I got my bricknose IDI for $700. Put about $400 into it and it's never let me down. Already hauled horse trailer with 5000 lb over 2200 miles straight through
That is amazing m8! Very lucky! I picked up my 02 f250 4x4 crew cab short bed 7.3 powerstroke from an old farmer who bought a new truck and didn't want his anymore. It needed a radiator (clogged with dust/dirt from being a farm truck) and all fluids changed and she hasn't let me down either! Cheers!
I have to say, that was quite entertaining. I'll never load my 6.9 turbo that much but these trucks can do amazing things as long as you're not in a hurry. And even if things break, it doesn't cost much to fix. Keep the coal burning my friend.
@@matthewdaniels6307 Correct. No factory 6.9s were turbocharged. But many get turbocharged by dealers (when new), or by their owners. Banks, ATS, and Hypermax all made kits for them back in the day.
Thats how my 86 is it takes a minute to get there but when it gets there it want to keep going ill get up to speed and just keep going passing newer vehicles in my smoking steaming probably overheating pile of ford
I regularly towed a 6500 lb trailer behind my 92 non turbo between 5000 and 8000 feet. 2nd and 3rd are definitely the work gears up in the mountains, i cant imagine trying to pull 14000 lb up a pass with one of these two valve non turbo mills! They like sea level air and level roads
I ran across an 89 e350 7.3 yesterday and the guy gave me a great deal. I'll only be using it to other other vehicles. I keep hearing how weak they are and I really want mine to do what I need. It's in great shape. No rust and the interior is mint. Shows 63k miles and has oil change receipts that verify it. This made me more hopeful.
If you want to sell the diesel van I am considering one for work. I have an 87 efi inline 6 econoline right now. 500-800 miles a week and it gets 10-14 with ladder rack and fully loaded. Towing i fear single digits mpg
I bought a 93 idi f450 haven't towed alot been working on my trailer but soon she will be singing down the road. I got 4.63 gears should handle quite a bit more, but my speeds reduced due to rpm. I like to keep her at 65 at 2500rpm 2600rpm in fifth. I'm also on the flats in Texas the only hills I see are overpasses.
I thought the scenery looked familiar. WA?? This brings back memories of hauling scrap metal after school with my old idi back in the day. This was great.
Awesome run bud. I have a 02f350 dually. I towed my first load few days ago. Triple axle 40ft camper. Dry weight was 18,500. I was leary at first but see your video and said why not. I wish my truck had a zf6 but it's auto 4r100. I was amazed at how good it towed. Pulled hills fine and my egts never got above 950. I used a quarter tank of fuel on a 3 hr haul up north . So I was very impressed and decided I'm keeping this truck for sure.
Really 24 thousand pounds?, that is impressive, especially in the hills, that be a challenge even for a modern deisel pickup I'm glad to know they are that capable
Got the same truck, white ,7.3 with a 5 spd , 4.10 rear end , pulled great car hauler , with about 5,000 lbs plus trailer , needs an injection pump and 2 tires now .I plan on fixing it putting back on the road, I want to turbo it though next time
Fan clutches wear out can be a good idea to replace the unit. I got mine off of rock auto and you can choose how aggressive the engagement is or atleast I was able to for my 350. I dont tow a lot but changing the fan clutch made a big difference as it was worn out.
@@BRIANVANDUYN I'm not exactly sure. The factory temp gauge isn't very accurate. When it has kicked on, it's always been in the summer with a heavy load usually going up a long hill. The gauge will go to over 3/4 on the high side, then the fan engages and then you hear a ROARING noise that's unmistakable. . That sucker is LOUD. My 1984 Chevy 6.2L is the same way.
These trucks used zf5/zf6 trans which have tight tolerances, and needle bearings which require atf, not gear oil. That is the only reason for excessive heat buildup. Some f350+ cab chassis used the t18/19 4 speed until 90-91 no worries on overheating those transmissions....
Rebuilding my 94 after 582k Saying everything you've said for years, oh no a hill... "oh down to 3rd" "45 mph" "Getting hot" Oh lotsa smoke now...slowing down more lol. FINALLY snagged a clean 12v dodge all that is gone, now 65 any hill in Ca. 5th gear ac on. Thanks for reminding me not to tow with mine once done, off road beast only. Too dangerous being "that guy"
Oh a turbo would be sweet!!! The truck will tow way more than you’ll ever want behind it. Stopping it is what ya better keep a eye on, make sure you got your electric brakes working on your gooseneck. I’d check in on a HD clutch kit also for her. I love the vid’s buddy.
use to have a 1997 f350 7.3 powerstroke unloaded that truck would haul azz .. that truck is the only truck ive ever driven that could pass people on the highway to switch lanes easily with a 20ft car hauler loaded with zero turn mowers and scag walk behinds + other miscellaneous tools equipment .. would do 70mph loaded driving into the wind with pedal matted never got hot or complained.
I like the video! Quick FYI, using overdrive will not cause heat build up in a manual transmission. Only in an automatic towing a steep grade or when lockup cannot be achieved. The only concern for shifting will be engine power band and exhaust temps.
You are correct on that, however towing heavy on over drive still isn’t the best idea because those gears in the transmission are the smallest and there for the easiest to break. Also as the engine starts lugging and sending surges through the gear sets it’s easy to break the gear teeth. This is a fact of all manual transmission regardless of manufacture.
