Ravi is guilty they all lose their ministry and their jobs. If they can prove he is innocent, they could continue his ministry and continue to receive the funding that Ravi attracted.
So, they would not have given up without a fight. Actually Ravi's daughter and wife could be considered absolutely despicable people... if they actually believe in his innocence but instead of fighting for his reputation have fully accepted the allegations.
They are not disgusting people. She has the integrity to admit that her dad did wrong.
I guess there are one or two guys on the internet who could have absolved Ravi and proved his innocence???
Shame that you guys did not get the task of proving his innocence. You'll seem to be coming up with strong "evidence" that he did not do it, and it's a shame that nobody is listening.
Right?
Seriously? For such a vital and important subject as the scandal at RZIM ministries, you had to do the interview wearing masks? I just can believe a producer agreed to this. The sound quality is muffled and I can't even understand half of what you are saying with out turning the speaker all the way up. This is absolutely absurd.
Is it even them speaking?!
I can hear and understand them just fine.
He can hide his real expressions this way
virtue signalling
Right???? TAKE THEM OFF!!! RIDICULOUS!
Why the heck am I gonna watch a video where two people are talking with masks on? That's right I'm not. Not worth my time seeing these two worried about getting each other sick with the flu. SMH 🤦♂️
The problem is ..sexual sins.. can't be excused.. but look at David he paid dearly. There are many good things about Ravi.. we can't erase him. This is important to remember..the fallible , finite state of humanity..and even Christians fail horrendously. EVERYONE OF US.
David repented. Ravi dug his heals in, retaliated, and lied until the day of his death.
Truth!!!
@@ZandarKoad you weren't there in his last moments, you dont know if he made it right with God
@@kimberlystringer6055You weren't there in his last moments. You don't know that he did.
What about the sexual sin in the Garden of Eden ?
Ridiculous Mask conversation! Hello propaganda!
Amen! Over a year of it & counting!
Don’t get their population control vax, either!
*Zero to do w/protecting anyone from any virus.*
it would be interesting to know why he didnt speak out when it was happening
Easier to ride the coat tails of king Ravi .
Also, your masks do nothing
Hello how are you doing 😊😊😊
Never have.
Didn’t waste my time listening.
More deception propaganda here.
No different than Ravi deceiving millions.
Satan’s having a field day.
Sad and terrifying I once considered this man to be one of the good ones. Sad sad stuff
Fix your eyes on him alone
Such bs
Likely true? Erase God erase Jesus erase Ravi that's the agenda
He WAS a good man with an addiction. A sin in his life. Take the good and TRUTHFUL words he spoke and forgive him for his sinful actions. And pray he made things right with God
Finny they wait til he dies to come FWD when he isnt here to defend himself sue his estate ..hmm?
Could have done the interview obviously socially distanced, but without the masks.. Would've made it easier to listen to and watch..
Saw the masks, LAUGHED🤣 & hit the mute to read comments.
The Nazi style propaganda is so over the top.
Never fell for any of the Globalist Cabal bs they’ve pushed for well over a year.
Sad countless Millions have.
High price will be paid. Very high. :/
There are some things in life that only God can solve. And this is one of them. irrespective of what was said, a man is innocent until proven guilty. I know and can state emphatically that my life has been positively and spiritually touched, challenged and transformed by Ravi's teaching of the Gospel.
I have learned how to be humbly and treat people with respect especially when they disagree with you. I watch him keenly in those question and answer sessions and knew he was been led by God. What is before us today I cannot handle I have to let God pan it out the way only He can. RIP Ravi. and may God strengthen his Margie and the rest of the Family. Walk good Man Of God.
God will use anything for His good.
And uses sinful men all the time.
Only God knows the heart of all.
And only God knows where Ravi is now.
Man you are very deluded ,if this religion was true abuse of children,babies, women..wouldn t be this rife ,what you call spirit isn t doing it for your leaders and the rest ,it s a man made book
Pharisees also were 'holy'. Denying guilt of something so out in the open is difficult to accept.
Ravi Zacharias is most likely innocent, he never got a chance to defend himself. His wife Margie found absolutely nothing in question after 54 years of marriage. Including no pictures, this investigation was tainted to take a man down.
