How The 3rd Birthday Killed Parasite Eve
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Good video
Kekekekekekrk lmao Other M jokes
At least other m had good gameplay imo
I agree with it. P3 birthday failed 😞
I felt confused with the storyline and gameplay wasn’t that memorable.
I can’t understand why they do something so ridiculous.
We Need A Parasite Eve 1 & 2 Remake. ( The right way )for the ps5 or ps4 and other consoles.
Love the video
"Nomura wanted to make Parasite Eve sexier"
As if a beautiful woman in a black evening dress pulling a gun and jumping into battle with a horrible godbeast isn't already the sexiest thing ever
This
It's pretty clear Nomura was just playing out his own personal fantasy here, and not making an actual character or a decent game.
@@aria5614 I've said this before I will say it again. Nomura is just the type of person that will force whatever crazy idea he comes up into a story no matter how convoluted and nonsensical it is.
Ripped jeans is an actual fetish....lol
For him any woman that isnt a moe baby faced object constantly making anime moaning noises isnt a sexy woman
_"Aya, aim for the front legs to stop its movement!"_
_"Aim the sniper rifle by using the scope"_
_"Aya, eat food with your mouth!"_
_”Aya, walk by moving your legs!”_
_"Aya, look by using your eyes!"_
_"Aya, hold and touch things by using your hands!"_
@@cocodojoMaeda: AYA USE YOUR BODY TO PLEASE ME
The fact that this level of condrscencion towards Aya's abilities is justified by the unholy plotwist is the worst part.
"Aya, please listen to my song! With your ears!"
"Aya, please stop eating peanuts with your eyes!"
Parasite Eve.........[Smokes cigarette] Haven't heard that name in year's
We need a reboot or remake of the original Parasite Eve with FF7 Remake graphics.
only true gamers play this game
that apostrophe placement is painful to look at
@@KaptainKommissar *year is
Year is. Really?
I'm so glad that Metroid Dread resolidified Samus Aran being the badass she was before Other M. I really hope Aya Brea gets a similar treatment in the future, it's what she deserves.
Unlikely. Books author co owns the rights and he's doesn't want anymore.
I also doubt the novel author is willing to sell the right to Square, or anyone.
@@makeitthrough_ the books author owns the ip name of parasite eve and the whole premise of mitochondrial eve. The game was sequal to the book and He didn't want anymore adaptations after PE2 so square had to do a spin off much like what you described with little to no connections to the pe1 and 2 apart from the characters. Hence the 3rd birthday.
“The Baby.”
This comment oozes of
I miss the subtext of Samus having emotions
~SPOILER~
So your saying that the twist is...
A Literal...
Character...
Assassination?
...😱😰🤬
Kinda.... They threw out a whole game of metaphorical character assassination... only to FORCE THE PLAYER TO CARRY OUT A LITERAL ONE.
If I was playing this, even with minimal knowledge of the first two games, I'd remove the game from my system immediately when asked to kill Aya. Nope, close the game, remove it, delete it, sell it, crush it, whatever, just get it as far away from me and my Playstation as possible. You can't make ME kill Aya Fucking Brea. Not in a million years.
@@Percival917 No wonder Sphere Hunter had a visceral reaction of hatred toward this game...How heartwrenching.
50:15 - "I hate this game."
I could just FEEL the relief in that. The review started with us in the shoes of you when you were FIRST getting the game and you were kind of keeping your opinion close to your chest so we could unravel everything...
...and now that it's all out, you can just say it. It's over with!
game sucks
Why do some of the features they added in to 'The 3rd Birthday' remind me of 'Mindjack'?
Count yourself lucky if you don't know / remember that one.
@@QJ89 oh yuck I remember that game, what a mess
Reminds me of a certain Nerd saying "This game sucks!"
"with adult themes" is an instant red flag for every game in development. P.E. 1&2 were entirely adult, they both handled several adult themes and established fully grown characters in interesting ways. every time a developer says that, the game is almost universally guaranteed to be trash.
I mean, definitely. Sex and pregnancy is at the core of the original game.
"Adult themes" is male dev speak for "TITS!!!!!" and often sexual assault being dressed up in way to downplay it or even try to titillate.
@@darthizzleI think across the whole of gaming it has less to do specifically with male devs, and more to do with crappy writers and braindead investors.
Take Obsidian's "Pillar's of Eternity 2" for example. The first game was well written and interesting, though definitely not perfect. The second game's writers proclaimes the story would be more "mature" yet what this boiled down to in the end was a large number of NPCs randomly being horny for the PC, regardless of the PC's gender.
The conflation of mature themes with sexual themes is really annoying, and way too prevalent across all media
@@perryborn2777 now that's an oddity. Never heard a that series. How's the first game?
@@Mike14264 It's a CRPG made in the style (loosely) of the old Infinity Engine games (Baldur's Gate games)
It's got some issues, but overall it's a fun game, and fairly well written, especially with the world building
Well, I hope we can all agree with at least one thing:
Even when Square Enix is at its worst, Yoko Shimomura is still a goddess among humans.
Correct.
Shimomura will always be a goddess.
What do you expect from the woman who made Guile's Theme?
@@TheEmperorHyperion Dududu-duu~
I always considered PE1 Aya’s liberate form as her “devil trigger” which was pretty cool.
Pretty accurate tbh
so Aya can Pull the Devil Trigger? yeah that cool for me haha
@@ShopperKungVtuber Devil Trigger *thumbs up* ....... "Pull the devil trigger" *two thumbs down*
Excuse me Nero's "Devil Trigger" is easily the best song on that OST. Until Bury the Light hit at least. Now they fight each other for dominance.
Human shapeshifters called "High ones"
Im sure many people experience shape shifting when they get blazed AF
Imagine if the entirety of The 3rd Birthday turned out to be a drug trip in-universe...
When I heard that, all I could think was Bloodborne
"The 3rd birthday" was my first game in the trilogy and i never knew that there were games before, it sounds so disconnected from the past games tbh
This is the same for me. So I suppose because it was my first one, I find myself not disliking it as much as Parasite Eve fans might.
