Rivendell Sam Hillborne Bicycle Build
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- Thanks to a blazing hot tip I purchased this Rivendell Sam Hillborne on craigslist. It was set up for a much taller rider who was on a bike that was too small for them. I broke the bike down and had it repainted by Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycle in Virginia. I installed mostly new components from Nitto, Paul Component Engineering, Brooks, Newbaums, Rene Herse, Velocity, King Cage, IRD, Silver, Crane and Tektro.
Backing track recorded by me: Backyard birds and insects.
Outro music: Bennie Moten's Kansas City Orchestra, "Small Black," Chicago, 1929.
Brass socket head screws from McMaster-Carr
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once i laid eyes on your creation bliss inducing waves that i world be able to ride for all eternity rose just over the horizon
This is a feeling we all need riding at the end of a long day with that last climb coming into view!
i bow before your eternal greatness bliss inducing nirvana has taken hold
I am merely mortal but I am trying to make some nice content, here. Namaste!
Thanks you for this wonderful soothing bike video. I love the crickets and your attention to detail. Looking forward to watching more of your videos!
Thanks, Paul!
Just beautiful. I have a Sam as well, but this is just special.
Thank you so much, Edwin! Enjoy your Sam
I just placed an order for a Sam with Rivendell, and now I'm watching and watching again the few videos available on UA-cam. Thankfully, yours is a beautiful watch.
a seminal work of incredible significance and will increase in value over TIME GOAT
Cheers to you for your kindness!
Dude! This is like a Riv Zen Meditation 🙂. Love it! Oh, and beautiful bike.
Some people have said ASMR, but I like RZM ☺️ Thanks for watching!
Is this the Bob Ross of bike builds?
That was just lovely to watch. And a gorgeous end product. Editing on point!
I appreciate the kind note and I'm glad you enjoyed watchin'. Thanks!
Nicely done!
Thanks, Russ!
I keep coming back and watching this masterpiece of restoration as I am working on getting me a A. Homer Nilsen 58 cm frame after measuring my PBH at 90cm..this is just great...you didi a great job with the filming and editing and the music is wonderful. I am certain I will be back to watch this video again, it is so relaxing. Cheers.
Thank you so much! Enjoy your Homer build!
The most enjoyable UA-cam video in a long time! Beautiful build.
Dang, thanks Dave!
so good Eric! Your monologue was just so good as well! Make more!
Great ASMR video. Love the bike.
Thanks for watching!
COOL brake toe-in hack using a rubber band around the leading edge of the pad. The brake levers are very nice. Likewise with the twine binder on the bartape. Magnifique!
Wow, thanks a bunch!
She's a beauty. Love the bars and saddle. Hate the pedals lol but it's your bike and I'm still very jealous
Thanks a bunch! Um, so sorry about the pedals. These are based on the classic Suntour bmx pedals from the mid-80s. Is there a pedal you think would look better?
@@ericmarth I don't have a specific pedal in mind. The bear traps just seem a little garish while the bike appears elegant. Hate is strong word lol but hyperbole is fun
Such a beautiful bike after your fantastic restoration!
Well made and super inspirational video!
Thank you for sharing.
Greetings from Sweden
Many thanks!
Beautiful build and such a calm, relaxing recording - thoroughly enjoyed it. A fun fact: I believe the Crane bell is pronounced ee-neh (as opposed to ee-nee as you said). In Japanese "ee-neh" is like saying "that's nice" or "isn't it nice?"
Thank you Julian, I didn't realize! I will start saying "ee-neh" ;)
The whole vibe here is beautiful.
Many thanks to you!
Beautiful bicycle 🚲
Very nice build.
Beautiful bike and video¡ Makes me appreciate my Sam that much more. And props on the haircut too...
You're like the Bob Ross of bike repair
Incredibly kind, thank you Antoine :)
Beautiful bike. nice job. You have an enviable shop and home as well. Living the dream!
Thanks for that! Cheers
Awesome build.
Beautiful countryside.
Top class build. Ditto for video production. Very classy comment section so all my questions were answered earlier in the comments thread.
