FANTASTIC video 🤘🏼There is SOOOOO much to learn about knives, Im into knives for over 30 years now and I learn new stuff monthly sometimes weekly 😁 Also its always great to see you two guys together, I appreciate the shoutout as well, hahaha 😁
Two SoundCloud rapper name suggestions: Jimp Daddy (first single: “Jimpin’ Ain’t Easy”), or Lil Choil I really enjoyed this discussion! Thanks for making these videos.
This was better than sitting through any Big Name Superhero movie! An hour of talking with Ben and Zac is like hanging out with the guys in the basement just shooting the breeze the whole time!
The wave Karambit is setup correctly for right hand. The knife is meant to be deployed in a inverted grip. So for that one you grab and pull forward so the wave catches on the front seam of your pocket. As opposed to a knife with a wave that is held blade upwards and the wave catches on the rear of the pocket seam.
Zacks rapper name( Lil Banter )representing the edc Boys...great video it's good to relive some of theses things..I carry a full size grip tip up and a crkt crossbones tip up if I need to be more persice...but I am a fix blade guy and whenever I can i carry an esse izula 2 with a acid wash finish...and when I can ill have a Banter tricked out and a lander to die the scales myself good work fellas...and zack when are you going to design a knife?? and ben what about a fixed blade banter???
To give you answer on why I carry one of my blades tip down is that I like to carry in my left hand pocket and it is a right hand carry clip for up or down.
Ok, seriously, this is hands down the BEST video I’ve ever seen you two do. OMG! This felt like I was sitting there with you and, wow, do I wish I could have been. This is the type of knife discussion I crave. While my dad could talk guns all day long, he doesn’t get the knife thing. I buy him new knives and he likes them, but he just doesn’t get it. Just like I don’t totally get the gun thing. This was amazing to watch. I laughed often through this, but I got a big case of the giggles during the “Sheepsfoot, modified sheepsfoot, modified wharncliffe” part. I have a particular fondness for that blade shape and of those knives in my collection they all look relatively the same but are all classified as something different. It’s hilarious, but it’s what makes it fun. I recently had a discussion like this with a coworker who knows nothing about knives but asked me about getting a “good one” for her boyfriend. She actually challenged me a bit by asking me questions like, “What makes this good? Why is that a better knife than this one? Why that blade shape and not this one?” I had a great time explaining things to her and realized I know more than I thought and am actually a little bit knowledgeable on this subject. A lot of that is due to you two. I loved the part where you guys were talking about how “ruining” your knife is part of the learning process and not only acceptable but expected in order to learn. That is so true. I have a Kabar Dozier that’s still in pieces after I tried a mod that just did not work. But I kept it because, well, maybe one day I’ll figure it out. Fantastic video, guys. Seriously, I settled in with a cup of coffee to watch and smiled the whole time.
If I could have the time back I’ve spent watching UA-cam videos about knives, my company would be worth MILLIONS. This is THE BEST video I’ve ever watched on knives in my life. SO FUN
Carry tip down for safety if the knife has thumb studs. When removing the knife from your pocket the thumb stud can snag on the edge of the pocket. If it is tip up the knife will come open! If it is tip down it will hold closed. I learned this the scary way when my Benchmade Nakamura came open on the way out of my pocket. This is also why I prefer Spydie hole opening, no snags.
