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My Response to the Nine Club and Chris Haslam
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
- A few days ago, Chris Haslam was on the Nine Club. It was a good interview, and it's worth watching. But they brought up a video I made and insulted me for making it. This is my reaction.
Here's the original video: • Does Chris Haslam CHEA...
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Just got a personal apology from Chris Haslam about this whole thing. He seems like a really genuine guy and I felt really good about where we left it.
Guest soon?
Good to see my boy Radrat getting the respect he deserves.
but chris didn't said anything bad about you.........
@@bennypaddycake7182 Just shows how genuine Chris actually is - just apologizing for the whole affair.
That is some cool shit!
The irony of a judge calling someone dorky for analyzing a trick, then proceeding to take part in a several minute discussion analyzing said trick is hilarious.
Ironic not for while he does that and we ALL know he is a skate nerd, he does NOT go that in depth with the tricks.... Swing and a miss.. Also they never seen the guy so I feel like they used nerd NOT in how he looks which yes (he does fit a stereotypical nerd before this GLOW UP I see going now; not that it was bad before) and so ppl see it as that, a appearance attack. That is even more lame or what ppl use Nerd as a insult for. I think ppl think they saw him and went for a appearance attack or some shit rather than what was done. Hell even Roger is a skate nerd...
Kelly has a way of piling onto conversations to kind of go with the general consensus. He does it a lot and I find it to be one of the more annoying things about nine club. He just has a very specific personality that tends to seek for agreeableness over every other trait. Years of being the sacrificial lamb in the form of a verbal punching bag will kind of do that to you too lol
@@KQKQ23 it’s called growing up in laguna beach being an amateur skateboarder his entire career while wishing he was really part of the cool guy club … most mediocre skate career ever
@@PeepGamePopoff probably due to his personality unfortunately. Dude rips but he’s just kind of kooky.
@@PeepGamePopoff haha yeah? And where are your clips dude. Big talk for a man behind a keyboard.
I don't understand how nine club could hate on you? You're the most real skater on this platform. I don't know a single IRL skater friend who doesn't love your content. And those old trick historys are the best out of all of them. I wish you could make more!
couldnt agree more.
Ironic when we all know kelly hart is the biggest goof in the skateboard industry. Biggest manchild ever.
A lot of older skate boarders are immature some of them are slowly growing but the tool bag group think culture still exist.
@@timothybellette8434 atrazine is real. Chris Robert's drinks it from the tap
yep :)
The Nine Club is all about diversity and acceptance...except when it comes to a difference of opinion, then they make fun of others while Eldridge sits there and goes on lectures about anti-bullying. Brush it off Radrat, we all know you the man.
Who’s getting bullied?
What? It's a skating podcast.. They have varied guests because they're skaters not because they're trying to win Twitter clout..
@@drumboarder1 they have a desperate "guest is always right" philosophy
Eldridge is just regurgitating the latest woke idea he's heard
@@inkusaido that is true, Chris used to be sarcastic in the beginning and now they just suck everyone off
I was just countering the "diversity" buzzword claim
Kelly Heart calling another man a dork. Ough,the irony in that one.
Did you really just spell oh “”ough” ? Wtf
@@GSTACK57 Ough. Different sounds then oh.
@@GSTACK57 Like a comic book *POW* *KERFOOF!* *OUGH!*
@@armin38822 never once I’ve I seen “ough” lol is it like oof? Or something lol
@@GSTACK57 You're making fun of somebody for not being lazy?
The fact that rad rat doesn’t backpedal or contradict himself in anyway shows that this response is a genuine explanation
I back that!
I'm burning my nine club sweater.
Scroll through the comments and you’ll see CROB gave an alright apology kinda sorta.
Nah, Rad Rat fans always quibbling over some dorky technicality, it's boring, no one who rips wastes their time on this stuff, especially without the self-awareness to realize how dry and nerdy (in the worst way) it is. For people who no one knows about or cares about to comment about Haslam, and how he is 'cheating' a trick', without a shred of irony, is entirely absurd. The big Karen energy of criticizing a master when you are a novice is going to rub any pro the wrong way. "Cheating" and "Haslam" were put in Rad Rat's title or description of the video in order to get more clicks and views, just because it's standard procedure click bait on youtube doesn't make it any less cynical or rude. He got smacked down, deservedly, and now is crying like a baby and quibbling some more.
