Also wanting a MR2AR; unfortunately, my 4agze is getting tired and not much can be done with the Ogura supercharger without shortening its life or drastically increasing intake temps
@@FrankensteinMotorworks I saw your post and pictures with the 2AR mounted in your AW11. It looked like custom welding motor mounts, but it really inspired me. Is there any way you would support that chassis?
Ports are massive for a factory engine. Ive been saying all along, the same principles used in high performance motors: big cams, big ports with a good flowing head, good oil system, fully counter weighted crank. It applies to economy engines as well. The only real difference is the materials used
The FXE hybrid motors seem to be quite interesting to work with. I wonder if any other FXE engines such as the 2ZR, 2AZ, etc. can also benefit from the intake cam on the exhaust side as well or if it's even possible in the other hybrid engine series.
I've got 2GR-FXE intake cams on the way but those won't easily be swappable over to the exhaust side. but there's a possibility for this to work on other motors also.
The 1nzfxe from 04-09 prius makes very high compression with non-atkinson cams. I put 1st gen scion xb cams (1nzfe), colder spark plugs, and 93 octane and that prius ripped harder than anyone expected.
Excited about this one. You answered my question about not having variable timing on the exhaust with the 2AR--FXE; can be retrofit provided you move an intake cam to the exhaust side AND retrofit a solenoid / control module. Ready to pull my 2ZZ and swap in this engine. Let's see what she does!
yeah, the jury is still out on exactly how much power will be lost without it. i plan on running it on the dyno at fixed positions to see what it would do without exhaust vvt-i also.
Frankenstein Motorworks $150 or so to get variable exhaust timing seems cheap to me...and the stock 2AR-FE ECU is going to expect variable exhaust valve timing regardless.
@@reneneron2971 That, I feel, is key for so many people wanting to run the stock ECU. Although I suppose a tune can be provided for most any setup (like if the FXE WAS MADE into a dual VVTI +2.7l)
@@FrankensteinMotorworks Are there any other FWD transmission that bolt up to the 2ar other than the EB60/62? I want to swap this engine into my FWD ae11 Levin sometime in the future.
I would say that is a low mileage engine, its so clean! I had to pull a egr/cooler off a Prius yesterday because it was setting a code for insufficient flow... it was pretty much plugged solid! 283,000kms but it has had issues recently with burning oil.
I was a bit skeptical of the mileage claim when i first saw the motor but once i opened it i 100% agree, this motor matches the 50k mile claim that i was given.
Hi Frankenstein Motorworks Why do you remove the balancer shafts when you build the motor? Are they not reliable or capable for the higher rpm you are going to run the motor at or is it simply to reduce rotating inertia and drag etc? PS I'm enjoying your videos and really impressed by the simple but clever ways you are turning common volume motors into potential performance donors. I just wish I had such a ready supply of these in the UK.
Is it necessary to keep the balance shaft bracket for structure or something? It looked to me like there was sufficient bracing and structure for the crank below so why do you refit it?
The bottom half of the balance shaft assembly holds the windage tray and the oil pickup. This stuff could be replaced but something does need to be there.
Because they add weight, aerate the oil in the crank case and cost horsepower to spin. It makes sense to have them when the motor is used in a camry but anything above 800rpm or so and the vibrations can't be felt and this car does not spend much time below 800rpm
That makes two of us :) I have no idea if i will make a 2.7L version or not but it seems likely. I'll see what the power curve looks like out of this one first.
I’m a little confused @ 16:25 , what donor engine has the dual VVT-I parts we’re looking for? Btw, if something similar can be done to the 1NZFXE (Prius) engine? You could potentially have another customer base with all the Toyota Echo, Yaris and Scion xA/xB boys around!
All of the 2AR-FE motors are dual VVT-I so i just used one of those. only the 2AR-FXE is single vvt-i. The 1NZ should be doable but i would not do it in the Prius. the Transmission is electrically balanced and if the motor is making significantly more power than expected i would expect transmission calibration issues. But as you said, in the non hybrid versions this would likely be a cheap way to make power.
Any ideas on what manual transmission will bolt right up to this? I'm getting a friend's fx16 and going to be going for some serious power and pulling the 4age and selling the auto trans with it to cover costs.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks so if you were REALLY worried about weight you could swap it out for spacers or something? Probably not worth doing it, was all aluminum wasn't it?
I bet you can take the rear wheel drive Lexus hybrid engine, motor, batteries, wires and computer and stick it in an old car, like a Ford Zephyr or a 32 Ford roadster. If you can set it up so that the motor and engine can run simultaneously at full chat, or engine alone when it’s party time, all the better.
