Revisiting the Types: INTP
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Table of Contents:
Initial Description: 0:32
Dominant Ti: 3:40
Auxiliary Ne: 11:20
Tertiary Si: 15:20
Inferior Fe: 18:07
Sources:
Jung: Psychological Types
von Franz: Lectures on Jung's Typology
CelebrityTypes.com
John Barnes (UA-cam)
Type Tips (UA-cam)
MBTV (UA-cam)
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"They represent a paradox of anxiety and confidence." Spot on.
A really frustrating existence
This is exactly how i feel all the time. I’m so glad other people feel this too. (Not really though it is hell)
It’s an interesting experience that I don’t find necessary frustrating, why would you find it frustrating?
HAPPY DISASTER | The nature of paradoxes themselves are frustrating, one who exhibits paradoxical traits don’t really ever experience the traits themselves as they’re forever canceling themselves out, I am always unconfidently confident. See how that works, or ya know.. doesn’t.
The world is an equation that may never be truly solved, and that's okay. I wouldn't call it anxiety as much as contemplating multiple right answers to the same problem.
They have confidence in their thought but anxiety to speak their mind.
Oh, I must be an exception to the rule. I have zero problems speaking my mind.
true, from which it results my habit to always externally say yes to what people want but still proceed to do something else I had in mind
YES. I'm a very confident writer heheh 😅
Depends on the audience.
Are they random strangers? Then I don't care if they don't like what i say, as long as I explain myself in a way that minimizes misunderstanding as much as possible.
Are they friends? Then I really don't want to step on toes in a way that stresses the friendship any more than is good and inevitable.
It's not that we make things more complicated than they actually are, it's that everyone oversimplifies everything.
Eh, this statement is purely superficial.
How complex or simple a thing is, is absolutely the matter of perspective. So what you're really showing is that you're looking from the inside out.
While this is perfectly fine since these statements are basically identical, from a practical perspective the fact that people can achieve things with their much more simple understanding would suggest that you you are over complicating things.
However, this is counteracted by the simple truth that over complicating things is fun.
+Dandvadan this is only occasionally true and shouldn't be applied to every situation. Case in point, this right here is an example of you simplifying something and me pointing out that that isn't always true. It's not about perspective, it's about accuracy.
+Dandvadan INTPs usually perceived things in a manner that is more complicated than other people but only feel compelled to explain this if an explanation that is given has too much room for error.
Ti My Wait, when exactly are "I over complicate things" and "Others over simplify things" not interchangeable?
Dandvadan In scenarios that require understanding. If you have to state that something is "over" anything, you are already stating that there is a more accurate way to react to something. There are so such situations of one side over complicating things and another side over simplifying them but that doesn't make the equally wrong or right. One is usually closer to accuracy than the other. Stating that it's all a matter of perspective is stating that it isn't a question of accuracy.
my life as an intp: watches an analytical video on youtube (cause no life), finds something worth critiquing, writes a long and well thought-though comment, posts it, immediately deletes it because people might not understand and reply negatively, goes on to watch another video on a completely different topic (cycle repeats)
Fuuuuck it's me
fakye.
me
Every opinion is equally stupid and genius as well as all the other adjectives listed in language or newly felt.
Why do you speak my mind?😂
I think INTPs have a gift for mimicking other personality types. We are the architects and logicians, but we are also chameleons. If you asked those who know me little or little more than a little, they would say I'm an extrovert. I am not an extrovert. I enjoy being around others, but that rapidly fades.
mtb416 I do this as well
That describes how I feel, extremely well.
We are the most extroverted of ALL the introverts
Robyn QH no. The INFJ is the most extraverted.
I have had a similar experience from colleagues, who were shocked to find out exactly how introverted I am. Once an INTP feels comfortable around the people they are with, and discussing a topic of extreme interest to them, we appear quite excited and extrovert. I think it comes from a deep seated root to want to share the ideas and discoveries we have made with others, especially those we feel comfortable sharing them with. Only in short bursts though!
I'm INTP but i am skeptical of the scientific validity of the MBTi test.
Isn't that typical.
Have a look at some of the stuff from C.S Joseph. Seems a bit more accurate.
CS Joseph is nuts, please people don't watch him
@@christopherpoblete8562 Can you explain why you think so? I don't watch him by the way, so I wouldn't know.
You are not one of us
I"m pretty sure it's been proven to not be scientifically valid as a test. Mostly because people don't align 100% with just 16 different types. I've taken it 4 times and got INTP every time. All that means is I'm consistent with my perception of myself. A couple of my letters are like 45/55 or 40/60 splits anyway. Despite all this, I still think it's kind of entertaining.
This was VERY well done. "A paradox of anxiety and confidence." YUP
YES
where time was this mentioned in the video?
Yeah, I'm pretty confident that I suffer from anxiety...
As an INTP who generally doesn't feel anxious, but to the outside world looks to be indecisive and dithering, it's not anxiety but thinking about multiple right answers to the same question and thinking about different situations they might apply to.
Ask me to step up on a stage and hold a speech you'll find me shaking, ask me to help my friend when he's getting beat up i'll jump right in getting beat up with him lol
This video is amazing, I lasted almost a full 18 minutes before having to pause to complete a hypothetical debate in my head about something i don't remember anymore because I began typing this comment about it in which I want to convey an idea I forgot what is because I had to google "convey" to make sure I used it correctly instead.
Googling words to use them correctly.... I am amazed that more people don't do this, but then wonder if I am insane for being part of the few that do.
“Pause to complete a hypothetical debate in my head”
God damnit I do that a lot
Hahaha hi sir I'm an INTP too
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I so understand.
😁 so am I. I must laugh always so much when I see a video about INTPs as I see myself so clear.
"Stop making the world so complicated, INTP." Yet I swear the world is far more complicated than I could ever "make" it out to be.
At the end: "Don't worry, INTP, you can talk to them. Be smooth. Be smooth like ESTP." Incidentally my dad is ESTP and in social situations when I'm too uncomfortable to know how to behave, I just imitate him.
in mbti weird = intelligent
What world is there outside of the human mind ?