Hello Jake, you will notice that I very specifically mentioned the engine power band when speaking of shift points. Ideally, one should never shock load the drive train or be lugging their engine. I do not doubt that you have seen broken teeth and I am not a dedicated tranny mechanic but I have had numerous gear boxes apart both on my own and in trade school: OD certainly has the smallest main shaft gear but its counter shaft gear is the largest. First gear has the smallest counter shaft gear and the largest main shaft gear, so I do not understand what you mean when you say OD has the smallest gears. Perhaps you can share your thoughts and I can learn as well. MarkT, even a naturally aspirated engine can generate enough heat to melt a hole in your piston if you dump enough fuel into it. The owners manuals are very clear on that. If I could post pics here I could show you the metal fatigue on the piston crowns of my 6.9 IDI near where the flame front exits the precup. Combustion chamber temps are what matters, which are directly proportional to exhaust temps. It's just that we can easily measure the last but not the first. I do not recognize the term "drive pressure".
I’m going to end this discussion, don’t tow in OD, it puts torsional stress on the countershaft in the vertical direction, thus separating the countershaft from the main. Eventually it willl either wipe the bearings out or cause other issues
No turbo? I love my 04 triton V10 f350, I've puled a 18klb camper to Colorado from Tyler, Tx without a hitch. Truck was pulling up slopes nice and easy but I recently had to replace a bunch of sensors and Ive been making my own diesel because I can. I'm looking at trading the pig for a 87' idi turbo with a 2spd trans. It's a handsome truck but I need it to tow what the pig can if not more. I don't know what power it's making with the turbo. But watching your video gives me some hope on the trade.
I towed a 9k tracked skidsteer and came in a hair over 20,000 with my n/a 7.3 idi. Has 3:55 gears and a 5 speed so it didn't really love the hills but once I swap some 4:10s in and make a lighter bed should tow just as good as yours, I also just have a pintle trailer. Pump is turned up 3 flats on mine
That's the thing with idi's. They may not be quick but they will pull all day long. I've got a 94 idit swapped into an 85 f250 dually with a c6 sadly. It's my third idi. I love em. Kinda miss my cummins buuut I'm anxious to see what she does when I start tuning her up.
My old IDI FSuperduty trucks with 5.13 gears grossing 18,000lbs I was climbing highway grades at 30-40km/h (19-25 mph) in 2nd gear. Old IDI trucks don’t have top end power my FSuperduty trucks topped out at 80km/h (50mph) loaded or empty in 5th gear.
Graveltrucking yeah you’re problem isn’t/wasn’t the trucks power or ability to go fast it was the gearing 4.10s are better but still don’t like speed either take the same truck and put lower gears in them and they’ll go a lot faster than my truck or your truck with the big ass 5.13s. If you threw some smaller gears in there itd be able to go faster and get a lot better mileage
Yeah, like Operator Benji said, your issue is your gearing. My 84 F250 has an aftermarket 3.84 specifically put in it so it would actually be happy going at highway speeds. These trucks were made for torque, which means everything is geared as low as possible (numerically high)
I have the 91 7.3 idi dually. it says the max is only 12500 for towing but im wondering if itd be able to do a lot more. i rarely tow any weight at all though
Strong work. I tow my excavator with a 2000 PS F-350. Looking at your info we’re relatively close to each other. Maybe we will cross paths one of these days
Put a turbo and a water intercooler on it dont let boost hit over 12psi unless you have head studs. I have studs and intercooler with a 90cc pump and it pulls anything i have. My truck is a 85 with factory turbo with a 3inch down pipe and 3.5 inch exhaust. Max boost is 22 psi
What are the towing specs on an 89 7.3 single cab? I would think its nowhere near 25k lbs gross? not poking at you, I'm trying to understand how you can be legal at that weight - thanks
Is the engine stock? Or have you done some mods to it? I have a 93 350 idi dually, I want to do some mods to give it a little more power. I’m in the mountains of Arizona where elevations are 5,000 to 8,000, going up hills I get really slow, even only towing a travel trailer that weighs about 5,000lbs
The old guys that own these trucks will say "it may be slow but itll do it". My dad would tow 15k of lumber plus a service body up crazy steep dirt roads, just real real slow.
Yea if your looking to be fast you gotta get a newer diesel if you want something that’ll run forever and pull more than you need to just a bit slower than everyone else these old gals are the way to go
Great truck mate 👍 👌 with a manual transmission 👏👌👍 I have a excursión 7.3 but I would like to change for a manual transmission 🤔 I don't like vehicles with a automatic transmission 👎👎🤪 you keep your truck running mate cheers from Norway
@@BRIANVANDUYN You might get better fuel mileage if you open up the intake a little by adding a spacer and a cold air intake, then your engine can really breath like it's suppose to. You will notice a big difference in power and in fuel mileage.
I have no idea what the gvrw was I never passed a set of scales lol my ps isnt stock it never really struggled it did get on the warm side for a minute when pulling up a long grade at 70 lol
@@BRIANVANDUYN yea my dad has a 90 f250 and honestly when you get over 6lbs of boost youll feel it I never towed with my dad's though but mine it does just fine
@@BRIANVANDUYN if your towing that much I recommend doing head studs these old idis really shouldn't be pushed over 10lbs of boost without the fear of blowing head gaskets
@SolarBurrito yeah its a 360 camera and i can record in normal wide angle or i can record in 360 and in after production i have to manually select the point of view
@@BRIANVANDUYN ok. That’s pretty decent. Was just curious if the N/A got better or worse mileage. I run a 12v Cummins but have a lot of respect for OBS fords. In all honesty I think the trucks are a little better put together especially interior but I liked the simplicity of the 12v over the PS and the dodge had straight axle Dana 60 in the front. For some reason I have a soft spot for n/a diesels and if it was in the cards I’d own one with the old up to 85 interior. That’s a really cool truck you got there.
