Funny enough, both SW prequels and Gothic 3 were hated way more than they deserved, were very underrated, and in comparison to next instalments in the series, they were really fucking good.
You know, the funny thing is, I can't really argue with any of the points you made in this video (and the second part). And yet I still find myself returning to Gothic 3 more often than to the other two Gothics. Why? Hard to tell. Maybe my preferences are weird, maybe I just like the idea of leading a revolution against the two oppressive regimes in the G3 world, I dunno. There's something about patched G3 that just makes it fun to play for me despite its flaws.
Time Bubble is still my favorite magic spell in an action RPG to date! And running the game with A.B. actually makes it, hailstorm and fire rain genuinely useful, especially for liberating cities. Enemies can shoot arrows at you through the time bubble, and you can actually pick them up and place them in your inventory while they're travelling towards you. I dunno, why I've continued coming back to G3 year after year more than any other PB game is because of its world's rigorous self-sufficiency. I think one of the community patches added in certain respawns, but the vanilla game had no respawns: you could literally wipe out every single living creature in the entire world, and still be able to "win" the game (well, you actually might be fucked if you killed xardas, I can't remember now). As bad as the combat, as bad as the writing, as generic as the quest design, as Americanized as the art design, as unbalanced as the game is... it doesn't matter, because it's a world that simultaneously seems 'living' and antonymous, but is also completely shaped and directed by the player. And that's something that absolutely no other game has ever been able to match. Besides LotR, btw, PB repeatedly referenced Dan Brown as a "major influence" for the game, because, Da Vinci Code, I'm guessing. In fact, they repeatedly tried to play down the "high fantasy" elements in the month's leading up to the game's release, including a much-publicized picture of the "Monster" (dinosaur).
Even though I started this game like 10 times in the last 15 years, I never made it to the ice area, always got bored of the game in the desert. Myrtana was always fun, but after that it got increasingly boring for me and never was able to finish the game.
LMAO the first 13 seconds are so true. Now for the runes, actually that part makes sense, it wasn't so much a problem for the fire mages, that's true, but remember that the fire mages are basically an order of priests and monks representing Inos and dedicating themselves to the study of magic and faith, they are limited in numbers, they are not the fighting strength of the Kingdom. The paladins form the strongest part of the army and are the main asset and strength of the Kingdom, and the Paladins use rune magic as well, and unlike the fire mages they are limited to it. That's why disabling the rune magic was such a big deal.
What can say? Gothic III, with the 1.75 CP and 2.4 CM, I really did think was a fucking awesome game. I really mean that. Not once did I find that I was merely pretending to like it, as I did with Skyrim, like because the whole world was telling me it was awesome, only for the penny to finally drop and for to realise it (Skyrim) bored me shitless....I really did enjoy Gothic 3, a lot. Durmin, you talk about how shit the plot is in G3, but surely you must have gotten some amusement from the whole balance of power across the three lands depending upon what choices the Nameless Hero makes and ultimately which god he sides with? I never knew about the Halbard glitch.....and don't really play magician in RPGs.........and I used to sit pecking at small hits of DMT when I played this through.....???
The patches can't fix the terrible story, non-sensical parts of the setting (orcs treating you better than inmates from G1, magic usable without runes at level 1, etc), terrible character models, terrible quests, lack of interesting places to find and explore. It's an enjoyable game, but compared to G1 and G2 it's horrible.
Yeah, though if you speak german there is the Questpaket, in which the community fleshed out the story a bit, sadly they could only do the voice acting on their own, so the voice acting is not up to standards, but well it's free and done by amateurs. g3csp.de/en/ It's been in the works for a long time, but then, the challenge they face is an epic one!
In recent years, performance and frametime consistency can be improved in Gothic 3 using DXVK (DirectX to Vulkan wrapper). Vast improvement to the CPU bound nature of the game and better GPU usage all throughout.
dude. you're a genius. i love your series! and i agree on everything about gothic 3. although i think the games (1 and 2 of course) have a bit more flair if you play them in german.
Gothic III is passable only with the community patch, it's a mixed bag, and it pales in comparison to Gothic I and Gothic II. I only played it extensively because of the fans who fixed a gazillion of bugs and mechanics and because of the franchise. I think its main merit - huge open world - is also its downfall, because it's a problem of quantity over quality. I've had to kill literally around a thousand creatures of any kind in this game by the time I reached the end, it honestly felt a lot like one of those shallow MMORPGs in which you grind mobs for the sake of it. Instead of a focused and enjoyable narrative you are wandering around this vast soulless world like some FedEx courier. But what really kills it for me is the horrendous combat. As a melee/archer after a hundred hours of gameplay I can beat Ishtar, the capital of Hashishin, but have trouble with wolves ... somehow they made the attack animations of certain beasts hit like a truck and bypass all armour ... I don't get it, and when even the community patch can't fix the game engine ... then I never will, I guess. Gothic III, in the end, whet my appetite for another run through Gothic I and II (and Risen).
no, fans just as always got stuck in a cave wanting nothing more of the same, and couldn t handle new things, neither had patience to support the devs to get the new things right. gothic 3 is a masterpiece
@@jh5kl new things, like bugs and disjointed unimmersive world? dull combat with no skill? and it wasnt fans who forced them to release gothic 3 early.. the obsession of developers(not just pb) with open world, without having a clear idea how to achieve it are who got stuck in a cave. Gothic fans were sitting on cloud nine, wanting Gothic 3 to live up to the first two with excitement while bringing in new things too. Archolos did it instead
While I did notice there were many glitches, I found it extremely fun to exploit the ball sacks out of it. However I did not notice half the bugs you pointed out, and it is quite surprising how such a broken game can be so super fun.