@@willisryan4576 1000. 🍻🙋♂️
That’s very lame of them but the people know RadRat’s the realest!
For sure got most of my skate wrinkles from this man put some respect of his name! 😤
May be rad rate shouldn't utilize xlickbait if he don't want the heat
No its not! Get with the context dude...
@@BoleDaPole exactly!!! 100%
@@BoleDaPole nine club should do their research before speaking about something, they run a business after all totally unprofessional.
We need a RadRat Nine Club visit.
He’s banned he’ll need be on the 9 club
@@suburbia8831 huh?
I didn’t see this but I did see you get a shout out in the new vans video. Either way you got my support. Much love
Yeah they got me on a Zoom for that. It was fun! This, not so much.
@@RadRatVideo Publicity is publicity my man. Some people wish they would get mentioned on the nine club. Oh,and people gonna be on your side on this one.
@@RadRatVideo Please share a link to that video! I want to see you!
Yeah drop that new Vans video link!!
What Vans video?
I don't think the nine club or Kelly hart were specifically targeting you, just the people who actually criticize Haslam for "cheating" at laser flips. They might have mentioned your video title but it's not like the title was very specific, so it is understandable how they could've mentioned it without even knowing the video existed. You have to admit the way the title is phrased is very common place on UA-cam. This coupled with the copious amounts of keyboard warriors on this platform and you can understand how Kelly Hart can say what he said and not have even watched your video. To be honest I wouldn't think there is enough connection to warrant a response but I could see why you would want to make one.
Well he did call him a fucking dork lol
Have a look on UA-cam man, try and find another video with the same title. They were referring to him.
@@N_e-d how do you know they watched the video though
They didn’t watch it. That’s the point. What they saw was the title. They had a dig at Rad Rat based on that. If they’d watched the video they would have known that he came to the view that no, Haslam doesn’t cheat.
@@N_e-d exactly bro it was kind of heat of the moment, and they thought it was hating on haslam so they were sticking up for him.
Really? Kelly Hart??
REALLY??? 🤣🤣🤣
Pro skaters stop punching radrat challenge (impossible)
Radrat is exactly the kind of guy that makes UA-cam awesome. Aweaome and authentic amateur content that connects with enthusiasts on the ground level. Keep it up man!
all hail radrat!!!
I love to see tricks getting broken down without the mystique. It reveals the real techniques behind things and makes it all so much easier to learn when you know the real deal.
The 9 club has the tendency to be over supportive of their guests, rather than looking at certain topics objectively and critiquing things, like you do. Kelly, being a skateboarding super fan, is especially guilty of this, even more so when the guest is someone he admired growing up.
They clearly haven't watched your video and probably don't know who you are, so I wouldn't take it too personal.
I feel that. They don't really like confrontation or arguments with their guests while the show is running. Id like them to all be more objective...I feel they all are too nice. I also don't think they are mean and bully others in any way.
This is Gifter Haters reason why he started a channel. Skateboarding needed a little sarcasm.
Rad rat is a treasure to the skate community, the 9 clubs are out of touch
I don't watch nine club. I watch Radrat
But man, you gotta give credit to the Nine Club for proper interviews with the legends. And some of them passed away (Grosso, Huf...) , so that material is important. I hope they'll just get into things that are going on on another side of the industry and that they discuss more deeply before judging.
@@zibel5007 I see where you're coming from, however the Nine Club rarely ever truly interviews people in a honest way. They usually just talk crap about someone behind their back, but when they get on the show they pretend like they never gave them crap. Best case in point; all the Andy Anderson hating (mostly about the helmet and 'weird' tricks) versus the few interviews / appearances he had. It's why I really can't take the Nine Club seriously anymore.
@@PHeMoX Agreed. But I would like to add something. In my opinion the 9 club is more like an "elitist" club. Their sorta like "If you're not bad ass enough or good enough or cool enough you can't be on our show/hang with us" There's a reason it's called the 9 club. This is a solid example of that for sure. Also there used to be a skate shop I went to but their pretty elitist too if you're not skating 6 sets and stuff they don't give you respect in the shop so I went to a different shop where they have more respect. I swear some skaters out there are unbelievable toxic towards other skateboarders.
@@lca89 yeah dude. There is now a lot of “jocks” in the skateboard world. Sometimes when I’m watching the 9 it feels like I’m standing outside in the cold looking in a window while the Nine clubbers are inside having a frat get-together.
