This Faked Minecraft Speedrun Is Controversial...
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2024
- This is the story of how a Minecraft speedrunner tried to fake the blind travel world record, but was caught and had his fake speedrun exposed. This run can be considered controversial because it wasn't technically proven 100% fake, but watch the video and you'll see why we can be very sure that it was faked.
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I remember being in javacord and badas was beefing with this kid so they decided to go on VC and race on seeds to see who the better runner is. Badas choked literally every seed, this is what made me instantly know the blind was faked.
badas vs abyss was the funniest shit ever
Wish I could've seen it
@@btcmr1235 I was the dude playing guitar while they were running lol
@@MysteriumFX Can confirm you were playing the guitar as we were running
@@TheAbyssUpdate man i dont see you around javacord much anymore, you must feel great about this tho lol
I think this video pretty much skips over the two most important pieces of evidence that this run was faked.
1: This seed is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO ROLL in RSG. There are 2^64 possible seeds, and Minecraft can only randomly generate 2^48, so for every 65536 seeds, only one can actually randomly generate. We have the seed for Badas's run, 3648862561368053300, and a website to check whether a seed can be randomly rolled, Minecraft Seedtype Info, and, surprise surprise, it can't be randomly generated.
2: Badas refused to provide ANY EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that the run was real besides the video. He claimed to have deleted Minecraft after the run, and didn't offer a clip of world load or of his editing software, or the seed (which is why Dylan had to seedfind for it in the first place). He just supposedly got the best paced run ever and then proceeded to delete or refuse to provide any and all evidence that could verify its legitimacy.
So no, it isn't really debatable whether the run was faked.
I'm honestly wondering if that was deliberate. There's no way on god's green earth that as a verifier himself, Feinberg wouldn't have made that point to TWT. Either they left it out due to an oversight and he just didn't care enough to tell them to put it back in, or he suggested they not say so.
My suspicion is it's the latter. I've done anti-cheating work for a game competition once before in the long-distant and past and as a rule we didn't encourage people spreading what we are and are not able to detect. I'm guessing they reject runs for having unrollable seeds fairly often and don't want a million randos on UA-cam to know about it.
I was thinking also that maybe it is technically possible that the seed that was cracked is not the same seed as badas rolled (it only looks identical in every single way in all dimensions), but if it's possible at all the odds must be so astronomical that it amounts to the same thing.
@@BlueCyann I'm leaning towards the former explanation, considering that this is pretty much public knowledge within the community
this whole video Im like "this guy is going pretty hard on someone for just a "prob cheated""
And then you just show up with actual proof and that flips the whole narrative.
Thank you for your explanation. Didn't need to watch the video.
What's the 5/39 blind seed?
5:10 its interesting that you said this pearl was suspicious, because my first thought when I saw this was FSG. its kind of an old memory from when FSG first came out and the filters included treasure bastions. What you would do is as soon as you had pearls and obi, you would pearl onto the roof of lower treasure and look around. Because it was FSG, you knew the fortress would be close, so there was a good chance you could see the fortress from there. The top of lower treasure was a logical pearl in terms of visibility, but once you said that the seed has FSG regions, everything kind of clicked into place.
iirc fsg filters dont include treasure anymore. i miss those times
I love that they had to crack the seed (extremely difficult process) since he didn't provide it and the seed showed the run was fake (since it was a seed that couldn't be randomly generated)
Verify Mark 1st
after this run i got to know that only 2^48/2^64 seeds are actually randomly generateable (its like 99.99% of the seeds arent generatable randomly) (at least in 1.16)
It is actually a lot less than 1%, only 1 in 65536 seeds is generatable randomly!
@@coc235 yep!
@@coc235 huh? why?
@@CherryZ 2^48/2^64 is a very small fraction YEO
Uhhhh what does that mean??
i was there when he went into javacord and said “GUYS I JUST GOT 4:30 BLIND” FeelsStrongMan
i thought it was legit and i was so proud of him until i started piecing it together too :( i loved badas so much
hi tj
Yeah, felt weird finding out he cheated
same
can relate tj the racoon
The timestamp
Well the fact that badas deleted their channel when called out, that makes it even more likely that they’re guilty, like if you werent guilty, at least you would try to defend yourself, and also, not even sending the seed.