Bro like that's how I got over my fear of presentations (just mimic being confident) but it still comes out when I'm uncomfortable I tend to lower my voice and swallow my words often leaving things I wanted to say unsaid
I think a lot of perceived complicatedness is just a lack of understanding. Without solar-centric understanding, the path of stars in the sky become strange ellipses that are predictable but quirky; with solar-centric understanding, the movement makes more sense, and seems less arbitrary.
So there are times when simpler things are more accurate than more complicated ones.
i am intp and also do a lot of imitating when i have to be in social situations. i channel fictional characters and real people to get through the conversation because i've learned that my natural responses are inadequate. but it can be kind of fun when i can do the imitation well enough
Being an INTP is a blessing and a curse! I love my individuality, stoic, artistic and observational nature but hate my anxious, overthinking and self conscious nature. I am a being with 2 warring sides in me!
I agree
@@viktortikka8544 Appreciate it boss!
Same
"They want to understand things, they want the blueprints in front of them so that they can reference them as they move about the world. Blueprints written in the language of Ti, with illustrations and examples provided by Si." To me, this is the most profound articulation of the INTP's purpose I have heard. Thank you, Michael.
We have no Si but Se
@@reizer05 ?
INTP functions:
Ti
Ne
Si
Fe
@@jamersbazuka8055 aah Si with Ne now I get it
I think the INTP is nervous in crowds because he has a tendency to dive into all the possibilities of a thing, so while he's standing on stage he might project himself into the heads of everyone watching and see himself from their point of view, he then sees that if he makes a mistake or does not come off as relaxed they will perceive this, this makes him afraid and ironically makes him act exactly in this dreaded way.
Im an intp and iv noticed that i project myself into other people and this makes me self conscious whereas someone who's consciousness stays very much in their own immediate surrounding is going to be more relaxed because he doesn't perceive too far outside of himself, he sees less possibilities and therefore is more comfortable as you illustrated in the video.
As an intp you need to learn that your projections onto others are exactly that, they are projections and although they could be very accurate one must instead try to act from one's own center, ignoring your analysis of the situation. Bringing your consciousness more to a localized place will make you feel better, but its something you need to consciously do, for instance following the breath for 15 minutes will start turning off this projection of consciousness and you can sit in comfort in the present moment and enjoy things at face value.
Anxiety comes from diving deeply into things and trying to figure them out instead of taking them at face value, taking things at face value makes your thinking more simplistic but its relaxing.
Its possible to override your default disposition through meditation, as you become aware of your tendencies you can start to question whether the automatic reactions you have are benefiting you or not. Meditation gives you free will, without meditation people are playing out their own conditioning in a very automated fashion, you will keep falling in the same traps and you will repeat patterns/habits.
Well said, reminds me of a good article I found years back that touched upon the importance of meditation in a similar way too personalityjunkie.com/intp-infp-entp-enfp-creative-life/
>Equally important, the ability to find their center grants NPs a sense
of control over their state of being. Rather than being enslaved by the
whims of anxiety or inspiration, they can harness the power of their own
consciousness to regulate their state of being. Not only does this pave
the way for creative excellence, but also for optimal living.
public speaking used to terrify me. Then I did a 180. Either that speech class or the mushrooms, idk.
My trick is - no matter how formal they want me to be, I'm gonna keep it informal. And if they don't like it, tough shit. But what happens? I get a couple laughs from the crowd, they actual understand what I'm presenting because I'm not just reading like a robot, but explaining things casually and simply, and boss ends up having me present more because it works good enough, and everyone else hates doing it.
David Druen i do that too, im most comfortable being myself and being informal also draws people to you because you are not speaking over a proverbial wall of formality in which you’re the guy on stage speaking and they are the listener, one should instead project a kind of comfortable familiar atmosphere in which you’re all just a bunch of people interacting.
I used to be afraid to phone people and I got over that by realizing that every person on the other side of the line is just that, a regular person, and I don’t treat them like their title, for me everyone is just a person, MD, Phd or loo lady.
Agree meditation is great but tummo breathework is where its at. Its one breathe per min which takes you into the parasympathetic nervous system which is where you heal the most. Meditation is a good start but it will keep you in the sympathetic nervous system which is that flight or flight mode.
I watch your video's because it makes me feel "normal," whatever that is.
When others say that's normal i always find myself asking them questions like, can you define what normal is?.. And i can very subtly notice their reality crackling down and a sense of frustration from their part, because they never seem to be able to explain what they precieve.
20:13 is basically me when I attempt to be social or funny because words do not come out the way I want them to. Spoken language does not agree with my mind... someone please kill me now.
I can't talk words good.
Ayy lmao, then you've not obtained sufficient inner calm, it grants clarity of perception~understanding and mastery of articulation.
Lin Yen Chin How..
Emotional flow, the spasms of impulse and the compulsions of habitual/default perspectives, they obscure/skew accuracy of perception. This imbalanced perception is then faulty foundation for cognitive extrapolation as to what it is that one is observing.
This is the basic principle behind INTP concentration, and most likely the basis of Vulcan mentality in the fictional realm of Star Trek
Same here. I prefer writing to talking. I love music and I love to communicate in that way.
I feel a little naked! This is as good a description of INTP as I've seen. Bravo....
ok loppy
@@jh4766
hhahahaha
100% dead on
Now to sit back and watch all the mistyped INTPs have a hissy fit
A joy present in all the comment sections of his type videos. :)
I am offended by the implication that my Ti is not capable of being offended
There's only one dislike? It's dead on, for my own psyche at least, however i'd have expected much more dislikes due to feelers wondering wtf, my friends really this way? BS. But oh well.
+Foolish Wonders - Depends, I got to question this... a generalisation, followed by statement??? o.O haha. Although this is mostly true, as there is about 3 people who have ever really pissed me off, it's not. So you're best saying unlikely INTP.
Hey now. I am highly offended anytime Trump speaks. I can feel my brain cells committing suicide, and I do not appreciate it.
You know you're talking to an INTP when they're not offended by the Frankenstein analogy.