Don’t take it so personal dude. I had no idea they were talking about you, they clearly took your video out of context. My impression from Kelly at the time of watching the nine club episode, it felt to me like he thought someone (you) was directly calling out Haslam for being a cheater (which I would also think is lame). You clearly have a passion for skateboarding like a lot of us and I enjoy your content!
Finally a civilized person 👏🏼 everyone else in the comments are haters lol 9 club is Radrat is cool done peace out
@@cesarmoore7996 the shots fired is way more fun
@@galvanizedgnome for immature jerks sure
That's the problem though, they do that in a lot of interviews or just content reviews. They don't seem to give a lot of shit about content or context.
@@cesarmoore7996 I'm a skateboarder. I resemble your accusation.
Love you brother. Been a huge fan and supporter for over 4 years. Keep doing you!
lmao those dudes sound corny. keep doing you radrat
Oh he was talking about you? Truth is, we were actually reacting to Chris telling us a story about an unnamed person who called him out. It could have been Frank Frankenson from Indianapolis for all we knew haha! Keep doing your thang RadRat!
put him on
Thanks CROB. Apology accepted. Much luv to everyone!
You guys knew exactly WHO you were talking about.. But, i dont necessarily think any of your comments were unacceptable..
Ol' kelly tho....
It is what it is, nobody should be getting upset over words!! I get what RR was saying.. But, IMO, it doesn't matter how you kick the board.. A kickflip is a kickflip... Just bc you might kno a cheat code to do an easier or better looking kickflip doesn't change the trick!!
Now, if the trick changes... Then obviously its a different trick!!😎😎
@@memorysometimers3067 He didn't apologize
Oh so you pick and choose who you disrespect gotcha
This is very well addressed. I get the feeling the things they said were mainly directed at the idea of people saying Haslam IS cheating, and if they were specifically thinking of you, they definitely hadn't watched the video and made an assumption about you.
I hope they catch wind of this video and realise the error in their judgement if it was directed at you. I do think those dudes generally make an effort to demonstrate all the good parts of skateboarding culture and they're not about divisiveness and putting others down.
this is pretty much my exact response
Note To Self:
This.. This is how you summarize what's going on. Don't come off unhinged going all in on people like I did. Especially ppl reaching who are actually pretending the Nerd word is actually like the other word that starts with a N... That's the reallllll "N" word nowadays apparently guys 🤣🤣🥴😬 That' was lightwork for what they were lead to believe was the case.
@@cyberinsurgent9910 Hah, just wanted to say something even-handed because I enjoy both Rad Rat and The Nine Club a lot.
You are wrong! This is waaaaaaaarrrr!
Knowing the 9 club and everybody involved they won’t give a fuck a ride off the extra publicity from this so….
People in theses comment are crazy. The 9club does not hate this man. That is stupid! I get that he felt "attacked" but he really wasn't. So stop all the hate dudes.
I appreciate that you touched on the clickbait aspect of it. Putting CHEAT in the title is a good way to get people to watch your video, but can be misleading to anyone who doesn’t actually watch it.
...what, were you expecting an actual way to cheat? Maybe grow a brain and know what you're clicking on lol
Haslam sounds like a great guy, and he didn’t owe you an apology at all, he never insulted you. Kelly had no idea he was even talking about you, he was just making fun of the phrase “does haslam cheat laser flips” which is understandable because there is no such thing as cheating in skateboarding (except in a game of skate)
Amen
Exactly. The title was a reach & making a video like this only gets people more in their feelings.
People reacting to the title of a video instead of actually watching it. Lol what is this face book?
Hey man I hope you don’t take it to heart. I give you a lot of credit for the thoroughness of your research and for providing a resource for those who want to learn more about skateboarding and it’s history. That said, I’m 41 and started skating in ‘87, so I’ve lived through and experienced firsthand a lot of the eras you’ve researched and one thing that’s missing is an appreciation for the way the skate community has changed and evolved over the course of the last 30 years. The guys on the Nine Club are from an era where shit-talking was just a part of the culture and the Internet wasn’t a platform with its own distinct skate community and culture. Notice that on their show they speak of people like Aaron Kyro and Johnny Giger as almost outsiders to the skate culture they’re a part of. There’s been a shift happening for a long time now and your legacy as a contributor to skate culture will be remembered fondly by the many you’ve stoked out with your content. And in another 20 years you’ll still love skating and may feel disconnected from whatever’s happening in 2041! In the end skateboarding is a life-long love so just savor it and let the negativity evaporate.