Technically it's possible because they said they got lots of hate messages and such but yea pretty sus
I'd definitely delete my channel if people started telling me my run was fake and insulting me for it.
yeah if you were cheating
I don't know that much about the situation, but I've met some people with real bad anxiety in the past. It's super suspicious for certain, but I wouldn't take that alone as hard evidence of guilt.
But the thing is... He wasn't "cheating", he was just playing the game the way he wanted to. Since he wasn't applying for official speedruns, it didn't really matter that his runs weren't legitimate.
Honestly, the dude that "exposed" him, basically ruined his channel, creditability, and career because the inquisitor was just too curious and inquisitive.
You could argue that he (the speedrunner) is guilty of deceiving his fanbase, but there's a difference between lying, confessing, and just not saying anything. You aren't lying or even being deceitful by saying nothing. If people think you are something that you aren't, and you didn't tell them that you are that, it's not really your responsibility to correct them.
It's called the 5th Amendment, the right to not self incriminate yourself, granted this isn't a court of law, but it still holds up. Refusing to defend yourself, is not to be assumption of guilt.
I feel like his audience started thinking his runs were legitimate, and rather than saying the runs were modded. The speedrunner, just said nothing. He wasn't trying to prove anything, he was playing the game the way he wanted to, and built an audience probably by pure happenstance.
When his "fans" turned on him, because his runs were "exposed" as "fake" and that he led them on, rather than explain himself and defend his actions, he bowed out. What's the point in defending your channel if your entire fan base assumed one thing and are pissed that it's not the thing they thought it was?
To be honest, it just sad, and it's really not anyone's business how he plays the game, and why his World Records aren't being submitted to the leader boards. He already did the responsible thing by not uploading his times officially.
This feels like an 11 minute murder documentary
Appreciate the mild callout of the "OMG FAKED SPEEDRUN" youtube channel. I watched a couple vids and a lot of the faked speedruns seemed intentionally made to be obvious they're faking in order to get the attention. That and the creator of the vids way overuses sound effects to an annoying degree.
"As one of the biggest speedrunning games"
*Zooms in on Spotify*
Among us🌚🌚🌚🌚🌚🌚🌚🌚
Ok, so i still think this run is most likely fake, but at 6:47, you can see that in his f3 screen, under "targeted fluid" it says "Resetting a random seed" How would he have achieved this? Because with the atum mod, it would have said nothing if this truly was a pre injected seed. He may have tweaked the code or something but idk. Maybe some one has already brought this up tho.
it was bugged with atum a while ago also its a confirmed fsg seed
@@KindPlays Ahhh ok thx for explaining
@@KindPlays where did you find the info that its fsg
@@waha797 twt talked about it in the video
I've seen this before within mc. Basically, if you don't enter a seed into the atum reset menu, it will say "resetting a random seed" regardless of what seed you're playing.
pretty sure its 100% fake since the seed can not be rolled by random world creation, people retroactively found the seed to prove this as badas didn't provide the seed anywhere
Why not?
why cant it be
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Badas is an amazing runner with lots of potential and i just still cant believe that he threw it all away. He always helped runners in javacord when they needed it (including me) and i am in shock about the whole situation
The only thing that annoys me about this video is you use the same clip of you punching air when you're narrating. I've seen that golem walk by you at least 6 times now ugh.
This is legit the funniest thing I read recently since I didn't realize until I read this comment 😂
@@bragtime1052 WHAT?
Bro ur not supposed to really care unless he's asking u to look at any screenshots
@@puppypuppybobbinthey didn't realize that TheWeeklyThing used that same clip several times throughout the video until they read this comment, so they found this whole thing very funny
he would've put a black screen or some kind of text saying that if that was the case @@sidestep2minecraft
Feed the algorithm
I give bread
Yes YES FEED IT ITS HUNGRY
Ok _gives a cake_
Feed the algorithm
I used to have beef with badas. Now I know his true colors. I beat him in a seed competition 3-1 as well too. Unlucky for him
Lmfao there is a comment about you abovr
hii just read a comment about you, youre famous now
Proof?
@@shebahammy I got witnesses like kindplays, thunder thief and btcmr123
@@TheAbyssUpdate video proof
The thumbnail is pretty similar to Lemmino's video "Extraordinary until proven otherwise" haha, nice reference.
doesn't look that similar to me? also, innocent until proven guilty is a common phrase...