I just bought a 93 7.3L IDI non turbo. Plan on hauling a 39 foot 5th wheel camper that weighs 13500 dry. Any recommendations on what upgrades I should add to this truck?
I've got a 1990 7.3 idi 5 speed crewcab dually stock and I've had 13000lbs and it done fine once I got started . No mods or adjustments made to IP or motor . However I would recommend getting some gauges installed so you can monitor your truck better
I had an f350 dually with an after market turbo, 50k miles on it, it was reliable but just that. Hill's are that dump trucks worst enemy. Sold it and bought 3500 6.7 Cummins w 6spd manual and never looked back
Your dual mass flywheel is completely shot that's why it chatters so bad on take off. If you do not fix this immediately your bellhousing on your transmission will be cracked like a spider web if it isn't already and being a zf 5 speed that means a whole new transmission. I would replace clutch and flywheel with a 1 piece flywheel, the dual mass setup is a P.O.S. the springs go right away. I also hope you have a pyro cause I can tell your pumps turned up probably around 1.5 flats you don't want to touch 1200 F for very long. Many idi's have died because of the lack of a 100 dollar gauge. Treat the old girl with some TLC and she will always get you home.
Wouldn't feel comfortable hauling that much weight with my 12 valve its a 3/4 ton though too not a 1 ton. I'm in Pennsylvania we have to steep of grades to haul that much weight unless you have at the minimum 800-850 lb ft of torque. The mountains can be pretty tough over here most I'd feel good about is 15k not including the weight of the truck. So that'd be about 23k lbs altogether my 1st gen extended cab weighs about 7,890.
My friend use to have a idi I can't imagine how damn slow that truck is grossing 24k his truck was ungodly slow empty lol. Ive got a 14 6.7 Cummins deleted and regeard with 4.56 gears and I've grossed right @ 25k on a cat scale . I definitely knew it was back there lol
Not towing 25k, 25k with 7-8lb k included. Towing 18k more like but still cool. Thank mini looks to be a 10k machine and likely a 5-7k trailer plus whatever is in the bed...
BRIAN VANDUYN is that because your having issues or just the power difference? I just went to go look at 83 6.9 single cab 4 speed non-turbo today. Any info would be very helpful
BRIAN VANDUYN is that because your having issues or just the power difference? I just went to go look at 83 6.9 single cab 4 speed non-turbo today. Any info would be very helpful
I actually pull heavy with idi ford pickups and a international S series and I thought your truck did well for pulling a 25k trailer with a N/A idi ,but when you pulled up to the scales it shows your not pulling 25k your pulling around 17,500lbs. Don't include the weight of your pickup and say that's what your pulling to make your load sound heavy your gross overall weight truck and trailer is 25k.
we had a 8600lb forklift on a trailer, 1991 7.3l turbo .05 over pistons stage 1.5 injectors. going up some 10+% grades (long hills, bout this whole video worth of climbing) and that thing would not pull it, first gear 30km/h and the water overheated halfway up.
@@Donkusdelux There must of been something not dialed in right. There is no such thing as stage 1.5 injectors. There is moose injectors,dps, and r and d. All the injectors have is different tips so they empty faster. Turbo idi's pull very good when enough fuel is supplied and running around 12psi boost in a healthy motor. My 3 ton s1654 is a non turbo 7.3 and it pulls better than the turbo one you mentioned.
@@wildrosegarage4208 you should look into stage 1.5 some more, they make them, and thats what I bought when I shaved the heads, upgraded the valves and put the turbo on it My truck is 3.55 gears, i think that is why it doesnt pull well. it will do 180km/h no load 10psi. 4" exhaust, enough fuel to make her dump black when you work it. And i am going up long hills, you climb 4000feet in 20min, the 1999 f550 superduty we have climbs those moutians easy. but the idi just fights it until it overheats, pulling 12k lbs on the flats it runs cool, right at the bottom of "normal" on the dash. Im going to get another 7.3 f350 superduty that last pull we had oil dumping out the rear main seal.
@@Donkusdelux let me no who makes stage 1.5 injectors so i know for next time i need some. The best factory injectors is a BB code. Stage 1s have the tips cut off to alow them to dump quicker they dont realy give you much more fuel if any they are just less restrictive, fueling is all in the pump and a factory pump is around 80cc . As for stage 1.5 this is the first i have heard of it and how they could allow more fuel with out a db2 injection pump that can give more fuel is beyond me. I have been playing with idi's for a very long time.
@@wildrosegarage4208 id have to pull one out and look at the name but i went to a diesel shop and i chose them, but pretty sure we turned our pump up a bit. we have also been working on idi's for a long time, there is not much we havent done to these,.... going to be moving to the superduty 7.3, little harder to work on but they are a tougher engine, had a friend who run 40psi of boost on a stock motor and he sold the truck at 340k km still ran fine and would roast the tires right off it, our first turbo idi melted the valves from 10 psi
Uh oh, I can see another weight rating war about to happen. I don’t know the exact specs for your truck, but I am certain that you are over. I am pr etty sure Ford set the max GCVWR gross combined weight rating at less than 18,000 lbs for that truck. I think the GVWR was around 8,800 for just the truck. Your door tag will show the GVWR. I am sure more will chime in on this one. Huge topic on the forums. Have to say though, she was pulling her own!