Edit:
Ok NOW I'm offended by you calling me subjective and not listening to evidence. Triggered.
lol, I thought the Frankenstein analogy was a compliment xD (created from creativity/intuitiveness = made up of bits and pieces of functioning parts = comes to life in a way never seen before = takes what was already great, dominate it and make it 1000x better)
cobby407 lmao #triggered
cobby407 I love this comment haha
A lot of people don't understand why subjective is not bad when it comes to INTP. We represent real data isomorphically through subjective symbols, same as math. Sigma, delta, omicron and so on, doesn't mean shit, just some lines on a paper that represent mechanisms and data of the world. INTPs being subjective is something analogue to mathematical reasoning.
What's " the Frankenstein analogy"?
I would just like to sit home alone all day in my thoughts, and I can do that my whole life.
Nice to see that you briefly mentioned the artistic side of the INTP (2:50). As it's so often ignored or not seen as an INTP "thing" due to the aforementioned stereotypes and cliches that are a given with the MBTI system and popular descriptions. But I've always loved art and drawing, simply because its one of the best and most effective ways to bring an idea down to "reality" at least on to paper, and give it some solidity, on that simple blank canvas the impossible can be made possible - megastructures, orbital rings, spaceships, space battles, alternate history, futuristic technology and space fantasy, the possibilities are limitless, in drawing and even in simple fantasy/daydreaming the endless surge of ideas (due to Ne I assume) has somewhere to manifest itself.
Interestingly I find that 95% of the time I'm drawing its just simple pencil/pen on paper, no embellishments of color, or complex perspective if not required, rarely any fancy composition or expressiveness in line, very little experimentation with styles or mediums, concerned only with realizing whatever idea I had in mind to draw and then moving on, but also never knowing when a particular idea/drawing is finished and finalized so I rarely produce any drawing I feel is complete. I wonder if this is an INTP thing or just the way I do it.
Would be very interesting to see a video on how different types handle/produce art and artmaking perhaps.
planetsector9 I can relate with this.
Same
Tattoo artist intp here. You kinda nailed it.
This applies to almost every area of my life
Interestingly, while I don't do much written art, the two things I remember doing is colorless doodles, or coloring books. I never felt the need to color my own work, but would color if I didn't have to worry about the rest.
I'm a talkative INTP and when to many ppl text me or tries to talk to at the same time over the phone (not so much in person) I get (semi) stressed out.
Same !!!!
"If I were wrong, then one would have been enough." - Exactly!
We don't care about what others think of us but, care about how others perceive us.
Other people: that's my truth
Intp: that's the facts
Other people: your truth
Intp: no
“Can’t seem to decide if they’re afraid of people or not.”
My therapist is trying to get me over that but whatever. I guess that will just stick around forever!
I mean it’s a necessary self preserving instinct especially since people are freaking crazy so I don’t think you need therapy for that but if it’s actually bothering you from living your life then I guess therapy is somewhat necessary.
Amazing. This is the most accurate analysis I've ever seen. Scary almost. Its like you nailed me down in every aspect. Not one word can I really disagree with. You know me better then anyone in my family. I don't know if that's sad or cosmically impressive.
As an INTP, I believe anyone who agrees with 100%, has not given that subject enough thought. I don't even agree with me 100%.
How weird is that??? My issues have issues. LOL
Agreeing with oneself "100%", _100% of the time,_ is called arrogance.
What you've described is not weird.
Maybe u should test urself again
@@gcg8187 Agree. I see this so often. People who lie on their MBTI because they convince themselves they are something they are not, or quite simply they try and seem "intelligent" and then they come and complain about EXTREMELY accurate analysis instead of realizing the reason they can not relate is because they themselves are spewing lies and not vice versa. Sad. Redo the test and go spew nonsense on another type's videos please, as 99% of the comments would suggest this analysis is on point. A classic "Everyone else is crazy and I am the only normal one". Nope, perhaps you are the crazy one and everyone else is normal? Food for thought.
@@cdp_tvI agree that there is a certain amount of confirmation bias albeit MBTI tests are generally predicated on behaviour & false dichotomies (eg J/P, thinking vs feeling etc) when we all think & feel it's just contingent upon the codec it's attached to (I'm an advocate of CPT). Many people do conflate being intelligent with being a supposed (again doesn't exist) 'NT' type when this is not the case. I have an exceptionally high IQ & I'm professionally typed as a Ti-Ni ENFJ subtype (Ti-Ni the functional pairing in the highest conscious magnitude); no type has the monopoly on intellect.
correcto
As an INTP I always feel like I have to put on a mask during social gatherings (which I loathe) I come from a family who’s very extroverted and they STILL find me weird. Its quite exhausting pretending. Anyone else feel the same way?
You’re not alone
My father and lil bro are ENTJs, my lil sister is ENTP, and my mom is ENFJ. I am an INTP in the middle of Es :D.
Sometimes I wondered why am I an INTP, an then I remembered my grandma is ISTJ :'D.
It's hard for sure because they're sometimes "to active" but I' m trying my best :D.
Maybe I got influenced because my dad, but people said the first time they met me, they thought I am an ENTJ. The mask is too great for sure.
I feel like intp aren’t necessarily shy in the sense that we are scared to talk to people more that we wish not to talk to people
what i discover and conclude that we function and feel better in the groups. classes, gyms, sport teams, etc, try and you wil see.
but remember, people get tired.
I really hope you see this. Ok so It's not that I'm afraid of people, I see it this way: Life is suffering, our species sucks. *However*, people are amazing and life is a wonderful gift.
Unfortunately barely anyone else views life in such a way and that causes people with inherent good to embrace their inherent evil. Its much easier to be bad than to be good. I've been lucky enough to learn to see god in everyone and everything despite all the perceived evil in the world. I'm not afraid of people but I am deeply mistrusting because, like I said, people think more with their ego as opposed to their true self. I see the immense potential of our species, but I also see it being constantly squandered. It makes me sad but there is hope. As long as we have life, we have hope. I think we'll get there eventually. Not in any of our life times, but eventually our species will get there
A real INTP will respond to this video in a daze, is this really me? Am I that awesome?
