Hi, I'm a muppet performer (I play Dr. Teeth’s dad Gerald Teeth Sr.) and NY Henson shop builder. Marionette puppeteers performed Kermit’s and Piggy’s bikes. The bikes and puppets were rigged to a controller connected to a crane. The wide of all the bikes was done by connecting all the bikes. You can see the connections if you look closely enough. We still do a lot of practical puppetry FX in our films and TV shows. However, since everyone expects there to be CG, it gets looked over as a digital effect. A great example is the show Donkey Hodie. In it, a puppet juggles. There is no VFX. All practical and in camera. I started my professional career as a VFX artist, so I can say that in TV/Film puppetry, the same saying exists. If you didn't see the effect, then we have done our job right.
That second half was so delightful - to think that a 97 year old movie could confuse you guys after 134 episodes of doing this is the wildest compliment to the makers of Metropolis and their craft! :D
Then they didn't even get to the electric arc effect or the rings around the robot transformation. This 3 hour movie is wild for its time(And had cost more than the whole lotr trilogy combined in today's money) . I believe it is shot at 16 or 24 FPS or so. But the restoration team made is play at 30?, so it looks weird to watch now. Strangely sped up. I have it in my collection, I should watch it again.
I dont know how to describe this, but it feels like every single person in your office fits in perfectly. It doesnt matter who is on screen, everytime they go off, I'll be like "Dang I wish this person was on here more".. Sam and Niko, I hope you are very proud of the team you've put together over these years!
I agree, but remember they are playing characters on screen. Themselves, but outsized. The Bon Appetit channel was like until one day the story broke that it was a terrible place to work. (Enough people have moved on from Corridor, however, that if there were issues we'd probably have heard about it by now.)
Looked up the ferrari crash, it actually mostly happened that crazily. Tire blew, lost control, flew into a telephone pole, jumped a brook, hit spectators, bounced back on the road, hit more spectators slidding and spinning over the road ending up in a brook on the other side of the road, driver was found split in half. (1957 Mille Miglia)
They do it all the time and it's very fascinating to see how they did vfx stuff all those years ago. Unfortunately there's only so much old movies with mind blowing vfx.
You guys should make a video where you do "VFX" shots, without CGI. The 45 degree mirror, forced perspective, etcc etcc. Not just to see it in action, but to see what goes into it and how easy, or difficult, it actually is. Edit: my brain suffered a minor case of sudden flatulence and i wrote VFX instead of CGI. It has now been corrected.
A superb idea! Like when Coppola did his version of Dracula in 1992 - he only used techniques that would have been available when the original movie came out (in the 30s).
I love how the muppet scenes got progressively more ambiguous like they WANTED VFX artists to react to it. The first shot, their lower half was still out of frame, and each shot thereafter got more and more impossible 😂
I love the absolute awe they had analyzing 'Metropolis' and trying to figure out how they did those shots in 1927. I have to say I'm even more impressed with the creative methods used in that film. Huge respect to the pioneering effects artists for the amount of work they did.
I'm so happy you reacted to Metropolis! That's one of my favorite silent films and I always wondered how they did everything in that film being nearly a hundred years old. It blows my mind the techniques they used back then to create scenes and get the shots they wanted. I'd love to see you guys react to Nosferatu next; that's my absolute favorite silent film
You might have mentioned that the reflective glass technique was known as the Schüftan process. One of of the earliest, in-camera compositing techniques in Cinema history. It actually had its roots in the world of stage magic (as did many other early effects). Georges Méliès, known as the Cinemagician, started out as a stage magician and brought a lot of his illusions to his films. Metropolis still stands as one of the most astounding works of cinema ever.
Thank you for mentioning the Schüftan process. While watching the video I was thinking that they should've at least acknowledged the process name of the, for its time, incredibly Innovative technique. You would think the guys, especially Niko who is very thorough and knowledgeable, at the Crew would have done some extra credit research and mentioned it.
"A Trip to the Moon" by Georges Méliès from 1902 is widely considered the official real first sci-fi movie. I don't really understand why they claimed it's Metropolis. If the movies were close together in age, I would not make much difference, but Trip to the Moon is 25 years older!
@@zlobzor They begin the segment with implying "we saw modern sci-fi, now let's go back to the first " and secondly, costumes, animation, simple explosions & smoke and moving backgrounds was the VFX of that time.
I think Andor, with its phenomenal effects across all 12 episodes, would make great content for a VFX artists react video - especially as it makes for great comparison with the lacklustre and cheap-looking VFX from the other Star Wars TV shows.
Remember how people talked about the Star Wars prequels like they were the worst movies ever made, when really, come on, they weren't THAT bad? The Clone Wars actually IS that bad. - Film critic, Eric D. Snider[49] Entertainment Weekly listed Star Wars: The Clone Wars as one of the five worst films of 2008[39] with critic Owen Gleiberman saying, It's hard to tell the droids from the Jedi drones in this robotic animated dud, in which the George Lucas Empire Strikes Back-at the audience. What wears you out is Lucas' immersion in a Star Wars cosmology that has grown so obsessive-compulsively cluttered yet trivial that it's no longer escapism; Because this movie has bad lightsaber duels and the lack of the original cast, it's something you want to escape from.[39]
Star Wars Clone Wars film The only Star Wars Razzie On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 19% based on 172 reviews, with an average rating of 4.2/10. The site's critical consensus reads: "Mechanical animation and a less-than stellar script make The Clone Wars a pale shadow of George Lucas' once great franchise."[35] This constituted the lowest Rotten Tomatoes rating of any Star Wars film; all nine theatrical films ranged from 51% to 95% and the made-for-television Ewok films and the Star Wars Holiday Special garnered higher ratings, although their averages encompassed far fewer reviews.[36]
In regards to the bicycle scenes from The Great Muppet Caper, whenever it’s a wide shot of the characters, they’re being pulled with rods by people riding big tricycles off camera, one of them was Jim Henson’s son Brian.
I remember the first time I watched Metropolis, I was properly blown away by the effects, especially when I looked up the date it came out, insanely good work.