Thanks, Philip! The comments have been quite surprising, glad they had you covered.
10/10 video bud! - Love the look of your place and your taste in bikes! Hope for more of your content in the future!
Oliver! Thanks, that's real nice of you to say. I've got more videos planned.
great watch, real cozy man. I always dug the black Hillbornes too, hopefully some day I'll have one.
Hey, thanks a lot! Take care.
A nice summer storm rolled in.
Great project! Thank you!
Hey, thanks! It's been a nice ride B)
That was a great watch! And you surprised me with your selection of music to close out the video. Clearly your sense of aesthetics is not limited to bikes.
Thanks Ken!
I really like your videos. They’re so relaxing and aesthetically pleasing. Just makes me happy.
I'm very glad to hear it, thanks for saying so.
Great video, I would love to see more of the shop at some point! Keep up the good work!
Great bike, great build and well presented, thank you! A small sidenote from an old german bike enthusiast: I allways rub new innertubes and inside tires with talcum powder. It’s the perfect care for rubber to stay flexible and „fresh“ for years and years. It’s the same „white stuff“ you notice on nearly every new innertube, talkum.
And stubborn new rubber grips slide easy on and off with poring some rubbingalcohol or windex between handlebar and grips.
Enjoy your ride!
Thank you so much!
I usually rub my tubes down with some fine dirt from the yard, I don't always show it in the videos. And sometimes I forget!
I'll try the rubbing alcohol trick. Someone even said to try T9 Boeshield chain lube!
@@ericmarth ya, give it a try, it works fine. A wooden stick (from BBQ is perfekt and doesnt scratch) between bar and grip and the alcohol does the rest. And to install new grips shake some alcohol in the grip and put it on. In Short time the Fluid is gone and everything is fine. No struggl anymore, 🍻
@@waldorfvonmuppet7399 Excellent, thanks again
A work of art. My heart aches for this bike.
Thank you, Twyla :)
Very calming. The bike turned out fantastic too.
It's been a fun ride. Thanks!
This video is fantastic. LOVE the build, the bike, the narration, etc... I'm insanely jealous of your workspace, too.
So nice of you to say, Ben. Thank you!
Beautiful build
Thank you for stopping by!
you have great taste in bikes and you're very skillful in building them, great camera work too. hello from Ireland.
Thank you, malachy! I really appreciate the nice words
Super Duper, cheers from Paris !
Merci!
Awesome job. Very nice video.
Thanks a lot, Nick!
Beautiful bike and beautifully made video
That's very kind, thank you!
Love your chill videos. Thank you.
Thanks a bunch, Greg, I'm glad you enjoyed.
Subscribed! Beautifully done! More adventures on this lovely machine please!
More to come and thanks for subscribing :)
I really enjoyed watching you build this bike!
Thanks for watching and for the kind note!
Bing did awesome work. Wish he was still in Richmond.
Yeah, no kidding!
Bravo bravo 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 video, music ,location, bicycle end only frame the is video its amazing 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻ciao da Milano italy 👋🏻👋🏻
Antonio! Grazie mille! Thanks for watching :)
this is my comfort video
That is very nice of you to say, thank you!
love your channel man. can't wait for more vids
Thanks a bunch!
The nicest seatpost ever!
I'm glad the flutes stay outside the seat tube. I've heard flutes on seatposts like this referred to as "raincatchers"!
This is really great! Thank you very much for sharing. You have a lovely shop setup. I enjoyed the stop frame parts coming out of the boxes. Very clear, informative video and voice over. : ) Enjoy!
Beautyful biuld and bike
Beautiful build! The paint job is impeccable!
Thanks so much!
You got lucky with that final train shot, huh? Very nice!
I really did. Thanks, Rick!
Nicely understated video, thank you 😊
Nice bike 😉👍🌻
Thanks for stopping by :)
Beautiful bike and video. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you!
I thoroughly enjoyed the build. Your narration was so peaceful. Thank you
Wow, thanks so much!
YOU ARE AN ARTIST !
Thank you!