Yeah, just watched the Nine Club vid and I don't think they've seen the actual video. They are just baffled by the title.
I can appreciate your level headed informative response. As for Kelly Hart calling you a dork... That's the pot calling the kettle black if I ever heard of it.
Kelly looks like a dork😂😂
He never called him a dork, kelly doesn’t even know who he is lol. it’s like no one actually watched the original video for context.
@@Basedpierogi, he literally says "fucking dork" in the video.
@@axel.lessio “dorks” plural. Haslam brought up the title of that video, Kelly was literally responding to the concept of that title and the people who legitimately care that he “cheats” his laser flips. Did you watch more than the two segmented clips that were put in this video?
Put it this way, I've skated my whole life. I'm 30 now. After going through all the major skate channels on UA-cam, this is the only one I still watch. Fuck 9 club, fuck Braille, fuck skateline, fuck any channel that isn't doing it independently, from home with no corporate sponsorship or direction. That's what UA-cam is about.
I still remember the days before UA-cam channels had huge corporate money behind them and they were better days. Thank you Rad the Ratboy for keeping the spirit alive.
Kelly shouldn’t have called you a dork but to be fair, Kelly and the nine club crew didn’t know who Chris Haslam was talking about. I think Kelly’s comment was more geared toward all of the trolls and a**holes on the internet these days who just like to hate on other people.
If you really know about the nine club you know they would never throw anyone shade. They preach nothing but respect and being kind to one another.
Didn’t seem like respect lol. They were just talking out of their asses basically.
@@TheReflecter they were hating on haters, and he was reacting to the click bait title of a video he hasn’t seen. If you watch 9 club Kelly is a super supportive guy and probably the biggest skate nerd/fan there is. They even poke fun at it on the show. Those guys aren’t haters at all, when the topic of Braille comes up they don’t even call those guys dorks when they’re the biggest dorks in skating. Most UA-cam skate vloggers are dorks but I don’t think they have much exposure to it, they’re more in the world of the core industry.
Jrtrashman I don’t think they’re full on haters. They shouldn’t of been generalizing and making assumptions in the first place that’s why I said they’re basically talking out of their asses because they’re commentating on a video they haven’t even seen. Every podcast is guilty of this.
Sometimes people react that way in order to show they are defending someone. Hart probably hasn't seen the video, it looks like he was annoyed that someone would accuse Haslam of "cheating". Hopefully just a misunderstanding. And, if not, who cares, keep doing your thing.
I think this is accurate. Analysing the clips of a skateboarding pioneer from years ago would ve been no problem at all, if it wasnt "just" to find out if he was cheating. Its about the accusation not the actual video.
I don’t think they personally attack you, it seemed like there was an anonymous person on SLAP talking shit on haslam and they were just defending his boy saying it’s not a big deal. A lot of slap guys ARE dorks finding something to hate on.
I think if Haslam would’ve mentioned you by name and gave more context, stating that another skateboarding UA-camr who does a lot of analysis and history type of content it would’ve gone differently. They do talk about negative comments and haters quite often and how you have to brush it off, until i saw this video i assumed the same thing. Now that i know it’s rad rat i see it a little different but it wasn’t personal.
did u respond to the response to this video on their live stream?
My 2 cents on this: Nine club is an informative entertainment podcast. I for one think it’s biased a lot. I like(d) the positivity on almost every topic, but that got a little stale. I would like them to talk more about controversial topics, like biased or intransparent scoring in contest circuits for example. Still enjoy the show and listening to it as often as I can, but only the nine club, not the experience. I like the background stories and experiences that pros or their guests share. I find the “all is super sweet” attitude of the experience section kind of stale. On the other hand: isn’t every pr good pr? @radrat I think you are doing a great job. That they react to one of your vids or that Jamie Thomas reacted to something you created can’t be a bad sign. At least I think that means you do good work.
You can’t expect them to talk about controversial topics when the name is after a term relates to SLS
I'd like to hear Lake havasu discussed. Some strange scoring at that event lol
This and how they dog Andy Anderson by being more concerned about his helmet then his skating shows a lack of resolve on Nines' part. I hope Rad Rat's efforts to document and distinguish between the historic as well as ever increasing number of similar tricks are someday appreciated to the level of his attention to detail and commitment.
