Hey everyone, I made a massive mistake in this video. When talking about the story and characters, I say skip to the time on screen if you'd like to avoid spoilers, but no time is shown. My bad! Please use the timestamps in the description box or on the video's progress bar! Sorry, thank you, guys. Skip to the presentation!
I remember someone asking Kamiya on Twitter if he was disappointed that Bayo 2 was being developed for inferior hardware. Kamiya responded asking if his mom was disappointed for having an inferior son.
Gotta love the story where Platinum comes to NIntendo with the alternate costumes based on Nintendo's characters, expecting to be denied for being to sexy, and Nintendo said "Nah we want sexier."
Honestly that really did shock me. I've started to hate Nintendo the older I get.. that was a seriously cool move on their part. Now can they release a pokemon game that doesn't look like a shitty Nintendo DS upscale?
I think it's because Nintendo knew dam well that no matter what they could do they could never make it a kids game or something parents would let their kids play with permission so they just went fuck it and went all in with the adult themes they also probably realised that the over the top adult themes where one of the reasons the game was so popular
@@cathyas3749 Gamefreak is literally a fake shell corporation comprised of Nintendo employees.. so No. It's still 100% Nintendo. They say that so dumb people like you will go "BUT THEY'RE JUST A SMALL INDIE COMPANY!" - HURRRRR no
Some other UA-cam commenter asserted that Nintendo's direct involvement brought the company into grown-up territory (I don't think "pubertize" is a word).
I wish I could say the same I personally think all of the new character redesigns are awful, especially Bayonetta I also never understood why they redesigned the characters. Cuz it was so distinct when Bayo 1 first came out, and it looked so cool and it makes me a little sad that we throw these designs immediately after the first game I don't have an issue with the idea of redesigns in general; I just think that they should have saved the redesigns for maybe after the 3rd or 4th game as to let the original design settle in instead of changing it right after the first entry But if you like the new designs, that's okay. This is just my opinion and how I feel
@@J_U_D_G_E_M_E_N_T Gameplay-wise, the redesigns are optional aren't they? And even DMC changes Dante's look for every game while having costumes (in older games and DmC). I'd probably be annoyed if the default felt ugly to me, but the designs aren't thrown out. Heck, even Smash has them so it is likely that we'll get Bayo 1, 2 and 3 looks for the next Bayo game at least.
@@thelastgogeta fair point However, I would like to point out that in the Bayo 3 trailer Bayonetta is shown with her Bayo 1 design. I wander why is that
@@J_U_D_G_E_M_E_N_T We'll find out if it means anything in due time, there has never been a bigger reason that "because character felt like it" for someone to look a certain way and it is a really old teaser at this point so accuracy may be less than usual. I think it would be misleading to make the Bayo from the teaser someone else, but we've had some bait and switches on smaller and larger scales already.
@@J_U_D_G_E_M_E_N_T At this point it's all theories, speculation and conjecture but, I've heard many theories. One that stood out for me was that Bayo 3 might be an alternate time-line where she didn't go to sleep for 500 years (this Bayo being the child Cereza that hangs out in the first game and learns to be brave). One of the reasons for this speculation is that the Cereza in the trailer has no mole. Some people think that possibly, Cereza got the mole after she made her pack with Madama Butterfly (the creator has a head-cannon that Cereza or witches, I think, get a mole when something of significance happens in their life). This would also explain why she's struggling in the fight, additionally, at this point, the Left Eye has not been awoken either. Again, it's all speculation but it does give a good reason why she's in her outfit from the first game.
Judging by his necklace, Loki's "Incredible Cosmic Power" involves summoning the spirit of an ancient Egyptian Pharaoh in order to be really, really good at playing a children's card game!
If Bayonetta 3 was after a big Time Skip.. Jeanne: [sees a card fly past her] Who dares...? “I hope you don’t mind a helping hand, dear!” Jeanne: Do you even *shave* on your own... Loki?
What are you talking about? Loki's necklace clearly only has 3 sides, which makes it _completely_ different from the Millennium Puzzle. Teflon Kamiya does it again.
I still think there’d be no greater tease than giving all the straight male gamers the sexiest leading female in all of video games, then having her be lesbian for her best friend and rival in the game.
there's a whole ass twitter account posting the daily status of bayonetta 3. It's just the same "there is no news." picture everyday, but when news does come up, it'll be there.
@@aox7507 If so, I'd dig them having a Mordecai to unite around since his channel has had a big collab between speedrunners, lore channels, voice actors, guide makers and more. Not sure we could do it without reaching into enthusiasts from other PlatinumGames games, but sitting on your hands waiting for Bayo 3 and Project GG in Discord is boring.
It's crazy how supportive Nintendo was for Bayo 2. Nintendo is pretty notorious for being pretty strict on who they grant their seal of approval to. I'm glad they were though. Bayonetta is such an amazing series.
Now we wait for Bayonetta 3.... any day now.... annnnyyyy daaaaayyyyyy noooowwwwww (Here's the whistling of wind and see's a bunch tumble weeds, with strands of hair in them)
Personally, I think that Nintendo does not know who the main villain would be so the because Bayonetta has already killed 2 of the 3 gods and she is not going to kill her own so I do not know where they can take the story.
@@MrMidnight007 some franchises are built on the main villian constantly using supernatural entities to keep up with the hero,granted they are all sorta friendly franchises like Kirby and usually sonic the hedgehog and bayonetta's bosses require alot more detailed designs.