That part where the Ti was screaming about nihilism winning was very relatable. I felt exactly the same way when my framework was shattered by my wife betraying me. Also, as an INTP, I debated about leaving this comment for a while. I finally decided to because it's such an old video and no one will probably see it at the bottom of the comment section.
Oops.
Ditto I'm a divergent ENFJ in CPT so a Ti-Ni subtype (the functional pairing I possess in the highest conscious magnitude) & that nihilistic trepidation that shines through when something is about to dismantle my Ti-Ni frameworks is scary as 'hell' (don't have a view whether hell exists lol)
Types out a comment that is only posted once it is determined that it mostly likely will not be read by anyone. Classic INTP.
Great Job! It showcased INTP's with more dimensions than the original.
I liked this video, but while accurate enough, I don't know why, it seems incomplete. That... or simply that you just had a more to say.
Once you're done with the revisiting the Types series, will there be a third series going even further down the rabbit hole ?
SpyMonkey3D from my perspective there will never be enough knowledge gained, though if it were possible that I could comprehend all that is, was, and will be... would I appreciate or enjoy that existence? What could I do if I was no longer able to ask questions?
I think, a certain lv of intelligence is required to fully elucidate this specific type, since it is one of the most intelligent types together with the INTJ, hence why a lot of people present infactual or lacking information on these types.
+Elf Machine
The theory is still the same regardless of type, the only thing that change is the function order... Analyzing an INTP or an INTJ doesn't take any more brain power than analyzing an ESFJ. That's the whole point of this typology theory if you hadn't noticed...
Get over yourself and stop posting that kind of moronic bullshit. You make us look bad.
@@The_SmorgMan then u would be an enlightened being like buddha, Krishna, jesus christ
@@bluegiant13erm...I wouldn't conflate intelligence with cognitive type. Sure IQ tests may require the usage of some functional pairings but the g factor (ie Ravens Progress Matrix) is much more contingent upon cognitive fluidity as opposed to the functional pairings. Not least to say that INTPs & INTJs are very different types; the INTP is a concrete specific logician much like the ISFJ with Ti-Si convergence and the INTJ is an abstract feeler with convergent Ni-Fi. I'm a divergent ENFJ Ti-Ni subtype in CPT (professionally typed) & have an exceptionally gifted IQ; indeed gifted individuals tend to blur the boundaries of distinct types even more thanks to cognitive fluidity. I work with ESFJs who are surgeons, INTPs who are technician clerks, ENTJs who are nurses etc...type does not indicate intelligence or lack thereof. I'd check out Cognitive Personality Theory for clarification.
"Go away lady, I'm doing science." I have never before seen a sentence that describes me so well.
I didnt watch the video yet, but I LOVE this sentence.
Great video. I have a friend who is a INFP and we get along great. We understand each other so well. She helps me in the feeling side and I help on the rational side so she doesn't take things to personally
“They tend to emphasise what we don't know rather than what we do.”
Damn, you put it in words.
These vids are spot on, I've been thinking I had autism lol
Everyone is a retard cause it's a spectrum.
While me I JUST THINK I CAME IN THIS WORLD EITHER TOO LATE OR TOO EARLY for my kind
@@pixsagmoonbluntsisters9928 at birth maybe
Same 😂😂😂
@@rachelwood4664I agree
my brain just exploded. thanks a lot, now i have to put it back together...
As an male entp with a beloved beautiful intp father who’s also my best friend, I’d very much agree with this comment and I like this video. The two of us can just talk forever about everything that exists as and beyond. I gota deep love my mom and older brother entj and intj, but frustratingly there isn’t quite the same chemistry when interacting, compared to my intp pops.
I happen to be an INTP My sister got depressed today. I felt uncomfortable hugging her but I didn't really know what else to do or say.
★ Cuddlepuff ★ my intj sister gets depressed and I use logical reasoning to help snap her out of it
HerMajestyBarebone I would too but I believe trying to use that would make things worse
@@ElektrikPichuZ Yep, sometimes all people want to hear is "THAT SUCKS :(" try it, and just hear her out :)
I feel like crying. This video has apparently brought my main complex to the fore. I'm an INTP. I had a very unstable early life (my mother tried to kill me so I had to physically flee from her, my father abandoned me, ended up homeless where I was constantly used by others). When I was young I would have poems stolen, essays for school stolen, ideas I was discussing with friends appropriated, which then always led to their need to demonize me as a person to relieve their guilt, and various similar experiences that seemed to define my role in other people's concept of friendship.
So now, I stand on the verge of collaborating with someone (an ENTJ no less...) and I'm just finding myself crippled by the very negative (Si? I'm new at this) past experiences. With such a low functioning Fi on his part, his tendency to make others feel as objects situated in reality to help him accomplish his goals, and my past, I don't think I can continue, and yet, because I am so afraid, I know it's what I need to be doing if I am to ever have a chance at unraveling this complex...Or maybe it's best not to explore this dynamic and my corresponding complex with an ENTJ?...I don't know...Plus I really love my ENTJ, so if he stabs me in the back I'll probably spiral out of control, whereas I can expect it and can take it from people I don't care about....
At least in the last few years I've developed two friendships with woman (finally.) One is an INFP and the other is an ENFP and they are both so utterly and exceptionally intelligent with and through their own processes, and they would be there for me through this process, which is different than when I was young as I had no one... but still fucking terrifying... ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reading this years later..... As I read I was like, 'Oh dear, this person needs to surround herself with some NFPs, like, now.' Then I read the last paragraph and laughed out loud. If you're still out there--how did things work out?
As an INTP, I approve. Mainly because, at the time of this video, I'm learning all about typology to expand my world view. Might I say though, all but the inferior function of an INTP can be overcome. Of course, this is the case with any personality, but in the pursuit of an understanding of things, INTP's like myself also scrutinize ourselves enough until we improve. INTP's may be prone to dislike politics, but I throughly enjoy discussing it. Many are stubborn, I am not. These are things I've dealt with, I've been immensely stubborn and idealistic in the past. I think that in my own scrutiny of myself and my thoughts, I've kind of shored up my weaknesses to a point. I'm no longer stubborn, and enjoy a good debate. I've gotten rather good at incorporating new knowledge given from other people. The only things I still struggle with are occasional pride, arrogance, impatience, and most of all feelings. Overall this video was exceptional though.