@@Johnditit yeah what makes me sick is how manufacturers dont tell you what their product can actually do because they are trying to cover their back side. Im sure you are some where on point i havent really looked into it that much honestly i did read that the gas powered f350 was rated for a lot higher probably because they where trying to push the gas motors maybe cheaper to produce , .... idk why. , i think it towed great and the electric brakes on the trailer had plenty of stopping power. Sure it was slower than most 4 wheelers going down the road but she was working ! I just cant justify spending 50+k on a new diesel pickup that the door says i can tow..... when this pickup is doing it for 10k.....
Yeah, but those weight ratings kinda become useless as the vehicle ages, or if you start modifying it. Like mine has a dually adapter kit on it, and an aftermarket rear dif, and I have a 5 speed trans to throw in it. So the weight rating on the door tag really isn't super accurate.
Man this video was awesome 👌. It feels good to see another 7.3 doing what it does best!! I love towing with mine. Keep it up, she's doing great!!
@GC's Journey thanks man subscribe and share thanks again for watching i made her work !
@@BRIANVANDUYN Done!! And your welcome!!
Hey I just bought a new 1990 DWR 7.3 IDI manual but I wanted to know what you need to do to it to tow that much ?
I didnt really do anything to it
@@BRIANVANDUYN oh wow! I am even more excited to get it running
the thing about the old IDI's is that they are kinda slow, but you'll get where ever you're going while pulling the house with you.
I got my bricknose IDI for $700. Put about $400 into it and it's never let me down. Already hauled horse trailer with 5000 lb over 2200 miles straight through
That is amazing m8! Very lucky!
I picked up my 02 f250 4x4 crew cab short bed 7.3 powerstroke from an old farmer who bought a new truck and didn't want his anymore. It needed a radiator (clogged with dust/dirt from being a farm truck) and all fluids changed and she hasn't let me down either! Cheers!
I have to say, that was quite entertaining. I'll never load my 6.9 turbo that much but these trucks can do amazing things as long as you're not in a hurry. And even if things break, it doesn't cost much to fix. Keep the coal burning my friend.
Lol roll the coal. Don’t burn it lmao
Look up "coal burning"
6.9s were non turbo and the early 7.3 non turbos,were basically the same engine
@@matthewdaniels6307 Correct. No factory 6.9s were turbocharged. But many get turbocharged by dealers (when new), or by their owners. Banks, ATS, and Hypermax all made kits for them back in the day.
I’ve noticed these old bricknose fords that they take a while to get up to speed, but once they get there they stay there pretty well.
That’s cuz they’re big and heavy like a brick. It’s hard to make them fast but also hard to slow them down lol
Thats how my 86 is it takes a minute to get there but when it gets there it want to keep going ill get up to speed and just keep going passing newer vehicles in my smoking steaming probably overheating pile of ford
Great video, great to see an old horse doing the work of the new trucks. Hello from Bellingham Wa!
I can watch this driving video all day man. It's just a vibe ! 💆🏻♂️
It is absolutely GREAT to see another N/A IDI pulling heavy! Great to watch!
I regularly towed a 6500 lb trailer behind my 92 non turbo between 5000 and 8000 feet. 2nd and 3rd are definitely the work gears up in the mountains, i cant imagine trying to pull 14000 lb up a pass with one of these two valve non turbo mills! They like sea level air and level roads
This is the best video out showing an old idi towing. The camera is sweet.
thx John
I ran across an 89 e350 7.3 yesterday and the guy gave me a great deal. I'll only be using it to other other vehicles. I keep hearing how weak they are and I really want mine to do what I need. It's in great shape. No rust and the interior is mint. Shows 63k miles and has oil change receipts that verify it. This made me more hopeful.
They're not weak, they're geared extremely low and torqued out with little HP. Work engine 100%
If you want to sell the diesel van I am considering one for work. I have an 87 efi inline 6 econoline right now. 500-800 miles a week and it gets 10-14 with ladder rack and fully loaded. Towing i fear single digits mpg
First, the truck looks great! I imagine in a flatter area, like where I live, the 7.3 idi would be just fine.
I bought a 93 idi f450 haven't towed alot been working on my trailer but soon she will be singing down the road. I got 4.63 gears should handle quite a bit more, but my speeds reduced due to rpm. I like to keep her at 65 at 2500rpm 2600rpm in fifth. I'm also on the flats in Texas the only hills I see are overpasses.
I thought the scenery looked familiar. WA?? This brings back memories of hauling scrap metal after school with my old idi back in the day. This was great.
Yup
Awesome run bud. I have a 02f350 dually. I towed my first load few days ago. Triple axle 40ft camper. Dry weight was 18,500. I was leary at first but see your video and said why not. I wish my truck had a zf6 but it's auto 4r100. I was amazed at how good it towed. Pulled hills fine and my egts never got above 950. I used a quarter tank of fuel on a 3 hr haul up north . So I was very impressed and decided I'm keeping this truck for sure.
Put a 6.0 tranny cooler add intake and upgrade compresaor wheel
Believe it or not, if you read the specs, the autos are rated to tow slightly more then the manuals. Don't ask me why, or how lol
@@tonywilson6053The zfs had a small clutch and could slip easy under high loads
Really 24 thousand pounds?, that is impressive, especially in the hills, that be a challenge even for a modern deisel pickup I'm glad to know they are that capable
Dope as hell. Inspiring!
Awesomeness.
My 1992 7.3idi 5 speed hauled 11 6x5 round bales... All day..
Love the video
Got the same truck, white ,7.3 with a 5 spd , 4.10 rear end , pulled great car hauler , with about 5,000 lbs plus trailer , needs an injection pump and 2 tires now .I plan on fixing it putting back on the road, I want to turbo it though next time
Fan clutches wear out can be a good idea to replace the unit. I got mine off of rock auto and you can choose how aggressive the engagement is or atleast I was able to for my 350. I dont tow a lot but changing the fan clutch made a big difference as it was worn out.