I'm glad you credited Ftl for the excellent music in this video. Ngl faster than light has one of the best music tracks in all of gaming.
i always stick around to the end cause the outro's a banger, great video TWT
I really like how you made the background of the thumbnail green and the player silhouette white to remind people of dream
OMEGA Badas actually got a vid, didn't think it'd go that famous but big props to everyone who helped out especially in Javacord xqcL
First video I watch from your channel and you bought me with the soundtracks of FTL
Yo keep up the good work, ik it takes hella work to bring us this content, thank youz
Video about sub 3 hour all advancements by Feinberg?
this is what an attorney would call "a possibility"
0:22 "takes minutes to get to a real run" shows a now known to be fake run 😂
When you said the video is over I got an ad so I actually thought it was over lmao
I didn’t know the “shake your camera” celebration was a stereotype for cheaters lol. That’s interesting though. I wonder why cheaters do that?
My guess would be to feign shock to try to make the insane luck more realistic. I can see how a legit speedrunner would be impressed, but have a higher chance of just rolling with it, knowing that it truly is just random chance and they're bound to get some insane rng at some point.
Clout.
0:23 WAIT HAHAHA “real speedrun” aged like milk
Woohoo TheMonthlyThing 😆
dude Crookst can craft soo clean
Yeah, he's brilliant.
his crafting is kinda relaxing lmao
gus
Don’t know much about badas but always sad to see this happen to someone actually liked
Sichi always knows TrollDespair
0:01
am confused
are you trying to show the spotify advertisement or minecraft?
on the filtered seed part, cant they statistically analyse how likely that is? like calculating how many top runs in the same category also have filtered seed regions or whatever.
Apparently it's too big a number. Randomly generated seeds don't go that big, there are only 2^48 generatable seeds, while there are 2^64 inputtable seeds. To really show how massive that difference is, 1 in 65 536 inputtable seeds is generatable.
They could if they needed to, but they don't actually need to. TWT did a poor job explaining the proof here.
Basically -- the vast majority of possible seeds that you can enter into Minecraft cannot be rolled randomly by the game. Why, I don't know. But it's something along the lines of for every 64 or 65 thousand seeds, the game itself will only generate one of them. The rest have to be entered manually, making them set seeds if played as a speedrun. All 64/65K seeds, both the "real" one and the unrollable ones, share an identical nether (I'm pretty sure? I think it's the same thing as "sister seeds"), but the overworld differs in each.
This seed was cracked based on the video evidence, and the resulting seed is not among the 1 in 64K that can be randomly generated by Minecraft. So it's a set seed, making it illegal to use for RSG submissions, and making it cheating to claim that it was RSG.
The entire FSG bit is a bit of a red herring, as the seed would not have to be an FSG seed for all of the above to be true. But FSG seeds are often fast (for obvious reasons) and they're also easy to obtain (since it's an actual category with publicly available seed generators), so it's a convenient way for would-be cheaters to try to game the system. And this does happen to be an FSG seed.
All seeds produced by the FSG generators, as well as every standard SSG seed ever used, fall in the category of not generatable by Minecraft in-game.
Imagine cheating and getting called out for being too bad to be a world record contender. Damn I would delete my channel too
Just commenting to fuel engagement and make this another most viewed video on this channel with fake in the title
This title is like a news paper saying, "This Skin Care Product Made From A Rare Elephants Skin is Controversial" Like no shit lmfao
2:45 crookst is insane
WHAT AM I WATCHING@!?: THAT SPEED!
Absolutely phenomenal choice of music!
even if you made videos on just minecraft in general and strayed from speedrunning i think i would still enjoy
0:30 if you dont know that is from the movie wall -e
I mean if I was faced with a discord mob deeming that I must have cheated I would just ignore them too
to be fair, it's not like he went that far away from the first spawner while looking for the second one
it could've just been looking for it a bit while waiting for the first to do it's thing
let’s go he announced his WR on my birthday
The only piece of evidence I found convincing was the fsg bit. The rest is speculation. I've seen plenty of runners pearl onto the flat bit of treasure because it's an easy spot to eray(or whatever it's called now) for a fort. It sounds like he got bullied off the platform.
two things he doesn't mention in the video are that the seed is literally unrollable and that he refused to provide ANY evidence whatsoever besides the video. he claimed he deleted all the files that could give the run any credibility. convinced now?
"he did this thing, which isn't suspicious and is 100% normal, but im suspicious of him because of it."
This video
If you are innocent until proven guilty why are so many people including me banned for no reason
0:22 "A single real speedrun." lol
"until you see an actual run"
well um
can you talk about time travel runs please?