Shame it plays so infrequently, Fly Me To The Moon played constantly in 1 but Moon River is barely used in the sequal. Wish they got more milage out of it as its one of the best songs in the series.
I really wished you mentioned that if you wore the Star Fox costume for the jet chapter, the segment just becomes a Star Fox level. I never play that chapter without cosplaying as Fox McCloud
It's rather disappointing that female characters & their friendships with each other are no long valued, particularly when they're young and attractive, where a certain segment of the internet without fail will automatically interpret the relationship through the lens of "Girl on girl is hot". I mean how exactly would your idea of a meaningful platonic friendship go between two women who essentially grew up together as sisters & have shown ZERO romantic or sexual interest in each other across two games despite having every possible opportunity to do so? Kind of strange for a character who isn't remotely shy about expressing herself sexually don't you think?
30:08 what if we were both the last survivors of the Umbra witches, initially running after each other in a cat and rat game, then through our rivalry we found companionship, we became to care so much for one another to the point we fight angels and live together, went to literal hell to be in each other’s arms again and we were both girls 😳😳😳😳
My favorite bit of unspoken storytelling in Bayonetta is, Ok you know how Rosa’s Lipstick was a thing in 1 and 2? In Bayo3 French Rosa, in the city of Love, is wearing Balder’s monocle. It is very much a blink and you’ll miss it, with Rosa actually being identified by the veils, chains, and clock tower of cursed souls but it is there, unspoken but still a present and deliberate part of the design
Nintendo DEFINED how a publisher should work with their development team. So many games are ruined by the publisher nickle and diming the devs and breathing down their neck. Nintendo really just stepped back and allowed Platinum to make the game their way. The results show for themselves. Bayonetta 2 is arguably better than the first which was already a high bar to surpass. What's funny is it runs smoothly at 60 frames and 1080p on the WiiU which was considered underpowered. While I think I still prefer the first, I think they are both the greatest 3d action games out there. Every aspect of it shines.
Guess Nintendo still has the right company culture, a culture which takes pride in their products instead of playing buisness games and playing for market shares and biggest income with the most scummy behavior. Hope that they will stay that way forever.
A note about the lyrics to the main battle themes. Mysterious Destiny is from second person POV and how she's looking for victory over/freedom from Jubileus. Tomorrow is Mine is first person, showcasing how Bayo has gained her own agency and freedom after the events of Bayo 1
"We have a bayonetta sequel where things are going to be more ridiculous and sexual." Nintendo: "Yes." Nintendo subsequently provided the chips and salsa
One thing i really love about the story is, this said with minor spoiler warnings, the cheesy motivational final lines are belted out by baldur, it gives it more weight when the end truly happens, and just feels more fitting for the character to me.
I’m so glad you’re talking about this game! This game was a huge reason why I got the Wii U when it came out! And this game did NOT disappoint! Fucking amazing!
It's wonderful watching these videos Sphere Hunter. Especially now that Bayonetta 3's latest trailer has dropped and the internet is on 🔥 again for this magnificent Queen and Platinum's usual masterful work.
I honestly love that there is someone who gives Bayonetta so much thought and love. I actually prefer 2nd game aswell - the only bad thing I can say about it, is the lack of dance sequence after credits :P.
Let me take a moment to thank you for these videos. During the course of this year, I've binge-watched all of your videos. You made me get into resident evil, DMC, Bayonetta, bloodstained, haunting ground, and Darkstalkers. I would have never taken the chance to try them if it wasn't for these beautifully edited videos. Thank you! Edit : Grammar
Came back to this video after already having watched it multiple times, and making me fall in love with Bayonetta, after stumbling upon Bayo 3’s trailer. Let’s just say I’m very hyped for it :3
Really appreciate that your thumbnails have been so consistent through out your game reviews. The artists behind these works of art are truly incredible ❤
Just gonna say that Suzi's / Sphere Hunter vids are always so nice to watch because of how much work goes into them and so much passion (for lack of a better word) being shown. Plus she is funny and entertaining too ^ ^
The thing with Umbran Climax is that more casual players can have fun with it, while more skilled users can decide to not use it in favor of racking up combos. I think it's a win win since it's not required to advance the game.
Your title card is incredible, the artist absolutely nailed your "peering over your glasses" look Awesome review and history. Keep up the good work, and thank you!
I still love how we've gotten more info about Elden Ring than we have about Bayo 3, and yet the former fan base acts like they've gotten nothing at all
I _really_ like the lack of 'super mode' in the first game because when you get really good at the game and you've unlocked a lot of things, there's this wealth of things to use magic on! It feels good to be consistently invincible with the Butterfly, or to rack up crazy combos with Sergey's Lover's clones, or to constantly spend smaller amounts of magic on Tetsuzanko, Heel Stomp, and the Umbran Spear, allowing for quick ways in and out of combat with no effort in exchange for some magic. On top of that, when you have a grasp on the combat, you'll almost ALWAYS have plenty of magic, and I always feel like I've got an infinite amount of Tetsus because my need for them never outweighs my usage! On top of that, combo points. Throwing around Torture Attacks is great as a casual player who just wants enemies dead, but requires very careful use when you're going for good ranks, as the damage always outweighs the combo points if you don't know when to use it. Umbran Climax _immediately_ introduces a hierarchy. It's no longer "what am I spending magic on for this battle?", it's now "ok, what am I doing _instead_ of Umbran Climax?"... ...and the answer is usually "Oh, nothing. I'm just using Umbran Climax." There is almost NEVER a reason to use Tetsuzanko or Heel Stomp or Portal Kick or Witch Twist, spending three orbs of magic for _one_ Wicked Weave, when you can just get UC and unleashed about 20 of them. I think another 'full bar' alternative to Torture Attacks could really work! But just not the way they did it in this game.