Thank you for this video! I love my Homer that I bought during Pandemic Summer 2020!
All right! Homers are so rad, congrats :)
Lovely just lovely
Enjoyed the show. Thanks for the upload and enjoy your rides on a beautiful rig!
Bloody wonderful !
THANK you!
1983 O's! Sorry, couldn't help but notice the banner on your fridge. Nice build by the way.
Thanks, I love that banner.
A nice vibe.
What a beautiful video. Thank you so much. It is absolutely inspirational. Now off to do my own build!
Thank you! Enjoy your build and the promised rides B)
She's a beauty!
Hey, thanks!
Can't say anything negative about that build! Looks like a nice bike.
This is such a beautiful bike! Love it!
I appreciate it, Douglas!
Wonderful video and great bike! Finding a Riv on craigslist is such a score! Love to see you compare the bikes you have sometime.
Thank you so much Jon! A few months ago I thought I didn't know enough to compare the bikes but I'm getting a better feel. Maybe someday, thanks for the request.
Love your videos- please do more! Question: at 6:46 you’re installing brake pads and have a rubber band on the back half of the pad. Is that for setting proper towe in? Thanks!
Thank you, Dean! Yes, the rubber band is to create some toe.
@@ericmarth cool trick - thanks!
When you was trying to remove the old bottom bracket I was thinking to myself, clamp the BB in a vise and turn the entire frame. I seen it done that way and it seems to be pretty easy. I bet you felt like a million bucks riding that bike, it sure looked like it. 👍👍
Thanks a bunch! I think the bottom bracket tool and vise combination but didn't get video footage. Great suggestion!
On most spindle type BB’s you can use the crank bolt to hold the removal tool on, provided you can rig up some various washers to space it out correctly.
Great suggestion. I got a bottom bracket socket holder made by Pedro's after the video.
Beautiful work ! Love this video !
Thanks again Yansen!
Bravo. This is beautiful work. The video and the bike are one. Love how this is the opposite of most bike videos. Your voice and narration are so welcoming...and oh the crickets! By the way, the bike is stunning. I mean shellacing the bar tape! Anyway...I am planning on buying a Riv. Most likely a Roadini. Been in touch with them to get the frame as soon as available. Your work here is inspiring me. Thank you for this. Cheers.
This is all quite nice of you to share, thanks. And enjoy your next bike!
@@ericmarth cheers. I may have questions for you if that's ok! Ironically, I run a bike shop, but we don't sell hardly anything we would use for such a bike, ha! I'll be hitting up my suppliers while feeling like a newbie. Enjoy the ride. Would love to see further videos from you! Cheers
@@DirectorLJ Please let me know if you have questions, I'll do my best to help. And I'm planning some more videos, hoping to have something to share before too long.
bro, which country are you from? It seems very beautiful ..
Virginia, USA
How tall are you? Did you use your pbh for the sizing or did you use traditional sizing?
I’m 5-9 and I’m considering this 56cm Sam hillborne. I have freakishly long torso, I’m all torso with a 30 inch inseam. So my guess is I could make a 56cm Sam work?
Hi Maxwell. I jumped at the bike mainly because it was a real deal on craigslist and it just happened to work out for me. My PBH is 87cm and on most Riv models that puts me between the 54/55 and the 57/58 sizes depending on the frames.
For your kind of situation, given height, torso, inseam, etc. I'd suggest that you call Rivendell and see what they suggest for a size. They are great at answering questions like this and everyone there is fun/easy to talk to over the phone! They won't steer you wrong.
Sweet build! Great choice on components and everything aesthetically fits.
How did the original bottom bracket get removed??
Fantastic build! Keep up the great content :)
Thanks, Wubbiner! I'm churning... slowly
Fantastic, may we have another please?
No builds in progress at the moment, some day!
You've got good taste in bikes bro. They should bring back that black paint!! I have a Trek 750 MultiTrack from 1994 I bought on Craigslist, excellent condition. It's like a Roadeo or Homer, I'm guessing. Steel is the way to go. Thx for the content. I want to take a trip to Walnut Creek soon and ride all the bikes for a couple of days, I can't buy blind for $3500 new.