I noticed you mentioned your out of Graham, I am too!
1:45 "Guessing the engine fan came on" You'd know for sure if if did. When my fan on my 'ol 1986 6.9L kicks on, it's LOUD!
What temp does yours kick on?
@@BRIANVANDUYN I'm not exactly sure. The factory temp gauge isn't very accurate. When it has kicked on, it's always been in the summer with a heavy load usually going up a long hill. The gauge will go to over 3/4 on the high side, then the fan engages and then you hear a ROARING noise that's unmistakable. . That sucker is LOUD. My 1984 Chevy 6.2L is the same way.
These trucks used zf5/zf6 trans which have tight tolerances, and needle bearings which require atf, not gear oil. That is the only reason for excessive heat buildup. Some f350+ cab chassis used the t18/19 4 speed until 90-91 no worries on overheating those transmissions....
Those trucks will do that all day long for their entire life
that’s badass🤘
That's a nice truck you got
Rebuilding my 94 after 582k
Saying everything you've said for years, oh no a hill...
"oh down to 3rd"
"45 mph"
"Getting hot"
Oh lotsa smoke now...slowing down more lol.
FINALLY snagged a clean 12v dodge all that is gone, now 65 any hill in Ca. 5th gear ac on. Thanks for reminding me not to tow with mine once done, off road beast only. Too dangerous being "that guy"
I wonder what the egt’s were with that load. Looks like it did a good job!
Oh a turbo would be sweet!!! The truck will tow way more than you’ll ever want behind it. Stopping it is what ya better keep a eye on, make sure you got your electric brakes working on your gooseneck. I’d check in on a HD clutch kit also for her. I love the vid’s buddy.
Yeah a hd clutch will be a must for sure!!!!
BRIAN VANDUYN I have the banks kit on my 6.9 and I love it
use to have a 1997 f350 7.3 powerstroke unloaded that truck would haul azz .. that truck is the only truck ive ever driven that could pass people on the highway to switch lanes easily with a 20ft car hauler loaded with zero turn mowers and scag walk behinds + other miscellaneous tools equipment .. would do 70mph loaded driving into the wind with pedal matted never got hot or complained.
I like the video! Quick FYI, using overdrive will not cause heat build up in a manual transmission. Only in an automatic towing a steep grade or when lockup cannot be achieved. The only concern for shifting will be engine power band and exhaust temps.
Glad you said that. I heard him say that and was wondering
You are correct on that, however towing heavy on over drive still isn’t the best idea because those gears in the transmission are the smallest and there for the easiest to break. Also as the engine starts lugging and sending surges through the gear sets it’s easy to break the gear teeth. This is a fact of all manual transmission regardless of manufacture.
Why would exhaust temps be an issue on a NA engine? I thought only turbo charged engines had that problem because of drive pressure.
Hello Jake, you will notice that I very specifically mentioned the engine power band when speaking of shift points. Ideally, one should never shock load the drive train or be lugging their engine. I do not doubt that you have seen broken teeth and I am not a dedicated tranny mechanic but I have had numerous gear boxes apart both on my own and in trade school: OD certainly has the smallest main shaft gear but its counter shaft gear is the largest. First gear has the smallest counter shaft gear and the largest main shaft gear, so I do not understand what you mean when you say OD has the smallest gears. Perhaps you can share your thoughts and I can learn as well.
MarkT, even a naturally aspirated engine can generate enough heat to melt a hole in your piston if you dump enough fuel into it. The owners manuals are very clear on that. If I could post pics here I could show you the metal fatigue on the piston crowns of my 6.9 IDI near where the flame front exits the precup. Combustion chamber temps are what matters, which are directly proportional to exhaust temps. It's just that we can easily measure the last but not the first. I do not recognize the term "drive pressure".
I’m going to end this discussion, don’t tow in OD, it puts torsional stress on the countershaft in the vertical direction, thus separating the countershaft from the main. Eventually it willl either wipe the bearings out or cause other issues
Not actually towing that much that's total weight truck and all. Still a serious load for the old Idi.
I feel it. My 90 f350 crew cab aint fast by any means but it’ll pull your house off it’s foundation and drag it down the road no problem.
So mint idc what people say about ford idi they were doing the same things as Cummins without a turbo
No turbo? I love my 04 triton V10 f350, I've puled a 18klb camper to Colorado from Tyler, Tx without a hitch. Truck was pulling up slopes nice and easy but I recently had to replace a bunch of sensors and Ive been making my own diesel because I can. I'm looking at trading the pig for a 87' idi turbo with a 2spd trans. It's a handsome truck but I need it to tow what the pig can if not more. I don't know what power it's making with the turbo. But watching your video gives me some hope on the trade.
Those sub titles are hilarious!
I towed a 9k tracked skidsteer and came in a hair over 20,000 with my n/a 7.3 idi. Has 3:55 gears and a 5 speed so it didn't really love the hills but once I swap some 4:10s in and make a lighter bed should tow just as good as yours, I also just have a pintle trailer. Pump is turned up 3 flats on mine
It towed fine but no speed or power for passing
@@BRIANVANDUYN Hi thanks for the video. What gears are you runnin?
That's the thing with idi's. They may not be quick but they will pull all day long. I've got a 94 idit swapped into an 85 f250 dually with a c6 sadly. It's my third idi. I love em. Kinda miss my cummins buuut I'm anxious to see what she does when I start tuning her up.
they don't win races but they will pull down a building!