Yep, they would need to redesign Torture Attacks to maintain their utility in a Climax world and a separate meter is one possible solution though not one that addresses how Climax breaks the scoring as it can stun and kill the screen. I still want a super mode in Bayo (the mecha is something) but it should be closer to Devil May Cry 1 (taking the essence of a weapon for elements and a new look - you can see this in Bayo 1 during weaves) than trying to make Serious Mode present during the whole game.
@@thelastgogeta I would be into something that kept the Infernal Weaves, but didn't add more Wicked Weaves! And maybe each Infernal Weave could have different cool effects, like better knockback or better juggling, or just anything that adds to new cool ways to play the game. And at the same time, casual players who just want some more damage and some flashier stuff would still get that use, just like how Torture Attacks play into casual AND complex play!
@@Iinneus I don't know how much of it is Kamiya's witchcraft or dumb luck for basically every game he directs to have really good balance for the core gameplay even if they have quirks. I'm still not sure what can be done for Infernal Weaves besides making them a 50% meter option which works for one attack (players decide which one to cash in on, the big screen clearers are at the end of combos) but maybe multiple of them could be possible if you fulfilled some criteria... No idea if it is just having the right accessory or something like exchanging another built up meter... Yeah, I'm closer to thinking that Umbran Climax should be tucked into a separate gauge than other actions like Torture Attacks right now.
YAY! New Suzi video! :D I love hearing you talk about games you love, it's so inspiring! Bayonetta being a "Nintendo character" is one of the most bizzare twists of fate a I love it. Here's hoping Bayo 3 news is on the horizon soon
just making a lil note here cause i love watching you talk about stuff you're passionate about and you're one of the best examples of what I'm trying to build my channel up to be
Sphere Hunter: In Bayonetta 1, the Shotguns and ROcket Launchers were kinda just there... Me, sweating, remembering I pick those weapons ASAP and never ever change them afterwards.
@@TheSphereHunter I totally respect your opinion, and I mostly agree: the second game has crazier and more interesting weapons, which I switched more often. But I LOVED handling rocket launchers as tonfas and pelting enemies with explosives.
I was first introduced to Bayonetta through smash and I found Bayonetta 2 at GameStop. I thought I’d never put it down! It was my favorite game of all time and when Bayonetta 3 was announced I purchased the bundled edition for switch and loved the first game too. I’m so happy to be introduced to this great character that’ll always have a place in my heart 💜
1st - So glad you're back Suzi! 💕 2nd - That "hetero life partners" joke had me snorting from laughing so hard! 🤣 3rd - It's very interesting to me that the names "Madama Butterfly" and "Chernobog" were used in Bayo 2, as both have a unique corellation some might not realize; Western European classical music. Madama Butterfly is the name of the famous opera "Madame Butterfly" (aka the original Miss Saigon), by Italian playwright Giacomo Puccini (he also wrote La Bohème-- the original and better version of RENT), named for the Japanese protagonist of the opera "Cio-Cio-san" (pronounced "CHO-CHO-SAHN") which translates to "Madama Butterfly". While the name Chernobog is believed to be of Slavic descent and name of a pre-Christian, pagan god... more people might know Chernobog as the name of the elder demon that is depicted to look like The Christian Devil from the segment titled "Night on Bald Mountain" from Walt Disney's Fantasia movie (or one of the Summons you can get in Kingdom Hearts if you're a gamer, and not familiar with Fantasia). "Night on Bald Mountain" being the name of the piece of music used in that segment of "Fantasia", originally written by Russian composer Modest Petrovich Mussorgsky. Someone at Platinum Games must be a fan of Romantic Period classical music.
I've watched your bayo 1 video a while ago and now I get a newly update of bayo 2 video which is just as amazing and informative. What a blessing. Love your content.
I love the fact that you are always so documented when you do these presentations. You even take the time to say what some of the most hardcore fans of this type of gameplay perceived as regrettable.
I remember that they put bayo 3 on hold in order to push the development of astral chain forward quicker, but now astral chain is out I don’t know if platinums main focus is bayo 3 or a different project
I would absolutely kill to see you do deep dives into lore for the games you enjoy like Bayonetta. I could listen to you talk about the world building the weapons and everything for hours. I'm always happy to see I'm not alone in fanning over game mechanics and design XD
18:49 Fun fact: there are quite a lot of easter eggs in the two games that kinda solidify this theory. A few examples are an artwork of Dante playing poker at The Gates of Hell with Enzo, Antonio Redgrave also existing in the DMC universe -since Dante apparently took the alias Tony Redgrave as an homage to him and also the fact that Rodin apparently creates Bayo's weapons in the same way that Dante gets them. The only thing that makes this theory impossible is the obvious difference in design of Malphas, since in all of his appearances in Bayonetta had a design that was pretty similar to Griffon's while in DMC5 he was an horrendous amalgamate attached to a featherless bird.
suzi posts, we rejoice. these games are too hard for me, but what a world they create. the soundtracks, fashion, sound design, the overtop energy. such a delight
She is going to need somebody to fight because she killed the god of light and order and she is not going to fight her own so the possible enemies leave me clueless.