Thanks, Scotty! Your MultiTrack sounds sweet, how do you have it set up as far as bars and tires? Having a chance to try out some of the bikes first is definitely the way to go if you can!
@@ericmarth
Hi Eric, bikes are so subjective, but I will say this. I think the Trek Multi Track 750 is still a gem in the used bike market. Trek is my favorite old-school bike brand, and they outfitted the 750 with very solid components, not the best but still damn good. The MultiTrack line was one of the first "hybrid" or "gravel bikes". Adjusted for inflation in the 1990's the bike would cost between $1200-1400 today, so it was an expensive bike-shop bike then and most owners took very good care of them which is why they can still be a good value today. I bought mine last year from the original owner, and he replaced the grip-shifters and handlebar and put on Oury grips when he took delivery in 1994 or 1995. The handlebars are like the Nitto Wavie that Riv sells. I dont think the bike was ever ridden, but it was well-stored and maintained. The tires I've used so far have been Continental Ride Tours (cheap tire, but so far so good) and Soma Shikoros which I bought from Rivendell. I'm not a bike expert or connoisseur, but riding this 750 has been a great experience. It was the first bike I road with 700 wheels. Its the most expensive bike I've ever ridden (in 90's dollars), best quality frame and components. It's fast as hell, it feels so solid. If you see one for sale in your area you might want to check it out, it should be lighter than the Hillborne & Appaloosa. And it will fit a 45 tire. I think their values will continue to rise as well. (I paid $600 for mine in NYC during the bike-craze-shortage in 2021, you can get them for less though. The owner was 3 subway stops away from me so I could not pass it up.) Is it realistic to hope to find a 30 year old bike in good condition that fits you? Maybe not. Rivendell is kind of a custom bike shop, I think they're still worth the money.
Did you use elastic bands around the brake pads to help toe the cantis properly?? Genius if so, I'd never considered such a simple hack!
Yep, just something I picked up from the Calvin Jones / Park Tool vids, I think.
This is so good...great video and great build...I was wondering what is the reason for putting a little dirt on the inner tube during installation. Cheers and got yourself a subscriber.
Many thanks! I put a little dirt or chalk on the tubes to keep them from welding to the tire casing.
@@ericmarth thank you for the response and this is genius...I will start utilizing this method on my future tire assemblies. Cheers.
I'm going to remember the split ring pliers next time. If I can remember where I left them🤔 I'm not as organized as you, lol
They're definitely handy, I got the tip from Russ at Path Less Pedaled, who got it from RJ the Bike Guy. And cheaper than the official handlebar tool from Nitto.
Beautiful!!
Thank you, Frank :)
Yellow bandana... form or function?
Eric - great video - out of curiosity what spindle length bb did you use with that Sugino triple? Thx.
Thanks, Guy!
Okay, my memory was a little fuzzy so I had to look back into my records. When I got the bike it had the Sugino triple you see in the video and a Tange bottom bracket with a 107mm spindle. This sounds very short to me but that's what was in there, I still have it in my parts bin and I just looked at it to double check.
I replaced the bottom bracket when I built the bike back up and my purchase records show I ordered a 107mm and then a few days later I ordered a 113mm. I vaguely recall trying the 107 and it didn't fit - the inner ring bottomed out on the chain stays. I remember grumbling and ordering another almost immediately.
I've since removed that Sugino and I'm running a Sun XCD double with 42/26 on the same 113mm bottom bracket and I have about a millimeter of clearance between the chain ring bolts and the chainstay.
My Hillborne was manufactured in 2009 and the Sugino is an XD2.
I hope this is helpful. Take care!
Thanks so much, Eric!
@@guylevan91 Cheerys, Guy!
Why shellac the tape?? That is new to me.
The build probably costed more than the bikes price tag, Right? Don`t get me wrong, it's a beautiful build! I personally would had done way less changes. specially the handlebar, the original looked so cool!