It's kind of hard to say that someone who engages in the kind of stuff he did is a "good man of God."
I cant take this interview seriously with your mask on. remove it
Can not hear with the masks? It is garbled.
Do you really have to wear a mask during this interview?? 😖😖
Ps. After going through some of the comments, I am relieved to see how many people realize how ignorant it is to be wearing those muzzles.
Hello how are you doing 😊😊😊
Jesus Christ is coming to take us home soon.amen
Jorunn. Def.!
@@iankrawiec4323 Where are you from if i may ask?
@@jasonbryan9056 I am from Scotland
The face diapers don't help. 😷
Propaganda pushing. :/
RZIM should fold shop, dissolve your organization, return all the money, compensate all the victims, pay for counselling for victims, and remove all his books from printing. Everyone is “sad” about what Ravi did, where is the cry for justice for these abused women? They couldve been your sister, daughter, or mother...
They are staring to do this. Just please stay updated.
Changing ministry name is not closing shop. To many false teachers at rzim anyways glad to see it go or be faithful to the LORD
It doesn’t make what he wrote bad.
why should any of these things be done when Ravi stands completely Innocent,, the real winner here is Satan, cause the millions who have stopped listening to what this great teacher had to offer, and millions in future will consider Ravi cancelled.... . evidence is only good , if not fabricated to fit a certain narrative : go here to see what really happened defendingravi.wordpress.com/
@@wlonsdale1 exactly and especially when Ravi is Innocent .... evidence is only good , if not fabricated to fit a certain narrative : go here to see what really happened defendingravi.wordpress.com/
Mark 4:22 (KJV)
For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.
Stupid silly masks.
Gotta keep up the propaganda!😂
Turned it off. Can’t be bothered w/any of it.
No masks. No vax.
All evil government BS.
I'm 1:44 in and I'm turning it off because of the masks. So stupid!
This guy seems like he just wants the spotlight. Why didn’t speak about the “culture” of RZIM before? Why wait, if you were so convicted? 🤡
Exactly! Am not idolizing RZ but why these people aren't showed up when he is still alive why only now????
Agree 10000% ... If he was so convicted he should have brought this on earlier, question is why didnt he... the answer is How could he? when the guy to be shot was innocent....so wait till he dies and then carry your evil schemes...go here for the truth . evidence is only good , if not fabricated to fit a certain narrative : go here to see what really happened defendingravi.wordpress.com/
@@winterlou9084 agree...why only when he passed away...i doubt this as true..but we just pray let God reveal d truth and keep Ravi's family and ministry at peace and keep touching people's heart for Christ..let b d Christ b glorified not man.
I started watching it but due to the muffled audio caused by them wearing masks, I stopped. If they were so worried about germs, they should have sat farther apart.
Just more of their Cabal propaganda bs.
I didn’t listen either.
They’re talking about Ravi’s deception, when they’re deceiving ppl too. Just in a different way.
Satan’s having a field day before the Wrath.
I’m sorry, I completely agree that these victims needs a voice and it’s a good thing that the truth about Ravi is coming out. But where is he getting that stats he quotes at the end? Where is he getting that 1/3 girls are sexually abused in Canada before age 18? And where is he getting the number that it’s the same within the church as it is outside the church. Does anyone know where he is getting this from? I’ve seen these stats come from extremely unrealiable sources and also misquoted all the time as well. If he’s misrepresenting, this is a problem. He’s reflecting RZIM culture that he is so quick to denounce if that’s the case.
Ravi was very good at what he did and noone could beat him. Now that he is dead the vultures are out for the spoils.
im still wonder.why only this things came out once Ravi is gone.
This is a serious topic so take the stupid masks off!
Amen. This mask nonsense is getting really REALLY OLD! Sit a little further apart during the interview and take off those stupid, pretty much worthless masks!!!
they know exactly Ravi cant fight or back himself when he already passed.
Wish he would have removed the mask...annoying to watch and listen..gave up.
Same.
Propaganda overdrive is 🤮
A masked interview is very distracting... space out and speak clearly. Can’t see facial expressions either. Bad production
Didn’t watch or listen b/c of the propaganda bs.
The mask should tell you all you need to know.
Yes! And worse is speaking with it!
This is also a bad time for lip readers!