@@BRIANVANDUYN update. Injectors, injection pump. Studs, and built trans incoming. Possibly a bigger turbo and exhaust. She gon show them.
@@danielanderson2030 do a video
@@sydhurdle1154 thinking about it. Just got a new tig welder. Have an idea I've been meaning try. Just gotta finish some math.
My old IDI FSuperduty trucks with 5.13 gears grossing 18,000lbs I was climbing highway grades at 30-40km/h (19-25 mph) in 2nd gear. Old IDI trucks don’t have top end power my FSuperduty trucks topped out at 80km/h (50mph) loaded or empty in 5th gear.
Graveltrucking yeah you’re problem isn’t/wasn’t the trucks power or ability to go fast it was the gearing 4.10s are better but still don’t like speed either take the same truck and put lower gears in them and they’ll go a lot faster than my truck or your truck with the big ass 5.13s. If you threw some smaller gears in there itd be able to go faster and get a lot better mileage
Yeah, like Operator Benji said, your issue is your gearing. My 84 F250 has an aftermarket 3.84 specifically put in it so it would actually be happy going at highway speeds. These trucks were made for torque, which means everything is geared as low as possible (numerically high)
I have the 91 7.3 idi dually. it says the max is only 12500 for towing but im wondering if itd be able to do a lot more. i rarely tow any weight at all though
The bricknose is the best truck ever made and the hill thing could have something to do with her not being a dually
Strong work. I tow my excavator with a 2000 PS F-350. Looking at your info we’re relatively close to each other. Maybe we will cross paths one of these days
Put a turbo and a water intercooler on it dont let boost hit over 12psi unless you have head studs. I have studs and intercooler with a 90cc pump and it pulls anything i have. My truck is a 85 with factory turbo with a 3inch down pipe and 3.5 inch exhaust. Max boost is 22 psi
Got a 1993 idi. How much do you think this will run me on?
Love to see your setup
What are the towing specs on an 89 7.3 single cab? I would think its nowhere near 25k lbs gross? not poking at you, I'm trying to understand how you can be legal at that weight - thanks
Is the engine stock? Or have you done some mods to it? I have a 93 350 idi dually, I want to do some mods to give it a little more power. I’m in the mountains of Arizona where elevations are 5,000 to 8,000, going up hills I get really slow, even only towing a travel trailer that weighs about 5,000lbs
It's got the pump turned up a smige and new injectors and ip but nothing out of the ordinary
The old guys that own these trucks will say "it may be slow but itll do it". My dad would tow 15k of lumber plus a service body up crazy steep dirt roads, just real real slow.
Yea if your looking to be fast you gotta get a newer diesel if you want something that’ll run forever and pull more than you need to just a bit slower than everyone else these old gals are the way to go
Hey what audio and stereo do you have in their
Hey man great vid and "tow-tally" what a truck to haul👍
Is your truck all stock?
Yup except lift and over size tires
Turbo bro....
You know you need it.
Great truck mate 👍 👌 with a manual transmission 👏👌👍 I have a excursión 7.3 but I would like to change for a manual transmission 🤔 I don't like vehicles with a automatic transmission 👎👎🤪 you keep your truck running mate cheers from Norway
Thanks 👍
ooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck yeah bud
holy fish eye view batman
What's that mounted to the ceiling above the rear view mirror?
The camera
I’m trying to figure out the camera thing what it’s doing
Right, i'm very curious what it's doing
One moment we’re in the corner next moment were circling the whole truck psych he’s flying a drone
Go pro 360 camera
I think it's a 360 degree camera and he can adjust the view point during editing
What kind of fuel millage do you get with a load and with out a load? Also, who is running your camera? I love your video. Pretty awesome.
About 11 with that load and about 13 without 😭😭😭
@@BRIANVANDUYN You might get better fuel mileage if you open up the intake a little by adding a spacer and a cold air intake, then your engine can really breath like it's suppose to. You will notice a big difference in power and in fuel mileage.
I have a 360 camera that films on both sides then I choose the camera frame after production on my laptop thx for watching! And sharing!
I’ve heard that resting your hand on the shifter wears out your synchros. Is that true?
If it does it would probably take a long time to do so
Makes me feel ok about pulling a track skid steer and a 35 mini on a tri axle trailer with my powerstroke lol
Hahaha yeah if an idi can tow a 50 then your ps can definently pull a 35 and a skid steer , don't know if id try both at the same time though hahahah
@@BRIANVANDUYN I did it was fine lol
@@BlakeMerckleTrucking what was the gcvw?
@@BlakeMerckleTrucking i need a ps hahaha those things got power to work!
I have no idea what the gvrw was I never passed a set of scales lol my ps isnt stock it never really struggled it did get on the warm side for a minute when pulling up a long grade at 70 lol
i have a 91 f250 has banks sidewinder and i love it
Have you ever driven a non turbo and how does it compare if you have?
@@BRIANVANDUYN yea my dad has a 90 f250 and honestly when you get over 6lbs of boost youll feel it I never towed with my dad's though but mine it does just fine
How much weight you towing?
@@BRIANVANDUYN not to much as just mainly haul garden tractors around this time of year on a 16ft equipment trailer
@@BRIANVANDUYN if your towing that much I recommend doing head studs these old idis really shouldn't be pushed over 10lbs of boost without the fear of blowing head gaskets
Not bad for 190hp
Would you suggest manual swapping from an automatic in one of these
Not really
Whats the MPG when hauling a big load with these IDI 7.3s
I think I was getting around 12
What cameras that? It’s like 360 but can you “aim” it editing?
