Remember when Cor Angar was known for being a disciplined warrior of purpose and suffered from headaches from the influence of the sleeper? And near the end of Gothic 2 he said he was tired of all the violence and wanted to seek out a peaceful life as a farmer? Then in Gothic3 he became some blowhard former shell of what he once was and was nonchalantly fighting in the arena for money and didn't bring up how he came to grips with his past... but was just like "hey! I'm making good money fighting now. have a drink on me, hahaha!" - After this moment, and the uneventful, uninteresting dealings with Xardas and the freeing of the capital city that I quit this game and never looked back. Gothic 1 & 2 are some of my favorite games, and Gothic 3 will always be the poster boy of disappointment until the day I die.
Main DIfference in G1 + G2 to G3: in G1 and G2 they actually made dialogue based on how people would act, if they really lived there! In G3 they wrote dialogue based on a videogame.
I am convinced that Gothic 3 was still considerd a Alpha when Jowood gave PB the deadline for the release. Kinda sad to think about what this game could have been. Anyway, thank you for all the work you put into the Vids and if you ever decide to make new ones i will be watching ;)
They just wrapped up the plot to whatever they could pull off the quickest and the game was left to this alpha or whatever state during that time. If they had several more years to develop the game, they could've created one of the best games ever... Pity, the series had a lot of potential.
Watchin in 2018, just here to remind you that there is a deeper reason why hashishin worship beliar. Its because Innos created the sun, and it burns their land and steals their water or something along those lines.
The first minute literally killed me due to my muscle soreness in my stomach xD But honestly Durmin, you are an awesome dude who deserves more attention. I really enjoyed all of your reviews because of your brilliant humor. So I just hope that you will maybe return in time when Elex, the new piranha Bytes game, is released ;)
Gothic 3 was my first open world RPG. When I was 13 - shiet, this game was the reason why I started missing school lol. Now when I played 1 and 2 I get why people don't like the 3. Still it's a lovely damn game, I mean the world feels very alive, the immersion is great!
I discovered your channel by accident and I love your Gothic videos and especially your humour. It’s sad you do not make more content nevertheless thank you!
LOL Walking Simulator - you killed me man xD EDIT: Hey btw you missed an important point. Depending on what you do and which god you choose, you get a different ending - i.e. a different slide show xD
I seriously hated how they changed the orcs in part 3. The whole "the orcs on Khorinis were primitive savages separate from the orcs on the mainland" The orcs always felt mysterious and scary. In part 3, they felt pretty much like humans with gruff voices. All mystery and fear of the orcs was gone since now they talk and can actually align with you...
Lee wanted to kill the king, because he declared Lees guilt in assassinating the Kings wife... even though he was inocente. Lee tells this story in gothic 1 :)
Lee's speech in Gothic 1, and I quote: "But the nobles didn't like me, because the king listened to my advice. And they knew I posed a threat to their dirty business. I hadn't counted on their insidiousness. They used the king's wife to get me. I was blamed for her murder. King Rhobar had no other choice. The services I had rendered my country saved me from the gallows. But they robbed me of my freedom. One day I'll be free again. Then I'll return and take revenge. *I shall have my revenge* ." So, Lee himself admits that king Rhobar II was played by the nobles, and even then the king managed to save Lee from an execution for a perceived murder. Doesn't look like Lee hates the king much. The rest of the nobles? Sure, the former general might slaughter the entire court. But not necessarily the king.
Also: you hunt Dark Snappers with Diego, not Lurkers, and the novelty viking hat originally was a 'legendary' item available only in a tomb in Nordmaar; it was not in any rebel vendor inventory until the CPT.
Um, we actually know what happened to Lee and the King since gothic 1... There was a scene where lee was standing in front of the water dam in the New Camp, (where homer used to wait until you kill the lurker). He says something about the king's wife trying to seduce him, and him staying loyal, but the next day the king turned against him cause his wife told him stuff, 10/10 would describe a story from 7 years back out of memory...
No, he actually tells you that he was framed for the murder of the queen by the court. And the King had no choice but to imprison him because he would have been otherwise executed. Lee himself told you that the King wasn't to blame and that he wants to take revenge on the court. And yet, in G3, he just wants to kill the King.
it seems it was coincidence... somebody said there is some art that exist for gothic 1 and it was suppose to be much bigger place... they finally got big place with gothic 3 and... rest is history
Excellent review. Even though I did enjoy the game at the time, I liked it mainly for the exploration, and only for the middle part of the entire map (The nice green area with trees...not the dessert or the snow). Please review Forsaken Gods! That will be another laugh fest.
I almost chocked with laughter, lol! Unfortunately, my experience with Gothic started with G3FG, then G3 and now I'm moving on to G2 and NoTR expansions (complete reverse, I know). But I admit, I kinda loved the whole open world concept. And here I am, after watching the review! G3FG is not a game, it's a corpse of a game. But now, even G3 feels like a toygame, lol. An excellent review, I must say. :-)
Perfect! That part with Bilbo had me rolling on the floor :D But you didn't pay attention in the Gothic I to the Lee's story, because it was explained there what happened to him (I think it was written in one if the books or some scroll)... he basically wanted to report some kind of corruption but the lords conspired against him and managed to persuade the king that he Lee had an affair with his wife. (I learnt this from G1, I think)
+GodmyX Yes this is true and a lot of people forget this point or dialog. Lee said, in the first game, that the king had no choice but to put him into the prison. Since the second game he is just seeking revenge for that but he knows that the king couldn't help him. It is a little bit strange that he who knows the corruption weakened the king now only wants to kill this king. The dialog with Lee where he told his story plays on the bridge of the new colony in the first Gothic.