I honestly can't stand professional skating anymore. I'm so over it all
It's kinda lame as fuck at the moment
Don’t sweat it dude :) You’ve just grown out of ‘the scene’. When Thrasher started showing butt chugging in the kotr vids and the street league started taking off, I decided meh the skate scene isn’t for me anymore. You don’t need it to go outside, stand on your board, and enjoy the experience of the activity called skateboarding :)
This I agree with. I love skating but haven’t kept up with recent stuff for at least 10 years.
@@juvedoo99 I just watch Gou Miyagi videos over and over
Just subbed. I Watched the whole thing, you handled it super respectfullly and TBH it is kind of lame that people will make that kind of judgement based on a title. Even when I heard them talking about it and I didn’t know who you were my first thought was “so what that’s just a video title he’s probably not actually calling Chris Haslam a cheater in the video” and that is the case. I guess when you don’t exist in the world of saturated content you don’t understand titling videos in a way to get engagement. Look at 9 club titles tho, but yeah they aren’t fighting for attention. Their shorts titles are getting creative tho.
I met Chris Haslam back in 2008, I might've been 13 at the time but I found him to just be an overall nice guy. I felt like it was me meeting my childhood hero.
Ever wondered why Mark Gonzales has never been on the nine club?
Yeah cause he knows those guys are dorks.. mark is just skating living life.
Has he said why?
@@zerozero-dt2wv yeah. He said cause they corny af. 🌽
@@McFlurryMachineIsDown where
@@inkusaido I'm only playing. I Made this up but the type of skateboarder he is I'm sure he couldn't be bothered. Just my opinion though.
Most informative man in the community! I'm glad you're providing evidence of what really happened and I'm glad your name got some outreach. Keep providing us with the best content radrat!
ayo Chadrat, fuck em. If they think surface level insults or jeering will break your streak, fuck em. You said it yourself, man: they didn't watch the video. If they had at least given you the respect of watching the video then there would have been a point of discussion - but no. They saw the title and thumbnail and made up something to fit you into their agenda.
They're boring anyway, don't let it get to you. You're damn near hitting 100k subs. That's a lot of people who love your content so keep it coming!!
Kelly Hart calling someone a dork. At a table full of dorks, he actually stands out. Roger Bagley is the coolest one and he suffers from debilitating anxiety over his dorkiness. Don’t get me started on Chris Roberts calling someone stupid. There could be a comp of stuff that’s gone over his head.
Nailed it.
Mature Response.
Respect. We back you 💪🏽.
Have you done a video about slalom skateboarding? I’ve been obsessed with it for the passed 2 years
love your channel
keep on keepin on
Your first video had such a ridiculous click-bait title. No wonder they didn't watch it.
Yeah they were mostly reacting to the title
Rather than watching it for context
maybe the lesson here is to not use clickbate titles. ofcourse they didn't watch or need to watch the whole video when the title is enough to harp on for 10 minutes in their podcast.
So when are you on the show?
If they watched your video they would know that you video is not an acusation. The title starts the topic with a question. Your video is basicly a thesis about the topic, with a conclusion in the end. It makes people think about something. And it's great!
Ah man that’s sucks.. def uncalled for. If they knew you or had seen the video I’m sure they wouldn’t have spoken like that about you.
We all rate you!
I hope you don’t take it personally cos they were misinformed and spoke without thinking.
EXACTLY, yet everyone here in the comments is pretending they went in with THAT context and still said what they said... It's laughably stupid. It's crazy how they are missing that and don't see how the video in question was presented as a hating ass troll attacking a skater...
Glad you made this response! I was kind of shocked when they started talking about this. Honestly, all they had to do was pull the video up, and that would clear everything up. I rewatched it right away because I didn't remember you disrespecting Haslam at all during the original video-and you didn't. Keep up the great content
He didn't disrespect Haslam, but the dude outs a clickbait title to get views and doesn't realize it welcome scrutiny to put up clickbait. And then when he gets called out for it he can't handle it. This dude is wack
@@evanpiedrahita7378 I thought he handled it very well. This guy covers a lot of skate related topics and it's almost always informative, never a hot take or ill will to anyone or anything. That clickbait title skews things. Cheating isn't a good word to use. Not a good word to use along with someone's name. After watching the video I can see the connection for the title but I think he should've titled something else. I wish you didn't think that this dude is wack. I couldn't pick a better person to run a channel like this.