When I first played this game, I played it a lot like your friend, and while I didn't have a particular problem with it, I can understand how people can see things like Umbran Climax as op. I would say I overall had a more enjoyable experience with this game than the first. And yeah, Moon River slaps so hard. Great video as always Suzi! 😊
Hey everyone, I made a massive mistake in this video. When talking about the story and characters, I say skip to the time on screen if you'd like to avoid spoilers, but no time is shown. My bad! Please use the timestamps in the description box or on the video's progress bar! Sorry, thank you, guys. Skip to the presentation!
No prob bob
Didn't even realize it was a new upload, just wanted to say I enjoyed the video, thanks
Sphere hunter : new video
Me: yeah boi
Why you took so long😭😭😭😭😭
I love you suzie, please do rule of rose ❤️🌹
I remember someone asking Kamiya on Twitter if he was disappointed that Bayo 2 was being developed for inferior hardware. Kamiya responded asking if his mom was disappointed for having an inferior son.
Bruh
Thats alot of Damage!-phil swift
That's what I call an overkill
Emotional damage! Haha
Chad
Gotta love the story where Platinum comes to NIntendo with the alternate costumes based on Nintendo's characters, expecting to be denied for being to sexy, and Nintendo said "Nah we want sexier."
Honestly that really did shock me. I've started to hate Nintendo the older I get.. that was a seriously cool move on their part.
Now can they release a pokemon game that doesn't look like a shitty Nintendo DS upscale?
I think it's because Nintendo knew dam well that no matter what they could do they could never make it a kids game or something parents would let their kids play with permission so they just went fuck it and went all in with the adult themes they also probably realised that the over the top adult themes where one of the reasons the game was so popular
@@ZeranZeran Nintendo doesn’t make the Pokémon games. Your gonna have to take this up with game freak
@@cathyas3749 Gamefreak is literally a fake shell corporation comprised of Nintendo employees.. so No. It's still 100% Nintendo. They say that so dumb people like you will go "BUT THEY'RE JUST A SMALL INDIE COMPANY!" - HURRRRR no
Some other UA-cam commenter asserted that Nintendo's direct involvement brought the company into grown-up territory (I don't think "pubertize" is a word).
PG, “Is it ok for Bowser to be killing angels?”
Nintendo, “Absolutely.”
For Princess Peach Bowser would kill Gods. That’s kind of the problem
Despite preferring the first Bayonetta, her hairstyle and character design in this game is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I wish I could say the same
I personally think all of the new character redesigns are awful, especially Bayonetta
I also never understood why they redesigned the characters. Cuz it was so distinct when Bayo 1 first came out, and it looked so cool and it makes me a little sad that we throw these designs immediately after the first game
I don't have an issue with the idea of redesigns in general; I just think that they should have saved the redesigns for maybe after the 3rd or 4th game as to let the original design settle in instead of changing it right after the first entry
But if you like the new designs, that's okay. This is just my opinion and how I feel
@@J_U_D_G_E_M_E_N_T Gameplay-wise, the redesigns are optional aren't they? And even DMC changes Dante's look for every game while having costumes (in older games and DmC).
I'd probably be annoyed if the default felt ugly to me, but the designs aren't thrown out. Heck, even Smash has them so it is likely that we'll get Bayo 1, 2 and 3 looks for the next Bayo game at least.
@@thelastgogeta fair point
However, I would like to point out that in the Bayo 3 trailer Bayonetta is shown with her Bayo 1 design. I wander why is that
@@J_U_D_G_E_M_E_N_T We'll find out if it means anything in due time, there has never been a bigger reason that "because character felt like it" for someone to look a certain way and it is a really old teaser at this point so accuracy may be less than usual.
I think it would be misleading to make the Bayo from the teaser someone else, but we've had some bait and switches on smaller and larger scales already.
@@J_U_D_G_E_M_E_N_T At this point it's all theories, speculation and conjecture but, I've heard many theories. One that stood out for me was that Bayo 3 might be an alternate time-line where she didn't go to sleep for 500 years (this Bayo being the child Cereza that hangs out in the first game and learns to be brave). One of the reasons for this speculation is that the Cereza in the trailer has no mole. Some people think that possibly, Cereza got the mole after she made her pack with Madama Butterfly (the creator has a head-cannon that Cereza or witches, I think, get a mole when something of significance happens in their life). This would also explain why she's struggling in the fight, additionally, at this point, the Left Eye has not been awoken either.
Again, it's all speculation but it does give a good reason why she's in her outfit from the first game.
Judging by his necklace, Loki's "Incredible Cosmic Power" involves summoning the spirit of an ancient Egyptian Pharaoh in order to be really, really good at playing a children's card game!
If Bayonetta 3 was after a big Time Skip..
Jeanne: [sees a card fly past her] Who dares...?
“I hope you don’t mind a helping hand, dear!”
Jeanne: Do you even *shave* on your own... Loki?
That's what I was thinking too. "Is dude really wearing the damn Millennium Puzzle?"