I was dreading this video. I haven't played Gothic 3 yet, and don't want to get spoiled, so I stopped at 5.50. I guess I shouldn't put off playing Gothic 3 until the end of time anymore.
I never had a problem with the idea that king Rhobar II would use a barrier to wall himself off in the capital city. It's just the same spell with a reversed effect, after all. If, in the original game, mages used magic from the outside to wall the inmates in, then why not try to use magic from the inside to wall orcs out? Of course, how that was supposed to work if rune magic no longer exists I've no idea...
Durmin, have you tried the Update Pack for the community patch? I'm a hopeless Gothic 3 fanboy so my words will mean little, but it really has improved the game tremendously. It pretty much fixes all of the bugs you mentioned, and further changes the Alt A.I. combat.
I just discovered you today. Absolutely love your style :D ONE correction though - I am quite sure that the fact that you have no pickup animation when sneaking is intentional :) And don't be too hard on the community patch team - ("even patched") - as you said yourself, they are from the community, and not paid, contrary to the initial developers ;) Oh btw I also had that glitch in Vangard. A BUNCH of people were standing under the castle, on what basically is the bottom of the sphere that is the magic barrier. I found it when I lost Rhobar and teleported to him. As I did that, everyone died from the magic barrier damage and they blamed me xD Very much looking forward to part 2!! Will you do a video about Arcania, too?
+CESSKAR Any idea what happened? I was watching this review one day, ran out of time, went back to it the next day and all the videos were gone. Talk about bad luck. :P
Hey, I just happened to run into your gothic reviews today and I really liked what I saw. I mostly agree with the points you made and share your views of the gothic I , II and III. On top of that I really like the mr plinkett style review, and after seeing ''what's wrong with your face'' joke I was certain that's where you got your inspiration from. I'm interested if you will be putting you more content, for example Risen reviews. Hope for a timely response, thanks!
With the release of Gothic 3 the golden ages of gaming came to a crushing end. After that, 80% of the games released were either a unfinished mess or soulless, targetgroup marketed corporation dickcheese.
This video is great I just subbed to you. You made me laugh in the first 2 minutes. I do think you should of kept it in one video shorter than 30 minutes. Just to keep it super dense with the good stuff. Some of the jokes were a little repetitive :) Anyway good video overall!
Storywise rune magic just kinda made "real magic" avalaiable to "normal people" you still had to learn how to use them but by lore only very very few people can actually learn real magic and if you look at the robes the ingame mages are wearing it shows that they all have been high mages so they really knew magic and they are studiying hard to get their powers back just RUNE magic doesnt work no more so paladins cant use any magic anymore and most mages neither. Also there is a mod that fixes this so only few mages still can use magic. And since runes just used real magic and tapped into their energy, the spells are the same cause Runes ripped of the real magic in the first place.
The problem of Gothic 3 was not only the bugs and glitches, it was also the lack of atmosphere and story. The game was way too bright and colorful, the soundtrack way too big and epic. The game felt more like an Elder Scrolls than a Gothic.
That was a very good review. It sums up my thoughts on the game. By the way, you guys might be interested in a mod (on process for a long time now) called community story project. Unfortunately there is no release date yet.
My old computer had 512MB ram and a 1.1Ghz processor. With the immense lag and rampant glitches it was just unplayable. I must admit that when I played it recently I thoroughly enjoyed the game. Once you accept that it's different to the previous two games you can begin to enjoy it for what it is.
Originaly game intended to be diferent, but money and time was changing factor. ¨Shame that creators will not go back and bring Gothic 3 with all glory as was intended and story. But i have to say, Gothic 3 is not that bad and not best. Gothic 3 had nice graphics at time when it was released and beutiful world
as a kid i never played gothic 1 or 2 only 3 and tbh i really loved it! Sure it was a buggy mess and without commnity patch unplayable but the creativity of piranha bytes still kinda shined through. Its a great game if you love their gamedesign but dont expect to finish it in any way for me it always glitched at some random quest and i couldnt progress further
I had a solid gaming PC when this game was released... I remember installing it and it instantly TANKED my rig into oblivion, hoooooolyyyy shieeeeet! It felt like game stole my RAM, locked it in the dungeon and grew a fancy Fritzl mustache to start a long and warm relation in this grim dark fantasy world... no pun intended.
Sad cuz gothic 1&2 were some if the finest rpgs ever. I never even tried 3 got bad reviews. Do people still have realistic day&night cycles and animals ecosystems?
gothic is technically speaking, far superior to the previous games, and even to other games in the genre, though do notice i m saying technically. it s just that the devs made different things to the previous games, and that combined with the bugs etc, the community, unfairly turned its back to the game
Never going to happen, the game is fundamentally bad in its core. No mod, or patch can save Gothic 3. Even with the latest patches and mods in 2023, the game is horrendous compared to the first two games and Archolos. The best thing they can do, is just remake the whole game in the Gothic 2 engine, similar to what Archolos did, and tell an original story that is a continuation of the events of Gothic 2, featuring the nameless hero and the rest of the well-known characters.