@@1968spikey with my limited understanding of high power motor availability over there this is still a good deal over in the UK even though it isn't as cheap as here. My SW20 customers in the UK routinely pay $2500-4000 to import a 2gr-fe.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks Yeah I get that. I wasn;t being negative about the swap, it's just frustrating here in the UK everything is at a premium. I'm guessing the 2AR-FXE bolts up to an SW20 trans?
@@1968spikey Yes, the 2AR-FXE bolts up to the E153 transmission. That can be used in the Spyder but it requires quite a bit of crossmember adjustments.
this cam is actually slightly lower lift and duration than the 1ar-fe setup i did just a few weeks ago so i do not expect any issues. This motor is just barely an interference motor
@@FrankensteinMotorworks Ah, i thought these had a higher dome on the piston for higher compression so i was worried it might have less piston to valve clearance on the side you put the higher lift cam in as usually pistons relief depths aren't equal between exhaust and intake valves?
U remember do you think I need that heat exchanger warmer thing behind the exhaust because I know how to wait to warm my car up being that I have a CVT I know it takes a little longer can I delete that cuz I need headers and I have the hybrid motor
@@DrArrow I would expect that deleting the EGR would get you a fault code and a failed emissions monitor. Beyond that i'm not sure what impacts it would have if anything would be put into a limp home mode but i do know fuel economy will suffer. EGR us used to reduce pumping losses in an engine.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks yes I will get the code but there's a way to premently bypass it , an I Kno about the gas this is strictly for power gains for this motor can't wait for this cams
I love your work with these toyota engines and the mr-s platform, but if you could somehow branch out into miatas/240sx, you could make a lot more money. I don't want to diminish your passion (and mine as well) for toyotas, just a thought in the financial direction.
The problem with those platforms is a few things, first i don't have a stupid addiction to them. And second it is a *VERY* crowded field. There's only the Honda k-series crowd here for competition.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks True, but if the 2AR-FXE experiment works out, it's a very viable alternative to the K24 even just in terms of price (280hp for $1000 vs. 280hp for $2000+, both would need standalone). Having 12.5:1 CR with massive cams all from factory is something even the K can't boast about.
Yeah and I prefer Toyota motors, and your parts are better made, and much more fairly priced... The Honda J swap is getting there for me, it's close. But still no way to do it reasonably given the value of my Miata at current. But I've gone through 2 Mazda VVT weak sauce motors. A better designed version of the ecotec option would be amazing.
I'm so glad someone is finding out what parts can be mixed/swapped on the different 2AR engines
This is my favorite automotive youtube channel as of late. All I can think about is how to fit a 2AR into my aw11 mr2.
"JUST DO IT" - Shia LaBeouf
I did swap a 2AR into an AW11 back in 2009. It was actually the first 2AR-FE that i bought, just months after they hit the showroom floor.
Also wanting a MR2AR; unfortunately, my 4agze is getting tired and not much can be done with the Ogura supercharger without shortening its life or drastically increasing intake temps
@@FrankensteinMotorworks I saw your post and pictures with the 2AR mounted in your AW11. It looked like custom welding motor mounts, but it really inspired me. Is there any way you would support that chassis?
I subscribed because I got a free 2AR with broken timing chain. I was going to fix it up and put it in my AW11. Next I need a manual trans.
100% the mr2 spyder guru
Thanks :)
Ports are massive for a factory engine.
Ive been saying all along, the same principles used in high performance motors: big cams, big ports with a good flowing head, good oil system, fully counter weighted crank.
It applies to economy engines as well. The only real difference is the materials used
A GS300h just dropped in my pick and pull, I want to do this for my tC.
The FXE hybrid motors seem to be quite interesting to work with. I wonder if any other FXE engines such as the 2ZR, 2AZ, etc. can also benefit from the intake cam on the exhaust side as well or if it's even possible in the other hybrid engine series.
I've got 2GR-FXE intake cams on the way but those won't easily be swappable over to the exhaust side. but there's a possibility for this to work on other motors also.
The 1nzfxe from 04-09 prius makes very high compression with non-atkinson cams. I put 1st gen scion xb cams (1nzfe), colder spark plugs, and 93 octane and that prius ripped harder than anyone expected.
This is the direction I was hoping for
Excited about this one. You answered my question about not having variable timing on the exhaust with the 2AR--FXE; can be retrofit provided you move an intake cam to the exhaust side AND retrofit a solenoid / control module. Ready to pull my 2ZZ and swap in this engine. Let's see what she does!
yeah, the jury is still out on exactly how much power will be lost without it. i plan on running it on the dyno at fixed positions to see what it would do without exhaust vvt-i also.