@SolarBurrito yeah its a 360 camera and i can record in normal wide angle or i can record in 360 and in after production i have to manually select the point of view
But there are stitch lines sometimes where both lenses meet up especially if the object being filmed is close to the camera
Gopro max
For reasons I don't understand, they used a real tall reverse gear.
Then there's a short and wide ratio 5sp.
Unlock the front tires then just put it in 4 lo and you will go a lot slower in reverse
What kind of millage does it get and how does towing effect it?
12-15 hwy 10 towing
@@BRIANVANDUYN ok. That’s pretty decent. Was just curious if the N/A got better or worse mileage. I run a 12v Cummins but have a lot of respect for OBS fords. In all honesty I think the trucks are a little better put together especially interior but I liked the simplicity of the 12v over the PS and the dodge had straight axle Dana 60 in the front. For some reason I have a soft spot for n/a diesels and if it was in the cards I’d own one with the old up to 85 interior. That’s a really cool truck you got there.
Nice truck pull. Would you tell me what paint and interior code is on your door, please? Its for my rebuild. Thank you.
If I still had it I would
What kind of bucket seats do you have in that truck
Not sure they were reupholstered
I just bought a 93 7.3L IDI non turbo. Plan on hauling a 39 foot 5th wheel camper that weighs 13500 dry. Any recommendations on what upgrades I should add to this truck?
Throw an egt guage in and turn the pump up a little bit
I've got a 1990 7.3 idi 5 speed crewcab dually stock and I've had 13000lbs and it done fine once I got started . No mods or adjustments made to IP or motor . However I would recommend getting some gauges installed so you can monitor your truck better
I had an f350 dually with an after market turbo, 50k miles on it, it was reliable but just that. Hill's are that dump trucks worst enemy. Sold it and bought 3500 6.7 Cummins w 6spd manual and never looked back
Hate to tell you but the nisqualy hill is on the south bound side, you were pulling the fort Lewis hill/scale house hill, it's much smaller
How many miles on this truck?
Od says 73k im guessing 173k or 273k idk
@@BRIANVANDUYN very well kept up with, nice rig. I just picked up a 93 idi n/a 5spd with 94k miles. I'm going to put it to work in the next few weeks
Hope yours is as solid as mine!
Why are the wipers on? Lol
are you in shelton lol, i just noticed steamboat
Im out of graham ,but relocating to shelton soon.
That is over 2 times the ratted towing capacity 😂😂 very impressive
Anyone notice the CLOUDS of coal from behind when he flipped the camera around! GET ER DONE
She was definitely rolling coal
Your dual mass flywheel is completely shot that's why it chatters so bad on take off. If you do not fix this immediately your bellhousing on your transmission will be cracked like a spider web if it isn't already and being a zf 5 speed that means a whole new transmission. I would replace clutch and flywheel with a 1 piece flywheel, the dual mass setup is a P.O.S. the springs go right away. I also hope you have a pyro cause I can tell your pumps turned up probably around 1.5 flats you don't want to touch 1200 F for very long. Many idi's have died because of the lack of a 100 dollar gauge. Treat the old girl with some TLC and she will always get you home.
Bad transmission mounts and motor mounts can also cause chatter. That was the problem on mine. Mine only did it in reverse though.
You said Overdrive heats up the transmission, I did not know that.
lol it wont if you have a manual.
Any 2 year updates on this old war horse
She was running strong when I sold her
What can you do so you don't have to keep checking the transmission temperature??
Armo i was checking engine temp, you should always check your temps when hauling heavy!
Your really only towing 16kish. But that's even surprising. My grandpa gave me his 90 turbo 7.3 gonna see how it likes towing my 18k 5th wheel
🤘
Wouldn't feel comfortable hauling that much weight with my 12 valve its a 3/4 ton though too not a 1 ton. I'm in Pennsylvania we have to steep of grades to haul that much weight unless you have at the minimum 800-850 lb ft of torque. The mountains can be pretty tough over here most I'd feel good about is 15k not including the weight of the truck. So that'd be about 23k lbs altogether my 1st gen extended cab weighs about 7,890.
My friend use to have a idi I can't imagine how damn slow that truck is grossing 24k his truck was ungodly slow empty lol. Ive got a 14 6.7 Cummins deleted and regeard with 4.56 gears and I've grossed right @ 25k on a cat scale . I definitely knew it was back there lol
Very slow getting up to speed but it kept it there if it was level really easy. Until you pull a hill
The 7.3 diesel is not for yuppies
My idi pulls that mud bay hill pretty well up to about 15000 pounds I have a c6 auto it doe a little worse
My E4OD would explode 😂
What was ur gear ratio
410
@@BRIANVANDUYN Hey Brotha..Would some 4.56 have helped out? Will be towing 12000 lbs consistantly so looking to regear
Not towing 25k, 25k with 7-8lb k included. Towing 18k more like but still cool. Thank mini looks to be a 10k machine and likely a 5-7k trailer plus whatever is in the bed...
Need more Idi content lol
If I had one I would
@@BRIANVANDUYN black mamba gone ?
Yeah I sold it almost a year ago now I have a 2019 Toyota Tacoma Trd pro all black
@@BRIANVANDUYN well ain’t gonna lie I’ve been off UA-cam for bit gotta catch up hey I like them they nice
Turbo?
Nope
Were you monitoring engine temp or EGTs?
Engine temp
Never heard of a manual trans overheating
Some manuals have trans coolers as well
@@Turbotalkin true but manuals definitely don't make a whole lot of heat compared to an auto.