THE PAGEMASTER! THATS THE NAME! I've been looking for this movie for YEARS but I had nothing to go on except foggy memories I though I had made up after a while. You guys do incredible work, and from your videos I have always walked away with more knowledge and new appreciation for the art. Thank you all for what you do. You're inspiring not just me to learn more but millions of others I'm sure. I hope you all at CC have a great day, as well as to anyone who is reading this. Everyone, keep pushing forward and doing the best you can, you got this!
SAME the scene in this clip just triggered 25 year old memories I haven't thought about since I saw this movie as a kid. If you'd told me the name with no context I would've sworn up and down I'd never seen it before
@19:33 I absolutely love when Wren snaps into serious mode and explains something super fundamental that all creators should know. It always punches me in the gut (in a good way).
Thanks for reviewing Metropolis!! It is a marvel of a movie with a tie back to the loss of history. The movie was longer than what we now have. The destruction of art leading up to and through WW2 lost lots of hard work and beauty 😢
I think this has been my favourite episode so far, laughed super hard, blown away by the reveals behind these effects. I know we're not sitting on the couch with you guys but it feels like we are. Thank you all for sharing your passion and knowledge with us!
Great episode! I'm SO GLAD you guys covered a few scenes from Metropolis. I love that movie. And now I'm even more impressed by it because I know how they did some of those effects and it's just mind blowing. Thank you!
Dude I’ve been waiting for yall to look at metropolis since I watched it for a film class a few years ago. So glad yall got to break down some of the crazy effects in it
Guys the shot of him running on the dune and the dune collapsing under him was real! There construsted a real sand dune with semi trucks under it and drove out on cue to create the collapse. And they had a stunt double run on top and fall in the sand. Denis V broke it down in a video.
also, even aside from their lack of reaction, it all looks kind of.... silly? the rag-dolling, the car bouncing; it looks like a live action cartoon more than what should be a horrifying event.
Think about how fast it's happening though. They wouldn't have time to react. The car was going 150 mph when it lost control. I actually think that aspect is fairly realistic.
This episode was a blast! 1. Need waaayy more Peter on this show 2. Once the couch dies maybe get a sectional and just have 5+ people each episode 👀 3. Love Jake, but Jordan’s ad spots are 🤌 4. I never realize how loud UA-camr voice is until I heard your voices echoining back into the mics and it had me chuckling. Love you guys, glad this show is still around after getting me through college and beyond!
That's physically accurate in theory. The energy needed to move the car is way more than that needed to move a human body, so it's entirely possible for enough energy to be transferred to make the body move faster than the car. Like when a bowling ball hits the pins.
@@TheAshenvictor It is mostly the spin that makes that happen. The surface of the bowling ball has a speed on top of the speed of the ball itself, and the pins are accelerated to that combined speed. The first spectator who is thrown up by the car looks wrong because the car is spinning the wrong way for him to shoot upwards.
@@jaapsch2 Cool, I didn't think of that. I also didn't rewatch the clip or consider the angle, I'm just saying a big thing moving can hit and accelerate a smaller thing to a higher speed.
Thank you so much for looking into The Pagemaster. I requested it a few Reacts ago to know how that scene was done and I'm happy to see some love aimed at one of my favorite childhood movies. Plus it just so happens to be the 30th anniversary of it. You guys are the best!
Metropolis has been one of my favorite films since I saw it as a kid 15 years ago. Genuinely a powerful film in message and the contributions it made to film, VFX, and the sci-fi genre can NOT be understated. Love that you guys finally talked about it!
Have you ever thought of how they operated Kermit in the swamp in the first muppet movie and the muppets in the pond in great muppet caper…I wish there were a behind the scenes for those shots.
Dune '84 effects were great! I think they did an awesome job on filming some hard to imagine scenes with the limited tech available to them at the time. Plus the soundtrack made even the "silly" looking stuff feel epic. The movie definitely has a charm that still holds up well in my opinion.
Just found an awesome clip from an old Tom and Jerry movie where they composed the mouse into a full dance sequence matching Gene Kelly's dance moves. What I found super weird is they composed the mouse into the frame and even had the 2d animated character's reflection show up on the glossy floor. Would love to see you break down this effect and how they did it so early in VFX and cinema history. Love the videos!
Since you looked at Fritz Lang's Metropolis, I'd also recommend checking out the rocket launch sequence in his Frau Im Mond/Woman in the Moon. Made in 1929 and features a pretty well researched idea of what a manned mission to the moon would actually look like (until they get there and can breathe the air and use dowsing rods to find water). 1929 was even before the earliest stages of cruise missiles (which the Soviets started experimenting with in 1932 and the Germans in 1943), yet they nail a lot of smaller details.
2:24 So no one is questioning the real world physics of a wooden telephone pole deflecting an entire explosive motion car instead of pole breaking and car continues the trajectory
Wooden poles are trees. And trees are pretty dang hard to break.... but that car did go damm fast. I dont know. Acordong to a poster above the car did bounce of a pole
I mean it has the tension of the wires as well, you can definitely see it getting dislodged. It wasn't a head on impact with it so it's very probable that it would have ricocheted like that, someone mentioned higher up in the comments that the scene was based on a real crash.
I can certainly believe it bounced off the pole. What I can't believe is that it was that high up on the pole or that it would bounce that far off of it.
I would have agreed to the point of poles being as trees, but the strength of the pole would be highest at the base as it has earth for stability and the poles become weaker in strength at the tip where wires are. The wires that are attached are just attached with bolts and not soldered or wrapped around the pole for grip and provide elasticity The car - Ferrari 335 s is about 880 kg curb weight. Not being a scientist here but I definitely believe the car weight + the added momentum with explosion could have easily overcome the structural integrity of that point of crash on pole breaking it down. I mean I am also speculating this based on the movie shot(which seems to be exaggerated from what I read in other media) May be the Corridor Crew guys can work out the mathematics and physics using their simulator 🤩
I love it when you guys look at old skool effects. The creativity in these older movies amazes me and the effects for Metropolis! Wow! Someone needs to make a documentary on how the effects were done on that film
@@PorcineHero93what I find funny, and why quite a few people are commenting about it, is that they misspelled not once, not twice... but three times.😅
Absolutely brilliant. Old techniques get me every time. It's actually insane how much we rely on CG nowadays, to the point where I can't even imagine how they would do it without CG!