Iam calling out for help from anywhere. Any soul out there willing to help come to my rescue. Thank you.
What’s wrong?
I see your message. Please reply and I'll hear your plea. There is hope. How can I serve you?
God is good all the time, He's got you! Don't lose hope
Why the hell are they wearing masks?
Pushing propaganda like too many others do now. 🤮
Did not like Ravi's work, but to see the people in the company being shocked when I knew things were amiss from the lawyer who was putting out clear evidence is pretty pathetic. I wasn't going on hearsay, the evidence was from court documents.
Then you don’t know what Ravi’s work entailed.
@@wlonsdale1 I am very familiar. I followed him for almost 2 decades
Why only after his death people speak out about this when the man is not able to defend himself!? I dont believe in all these nonsense! Why wait after he died?!
What a lot of tripe. I am 5:11 into this video and I am still seeing nothing other than virtue signalling. I am waiting to hear examples of the toxic culture at RZIM. Thank God I now know how wonderful "Dunkin doughnut"is and I am especially pleased to hear that Danie Gilman is an advocate for abused women. There are serious people who do not believe that you can bring the Gospel as effective as Ravi did while living in active sin and our faith is shaken. We are desperately looking for answers that makes sense. These kinds of videos are not helping anybody. It is ironically Ravi's Gospel that will get you into heaven and not your own virtue signalling.
The statement that "Ravis Gospel will get you to heaven" is heresy. The Gospel is not his.
@@WETBACK4TRUMP It was a contextual statement - I stand by the spirit of it and I think your nitpicking is unnecessary and makes me wonder about your motives. What you will need to do is to take one of Ravi's books and critique his depiction of the Gospel in one of those books and you will have made your point.
Do we know exactly what Ravi's gospel was? I remember his teaching mostly apologetics, philosophy, and logic. He defended the Christian faith and teachings of Jesus, but did he specifically teach the biblical, saving gospel of Jesus? I have not read his books, but I have heard him preach/teach. Maybe I missed it.
He who is without sin cast the first stone
There's no one casting stones but when one claims they are Christ representative one should take heed and not abuse that position for you will be held accountable to a Holy God
These masks are utterly ridiculous.
I just do not understand this nonsense at using masks!!! CAN'T STAND IT!!
I love Ravi and will not turn my back on him for being human. I pray for the woman and his family. Ravi led me so much further down the path towards the Lord I cannot forget that! He was human and spoke of the wretched human heart. I think I can trust he was speaking from experience. Again I do not forget the people who have been negatively affected but will also remember the positive
Maintain the distance and take off the the mask. Just little common sense!
Doesn’t suit the propaganda machine.
Hands up, who thinks non-disclosure clauses should be banned? They only serve the evil rich.
Why don't these people come out, with these stories, when people are alive????
They did and were cast aside. RZ lied about many things for a long time. There were many red flags.
They did! RZ bullied and silenced them and denied access to his phones and other evidence of his guilt that only became available after his death.
Because they saw what R did to Lori Anne and they were afraid of being disbelieved and slandered and sued, just like Lori Anne.
EXACTLY !!!!! .. but how can you come out when the man is alive when youer lying about the whole ravi scandal, cause ravi had nothing to hide....Read Ravi's Sons version of what happened and you will get some perspective on why this whole conspiracy was executed on Ravi .. go here ..defendingravi.wordpress.com/
They did! Dude was powerdul and so were his lawyers! His ministry covered it up becaus ethey had AlOT to lose. They got paid to work at the ministry. It would ruin their livelihoods. They did a vid on here apologizing to the public.
1 in 3 persons abused is way too high a number. Check DOJ or National police statistics, FBI, that sort of site for correct #'s. Abuse Advocacy is a very important thing, though.
FBI?🤣
I heard it was 1:4 ten years ago.
Ravi's case show that apologetics, mixing of Scripture with science and philosophy to please men is not acceptable to God. More to practice the teachings of Jesus Christ rather than just preaching like a world scholar. Does any apologist defend based on scripture only and scripture alone?
Yes they do! Pastor Mike Winger. He’s great.
evidence is only good , if not fabricated to fit a certain narrative : go here to see what really happened defendingravi.wordpress.com/ and if you still consider him to be guilty then so be it .. i have nothing to say after that
Another confusion, moving from preaching the gospel to advocating for victims of abuse. Was he with rzim because of Ravi or for the sake of the gospel of Jesus Christ?