Talking about the pocket clips I think the Kershaw leek is a good example of practical tip down pocket clip. Imagine you are an average pocket knife user that doesn’t use the knife a ton but when you need it you have it in your pocket. Therefore you keep it in your left pocket (assuming your right handed) to keep it out of mind and less likely to scratch your car.(found that left was better and never had an issue being a valet driver for a year) and also not scratch or impede grabbing your phone out of your pocket which you use more and need it quick sometimes. Now that it’s in your left pocket the tip down aspect is very important for grabbing it out with you left hand and giving it to your right hand seamlessly without having to reorient the knife do to the back of the handle facing the inside of the pocket while the back of the blade faces the seem at the edge and also holds it in place incase of the life accidentally opening in your pocket.(This is where Ken onion is also smart because if you carry it in your right pocket with the blade potentially opening it’s atleast still tip down so you have less chance to feel a surprise when you jam your hand into your pocket and also the lock on the blade can eliminate that completely). In addition to the left pocket carry and the back of the blade facing the seem you can reach across your body with your right hand and grab the knife easily due to it not being deep cary and have the perfect position in your hand to open it. Now lastly the position of the clip on the blade is also advantageous in the way of a very slim knife profile feeling larger where you would want it to near the top of the knife for control and comfort due to the clip making the knife feel wider in hand while also still not creating hotspots. Although this isn’t always the case depending on how the clip is designed and where the creator intends the clip to be originally and how well it works when changing it to your preferred clip position. I think this is where left hand tip down carry comes into play because it does the same thing I’m talking about but for left handed users who like to keep the knife in their right pocket and likes tip down for the above said reasons. Overall I think that the knife community prefers deep carry tip up right side carry because they use their knifes a lot And aren’t effected by the things such as harder access to phone and being more likely to land on their right hip during activities like skating, mountain biking, or being a crazy person and sliding around on the ground more than one should on their right hip haha. Also the deep cary is better for people at work or people who want to be less conspicuous but have a slightly harder time accessing the knife but not being more worth than a chuck of the knife sticking out of your pocket. I think a lot of common knife users have either thought hard about what is best for them or haven’t thought about it at all and just gone with what the knife comes with and shoved it in their preferred pocket. Either way there’s no right answer but I was sharing the reason I think that there is usability for left and right side tip down carry. TLDR: tip down is better for non dominant hand pocket carry incase of freak opening accidents phone in dominant pocket and possibly added girth towards the top instead of back of the handle.
I use tip down only when I carry in a left pocket as a secondary. Being right handed I have less coordination with my left hand and typically you can get a quicker grip with less required dexterity. But tip up right always.
New to the channel. Just finished watching this. Loved it. I'm an intermittent EDC knife carrier. I prefer thumb studs, tip up.... But whenever I carry a thumb hole knife, I carry it tip down. For some reason it is more comfortable for me to carry and open a thumb hole knife like Zac describes around the 58 minutes mark . That's the best argument I got.
Greatest hour of my life! Awesome to see you guys together as always and this was an absolutely epic video. Super fun to watch and learn. Loved doing the quiz too, broken or not. More of this, please!
As of August 1, 2022 it is now legal to own and carry an automatic or OTF switchblade in Louisiana, the exception of New Orleans and Baton Rouge. I am happy now that I can carry knives I have owned for years that I purchased in other states!
This is hands down my favorite knife video I’ve ever watched. I’ve been carrying EDC for years, but didn’t get into the culture of it. I’m now starting to pay attention to what I carry and your channel, along with this video, has been a real eye opener to the world of gear. I’m super stoked to start organizing my carry and purchasing more items. Next up, Pocket Trash and down the rabbit hole. 😂 😂
A type of hawkbill is also a lineman’s or wireman’s knife used for stripping the insulation off cable for splicing or terminating. It’s a different design than the knife shown here.. It’s been part of my EDC for years.
What a great video. Makes me miss Knife Banter. Blade HQ doesn’t have much content anymore. You two are great together! This will only help more people understand knives. Thanks
Remember the blade steel and the tempering process (heat treat), work in tandem with each other as well. Think making food...you can use all the high end ingredients you want like ribeye steak, but of you wanted it rare, but it was served well done; it isn't what you are looking for. Heat treat is the same way, or so I have heard. S35VN has differences in its tempering process, I was watching a testing video that showed the differences in its performance. [I am to cheap to buy knives.]
I am a lefty and the CRKT Apache II pocket clip is positioned tip down. Love the ATS34 blade steel and profile but was never a fan of liner locks, aluminum scales, Teflon coatings or big pocket clips, which this knife has, but this knife has been carried everywhere for over twenty years. Not sure why CRKT made it the perfect EDC knife for this lefty but they did! All of my other folders are tip up.
Oh my gosh… I just found your channel and I love it!!! My best friends husband has really gotten into knives the last few years and he has pulled us with him. I’m building my collection slowly. So far I’m just at mid-level range knives. I have a few knives that are two to $300 knives. I have a Ray Kirk knife (from forged in fire). I got to meet him at a knife show and then I had him custom make me a knife. They are both straight blades. A little harder for a woman to carry because I usually don’t wear a belt. But I cherish those knives. more recently I’ve gotten into pocket knives. I’m trying to learn and your channel is so helpful. Thank you so much for making the vids. And you’re right… the community is just such a cool community. You meet people and then trade knives. it just brings me back to my childhood. I remember trading knives when I was about 10 years old in the 80s. Such a fun time. Take care you guys.
Jeez, it's like coming home. I've always loved knives. The last ten years I've learned a ton. From your past employer to owning the knife world. Thanks guys, I love you videos.