Even after all this years, this trilogy of videos is still great! Will there be a return of Durming Paradox alongside with the Gothic Remake? Remains to be seen.
Great vid! I'm fairly sure Lee(or someone else) explains why he wants to kill the king. Something about betrayal or corruption , I can't really remember, I could never get forsaken gods to play at more than 10fps, I hope you'll 'review' it soon.
+The Real CHIM Shady There is no Gothic 4. The game you meanwas "Arcania - A Gothic Tale". his ist the final name. And know the lisence is back in the hands of PB, so Jowood/Nordic Games has no right anymore to call it A Gothic tale.
Probably you don't care what I think but it can be put down in one line. Whole gods conflict from previous games is now reduced to one lady god with menopause. I wish I was kidding.
hm, people give this game alot of hate. But as an non serious gamer, this is actually the best rpg i've ever played (for me). If you just avoid some broken mechanics like finding the fire sword in the beginning of the game. it becomes major fun. also with the patches it really does help. I played gothic 2 notr and while it is really fun, I dont really like the early realization that no matter how strong you are for the first 75% of the game, some random npc will 1 or 2 shot you because every npc has like 70% critical hit chance. while in gothic 3, you do really start off as a wimp but the progression of strength is really satisfying. also Fuck wild boars, those things are a plague.
I found out about the location of Xardas' tower from the map that came with the game. And as for the Forsaken Gods game; I've never been able to play that for longer than 30 minutes. It just sucked :/ Maybe Durmin can prove me wrong..
It's a good game. And a really enjoyable one, but ONLY if you take it as a separate game, with no high expectations that came from the previous two. Really, it would be better, if it only didn't have the name Gothic attached to it.
What the fuck are you smoking? It's still be an unfinished buggy piece of shit with terrible questing and shitty combat. Literally the only people defending this turd of a game are people who played it when they were like 12 years old and loved it because they didn't know what a good game is. Take off your fucking nostalgia goggles.
If you load shit tone of community made patches and mods Gothic 3 is descent, even awesome in some cases. But... that which shall not be named, coz I dont wanna throw up on my keyboard typing it, dude... what which came after... even the patches and mods cant fix THAT!
Risen 1, it's okay, and it feels like a second attempt to make G3. Risen 2 and 3, not really good still had fun Elex, Best since G2, some of the quests writing and design were pretty clever gave me that old camp feel in G1. I actually had alot to say about Elex i should still have notes on it somewhere. Unfortunately it feels like after gothic 3 PB decided to remake G2 untill the end of time, and that's the main thing, they feel like They're just trying to do G2 again. Oh i also played Arcania. It's a dumpsterfire, couldn't finish it
Durmin Paradox so you would make an elex review sometime or you Really have no Time for that? Btw i have finished g1 a Week ago and i play g2 at the Moment i had played Elex a month ago and well its the Best since g2 even i still prefer g2👍 Never played arcania😲
I watched all of your Gothic Reviews up to now and i am hyped for one on "forsaken... PIECE OF SHIT". It's sad that PBs Gothic-Series had to end this way... raped and killed by people that obviously had no idea, what gothic was about or should be. #TrineGames #JoWood #Spellbound I wondered if you are planing to review Arcania and Risen 1 as well. Cause if you are... that would be AWWWWWWWWWesome. Your Videos are awesome and the fact that you are making them so fast makes them even more impressiv. I want to hugg you
I am not sure about that. Björn Pankratz sad that, he and his team want to build this new ip up and dont like the idea of going back to Gothic and Myrtana... and to be honest... I would not want them to got back to it either. The IP was raped by other developers and Jowood and the World Myrtana is not that interessting. And they would have to take Arcania in to account when they would want to continue the Story... but that would be hard and i guess the payoff would be underwhelming. The idea of a Gothic 1 remake with new visuals and a few more sidequest and stuff like that would seem mutch more reasonable to me... And as long as they wont call it just "Gothic" without a suptitel or something that makes it obvious that its a remake i would be happy to spend money on that...
Cyprien der Kotschmeister The only thing they said is that Gothic would be to much preassure right now and that they want to try something else after all These years of normal Fantasy.
Yes... i guess i interpreted a little to mutch into the Statements of PB ^^" Sorry and thanks for correcting me. But would you really like them to make an other Gothic-Game? I am very sceptical towards that idea...
Actually that Paladin Sword is part of a quest, you need to retrieve it for a paladin. Also the thing is that there are a few very well hidden caves with treasures and there is some good loot. I also found it ridiculous on how good the orcs treated you, i mean they freaking treated you better then most human factions in Gothic 3 lol. I get that they respect strength but to some extent they felt more like the good guys then the good guys lol. As for the ending, i need to point back at my comment that i made during your part 2 of the Gothic II review, Xardas is bound to be an avatar, although he thought that by becoming an avatar he might brake free of the chains of fate it didn't happen, while he did get Beliar's power he didn't get the freedom of the Undead Dragon (he was not bound by fate as well), leaving your character to be the only one not bound by fate and the gods. That's why you can pick any side you want and learn from them all. That said the game is a mess, the main fun i had was with liberating the cities and walking around and exploring the beautiful world it had. One more video remains, and that one i couldn't even finish it or play it more then 1-2 hours... Hope its an hilarious video as well :p.