When you talk about "kineticism" in film-making I remember being really impressed but the opening getaway car chase in the first "The Transporter" movie. Not a great film otherwise, but when compared to other films of its era - such as the similarly car-focused "Ronin" that first sequence was visceral. It conveyed the feeling of the G-forces, the skidding, struggling to control the car etc. It was similar to the way that seing the Omaha beach scene in "Saving Private Ryan" on the big screen made many of us hunch down in our seats trying not to get hit by a stray bullet. Good VFX & good film-making go hand in hand. Thanks also for looking at Metropolis and showing people just how amazing that work was.
I just watched The Great Muppet Caper the other day! It's one of my faves. That bicycle scene is so great. I didn't realize how much work went into Metropolis, I need to watch it.
Those Metropolis shots are actually insane. It's so cool to see how the principles of hand-drawn animation itself was being used for the digital effects of computers nowadays.
In the distant shots of the Muppets it was actually a young Brian Henson and his friend towing the puppets. THANK YOU FOR FINALLY SHOWING PAGEMASTER!!!!!
Hey, making fun of how Paul mounts the Sandworm is straight from the book. The paddle opens the soft insides of the worm and it turns to get it far from the irritating sand.
Love that you covered Page Master! One of my absolute favorite movies growing up! Would love to hear more about these 2d/real life movies such as page master, Roger rabbit, cool world.
3:23 not a single one of the people tried to run away from the flying Ferrari. That's what completely ruined the shot for me. They looked like video game npc's.
This episode was fantastic! I have suggested both Metropolis and Pagemaster in a few posts from this channel, so I was happy to see them finally acknowledged here; regardless of if my comments were ever seen, haha.
already mentioned this. not those films, but specifically visual nasties with horror legends explaining the craft/method behind the effects. 1 off episode, or series, but i expect the episode to garner attention and then a year or so before a series is released/made. because.... some visuals aren't youtube compliant.... these days.
Have they done John carpenter's The Thing? I know there was a really comprehensive making of on the Dvd, plus I'm not sure if there is that much mystery in how it was done (like, it's models covered in goo)
Week 6 of asking the guys to look at the original 1999 Walking with Dinosaurs TV series from the BBC. Not only does it have a great blend of practical and cg elements, it was also the very first attempt to show dinosaurs as living animals in a documentary rather than as movie monsters. Plus if you can catch them, there are definitely a few shots where the dinosaur models clip through themselves. 😂 Definitely worth a look!
Yes! Prehistoric Park and the Walking With series all have super cool CGI work for all the animals. Sea Monsters A Prehistoric Adventure has it too, with an awesome timelapse at the end showing the geological changes of millions of years
I frickin loved the Pagemaster as a kid. Loved it so much my parents bought it for me on VHS, if you haven’t seen it then it’s definitely worth a watch
16:56 I’d ask Adam Savage. But if I remember it’s pretty simple. There’s two puppets, the sitting one, and the free one. The sitting one has the feet just attach to the peddles, the steering and balance is operated up top, with the puppeteer operating the puppet. The hands are either attached or not depending on the shot. The bikes can just work as they get pulled around. The free puppet is used for the closeups with some fake handles. Now the bit where both the bikes are interacting is.. maybe a rig up top that rotates in a way they can repeat it. But at the same time I’m not sure. A few years prior to that movie there were a few people showing off self balancing bikes robots that just plugged onto the bike seats and put pull the handle bars and peddle and balance. I’m wondering if they were just those. Because they are going rather slow and jerky. But who knows riggers for puppet mechanism are on another level sometimes
1:41 in all honesty, the effects of this one were well done, but the physics were well off. First, The stone that was hit would barely create any airtime on its own, if any at all, and it certainly wouldn’t have flung the car to the other side of the road, nor that high. Second, When the car hit the pole, it will have changed direction slightly, but more than anything, the pole would have just snapped or been ripped out of the ground. That car would have hit the pole with a tremendous amount of force, even if the car wasn’t particularly heavy, it still had a lot of speed.
I think what made Metropolis so groundbreaking is you have a generation of people who grew up only with stage production (live performance plays) and now with this new format called cinema, you can record the production and manipulate what the audience sees through the camera lens. You don't have to put everything on a single stage, live, and the camera not only allowed you to manipulating what the audience (the camera) catches but also how much preparation you can make between each scene.
if you love scifi Metropolis is a must watch movie my personal favourite cut of the movie is the Giorgio Moroder 1980's release, they added back in some of the original colour tinting and gave it a good soundtrack
Had the chance to see Metropolis at a local theater with live music early this year, impressive how it inspired so many other movies and how the message/theme of it is still relevant today. Nice to see how some of the effects were made.
The Ferrari vfx shot, looks like the vfx artist accidentally raised it up during development somehow and the rest of the development team didn't see it as a mistake and worked around it
I love Wrens reactions! Would be great if somebody made a compilation video of every time Wren was confused and bewildered saying "WHAT?" "Or wait..... what?!"😅
I love what the original Dune achieved with its effects- apparently the dust used for the sand in the sand worm scene had to be so fine to look right slowed down in order to simulate the scale that it was extremely unhealthy to use and is no longer allowed to be utilized in special effects because of it. Old school techniques were so wild And Metropolis- approaching a century old and still impressive to me. The fact they made something like that back then is unreal
Love the love for Metropolis. Surprised you didn't look at the scene where the robot comes to life - that effect of the vertical rings has always baffled me. Die Nibelungen is great, too!
is that me or the crashing scene of the Ferrari in the public doesn't look good at all? it is missing realism, the public have a reaction time of more than 3 sec
Yup. Watched this in the theatre, the moment the car hits the bump in the road, the audio cut out, and you could hear the audience gasp but then kind of mutter and chuckle a bit because of how weird and awkward and silly it looked, also right after this was a shot of just excessive CGI gore and mutilated bodies that felt insanely out of place. Ferrari is an extremely strange film, very melodramatic, very cheap-looking, horrible audio
Mann wanted the bulk of the crash to occur in one unbroken shot so that viewers could really see the destruction. He and his team looked at BBC footage of a famous 1955 disaster at Le Mans when a car flew into the crowd and killed 83 people. “You see this car coming, seemingly benign, until you realize what’s happening-that it’s mowing down these people,” Mann says. “It’s a hot, flaming metallic scythe cutting through human bodies. And that very much influenced how I shot them.”