I carry some knives tip down. Why? In my job i have to jump up and down from machines, loadingcontainers etc. Linerlocks, Framelocks, Axislocks, they all openend in my pocket because of the jumping. just the tip sticking out, when you pull out your knive from the pocket, you cut the pants. I carry a lot of Spydercos tip down, this way you can spydieflick them right out of the pocket. and i carry a lot of knives TD because of the clip, just feels better in the hand.
I’ve watched this video all the way through more than once. A perfect thing to listen to Monday at work. You and Ben make a good team, hope to see more from you as a duo in the future
Honestly I would call a Bowie a clip point because the way you forge it is by clipping the point at an angle and then when you are forging in the bevels it gets that famous point , the knife showcased that is officially called a clipped point is a lot more feasible to forge without clipping anything
New to the knife world, i picked up a Kershaw Covalent. Noticed when you guys were talking about the finger/sharpening choil and how nobody really does both. Looked at my knife and the blade has a clear sharpening choil, but the flipper kind of acts like a finger choil with a bit of jimping! Never noticed this kind of stuff on knives thanks guys!
Videos like this.. knife tv.. are my literal favorite. Watched this video 3 times just to make sure I didn't miss anything. Love Zack and Ben going back to old school banters while trying to inform.
Love the video, and so much is right. I would say that Larrin Thomas (who developed Magnacut) added something to blade steels by developing equations that predict (to an extent) steel performance based on the composition of the steel. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that means that you, we, someone could make a steel that outperforms previous steels because we could circumvent some of the amount of trial and error (and personal investment) that previously went into steel development. Seriously, correct me if I'm wrong
Thank you SO much for this. As a new convert to the knife and EDC world, this is exactly what I needed. I bought my first knife this week, a Green micarta Baby Banter!! I just wish I could get hold of the Lander in the UK!! Thanks again guys, really appreciate it.
Dude!!!!! It’s like I was watching knife banter………. It’s been so long 😢. You two keep collaborating. The world needs this. Oh and you can bring Kurt along too 😊
I find tip down carry is much easier if the knife is being carried in a breast pocket. A lot of times, in the winter, I will use my coats breast pocket to carry my knife. Tip down is a lot easier to get to when the knife is coming out from higher level. If that makes any sense
The 3rd and most popular choil…the “FIRPENING” choil. This device is used when a company can longer decide between a legitimate finger choil or a useful sharpening choil. 😊
Always great to see Ben just about anywhere. He brings delightful to any show. This is the most educational segment ever. Thank you for clearing a few things for us whom are new to the knife community. Cowabunga Zac.!
I think you guys are on to something with these educational videos. Keep it going please. Too many channels out there feel like a commercial for a knife. Great job!!!
The first time I've seen this video, I'm very familiar with the terminology. And you are correct in the vagueness of many aspects of blade shape, blade materials are in constant evolution, when I was younger 440C was considered a high end knife steel, today it resides near the bottom, maybe one step above 8cr13mov which is basically butter knife grade steel.
Do people actually believe S30V is mid tier? In terms of wear resistance, it’s better than MagnaCut. It has great edge stability at lower angles, so you can sharpen it to 15-17 degrees per side and the edge won’t roll. Companies like Benchmade and Spyderco have perfected the heat treatment of S30V to the point where I’d prefer it over newer steels. I absolutely love S30V, lmao.
I carry a tip down Benchmade full-size folding adamas (not the automatic) every day. I carry it on my left hip with the pocket clip on the right side carry. I carry it this way so a folding adamas is coming out and down in a reverse hammer grip. This is one of 4-5 Benchmade knives I Cary everyday. The only one I carry tip down. By the way I call my folding adamas “THE POWER TOP”
for clip position it really depends on the knife position on the body and how you want the knife edge deployed and the spine of the blade should be resting on the seem of the pocket to act as a secondary protection from having it be opened in the pocket i.e: - for front right carry knife edge up and away from the body, clip right tip up - for back right carry and edge up and away from the body, clip right tip down - work belt carry always tip down because some times there isn't a seem to rest the spine against
I listened to this whole thing and did not get bored. Loved it! I did not realize so many of these innovations were so recent. My favorite feature is the Kit Carson flipper. Hate thumb studs.
Great video! Love the enthusiasm! A word about Tactical Knives. I was a contributing editor for a number of years and most of the articles I wrote were about the outdoors and bushcraft and not self defense and sharpened prybars. Also, Walker is credited with the invention of the liner lock but I'm fairly sure there were liner lock/slip joint knives that predate the Walker lock. Old Timer and many electrician knives come to mind.