I've been thinking for a while about playing Gothic 3 for the first time. I replayed the first two games and they're still great so I thought Gothic 3 can't be that bad with the community patch. You changed my mind, I guess it really is as bad as people say. Maybe I'll replay Risen 1 again... it was decent.
+mrbitbot You should really give G3 a try, it's not as bad as people say it is. eventho this review is good your own experience can differ and you might still enjoy it. I would've missed loads of gems if i decided not to play a game due to reviews.
+mrbitbot forget about this review, play the game, then form your own opinion. thats what i had to do, because reviews like this can really ruin your game experience.
bro its not that bad, its still better than most other rpg's. trust, I had more fun playing this than I did skyrim. The combat is super fun if you dont exploit. like, really fun.
That was a very lucid analysis. And summarizes why I dislike, in general, sandbox games. Also, I have the impression the game "failed" already in the planning phase with the setting and the plot theme of chaos-order- balance (for that part, the gods have been changed every game, starting in gothic 1 with plain zoroastrianism). I still like the game, and survived the bugfest before the patches. There are enjoyable things; the demigod state at high level, the exploration, the different climates and cultures -barely exposed-. From which, I liked Nordmar the most. It had kind of a gothic 1 feel. I always imagined Gothic 3 would start with your typical sinking before arriving in Myrtana (a part of it, not the whole continent) -so the hero conveniently starts weak again- by some strange forces related to Xardas, and the settlements would be hideouts of loyalists, convicts and new camp-like guys, and maybe some crazy faction.
Something that killed me about "destroying the artifacts." WTF about these: The Eye of Innos. The Claw of Beliar. Uriziel. The ancient Ore Armor that kept you alive in the temple of the Sleeper. The consecrated sword of Innos. The Fire Chalices... ame I missing some? Are those NOT god artifacts??
OH No! No, No, No, NO! Forsaken Gods! Why did you have to remind of of that awful game. May all the Gods be with you on that one. Jokes aside, i really did forget about that game. I dont know what your plans are when you finish the Gothic series but you could take a look at the "Star Wars - Knights of the old Republic" games.
What can i say? Although i can relate to most of the Things said in the Video, i still had great fun with Gothic 3. Maybe it was because i didnt exploit the weaknesses in the Combat, or actually roleplayed as a faction, didnt really notice Bugs etc. ? In the end i still seemed to enjoy the normal quests and Gameplay although both are supposed to be repetititive. Its weird, i know.
It's incredible how much money I threw at this game as a young child... I actually never finished it for the mess it created with my pc and the boring combat, only tried to get the ending of Adanos using godmode lol
Yeah, me too. I was 20 years old when it came out. I had crappy computer that I played gothic 1 and 2 on but knew wouldn't be able to play part 3. So I got a better job, saved up 1000 dollars, bought a new computer and then on Gothic 3's release day I got the game. I loved 1 and 2 and never played anything as immersive as those games. I loved the story too and couldn't wait to see how the series would conclude. To say I was disappointed with what I got is an understatement. I didn't understand how a series with so much substance could have such a soulless and uninspired game in it. It almost felt like Gothic 3 was made by a different developer. It was really sad
Is there any lore connection in this game??? I really enjoyed oblivion cuz funny side quests but Im trying this game for the 3rd and prob last time, to get in it.
+Robert F I agree 100% with you on that. If you make up a little story on you own and use the (for the most part) beatuiful landscape of Myrtana and ignore the lame fighting you can have a blast playing G3... if patch of course
Did you notice that you actually dont know where Xardas tower is for a HUUGE time and then I fucking looked at the case of the CD and theres a map similar to the world map ingame except that there are some special marks Theres Xardas tower at the map for example o.o
If you want that Gothic 1-2 feel try Content mod...it enchances the gothic feel but does nothing to combat system and adds little quests, new items and I cant even imagine G3 without it, and also you can download new textures for orcs and beasts that look like from g1-2 so for me as a nostalgia player of gothic series I am glad just for that atmosphere :)...but still Gothic 2 NotR rocks! :)
Great review, as always. Though I think that reviewing Arcania and Forsaken Gods is pointless, because these games are obviously shitty. I would rather see your thoughts about Risen 1, which I consider was almost as enjoyable as Gothic 1 and 2.
10:52 If I remember correctly, there was this one talking Ork in Gothic I, who told you about the Orks of the main land (Myrtana). He mentioned that they were much more civilized than the Orks of the island Khorinis. I think he even said that they had a language and could speak. I agree that it's strange to have the Orks be like animals in the first two games, and then make them into humanoids in the third. But the devs foreshadowed this transition in the first game... So you can't really brush that off as an inconsistency...
What a tragic ending to an amazing IP. I played 1&2 and loved them so much(after reconfiguring the ini file ofcourse) that I bring them up to this day when talking about RPGs or someone looking for something like Elder Scrolls: Morrowind. I never played Gothic 3 Idk why probably from reading a review. Is it worth playing at all? Does it retain anything that made the first 2 great
Great review! I remember thinking that this is pretty much like an mmorpg too ... without the m or o-bits. Pretty disappointing ending to a franchise that started so well. But yeah you can always go much much lower ... 19:27
@@valentinpavlov2882 Average? Lmao you're so full of shit you fanboy. They are both awful but at least Skyrim is playable. Gothic 3 is literally a 3/10 if 1 is Ride to Hell Retribution and 10 is KotOR.