It's like Resident Evil games. I start on 5 and thus had a great time with it. Yet RE vets disliked it because it was so action packed and less survival horror compared to what came before.
But since I start one 5 I love the action AND the survival horror. Have yet to play 7/8 so I don't have strong opinions on 8.
Anyways back to Parasite Eve. I'm sure I'll love the first 2 almost as much as I enjoyed the 3rd vs a PE vet.
You poor, poor soul
@@nikunjshrestha7076 With the standars we begun, no, it´s not that good. It´s so twisted.
Just imagine Maeda moaning to little Eve when she shines with overdrive. NOMURA AND THE TEAM KNOWED THIS BECAUSE THE ENDING THEY PLANNED AND THEY STILL LIKED THE IDEA OF A GOOD AND BELOVED CHARACTER TURNED INTO A SICK MAN... Sorry, can´t finish that line.... :(
It just fill of cringe all the way... And there where even better games for the PSP to prove it failed touching the AAA bar we waited from Square in this game.
That's like watching Alien Covenant first before seeing the original films.
You need to chill out man its not that serious@@theerickdraves
"SQUARE ENIX BLOCKED THIS VIDEO FOUR TIMES BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO FORGET THIS ENDING IS BAD"
....In case they block this a fifth time. Thank you, Suzi, for the honest reviews that give context. These kind of videos are the ones that deserve monetary support.
Wait, is this why I'm only seeing this now?!
square enix probably blocked this because "3rd birthday" is not part of the Eve canon and they only recently re-acquired the Eve IP.
@@jasond.valentine5931 You can't hide your sins Square Enix they're bare for all the world to see for all time.
@@franzhopper7631 so dramatic wow!
@@franzhopper7631 Judging by their statements and behaviure, i highly doubt there will ever be a Parasite Eve 3, but more probable that, as they said, will use the game characters in future games otherwise "would be wasted". This is quite frustrating imo. IM just hopeful for a remake and or reboot.
From now on refer to this game as The Babel
Roger that!
Must be the Broble and Bibble's cousin.
But pronounced babble.
Best comment
@@Mike14264 But if this was V's book of poetry it would be called the Vibble.
I’m just glad that 20-year-old broke college student me passed this game over for Peace Walker
addi543 good idea kitty.
Peace Walker was dat boi
Virgin 3rd Birthday vs. Chad Peace Walker
Paz: Yeah! ♥️
I'm glad you dodged a bullet. As for the 13 year old me, I got shot once lmao.
literal character assassination
Came here to say that.
"They confirmed this is not an earth quake of any sort!"
What gave it away, the giant flesh monstrosity jutting out of the ground?
Nah man, that's always been there. It's still standing there in New York right now. People mostly use it for selfies now.
@@kentalacrucia Ah makes sense. So is getting consumed by it or whatever part of the tour?
@@kentalacrucia Nice.
I'd accept dialogue like that if it was immediately followed by a soldier stating "GEE you don't say?!"
@@ninneplug It would of been a smart move.
Pat put it so good when he said this and Other M came out in the same year: "Are you a strong confident blonde woman with a gun? NO YOU'RE NOT!"
The baby!
Adam Snee The Baby’s 3rd form while crawling towards you on the freighter! That 1 swipe hit kept my heart beating fast till I got to the outside platform. 😬
I think you can justify this due to her losing her memories. I mean, she's essentially somewhat closer to a rule 63'd Roxas on this game.
I laughed. I laughed and I clapped.
Parasite eve doesn't change any characterization of Aya, it's explained in the story and having played the last games it makes sense thematically, if not narratively
Worst - birthday - ever!
Well tbf raven from the teen titans series had just as bad of a birthday.
I mean, what about Final Fantasy XIII?
Your comment is even funnier since Lightning got an Aya Brea costume in Dissidia 012.
@@stanleycrowley9333 XIII is actually a good game
@@jaredmartin7040 somewhere between boring and ok. Better than 10 and 12 for sure.
The scene with Kyle where you pointed out how weird his lines are, him speaking like a lover to a woman who has no idea who he is- my eyebrow just raised a little bit more with each line. It was coming off my face by the end.
It gets worse when you realize what the ending means for that scene in particular.
He’s voiced by Jensen Ackles though so that’s pretty cool 🤷🏻♂️
Creepy is an understatement
A Tetsuya Nomura game where Yoko Shimomura is carrying everyone? Yep, that sounds about right
This game did not deserve this soundtrack.
Yoko Shimomura is brilliant. Tetsuya Nomura has never been good at anything besides character design.
I mean, Nomura only did the character design for these games...
I feel Motomu Toriyama has just as much blame in this. He WAS the scenario writer and he always came across as a bit if a creep whenever he talked about Lighting from FF13.
Christian Lopez
Don’t forget the entire Fabula Nova series too. What even was Type-0... really?
This game gave me stage 3 Linkage
Terminal 7 Brain Linkage
@@pocketlint60 yeow
"The high ones" Yeah the people writing the story were the high ones.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea
High of burned ashes from the corpse of PE franchise they pissed on.
ELEVATED AS CELESTIAL ORBS
Lol
Wonder what they were high on.
There is a secret ending where Aya becomes Eves stand and she goes and another bizarre adventure called 4th Birthday: Let Mitochondria Eat Cake for PS7
I actually would like to see that game become a thing. But it'd probably be available for the PS5 or PS6
“This game killed Parasite Eve... and Aya Brea-“
ad, immediately: ARBY’S NEW MARKETFRESH WRAPS. WE HAVE THE M E A T S
LOL 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
hope they know advertising to the monsters and bosses isnt a good idea
Your waifu's dead, and she's never coming back.
Eat Arby's.
That one's on me @nihilist_arbys
*looking at this mess of a game for the 100th time*
Me (weeping): Look how they massacred my girl. Did it with them sensual moans too, the bastards.
We all know Square is far fast its prime...
This is all the characters they can write now.