Thank you! I definitely went in for some nice components. I decided to set this bike up with drop bars because I have two other bikes with swept-back, upright bars. The bars I removed are Nitto Albatross bars (the first version, at 56cm), which I have one of those other bikes. They're great! I was looking to set up a super comfy bike with drops and, well, that's what I got!
Very cool!
Chill video dude
Thanks, Vipe. Peace!
Very well done! The video and bike, both. Appreciate the chill, low
key approach. Think maybe bikes can reflect their owners' personality?
Wishing you many happy miles at 'PartyPace' hah
Thank you, Cameron
Very well done. Great all rounder. Especially like the Tuxedo color combo; classy.
Nice score on yours and an excellent build.
What is your opinion of the Herse Tires now that you have some miles on the bike?
I have a Rivendell Hunqapillar and my wife has a Cheviot. Great bikes and company.
I have wanted a Hillborne for some time, maybe next year.
Thanks for the video.. from So Oregon.
Hi Jeff, thanks for writing and I'm glad you enjoyed the video and build.
I do like the Herse tires, comfortable, nice traction. And I appreciate the way they look. I run them around 37psi with tubes. I've had two flats over the past year but both followed crashes.
I'd love to ride a Hunqapillar sometime, that's very sought-after frame these days!
@@ericmarth Hi Eric,
I am on the Rene Herse news letter list and frequently get updates about their tires. Their tire accomplishments with long distant riders is impressive. Currently I am using Schwalbe.. I am looking for toughness and grip in a tire as I mostly "explore" which takes me to all kinds of terrain.
So Oregon (I am in Jacksonville) has every, and any, kind of road and climate.
My Hunqapillar is a 2011 , I believe that is when I got it. It is the original elephant grey and kidney bean red single top tube.. with 700C wheels. .. dirt drop stem with Nitto Noodle bars and of course a Brooks saddle. It still looks like a new bike. My PBH is the same as Grant Petersen's so it makes ordering easy. The SAM may be next. Can't have to many bikes.
Crashes, ah yes, crashes. Two kinds of riders.. those who have been down, those who are going down. I've been down so hopefully my future is clear.
Looking forward to more of your videos.. Liked and subscribed.
Keep the rubber side down. From Southern Oregon AKA The State of Jefferson
PS Some of my other bikes are
1981 Miyata Aero Pro much modified...Bought new.. it is my "crash test" bike, hence the occasional remodels .
1983 SOMEC.. somewhat rare.. pearl white over chrome, blue pinstriping, pantographed. All Campy Now putting it back to EROICA specs.
1992 GIANT CFM III their first intro of a Carbon Framed Mt Bike with alloy lugs. Bought new
Mint.
1992 Specialized Epic Alley,, also a first in Carbon. I am gifting this to my grandson...too techno for my taste. Another near mint bike with a bit of history.
These two bikes are unique so I kept them but they both cured me of Carbon . I much prefer Steel.
This bike is so beautiful. I try to built from a Cinelli bike from 2022 a vintage one and I asking you , where do you bought this browned coloured hoods? They will fitt to my honey coloured Brooks B 17 saddle and my leather bar tape.
Thank you, Sven.
The levers with the brown hoods are Tektro TRP RRL SL levers. As of today (27 January 2023) they are in stock at Rivendell and directly from Tektro. Sounds like a nice match to your honey saddle and leather tape!
@@ericmarth Thank you for answering, this was very helpful.👍
@@sventhomsen7759 Good luck with the build!
Thanx!
Why dirt on the tubes?
Very nicely done on both the build & the video, may I ask what were the new pedals you put on?
Thank you! The pedals are MKS XC-III "bear trap" pedals. Ocean Air Cycles, Blue Lug and Crust sell them. Probably a few other places, too! Riv has had them in the past.
Awesome videos! My wife and I are currently looking at trying to get ahold of a Riv. However, we are so confused as to what each model is intended for. What’s the major difference between the Sam and the Appaloosa?
Thank you, John!
Differentiating Rivendell frames can be a bit tricky especially if you're only going by the descriptions on the website, which I think are confusing.