Love all the info here. That Big Banter has me going crazy. I can't wait! The knife world evolves so fast if you're out of the game 2 years you're lost. Sound Cloud Rapper Zac the Wild Blade.
Just found channel and you guys are great! I'm new to knives, my wife got me a bugout for my birthday just have to wait another week 😮💨. I love how you guys keep us noobs involved. It's not just for experienced, you make everybody feel welcome. Just subscribed keep up the great work!
This video is one of the best things I’ve watched all year and to top it off, it was over an HOUR LONG. I think the only big thing (imo) you guys missed was different pivot materials, like why bearings can be better than washers, etc. I may be wrong but I’ve already watched this twice now and don’t feel like skimming it to prove myself wrong.
Also another note I remember. But recently I did a force patina to my copper beglieter (however the hell you spell it), and I was explaining to my brother the process and they stopped me mid sentence to clarify what I meant when I said (scales). Lol I didn’t think twice about my terminology until then. I guess after a couple years of the hobby you truly do use the lingo casually.
My EDC is a Kobalt drop point pivot lock AO that I cut serrations into and reprofiled the point on. Previously it was an elite tactical pivot lock AO tanto semi serrated (two different models). I've also forged a few fixed blade knives and modified a couple fixed blade neck knives. I absolutely hate liner lock and frame lock. Lockback, pivot lock, plunge lock/button lock and fixed blade are my preferred.
I just got my lander,sticker an lifesaver today lol I love it’s the black stonewash I really like this knife going to be my EDC for the foreseeable future
Abs of steel checking in here. Just stopped by to say sorry about the quiz. That was a wild one! 🤣
lol
good to see you!
Thanks for the apology! That took balls of steel 👌
@@Starr_unlimited or at least ceramic bearings? 😏
Ben, is that quiz still online?
Zac, aka Heat Treat's next album's gonna be 🔥.
So he's not going under the name "Flipper" then? 😂🤡
Album name m369
Here for it
😂😂
So did he drop a single as Heat Treat?
Zacky Zac and the Folding Bunch - and make Ben take part in it
Love it!
yes
@@zacinthewild Not sure the timeframe for 120 likes but...
With every Zac and Ben video the world becomes a better place.
Rap names because this needs to happen:
DJ DropShut. Busta Blade. Lil Compact. MC Micarta. DJ Dusty Pivot.
With their #1 hit - “Tearin’ Up Your Pants Pockets” 💥🔥💥
Yes! Over one hour of Ben and Zac. Gettin' that banter vibe.
It’s wild and fun🤘😎
Absolutely
That history at the end was me!!!! Thank you guys so much for reading it!!!!!
Thumbs up! That was pretty epic!!! Hahaha
Poet!
FANTASTIC video 🤘🏼There is SOOOOO much to learn about knives, Im into knives for over 30 years now and I learn new stuff monthly sometimes weekly 😁 Also its always great to see you two guys together, I appreciate the shoutout as well, hahaha 😁
Two SoundCloud rapper name suggestions: Jimp Daddy (first single: “Jimpin’ Ain’t Easy”), or Lil Choil
I really enjoyed this discussion! Thanks for making these videos.
This was better than sitting through any Big Name Superhero movie!
An hour of talking with Ben and Zac is like hanging out with the guys in the basement just shooting the breeze the whole time!
you don’t have particularly high standards do you. Is a “big name super hero movie” like the pinnacle of entertainment to you? 😂
The wave Karambit is setup correctly for right hand. The knife is meant to be deployed in a inverted grip. So for that one you grab and pull forward so the wave catches on the front seam of your pocket. As opposed to a knife with a wave that is held blade upwards and the wave catches on the rear of the pocket seam.
Absolutely stellar vid guys - let's get DJ front flip and MC micarta on the stage 🤣🤣
MC Micarta is the clear winner!
I watched the whole video and loved every second of it, clear explanations for beginners and you two are just so charismatic, keep it up!
Zacks rapper name( Lil Banter )representing the edc Boys...great video it's good to relive some of theses things..I carry a full size grip tip up and a crkt crossbones tip up if I need to be more persice...but I am a fix blade guy and whenever I can i carry an esse izula 2 with a acid wash finish...and when I can ill have a Banter tricked out and a lander to die the scales myself good work fellas...and zack when are you going to design a knife?? and ben what about a fixed blade banter???