+James Mercer Thanks, glad you like the content! I'm probably gonna cover Fallout 4 when it comes out. The last metal gear game i've played was MGS1, i don't consider myself to be enough of an expert of the franchise to be able to say anything interesting. Also Superbunnyhop and Matthew Mathosis already did such an amazing job in covering the saga that there really is no point in even trying. And on Mad Max, again i only watched the first movie quite a long time ago, i don't think i'd have much to say either. Thanks for the suggestions though!
+CESSKAR For what they have said in an interview with the RocketBeans I can't wait to see and play Elex. It sounds like Gothic 1 and 2 is now in the future where a fluid turns everything into evil but also makes everything stronger and that the player can also consume this fluid to strenghten but loosing mind power. It just sounds awesome. I hope it will turn out great again. Well this is my expectation.
I always say, if you can't make your core game mechanics work. Then don't do the f*cking game in the first place! 1. Game Mechanics 2. World/Level Design, and never the other way around! Or you get a Gothic 3. Every simpleton can do static Levels and door triggers. But animations and especially complicated stuff like a combat system. Need to be done by people who now what they are doing. And they have to be prioritized. This may change by puzzle heavy games like Portal, with level morphing. But a Portal doesn't have much interaction, aside from shooting two colored bubbles and listening to sweet talking sentry bots. Gothic series, Rune, Blade of Darkness etc. what do you do all the time? You fight. Does the world change multiple times, or morphs constantly? No. You open simple doors with simple triggers. Focus on what matters most. And that is what the player is doing all the damn time. Developers Fix & get Yo'$hit together!!!
Durmin Paradox has a talent of oration and persuasion. I am now convinced that Gothic 3 was fucking shit, even though I do remember enjoying it immensely in it's fully patched up content modded state. However, If Gothic 3 is a vast souless collection of fetch and kill quests, then what does that make Skyrim, which DP has stated that he enjoyed? At least with Gothic 3, the action actually takes place 'on the land', as opposed to 90% of it being restricted to cordoned off 'dungeons'. So if Gothic 3 is shit, why then is Skyrim great?
@@user-or8ql3fe5v gothic 3 didnt keep up the legacy by gothic 1 and 2... The first two were designed and written really well..and part 2 took off perfect where part 1 ended..how you make your way to korinis and how you get immersed by too powerful enemies, good dialogues etc.. Gothic 3 did a shit job with this..
No no no...not the Forsaken Gods no...Gothic 3 was a falling train yeah that's true, but Forsaken Gods...not even a game, not even a wreck of a train...( i don't know how a human creature can possibly make such idiocy...i really don't know...)
Still missing Durmin in 2019..
"S" on my chest means "Sad"
xerdust got him
COVID must’ve yeeted him
kinda sad that u gave up on ur channel ur videos was fun to watch
Remember when Cor Angar was known for being a disciplined warrior of purpose and suffered from headaches from the influence of the sleeper? And near the end of Gothic 2 he said he was tired of all the violence and wanted to seek out a peaceful life as a farmer? Then in Gothic3 he became some blowhard former shell of what he once was and was nonchalantly fighting in the arena for money and didn't bring up how he came to grips with his past... but was just like "hey! I'm making good money fighting now. have a drink on me, hahaha!" - After this moment, and the uneventful, uninteresting dealings with Xardas and the freeing of the capital city that I quit this game and never looked back. Gothic 1 & 2 are some of my favorite games, and Gothic 3 will always be the poster boy of disappointment until the day I die.
At least we're getting History of Khorinis
The screen of xardas' tower is from the community patch.
Main DIfference in G1 + G2 to G3:
in G1 and G2 they actually made dialogue based on how people would act, if they really lived there!
In G3 they wrote dialogue based on a videogame.
I am convinced that Gothic 3 was still considerd a Alpha when Jowood gave PB the deadline for the release. Kinda sad to think about what this game could have been. Anyway, thank you for all the work you put into the Vids and if you ever decide to make new ones i will be watching ;)
They just wrapped up the plot to whatever they could pull off the quickest and the game was left to this alpha or whatever state during that time. If they had several more years to develop the game, they could've created one of the best games ever... Pity, the series had a lot of potential.
It's interesting to watch these Gothic videos in sequence. You get to watch Jontron slowly turn into Mr Plinkett. But with an accent.
Music and the environment always makes me come back to this game, just as much as the first and the second part.
Watchin in 2018, just here to remind you that there is a deeper reason why hashishin worship beliar. Its because Innos created the sun, and it burns their land and steals their water or something along those lines.
The first minute literally killed me due to my muscle soreness in my stomach xD
But honestly Durmin, you are an awesome dude who deserves more attention. I really enjoyed all of your reviews because of your brilliant humor. So I just hope that you will maybe return in time when Elex, the new piranha Bytes game, is released ;)
Gothic 3 was my first open world RPG. When I was 13 - shiet, this game was the reason why I started missing school lol. Now when I played 1 and 2 I get why people don't like the 3. Still it's a lovely damn game, I mean the world feels very alive, the immersion is great!
Durmin spent 40 minutes carefully explaining why this game is unimmersive trash and yet you call it immersive. This game is garbage.
@@rks8820 who the fuck's that wanker and why should I count his opinion
@@rks8820 whoa snowflake, where you gone
@@rks8820 baah little gatekeeper bitch. Not everyone spends their live's playing games.
Thank you Durmin, this gave me well needed closure on my Gothic 3 trauma.. while pinpointing exactly what made Gothic 1 & 2 so great. Hut ab!
I discovered your channel by accident and I love your Gothic videos and especially your humour. It’s sad you do not make more content nevertheless thank you!