@@travo85 exactly. We agree the clickbait title is not how to approach it when you really want to have a reputable channel. Almost no nine club listening know what this lame account is and still don't care. The video itself doesn't matter because the title is already doing enough to set the tone. Sure there isn't anyone better to run the channel because its his channel, but that doesn't make it a good channel. As long as he makes desperate shots in titles of videos, new listeners will see it as wack. Even the response title is dumb because the nine club doesn't care to hear the opinion. The title "does Chris Haslam cheat on Lazer flips" is plenty wack
insane to think days ago this only had about 1k views. amazing how it blew up in no time thanks to the support of us radrat lovers !
Most people just read the click bait without further reading or investigation…this could either be a lesson or just chalk it up to people that enjoy being ignorant. I’ve always loved your videos and how thorough you treat the subjects you cover. Keep going.
I’ve never thought that the nine club is all that good anyways and the fact that they were trashing your video without even watching it is bullshit
Cmon man...stop....
Skaters acting like they're in the "cool kids club" and calling other skaters "dork" it's so far removed from skate culture roots.. keep up the great work and ignore them
Skateboarding has unfortunately always had a strong element of trying to be the cool guy
Skateboarding been hella clique-ish for decades. How long had the term "poser" been used? I skated in the late 80s and all the skaters had to have the same wardrobe and attitude to be accepted. I remember my friends learning trick and tackling new obstacles and I wasn't able to keep up. I still enjoyed skating but people started calling me a poser so I quit.
That's... literally all skating is. A cool kids club.
Sry to hear that man, you deserve so much respect for informing people and doing your best
Big fan and long time subscriber homie. It frustrates me when they speak out of their ass on 9 club, and for the Rad Rat to catch hate is a major strike in my book! I’ll keep supporting both y’all but If Kelly got a problem with RR he’s got a problem with me!!! 😝
So you're a youtuber who used a clickbait title and then got bent out of shape when people took it at face value? What exactly do you suppose clickbait really contributes to the narrative? surely you understand this, because you use it as a tool to attract attention to your videos. you're an intelligent fellow but you're taking it personally when they are annoyed with your content, without even calling you out by name. you're annoyed that commenters are coming for you and mentioning that they threw shade, while haslam (and the nine club crew) are probably annoyed if their comments are full of people reacting to your misleading clickbait that is essentially casting doubt on his ability which makes up his entire career. You're both doing the same thing, but the difference is that you're looking to be given a token of respect in response to a misunderstanding that you are basically entirely responsible for. you purport that it matters that "at the end of my video i concluded that it was all fine", and that is fair enough to say, but you literally know better. everybody who is aware of your video has read the thumbnail, but not everybody has watched the video.
Thank you
Been watching your videos for a long time, the nine club trippin for hating on someone trying to make positive skate vids. Love your content man
Or the reality is they were mislead and hating on someone who was NOT making positive vibes but attacking chris haslam... Come on now Lmfao... They were wrong as a dog in the bushes with a squirrel but they did NOT think it was some random innocent dude with a breakdown of a trick for the sake of a breakdown of a trick, but instead some pedantic overly critical douce bag hater only doing it so he can HATE... Hell, I'd call out this video now for not making it clear or using more clips about what they THOUGHT was the case going in. Now you can call all that out for them not getting the info (gotta call him out now, and this is prepared content) but you can clearly see if honest why the hell they violently attacked and mauled him by calling a unknown unseen person a Nerd..😬🥴
Can someone link the 9 club video
Just search for the Nine Club stop and chat with Chris Haslam. It's a very recent video. They talk about this in like the first 20 minutes or so
The switch bicycle rider...Steve...Steve just gives her haha
Your researched documentaries on skateboarding history are excellent and I'm sure many reading this will agree. If other skaters don't respect your knowledge or the depth of your research, then that says more about them than it does about you. One day you will be invited onto the 9 club, and an apology will be forthcoming. Nobody in the skateboarding family should be judging one another. The whole community was originally built upon the principles of mutual respect, and we must all remember that.
“How do you get people to click on your video? You say it’s cheating” that’s the problem.
Not really, he posed the question and came to a conclusion. Is every scientist that poses a theory or hypothesis a "problem" or do they get pass for not using YT?