The Pagemaster is such a blast from the past. I forgot about that movie but seeing it now made me remember I must have watched it at least a dozen times as a kid.
What's crazy about Metropolis is that prior to 2008 it was thought that the film's original cut was lost until they found a damaged copy in a museum in Argentina of all places.
i will NEVER get tired of intellectually inclined people talking about THE dune money shot... and i will never get tired of watching it. fucking unbelievable cinematography to drool over..... theeeeeen theres the 80s version 💀
Denis Villeneuve and Roger Deakins is a fucking match made in heaven, they have produced some outstanding frames together. I knew they had done a few but I didn't realise Prisoners was one, holy shit no wonder it's so good.
I love the clip of the Pagemaster. This era of film where they are testing the limits of CG with these small budget projects are just so much fun. Things like flight of the navigator, the last Starfighter, Warriors of Virtue. So nostalgic.
The most egregious part of the Ferrari clip is the inexplicable take-off. There is nothing that would launch that car 30 feet into the air. I could handle 10 feet or so, and the subsequent shot with the crowd would still be doable.
@@GuineaPigEveryday Yes - in Guidizzolo. I don't doubt a car of that kind could achieve some height, but there's nothing to suggest it did so, and certainly nothing in that recreation to cause it. The physics depicted are laughable. In reality, the car bounced off an embankment and hit a telephone pole at ground level, before colliding with spectators and coming to rest in a ditch. I'm all for dramatic license, but that just looked silly.
Hi, I'm a muppet performer (I play Dr. Teeth’s dad Gerald Teeth Sr.) and NY Henson shop builder. Marionette puppeteers performed Kermit’s and Piggy’s bikes. The bikes and puppets were rigged to a controller connected to a crane. The wide of all the bikes was done by connecting all the bikes. You can see the connections if you look closely enough. We still do a lot of practical puppetry FX in our films and TV shows. However, since everyone expects there to be CG, it gets looked over as a digital effect.
A great example is the show Donkey Hodie. In it, a puppet juggles. There is no VFX. All practical and in camera. I started my professional career as a VFX artist, so I can say that in TV/Film puppetry, the same saying exists. If you didn't see the effect, then we have done our job right.
Amazing! Thanks for sharing your insight.
That's so cool, thank you for sharing.
@@Hegder Of course! Happy to! :D
@@XSAGA87 You're welcome! :D
You are living the dream! I grew up watching Jim and doing what you are doing is something I always wanted to do. Thanks for sharing this insight.
That second half was so delightful - to think that a 97 year old movie could confuse you guys after 134 episodes of doing this is the wildest compliment to the makers of Metropolis and their craft! :D
Too bad they're likely all too dead to receive it 😕😭
@@SarcasticPlotRecaps What do you mean 'likely'? It's a fucking guarantee they're all dead 🤣
They are probably still grinning from ear to ear in heaven though. :D
Then they didn't even get to the electric arc effect or the rings around the robot transformation. This 3 hour movie is wild for its time(And had cost more than the whole lotr trilogy combined in today's money) . I believe it is shot at 16 or 24 FPS or so. But the restoration team made is play at 30?, so it looks weird to watch now. Strangely sped up.
I have it in my collection, I should watch it again.
I dont know how to describe this, but it feels like every single person in your office fits in perfectly. It doesnt matter who is on screen, everytime they go off, I'll be like "Dang I wish this person was on here more".. Sam and Niko, I hope you are very proud of the team you've put together over these years!
Facts. I miss Clint being a permanent though, his energy and silliness and passion was just all round top tier...
@@onlycasual1 and I'd add the topics bro
@@Big.Joe.Grizzlyclint will forever be the goat
@@Big.Joe.Grizzlythe real miss is Carmichael😞
I agree, but remember they are playing characters on screen. Themselves, but outsized.
The Bon Appetit channel was like until one day the story broke that it was a terrible place to work.
(Enough people have moved on from Corridor, however, that if there were issues we'd probably have heard about it by now.)
The _Metropolis_ segment is so awesome! It's so badass how people were able to come up with that stuff 100 years ago. Brilliant.
Looked up the ferrari crash, it actually mostly happened that crazily. Tire blew, lost control, flew into a telephone pole, jumped a brook, hit spectators, bounced back on the road, hit more spectators slidding and spinning over the road ending up in a brook on the other side of the road, driver was found split in half. (1957 Mille Miglia)
😧
@@perrodetokioand a yikes
Yeeeeesh
At 150 mph
Yeah but in IRL it didnt look like an PS3 cutscene from 2003.
The flying car wreck bit at the end of the ad was the jankiest thing ever. You have truly embraced the jank. Kudos.
It's honorary Bollywood. Bit shocked that it's Michael Mann-approved.
@@SenselessUsername The comment was about the ad, not the Ferrari clip. But I agree, that one was pretty janky, too. I'm shocked, as well.
you mean the ferrari movie?
Really enjoyed the Metropolis part! Hope you'll do more classic movies like that as well!
I want a whole ep on silent movies
The practical ones are the stuff that blow my mind for sure
They do it all the time and it's very fascinating to see how they did vfx stuff all those years ago. Unfortunately there's only so much old movies with mind blowing vfx.
Yes please!
Seconded.
I love how Jordan’s car went into Gmod physics REAL QUICK!!! I’m glad they’re spicing up the ad reads for people who do decide to not skip them.
You guys should make a video where you do "VFX" shots, without CGI. The 45 degree mirror, forced perspective, etcc etcc. Not just to see it in action, but to see what goes into it and how easy, or difficult, it actually is.
Edit: my brain suffered a minor case of sudden flatulence and i wrote VFX instead of CGI. It has now been corrected.
This is a brilliant idea, they should do a few and try to trick each other into where the cgi is
YES PLEASE!!!!