The major differences between the Sam and Appaloosa are tubing (Appaloosa is stouter and can carry more weight), maximum tire size (Appaloosa can fit bigger tires), wheelbase (I believe the Appaloosa has a longer wheelbase than even the longboard (and most recent) Sam Hillborne bikes). Both frames take V-brakes or cantilevers and work well with drop bars or swept back bars.
I'd say that, generally, Rivendell makes four categories of bikes: Road, country, all-around and hillibikes.
Road bikes: for riding unloaded primarily on pavement. Though a skilled rider could push it on trails without tons of chunk as the newer Roadini will fit a 42mm tire without fenders. Designed for drop bars or bars that don't sweep back a ton (albatross, albastache).
Country bikes: for riding roads, not insane trails or road touring with up to 40 lbs. General all-around riding. And I've found good road bikes. Perhaps similar to randonee bikes as they fit big tires with fenders and can carry some weight and still handle well. A. Homer Hilsen and Sam Hillborne. Also seems to me the Platypus mixte also fits this category. These fit tires up to 48mm without fenders, I believe. All take V-brakes or cantilevers. Comfortable with drops or just about any swept back bar. Caveat: I've yet to see a Platypus with drop bars.
All-around bikes: These are for touring, trails and all-around riding. These frames have stouter tubing than the country bikes and fit larger tires (up to 55mm+ without fenders). Designed to carry up to 55lbs of loaded up stuff. The Atlantis and Appaloosa are functional clones of one another, both take V-brakes or cantilevers, both fit wide tires. Paint color is one difference. The other is that the largest sizes of the Atlantis are built with a double top tube. Comfortable with drops or just about any swept back bar.
Hillibikes: these are rigid trail bikes (no suspension). They are stout, with low top tubes (good for jumping off in a hurry) and built for wide tires. The Clem takes a tire up to 2.4", the Gus and Susie take tires up to 2.8". These bikes can also be loaded up to 65lbs.
There are other models that they currently make but this covers the broad mainstay bikes. There are also a lot of bikes they've done in the past that are out of production that fit the categories above (Rambouillet, Hunqapillar, Legolas, and lots of others).
The 2018 frames catalog does a good job of describing the differences and intended uses for the bikes: notfine.com/rivendell/Catalogs/Rivendell%20Catalog%202018%20Frames.pdf
As far as my riding goes I ride the Hillborne mostly on pavement with drop bars. Ride it a lot on weekdays when I'm going out to ride for a few hours just to ride. If I'm doing a 75 mile paved ride I will take the Hillborne. It's set up with drops and has plenty enough zip for me. It certainly feels faster and more responsive than the Appaloosa. This bike could be set up with bags and racks for touring, commuting and hauling groceries.
The Appaloosa is my everyday errands bike and I've got it set up with racks, bags and a dynamo hub in the front. I love riding this bike in the mountains around here (doing 35-50 miles plus 5,000 feet of climbing). I run 55mm tires which are comfortable on unpaved country roads. It's a real plush riding experience and always fun to ride. I attribute that all to the super wide wheelbase and the large tires. I've ridden this on trails that aren't super technical, too.
I hope this is helpful! Thanks again.
@@ericmarth it has been super helpful! I think my main problem is that, as a bigger guy pushing 285lbs, I worry about getting a bike that I won’t break or wear down quickly. As far as what you stated and Riv states as the intended purposes of the bike, the AHH and Sam H. are what I intend to do: all road (mostly paved, some light dirt and gravel) and the occasional credit card tour. I ride most for fun or a short commute.
I’m just worried about me being too big for those frames and tube sets which is why I would opt for custom I think. If that is even doable for those frame sets.
@@johnburrow4124 As far as I know they do custom frames that are made in the US with very long lead times (over 1 year).
If you're curious about your weight and their frames I would just call them up during regular business hours. Everyone there is super helpful and friendly and someone could certainly answer your questions about frame limits.
@@johnburrow4124
They'll probably recommend an Atlantis with strong wheels. I think they dropped the Appaloosa model since the Atlantis is made in Taiwan too.
wheres the updates dude, great editing man,
Thanks, Keith. I have a video pending