He’s manipulating words to get views while unintentionally making someone look bad. He even says “cheating is like a hack.”…Then say hack. He even says, “I don’t think it’s cheating at this point”, however you know how many people will read that thumbnail and mindlessly think “ he’s a cheater”. That is the problem.
Keep on keepin on RR - I love all your content!
I remember watching Mister CK back in the day! The first time I ever saw a feather flip was when he did it. It inspired me to eventually learn them.
I was today years old when I learned people do laser flips with their back foot. I've never been able to do one, but maybe that's because I ALWAYS thought you flip it 100% with your front foot....until I watched this video. :)
why is This such a big deal for Hart?
OG pros getting over-run by instagrammers and youtube skaters.
Because he’s the definition of a skateboard jock.
@@chimyshark he’s not an OG though. Jeron and Roger are.
do a video about the half impossible or pressure underflip. who did it first, ME or shaun davis?
It was actually me.
Koston
@@fernandoreyes680 video link?
@@PhaseSkater BATB X Legion of DOOM vs Justice League. He’s been doing that trick for like 20 years
@@fernandoreyes680 just saw it. that video was uploaded on a few months before mine. so close. then again he kind of rolls his on the ground almost like an oldschool kickflip versus popping it up in the air. still counts though. i stand corrected
i was on skaterscafe with MRCK as well. i remember you being on there, but i joined after you tapered off on posting. this reminds me of when you reviewed some blackbox video and jamie thomas copyright claimed it because he said you were a freestyler and couldn't review street skating.
None of the nine club hosts were dissing you directly in any way, it’s pretty obvious that it was about the idea that the trick wasn’t a laser flip.
Haslam himself was the only ones there who was referring to you and your video.
Why did you cherry pick clips that without proper context within that video to make it seem as if it was an attack on you?
Why did you name drop the nine club as opposed to just addressing Haslam himself? I’ve been a fan of you content for years as a fellow Michigander but after listening to what was actually said this feels like a misinterpretation of what happened.
I can only show so much of the video to avoid a copyright issue. But Haslam's opinion seemed to me to be more like 'maybe they're right, I just don't care. It's dumb to get worked up about it'. His comments seemed more toward the people who complain directly to him, while Kelly's were directly at me for making the video. It comes up several times in the interview.
@@RadRatVideo I genuinely believe that Kelly’s comments were directed at your channel as a faceless entity because of the clickbait title and the idea of saying that he “cheated” was dorky. It was more of a distaste of the idea that someone took the time to make a video saying he didn’t do a trick the way it supposed to be done, causing a group of people to take their time to mass comment about it. Nothing he said was directed at you as a person but I can see how it could be easily misconstrued.
@@RadRatVideo post a link to the video in the comments or the description and let people make of it what they will. It's pretty obvious alot of people in your thread havnt seen it.
Thank you for making this video! It was extremely entertaining! 🙏
Your profile pic got me.
What? Someone got mad at a video title without actually watching the video? Impossible. Lol
Keep doing what you’re doing.
Keep doing you man you kill it and I love your content
They never actually called anyone a dork, they said that's dork. ❄️
I mean I didn’t see anything wrong with their responses. Chris wasn’t talking negatively to you he was just annoyed by it. And Kelly is 100% right that is a dorky thing to nerd out on. That doesn’t mean he was being rude.
Yep, exactly. This dude's just being too sensitive, i didn't see anything wrong whatsoever
Hey man, don’t let it get to you too much. I’ve been in the skateboarding world since I was about 7 years old, at this point close to twenty years. ( and just like any of the pros or whoever else, I’ve no authority in the space. There aren’t many rules to begin with) but for the whole time I’ve known about your channel, I’ve been a fan and you’ll never lose my respect. Stay true to you man
Dude the Chad Rat logo is amazing lololol 🤣
Playing Devil’s Advocate here - Don’t use clickbait titles like “Does Chris Harlan cheat…?” and then not expect to have people get annoyed about it and maybe not even want to watch it. You yourself said in this video that Ellis made a clickbaity title to get people to view his video. You seem like a decent dude but you knew what you was doing when you wrote that title. You play the game and take the consequences.
Also the irony of this video being about people insulting you and now all of your followers are laying into the 9 Club hosts in the comments here and calling Kelly Hart names.
Gifted hater video inbound
Was looking specifically for this comment. 9 Club spilfted tater video coming
@@tev0tv the holy trinity. Need to get ben degros in there somehow aswell for the ultimate crossover
I guess if the original video wasn't a click bait style title there would be zero issue.