While I do like the kingdom heart series I just can’t with nomura man he’s ok but sometimes he just needs to stop
They totally did Maeda dirty in this one. They took him from being like Hal Emmerich in the original MGS, and turned him into Professor Hojo.
Nooo, Cloud just cries not moans seductively.
Original, Crisis or Machinabridged?
@@Alice89chan yes!
@@Alice89chan I feel so... _conflicted._
Jesus Christ, he even looks like Hojo now.
3rd Birthday and Other M: ruining strong female characters that I loved.
I actually enjoyed Other M very much
@@sungleong Its okay to have bad taste.
At least we later got to see Samus again in Samus Returns and Dread. Hopefully the rumors of a Parasite Eve remake comes true.
Aya was already a fucked up character since the first parasite eve and not interesting at all, she became more badass in 3rd birthday than the overrated PE.
@@notmus bacod
When you can't just kill a franchise, you also have to first revert it back to a baby, then kill it.
Wasn't that the plot of Mother 3?
@@QuickQuips Wrong game. It was Earthbound that you do that. Mother 3 is a tragedy where you're friends die and an apocalypse occurs........yeah. it's a pretty sad game.
shadowlink Ah. Off by one. Thanks for the clarification. Been a while since I remember the series outside of Smash.
Ah.
Aint that how Deadpool killed Hitler?
The final little monologue is legitimately hard to listen to, not because it's bad, but because you can really hear the pain and exhaustion in Suzie's voice. The fact that this game was greenlit, written, programmed, animated and voiced in both Japanese and English without anyone stopping along the way to question whether it was in any way bad is mind boggling.
The worst thing about any bad executions of anything is the realization of why didn't anybody stopped to think about what they were doing at the time. Let me paraphrase a quote from a movie: "Your Developers Were So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn’t Stop To Think If They Should.'"
When you make a game with a female protagonist that makes Metroid Other M’s Samus look like Ellen Ripley by comparison.
And unlike Other M, this actually DID kill the franchise!
I'm terrible upset what a pity really
I won't lie I cried when they pretty much force you to kill Aya
Wtf?
the gane is even wost that i can imagine
You say Other M didn't kill Metroid, but we still are waiting for a new one...which may never happen at this rate.
@@stoicvampirepig6063 No, Metroid Prime 4 is still being worked on, but development was restarted with the original developers of the Prime series Retro Studios working on it. Since apparently the big N wasn't happy with the previous developer progress.
As someone who aspires to one day write stories that people can enjoy, it always pisses me off when things like this and Other M get made that just destroy good characters and worlds. I'm sorry that something like this happened to a series you held in such high regard. Maybe some day we'll get a team that loved the first two enough and reboot the series or make a true 3rd installment that doesn't just take a dump on everything that came before?
I love watching your videos. I can always tell just how much love and passion you put into them and how much you care for the series you talk about. Hopefully you can continue making them and I hope that you have a wonderful day!
The Dark Id, a let's player, gave his LP of this game the title "The Assassination of Aya Brea by the Coward Square-Enix." I've never heard a more accurate description of this game than that.
Painfully accurate
Classic situation where new director just given on silver platter a near-dead IP, a labour of love from others, given freedom to do whatever to it.
Game publisher, owner of IP, don't give a care. As long as it sells. If it flops, just pull a DMC, RE remake.
Thus final game is all about sex sells, gore sells, taboo sells, torture sells (game has souls-like difficulty).
Being true to the story, nah that's just a luxury we can't afford.
I would have called it "This is what happens when all of your talent leaves and all you have left is hacks Nomura and Toriyama" 😅
I have no connection to Parasite Eve or Aya in any way but seeing that ending even I felt insulted and offended in the worst way possible.
You know a horror game is bad when the supporting characters are more unsettling than the monsters.
I mean, that can be a good Idea as well.
@@PaladZerkGamerGF Now that I think about it that could be an effective element in a good horror game.
Sadly, 3rd Birthday is neither a good game nor a horror game now that I think about it.
lol
I mean, Vincent is the creepiest thing in Silent Hill 3, and that game is great...
@@wadespencer3623 Twisted.....They look like Twisted to you?"
I'm 15 minutes in and I can't help but feel like... why Parasite Eve for this gameplay idea?
Squad control and squad gameplay just is so antithetical to the first games story as well as gameplay.
The 3rd Birthday? I'm afraid I have no idea what you're talking about. There were only two Parasite Eve games.
Same here. Send it to the void of forgetting
Only two dino crisis games too.
This is the lie I keep living as well. I'm fine with it.
Just like how there were only two Dead Space games, haven't had a Duke Nukem sequel since Manhattan Project, and Resident Evil got a soft reboot after 5 ;)
I mean, I'm not gonna crap on you for it, it has strong and fun moments, but sweet Jeebus did it kneecap the franchise
I swear Tetsuya Nomura is just three thirteen-year-olds in a trenchcoat.
He is the true Organization 13, splitting his very being into several game development roles to spread his zipper-belt gospel.
@@itsybitsyusitka2170 He will unzip the fabric of time and space! :O
It's funny how everyone blames Hajime Tabata for everything wrong in this game, when literally all of the shitty elements were entirely Tetsuya Nomura's input, from story to gameplay.
Tetsuya Adultman Normura is doing a videos game business.
It's like Tetsuya Nomura is a complete hack and the only thing he did that was worth anything were monster designs for the earlier Final Fantasy games. Why he keeps getting put into high profile games is beyond me, specially after its raping of Final Fantasy 7 with its shitty "remake" (and i don't even care for for Final Fantasy 7 much at all).
Literally count Parasite Eve as one of my favorite games… 3rd birthday hurt SO much. I will never forget the legitimate rage I felt at the ending.
Was that a direct jab at me?!?!? You know I suffer from linkage!!
You have the worst LINKAGE out there!
If you or a loved one suffer from linkage you might be entitled to monetary compensation.
F.
Realism: When your clothes can get ripped off when you're in SOMEBODY ELSE'S BODY.