0:22 aged so poorly.
Yup
Something I learned watching this is that if I did speedrunning people would think I was faking them all the time. The reason I say this is that just about everything he did in his run are things that made me think "Yeah thats exactly what I would do in this situation!"
people probably wouldn't think much of it because you're (probably) not gonna constantly get top times using unsafe strats that rely on extra luck. unless..? 😳
Big difference is (and no offence to you), you wouldn’t get any good times
That's why you're not a top player
I wonder what would happen if someone debunked there own fake speedrun.
Happened before. A youtuber faked a speedrun with tas, castlevania or a similar difficult game, got it verified and then debunked it.
u always know it's sus when they have some random shit blocking the corner
0:21 well that aged well
thanks for the moral, I'll be sure to not cheat poorly
Should be renamed to the monthly thing lmao
essentially mapless works by navigating to the gamerenderer in the pie chart we can use this slice of the pie chart to identify which subchunks have blockentities in them, if we are smart we can scan around the area and eventually triangulate the location of a buried treasure and dig on the x and z coordinates of 9 9 in that chunk to find the buried treasure, of course this is all just guessing, but I think it would be really hard to do and nobody would ever do it in a top run
nobody would do mapless in a top run? people do mapless all the time, it's really fast if you know what you're doing
Are you in the wrong video?
The speedrun community can use the Dream way to find the seed, with clouds and F3 option but it's too complicated
The seed was found by dylan lol
But don't the seeds show in f3 screen? Please help me understand why then needed to seedfind it :/
not in 1.16 at least
You need to do /seed to see it
That hasn't been a thing since 1.3 or 1.4.
Faked Speedrun Glitchless (FSG)
OMEGA
Yo, twt When’s the aa vid?
I’m thinking about trying Minecraft speed running just to have a bit of fun. The problem with this is that I’ve never beat the game before
Do you play Minecraft at all? If you're mechanically good at the game it's just a matter of learning the strats.
@@BlueCyann I used to play and quit for a year. I just recently started playing it again and now I play on keyboard and mouse instead of controller
12pm oof
I gotta wait a while
BTW It has been confirmed that the seed he used is an FSG seed. So it is fake
@@Alpha-gj9qs in this case no, only 2^48 out of the 2^64 seeds can actually be rolled in RSG, that simplifies to 1 in 65336, so almost all FSG seeds are literally impossible to get in RSG. this is one of those seeds, there's a website to check if a given seed can be randomly generated and this seed couldn't
You got any source on that?
@@Alpha-gj9qs false
@@thestylemage2092 "There are 2^64 possible seeds, but only 2^48 can generate when creating a new world. Seeds can be found using fancy scripts ua-cam.com/video/8CKh4x4iK38/v-deo.html , that's how the current ssg seed was found. It would be impossible to randomly generate, not just statistically" from the command "!!ssgrsg" in javacord
00:21 bro this sounds wrong now
Fake speedrun is an art.
bro this is the monthly thing
but i appreciate the quality videos keep it up
Why in the holy fuck am I only getting this in my recommended now 🤦♂️
"he just has a good gaming chair"
So he delted his channel while i was talking about it on javacord.
Amazing vid love the channel content one of my favorite creators
Can’t wait to see this become your most viewed video because fake speed runs yay
6:10 i just would like to point out that, he takes a good half a second to look that direction and stops dead in his track to look arround. Maybe he's a good actor but i do exactly that aswell. That seemed real to me.
Wait, people speedrun Pou? How does that even work?
What's the odds of getting a filtered seed from a random seed generation?
allegedly this particular seed isn't possible to roll randomly, as it's larger than the default java random function. i don't know how accurately they can identify the specific seed by his video, though.
Well, if people can identify the seed from the default texture pack image, they sure as hell can find that seed.
Also what happened with the water? Right after he finished the nether portal he puts down the water but the portal doesn't break
Water and lava don't break portals unless you place them directly in the portal frame. Otherwise they just flow around it.
Anyone notice this guy's name is Badas? Too bad Badas wasn't drinking Pepsi, eating pizza, then he can be like another fake speedrunner.
Eating pizza, drinking coke, while running Mario? That dudes name was Badabun. LoL!!!
Yay new upload
3:59 imagine he hit the iron golem
I also think that this run is probably cheated. But if some people did send hate messages to him, they're even worse than the cheater
But the thing is... He wasn't "cheating", he was just playing the game the way he wanted to. Since he wasn't applying for official speedruns, it didn't really matter that his runs weren't legitimate.