@@Soulfly415 Yup, but that's probably never gonna happen either. That's the sad truth, no matter what some people them themselves. Gothic 3 problem was never really bugs or that it was unfinished - the problem was the horribly bad concept, horribly bad world presentation, horribly bad writing (if you can even call that writing), nonexistent plot, lack of consistency with previous games. In Gothic 2 PB did a fantasic job with the Mine Valley - a hostile, dangerous enviroment, destroyed by war, burned down by dragons, where everyrhing wants to kill you, there's a feel of overall doom awaiting to happen, one bastion of humanity still defending itself, and as the game progressses the people outside the castle get killed, either by animals or by war efforts. This is how the whole Myrthana should feel like in Gothic 3. Now that I think of it, if the Mine Valley happened in Gothic 3, the orcs surrounding the castle would probably offer you hot soup and in the background there'd be Vista Point playing. Imagine the horror.
The game is not that bad BUT only if you have enough patches and mods. There are lovers of the game who are still modding the game as you can see by the community story project.
As for this almost idyllic, peceful Myrthana - you'd think Germans of all peopole would know how to make a dangerous warzone occupied by hostile enemy forces and how it sucks for the occupied civillian population. Apparently the PB guys didn't know that.
Whoever likes this game, even with CP obviously never played first two. I would rather have Gothic 3 with same engine, graphics, combat system...(and everything) like the first two games, only with different story than this unfinished abortion of a game...But anyways PB is still my favourite game developer despite of bad circumstances and i hope that Elex will shine in their former glory.
+Faruk Hajrulahovic this here is a prime example of fanboy-ism (which makes me sad being a hardcore fan), it's very likely that people that have played G1 and G2 still liked G3 after that, it's called having a different taste, if everyone had the same taste things would be extremely dull.
+L2Nuku i think g3 on the old engine would be really cool, but the thing is they just fked a bit too much things up with the new engine so you lose a bit of the gothic fell if u know wat i mean
Uldis Gailis i do understand it somewhat, i personally like both engines for different reasons, but i never got the idea that the difference in engines was where the hate came from but more due the story and setting.
***** well the learning curve kinda dissapears and equipment upgrades compared to skill upgrades are quite silly, I mean the game loses its charm with the kinda reduced difficulty i think tho there are plenty of hard moments
A major issue I had with Gothic 3, was the overall look of the game. 2006 technology aside and even knowing that reusing that old G1 and 2 engine wouldn't work, I think Gothic 3 look fucking awful from a stylistic standpoint. I hate every single Design choice PB made, from the animals, to the armors, to the cities and most importantly the orcs. Everything in this game would look awful even in an art-book.
For Gothic 3 Piranha should've just stuck to Gothic 2 artstyle and structure. Minimize empty, open fields, maximize clever design with caves, secrets 'n shit. The game world definitely should've been smaller. And I would've been okay with it not being seamless. If you had to talk to someone to travel to the desert or some shit like that, I would not have any objections. Let's say Act 1 happens in Myrtana, Act 2 happens in Varrant, in Act 3 you go back to Myrtana and the final Act happens in the harsh, snowy Nordmar.
You know, I don't think I've seen this complaint before but I completely agree with you. The contrast with Gothic 2, which I just finished once again, is abysmal.
Apart from the bugs from lack of time I'm actually finding out (from the reviewers descriptions of how mechanics work) that he never actual learnt how to play the game. I defiantly not saying the game is not broken (I played the first release OOF~ what a mess ) But I played every possible class combination and can say for a fact that they all work (if you take the time to learn how to fight with them).
@@emilychb6621 he had an enemy cornered, gothic 3 combat is brutal, a simple wolf can kill you even if your character is leveled up, you won t win by simply spamming. plus, did you saw that he actually installed and mentioned the community patch that changes combat and other things?
The ship shoild've been destroyed in a storm and you should've been washed ashore that way it would've also made sense if you were only washed ashore with your core group of friends
You clearly seem to udnerstand why so many gamers love the Gothic, mostly for it's gameplay and replayability ^^ Though You don't know shit about the story, so plz don't make comments about it. For example, the barrier was NOT supposed to work as a one-way door - on top of the fact that there are many kinds of magical barriers in Gothic, it is celarly stated in all of the games that the one in Khorinis was affected (read: screwed) by the Sleeper's influence. Take a look at the Gothic Wikia page.
The Gothic Wikia is possibly the worst source for information, as it's very incomplete and has a ton of fan theories and speculations rather than actual facts. The barrier in Gothic 1 was supposed to be a one-way door. Otherwise, the convicts would be able to escape and it would defeat the point of setting up a magic barrier in the first place. What was influenced by the Sleeper was how big the barrier ended up being, as it wasn't supposed to trap the mages inside. The barrier over Vengard, on the other hand, was never explained. It's just shown and said that they put it up to keep the rest of the orc army from storming the city, but it's never explained why it works differently from the one over the Valley of Mines. Leaving stuff like this up to fan speculation is poor writing (which, like the rest of the story, was affected by the deadline from JoWood).
You're right about the barrier in Khorinis (and the fact that Sleeper affected only it's size), tho I was talking about them generally (the barrier spell was supposed to be a wall; the one in Khorinis was... special edition ^^). Though I cannot agree with the statement that Gothic wikia is bad source of information about Gothic series - it covers almost everything from Gothic comic up to the damned Arcania... The thing is that we might be talking about different Wikias, cause of different languages o.0
I'm talking about the two English ones, which don't even have a page about either of the barriers, now that I checked. Can't really check any other languages for lore when my first language is English, so I can't speak for other wikis.