Very well said as Ti & Fe exist on an inextricable axis. We're cognitively fluid beings & the goal of individuation is to bring all of our functional pairings to light. Indeed if the INTP doesn't develop their Fi dip from their dominant Ti they can inadvertently be influenced by their implicit values & emotions in a way that is a lot less nuanced & precise than the INFP thereby not being as objective as they perceive themselves to be; holistic development requires that we develop all aspects of our psyche.
Many of the greatest Philosophers are INTPs
I'm an intp who enjoys politics. what does this make me?
Answer: probably someone who REALLY hates demagogues.
I'm only 3 minutes in and this is already oddly reminding me of myself. There is a certain accuracy to the personality type test, at least for me.
good stuff, man :) I like the comparing and contrasting between the types likes ISTP and INFP for clarification
I keep doubting myself and overthinking if I am an INTP or not, but some aspects fit my personality and some don’t. I know there are different types of INTP’s: SUPER INTROVERTED, TALKATIVE INTP, SMART INTP, DUMB OR LIMITED KNOWLEDGE INTP DUE TO ENVIRONMENT/UPBRINGING/LAZINESS/ETC.
I get confused on how people say INTP’s think of loads of things at once, physically impossible, yes maybe you can think of a topic for a minute or less and jump onto something irrelevant like how much cheese in the world is enough to feed the world for 10 days.
Another thing I relate to is how INTP’s can’t stop thinking, I don’t know how to stop thinking, I think about anything, doesn’t have to be deep intellectual thoughts of existence but anything like what am I doing tomorrow or college or daydreaming...etc.
I can’t turn if my brain, I don’t know how people sit or stand still and do nothing or think of nothing. I can not do that.
This is me. Every thing was dead on. And by the way, I loved the examples and illustrations. Very funny and very good.
This is probably the best descriptions of an INTP on youtube. Thank you
I can't say I relate much to the way of the NTPs, but this was a great explanation and comparison Michael! I learned a lot about this type as well as others. You did a great job balancing this lesson with solid information and clever humor! Looking forward to the next one. :)
Oh god, this describes me so well its almost horrifying, warts and all. Every test I've taken has pointed to me being an INTP and so far I can't find any fault in the description, as much as I wish it all weren't so true. I can verify from personal experience that the relationship between an INTP and his emotions are to say the least, complex and anachronistic.
Myself, I feel as if I have been in a constant battle with consensus and the opinions of the majority for years, my close friends have jokingly called me a 'hipster' because I have so stubbornly refused to be swayed by popular opinion, even if that means alienating myself from everyone else in a room. That little side story concerning the argument over biological genders is extremely apt, as I too only make the distinction based on reproductive capabilities, the personal feelings of others be damned! This pattern also runs true with purely academic pursuits, for I will happily disregard a popular, more common theory perpetuated by many in favour of a theory supported by an individual whom I have deemed trustworthy.
So what to do with that ? I mean, face it, there is a reason INTP's are only 3% of the population !
That comfy 17:28 position is fine with me, but if you were not born with a providential silver spoon in your mouth, that's the position of a loser !
What about shadow functions ? Reinforce them, or better stay away ? It's about personal growth, so if shadow's are out of reach - or only develop with aging - what strategy to adopt with the other functions ?
2nd supports 1st, how to make it more efficient ?
3rd is supposed to bring relief but apparently it's a total loss to spend (too much) time with it...
4th didn't bring me any luck long term - anxiety, misplaced emotions, maybe... 4th looks weaker than 6th anyway, which is more vocal...
Then I can't remember an example of 5th to 8th causing anything good... 6th hammering unpleasant truths all the time, without causing any solution to come from other functions !
Rare ENTJ shadow/mirror behavior in urgent cases, but quite angry, and energy is lacking to mimick this in everyday's life !
This video was really fun to watch! I like that you bring in other types and compare them to the type that you're talking about because it helps me to see the differences and to get a clearer view of the type. Also please keep making these videos over 20 minutes long
In all honesty I think the INTP´s "worst enemy" is democracy.
Your awesome metaphors confirm your INFJness lol :')
Yeah, his glorious metaphors always crack me up :)
7:40 Are you tapping a pen or pencil in rhythm to the words you are speaking? haha :)
I always hesitated or outright rejected the notion that what I have is "social anxiety". the tension is less prohibitive or paralytic as an anxiety would be. I describe what I have as "social paranoia", in that I can never fully trust that my social behavior is truly "kosher in the eyes of the grand social authority". I invariably suffer a crisis of "my god, WHAT HAVE I DONE!!" upon reflection of even the most minuscule/insignificant interactions.
20:03 This picture is very accurate to INTP, anyway as an INTP and a girl I am a christian, which I feel like that combination would be uncommon, so just to let you know, we exist.
Me too sister
It would be an amazing conversation to have on why and how you justify your christianic belief logically.
INTJ Christian girl here too. We also exist XD
@@najif7644 Read mere christianity, CS Lewis. INTJ christian.
@@wilburdemitel8468 I will reply to this again with my thoughts on the book once I've read it. Thank you for the recommendation.
I am literally one to two questions off from being an INTP. I consistently rank as an INFP and this seems to be my nature. However, the T and F function are seemingly 50/50.
Don't decide your type by tests, do it by stuff like this. Tests are very unreliable, but offers a good start to the search.
Thanks! After moderately obsessing over these test, I think I have a good understanding of where I am at. I am a compilation of INTP and INFP. I can see strong traits of both in my mind.
Richard Smith The MBTI community is very hellbent that you can't be a mixture of things. The types are each very specific and different that each person should in theory fit in one entirely. You judge for yourself though :)
If I had to be something then I would be an INFP. I think that the MBTI gives %'s though, no? I consistently get 48 % on the T function and 52 % on the F function. The rest normally stays the same. One test stated that I was extroverted...but I am not...lol...