I would watch this, what can corridor crew accomplish without computers
Use any interns to do the Metropolis shot. Make em feel the pain 😅
A superb idea!
Like when Coppola did his version of Dracula in 1992 - he only used techniques that would have been available when the original movie came out (in the 30s).
I love how the muppet scenes got progressively more ambiguous like they WANTED VFX artists to react to it. The first shot, their lower half was still out of frame, and each shot thereafter got more and more impossible 😂
I love how the crowd doesnt flinch one bit when that car flys through them
Yeah, they kept clapping.
When it comes at you at 150 mph there's not a whole lot of time to react
You can see them start to duck as the car comes hurtling toward them, but yeah Jude is right that would have happened in a split second.
At that speed in that split second, you'd be dead before your mind could even process what is happening.
They should have said that this was based on a real crash. The films also had enough balls to show the corpses.
I love the absolute awe they had analyzing 'Metropolis' and trying to figure out how they did those shots in 1927. I have to say I'm even more impressed with the creative methods used in that film. Huge respect to the pioneering effects artists for the amount of work they did.
I'm so happy you reacted to Metropolis! That's one of my favorite silent films and I always wondered how they did everything in that film being nearly a hundred years old. It blows my mind the techniques they used back then to create scenes and get the shots they wanted. I'd love to see you guys react to Nosferatu next; that's my absolute favorite silent film
You might have mentioned that the reflective glass technique was known as the Schüftan process. One of of the earliest, in-camera compositing techniques in Cinema history. It actually had its roots in the world of stage magic (as did many other early effects). Georges Méliès, known as the Cinemagician, started out as a stage magician and brought a lot of his illusions to his films.
Metropolis still stands as one of the most astounding works of cinema ever.
Thank you for mentioning the Schüftan process. While watching the video I was thinking that they should've at least acknowledged the process name of the, for its time, incredibly Innovative technique. You would think the guys, especially Niko who is very thorough and knowledgeable, at the Crew would have done some extra credit research and mentioned it.
"A Trip to the Moon" by Georges Méliès from 1902 is widely considered the official real first sci-fi movie. I don't really understand why they claimed it's Metropolis. If the movies were close together in age, I would not make much difference, but Trip to the Moon is 25 years older!
@@caleidoo They didn't say "First sci-fi" movie. They said first VFX sci-fi movie.
Trip to the moon is all costumes & animation.
Metropolis is magic.
@@zlobzor They begin the segment with implying "we saw modern sci-fi, now let's go back to the first " and secondly, costumes, animation, simple explosions & smoke and moving backgrounds was the VFX of that time.
I think Andor, with its phenomenal effects across all 12 episodes, would make great content for a VFX artists react video - especially as it makes for great comparison with the lacklustre and cheap-looking VFX from the other Star Wars TV shows.
They haven't reacted to Andor's vfx yet!?
Remember how people talked about the Star Wars prequels like they were the worst movies ever made, when really, come on, they weren't THAT bad? The Clone Wars actually IS that bad.
- Film critic, Eric D. Snider[49]
Entertainment Weekly listed Star Wars: The Clone Wars as one of the five worst films of 2008[39] with critic Owen Gleiberman saying,
It's hard to tell the droids from the Jedi drones in this robotic animated dud, in which the George Lucas Empire Strikes Back-at the audience. What wears you out is Lucas' immersion in a Star Wars cosmology that has grown so obsessive-compulsively cluttered yet trivial that it's no longer escapism; Because this movie has bad lightsaber duels and the lack of the original cast, it's something you want to escape from.[39]
Star Wars Clone Wars film The only Star Wars Razzie
On Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an approval rating of 19% based on 172 reviews, with an average rating of 4.2/10. The site's critical consensus reads: "Mechanical animation and a less-than stellar script make The Clone Wars a pale shadow of George Lucas' once great franchise."[35] This constituted the lowest Rotten Tomatoes rating of any Star Wars film; all nine theatrical films ranged from 51% to 95% and the made-for-television Ewok films and the Star Wars Holiday Special garnered higher ratings, although their averages encompassed far fewer reviews.[36]
Andor has some wonderful shots! I hope they do it!
That would be a phenomenal show to cover! They could do it when Season 2 is coming out. I hope they could get Mohen Leo as a guest!
Jordan’s ad segment absolutely slaps! The creativity and charm are second to none 🤟
In regards to the bicycle scenes from The Great Muppet Caper, whenever it’s a wide shot of the characters, they’re being pulled with rods by people riding big tricycles off camera, one of them was Jim Henson’s son Brian.
17:30 or on-camera, since they show it in the video.
you made a typo in this episode but i wont tell you where
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I remember the first time I watched Metropolis, I was properly blown away by the effects, especially when I looked up the date it came out, insanely good work.
THE PAGEMASTER! THATS THE NAME! I've been looking for this movie for YEARS but I had nothing to go on except foggy memories I though I had made up after a while. You guys do incredible work, and from your videos I have always walked away with more knowledge and new appreciation for the art. Thank you all for what you do. You're inspiring not just me to learn more but millions of others I'm sure. I hope you all at CC have a great day, as well as to anyone who is reading this. Everyone, keep pushing forward and doing the best you can, you got this!
that movie really feels like a fever dream
BRO I REMEMBER IT TOO NOW. I remember seeing this scene when I was young and it game me so much anxiety LMAO
SAME the scene in this clip just triggered 25 year old memories I haven't thought about since I saw this movie as a kid. If you'd told me the name with no context I would've sworn up and down I'd never seen it before
Looks like something I would have loved
That movie was my childhood!
The Jim Henson Company website has a whole page dedicated to the break down of the bike scene with behind the scenes photos of the crane.
Kodos for showing and explaining the visual effects in "Metropolis"... such a classic! 👏
@19:33 I absolutely love when Wren snaps into serious mode and explains something super fundamental that all creators should know. It always punches me in the gut (in a good way).
Gotta say the highlight of this episode is Jordan's SquareSpace ad. The ending had me rolling.
I have never been gladder that I didn't skip the ad. I don't want to spoil the ending. That's how good it was. 😅🤣
I was dying
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Thanks for reviewing Metropolis!! It is a marvel of a movie with a tie back to the loss of history. The movie was longer than what we now have. The destruction of art leading up to and through WW2 lost lots of hard work and beauty 😢
Bro that car just doubled jumped
And the people were so stunned that none of them reacted in any way to a car flying straight at them.