What are you talking about? Loki's necklace clearly only has 3 sides, which makes it _completely_ different from the Millennium Puzzle. Teflon Kamiya does it again.
@@Th3Treasoner he LITERALLY draws a card out of nowhere there too when we see the necklace lmao
Bayonetta 2 had amazing music as well, really looking forward to Bayonetta 3, especially after that teaser trailer
I see you everywhere
Yeah
@@firstname474 Justin Y. inspired a lot of people to be everywhere in the comments
Bayonetta 2 is my favorite game from platinum games
@@gavin.l4440 mine too
The "live together as hetero life partners of course" really got me ahdkjshdka Historians say Jeanne and Bayonetta were very close best friends
Just two gals being pals. 🤣
"They were roommates"
@@PunkNKing oh my god they were roommates
Too be honest, I do see them more as sisters than anything else, but I totally get this as well.
I still think there’d be no greater tease than giving all the straight male gamers the sexiest leading female in all of video games, then having her be lesbian for her best friend and rival in the game.
there's a whole ass twitter account posting the daily status of bayonetta 3. It's just the same "there is no news." picture everyday, but when news does come up, it'll be there.
That's why I stopped browing the subreddit: it just becomes clown memes and emoji spam when Nintendo doesn't make Bayonetta 3 appear in a Direct.
So, similar to Elden Ring in the last year.
@@KaiKrimson56 oh my god that subreddit is so sad. They are always at the bottom of the barrel for content to talk about
Bayo and Jeanne look so done lol
@@aox7507 If so, I'd dig them having a Mordecai to unite around since his channel has had a big collab between speedrunners, lore channels, voice actors, guide makers and more.
Not sure we could do it without reaching into enthusiasts from other PlatinumGames games, but sitting on your hands waiting for Bayo 3 and Project GG in Discord is boring.
It's crazy how supportive Nintendo was for Bayo 2. Nintendo is pretty notorious for being pretty strict on who they grant their seal of approval to. I'm glad they were though. Bayonetta is such an amazing series.
They had Madworld on Wii...
Not too surprised
XD
They were strict 30 years ago
They published Eternal Darkness
A lot of people have this fixed image of Nintendo from 1990
@@ericp631 They still have that mindset in some areas
But at the same time pokemon waifus are intentionally designed like that.
Now we wait for Bayonetta 3.... any day now.... annnnyyyy daaaaayyyyyy noooowwwwww
(Here's the whistling of wind and see's a bunch tumble weeds, with strands of hair in them)
it has been one thousand two hundred and thirty two days since bayonetta 3 was announced
Sheeeesh
Personally, I think that Nintendo does not know who the main villain would be so the because Bayonetta has already killed 2 of the 3 gods and she is not going to kill her own so I do not know where they can take the story.
If you think this is bad you should see Pikmin fans, Pikmin 4 has been "nearly done" for over half a decade without any news.
@@MrMidnight007 some franchises are built on the main villian constantly using supernatural entities to keep up with the hero,granted they are all sorta friendly franchises like Kirby and usually sonic the hedgehog and bayonetta's bosses require alot more detailed designs.
the Bayonetta 2 remix of moon river lives rent free in my head.
Shame it plays so infrequently, Fly Me To The Moon played constantly in 1 but Moon River is barely used in the sequal.
Wish they got more milage out of it as its one of the best songs in the series.
@@_-Lx-_ tomorrow is mine is terrible to moon river why didn’t they use that
@@mrthanos8140
Nah, both songs are phenomenonal, I just wish they found a balance.
Bayonetta and Jean, just a pair of pals being gals big in the city. Gotta love that wholesome """friendship"""~
Jean? She’s not a pair of pants LMAOOO (it’s Jeanne)
...and they were roommates...
@@shammyprops3869 okay.
r/sapphoandherfriend
@@OEpistimon omg they were roommates
I really wished you mentioned that if you wore the Star Fox costume for the jet chapter, the segment just becomes a Star Fox level. I never play that chapter without cosplaying as Fox McCloud
Wait seriously?
@@BradMarmara yep! :D
@@tonyknighton4019 Holy moly
"And eventually live together as... hetero life partners of course" LMFAOOO
Thank you for putting together this video, Bayo 2 is wonderful
Unexpected crossover.
GALS
BEIN'
PALS
omggg
And they were roommates
It's rather disappointing that female characters & their friendships with each other are no long valued, particularly when they're young and attractive, where a certain segment of the internet without fail will automatically interpret the relationship through the lens of "Girl on girl is hot". I mean how exactly would your idea of a meaningful platonic friendship go between two women who essentially grew up together as sisters & have shown ZERO romantic or sexual interest in each other across two games despite having every possible opportunity to do so? Kind of strange for a character who isn't remotely shy about expressing herself sexually don't you think?
30:08 what if we were both the last survivors of the Umbra witches, initially running after each other in a cat and rat game, then through our rivalry we found companionship, we became to care so much for one another to the point we fight angels and live together, went to literal hell to be in each other’s arms again and we were both girls 😳😳😳😳
Fun fact: Lady Gaga is a fan of these games
Fun opinion: Lady Gaga should do a remix of Dancing in the Moonlight as the theme of Bayonetta 3
She acts like bayo with her outfits and crap
Wait, really? Lady Gaga is a fan of Bayonetta?
@@texanman7191 google Lady Gaga Bayonetta
1st good thing i hear about her
Heh Lady Gaganetta
Describing Cerza's and Jeanne's relationship to each other always conjures that meme image.