Don’t try to overthink it, the developers clearly didn’t. And when you realize that Aya with her clothes ripped off is basically an underage little girl in an adult woman’s body it just makes it worse.
That was the first thing that I noticed when I booted up this game. It's the one thing I couldn't get over. How is my thong showing when I dove into a giant male soldier?! I mean, unless that was his thing. Then I guess that's cool.
It's also made worse that Ayas Husband talks to the girl as a grown women and oh gosh it's terrible
@blackrave404 Sure, in some cases that could be justified, but again, Aya isn't even in her own body. She's in somebody else's at nearly all times. Her own clothes should be fine.
As for superman and supergirl, yeah, they should... but if I recall correctly, the reason they don't is because their invulnerability actually includes a thin force field around their body, nearly skintight, that protects their tight outfits as well as their bodies.
@@wadespencer3623 Superman’s costume (the main one anyway) is usually said to have been made out of the special, extremely durable kryptonian fabric used to swaddle him as a baby when he was put in the capsule thing that sent to Earth. It has gotten torn and damaged on a few occasions but as far as I remember that usually only happens when he’s fighting a really strong foe like Doomsday. I assume it’s likely similar for Super Girl and the other kryptonian characters.
So, Maeda, Aya's husband, and even the designers and programmers who implemented the clothing damage...
...have all been lusting after a child this entire time.
Good game, Square. Cool.
Ghost_Troupe I’m sorry but no that’s disgusting. If ur attracted to someone with a legit child’s mind.. just no. There’s no justification. I’m only talking about if ur still attracted to her AFTER finding out
This is unfortunately a topic our world is incapable of having a good faith discussion on, and yet another casualty of the Nirvana Fallacy. Like many a thought experiment, it would be nice if we could remove ourselves as people from our inculcated societal judgments, but as long as emotion rules the day, that’s unlikely to ever happen in a universe such as ours.
Too bad too, as if suitably removed from the judgmental characteristics of our overly Puritanical society, it would make for a good topic to hone debating skills on, as well as questions about emotional maturity versus physical, instrumentality, agency, and beyond.
@Ghost_Troupe Did you really just try to justify pedophilia??...
@@Soul_Removal Case in point.
While not quite a use of weasel words, you are going for the emotional appeal by sharply defining the terminology when no such need exists. Are we even talking about pedophilia, or societal views concerning such?
@@osurpless I've been reading this conversation. It got ugly in record time
That last segment where you talked about how much Aya meant to you as a role model was super powerful. I'm glad Parasite Eve helped prop up the self-efficacy of a generation of gamers even if the series ultimately did Aya dirty.
Turns out you're the new Aya. The Aya was inside us all along. :0
OMG what did they do to Maeda! I'm irrationally upset about this.
I stumbled across Parasite Eve on PS1 from a friend's yard sale. The first game was the most pleasant surprise of an RPG when I popped it in...but I'm definitely glad I didn't pursue any kind of payoff with the trilogy, yeech!
It is not really irrational to be upset that SE did our boy Maeda so wrong.
From a somewhat stuttering to a complete creep, not just Maeda tho almost all of the characters got a stupid 360 changes. What they did to Aya is the most unforgivable and a big fuck you SE by shooting her at the end of the game.
I never played the original games to a point where I saw him and I knew they had fucked up a classic character when I saw his scenes.
It's odd how similar to Hojo they made him look for this game.
Make an alt account if you're a youtuber and you want to comment. This looks like you're trying to leech
@@ProxyDoug Yeah, there's a lot of similarities there to Hojo that never needed to happen!
The Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the Eve.
@Barry, Where's Barry? Likewise!!!
@JillTheSandwich Yesh I'm listening to Angry Shuzhi
@JillTheSandwich Ik i haven't even played any PE games but now I wanna
@@BeggyBeggBegg did you play them yet? I have only played the first one so far and it was great.
It's the powerhouse of the Sphere. (?)
If they wanted a weaker protag, they should have chosen EVE legitimately... no twist. She's relatively unskilled (set this slider wherever you want for a different story) but let her borrow power/skill from AYA. Hell, let there be two protagonists and just switch between them. That makes for some fun level design.
Agree, the whole Team based combat should been more Final Fantasy Tactics than Whatever the Hell they were going for in this!
That would have been way better. Have Aya missing, and a teenage Eve and Daniel (or an older version of Ben) are looking for her while all hell breaks lose. All the while we see Eve develop into her own.
Can we just retcon the entire game into being just a fever dream so we can use this idea Instead? Please and thank you!
Also, Kyle technically said all that creppy stuff to Eve... hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
That takes creative effort.
Fun fact: The 3rd Birthday's bride and dive suite costumes were the source of inspiration of Nina William's default (with reduced blood) and story costume in Tekken 7. They even copied her pose in Nina's intro where she points her pistol like Aya did in her wedding
I thought it was a refence to the book The Bride which got adapted to Kill Bill
@@imthethriller That's probably the more likely reference, lol.
"Mature" is a term the gaming industry likes to toss around when they're afraid of being kink shamed.
TwilightWolf032 lol kink shamed
I dunno. "Kickass" and "jawsome" are words NetherRealm Studios likes to describe Millenia with.
TwilightWolf032 mature in gaming is short hand for tits and blood. Thanks Witcher
@@TheVolginator Witcher is actually one of those series that deserves its age ratings because these games actually have metured themes and sex is just one of them, also talking about sex it's done very maturely in The Witcher 3.
@@Milk-bi8mm which is the reason I typed Witcher 3, also other than the stupid romance cards Witcher 1 is also a very dark and matured game so yes deserves the age rating.
Running from the ultimate being still scares the hell out of me.
You mean running from Shadow the hedgehog?
Same here! Doesn't help that they put that schmuck bait phone at the start of the chase *just* to trick you into dying and having to replay the boss fight.
@@theoverlordofcats5511 Tbh he's not that ultimate.
It's weird seeing you here Dai.
Accidentally going down the dead end path and just being utterly fucked is terrifying.