Richard Smith Hrm, you can't be a mixture of 2 types since they are set profiles. Do you know how different an INFP and an INTP really are? You really should look into the cognitive functions instead of obsessing over the tests. An INFP and INTP may seem similar when you look at the letters, but these letters are only to categorize.
The I/E means that your first function is an introverted/extroverted one, the S/N means that you either have a sensing function in your first 2 functions or an intuition one. Same with T/F. You should read this www.reddit.com/r/mbti/comments/182ri9/comprehensive_mbti_post/ if you have the patience. As you can see, INFP is Fi Ne Si Te while INTP is Ti Ne Si Fe. Nevermind the percentages, they just show you how much you answered for or against a certain letter.
Fantastic! The three exceptions are so bang on... I laughed out loud at the pop concert because my INTP boss actually seemed to enjoy the Bieber concert he went to with his daughter.
what in the world how did you know i love one direction?? this video feels like a personal attack on me. big improvement over the first intp video which was already great
My husband is INTP, and I laughed when he got to that part, cos he totally does love the most ridiculous, corny things :D (not that I mind, though, I love them too!)
You really didn't want to share that example. I could hear you bypassing Fe to get the perfect example out there. Lol you probably questioned whether or not the video would be okay without the example didn't you? Lol Michael you're awesome.
I'd also like to update you on my enneagram type.
Which makes me significantly different from most entj's. I'm a type 5. Most intp's are type 5, very motivated by understanding things.
I just thought it was important for context to the call we had that one day.
I'm also a type 5 INTP
Hey! Sorry I didn't reply to the last message -- I was busy figuring out the Patreon and everything. I will definitely keep that in mind, because that makes sense in terms of what you were saying when you were talking. I appreciate the compliment, by the way :) And your observation is right on point.
I got 7w8 which jived more with my mood and not just my logic. I'm sure I'm an INTP but maybe I'm not a 7w8 (though it clicked)
Shunya Some recommendations on my about page: ua-cam.com/channels/mDcT_Pujk8vOcxk_IcnxtQ.htmlabout
I'd also add to that "Cognitive Type" -- cognitivetype.com/book-details/
5w4.
17:00- "The difference, then, is that the ENTP is not really trying to find anything: having a destination is simply an excuse for making the journey. The INTP, however, is certainly trying to find something, as much as they might say they are not."
I'm an ENTP. Ouch, that cut deep. Like, actually. But when I think about it, it's true...
I would like to know how you find this much depth because this is really accurate. Reflecting on my pre-knowledge and probably bias of mbti I could see me doing all those things and it's good that you showed the creativity of intps. I think you could have maybe explained (more?) what makes some more laidback/quirky and others uptight/driven because I was torn between intj and intp for a while.
Oh never mind I checked the description. Great video.
I find it refreshing that you have sources.
Thank God I'm actually finding information I can apply to help progress in my life.
Jordan Peterson's three lecture series' have enlightened and liberated me as well, if anyone else is seeking the same things.
This is really quite accurately how I function n think. I'm not a scholar of any sort, cus well environment plays a huge role in personality obviously, n maybe if I had a more fruitful n privileged childhood , things might have been a little different possibly, but fundamentals seem to b quite similar. It's not fun though, I must say . But then again, I'm most definitely am unhealthy intp both literally n theoretically. Also my recall or so called memory sucks balls , "My hippo went camping." Get it?
Ohhh my fuck. The mouth smacking. I couldn't.
but michael, doesn't the intp's si influence their need to fit in as well?
"This is the life" stick man.... you understand me.... :')
Ok I've only gotten 4 minutes in (seen your other INTP and INFJ video and enjoyed them) but the Frankenstein metaphor had me grinning with absolute mischievous delight from ear to ear from the moment you said "please follow me for a moment here" - I was surprised to notice how persistent it was actually hahaha, I thought I'd start cackling at any moment - but I also have to catch my bus - I am sold and look forward to watching this when I return hahaha. Thanks for the laugh anyway
So can we say:
INTJ: Knowledge for a goal.
INTP: Knowledge IS the goal. We just wanna know the truth.
ENTP: No goal? Or rather exploration is the goal?
As a divergent Ti-Ni ENFJ I'd say that I relate to both your points for all 3 as 1) Fe acts at the behest of a Ti agenda 2) Fe-Se is utilised as a tool as opposed to an end in itself for Ti-Ni and 3) as Ne is our subauthority our Ni is underpinned by a need for exploration upon which to build up our Ti-Ni frameworks/synergise them accordingly.
I see Gravity falls isn't just a show for conspiracy nuts.
What do you mean by conspiracy nuts? Are you aware of this?
v.ht/gladio
Dipper is an INTP.
It's fun to hear Michael click his pen on the desk to reinforce the syllables
Lol I noticed that
Genius
I come back to this video for therapy sometimes. It's the only time I've ever felt understood.
Thank you.
Really well written video. Most tests type me as INTP, but I feel I'm too emotionaly voulnerable and self conscious for the classification. I try to end/flee from social interaction as quickly as possible due to my social anxiety which might come off as social ineptitude. I'm not sure If I'd be classified as INTP had it not been for the physical disability and mockery I had to endure during highschool. I'd appreciate if some one who knows more about typology could give me their two cents on this.
The physical disability and mockery may have been what drove you to become an INTP. "Personality" is a result of both genetic and environmental influence. Also relating to your comments on emotional vulnerability, I feel that I am the same way sometimes. Although I am starting to question exactly what a real emotion feels like. There is a difference between overthinking and feeling. For me, it seems as if my considerations of potentially being someone who is over emotional stem from misinterpreting excessive thought as feeling. The excessive thought may result in responsive emotions that are inappropriate for the circumstance, but are not influential enough to such a point that you should be considering yourself as being over emotional.
I am an INTP and I feel emotionally vulnerable and self conscious often, it is usually due to anxiety or the feeling of being overwhelmed. As the video said, we have the confidence and anxiety paradox so that's fun to deal with.... not.
It's because the INTP IS emotionally vulnerable, they're anxious.. nervous, it's their LEAST developed trait.
think of the test as frame work that your own crafted personality plays off of, like roots to a tree.