13:26 - one of the funniest screencaps I've ever seen! I haven't laughed so hard for a long time.
LOL Walking Simulator - you killed me man xD
EDIT: Hey btw you missed an important point. Depending on what you do and which god you choose, you get a different ending - i.e. a different slide show xD
I seriously hated how they changed the orcs in part 3. The whole "the orcs on Khorinis were primitive savages separate from the orcs on the mainland" The orcs always felt mysterious and scary. In part 3, they felt pretty much like humans with gruff voices. All mystery and fear of the orcs was gone since now they talk and can actually align with you...
Lee wanted to kill the king, because he declared Lees guilt in assassinating the Kings wife... even though he was inocente.
Lee tells this story in gothic 1 :)
Lee's speech in Gothic 1, and I quote:
"But the nobles didn't like me, because the king listened to my advice. And they knew I posed a threat to their dirty business. I hadn't counted on their insidiousness. They used the king's wife to get me. I was blamed for her murder. King Rhobar had no other choice. The services I had rendered my country saved me from the gallows. But they robbed me of my freedom. One day I'll be free again. Then I'll return and take revenge. *I shall have my revenge* ."
So, Lee himself admits that king Rhobar II was played by the nobles, and even then the king managed to save Lee from an execution for a perceived murder. Doesn't look like Lee hates the king much. The rest of the nobles? Sure, the former general might slaughter the entire court. But not necessarily the king.
@@roadent217 worth-_
the peaceful music and the run mechanic made me just dropping everything and running into the wilds, crying into the wind. for some reason.
Consistency -
Konsistenz
We love you, Durmin!
What an ending.. :D
+TheNodop höhö
What is the Song at the ending? The one with the flutes?
Vista Point.
"ishtar" killed me.
i already hear mr plinkett doing this review.
Also: you hunt Dark Snappers with Diego, not Lurkers, and the novelty viking hat originally was a 'legendary' item available only in a tomb in Nordmaar; it was not in any rebel vendor inventory until the CPT.
Everything about this game is like poetry... It rhymes ;)
Come back to us, we all miss u
The chest part was wrong, every chest is random except the heavy chests which have predetermined items, the last one gives you Wrath of Innos.
Damn sir u did a great job with your vids, very funny, i like your humor :) Keep it up!
I just realized, orcs dont talk human in G1 or 2, but G3 suddenly they do...huh!
Um, we actually know what happened to Lee and the King since gothic 1... There was a scene where lee was standing in front of the water dam in the New Camp, (where homer used to wait until you kill the lurker). He says something about the king's wife trying to seduce him, and him staying loyal, but the next day the king turned against him cause his wife told him stuff,
10/10 would describe a story from 7 years back out of memory...
No, he actually tells you that he was framed for the murder of the queen by the court. And the King had no choice but to imprison him because he would have been otherwise executed. Lee himself told you that the King wasn't to blame and that he wants to take revenge on the court. And yet, in G3, he just wants to kill the King.
it seems it was coincidence... somebody said there is some art that exist for gothic 1 and it was suppose to be much bigger place... they finally got big place with gothic 3 and... rest is history
Excellent review. Even though I did enjoy the game at the time, I liked it mainly for the exploration, and only for the middle part of the entire map (The nice green area with trees...not the dessert or the snow). Please review Forsaken Gods! That will be another laugh fest.
+gahowell1 loved the dersert for the hashishins, they have such great dialogue and i like the desert itself too!
The assassin and one of the nordmar armors, i think the basic one, were actually cool tbh
"I never igured out what happened beetwen Lee and the King" Lee literally said it in G1 when Free Mine was captured.
I almost chocked with laughter, lol! Unfortunately, my experience with Gothic started with G3FG, then G3 and now I'm moving on to G2 and NoTR expansions (complete reverse, I know). But I admit, I kinda loved the whole open world concept.
And here I am, after watching the review! G3FG is not a game, it's a corpse of a game. But now, even G3 feels like a toygame, lol.
An excellent review, I must say. :-)
+Anirban Chatterjee Why don't you try gothic 1 first?
Perfect! That part with Bilbo had me rolling on the floor :D
But you didn't pay attention in the Gothic I to the Lee's story, because it was explained there what happened to him (I think it was written in one if the books or some scroll)... he basically wanted to report some kind of corruption but the lords conspired against him and managed to persuade the king that he Lee had an affair with his wife. (I learnt this from G1, I think)
+GodmyX Yes this is true and a lot of people forget this point or dialog. Lee said, in the first game, that the king had no choice but to put him into the prison. Since the second game he is just seeking revenge for that but he knows that the king couldn't help him. It is a little bit strange that he who knows the corruption weakened the king now only wants to kill this king. The dialog with Lee where he told his story plays on the bridge of the new colony in the first Gothic.
4Astaroth Yeah, exactly!
Even after all this years, this trilogy of videos is still great!
Will there be a return of Durming Paradox alongside with the Gothic Remake? Remains to be seen.
19:35 no! please no!
I was such a big fan of the first two games, I was stunned when I really didn't want to play much of the third one
Great vid! I'm fairly sure Lee(or someone else) explains why he wants to kill the king. Something about betrayal or corruption , I can't really remember,
I could never get forsaken gods to play at more than 10fps, I hope you'll 'review' it soon.
Nice review, are you going to review Gothic 4 or the risen games?
+The Real CHIM Shady There is no Gothic 4. The game you meanwas "Arcania - A Gothic Tale". his ist the final name. And know the lisence is back in the hands of PB, so Jowood/Nordic Games has no right anymore to call it A Gothic tale.