So excited to watch! Hour of y’all definently fills up the happy meter.
So glad to hear!🤘
Watching you guys converse about knives is so refreshing to me. Thanks for doing what you love.
To give you answer on why I carry one of my blades tip down is that I like to carry in my left hand pocket and it is a right hand carry clip for up or down.
Ok, seriously, this is hands down the BEST video I’ve ever seen you two do. OMG! This felt like I was sitting there with you and, wow, do I wish I could have been. This is the type of knife discussion I crave. While my dad could talk guns all day long, he doesn’t get the knife thing. I buy him new knives and he likes them, but he just doesn’t get it. Just like I don’t totally get the gun thing. This was amazing to watch. I laughed often through this, but I got a big case of the giggles during the “Sheepsfoot, modified sheepsfoot, modified wharncliffe” part. I have a particular fondness for that blade shape and of those knives in my collection they all look relatively the same but are all classified as something different. It’s hilarious, but it’s what makes it fun. I recently had a discussion like this with a coworker who knows nothing about knives but asked me about getting a “good one” for her boyfriend. She actually challenged me a bit by asking me questions like, “What makes this good? Why is that a better knife than this one? Why that blade shape and not this one?” I had a great time explaining things to her and realized I know more than I thought and am actually a little bit knowledgeable on this subject. A lot of that is due to you two. I loved the part where you guys were talking about how “ruining” your knife is part of the learning process and not only acceptable but expected in order to learn. That is so true. I have a Kabar Dozier that’s still in pieces after I tried a mod that just did not work. But I kept it because, well, maybe one day I’ll figure it out. Fantastic video, guys. Seriously, I settled in with a cup of coffee to watch and smiled the whole time.
This is seriously one of the best videos in the knife world. Unparalelled information and conversation.
I love how easy it is to listen to these two talk about knives
You guys should absolutely start a podcast. Haven't been able to find a good EDC/ knife podcast i can really sink into
If I could have the time back I’ve spent watching UA-cam videos about knives, my company would be worth MILLIONS. This is THE BEST video I’ve ever watched on knives in my life. SO FUN
Zacs rapper name absolutely needs to be "Lil Pointy"
also ben should give away some of those sweet ass big banters for those of us with the hams
Carry tip down for safety if the knife has thumb studs. When removing the knife from your pocket the thumb stud can snag on the edge of the pocket. If it is tip up the knife will come open! If it is tip down it will hold closed. I learned this the scary way when my Benchmade Nakamura came open on the way out of my pocket. This is also why I prefer Spydie hole opening, no snags.
2 nice guys giving educational knife lessons, with a beautifully edited video? I'm here for this all day! 👍😁👍
I love that you made this video! I am new to the knife world and find all of this information fascinating! Thank you!
I would watch a 2 hour and 7 minute video with you guys talking knives!! Loved every minute of it.
You got to watch an hour more than me. How did you do that?
@@HenryPipes ... did it twice
Talking about the pocket clips I think the Kershaw leek is a good example of practical tip down pocket clip. Imagine you are an average pocket knife user that doesn’t use the knife a ton but when you need it you have it in your pocket. Therefore you keep it in your left pocket (assuming your right handed) to keep it out of mind and less likely to scratch your car.(found that left was better and never had an issue being a valet driver for a year) and also not scratch or impede grabbing your phone out of your pocket which you use more and need it quick sometimes. Now that it’s in your left pocket the tip down aspect is very important for grabbing it out with you left hand and giving it to your right hand seamlessly without having to reorient the knife do to the back of the handle facing the inside of the pocket while the back of the blade faces the seem at the edge and also holds it in place incase of the life accidentally opening in your pocket.(This is where Ken onion is also smart because if you carry it in your right pocket with the blade potentially opening it’s atleast still tip down so you have less chance to feel a surprise when you jam your hand into your pocket and also the lock on the blade can eliminate that completely). In addition to the left pocket carry and the back of the blade facing the seem you can reach across your body with your right hand and grab the knife easily due to it not being deep cary and have the perfect position in your hand to open it. Now lastly the position of the clip on the blade is also advantageous in the way of a very slim knife profile feeling larger where you would want it to near the top of the knife for control and comfort due to the clip making the knife feel wider in hand while also still not creating hotspots. Although this isn’t always the case depending on how the clip is designed and where the creator intends the clip to be originally and how well it works when changing it to your preferred clip position. I think this is where left hand tip down carry comes into play because it does the same thing I’m talking about but for left handed users who like to keep the knife in their right pocket and likes tip down for the above said reasons. Overall I think that the knife community prefers deep carry tip up right side carry because they use their knifes a lot And aren’t effected by the things such as harder access to phone and being more likely to land on their right hip during activities like skating, mountain biking, or being a crazy person and sliding around on the ground more than one should on their right hip haha. Also the deep cary is better for people at work or people who want to be less conspicuous but have a slightly harder time accessing the knife but not being more worth than a chuck of the knife sticking out of your pocket. I think a lot of common knife users have either thought hard about what is best for them or haven’t thought about it at all and just gone with what the knife comes with and shoved it in their preferred pocket. Either way there’s no right answer but I was sharing the reason I think that there is usability for left and right side tip down carry.