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Metropolis!!! Finally. Please do more OLD movies and clips - some truly amazing effects back then.
Bringing Peter back was a great decision.
A clone, you mean
He’s CG
It's actually Andy Serkis
you made a typo in this episode but i wont tell you where
@@darknessviking I will, but there were three typos. 13:10 "REFELCTIVE" 13:27 "REFELCTIVE" and "REFELCTIVE"
I think this has been my favourite episode so far, laughed super hard, blown away by the reveals behind these effects. I know we're not sitting on the couch with you guys but it feels like we are. Thank you all for sharing your passion and knowledge with us!
Peter made Heartshot?!? DAAAAMN!! As a fellow VFX artist and VR developer I gotta say NICELY DONE MANG!
Great episode! I'm SO GLAD you guys covered a few scenes from Metropolis. I love that movie. And now I'm even more impressed by it because I know how they did some of those effects and it's just mind blowing. Thank you!
Oh wow! I haven’t seen “The Pagemaster” in years. Glad they mentioned about this movie!!
The end of the ad with Jordan was f'ing hilarious!
Pagemaster was a staple of my childhood. The film holds up even without the nostalgia factor. Glad you guys finally got around to it!
Same here, I love that they talked about leaning into the cartoon nature of the whole thing and how that helps cover limitations of the time.
Same!!! Always knew this scene was cool but to know just how good it was now that I’m able to understand it is great
i've hounded them for a long time. and they didn't even touch the bike ride through the storm.
This scene always kinda freaked me out but I loved it at the same time
Dude I’ve been waiting for yall to look at metropolis since I watched it for a film class a few years ago. So glad yall got to break down some of the crazy effects in it
As soon as I saw The Great Muppet Caper, I knew it was going to be the bike scene. It blew my mind when I was a kid.
The Page master was one of my favorite movies as a kid. Glad to see you guys checking it out ❤
Guys the shot of him running on the dune and the dune collapsing under him was real! There construsted a real sand dune with semi trucks under it and drove out on cue to create the collapse. And they had a stunt double run on top and fall in the sand. Denis V broke it down in a video.
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This episode has just the most random and interesting shots and I loved it.
The fact that everyone just stood there looking past the Ferrari coming at them took me out of it. They didn't react in at all.
It looks so silly
Yeah, they kept clapping right until the moment the car hits them.
also, even aside from their lack of reaction, it all looks kind of.... silly? the rag-dolling, the car bouncing; it looks like a live action cartoon more than what should be a horrifying event.
@@szinyk Also it looks like a video game cutscene
Think about how fast it's happening though. They wouldn't have time to react. The car was going 150 mph when it lost control. I actually think that aspect is fairly realistic.
This episode was a blast!
1. Need waaayy more Peter on this show
2. Once the couch dies maybe get a sectional and just have 5+ people each episode 👀
3. Love Jake, but Jordan’s ad spots are 🤌
4. I never realize how loud UA-camr voice is until I heard your voices echoining back into the mics and it had me chuckling.
Love you guys, glad this show is still around after getting me through college and beyond!
I like when the car hits the first person he takes off into the air even faster than the car is going 😂
That's physically accurate in theory. The energy needed to move the car is way more than that needed to move a human body, so it's entirely possible for enough energy to be transferred to make the body move faster than the car. Like when a bowling ball hits the pins.
@@TheAshenvictor It is mostly the spin that makes that happen. The surface of the bowling ball has a speed on top of the speed of the ball itself, and the pins are accelerated to that combined speed. The first spectator who is thrown up by the car looks wrong because the car is spinning the wrong way for him to shoot upwards.
@@jaapsch2 Cool, I didn't think of that. I also didn't rewatch the clip or consider the angle, I'm just saying a big thing moving can hit and accelerate a smaller thing to a higher speed.
Thank you so much for looking into The Pagemaster. I requested it a few Reacts ago to know how that scene was done and I'm happy to see some love aimed at one of my favorite childhood movies. Plus it just so happens to be the 30th anniversary of it. You guys are the best!
1927: Amazing mirror tricks!
2024: Failing to spell two words on top of it...
"refelctive"
Same spelling error three times. once at 13:10 and again twice at 13:27
You know they spell things wrong on purpose nowadays to get more comments to help the algorithm.
Also 2024: Engagement Bait buffet 🎣
You really should refelct on your feedback before posting it 😁
Metropolis has been one of my favorite films since I saw it as a kid 15 years ago. Genuinely a powerful film in message and the contributions it made to film, VFX, and the sci-fi genre can NOT be understated. Love that you guys finally talked about it!
Ok, the Metropolis section made up for some other stuff…bravo. More please…
Can you please review “Downsizing”? So many hidden VFX that are pretty well done!
As many times as I've seen the Muppet movies growing up and I never once wondered how the bicycle scenes were done, I'm kinda mind blown.
Have you ever thought of how they operated Kermit in the swamp in the first muppet movie and the muppets in the pond in great muppet caper…I wish there were a behind the scenes for those shots.
@@chrisnahhas5151 Jim Henson was in a barrel in the swamp behind the log operating Kermit.
Dune '84 effects were great! I think they did an awesome job on filming some hard to imagine scenes with the limited tech available to them at the time. Plus the soundtrack made even the "silly" looking stuff feel epic. The movie definitely has a charm that still holds up well in my opinion.
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Just found an awesome clip from an old Tom and Jerry movie where they composed the mouse into a full dance sequence matching Gene Kelly's dance moves. What I found super weird is they composed the mouse into the frame and even had the 2d animated character's reflection show up on the glossy floor. Would love to see you break down this effect and how they did it so early in VFX and cinema history. Love the videos!
4:56 practical effects at it's finest. i mean look at those wheels, vfx cant get anywhere near this level of quality.