+HarteEhre I know the rights are back, but I do not believe that PB has said anything about it though.
+The Real CHIM Shady it's just called "Arcania" now (even on steam), sadly the damage has already been done :(
Probably you don't care what I think but it can be put down in one line. Whole gods conflict from previous games is now reduced to one lady god with menopause. I wish I was kidding.
Franciszek Rychlewicz I know, the lore in Gothic 4 is trash.
Again a nice review. I still liked Gothic 1 more :) Do more. Take Risen! :D
LOVE all the grim fandango soundtrack! xD gave me so much confusingly mixed up nostalgia!
you *still* look fabulous
hm, people give this game alot of hate. But as an non serious gamer, this is actually the best rpg i've ever played (for me). If you just avoid some broken mechanics like finding the fire sword in the beginning of the game. it becomes major fun. also with the patches it really does help. I played gothic 2 notr and while it is really fun, I dont really like the early realization that no matter how strong you are for the first 75% of the game, some random npc will 1 or 2 shot you because every npc has like 70% critical hit chance. while in gothic 3, you do really start off as a wimp but the progression of strength is really satisfying. also Fuck wild boars, those things are a plague.
Erm, btw, The Witcher 3 does not have "long term consequences" for its quests at all really....
I don't believe that load screen was included in the vanilla version of Gothic 3. It was added in one of the CPTs.
Xardas was implied to worship Beliar or atleast submit to him in order to gain his power.
I found out about the location of Xardas' tower from the map that came with the game. And as for the Forsaken Gods game; I've never been able to play that for longer than 30 minutes. It just sucked :/ Maybe Durmin can prove me wrong..
+Jake Belyea NOONE can prove you wrong about FG lol
It's a good game. And a really enjoyable one, but ONLY if you take it as a separate game, with no high expectations that came from the previous two. Really, it would be better, if it only didn't have the name Gothic attached to it.
What the fuck are you smoking? It's still be an unfinished buggy piece of shit with terrible questing and shitty combat. Literally the only people defending this turd of a game are people who played it when they were like 12 years old and loved it because they didn't know what a good game is. Take off your fucking nostalgia goggles.
If you load shit tone of community made patches and mods Gothic 3 is descent, even awesome in some cases. But... that which shall not be named, coz I dont wanna throw up on my keyboard typing it, dude... what which came after... even the patches and mods cant fix THAT!
Im interested What durmin said about the risen Series and Elex👍
Risen 1, it's okay, and it feels like a second attempt to make G3.
Risen 2 and 3, not really good still had fun
Elex, Best since G2, some of the quests writing and design were pretty clever gave me that old camp feel in G1.
I actually had alot to say about Elex i should still have notes on it somewhere.
Unfortunately it feels like after gothic 3 PB decided to remake G2 untill the end of time, and that's the main thing, they feel like They're just trying to do G2 again.
Oh i also played Arcania.
It's a dumpsterfire, couldn't finish it
Durmin Paradox so you would make an elex review sometime or you Really have no Time for that?
Btw i have finished g1 a Week ago and i play g2 at the Moment i had played Elex a month ago and well its the Best since g2 even i still prefer g2👍 Never played arcania😲
I watched all of your Gothic Reviews up to now and i am hyped for one on "forsaken... PIECE OF SHIT".
It's sad that PBs Gothic-Series had to end this way... raped and killed by people that obviously had no idea, what gothic was about or should be. #TrineGames #JoWood #Spellbound
I wondered if you are planing to review Arcania and Risen 1 as well.
Cause if you are... that would be AWWWWWWWWWesome.
Your Videos are awesome and the fact that you are making them so fast makes them even more impressiv.
I want to hugg you
PB has the rights for Gothic back since a few years. I think they will do Gothic 5 after Elex.
I am not sure about that.
Björn Pankratz sad that, he and his team want to build this new ip up and dont like the idea of going back to Gothic and Myrtana... and to be honest...
I would not want them to got back to it either.
The IP was raped by other developers and Jowood and the World Myrtana is not that interessting.
And they would have to take Arcania in to account when they would want to continue the Story... but that would be hard and i guess the payoff would be underwhelming.
The idea of a Gothic 1 remake with new visuals and a few more sidequest and stuff like that would seem mutch more reasonable to me...
And as long as they wont call it just "Gothic" without a suptitel or something that makes it obvious that its a remake
i would be happy to spend money on that...
Cyprien der Kotschmeister The only thing they said is that Gothic would be to much preassure right now and that they want to try something else after all These years of normal Fantasy.
Yes... i guess i interpreted a little to mutch into the Statements of PB ^^"
Sorry and thanks for correcting me.
But would you really like them to make an other Gothic-Game?
I am very sceptical towards that idea...
Cyprien der Kotschmeister Im quite sceptical as well but I think they are very experienced now and dont screw the whole game up.
I think this is simply a game that got released 3 years before it was ready.
and with upcoming version of Update Pack and Parallel Universe Patch, the game is closer to "ready" state than ever before
Actually that Paladin Sword is part of a quest, you need to retrieve it for a paladin. Also the thing is that there are a few very well hidden caves with treasures and there is some good loot. I also found it ridiculous on how good the orcs treated you, i mean they freaking treated you better then most human factions in Gothic 3 lol. I get that they respect strength but to some extent they felt more like the good guys then the good guys lol. As for the ending, i need to point back at my comment that i made during your part 2 of the Gothic II review, Xardas is bound to be an avatar, although he thought that by becoming an avatar he might brake free of the chains of fate it didn't happen, while he did get Beliar's power he didn't get the freedom of the Undead Dragon (he was not bound by fate as well), leaving your character to be the only one not bound by fate and the gods. That's why you can pick any side you want and learn from them all. That said the game is a mess, the main fun i had was with liberating the cities and walking around and exploring the beautiful world it had. One more video remains, and that one i couldn't even finish it or play it more then 1-2 hours... Hope its an hilarious video as well :p.