What is social anxiety in ur experiences
Love the Beethoven at the intro, way to lure all the INTPs in; nice touch! 😉
As an INTP, it feels like you know me better than myself haha
Unrelated picture of Donald Trump :)) Very good one. Excellent video, but the Fe part is presenting only a part of us. As the Fe matures,it becomes a driving force - the desire to help (close friends and humanity as a hole) through Ti .
Sorry, "hole" should be whole.
Damn you're articulate. I'm jealous.
The best video about INTP! ❤️
This scared me a bit with the accuracy. Stop stalking me 😂
At 29 I'm trying to not speak much anymore. Think before i speak that's my motto. I'm too deep. Way too deep for people.
Is a personality type something that we were born with or is it mostly created by our experiences and environment? I was raised in a dysfunctional family and I've been under its impact. I always thought that my lack of trust in relationships, being suspicious, over-analyzing some things and making "easy" stuff complicated come from my family problems, but after I discovered my type, everything almost fits. It's not that I am not under pressure 'n' some other factors, because I am, and it's all crated me - a genius. Everything changes right, so is my personality? Maybe after I get rid of depression and change my dwelling place I'll be someone else... Whateva, I forget what my point was, sorry if I wasted ur time reading this.
This is two years later but there's a possibility it can come from experience environment or being hereditary
I like the gravity falls references hahaha
I’m not trying to over complicate anything, I just want to be precise
omg. I am an ISFP I guess (thought I was an INTP at one point). Fell for an INTP and pretty much was that stick figure and now I totally get his reaction. LOL
When an INTP understands something, they care not a fig about what the clueless think about the INTP's ideas. I have seen it before declared that what other people think of an INTP ideas is the INTP's worst fear, and nothing could be further from the truth. This is a myth that just keeps being passed around by ESFJ and ESTJ personality type writers who like to think what concerns them strongly concerns the INTP type. But it is not true .
Much of this video is is off base.
Killin it!
Great video again Michael Pierce. I'm sorry I haven't been around your channel in a while. I've been pretty distracted and caught up with my own interests. :( (After class today though, when I have the time to do it. I do want to become a patreon of your work. I'm sorry I have not done so sooner.)
This video really got me engaged perhaps more so than usual. Reason being, I have always related the most to the INTP if it isn't the INFP. (I'm an INFP for a reminder. ^^) This video was great though at allowing me to see the areas where I really do not relate.
For starters, I've been involved to a moderate degree in philosophy and your discussion on INTPs in philosophy definitely contrasted with my own. (For the record, I tend to side more towards virtue ethics. Just an aside. I like saying that ^^) You said that the Ti types form logical constructs that they feel have to be true by virtue of their logical consistency. I have never eeeever done that in philosophy or really anywhere for that matter. My approach in philosophy tends to be an argument in favor of something simply because it does not seem right or feel right. (However, due to my academic inclination, I can sometimes trick myself in the moment to rephrasing it somehow into a thought, as opposed to a feeling.)
A great example of this would be the classic Trolley Question. If given the choice of flipping the switch to kill one as opposed to five, I argue for not flipping the switch. To me, life has immeasurable value and therefore there's no way to discern which is the better outcome, five people dying or one. If life were to have measurable value though, then by virtue of simple math, five would be greater than one and so five lives are greater than one. I often summarize this philosophical stance in a disdain for "counting lives." I hate the idea of counting lives and feel that it simplifies the question of life too much, allowing people to simply choose the five over the one and never truly consider the lives that they are killing. If I were to flip the switch on the basis of five lives are better than one, than the guilt of that decision would kill me inside. I would constantly be thinking about how I devalued life by giving it a measurable value.
(When told this question to my INTJ and ISTJ friends that I mentioned before, they thought there had to be more to the question and said that it was an easy choice of flipping the switch, because five lives are greater than one. I imagine for them the question is less about feelings and more about the fact that more life will exist if they flip the switch.)
I will come back to this comment section later, but it appears I have to head out for my two classes of the day. I hope to talk to you later. Peace ^^
I just signed up as a 10 dollar patreon. It's a crime I didn't do this earlier.
Anyway, before I give one more comment on my findings, I want to edit something I said in my last comment. I also like deontology quite a bit and consequentialism, while it has merit, is my least favorite out of the three major moral philosophy approaches.
On the previous topic, I have something similar to INTPs in that I struggle between having confidence in my feelings and a self-conscious-ness of what others think of me. However, for me, the issue has more to do with my self-expression vs. others self-expression. I want everyone to have full freedom of their self-expression and I feel many INFPs unintentionally wind up sacrificing their self-expression, which I unequivocally hate. A lot of time though, people seem to push me to choose between transparency and consideration of others. Roughly 99.9999% I am going to choose transparency in that scenario. Because for me, I think the question implies that if I choose the latter, than I am by in large supporting folks *lying* about their self-expression, which is criminal at best in my opinion. Meanwhile, choosing transparency in this scenario just means choosing to express things others may dislike or even hate.
My big issue here is that people love pushing that either or on me and usually guilt trip me for choosing the former over the latter. If people were to just change the question a tiny bit, to a point that may be unimportant to them, they wouldn't be as upset with me and wrongly think I don't care about others feelings. I do care. I just don't see caring about transparency to be at odds with caring for others opinions.
Let me provide an example of something that happened recently to me. I got involved in a comment thread and one thing let to another and I expressed my feeling that said person (who happened to be a female) was a cunt. I am sorry for saying that word. I do very much regret it. Still, I have to tell you how this issue of framing came up recently. Shortly after i posted the comment, I was thrown into a skype group with a group of people I respected who had already been briefed on it. They went on a shame-vest against me for saying what I said (which I now disagree with, but I'll get to that). They were trying to convince me to believe as they did that the word cunt was exponentially worse than other words. It was a feeling they had, that I did not share (probably has something to do with my greater exposure to the word). I simply tried to explain why I did what I did. I was not expecting them to agree and I did not want them to think I was pressuring them to think that. In the end, both them and I parted in different directions with them having a sour taste of me. The next day though I brought this up to both my INFJ friend and my INTJ friend that I've mentioned previously. My INFJ friend stressed that even though I disagreed with their feeling, I should've been considerate. My INTJ friend stressed an which just so happened to resonate more with me. He said that name calling of any sort hurts intellectual discussion. That was an extremely good point in my opinion and immediately made me regret my actions. I resonated with THAT statement, because it wasn't making an arbitrary divide between transparency and consideration of others. That view acknowledges something I believe that there are many ways to express the same view and that one can do so in a way that limits hurting others feelings. It's a hard balance, but I do HIGHLY believe in that.