Believe it or not. Gothic 3 was one of my "favorite" parts of the gothic series. I don't know how, but I just loved it and really enjoyed it. The graphics, story, gameplay, atmosphere etc. the game has flaws no doubt about it, but I still enjoyed it. But after watching your video, my point of view about gothic 3 was obliterated, when I found out how awesome the game it would be, if it would be on the same level as gothic 1 & 2. Also you mentioned that the PB lost the rights about gothic series. This is true, but they got it back, when Jowood collapsed after the release of Gothic 4, which was shit, but PB don't have the interest to continue the series, because, they don't feel comfortable with it anymore. Unfortunately, PB could just go and retire, because after risen 1, they were releasing a bunch of shit and I'm really sad, that such a good company fell like that. The gothic will never be the same again. Currently, they are making a new game Elex, a sci-fi RPG, let's wait and see, if it will be any good :D
This is my 3rd attempt to play this game and its 2016. And with twice or triple the spec pc of that time i can play it at 30fps -not maxed. How can someone even play it at that time with this engine? After this I ll play oblivion once more for 5th time.
15:10 the stuff with the shield... It's not really a problem of the game but more of inaccurate depiction of "sword and board" in medieval/fantasy fiction in general. I have seen soo many movies and shows where the shield is essentially used as nothing but a counterweight.
Brother please help me out !! You know that in Geldern take the paladin helmet .. I get in there, steal all of that and not show my paladin helmet !! Easy Game !! Should Medium game to show me ?? Or something from setting .. Tell me what to do please
I swear Gothic 3 is one of the best RPGs to ever exist (in it's current patched version) It's like Skyrim but several years before, with some parts being better, like the feeling of reward from progressing (skyrim can be won in less than 2 hours). Sure there are flaws like not taking damage while using inventory, but if you aren't extremely pessimistic they honestly don't matter at all.
I think the conclusion is that Gothic 3 is a terrible piece of garbage, but it is just so cute and endearing - so it is terrible in a sort of good way. Also, I look forward to more content. You're the Mr. Plinkett of vidyeo gaymes
Re: pirates taking the boat
Don't underestimate Greg, man. Greg is hardcore.
That's my headcanon. Greg must be hella pissed at the hero for stealing all his treasures.
My head cannon is: Zorro from One Piece got lost and cut their ship in half.
It's probably the best thing that happened to us, it doesn't seem that anyone has taken an effort to create the ship model in the game.
'gothic 3 in a nutshell' - man those first few seconds is the faster and most accurate (best) review I have ever seen.
Durmin where are you? I need more of your videos man :c
Alternate opening:
"Gothic 3 is the most dissappointing thing since my son..."
I see you're a man of culture as well.
Funny enough, both SW prequels and Gothic 3 were hated way more than they deserved, were very underrated, and in comparison to next instalments in the series, they were really fucking good.
@@MikhailPashkovski Gothic 4 being aa total trash doesn't change that Gothic 3 is shitty :P
You know, the funny thing is, I can't really argue with any of the points you made in this video (and the second part). And yet I still find myself returning to Gothic 3 more often than to the other two Gothics. Why? Hard to tell. Maybe my preferences are weird, maybe I just like the idea of leading a revolution against the two oppressive regimes in the G3 world, I dunno. There's something about patched G3 that just makes it fun to play for me despite its flaws.
Ahreta Memories maybe?
"Where is the Guru?"
I laughed so hard at Milten's face XD
You killed me with the "i was one of them part" man. Had to pause and replay it!
Time Bubble is still my favorite magic spell in an action RPG to date! And running the game with A.B. actually makes it, hailstorm and fire rain genuinely useful, especially for liberating cities. Enemies can shoot arrows at you through the time bubble, and you can actually pick them up and place them in your inventory while they're travelling towards you.
I dunno, why I've continued coming back to G3 year after year more than any other PB game is because of its world's rigorous self-sufficiency. I think one of the community patches added in certain respawns, but the vanilla game had no respawns: you could literally wipe out every single living creature in the entire world, and still be able to "win" the game (well, you actually might be fucked if you killed xardas, I can't remember now). As bad as the combat, as bad as the writing, as generic as the quest design, as Americanized as the art design, as unbalanced as the game is... it doesn't matter, because it's a world that simultaneously seems 'living' and antonymous, but is also completely shaped and directed by the player. And that's something that absolutely no other game has ever been able to match.
Besides LotR, btw, PB repeatedly referenced Dan Brown as a "major influence" for the game, because, Da Vinci Code, I'm guessing. In fact, they repeatedly tried to play down the "high fantasy" elements in the month's leading up to the game's release, including a much-publicized picture of the "Monster" (dinosaur).
Oh thank god these are back, these are so well done I was worried for a moment there that they had been taken off UA-cam forever!
Too early to christmas, too late for birth day...
WHAT IS GOIN ON!?
well i finished gothic1 and gothic 2 at least 15 times each but i coundent be bothered to finish gothic 3 lol
Gothic 3 is the easiest to finish
@@DarkPeter Yet the hardest bc you need to force yourself to push a bit further ;P
Even though I started this game like 10 times in the last 15 years, I never made it to the ice area, always got bored of the game in the desert. Myrtana was always fun, but after that it got increasingly boring for me and never was able to finish the game.
will you make Risen reviews too? you got me hooked
Yes please.
Legends tell Durmin will rerurn in the year 2023 when humanity needs him most.