Frankenstein Motorworks $150 or so to get variable exhaust timing seems cheap to me...and the stock 2AR-FE ECU is going to expect variable exhaust valve timing regardless.
@@reneneron2971 That, I feel, is key for so many people wanting to run the stock ECU. Although I suppose a tune can be provided for most any setup (like if the FXE WAS MADE into a dual VVTI +2.7l)
Oh fuck I'm excited about this. Makes me wanna put off my 2gr swap to see if you can get this to work out well. Sounds interesting
We are in the same boat. I also have to find out how much lighter the 2ar is compared to the 2gr
@@e5141981 24kg (53lbs) lighter according to Toyota.
Loving these videos.
Awesome, please keep watching and i'll keep making more :)
@@FrankensteinMotorworks Are there any other FWD transmission that bolt up to the 2ar other than the EB60/62? I want to swap this engine into my FWD ae11 Levin sometime in the future.
I would say that is a low mileage engine, its so clean! I had to pull a egr/cooler off a Prius yesterday because it was setting a code for insufficient flow... it was pretty much plugged solid! 283,000kms but it has had issues recently with burning oil.
I was a bit skeptical of the mileage claim when i first saw the motor but once i opened it i 100% agree, this motor matches the 50k mile claim that i was given.
Wait! THIS is the video I've been waiting for! (Or, perhaps the next one...)
the next one is going to be assembly, the one after that will be the actual dyno video.
@@FrankensteinMotorworksOk, or the one after that!
When you said your torque wrench was miscalculated I finally realized you were just using a ratchet XD
Can’t wait to see the results.
Me too :) I should have a drive feel soon and numbers hopefully next week.
Hi Frankenstein Motorworks
Why do you remove the balancer shafts when you build the motor? Are they not reliable or capable for the higher rpm you are going to run the motor at or is it simply to reduce rotating inertia and drag etc?
PS I'm enjoying your videos and really impressed by the simple but clever ways you are turning common volume motors into potential performance donors. I just wish I had such a ready supply of these in the UK.
Is it necessary to keep the balance shaft bracket for structure or something? It looked to me like there was sufficient bracing and structure for the crank below so why do you refit it?
The bottom half of the balance shaft assembly holds the windage tray and the oil pickup. This stuff could be replaced but something does need to be there.
Keep up the detailed info and math man i love to here the methodology and info!
I've got a lot more to share so stick around :) Thanks for watching
You're the best bro
Thanks for watching :)
Why did you take out the balance shafts?
Because they add weight, aerate the oil in the crank case and cost horsepower to spin. It makes sense to have them when the motor is used in a camry but anything above 800rpm or so and the vibrations can't be felt and this car does not spend much time below 800rpm
If this works I am going to need to sell my 2ZZ swap. Keep up the good work!
that's the spirit! :)
Good job
Thank you :)
awesome content
So much hype for this combo! Is that Brooklyn import yard there?
Yes it is, i'm surprised someone recognized it :)
I cant wait to see the final numbers. Do you have plans of making this motor a 2.7 in the future?
That makes two of us :) I have no idea if i will make a 2.7L version or not but it seems likely. I'll see what the power curve looks like out of this one first.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks great stuff, i will stay tune
I’m a little confused @ 16:25 , what donor engine has the dual VVT-I parts we’re looking for?
Btw, if something similar can be done to the 1NZFXE (Prius) engine? You could potentially have another customer base with all the Toyota Echo, Yaris and Scion xA/xB boys around!
All of the 2AR-FE motors are dual VVT-I so i just used one of those. only the 2AR-FXE is single vvt-i.
The 1NZ should be doable but i would not do it in the Prius. the Transmission is electrically balanced and if the motor is making significantly more power than expected i would expect transmission calibration issues. But as you said, in the non hybrid versions this would likely be a cheap way to make power.
Hey Marc. So the stock 2ar with the exhaust cam replaced by another intake cam will make 280hp at the crank?
Hey, why do you need to re-install the balance shafts casing? Great channel by the way.
Thanks! I reinstall the bottom half of the casting so i have something to bolt the windage tray and the oil pickup to.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks and if you get the tray and pickup tube from the 2.0 version of this engine the has no balance shafts (I suppose).
@@aperezuk can you tell me what application that is? i thought all of the AR engines had balance shafts.
Can you put this motor in a Prius?
it would certainly take some doing, lots of custom parts but i'm sure that technically it could be done but it would not be easy.
We need mawr!
more power or more videos? :)
@@FrankensteinMotorworks can't say both are a problem!