For me, the Parasite Eve saga ended when Aya fired the last killing shot at the top of the Chrysler Building. She bravely climbed a tower of hell, completed her hero's journey, and went home as the saviour of New York City and a badass legend. Most importantly, she found true inner peace. "Let's go home, Maya. Let's go back for good." -- The End
I get extra emotional about this because I encountered this game when I was eight. After years of homelessness, I didn’t complete it until I was 26. It was like both of us got closure that night.
Parasite eve 2 was great though.
That art in the end of your video really shows that the character you admire so much truly was killed off in way you didn't like it.
Characters we truly love in games because of their development in the game make them truly beloved. So it's understandable if that ever happens.
Parasite Eve: A deep engaging game full of challenges, secrets, and compelling story. It had an ambiguous ending hinting at a sequel. I am eager to see where this is going.
Parasite Eve 2: Character game play is actually improved a bit. Buuuuut, parasite powers are over simplified, battles are boring, and story makes little sense.
3rd Birthday: WHAT IN THE NAME OF ZEUS'S THUNDERING COCK IS THIS SHIT!?
Put it away Zeus, you've done enough damage with that thing.
Parasite eve 1 to 3rd birthday is the most jarring change of tone in a sequel ever
Parasite Eve 2 was not boring. Parasite Eve 1 was
I disagree. Her powers in PE1 were more over simplified and one dimensional compared to the 2nd game, tbh. In the 2nd game, there was more strategy involved since some spells could miss and some were very useful for damage over time, stunning enemies or even knocking enemies back. Definitely more strategy involved.
3rd Birthday is wayyy better, better graphics, better enemies, better combat and everything better than parasite eve... I'd take 3rd birthday everyday.
An old Let's Play title put it best:
The Assassination of Aya Brea by the Coward Square-Enix
This game basically erases 99% of itself from canon with its ending. With Bohr gone the SWAT team never arrives to Massacre the attendants at the wedding. The Twisted never appear. And, there is a secret ending (4th birthday) that heavily implies that Aya (her consciousness) may still be alive.
So basically a Sonic 06 ending? 😂
I was thinking why don't they just make another game where she is reborn through fragments of memory left within some mitochondria cells. It would make a great sequel and I can think of a lot of ways where she can come back, either as a semi-final boss that turns good again to stop the bigger threat or as a surprise rebirth just in the nick of time to stop the player getting killed by the final boss. It literally writes itself!
Of course there is so if a 4th game was greenlit this flimsy ass excuse could be pulled from to include it as 'canon'. At this point a full reboot of the first game would be imo the best course of action. My fingers are crossed the reason Square gave Hunter so much shit about this video is because MAYBE they're working on something.
@@autobotstarscream765 Exactly.
@@wadejohnston4305 doubt it. There's a licensing issue with the author
"He wanted to make the game sexier"
*Makes the main character a literal child in an adult woman's body* Sounds about right for Japan.
other two chapters was created in Japan too.
Not sure, but I think it's similar to many manwhas: when something doesn't fit with story like Anya character is explain with flashbacks out of the blue.
Still... It killed the saga.
Makes me wonder if this was some sort of thing considering FF7 Dirge of Cerberus
"Ability activation in this game is based on random chance."
*Me:* _has Crisis Core PTSD flashbacks_
At least crisis core was enjoyable game play and story and character wise
@@deepmind5318 oh no the story crisis core doesn't have a good one
Its better then 3rd birthday but it sucks retconned a bunch of stuff changed the lore and placed a self incert character made to look, talk and even have a similar name to its counterpart ( singer g and genesis that's why the game was never rereleased ) at least dissidia is a little better as it isn't canon to anyone
ACTIVATING COMBAT MODE
@@Ramsey276one CONFLICT RESOLVED
HELL even the levelups are kinda random, what a trash system that game had
i know FF had slots somewhere in many games but adding slots to every combat was ughhhh
"1998, I'll never forget it"
Neither will Leon and Claire...
Neither will Gordon.
Regarding the wedding massacre: Aya and Kyle were on a target list of the government after PS2. So I guess that's the reason?
Also the reason why noone is talking about it is because noone played it. I remember having my mouth agape, literally speechless during the ending. It literally killed the franchise, but it was already basically dead and buried at that point. But as far as I know Nomura only did designs for the game so don't put this on him. The writer was a certain Lightning-obsessed producer who made sure Aya/Maya was voiced by Lightning's Japanese VA.
Between Aya in this game, Aqua in Kingdom Hearts and how prominent Lightning is in stuff like Dissidia, I think most of Square has a thing for Lightning.
i was literally saying to myself "dafuq is she trying to be, Lightning or something?"
It’s always been fascinating how much Square likes Lightning when everyone else is a solid meh on her. In a pantheon of great characters they really like pink haired drama llama
@@kindasomeviews I mean, if you completed this game a certain number of times, you unlock the Lightning outfit. Assuming you didn't already know this
Ironically, that voice actors name is Maya Sakamoto.
What a beautiful video and the final art of you holding her corpse glaring at the camera was just... *chef's kiss*
You said “Crossfire” multiple times without referencing that amazing 90s commercial?
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
CROSSFIRE- YOU CAN GET CAUGHT UP IN IT
All I could think about was the avgn video with CROSSFIRE! in it
CROSFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIREEEE!!
Crossfire.
Crossfire!
CROSSFIRE!
“You’ll get caught up in it.”
What I loved about PE1 was that it was a normal city, starting with Aya being a regular dude going to a play with her date, and then rats start to turn into monsters in front of her and we unravel the story behind how a completely normal setting got so insane. I feel like they completely forgot what made the first game so cool.
Parasite Eve 2 did something similar with the small town of Dryfield but it didn't have as much impact as seeing the disaster start from the beginning. 2 also suffered from not having a central villain like 1 did. Golem there just...didn't fit the bill. He always just felt like a lackey.
@@palladiamorsdeus 2 had potential but we didn’t get any of the fallout or threat as we did in 1, there was less human casualties we saw in 2 vs 1.