“Naughty or not, don’t mess with a Witch.”
I remember her using a more...hard hitting word...
*duck*
@@TheNocturnal1 Close...
chuck
@@aaroncohen2700 buck
My favorite bit of unspoken storytelling in Bayonetta is, Ok you know how Rosa’s Lipstick was a thing in 1 and 2? In Bayo3 French Rosa, in the city of Love, is wearing Balder’s monocle. It is very much a blink and you’ll miss it, with Rosa actually being identified by the veils, chains, and clock tower of cursed souls but it is there, unspoken but still a present and deliberate part of the design
I now have the sudden urge to replay both of the Bayonetta games and the DMC Saga
For no particular reason of course. 😁
@@noblesseoblige1076 I mean, have you seen Dante’s design in DMC 3? Dude is rocking a 12 pack all game
Nintendo DEFINED how a publisher should work with their development team. So many games are ruined by the publisher nickle and diming the devs and breathing down their neck. Nintendo really just stepped back and allowed Platinum to make the game their way. The results show for themselves. Bayonetta 2 is arguably better than the first which was already a high bar to surpass. What's funny is it runs smoothly at 60 frames and 1080p on the WiiU which was considered underpowered. While I think I still prefer the first, I think they are both the greatest 3d action games out there. Every aspect of it shines.
Guess Nintendo still has the right company culture, a culture which takes pride in their products instead of playing buisness games and playing for market shares and biggest income with the most scummy behavior.
Hope that they will stay that way forever.
Yooo that Suzie-Bayo art is incredible!!!
Her design in this game is perfection.
She’s like the avatar when we needed her the most she vanished
(I would never expect to get 69 likes thanks)
A note about the lyrics to the main battle themes. Mysterious Destiny is from second person POV and how she's looking for victory over/freedom from Jubileus. Tomorrow is Mine is first person, showcasing how Bayo has gained her own agency and freedom after the events of Bayo 1
And the wait is finally over. That reveal trailer for 3 was absolutely legendary.
Its been 5 years since the reveal and we still haven't gotten SMTV or Bayo3
At least we know SMTV is coming out this year (as long as it doesn't get delayed).
It's been 5 years ... shit.
No it hasn’t, the reveal for Bayo was at the game awards at the end if 2017
@@donkeypong1847 To avoid confusion, that means it’s been less than 3.5 years so far.
That means they're almost done
Finally! The Joker's mom 2 special edition featuring Dante's wife review. I've been waiting for this
This got the same type of energy as "Boruto's dad"
@@djbubblegum9975 lmao
😐 tf?
:D
@@CereDulce37 it's true
Just like Bayonetta you return with style, fashion, grace and genius.
"We have a bayonetta sequel where things are going to be more ridiculous and sexual."
Nintendo: "Yes."
Nintendo subsequently provided the chips and salsa
More like they supplied the tequila for Platinum Games’ margarita 👍🏾
One thing i really love about the story is, this said with minor spoiler warnings, the cheesy motivational final lines are belted out by baldur, it gives it more weight when the end truly happens, and just feels more fitting for the character to me.
Bro this channel is growing so fast I'm actually happy that it's getting the recognition it deserves
If Bayonetta 3 actually drops it would be The Miracle Sequel 2
@ZOAD TAUFIQUR poppin my head out from under the rock for just a sec..... What is an electric boogaloo?
@@ghosthound17 prolly a reference to spooderman 2, electric boogaloo
bayonetta 3, the miracle sequel: the sequel
boy do i have some news for you
@@ghosthound17 it’s a meme term
Bayonetta: *Hey Nintendo, will we meet again?*
Nintendo: *Metroid 4 didn't even come out and you neither*
Then we have hope now, no?
🙂
Metroid 4 was Metroid Fusion and now we have Metroid 5 (Dread). And Bayonetta 3 is on the way!
I’m so glad you’re talking about this game! This game was a huge reason why I got the Wii U when it came out! And this game did NOT disappoint! Fucking amazing!
What a wonderful way to unwind from a hectic day of grocery shopping 😄
Nice.
Don’t tell me you forgot the caviar
@@mrthanos8140 there's no Christmas without Caviar
40 mins of quality
Honestly all her videos are excellent quality.
WE ARE READY WITH POPCORN. SHE’S BACKKKK
It's wonderful watching these videos Sphere Hunter.
Especially now that Bayonetta 3's latest trailer has dropped and the internet is on 🔥 again for this magnificent Queen and Platinum's usual masterful work.
I honestly love that there is someone who gives Bayonetta so much thought and love. I actually prefer 2nd game aswell - the only bad thing I can say about it, is the lack of dance sequence after credits :P.
As mutch as I would want a dmc x bayo crossover, I don't think we could handle the condensed fabulousness.
And next year, your review on Bayonetta 3 might come.
Suzi knew she wanted to do this video as soon as the thumbnail was made
So that's why TBGS took 3 months to release the Ninja Gaiden 3 video, he was busy playing Bayo 2 with you.
Let me take a moment to thank you for these videos. During the course of this year, I've binge-watched all of your videos. You made me get into resident evil, DMC, Bayonetta, bloodstained, haunting ground, and Darkstalkers. I would have never taken the chance to try them if it wasn't for these beautifully edited videos. Thank you!