TLDR: tip down is better for non dominant hand pocket carry incase of freak opening accidents phone in dominant pocket and possibly added girth towards the top instead of back of the handle.
I use tip down only when I carry in a left pocket as a secondary. Being right handed I have less coordination with my left hand and typically you can get a quicker grip with less required dexterity. But tip up right always.
New to the channel. Just finished watching this. Loved it.
I'm an intermittent EDC knife carrier. I prefer thumb studs, tip up.... But whenever I carry a thumb hole knife, I carry it tip down. For some reason it is more comfortable for me to carry and open a thumb hole knife like Zac describes around the 58 minutes mark . That's the best argument I got.
Greatest hour of my life! Awesome to see you guys together as always and this was an absolutely epic video. Super fun to watch and learn. Loved doing the quiz too, broken or not. More of this, please!
Can we please all agree on Kid Cutti on Zac's sound cloud alias. It sounds pretty sharp to me
As of August 1, 2022 it is now legal to own and carry an automatic or OTF switchblade in Louisiana, the exception of New Orleans and Baton Rouge. I am happy now that I can carry knives I have owned for years that I purchased in other states!
I remember I was so sad to see Ben leave knife banter but now you guys are back at it again
Hands down the BEST knife content on the interwebs. Ben and Zac are like peanut butter and jelly, love and marriage.......
For a rapper name: Kid Cutty, Kut Above Tha Rest, Zytel Zac, or DJ M390.
This is hands down my favorite knife video I’ve ever watched. I’ve been carrying EDC for years, but didn’t get into the culture of it. I’m now starting to pay attention to what I carry and your channel, along with this video, has been a real eye opener to the world of gear. I’m super stoked to start organizing my carry and purchasing more items. Next up, Pocket Trash and down the rabbit hole. 😂 😂
A type of hawkbill is also a lineman’s or wireman’s knife used for stripping the insulation off cable for splicing or terminating. It’s a different design than the knife shown here.. It’s been part of my EDC for years.
What a great video. Makes me miss Knife Banter. Blade HQ doesn’t have much content anymore. You two are great together! This will only help more people understand knives. Thanks
Miss this pairing immensely!
EmCee Wild Grinds and the Banter Bunch. That song is going to hit! Lol
That Quote at 1:05:50 was amazing that entire thing was awesome
That was a nice, informative, entertaining disorganized conversation. 😊
Remember the blade steel and the tempering process (heat treat), work in tandem with each other as well.
Think making food...you can use all the high end ingredients you want like ribeye steak, but of you wanted it rare, but it was served well done; it isn't what you are looking for.
Heat treat is the same way, or so I have heard. S35VN has differences in its tempering process, I was watching a testing video that showed the differences in its performance.
[I am to cheap to buy knives.]
I am a lefty and the CRKT Apache II pocket clip is positioned tip down. Love the ATS34 blade steel and profile but was never a fan of liner locks, aluminum scales, Teflon coatings or big pocket clips, which this knife has, but this knife has been carried everywhere for over twenty years. Not sure why CRKT made it the perfect EDC knife for this lefty but they did! All of my other folders are tip up.
First knife I made, I hardened it with charcoal, bricks, hair dryer and vegetable oil. Great work guys.
If you release more of these videos, I will cancel my subscription with Netflix.
1st Class content we got here!
Please more! 🙏🏼
Love the vids as always and can’t wait for Zac-bougieblade to drop the hottest single of the fall
🤣🤣
This was just about the best knife video I have ever seen. "Then man found sharp rock" 👌 beautiful.
Oh my gosh… I just found your channel and I love it!!!