Since you looked at Fritz Lang's Metropolis, I'd also recommend checking out the rocket launch sequence in his Frau Im Mond/Woman in the Moon. Made in 1929 and features a pretty well researched idea of what a manned mission to the moon would actually look like (until they get there and can breathe the air and use dowsing rods to find water). 1929 was even before the earliest stages of cruise missiles (which the Soviets started experimenting with in 1932 and the Germans in 1943), yet they nail a lot of smaller details.
2:24 So no one is questioning the real world physics of a wooden telephone pole deflecting an entire explosive motion car instead of pole breaking and car continues the trajectory
Wooden poles are trees. And trees are pretty dang hard to break.... but that car did go damm fast. I dont know. Acordong to a poster above the car did bounce of a pole
Probably because that crash happened in real life, bud, so we know the telephone pole was capable of redirecting the car.
I mean it has the tension of the wires as well, you can definitely see it getting dislodged. It wasn't a head on impact with it so it's very probable that it would have ricocheted like that, someone mentioned higher up in the comments that the scene was based on a real crash.
I can certainly believe it bounced off the pole. What I can't believe is that it was that high up on the pole or that it would bounce that far off of it.
I would have agreed to the point of poles being as trees, but the strength of the pole would be highest at the base as it has earth for stability and the poles become weaker in strength at the tip where wires are.
The wires that are attached are just attached with bolts and not soldered or wrapped around the pole for grip and provide elasticity
The car - Ferrari 335 s is about 880 kg curb weight. Not being a scientist here but I definitely believe the car weight + the added momentum with explosion could have easily overcome the structural integrity of that point of crash on pole breaking it down.
I mean I am also speculating this based on the movie shot(which seems to be exaggerated from what I read in other media)
May be the Corridor Crew guys can work out the mathematics and physics using their simulator 🤩
I love it when you guys look at old skool effects. The creativity in these older movies amazes me and the effects for Metropolis! Wow! Someone needs to make a documentary on how the effects were done on that film
"REFELCTIVE" Spell-check is sometimes a good thing. ;)
not being nit-picky with such an awesome group of people is an even better thing *wink*
@@PorcineHero93what I find funny, and why quite a few people are commenting about it, is that they misspelled not once, not twice... but three times.😅
One of my college professors showed up metropolis and it was very intriguing, glad u guys covered it
I forgot about Pagemaster, I used to LOVE watching that movie at home
Absolutely brilliant. Old techniques get me every time. It's actually insane how much we rely on CG nowadays, to the point where I can't even imagine how they would do it without CG!
is no one talking about that funny ads squarespace ? thats why i love corridor crew ads, so creative and fun
When you talk about "kineticism" in film-making I remember being really impressed but the opening getaway car chase in the first "The Transporter" movie. Not a great film otherwise, but when compared to other films of its era - such as the similarly car-focused "Ronin" that first sequence was visceral. It conveyed the feeling of the G-forces, the skidding, struggling to control the car etc. It was similar to the way that seing the Omaha beach scene in "Saving Private Ryan" on the big screen made many of us hunch down in our seats trying not to get hit by a stray bullet.
Good VFX & good film-making go hand in hand.
Thanks also for looking at Metropolis and showing people just how amazing that work was.
Every movie shown had me knocked on my ass cus of how cool these ideas and their execution were.
I just watched The Great Muppet Caper the other day! It's one of my faves. That bicycle scene is so great. I didn't realize how much work went into Metropolis, I need to watch it.
The grand daddy of VFX! METROPOLIS 😍😍😍
Those Metropolis shots are actually insane. It's so cool to see how the principles of hand-drawn animation itself was being used for the digital effects of computers nowadays.
In the distant shots of the Muppets it was actually a young Brian Henson and his friend towing the puppets.
THANK YOU FOR FINALLY SHOWING PAGEMASTER!!!!!
The Pagemaster was one of my favorite movies as a kid. It was so kool to see how the effects are done. Thanks for that 😊
Hey, making fun of how Paul mounts the Sandworm is straight from the book. The paddle opens the soft insides of the worm and it turns to get it far from the irritating sand.
Love that you covered Page Master! One of my absolute favorite movies growing up! Would love to hear more about these 2d/real life movies such as page master, Roger rabbit, cool world.
3:23 not a single one of the people tried to run away from the flying Ferrari. That's what completely ruined the shot for me. They looked like video game npc's.
This episode was fantastic!
I have suggested both Metropolis and Pagemaster in a few posts from this channel, so I was happy to see them finally acknowledged here; regardless of if my comments were ever seen, haha.
My 2 suggestions:
- The blob (1988)
- The fly II (1989)
They are both *quite* gruesome monster movies
already mentioned this. not those films, but specifically visual nasties with horror legends explaining the craft/method behind the effects. 1 off episode, or series, but i expect the episode to garner attention and then a year or so before a series is released/made. because.... some visuals aren't youtube compliant.... these days.
Have they done John carpenter's The Thing? I know there was a really comprehensive making of on the Dvd, plus I'm not sure if there is that much mystery in how it was done (like, it's models covered in goo)
@@djmikeyc yes they did that movie and showed some gruesome scenes
You guys should make a short film using those really old VFX techniques used in metropolis. i feel like it would make a great video!
Week 6 of asking the guys to look at the original 1999 Walking with Dinosaurs TV series from the BBC.
Not only does it have a great blend of practical and cg elements, it was also the very first attempt to show dinosaurs as living animals in a documentary rather than as movie monsters. Plus if you can catch them, there are definitely a few shots where the dinosaur models clip through themselves. 😂
Definitely worth a look!
They already did
Yes! Prehistoric Park and the Walking With series all have super cool CGI work for all the animals. Sea Monsters A Prehistoric Adventure has it too, with an awesome timelapse at the end showing the geological changes of millions of years
@@mikeuk666 which episode??
I frickin loved the Pagemaster as a kid. Loved it so much my parents bought it for me on VHS, if you haven’t seen it then it’s definitely worth a watch
The weekend just got better.
16:56 I’d ask Adam Savage. But if I remember it’s pretty simple. There’s two puppets, the sitting one, and the free one. The sitting one has the feet just attach to the peddles, the steering and balance is operated up top, with the puppeteer operating the puppet. The hands are either attached or not depending on the shot. The bikes can just work as they get pulled around.
The free puppet is used for the closeups with some fake handles.