Edit : Grammar
Came back to this video after already having watched it multiple times, and making me fall in love with Bayonetta, after stumbling upon Bayo 3’s trailer. Let’s just say I’m very hyped for it :3
I just watched your first review again because I was waiting on the second one took a nap and now woke up to this
Really appreciate that your thumbnails have been so consistent through out your game reviews. The artists behind these works of art are truly incredible ❤
"I'm Jeanne, and this is my hetero-lifemate Bayonetta."
YES! Your first video made me finally finish bayonetta 1
I will SLEEP in my WiFi Plaza but I AM BUYING IT NOW
XD
Just gonna say that Suzi's / Sphere Hunter vids are always so nice to watch because of how much work goes into them and so much passion (for lack of a better word) being shown. Plus she is funny and entertaining too ^ ^
When we needed her the most, she returned! Welcome back and hope all is well!
The thing with Umbran Climax is that more casual players can have fun with it, while more skilled users can decide to not use it in favor of racking up combos. I think it's a win win since it's not required to advance the game.
I fuuucking love Bayonetta. 1 and 2. I can’t wait for 3. You are such a great content creator and your Bayo cosplay is to DIE for.
thank you for you videos on both bayo 1 and 2, i really need a refresher on the franchise before bayo3
They way she said Madama Butterfly!! My heart.😍🥰😍
Came back to this since Bayonetta 3 has been out for some time now. Love these reviews.
Simply one of the greatest character action games ever created and I eagerly await the 3rd installment :-)
5 months after, Bayonetta 3 has final come to light once more, with so much power in the trailer
13:01 I love how in the first game Rodin was like "I'm not putting chainsaws on your arms" and then second game comes around I love that its hilarious
Your Deep dive into these games is super impressive I love how much you obviously research and love these games...Thank you Sphere Hunter!!
The blood, sweat and tears you put into your videos always shows. Keep up the amazing work, Suzi! We appreciate it!
Your title card is incredible, the artist absolutely nailed your "peering over your glasses" look
Awesome review and history. Keep up the good work, and thank you!
I still love how we've gotten more info about Elden Ring than we have about Bayo 3, and yet the former fan base acts like they've gotten nothing at all
I _really_ like the lack of 'super mode' in the first game because when you get really good at the game and you've unlocked a lot of things, there's this wealth of things to use magic on! It feels good to be consistently invincible with the Butterfly, or to rack up crazy combos with Sergey's Lover's clones, or to constantly spend smaller amounts of magic on Tetsuzanko, Heel Stomp, and the Umbran Spear, allowing for quick ways in and out of combat with no effort in exchange for some magic.
On top of that, when you have a grasp on the combat, you'll almost ALWAYS have plenty of magic, and I always feel like I've got an infinite amount of Tetsus because my need for them never outweighs my usage! On top of that, combo points. Throwing around Torture Attacks is great as a casual player who just wants enemies dead, but requires very careful use when you're going for good ranks, as the damage always outweighs the combo points if you don't know when to use it.
Umbran Climax _immediately_ introduces a hierarchy. It's no longer "what am I spending magic on for this battle?", it's now "ok, what am I doing _instead_ of Umbran Climax?"...
...and the answer is usually "Oh, nothing. I'm just using Umbran Climax." There is almost NEVER a reason to use Tetsuzanko or Heel Stomp or Portal Kick or Witch Twist, spending three orbs of magic for _one_ Wicked Weave, when you can just get UC and unleashed about 20 of them. I think another 'full bar' alternative to Torture Attacks could really work! But just not the way they did it in this game.
Yep, they would need to redesign Torture Attacks to maintain their utility in a Climax world and a separate meter is one possible solution though not one that addresses how Climax breaks the scoring as it can stun and kill the screen.
I still want a super mode in Bayo (the mecha is something) but it should be closer to Devil May Cry 1 (taking the essence of a weapon for elements and a new look - you can see this in Bayo 1 during weaves) than trying to make Serious Mode present during the whole game.
@@thelastgogeta I would be into something that kept the Infernal Weaves, but didn't add more Wicked Weaves! And maybe each Infernal Weave could have different cool effects, like better knockback or better juggling, or just anything that adds to new cool ways to play the game.
And at the same time, casual players who just want some more damage and some flashier stuff would still get that use, just like how Torture Attacks play into casual AND complex play!
@@Iinneus I don't know how much of it is Kamiya's witchcraft or dumb luck for basically every game he directs to have really good balance for the core gameplay even if they have quirks.
I'm still not sure what can be done for Infernal Weaves besides making them a 50% meter option which works for one attack (players decide which one to cash in on, the big screen clearers are at the end of combos) but maybe multiple of them could be possible if you fulfilled some criteria...
No idea if it is just having the right accessory or something like exchanging another built up meter... Yeah, I'm closer to thinking that Umbran Climax should be tucked into a separate gauge than other actions like Torture Attacks right now.
And on the 1232nd day, Suzi blessed us with a Bayo 2 video to help ease the pain. 😭
Man am I glad you made made this vid. Good to have you back!
YAY! New Suzi video! :D
I love hearing you talk about games you love, it's so inspiring!
Bayonetta being a "Nintendo character" is one of the most bizzare twists of fate a I love it.
Here's hoping Bayo 3 news is on the horizon soon
Oh yeah Bayonetta 2 discussion we needed this one! Love the in depth conversation on all aspects of the game even it's history!