I missed why you put the balance shaft housing back in?
I only put 1/2 of it back in so i could have something to bolt the windage tray and the oil pickup to.
I was wondering when not using torque wrench was going to come and bite you. The German specification of good-n-tite doesn't convert to JIS. 😁
It happens. i try not to hide when i screw up. but honestly that stud was weak for some reason.
Any ideas on what manual transmission will bolt right up to this? I'm getting a friend's fx16 and going to be going for some serious power and pulling the 4age and selling the auto trans with it to cover costs.
EB60 and EB62 will bolt up
Do you need to reinstall the balance shaft assembly? is it there just to support the oil pickup (whatever it was that was supposed to be 6.5ft lb)
that was the oil pickup and yeah, i left the lower part of the assembly in there to support the oil pickup.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks so if you were REALLY worried about weight you could swap it out for spacers or something?
Probably not worth doing it, was all aluminum wasn't it?
@@WilliamJasonSherwood you could save 100-200 grams by cutting more bits out of it but it is quite light as-is
I bet you can take the rear wheel drive Lexus hybrid engine, motor, batteries, wires and computer and stick it in an old car, like a Ford Zephyr or a 32 Ford roadster. If you can set it up so that the motor and engine can run simultaneously at full chat, or engine alone when it’s party time, all the better.
Here in the UK 2AR FXE's are over 2000 dollars. :/
But at least they are available, unlike the other motors i was talking about before.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks yeah but but the whole point of circa 300bhp on a budget is surely the budget?
@@1968spikey with my limited understanding of high power motor availability over there this is still a good deal over in the UK even though it isn't as cheap as here. My SW20 customers in the UK routinely pay $2500-4000 to import a 2gr-fe.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks Yeah I get that. I wasn;t being negative about the swap, it's just frustrating here in the UK everything is at a premium.
I'm guessing the 2AR-FXE bolts up to an SW20 trans?
@@1968spikey Yes, the 2AR-FXE bolts up to the E153 transmission. That can be used in the Spyder but it requires quite a bit of crossmember adjustments.
Do you foresee and issues with the piston to valve clearance with the higher lift, higher duration cam?
this cam is actually slightly lower lift and duration than the 1ar-fe setup i did just a few weeks ago so i do not expect any issues. This motor is just barely an interference motor
@@FrankensteinMotorworks Ah, i thought these had a higher dome on the piston for higher compression so i was worried it might have less piston to valve clearance on the side you put the higher lift cam in as usually pistons relief depths aren't equal between exhaust and intake valves?
U remember do you think I need that heat exchanger warmer thing behind the exhaust because I know how to wait to warm my car up being that I have a CVT I know it takes a little longer can I delete that cuz I need headers and I have the hybrid motor
That isn't there to heat the coolant, that is there to cool the EGR gasses.
Ok another stupid question so I don't need the egr is it possible I can make something an delete them
@@DrArrow I would expect that deleting the EGR would get you a fault code and a failed emissions monitor. Beyond that i'm not sure what impacts it would have if anything would be put into a limp home mode but i do know fuel economy will suffer. EGR us used to reduce pumping losses in an engine.
@@FrankensteinMotorworks yes I will get the code but there's a way to premently bypass it , an I Kno about the gas this is strictly for power gains for this motor can't wait for this cams
I love your work with these toyota engines and the mr-s platform, but if you could somehow branch out into miatas/240sx, you could make a lot more money. I don't want to diminish your passion (and mine as well) for toyotas, just a thought in the financial direction.
2AR swap the world
The problem with those platforms is a few things, first i don't have a stupid addiction to them. And second it is a *VERY* crowded field. There's only the Honda k-series crowd here for competition.
@@michaelscholten9753 Someone's gotta stand up against the K-swap dominion
@@FrankensteinMotorworks True, but if the 2AR-FXE experiment works out, it's a very viable alternative to the K24 even just in terms of price (280hp for $1000 vs. 280hp for $2000+, both would need standalone). Having 12.5:1 CR with massive cams all from factory is something even the K can't boast about.
Yeah and I prefer Toyota motors, and your parts are better made, and much more fairly priced... The Honda J swap is getting there for me, it's close. But still no way to do it reasonably given the value of my Miata at current. But I've gone through 2 Mazda VVT weak sauce motors. A better designed version of the ecotec option would be amazing.
Has anyone put one of these in a miata?
Can i fit this in my yaris rs
Will this engine fits on a IS250?
not easily, but the 2gr-fse would since it is designed for that platform and already makes more power than this.
I thought maybe you highlighted your hair to match your shirt.