One last point, as INTPs cannot compute if you argue with a point that doesn't fit in their logical system, so too do I, as an INFP, cannot compute when one argues with a point that doesn't fit in my value system. This can sometimes cause to me what I'm sure happens to INTPs. People misjudge my ability to be flexible and believe something else. Yes, we want our system to be perfect and we can be extremely concerned if we find an error in it, but we are VERY open to changing it if we think it is in order. For me, a lot of my family members get the impression that I am stingy and do not easily change my opinion. Meanwhile, some of my friends have a completely opposite sense as they've argued points that absolutely fit my value system (like my INTJ friend did). This easily causes me to change viewpoints in less than a minute. If only people were more familiar with this side of me. :( I really am open to other viewpoints. In fact, I want other new viewpoints to challenge my own so that my value system is even greater. I wish more people knew this
Thank you again man for this spectacular video. I look forward to your patreon discussions.
more than 7 billion people on Earth, 5 lives won’t make much difference
As an INTP, I enjoyed this video. For a while I've been onto writing-- for years that is. As my writing improved I actually noticed my personality had changed, I would take multiple tests, just to see if what was happening was real. I went from an ENFJ to an ENFP, INFP, concluding at INTP over the course of 3 years, in little time, you learn so much about the world. it's an eye opener of sorts. I had also noticed that in my writing, I was more conscious about it. Spotting errors much more easily and coming up with elaborate characters, I really do believe your description in a whole was amazing. But just to clarify, I'm not sure if my personality is real stagnant yet, I am only 13. I do hope to see some improvements in the future. Even so, if anyone has the time, I'd like them to critique this little 'short' of sorts of mine..thanks!
My Mind, Like The Winter
The steep rocky terrain was always so enthralling during winter, the thin sheets of tinted blue ice that coated the lakes, and the flurries of refreshing cold snow that layered the mountains with a blanket of sympathy, my mind dazed off while my physical body labored away, senselessly. Fingers numb and bitter with the nipping frigid of the sky that surrounded me, my eyes grew just as lifeless and frozen as this miserable, ravishing, place.
I was hiking through my despairs, a trail of footprints tailing me. Even so, there was no looking back. For I've chosen my course, whether that be the correct one or not. Lonely I was, in this cold desert. Lonely. Just the thought brought tears to my eyes, only for them to be stolen by this unforgiving winter. A winter of doubt, and solitude.
I like the writing: you're no amateur -- well, I mean *technically* you are, but you know what I mean: you're not *like* an amateur -- the writing is very rich, but I don't think its overly so for your purposes, which is good! It doesn't come off as over-the-top; its well seasoned, as it were. I have no context for it, of course...it sounds like a passage taken from a larger work, which you'd find in a book on poetry and prose with a brief introduction on what's going on in the book and then followed by analysis of the passage. But anyway!
If I may suggest: I would split the first sentence into two officially separate sentences; just a stylistic thing. The way that "senselessly" is sort of dangling at the end of the sentence bothers me for some reason. Though it might just be that I'm not sure why your hike is senseless, or why you feel that way about it. Which is why I assumed there was context of some kind. But maybe I'm just a plebian :p Also, I don't know about "Lonely I was" -- the poetic ordering seems a little out of place because of the more straightforward structure of the other prose. I think "I was lonely" actually sounds better, but once again, it might just be me.
So anyway, I like it! Keep righting, friend! You've got good stuff going here!
This is really good!
Personally I'd change "so enthralling" because enthralling is a very energetic word w/ a strong positive connotation which seems to conflict with the overall tone of the poem and "so" to me just seems unnecessary especially if you already have a strong adjective, I think just "captivating" would work better.
I'd also say "my body senselessly labored away" so senselessly seems like less of an after thought, though maybe that's what you were going for.
These however are just minor things that I personally think would make the poem better, but obviously it's your work and your judgment is supreme.
Emma, keep writing. Lovely vivid crystalline imagery, imbued with a metaphysical charm. You're a writer. Keep writing.
Are certain types more predisposed to certain political ideologies? IE INTPs are usually more left leaning?
I don't believe so. If there is any connection, it is all but buried beneath family context, education, society, experiences, and so forth.
Lord Nekomimi a lot of INTPs identify as Libertarians or AnCaps, notably.
"If you are not a communist at 20, you have no heart, but if you are still a communist at 30, you have no brain." quote from Winston Churchill... or George Bernard Shaw... but I suspect Errol Flynn may be the real author !
Isn't there some truth in that ?
I find good points in most political parties (at least in their public speeches), from left to right, even far left and far right may get it right about some details... but parties are too sectarians, like cults, a bit like soccer teams or Tesla cars fan boys....
I'm anti politics, cause it's all made up bullshit anyway..
I agree with PowerRedBull
I find it frustrating when my search for knowledge or my query is interrupted by people who make no sense... govt rules by controlling which stifles learning and freedom
I am extremely libertarian leaning. I want to be left alone to explore the rabbit hole of life
Thanks for another great video. I really enjoyed learning more about Ti.
thanks for the video
@14:00 my fucking face everyday
I cant recall many times where I could not conprehend some elses thinking and my wires broke down or whatever. Can someone give me an example, maybe I did ot subconsciously and decided to ignore another persons thoughts.
Hey man I really enjoyed watching this video and it described my thought processes accurately. For a time I went back and forth between istp and Intp and now I am pretty confident in my best fit type. Keep up the good work. 😎
Very true about artistic ability. Or rather a certain ability to effectively employ imagination toward a problem, an ability that may be latent but with deliberate effort can be exercised until it becomes second nature.
13:59 LOL!!!!