For example : in 1 we had to put Sheeva down even though she was a good dog before the mutation and we saw 2 human tragedies tolling into the thousands: the play at the Carnegie Hall and then the play attempt at Central Park.
The betrayal that those influenced by “eve” could had been set up greater. I don’t think we got a proper cut scene of one of the bad endings in 2 involving Kyle. And maybe more backstory on golem no.9 and why the facility existed in the first place.
_Everything has a weakness. Find it_
_Aya, you have to find and attack its weak spot_
_Everything has a weakness. Find it_
_Aya, you have to find and attack its weak spot_
_Everything has a weakness. Find it_
_Aya, you have to find and attack its weak spot_
_Everything has a weakness. Find it_
_Aya, you have to find and attack its weak spot_
_Everything has a weakness. Find it_
_Aya, you have to find and attack its weak spot_
when they said it twice in different way, that's already bad...
BUT THEN IT LOOPS
I really waiting for a game to subvert this trope. “We need to find out his weakness. I figured it out bullets is his weakness”
@@TNTITAN It's super weak to death!!
@@Razumen I play that game.
"Aya,try to remember the basics of CQC"
40:49
“Okay, guys; it’s time to talk about the twist...”
The soldier fighting the twisted beside you: “IS THAT A PUN?!”
Aya: We have to fix the timeline.
Eve: Wait, couldn't we just leave? And forget this all ever happened?
Aya: We HAVE. TO FIX. THE TIMELINE.
It's NO USE!
Now imagine a Parasite Eve where they implement a system similar to FFVII Remake where you slow time while using the menus, but its still fast paced action. I think it would be cool to play a Parasite Eve on modern consoles.
They renewed the parasite eve license like 2 years ago and Square has said that they've been working on a remake that isn't a Final Fantasy remake
@@justak2121 here is hoping this happens! Ty for the info
@@justak2121 I shouldn't be hyped, but my mitochondria tells me to!
There was a photo in FF7 Remake that aluded to Parasite Eve. It was on Jesse's mom house.
Idk man I used to be into trophy hunting well still am to a extent but couldn't finish at least yet anyway 7 remake. Idk playing thru it it feels boring especially if you try to get almost everything the first playthrough. Emulating parasite eve and xenogears on my Android phone and I'm having more fun emulating classic games more than my PS4 or switch that are basically sitting now (although I did try to get back into God of war 2018 which also bores the hell out of me)
Dear Suzi, "Basic Bitch Gameplay" might be my new favorite game criticism EVER. Thank you for that. I hope it catches on, cuz there's a LOT of games that suffer from it.
Shit is basic. *Nods knowingly*
I went on a journey to play through the Parasite Eve series and I fell in love with both games. I didn't want to play 3rd Birthday due to its reputation. A friend said I had to because I need to feel what everyone else did at that time....I never want to touch this game ever again. Everything you stated is exactly how I felt. Aya was such a cool character and this was such a betrayal.
Imagine a Parasite Eve with FF7 Remake graphics
But what about gameplay or combat? will they use the same one?
@@ryuuotaku35 just make it full survival horror with weird powers
Captain Butt I have some interesting ideas. I really want a remake
@@ryuuotaku35 FFVIIR's existing system would actually work perfectly with Parasite Eve, which was already a real-time/ATB hybrid. Club attacks for free, gun attacks at the expense of ammo, parasite abilities for ATB bars.
It's honestly too perfect.
I NEED IT
Oh my god, Suzi, thank you! No one ever talks about Maeda being turned into a fucking creep! It's the second worst character change in this game to me. He was my third favorite character in the original Parasite Eve, with Daniel being second for that badass moment he gets during the final battle, and Aya being the first because she's a badass super cop. I watched an LP of this game on Woolie's channel and I almost snapped my phone in half when Maeda got introduced.
Oh no, I can promise you we talked about it plenty back when this atrocity released. Its just most of us have tried to forget this abomination ever existed. And good god, there are people who try to DEFEND what Maeda was turned into. Its...ugh.
"how sweet your tears must taste"
>pause video
>dry heave
>resume
I'm researching Parasite Eve for an episode of my podcast (Retro Ridoctopus). My love for the original PE is worn on my sleeve as I'm known as Parasite Steve on the show. Unfortunately, I have no way of currently playing the game so I've been watching videos online to refresh my memory.
Sphere Hunter! I'm so glad I found your channel! Your videos and level headed unflinching honesty for these games is so refreshing. As someone who never played the sequels, my heart broke to see what became of Aya in this entry. All the love for the original though, always. Keep up the great work!
I actually cried when you said " Killed Aya Brea", my real name is an Omage to her.
I am sad ...
Seu nome é Aya?
Rip🙏
@@matheuscruz8574 Michelle *Brea* Soares
@@TwilightWolf032 I think she didn't have the "Brea" in her username before, that's why I asked
Remember when Aya killed a reanimated T-rex by punching explosions at it? Square doesn't.
"1998. I'll never forget it..."
Hol up, Jill?
I thought the same thing! Lmao
@@TheDerrogative y'know what they say about great minds
'Parasite We've: Character Assassination' sounds like a more apt title
33:15 Man I love it when Suzi just goes off on the NPC for being condescending. Roast them girl 😂👌
So it goes from a game about body horror, where only a single person is able to prevent themselves from bursting into fire or mutating into a monster because some crazy opera singer has a strong connection to THE POWERHOUSE OF THE CELL then you do, to existential horror where some woman from the future can randomly take over your body, using it as weapon against said monsters.
God does it suck to be a random person in that world.
BYtoady Nolastname is weird how your heroine use body snatching as technique, is the kind of stuff you expect from a villain.
I have had a growing sense for years that Square-Enix has steadily lost its grasp on why their most beloved games are beloved.
They have. Just look at anything they put out these days
@@omegawolfakali589 you know the worst thing? They did nothing to keep the people that actually understood it (Tabata).