Yes daddy
LMAO the first 13 seconds are so true. Now for the runes, actually that part makes sense, it wasn't so much a problem for the fire mages, that's true, but remember that the fire mages are basically an order of priests and monks representing Inos and dedicating themselves to the study of magic and faith, they are limited in numbers, they are not the fighting strength of the Kingdom. The paladins form the strongest part of the army and are the main asset and strength of the Kingdom, and the Paladins use rune magic as well, and unlike the fire mages they are limited to it. That's why disabling the rune magic was such a big deal.
All this game is missing is an equivalent of the "What's a paladin?" scene.
What's the Avatar of Innos?
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAACE?!?!?!?1
Mr. Plinkett footprints all over this video.
What can say? Gothic III, with the 1.75 CP and 2.4 CM, I really did think was a fucking awesome game. I really mean that. Not once did I find that I was merely pretending to like it, as I did with Skyrim, like because the whole world was telling me it was awesome, only for the penny to finally drop and for to realise it (Skyrim) bored me shitless....I really did enjoy Gothic 3, a lot. Durmin, you talk about how shit the plot is in G3, but surely you must have gotten some amusement from the whole balance of power across the three lands depending upon what choices the Nameless Hero makes and ultimately which god he sides with?
I never knew about the Halbard glitch.....and don't really play magician in RPGs.........and I used to sit pecking at small hits of DMT when I played this through.....???
The patches can't fix the terrible story, non-sensical parts of the setting (orcs treating you better than inmates from G1, magic usable without runes at level 1, etc), terrible character models, terrible quests, lack of interesting places to find and explore. It's an enjoyable game, but compared to G1 and G2 it's horrible.
Yeah, though if you speak german there is the Questpaket, in which the community fleshed out the story a bit, sadly they could only do the voice acting on their own, so the voice acting is not up to standards, but well it's free and done by amateurs.
g3csp.de/en/
It's been in the works for a long time, but then, the challenge they face is an epic one!
In recent years, performance and frametime consistency can be improved in Gothic 3 using DXVK (DirectX to Vulkan wrapper). Vast improvement to the CPU bound nature of the game and better GPU usage all throughout.
Seriously, that "what happened" kills me every time.
I still love this game.
Dude ur videos are really good, hope u will reach 100.000 subscribers. Greetings
The game looks so ugly. The graphics didn't age well at all, while Gothic & Gothic II still have a nostalgic look to them.
agreed.
If they would work on the game like 1 year more :/
+Lorster Jowood's fault giving us this rushed product, if they just had given PB one more year... :'(
+L2Nuku They would've go bankrupt if they didn't rush the release.
+L2Nuku Ultimately they did go bankrupt anyways, but still... xD
dude. you're a genius. i love your series! and i agree on everything about gothic 3.
although i think the games (1 and 2 of course) have a bit more flair if you play them in german.
Gothic III is passable only with the community patch, it's a mixed bag, and it pales in comparison to Gothic I and Gothic II. I only played it extensively because of the fans who fixed a gazillion of bugs and mechanics and because of the franchise. I think its main merit - huge open world - is also its downfall, because it's a problem of quantity over quality. I've had to kill literally around a thousand creatures of any kind in this game by the time I reached the end, it honestly felt a lot like one of those shallow MMORPGs in which you grind mobs for the sake of it. Instead of a focused and enjoyable narrative you are wandering around this vast soulless world like some FedEx courier.
But what really kills it for me is the horrendous combat. As a melee/archer after a hundred hours of gameplay I can beat Ishtar, the capital of Hashishin, but have trouble with wolves ... somehow they made the attack animations of certain beasts hit like a truck and bypass all armour ... I don't get it, and when even the community patch can't fix the game engine ... then I never will, I guess. Gothic III, in the end, whet my appetite for another run through Gothic I and II (and Risen).
no, fans just as always got stuck in a cave wanting nothing more of the same, and couldn t handle new things, neither had patience to support the devs to get the new things right. gothic 3 is a masterpiece
@@jh5kl new things, like bugs and disjointed unimmersive world? dull combat with no skill? and it wasnt fans who forced them to release gothic 3 early.. the obsession of developers(not just pb) with open world, without having a clear idea how to achieve it are who got stuck in a cave. Gothic fans were sitting on cloud nine, wanting Gothic 3 to live up to the first two with excitement while bringing in new things too. Archolos did it instead
While I did notice there were many glitches, I found it extremely fun to exploit the ball sacks out of it. However I did not notice half the bugs you pointed out, and it is quite surprising how such a broken game can be so super fun.
I was dreading this video. I haven't played Gothic 3 yet, and don't want to get spoiled, so I stopped at 5.50. I guess I shouldn't put off playing Gothic 3 until the end of time anymore.
its a great game, check the video, gothic 3 why its my favorite game, and other similar videos
Hmmm those butter spreading motions, I am hungry for some toast.
That fucking voice at the end will be the bane of me.
I never had a problem with the idea that king Rhobar II would use a barrier to wall himself off in the capital city. It's just the same spell with a reversed effect, after all. If, in the original game, mages used magic from the outside to wall the inmates in, then why not try to use magic from the inside to wall orcs out?
Of course, how that was supposed to work if rune magic no longer exists I've no idea...
Mousazz they used magic ore to cast the barrier spell. You see it in the cutscene
Durmin, have you tried the Update Pack for the community patch? I'm a hopeless Gothic 3 fanboy so my words will mean little, but it really has improved the game tremendously. It pretty much fixes all of the bugs you mentioned, and further changes the Alt A.I. combat.
INCLUDING FIXING MILTON'S FACE.