Awesome work!
I've been thinking for a while about playing Gothic 3 for the first time. I replayed the first two games and they're still great so I thought Gothic 3 can't be that bad with the community patch. You changed my mind, I guess it really is as bad as people say. Maybe I'll replay Risen 1 again... it was decent.
+mrbitbot You should really give G3 a try, it's not as bad as people say it is.
eventho this review is good your own experience can differ and you might still enjoy it.
I would've missed loads of gems if i decided not to play a game due to reviews.
+mrbitbot forget about this review, play the game, then form your own opinion. thats what i had to do, because reviews like this can really ruin your game experience.
bro its not that bad, its still better than most other rpg's. trust, I had more fun playing this than I did skyrim. The combat is super fun if you dont exploit. like, really fun.
Let's hope Elex will be better.
and since, he was never seen again...
You should do more reviews. Tons of subscribers guaranteed!
what do you mean you have to open all the chests? isnt like you have to open the right one if the loot is predetermined?
That was a very lucid analysis. And summarizes why I dislike, in general, sandbox games. Also, I have the impression the game "failed" already in the planning phase with the setting and the plot theme of chaos-order- balance (for that part, the gods have been changed every game, starting in gothic 1 with plain zoroastrianism).
I still like the game, and survived the bugfest before the patches. There are enjoyable things; the demigod state at high level, the exploration, the different climates and cultures -barely exposed-. From which, I liked Nordmar the most. It had kind of a gothic 1 feel.
I always imagined Gothic 3 would start with your typical sinking before arriving in Myrtana (a part of it, not the whole continent) -so the hero conveniently starts weak again- by some strange forces related to Xardas, and the settlements would be hideouts of loyalists, convicts and new camp-like guys, and maybe some crazy faction.
Something that killed me about "destroying the artifacts." WTF about these: The Eye of Innos. The Claw of Beliar. Uriziel. The ancient Ore Armor that kept you alive in the temple of the Sleeper. The consecrated sword of Innos. The Fire Chalices... ame I missing some? Are those NOT god artifacts??
OH No! No, No, No, NO! Forsaken Gods! Why did you have to remind of of that awful game. May all the Gods be with you on that one. Jokes aside, i really did forget about that game. I dont know what your plans are when you finish the Gothic series but you could take a look at the "Star Wars - Knights of the old Republic" games.
Dude are you alive
it's funny how they translated "Assassinen" with "Hashishin" instead of "Assassins"
What can i say? Although i can relate to most of the Things said in the Video, i still had great fun with Gothic 3. Maybe it was because i didnt exploit the weaknesses in the Combat, or actually roleplayed as a faction, didnt really notice Bugs etc. ? In the end i still seemed to enjoy the normal quests and Gameplay although both are supposed to be repetititive. Its weird, i know.
5:10 bless you
It's incredible how much money I threw at this game as a young child... I actually never finished it for the mess it created with my pc and the boring combat, only tried to get the ending of Adanos using godmode lol
Yeah, me too. I was 20 years old when it came out. I had crappy computer that I played gothic 1 and 2 on but knew wouldn't be able to play part 3. So I got a better job, saved up 1000 dollars, bought a new computer and then on Gothic 3's release day I got the game. I loved 1 and 2 and never played anything as immersive as those games. I loved the story too and couldn't wait to see how the series would conclude. To say I was disappointed with what I got is an understatement. I didn't understand how a series with so much substance could have such a soulless and uninspired game in it. It almost felt like Gothic 3 was made by a different developer. It was really sad
Is there any lore connection in this game??? I really enjoyed oblivion cuz funny side quests but Im trying this game for the 3rd and prob last time, to get in it.
i learned to love the grind. its a bit like roleplaying when walking through the world. you have to make up your own story for most of the game.
+Robert F I agree 100% with you on that.
If you make up a little story on you own and use the (for the most part) beatuiful landscape of Myrtana
and ignore the lame fighting you can have a blast playing G3... if patch of course
This Game of Thrones references seems kind of dated........... : )
Love this channel. :)
I love your stuff!
Vatras is white in Gothic 3 ?
Did you notice that you actually dont know where Xardas tower is for a HUUGE time and then I fucking looked at the case of the CD and theres a map similar to the world map ingame except that there are some special marks
Theres Xardas tower at the map for example o.o
So will you make a Gothic 4 Video? :)
Forsaken Gods next, plz :3
If you want that Gothic 1-2 feel try Content mod...it enchances the gothic feel but does nothing to combat system and adds little quests, new items and I cant even imagine G3 without it, and also you can download new textures for orcs and beasts that look like from g1-2 so for me as a nostalgia player of gothic series I am glad just for that atmosphere :)...but still Gothic 2 NotR rocks! :)
Don't tell anyone you've talked to me, especially not any mage!
plz come back :( part 2
Great review, as always. Though I think that reviewing Arcania and Forsaken Gods is pointless, because these games are obviously shitty. I would rather see your thoughts about Risen 1, which I consider was almost as enjoyable as Gothic 1 and 2.