After FFXIII? FFXIII-2: Lightning Boogaloo? FFXIII-3: The Return of the Lightning? FFXIV when it first came out? FFXV? KH3D ? KHIII ? FFVII but with better graphics and now it's a fanfic? Dissidia NTR (Get it? 'cause you're watching a franchise you like get fucked in front of ya).
Naaaaah! It all be in your mind.
@@MrLednard XV is very good. Though if its shortcomings are a turn-off, well can't really blame you, it's still a very good game, that could've been way better.
NT would've been fine if it had single player not locked behind multi... because tbh the gameplay there is also really good. But as I said... the lack of single player destroys any potential the game has.
And well... there is the XII port, but it's a port. T-0 is good, but it's a PSP game... though thanks to that XV went away from Nomura.
@@Alice89chan Oh fuck no. You need to watch something else for the story to start making sense. In a FUCKING Final Fantasy game. The turn based part is gone, which was the essence of Final Fantasy "Insert number" in the first place. And the MC looks like he sings K-Pop.
The opinions on this game are very divisive, but I'll stay on the "That's what Square Enix is now" hill, because fuck 'em
Dissidia NT would have been fine if it took what made Dissidia and 012 good, improved it, and removed assists and Lightning. But instead, it took what made those games good, threw it in a bin, tied what was left with thin rope and hide it behind an "Online" wall.
FFXII Zodiac Age is good, because FFXII was good, it is just a remake. Also, it makes the game a whole lot easier, your finishing moves allow you to completely steam roll any bosses, so it's just fucking dumb.
As for Type-0.... I heard about the game twice: First because avatars in Dissidia, second time because it finally came out of Japan and no one could play it properly during release because optimization is apparently not a thing for Square Enix.
So to me, it just does not exist, not in the sense that I deem it too bad to be remembered. But in the sense that the world outside of Japan got fucked over, so I do not care nearly enough to have the information that is this game's existence print itself in my mind.
Square were so annoyed with people asking for a sequel that they burned the entire thing down.
Sphere Hunter: ""Parasite Eve: The 3rd Birthday" was the most disappointing thing since my son."
And while my son eventually killed himself
Please don't bring RLM into this.
@@thekidfromcanada what the heck is rlm?
@@johnnybadmen3473 Red Letter Media, they do long reviews of Star War (and other films). Mr Plinkett is a character they do and he makes the disappointing son joke.
What an embarrassment.......
I never got into Parasite Eve but, as a long time Metroid fan I feel this. I'm so sorry they did this to Aya. She deserved better.
I was a fan of both.
I honestly feel this betrayed it's main character far worse.
At least you don't finish Other M by shooting Samus in the fucking chest and leaving her to drown in her own blood.
@@calemr That's true. But, at least the real Aya made an appearance in her game. (This is a joke)
PE1 and 2 are still some of my fav games of all time!
Didnt know about parasite eve till long after it was over when a lets play was recommended to me after watching some lore vids on resident evil. But yeah.she didnt deserve this ;-; the pain is very familiar to what that shell of a metroid game did.
@jose ramiro reynoso ruiz i agree. Yes the story is shit, but gameplay and exploration is so fun
This game makes Resident Evil Vendetta look like Schindler's List
It's funny because this was the game that introduced me to the series when I was young
I loved it for being so unique and sci-fi-ish
I'd never experienced a game quite like it
Going back and playing the originals however I see now where the complaints stem from
But third birthday still holds a special place in my heart for bringing me into the series
She literally talks about you at the end.
"Aya gets married and takes care of Eve, her ending is pretty dsolid, theres not much room for more"
Huh, they could have made a game with Eve instead
"There's a twist ending"
Wait a god damn second...
They could have leaned into the Resident Evil influence and had a game with Aya and Eve as dual protagonists trying to save Kyle from some Neo-Mitochondrian Cult who specifically kidnapped him to lure both of them to a remote location.
... damn it, now i kind of want an open world Parasite Eve game where you try and liberate an area from Neo-mitochondria cultists...
Motomu Toriyama was what drove most of this game's horniness, in interviews saying he wanted the player to feel like they needed to protect Aya in a similar vein the people behind the first tomb raider game reboot talked about Lara croft
Yeah but lara worked because most of the stuff she does can be done by a human and because she isnt too sexualized to the point of absurdity like this game
Also the game was good too
You don't protect WITH YOUR GONADS...
That's just BS EXCUSES
I don't understand what they were trying to do, PE didn't really need any kind of fanservice and if being horny just for the sake of it was the goal, a lot of other media do that better...
"As a scared little kid growing up in New York I found strength in characters like Jill Valentine, Claire Redfield and especially Aya Brea."
YES. While I am not from New York, very far from, seeing these badass women in video games growing up heavily influenced the person I am today. Aya Brea and Jill Valentine were my actual inspirations and I wanted to be like them so bad. Both of them have received absolutely awful treatment in games that came out when I was blossoming into a young woman and it devastated me. Perhaps it is over dramatic to say that it was devastating but these were my heroes; of course there were women in other games at the time but I was used to the precedent of seeing characters like Meryl Silverburgh or Tawna being saved by their love interest. While The Third Birthdays' OST was amazing I remember absolutely nothing about the game while PE1 and PE2 I can probably remember the game from heart. Sad really.
I remember as a little boy in California finding both male and female protags to be awe inspiring. Cloud Strife, Jill Valentine, Aya Brea, Regina from Dino Crisis, and so many more. I found the courage playing these games to stand up for myself, and not take the bullshit from anyone negative. Sure, I was still shy, but if need be, i could not hide behind someone. It's how I got my girlfriend later on in life.
I grew up seeing these women in video games, they are awesome, I really like the characters Regina, Aya, Jill and Claire, and the other resi character of course Leon and Chris.
It becomes suddenly annoying that the world wants to tell me I'm a misogynist because I'm not a woman lol, so I do find it funny how someone like me who played so many games as a kid, looking up to these characters, who has never had a problem with women, suddenly having a problem with women simply because of the weird assed political messes the world wants to get into for no reason, good job humans on creating the things you hated from something that was legitimately good.