There's also a new dodge ability added in.
he lives off criticizing don't worry bout it, Gothic3 is still awesome
lmao what are you guys smoking? G3 is still trash with the community patch.
@@humudu No it isn't. It is a below average RPG and nothing like the originals
That fucking trainwreck....XD lmao best intro I seen in a while.
I still love gothic 3 and i feel like with some more mods in the future it Will be the perfect sequel.
Is it just me, or does the nameless hero look a bit too much Benjamin Briggs from Limbo of the Lost? That would explain much...
Love the Tomba music 🎶
One thing : Barrier in the walley of mines was different than this one becouse, you do not have sleeper in capital. Or ... do you?
Funny review, haha!
Ye literally
I just discovered you today. Absolutely love your style :D
ONE correction though - I am quite sure that the fact that you have no pickup animation when sneaking is intentional :)
And don't be too hard on the community patch team - ("even patched") - as you said yourself, they are from the community, and not paid, contrary to the initial developers ;)
Oh btw I also had that glitch in Vangard. A BUNCH of people were standing under the castle, on what basically is the bottom of the sphere that is the magic barrier. I found it when I lost Rhobar and teleported to him. As I did that, everyone died from the magic barrier damage and they blamed me xD
Very much looking forward to part 2!!
Will you do a video about Arcania, too?
Pls come back. I love your videos
Click here for part 2 ;_;
Game should be published 1 year after oblivion.
great to see your videos back. you're great man ;)
+CESSKAR
Any idea what happened? I was watching this review one day, ran out of time, went back to it the next day and all the videos were gone. Talk about bad luck. :P
ThePreciseClimber No idea...
Hey, I just happened to run into your gothic reviews today and I really liked what I saw. I mostly agree with the points you made and share your views of the gothic I , II and III.
On top of that I really like the mr plinkett style review, and after seeing ''what's wrong with your face'' joke I was certain that's where you got your inspiration from.
I'm interested if you will be putting you more content, for example Risen reviews. Hope for a timely response, thanks!
What if I told you Durmin... There is a 4th gothic game... Arcania: gothic 4
lies, there's no 4th Gothic
***** look it up, Arcania: Gothic 4, it's even shone in the video
+Brutus Bongo lol, no there IS no Gothic 4 ;)
+Brutus Bongo If you call arcania a gothic game i can say ants are mushroom spiecies.
+Brutus Bongo And that is way worst than the third
With the release of Gothic 3 the golden ages of gaming came to a crushing end.
After that, 80% of the games released were either a unfinished mess or soulless, targetgroup marketed corporation dickcheese.
Dragon's Dogma was great.
This video is great I just subbed to you. You made me laugh in the first 2 minutes. I do think you should of kept it in one video shorter than 30 minutes. Just to keep it super dense with the good stuff. Some of the jokes were a little repetitive :) Anyway good video overall!
Storywise rune magic just kinda made "real magic" avalaiable to "normal people" you still had to learn how to use them but by lore only very very few people can actually learn real magic and if you look at the robes the ingame mages are wearing it shows that they all have been high mages so they really knew magic and they are studiying hard to get their powers back just RUNE magic doesnt work no more so paladins cant use any magic anymore and most mages neither. Also there is a mod that fixes this so only few mages still can use magic.
And since runes just used real magic and tapped into their energy, the spells are the same cause Runes ripped of the real magic in the first place.
Dave, please make another video, we are waiting for this 9 months already :(
The problem of Gothic 3 was not only the bugs and glitches, it was also the lack of atmosphere and story. The game was way too bright and colorful, the soundtrack way too big and epic. The game felt more like an Elder Scrolls than a Gothic.
The soundtrack, even operatic and 'too big and epic' is the only thing praiseworthy.
The thing that disturbed me most about Gothic 3 is that we can choose the difficulty
THAT barrier was no way out... doesnt mean other barrier cant be no way in
That was a very good review. It sums up my thoughts on the game.
By the way, you guys might be interested in a mod (on process for a long time now) called community story project. Unfortunately there is no release date yet.
jowood seems to have an odd habit of releasing in an unfinished manner, just look at chaser and chrome for a good example.
vashtanerada100 yeh
I will get backlash but I absolutely love this game it's my 2 most favourite game so yeah I don't think it's bad
Immediately liked after first 5 seconds. LOL!
My old computer had 512MB ram and a 1.1Ghz processor. With the immense lag and rampant glitches it was just unplayable. I must admit that when I played it recently I thoroughly enjoyed the game. Once you accept that it's different to the previous two games you can begin to enjoy it for what it is.
Originaly game intended to be diferent, but money and time was changing factor. ¨Shame that creators will not go back and bring Gothic 3 with all glory as was intended and story. But i have to say, Gothic 3 is not that bad and not best. Gothic 3 had nice graphics at time when it was released and beutiful world
What happend? The publisher Jowood had one foot in bankruptcy due to a gigantic clusterfuck with another game.
as a kid i never played gothic 1 or 2 only 3 and tbh i really loved it! Sure it was a buggy mess and without commnity patch unplayable but the creativity of piranha bytes still kinda shined through. Its a great game if you love their gamedesign but dont expect to finish it in any way for me it always glitched at some random quest and i couldnt progress further
3 seconds into the video and i was already laughing my ass off. This oughta be good.
The loading times are murder. And the same cave every time. Uggghhhh.