Holy Innos... This is so sad...
10:52 If I remember correctly, there was this one talking Ork in Gothic I, who told you about the Orks of the main land (Myrtana). He mentioned that they were much more civilized than the Orks of the island Khorinis. I think he even said that they had a language and could speak.
I agree that it's strange to have the Orks be like animals in the first two games, and then make them into humanoids in the third. But the devs foreshadowed this transition in the first game... So you can't really brush that off as an inconsistency...
That orc in G1 and 2 never mentions anything like that.
What a tragic ending to an amazing IP. I played 1&2 and loved them so much(after reconfiguring the ini file ofcourse) that I bring them up to this day when talking about RPGs or someone looking for something like Elder Scrolls: Morrowind. I never played Gothic 3 Idk why probably from reading a review. Is it worth playing at all? Does it retain anything that made the first 2 great
Great review! I remember thinking that this is pretty much like an mmorpg too ... without the m or o-bits. Pretty disappointing ending to a franchise that started so well. But yeah you can always go much much lower ... 19:27
There was Arcania in his shelf Oo
Soundtrack to G1 was played by band In Extremo. Check your facts ;__;
One song was by In Extremo
Hope no one tells Durmin that there is a Gothic 4...... Arcania
Durmin what happened to your other videos? Will they ever be restored?
1:28 had me laughing hard xD
so basically gothic 3 is skyrim
+PIV That comparison is not fair .
Gothic 3 is average but nowhere near as bad as sky rim
+Valentin Pavlov gothic 3 is best
This man is idiot
nope
@@valentinpavlov2882 Average? Lmao you're so full of shit you fanboy. They are both awful but at least Skyrim is playable. Gothic 3 is literally a 3/10 if 1 is Ride to Hell Retribution and 10 is KotOR.
@@rks8820 You are so salty man holy shit. Want some more opinion with that salt?
13:29 Turn on the captions xd
penis the god of mankind.
so will there ever be any more videos?
i like to sell potatoes to drug dealers
if u want to boost up channel views u can make a review about mad max or mgs v.u are great at this.u need to have more subscribers.
+James Mercer Thanks, glad you like the content! I'm probably gonna cover Fallout 4 when it comes out. The last metal gear game i've played was MGS1, i don't consider myself to be enough of an expert of the franchise to be able to say anything interesting. Also Superbunnyhop and Matthew Mathosis already did such an amazing job in covering the saga that there really is no point in even trying. And on Mad Max, again i only watched the first movie quite a long time ago, i don't think i'd have much to say either. Thanks for the suggestions though!
Durmin Paradox
U NEED to play mgs v.even if u dont review it.TRUST ME.
ahahaha i noticed about harbors too
You laid about quest
Any expectations for ELEX?
+CESSKAR For what they have said in an interview with the RocketBeans I can't wait to see and play Elex. It sounds like Gothic 1 and 2 is now in the future where a fluid turns everything into evil but also makes everything stronger and that the player can also consume this fluid to strenghten but loosing mind power. It just sounds awesome. I hope it will turn out great again. Well this is my expectation.
4Astaroth Oh man, I hope you're right. I'm rather skeptical, for too long pb have talked about "going back to their roots"...
I always say, if you can't make your core game mechanics work. Then don't do the f*cking game in the first place!
1. Game Mechanics 2. World/Level Design, and never the other way around! Or you get a Gothic 3.
Every simpleton can do static Levels and door triggers. But animations and especially complicated stuff like a combat system. Need to be done by people who now what they are doing. And they have to be prioritized.
This may change by puzzle heavy games like Portal, with level morphing. But a Portal doesn't have much interaction, aside from shooting two colored bubbles and listening to sweet talking sentry bots.
Gothic series, Rune, Blade of Darkness etc. what do you do all the time? You fight. Does the world change multiple times, or morphs constantly? No. You open simple doors with simple triggers.
Focus on what matters most. And that is what the player is doing all the damn time. Developers Fix & get Yo'$hit together!!!
Durmin Paradox has a talent of oration and persuasion. I am now convinced that Gothic 3 was fucking shit, even though I do remember enjoying it immensely in it's fully patched up content modded state. However, If Gothic 3 is a vast souless collection of fetch and kill quests, then what does that make Skyrim, which DP has stated that he enjoyed? At least with Gothic 3, the action actually takes place 'on the land', as opposed to 90% of it being restricted to cordoned off 'dungeons'. So if Gothic 3 is shit, why then is Skyrim great?
+MatDerKater skyrim is shit it got so repetetive i never even finished it
This is the biggest dissapointment of my life, I was hyped for it for 3 years! and bought it on day one... worse purchase I ever made.
I seriously don't get you people. Gothic 3 isnt that different from Gothic 2. And its not like Gothic 2 was bug free.
@@user-or8ql3fe5v gothic 3 didnt keep up the legacy by gothic 1 and 2...
The first two were designed and written really well..and part 2 took off perfect where part 1 ended..how you make your way to korinis and how you get immersed by too powerful enemies, good dialogues etc..
Gothic 3 did a shit job with this..
@@user-or8ql3fe5v and the combat system is boring as fuck...
No no no...not the Forsaken Gods no...Gothic 3 was a falling train yeah that's true, but Forsaken Gods...not even a game, not even a wreck of a train...( i don't know how a human creature can possibly make such idiocy...i really don't know...)
+Faruk Hajrulahovic that's why we want durmin to make fun of it:DDD