My best friends husband has really gotten into knives the last few years and he has pulled us with him. I’m building my collection slowly. So far I’m just at mid-level range knives. I have a few knives that are two to $300 knives. I have a Ray Kirk knife (from forged in fire). I got to meet him at a knife show and then I had him custom make me a knife. They are both straight blades. A little harder for a woman to carry because I usually don’t wear a belt. But I cherish those knives. more recently I’ve gotten into pocket knives. I’m trying to learn and your channel is so helpful. Thank you so much for making the vids. And you’re right…
the community is just such a cool community. You meet people and then trade knives. it just brings me back to my childhood. I remember trading knives when I was about 10 years old in the 80s. Such a fun time. Take care you guys.
Jeez, it's like coming home. I've always loved knives. The last ten years I've learned a ton. From your past employer to owning the knife world. Thanks guys, I love you videos.
I carry some knives tip down. Why? In my job i have to jump up and down from machines, loadingcontainers etc.
Linerlocks, Framelocks, Axislocks, they all openend in my pocket because of the jumping. just the tip sticking out, when you pull out your knive from the pocket, you cut the pants.
I carry a lot of Spydercos tip down, this way you can spydieflick them right out of the pocket.
and i carry a lot of knives TD because of the clip, just feels better in the hand.
I’ve watched this video all the way through more than once. A perfect thing to listen to Monday at work. You and Ben make a good team, hope to see more from you as a duo in the future
Can't wait to hear the EP by Yung Scratch over here
Zac's rapper name should be "2 Blades"!
Honestly I would call a Bowie a clip point because the way you forge it is by clipping the point at an angle and then when you are forging in the bevels it gets that famous point , the knife showcased that is officially called a clipped point is a lot more feasible to forge without clipping anything
This video is like the lesson and the poster is the crib notes copied from a friend. Love it. Good to see the trip back together.
This has been the best comprehensive knife explanation video I’ve ever seen. Good job guys!
New to the knife world, i picked up a Kershaw Covalent. Noticed when you guys were talking about the finger/sharpening choil and how nobody really does both. Looked at my knife and the blade has a clear sharpening choil, but the flipper kind of acts like a finger choil with a bit of jimping! Never noticed this kind of stuff on knives thanks guys!
Hour long knife banter. I love it!! Forwarding this to a couple of friends who’ve asked me about all these details.
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Videos like this.. knife tv.. are my literal favorite. Watched this video 3 times just to make sure I didn't miss anything. Love Zack and Ben going back to old school banters while trying to inform.
Love the video, and so much is right. I would say that Larrin Thomas (who developed Magnacut) added something to blade steels by developing equations that predict (to an extent) steel performance based on the composition of the steel. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that means that you, we, someone could make a steel that outperforms previous steels because we could circumvent some of the amount of trial and error (and personal investment) that previously went into steel development. Seriously, correct me if I'm wrong
I'm digging that big banter with the coated blades and micarta handles!
Thank you SO much for this. As a new convert to the knife and EDC world, this is exactly what I needed.
I bought my first knife this week, a Green micarta Baby Banter!!
I just wish I could get hold of the Lander in the UK!!
Thanks again guys, really appreciate it.
Dude!!!!! It’s like I was watching knife banter………. It’s been so long 😢. You two keep collaborating. The world needs this. Oh and you can bring Kurt along too 😊
Such a great video! I love seeing you guys hanging out, talking knives again!!!
such good flow, this video in itself is very organic and clean. Well done
I could listen to you two talk about knives all day!
What a great video for a cold, windy, miserable day! Great content!
I find tip down carry is much easier if the knife is being carried in a breast pocket. A lot of times, in the winter, I will use my coats breast pocket to carry my knife. Tip down is a lot easier to get to when the knife is coming out from higher level. If that makes any sense
The 3rd and most popular choil…the “FIRPENING” choil. This device is used when a company can longer decide between a legitimate finger choil or a useful sharpening choil. 😊
It is so f*cking nice to see you both united and rant about knives...I love it and could listen to you for days 😃
You guys + Taylor Martin are the reason I started collecting knives/multi tools
Listening to passionate people talk about their niche got me all sharp & fuzzy feeling. Well played much love.
Always great to see Ben just about anywhere. He brings delightful to any show. This is the most educational segment ever. Thank you for clearing a few things for us whom are new to the knife community. Cowabunga Zac.!
Zac aka: Lil' Compact
I think you guys are on to something with these educational videos. Keep it going please. Too many channels out there feel like a commercial for a knife. Great job!!!
This is 100% true. This vid was great!