I had a solid gaming PC when this game was released... I remember installing it and it instantly TANKED my rig into oblivion, hoooooolyyyy shieeeeet! It felt like game stole my RAM, locked it in the dungeon and grew a fancy Fritzl mustache to start a long and warm relation in this grim dark fantasy world... no pun intended.
Sad cuz gothic 1&2 were some if the finest rpgs ever. I never even tried 3 got bad reviews. Do people still have realistic day&night cycles and animals ecosystems?
mushy
yes they have
gothic is technically speaking, far superior to the previous games, and even to other games in the genre, though do notice i m saying technically. it s just that the devs made different things to the previous games, and that combined with the bugs etc, the community, unfairly turned its back to the game
@@jh5kl graphically better doesn't mean much when its buggy as hell and has nothing else going for it. 1 & 2 are some of the best in the genre
Well, after Archolos, we are waiting for a Gothic 3 overhaul that will make the game how was supposed to be.
Never going to happen, the game is fundamentally bad in its core. No mod, or patch can save Gothic 3. Even with the latest patches and mods in 2023, the game is horrendous compared to the first two games and Archolos. The best thing they can do, is just remake the whole game in the Gothic 2 engine, similar to what Archolos did, and tell an original story that is a continuation of the events of Gothic 2, featuring the nameless hero and the rest of the well-known characters.
@@Soulfly415 Yup, but that's probably never gonna happen either. That's the sad truth, no matter what some people them themselves. Gothic 3 problem was never really bugs or that it was unfinished - the problem was the horribly bad concept, horribly bad world presentation, horribly bad writing (if you can even call that writing), nonexistent plot, lack of consistency with previous games.
In Gothic 2 PB did a fantasic job with the Mine Valley - a hostile, dangerous enviroment, destroyed by war, burned down by dragons, where everyrhing wants to kill you, there's a feel of overall doom awaiting to happen, one bastion of humanity still defending itself, and as the game progressses the people outside the castle get killed, either by animals or by war efforts.
This is how the whole Myrthana should feel like in Gothic 3.
Now that I think of it, if the Mine Valley happened in Gothic 3, the orcs surrounding the castle would probably offer you hot soup and in the background there'd be Vista Point playing. Imagine the horror.
i love this fucking game but it's fucking broken
IMHO first 2/3 of Gothic 3 is actually pretty damn good!
I was crying for like 20 minutes
This is awesome :D
Part 2! part 2!
5:00 Todd is so tiny you can barely see him on this photo.
The game is not that bad BUT only if you have enough patches and mods. There are lovers of the game who are still modding the game as you can see by the community story project.
I love Gothic 3 with comunity patch 1.75 and alternative balancing turned on.
Just use beta patch in steam.
You look fabulous as Xardas ;)
20:34 lol this is not a bug its a new feature added by CP(Community Patch)
As for this almost idyllic, peceful Myrthana - you'd think Germans of all peopole would know how to make a dangerous warzone occupied by hostile enemy forces and how it sucks for the occupied civillian population. Apparently the PB guys didn't know that.
Whoever likes this game, even with CP obviously never played first two. I would rather have Gothic 3 with same engine, graphics, combat system...(and everything) like the first two games, only with different story than this unfinished abortion of a game...But anyways PB is still my favourite game developer despite of bad circumstances and i hope that Elex will shine in their former glory.
+Faruk Hajrulahovic this here is a prime example of fanboy-ism (which makes me sad being a hardcore fan), it's very likely that people that have played G1 and G2 still liked G3 after that, it's called having a different taste, if everyone had the same taste things would be extremely dull.
+L2Nuku i think g3 on the old engine would be really cool, but the thing is they just fked a bit too much things up with the new engine so you lose a bit of the gothic fell if u know wat i mean
Uldis Gailis i do understand it somewhat, i personally like both engines for different reasons, but i never got the idea that the difference in engines was where the hate came from but more due the story and setting.
***** well the learning curve kinda dissapears and equipment upgrades compared to skill upgrades are quite silly, I mean the game loses its charm with the kinda reduced difficulty i think tho there are plenty of hard moments
Uldis Gailis true that.
A major issue I had with Gothic 3, was the overall look of the game. 2006 technology aside and even knowing that reusing that old G1 and 2 engine wouldn't work, I think Gothic 3 look fucking awful from a stylistic standpoint.
I hate every single Design choice PB made, from the animals, to the armors, to the cities and most importantly the orcs. Everything in this game would look awful even in an art-book.
For Gothic 3 Piranha should've just stuck to Gothic 2 artstyle and structure. Minimize empty, open fields, maximize clever design with caves, secrets 'n shit.
The game world definitely should've been smaller. And I would've been okay with it not being seamless. If you had to talk to someone to travel to the desert or some shit like that, I would not have any objections.
Let's say Act 1 happens in Myrtana, Act 2 happens in Varrant, in Act 3 you go back to Myrtana and the final Act happens in the harsh, snowy Nordmar.
You know, I don't think I've seen this complaint before but I completely agree with you. The contrast with Gothic 2, which I just finished once again, is abysmal.
Yeah the weapons, armors and monsters look like complete shit aesthetically compared to the 1st 2 games.
17:36 OH MY FUCKING GOD IS THAT COMIC SANS LMAOOOO
Apart from the bugs from lack of time I'm actually finding out (from the reviewers descriptions of how mechanics work) that he never actual learnt how to play the game.
I defiantly not saying the game is not broken (I played the first release OOF~ what a mess ) But I played every possible class combination and can say for a fact that they all work (if you take the time to learn how to fight with them).
yes...?
He isn't saying they don't work.