What tells you he has stopped preaching the Gospel? A true believer will have compassion on the victims of an abuser. Yes, love is part of the Gospel. Actually it is essential.
Knowledge does not equal understanding.
Be doers of the Word... not just hearers.
Couldn't you sit 7 feet apart and remove the mask? Good grief.
Hello how are you doing 😊😊😊😊
I don't believe a word. Why all this accusations after his death? This people destroying reputations!!!
"painful, acknowledge and process".
This is how we are real and followers if Christ Jesus.
Our truth, Way and our Life
My Lord
Sad to hear and to watch. Worst when taking advantage of the situation.
Wow! Gilman is making a second career out of working for an abuser now. What qualifies him for this job? Just his experiences at RZIM? Talk about landing on one's feet after a crisis. Whew.
I think a lot of those in leadership have burnt RZ for a new career in care for victims of abuse.
.....this interview tells me nothing. What exactly did Ravi do? Can somebody define 'sexual abuse'?
.see the news man
Some people say things because they know someone is no longer around to refute it. Just saying.
Hmmm
We don’t “know” know what happened. Accusations have surfaced and the accused is deceased. All we know is that a law firm was hired to investigate. Anything in the digital world can be manipulated; it’s a sad fact of the world we live in now. Not saying it didn’t happen, but we truly don’t know.
As of now, it's one sided since the man is deceased.
I would call this whole thing a "unsolved" mystery because I don't think 100% he is guilty.
I could be wrong though.
@@MultiBigAndy Absolutely ridiculous. This has been an issue with him for SEVERAL YEARS AND HE WAS CONFRONTED ON IT AND LIED. HE IS GUILTY. They have DIRECT EMAILS WHERE HE ADMITS TO IT. Do you honestly think all these women are lying, all these photos (over 2000 are fake).
His slow painful death is testimony that God is not asleep. When Ravi attempted to enter heaven he heard - “ l never knew you - get away from me you wicked people” : Matthew 7:21-23
So hard to understand you guys with the masks! Would love to listen to this but..
Same.
Sick propaganda pushers.
We are TIRED to death hearing about him - no more. Please, let the dead be dead and we be prepared for the final judgement as Revelation 20: 15 says. Thank you.
I was going to watch this, then saw the masks 👎
Trumpian lol
It's called being safe
Keep living in fear...😂
@@biancap1549 Difference of opinion, name calling is lame.
@@chalmapatterson6093 difference of opinion when someone's life can be put at risk?
Turn on the caption or subtitle option
Even the best David fail at his time , what do u expect from human ,they fall n get up ,look Jesus he never fails
Of course they came forward...after his death. This is all about money
I will not trust a guy who starts speaking about a person after his death, who sat sliently and conveniently benefitting from his name and work while he was alive. Sorry.
Why none, not even one person, spoke and a year after his death, suddenly got "convictions". What? It sounds spurious.
From what I heard and understood even the company that did the investigations are also in that "finding the dirt" league. Somehow I can't digest the timing.
Even now I am praying for his wife and children.
If Ravi did wrong he is accoutable to God. If you are lying about everything, then you are accoutable to God.
For the rest of us, we have to live our life with fear and trembling.
Satan tries to destroy every one who accepts Lord Jesus Christ.
I had to put on the close caption because I couldn't understand what they were saying.
Why bother?
Propaganda pushers don’t deserve the wasted time.
Talk about Tara Reede and Biden
Biden is above the law.
Tara's story keeps changing and morphing like a chameleon on crack and that's not a good look hence why she didn't have a case.
Hunters drugged out sexcapades, all over his laptop from Hell.
Also incriminating Big DaddiO & the Million$ made w/Xi’s $ex trade industry.
Soooo much more covered up.
We are truly in the End of End Days.
And all those Evil doing minions of satan will get their ‘just desserts’ from their God they flipped the bird to for decades.
If he knew it was going on prior why not say anything then? Was he more worried about his job $$$ than exposing the abuse? Is he doing it now to make $$$ ? I sense a homosexual spirit on this guy