@@jessewarren2689 definitely agree👍
You sell this truck ???
Yup
Turbo or non turbo?
Non turbo
BRIAN VANDUYN I’ve been looking at the idi’s and haven’t been able should I grab one that’s turbo or non-turbo
@@wavytay8007 good luck finding 1 that has a turbo, if i could do it again id go with a ps
BRIAN VANDUYN is that because your having issues or just the power difference? I just went to go look at 83 6.9 single cab 4 speed non-turbo today. Any info would be very helpful
BRIAN VANDUYN is that because your having issues or just the power difference? I just went to go look at 83 6.9 single cab 4 speed non-turbo today. Any info would be very helpful
Still thinking about 6.9 swapping my 300i6 😏
6.9 is a good motor but that 300 i6 is just as good bud. Got one with over 500k and its still the loud beast of the woods
@@stevestoner3327 yeah ive since picked up a cclb 7.3 psd still love the 300 in my half ton!
Dude I know my 300 is in a 2 door short bed half ton. Its clapped out but I still a beast
What mods have you done to it
Check out the introduction video in the playlist , custom arm rest turned up the ip a smig and a few other things
On flat ground you need to shift it to 5th it will be easier on the motor an keep it cooler then on down hills go to 5th like you said
I actually pull heavy with idi ford pickups and a international S series and I thought your truck did well for pulling a 25k trailer with a N/A idi ,but when you pulled up to the scales it shows your not pulling 25k your pulling around 17,500lbs. Don't include the weight of your pickup and say that's what your pulling to make your load sound heavy your gross overall weight truck and trailer is 25k.
we had a 8600lb forklift on a trailer, 1991 7.3l turbo .05 over pistons stage 1.5 injectors. going up some 10+% grades (long hills, bout this whole video worth of climbing) and that thing would not pull it, first gear 30km/h and the water overheated halfway up.
@@Donkusdelux There must of been something not dialed in right. There is no such thing as stage 1.5 injectors. There is moose injectors,dps, and r and d. All the injectors have is different tips so they empty faster. Turbo idi's pull very good when enough fuel is supplied and running around 12psi boost in a healthy motor. My 3 ton s1654 is a non turbo 7.3 and it pulls better than the turbo one you mentioned.
@@wildrosegarage4208 you should look into stage 1.5 some more, they make them, and thats what I bought when I shaved the heads, upgraded the valves and put the turbo on it
My truck is 3.55 gears, i think that is why it doesnt pull well. it will do 180km/h no load 10psi. 4" exhaust, enough fuel to make her dump black when you work it.
And i am going up long hills, you climb 4000feet in 20min, the 1999 f550 superduty we have climbs those moutians easy. but the idi just fights it until it overheats, pulling 12k lbs on the flats it runs cool, right at the bottom of "normal" on the dash.
Im going to get another 7.3 f350 superduty that last pull we had oil dumping out the rear main seal.
@@Donkusdelux let me no who makes stage 1.5 injectors so i know for next time i need some. The best factory injectors is a BB code. Stage 1s have the tips cut off to alow them to dump quicker they dont realy give you much more fuel if any they are just less restrictive, fueling is all in the pump and a factory pump is around 80cc . As for stage 1.5 this is the first i have heard of it and how they could allow more fuel with out a db2 injection pump that can give more fuel is beyond me. I have been playing with idi's for a very long time.
@@wildrosegarage4208 id have to pull one out and look at the name but i went to a diesel shop and i chose them, but pretty sure we turned our pump up a bit. we have also been working on idi's for a long time, there is not much we havent done to these,.... going to be moving to the superduty 7.3, little harder to work on but they are a tougher engine, had a friend who run 40psi of boost on a stock motor and he sold the truck at 340k km still ran fine and would roast the tires right off it, our first turbo idi melted the valves from 10 psi
Uh oh, I can see another weight rating war about to happen. I don’t know the exact specs for your truck, but I am certain that you are over. I am pr
etty sure Ford set the max GCVWR gross combined weight rating at less than 18,000 lbs for that truck. I think the GVWR was around 8,800 for just the truck. Your door tag will show the GVWR. I am sure more will chime in on this one. Huge topic on the forums. Have to say though, she was pulling her own!
Not sure if links work on here. www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1408586-1989-f-350-diesel-what-towing-weight-2.html
@@Johnditit yeah what makes me sick is how manufacturers dont tell you what their product can actually do because they are trying to cover their back side. Im sure you are some where on point i havent really looked into it that much honestly i did read that the gas powered f350 was rated for a lot higher probably because they where trying to push the gas motors maybe cheaper to produce , .... idk why. , i think it towed great and the electric brakes on the trailer had plenty of stopping power. Sure it was slower than most 4 wheelers going down the road but she was working ! I just cant justify spending 50+k on a new diesel pickup that the door says i can tow..... when this pickup is doing it for 10k.....
GVWR is 9000, RGAWR is 6084. It would still be overweight on a obs dually 10000 GVWR. Regardless I did enjoy seeing it work! Nice truck.
Yeah, but those weight ratings kinda become useless as the vehicle ages, or if you start modifying it. Like mine has a dually adapter kit on it, and an aftermarket rear dif, and I have a 5 speed trans to throw in it. So the weight rating on the door tag really isn't super accurate.
Yes it can pull it but... can it legally put it by D.O.T specs lol
Hahaha
20 k at 9% w ihc 304 gas 43 mph up it on my bk 6. 9 7.3 are much like sounds of bb 392 ihc
Maby pulling 12 trailer a d load
Looks to be flat road.on a hill you be in trouble