A day with a new The Sphere Hunter video is a good day!
just making a lil note here cause i love watching you talk about stuff you're passionate about and you're one of the best examples of what I'm trying to build my channel up to be
Sphere Hunter: In Bayonetta 1, the Shotguns and ROcket Launchers were kinda just there...
Me, sweating, remembering I pick those weapons ASAP and never ever change them afterwards.
What I mean is compared to the second game, they're just not as interesting as some of the crazy stuff you'd find in the sequel.
@@TheSphereHunter I totally respect your opinion, and I mostly agree: the second game has crazier and more interesting weapons, which I switched more often.
But I LOVED handling rocket launchers as tonfas and pelting enemies with explosives.
@@TheSphereHunter The reason why Sega was making less games at the time is because they mostly cared about Pachinko Machines than less Popular games.
I was first introduced to Bayonetta through smash and I found Bayonetta 2 at GameStop. I thought I’d never put it down! It was my favorite game of all time and when Bayonetta 3 was announced I purchased the bundled edition for switch and loved the first game too. I’m so happy to be introduced to this great character that’ll always have a place in my heart 💜
1st - So glad you're back Suzi! 💕
2nd - That "hetero life partners" joke had me snorting from laughing so hard! 🤣
3rd - It's very interesting to me that the names "Madama Butterfly" and "Chernobog" were used in Bayo 2, as both have a unique corellation some might not realize; Western European classical music. Madama Butterfly is the name of the famous opera "Madame Butterfly" (aka the original Miss Saigon), by Italian playwright Giacomo Puccini (he also wrote La Bohème-- the original and better version of RENT), named for the Japanese protagonist of the opera "Cio-Cio-san" (pronounced "CHO-CHO-SAHN") which translates to "Madama Butterfly". While the name Chernobog is believed to be of Slavic descent and name of a pre-Christian, pagan god... more people might know Chernobog as the name of the elder demon that is depicted to look like The Christian Devil from the segment titled "Night on Bald Mountain" from Walt Disney's Fantasia movie (or one of the Summons you can get in Kingdom Hearts if you're a gamer, and not familiar with Fantasia). "Night on Bald Mountain" being the name of the piece of music used in that segment of "Fantasia", originally written by Russian composer Modest Petrovich Mussorgsky. Someone at Platinum Games must be a fan of Romantic Period classical music.
the effort & quality of your retrospectives are elite. always so freaking good.
That Bayo-Suzi art is amazing!
I've watched your bayo 1 video a while ago and now I get a newly update of bayo 2 video which is just as amazing and informative. What a blessing. Love your content.
I love the fact that you are always so documented when you do these presentations. You even take the time to say what some of the most hardcore fans of this type of gameplay perceived as regrettable.
When you said "Goth Gamer" my brain immediately filled in "Nation" at the end.
And when we needed her the most...she returned
Hands down my favorite character action game of all time. The variety in gameplay and setpieces is astounding.
I remember that they put bayo 3 on hold in order to push the development of astral chain forward quicker, but now astral chain is out I don’t know if platinums main focus is bayo 3 or a different project
I would absolutely kill to see you do deep dives into lore for the games you enjoy like Bayonetta. I could listen to you talk about the world building the weapons and everything for hours. I'm always happy to see I'm not alone in fanning over game mechanics and design XD
Well Bayo 3 comes out in 2022 so I’ll be looking forward to the Bayo 3 video😊
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Fun fact: there are quite a lot of easter eggs in the two games that kinda solidify this theory.
A few examples are an artwork of Dante playing poker at The Gates of Hell with Enzo, Antonio Redgrave also existing in the DMC universe -since Dante apparently took the alias Tony Redgrave as an homage to him and also the fact that Rodin apparently creates Bayo's weapons in the same way that Dante gets them.
The only thing that makes this theory impossible is the obvious difference in design of Malphas, since in all of his appearances in Bayonetta had a design that was pretty similar to Griffon's while in DMC5 he was an horrendous amalgamate attached to a featherless bird.
BAYONETTA 2 LETS GOOOOO
suzi posts, we rejoice. these games are too hard for me, but what a world they create. the soundtracks, fashion, sound design, the overtop energy. such a delight
A second in and it's already a classic
A bayonetta cosplay would be quite a surprised but I love you covering the game it lovely work ^^
bayonetta 3: now featuring dante from the devil may cry series
lmao
She is going to need somebody to fight because she killed the god of light and order and she is not going to fight her own so the possible enemies leave me clueless.
Having Dante as a secret boss would be very interesting.
When I first played this game, I played it a lot like your friend, and while I didn't have a particular problem with it, I can understand how people can see things like Umbran Climax as op. I would say I overall had a more enjoyable experience with this game than the first. And yeah, Moon River slaps so hard. Great video as always Suzi! 😊
I’m still bummed out that I can’t find this rendition of Moon River on iTunes.
I love all your videos and the passion the flows into each of them. Please keep up the good work!!
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I have nothing more to say.
This is accurate
Personnaly I absolutly love the flying set pieces, those are always the most hype and cool looking part in this game.
Just beat it and tommorow is mine is a certified bop
We missed you! A long awaited and so glad its with this game
Who’s here after bayo 3 trailer
Discovered your channel just now. Was entranced by your beautiful voice and stayed for your content.
Keep it up.