11th time asking. Can you do a video on your skate videos collection?
Skateboarding in it's own way, is an art form. People analyze it and dissect it at different speeds and lens than others would. Much like in the visual arts when drawing for example, to draw a complicated shape, you break it down into much more smaller shapes. What the Nine Club needs to realize is that skateboarding is it's own art and people look at it differently than some. They ought to respect that difference and worry about landing the next trick and riding away smoothly rather than what another person might think of them on the internet. Also,
Kelly Hart, quit being a fucking dork about what others think and skate goddamn you.
I always learn something from your videos. Nine club is boring to me.
I couldn’t find where they directly say RadRats name or even mention his video. I did hear the kiwi topic being discussed though.
They don't say his name. Haslam mentions the name of the video and they all take it as that was the final conclusion of the video.
Okay, man. I don't know or care about any of this drama but I absolutely need to ask you about something: What is the genealogy of your channels name?
The first board I ever got, when I was like eight years old, was from a flea market, total 80's style deck, board rails, tail and nose guard, the works; and it had the exact logo you use and said "Rad Rat" on it.
I have to know, for my own sanity, is this the reason you chose this name?
Because there is literally zero recorded evidence of the board I'm speaking of on the internet, so It'd be cool if that was the case.
I think what this shows is that skaters in general are dorks at hearts. Jeff Grosso talked about this at length. We are the weirdos. It doesn’t matter how rich or poor. If you skate, you’re a weirdo. I for one love that and it’s a reason why I started skating.
Losing respect for nine club recently. First they say only pro skaters should get paid and ams shouldn’t, now this? Corny
Yeah they are just yes men to whatever the guest says. That formula only works for so long
I've been watching your videos for years and if I were in your position I'd be very dissapointed with how they spoke about you. Glad all is well and it was handled effectively
Wait how else does one do a tre flip, doesn't everyone scoop as you pop it to get the shov flip catch land.. but the scoop is not like a pressure flip
I only watch the 9 club for whatever guests they have on that I like, definitely not for the hosts. But, they have to be careful what they say so they don't piss off the corporate skate industry and get black balled. I'm all about independent content now, keep doing what you're doing!
Cmon man...stop...
@@zezuntxiduntxi Just voicing my opinion
the moral of the story is that click bait is not worth it.
I didn't actually watch the interview but I am aware of the laserflip cheat video. So i knew what you were talking about.
Props to you for this calm and collected response.
Nine club has at times some really entertaining and informative interviews but other times theres people with very skewed perspectives on things. I remember watching the interview focussing on skate filmers which really showcases my point of view. Take the whole thing with a grain of salt.
And thanks for your content on the net.
I have very little interest in the technical aspects of skateboarding. That said, I DO enjoy that others do. The incivility and hypocrisy of highly influential people in media and industry are more impactful and important than we may all want to admit. It is good that this has been called to account, and your response is solid, as was your initial analysis video from so long ago. Thanks for making vids, radrat.
They never even seen the video clearly, so I think they were just trying to make Haslam feel better about it, by attacking you instead of actually questioning what was in the video. Fuck em! Lol, keep up the good work
Mega oof
I've never heard of this channel but youtube made it pop up because I watch a lot of nine club. The PR you got from that CH episode is gold. thank them.
and I subbed you.
Glad you mentioned the 360 flip version of this, I think of it as the I'm too tired to pop properly 360 flip, both ways work but especially with a bigger board 8.5 I've found the foot scoop is harder that actually popping.
I’d be totally honoured if Kelly Hart called me a dork, or if Jamie Thomas called me a nerd. This is another one for the history books in skateboarding’s rich tapestry
Bro I'm not even sorry to say this because I believe in love and peace. But man Rad Rat is FAR more cooler than Kelly Hart. Respect all these dudes but that's just bozo activity. Anyways much love RadRat! Keep up the good work! I've been subscribed to you ever since. Never forget all that you have taught us.
Just here to say that back in the days when I started skateboarding, I was a huge fan of Aymeric Nocus and the Mighty Moe Skateshop crew ! Loved their videos and they were in french so I could understand. So cool that you know him !
I think saying it's cheating in the first place is weird and baity, but you know that. There's no such thing as cheating at skateboarding itself.. editing is another story. Anyways, love the vids!