It's why I don't bother with politics or the news anymore, it simply destroys what I see as good, or makes me dislike things I never had any opinion of beforehand, pointlessness at its finest.
Games are the best, and I love these older games.
you dont remember... how..... i remember every second of the 3rd Birthday.
you might wanna play it on insane difficulty.... it will force your brain to remember those OP twisted.
i died freaking 723 time (i will never forget this)
ok... jk jokes aside...
the 3rd birth was a good game... the story was down up horizontal left right vertical i admit that....
it was hard to understand the story sure............... but after completion of the game several times..... reading all the notes, secrets, document, bios, comparing dates and times and mastering the DNA board..... the game came out EPIC. I even cried of an eureka moment of what was happening to the story.
and yes... the OST was
*KISS* _so beautiful_ PERFECTION....
cmon... 3rd birthday was soo good my god.
@@ULTIMATEGOOSE01 now thats so true...
@@apophisca2163 Maybe it is a good game, but it isn't a good sequel. I came in looking to find growth in a character that was my literal hero when I was growing up. Third Birthday did Aya dirty. D I R T Y
I ran into a precarious situation with this game. Both me and my older sister are HUGE RPG fans and big fans of the Parasite Eve franchise. We both got the game at about the same time, but I unfortunately had a big back log at the the time and didn’t get around to playing it right away. By the time I was going to play it, my older sister reached out to me and recommended that I don’t. She essentially said that it was a bastardization of PE and that I will absolutely hate it. Let’s just say my sister and I see VERY eye-to-eye on a lot of things, so I trusted her judgment. To this very day, it just sits on my gaming shelf and I’ve never even opened it.
After seeing this review, I am certainly understanding why my sister told me not to play it. I would absolutely hate this. I don’t even know why they had to “make Aya Brea more sexy.” She was already pretty damn sexy from the first two games. The fact that they either completely discarded past characters or performed thorough character assassinations on them is incredibly disappointing.
I essentially just pretend the third game doesn’t exist. I cannot let myself believe that the creators of this game killed it off in such a travesty.
Oh yes Clones, Time travel and a needlessly complicated plotline. Definitely the hallmarks of a Nomura's Wild Ride.
Nomura went through a weird phase in the early 2010's. Timetravel and alternate universes are good concepts for a story, but if you add those concepts in a SEQUEL, the creator may as well say they give up. Please be good Final Fantasy 7 Remake sequels ; _ ;
@@chrisdaughen5257 so is it good so for....the FF7 Remake? I'm sure the beginning is great right.....until they reveal the big change to something important from the original. We know they not going to just settle for a plain ol remake. Lol
@@alvinpeterson1039 I think FF7R is slightly different. From how it ended, they used time travel to explain why the story will be different and include characters from the side games. BUT, if Cloud and friends end up time traveling for one reason or another, the plot will definitely fall apart.
@@chrisdaughen5257 ahhh okay. Yeah not sure how I feel about Time Travel in the story. Time travel usually just makes things worse with plot holes. Doctor Who and Avengers Endgame comes to mind lol. Seeing what SE has done with Parasite Eve doesn't give me good vibes. Lol
Alvin Peterson Or kingdom hearts 3.
They really turned Maeda into a simpy Hojo...
The game that basically took a golf club to their badass lead. RIP Aya Brea.
Good review.
At least it didnt physically do that. Unlike another series
> took a golf club to their badass lead
I see what you did there.
The 3rd Birthday needs a Thanos snap.
Nomura: "A good character designer and artist"
Also Nomura: "A not so good writer with a convoluted series he created"
Kingdom Hearts was a prime example to this.
Dracone1024 it isn’t though lol I like most of the kh games but nomura definitely doesn’t know how to tell a story that continues after one game only
@@okanoz1539 Which is weird when you remember that he directed Advent Children.
@@okanoz1539 I mean, you're not wrong. But KH fans love to make strawmen to counter any criticism.
And hes in charge of ff7 remake.....
Aya from 3rd Birthday: hey guys I’m-
Pe2 and PE1 Aya: “AW HELL NAW!!..”
Girl, that final photo of your character carrying dead Aya was actually heartbreaking....
Ok, I'm a thirty year old man and I shuddered in fear from that doctor's disturbing lines and excessive voice quivering.
If I remember correctly, they got Miranda Lawson to voice Aya. Imagine getting that kind of talent to play the protagonist in this dumpster fire.
3rd Birthday writers: The ending is like the final scene with The Boss in MGS 3, a culmination of the story and emotional pay off...
Also 3rd Birthday writers: Don't forget to ruin returning characters, make not-Aya sound like a hntai character, forget to write an entire arc that wouldn't make the ending work anyway...
I remember playing 3rd Birthday because of the first two games, there have been only few other games that made me feel betrayed and gross. Maeda might as well salivate and tip his fedora while talking to not-Aya
"Btw both games released in 2010, what a nightmare world it was back then"
Yeah..... BACK THEN
Wait a minute. Hold the hell up. Something ain't right
The bait and switch that eve was in aya body the whole time is kinda smart (i only said kinda) cause it explains her whole wimpy attitude, but
We are talking about the soul of someone who is probably less than 17 years old, innan adult body... that KYLE earlier in the video try to seduce saying the lines "i know your hair, your back, your lips" line cause he thinks she was his wife
Dude....that is.... screwed beyond words
Yeah it's super creepy, I don't know what the creators were smoking when they made this game
"Guess what? That game I like is getting a sequel after 10 years!"
"Great news!!"
"It's made by Tetsuya Nomura...."
"Oh my god, I'm so sorry!"
As a KH fan, Nomura's not that bad. 1,CoM and 2 are one of my favorite trilogies in gaming, and there are also other games in the series...
Wait,the other games...
Ok nvm fuck Nomura lmao
He is a great character designer, I do give him that. It's just he's horrible at everything else.
He went full Nomura in the ending...
@laz kar yeah I mean who even remembers cloud or sephiroth, squall, geno, or aya brea, jin, malos, ect.
@@posteriorpepperoni as a final fantasy fan, his shit