He's saying it sucks. Did you see him fight with the eyes turned to the camera?
@@emilychb6621 he had an enemy cornered, gothic 3 combat is brutal, a simple wolf can kill you even if your character is leveled up, you won t win by simply spamming. plus, did you saw that he actually installed and mentioned the community patch that changes combat and other things?
There is something I noticed about your style of review: It's reminiscent of "Red Letter Media". And it's beautiful
great video
The game now is actually great. I play it every few years from the beginning. Check out my review.
No
My mouse broke coz i was spamming "click here for part 2" but nothing kept happening :(
The ship shoild've been destroyed in a storm and you should've been washed ashore that way it would've also made sense if you were only washed ashore with your core group of friends
Ironically, they did just that in Risen 1... :P
You clearly seem to udnerstand why so many gamers love the Gothic, mostly for it's gameplay and replayability ^^
Though You don't know shit about the story, so plz don't make comments about it. For example, the barrier was NOT supposed to work as a one-way door - on top of the fact that there are many kinds of magical barriers in Gothic, it is celarly stated in all of the games that the one in Khorinis was affected (read: screwed) by the Sleeper's influence. Take a look at the Gothic Wikia page.
The Gothic Wikia is possibly the worst source for information, as it's very incomplete and has a ton of fan theories and speculations rather than actual facts. The barrier in Gothic 1 was supposed to be a one-way door. Otherwise, the convicts would be able to escape and it would defeat the point of setting up a magic barrier in the first place. What was influenced by the Sleeper was how big the barrier ended up being, as it wasn't supposed to trap the mages inside. The barrier over Vengard, on the other hand, was never explained. It's just shown and said that they put it up to keep the rest of the orc army from storming the city, but it's never explained why it works differently from the one over the Valley of Mines. Leaving stuff like this up to fan speculation is poor writing (which, like the rest of the story, was affected by the deadline from JoWood).
You're right about the barrier in Khorinis (and the fact that Sleeper affected only it's size), tho I was talking about them generally (the barrier spell was supposed to be a wall; the one in Khorinis was... special edition ^^). Though I cannot agree with the statement that Gothic wikia is bad source of information about Gothic series - it covers almost everything from Gothic comic up to the damned Arcania... The thing is that we might be talking about different Wikias, cause of different languages o.0
I'm talking about the two English ones, which don't even have a page about either of the barriers, now that I checked. Can't really check any other languages for lore when my first language is English, so I can't speak for other wikis.
Even the German Gothic "Almanach" is just full of useless speculation so it's not credible either way.
Well, imma from Poland and the polish Gothic wiki is pretty huge.
Believe it or not. Gothic 3 was one of my "favorite" parts of the gothic series. I don't know how, but I just loved it and really enjoyed it. The graphics, story, gameplay, atmosphere etc. the game has flaws no doubt about it, but I still enjoyed it.
But after watching your video, my point of view about gothic 3 was obliterated, when I found out how awesome the game it would be, if it would be on the same level as gothic 1 & 2.
Also you mentioned that the PB lost the rights about gothic series. This is true, but they got it back, when Jowood collapsed after the release of Gothic 4, which was shit, but PB don't have the interest to continue the series, because, they don't feel comfortable with it anymore.
Unfortunately, PB could just go and retire, because after risen 1, they were releasing a bunch of shit and I'm really sad, that such a good company fell like that. The gothic will never be the same again.
Currently, they are making a new game Elex, a sci-fi RPG, let's wait and see, if it will be any good :D
are you alive bro?
This is my 3rd attempt to play this game and its 2016. And with twice or triple the spec pc of that time i can play it at 30fps -not maxed. How can someone even play it at that time with this engine?
After this I ll play oblivion once more for 5th time.
15:10 the stuff with the shield...
It's not really a problem of the game but more of inaccurate depiction of "sword and board" in medieval/fantasy fiction in general. I have seen soo many movies and shows where the shield is essentially used as nothing but a counterweight.
why were the heads so small?
18:43
doing things like this is the fun of the game :D
Brother please help me out !! You know that in Geldern take the paladin helmet .. I get in there, steal all of that and not show my paladin helmet !! Easy Game !! Should Medium game to show me ?? Or something from setting .. Tell me what to do please
I swear Gothic 3 is one of the best RPGs to ever exist (in it's current patched version) It's like Skyrim but several years before, with some parts being better, like the feeling of reward from progressing (skyrim can be won in less than 2 hours). Sure there are flaws like not taking damage while using inventory, but if you aren't extremely pessimistic they honestly don't matter at all.
Dude, did you play G1 and G2 tho.
It's a bad Gothic game. I's also a bad game, even with all the bugs fixed.
@@CESSKAR not only is the far technically superior gothic game, but its also one of the best rpg s around
Gothic 3, Fable 3, TMNT 3, christ 3 is cursed
God of War 3, Elder Scrolls 3, Metal Gear Solid 3
Please dissect Elex in the same way.
I actually enjoyed playing it.
But I didn't play any of the other PB games. I've now started with elex, but the combat is imo worse that gothic 3.
plz come back :(
OH my god the end killed me ,wtf why game creators add that sound XDDDD
I think the conclusion is that Gothic 3 is a terrible piece of garbage, but it is just so cute and endearing - so it is terrible in a sort of good way. Also, I look forward to more content. You're the Mr. Plinkett of vidyeo gaymes
4.11? Eh, now I understand why are there are so few women in Gothic games.
Gothic 3 was good tho
very very good