Now the bit where both the bikes are interacting is.. maybe a rig up top that rotates in a way they can repeat it. But at the same time I’m not sure. A few years prior to that movie there were a few people showing off self balancing bikes robots that just plugged onto the bike seats and put pull the handle bars and peddle and balance. I’m wondering if they were just those. Because they are going rather slow and jerky.
But who knows riggers for puppet mechanism are on another level sometimes
Omg! That bunny created a Oreo McJeepFlurry.
Finally, you did Metropolis! Do more please 🙏
1:41 in all honesty, the effects of this one were well done, but the physics were well off. First, The stone that was hit would barely create any airtime on its own, if any at all, and it certainly wouldn’t have flung the car to the other side of the road, nor that high. Second, When the car hit the pole, it will have changed direction slightly, but more than anything, the pole would have just snapped or been ripped out of the ground. That car would have hit the pole with a tremendous amount of force, even if the car wasn’t particularly heavy, it still had a lot of speed.
I think what made Metropolis so groundbreaking is you have a generation of people who grew up only with stage production (live performance plays) and now with this new format called cinema, you can record the production and manipulate what the audience sees through the camera lens. You don't have to put everything on a single stage, live, and the camera not only allowed you to manipulating what the audience (the camera) catches but also how much preparation you can make between each scene.
if you love scifi Metropolis is a must watch movie my personal favourite cut of the movie is the Giorgio Moroder 1980's release, they added back in some of the original colour tinting and gave it a good soundtrack
That cut is the only way to watch Metropolis.
Had the chance to see Metropolis at a local theater with live music early this year, impressive how it inspired so many other movies and how the message/theme of it is still relevant today. Nice to see how some of the effects were made.
The Ferrari vfx shot, looks like the vfx artist accidentally raised it up during development somehow and the rest of the development team didn't see it as a mistake and worked around it
Raised what up? They based that scene on the crash data from the forensics report on the real crash.
Love pagemaster thank you guys for covering it! Such an underrated movie!
first of all best sponsored segment ever - nice job - and wrens "WHAT" reactions are the best where he shakes his head in disbelief
I love Wrens reactions! Would be great if somebody made a compilation video of every time Wren was confused and bewildered saying "WHAT?" "Or wait..... what?!"😅
Is it though? 10 innocent bystanders plus the driver died in the real crash.
I love the old film reviews. To be that exact with physical objects to make the shot work is phenomenal.
Dune 2 is absolutely stunning both in visuals and storytelling!
YOU FINALLY DID THE PAGEMASTER! That movie blew my mind as a kid. Was my favorite movie for a long while.
I love what the original Dune achieved with its effects- apparently the dust used for the sand in the sand worm scene had to be so fine to look right slowed down in order to simulate the scale that it was extremely unhealthy to use and is no longer allowed to be utilized in special effects because of it. Old school techniques were so wild
And Metropolis- approaching a century old and still impressive to me. The fact they made something like that back then is unreal
Love the love for Metropolis. Surprised you didn't look at the scene where the robot comes to life - that effect of the vertical rings has always baffled me. Die Nibelungen is great, too!
is that me or the crashing scene of the Ferrari in the public doesn't look good at all? it is missing realism, the public have a reaction time of more than 3 sec
Yeah I noticed no one in the crowd reacted or attempted to shield themselves or move away. It was gradeschool level vfx.
yeah it looks stupid and whoulden there be blood? haha
It's a janky effect that falls deep into the Uncanny Valley.
Yup. Watched this in the theatre, the moment the car hits the bump in the road, the audio cut out, and you could hear the audience gasp but then kind of mutter and chuckle a bit because of how weird and awkward and silly it looked, also right after this was a shot of just excessive CGI gore and mutilated bodies that felt insanely out of place. Ferrari is an extremely strange film, very melodramatic, very cheap-looking, horrible audio
Mann wanted the bulk of the crash to occur in one unbroken shot so that viewers could really see the destruction. He and his team looked at BBC footage of a famous 1955 disaster at Le Mans when a car flew into the crowd and killed 83 people. “You see this car coming, seemingly benign, until you realize what’s happening-that it’s mowing down these people,” Mann says. “It’s a hot, flaming metallic scythe cutting through human bodies. And that very much influenced how I shot them.”
I think this has to be my favorite episode of VFX artist react by far! So many cool things you showed!
“I think the end result forgives this.”
*absolutely roasts the work in the ad read*
The Pagemaster is such a blast from the past. I forgot about that movie but seeing it now made me remember I must have watched it at least a dozen times as a kid.
13:13 Refelctive
That's awesome you're teaming up with Adam Savage again. He was obviously very happy and excited to continue to work with you guys.
Wow that Ferrari scene is atrocious,
What's crazy about Metropolis is that prior to 2008 it was thought that the film's original cut was lost until they found a damaged copy in a museum in Argentina of all places.
i will NEVER get tired of intellectually inclined people talking about THE dune money shot... and i will never get tired of watching it. fucking unbelievable cinematography to drool over..... theeeeeen theres the 80s version 💀
Denis Villeneuve and Roger Deakins is a fucking match made in heaven, they have produced some outstanding frames together. I knew they had done a few but I didn't realise Prisoners was one, holy shit no wonder it's so good.
I love the clip of the Pagemaster. This era of film where they are testing the limits of CG with these small budget projects are just so much fun. Things like flight of the navigator, the last Starfighter, Warriors of Virtue. So nostalgic.
The most egregious part of the Ferrari clip is the inexplicable take-off. There is nothing that would launch that car 30 feet into the air. I could handle 10 feet or so, and the subsequent shot with the crowd would still be doable.
I could see it take off from the air pushing on the car at crazy speed, but it doesn't look anything like that...
Well its based on a real life incident and cars going that fast with such a light frame could definitely do that
@@GuineaPigEveryday Yes - in Guidizzolo. I don't doubt a car of that kind could achieve some height, but there's nothing to suggest it did so, and certainly nothing in that recreation to cause it. The physics depicted are laughable. In reality, the car bounced off an embankment and hit a telephone pole at ground level, before colliding with spectators and coming to rest in a ditch. I'm all for dramatic license, but that just looked silly.