Cant wait for a Lil' Magnacut feature popping up on soundcloud soon
The first time I've seen this video, I'm very familiar with the terminology. And you are correct in the vagueness of many aspects of blade shape, blade materials are in constant evolution, when I was younger 440C was considered a high end knife steel, today it resides near the bottom, maybe one step above 8cr13mov which is basically butter knife grade steel.
Rapper name: Deep Pocket Drip
wow! what a wealth of information. a video i will be sending to people to explain what i am talking about all the time.. absolutely kickass!!
I watched the entire video and thoroughly enjoyed it. It brought me back to my early collecting days watching you two on Blade HQ.
Do people actually believe S30V is mid tier? In terms of wear resistance, it’s better than MagnaCut. It has great edge stability at lower angles, so you can sharpen it to 15-17 degrees per side and the edge won’t roll.
Companies like Benchmade and Spyderco have perfected the heat treatment of S30V to the point where I’d prefer it over newer steels.
I absolutely love S30V, lmao.
Absolutely loved this episode. Informative and entertaining. Thanks guys.
More long form content please! This was awesome!
I carry a tip down Benchmade full-size folding adamas (not the automatic) every day. I carry it on my left hip with the pocket clip on the right side carry. I carry it this way so a folding adamas is coming out and down in a reverse hammer grip. This is one of 4-5 Benchmade knives I Cary everyday. The only one I carry tip down. By the way I call my folding adamas “THE POWER TOP”
for clip position it really depends on the knife position on the body and how you want the knife edge deployed and the spine of the blade should be resting on the seem of the pocket to act as a secondary protection from having it be opened in the pocket i.e:
- for front right carry knife edge up and away from the body, clip right tip up
- for back right carry and edge up and away from the body, clip right tip down
- work belt carry always tip down because some times there isn't a seem to rest the spine against
I listened to this whole thing and did not get bored. Loved it! I did not realize so many of these innovations were so recent. My favorite feature is the Kit Carson flipper. Hate thumb studs.
Love you guys! One of the best hour and 7 minutes I’ve had in a while
The best knife video on UA-cam
Great video! Love the enthusiasm! A word about Tactical Knives. I was a contributing editor for a number of years and most of the articles I wrote were about the outdoors and bushcraft and not self defense and sharpened prybars. Also, Walker is credited with the invention of the liner lock but I'm fairly sure there were liner lock/slip joint knives that predate the Walker lock. Old Timer and many electrician knives come to mind.
Love all the info here. That Big Banter has me going crazy. I can't wait! The knife world evolves so fast if you're out of the game 2 years you're lost. Sound Cloud Rapper Zac the Wild Blade.
Just found channel and you guys are great! I'm new to knives, my wife got me a bugout for my birthday just have to wait another week 😮💨. I love how you guys keep us noobs involved. It's not just for experienced, you make everybody feel welcome. Just subscribed keep up the great work!
It’s great to see y’all back on screen together
stumbled for my knife in the dark..seen the tritium thumb stud. guess i need it
Aw man, I thought you guys were going to read some of our answers... We worked so hard on them. 😭
I read a very epic one at the end. We will be sharing a bunch of the results on social too!
This video is one of the best things I’ve watched all year and to top it off, it was over an HOUR LONG. I think the only big thing (imo) you guys missed was different pivot materials, like why bearings can be better than washers, etc. I may be wrong but I’ve already watched this twice now and don’t feel like skimming it to prove myself wrong.
Also another note I remember. But recently I did a force patina to my copper beglieter (however the hell you spell it), and I was explaining to my brother the process and they stopped me mid sentence to clarify what I meant when I said (scales). Lol I didn’t think twice about my terminology until then. I guess after a couple years of the hobby you truly do use the lingo casually.
My EDC is a Kobalt drop point pivot lock AO that I cut serrations into and reprofiled the point on. Previously it was an elite tactical pivot lock AO tanto semi serrated (two different models). I've also forged a few fixed blade knives and modified a couple fixed blade neck knives. I absolutely hate liner lock and frame lock. Lockback, pivot lock, plunge lock/button lock and fixed blade are my preferred.
I just got my lander,sticker an lifesaver today lol I love it’s the black stonewash I really like this knife going to be my EDC for the foreseeable future
nutnfancy is who i started listening to when i first started into knives and guns took me awhile to care about knives but he got me into them
Großartige Unterhaltung, vielen Dank Jungs! 🙂
Beste Grüße aus Deutschland..........stay sharp & Peace,
Stephan