Honestly, the dude that "exposed" him, basically ruined his channel, creditability, and career because the inquisitor was just too curious and inquisitive.
You could argue that he (the speedrunner) is guilty of deceiving his fanbase, but there's a difference between lying, confessing, and just not saying anything. You aren't lying or even being deceitful by saying nothing. If people think you are something that you aren't, and you didn't tell them that you are that, it's not really your responsibility to correct them.
It's called the 5th Amendment, the right to not self incriminate yourself, granted this isn't a court of law, but it still holds up. Refusing to defend yourself, is not to be assumption of guilt.
I feel like his audience started thinking his runs were legitimate, and rather than saying the runs were modded. The speedrunner, just said nothing. He wasn't trying to prove anything, he was playing the game the way he wanted to, and built an audience probably by pure happenstance.
When his "fans" turned on him, because his runs were "exposed" as "fake" and that he led them on, rather than explain himself and defend his actions, he bowed out. What's the point in defending your channel if your entire fan base assumed one thing and are pissed that it's not the thing they thought it was?
To be honest, it's just sad, and it's really not anyone's business how he plays the game, and why his World Records aren't being submitted to the leader boards. He already did the responsible thing by not uploading his times officially.
That little bee anime girl on the bottom right near the beginning of the video. What is that and how do I get 1?
It's an edit of "RainbowPls" and look up a tutorial on how to put emotes on your OBS
@@xaxcord2739 thank you so much :)
I wonder if its possible to cheat, tell the mods you cheated, then they have to find actual proof you cheated, if they can't your run is valid. Make a separate category since it will be chaotic and this is where you put all no proof runs
i've seen people suggest this before, it's a cool idea but also harmful to the competitive integrity. encouraging people to get away with cheating without any consequences would just lead to subtle cheating and suspicion on the normal leaderboards too
that being said, there is a video on TWT's channel where they review knowingly fake runs just like this idea, that one is a fun watch if you haven't seen it
@@patxs Ohhh I got to check that one, thanks for the recommendation
TwT posts again (Pog)
1:45 FTL music!
Refreshing hearing from someone of the community who doesn't feel the need to stroke his own ego because "top players are masters
And everyone else knows nothing
Is this FTL music?
idk anything about how to prove the run is fake but like if badas was so mad about his run why would he post in javacord about it like he just won an olympic gold medal
true actually, he freaked out about it then proceeded to say that he got so mad that he deleted mc? That even more bullshit
Hey how did he exactly ”fail” his run?
spawned from the nether portal too far underground
Chatter lost SadPag
pog to see him grow
love that the "real" minecraft speedrun you end up finding is by nikocraft... that didn't age well huh LMAO
blind travel, my favorite trips.
LMAO of course he closed and deleted his mc after the run
YEO
Can someone explain what is blind? Is it blindfolded speedrun?
assuming this isn't sarcastic, a blind is exiting the nether with basic materials to complete a run within the stronghold ring - typically called a blind travel because you are travelling blindly, with no idea where the stronghold actually is
@@platinumcomplex1335 Ok thanks
0:22 and the first (real) one that comes up was fake!
holy moly pls use darkmode on yt
I liked this guy before. His movement style wasn't perfect and many people saw that which made me happy since he seemed to be trying. Sad he had to go and do that.
I'm always a little iffy about "his mechancs weren't perfect" arguments. I mean, Brentilda on the one hand, and the number of times Crookst makes mistakes on the other. Effects of having to play on a random world. But it's probably true enough for super fast blinds.
@@BlueCyann I mean I cannot say for certain but whenever you look at Crookst notable runs, almost everything is perfect. I am always a bit staggered since my own style is a bit slower/worse than badas and I find it tough to improve. I do agree with you on Brentilda though.
@@xyroah No, I don't mean that Crookst makes a lot of mistakes, I mean that he and every other really great and mechanically clean speedrunner out there makes mistakes at all. Like you could take any Crookst video and find somewhere where he bumped into a block. Or any of the other things that TWT mentioned. Sometimes I see people coming over from other speedgames and critiquing the movement of players who are actually really good, just because they're expecting mechanical perfection in a situation (random world, need to focus on things other than perfect movement, such as scouting terrain) where that's not obtainable.
@@BlueCyann those people should watch ssg
@@BlueCyann okay but the seed was literally unrollable and he deleted all evidence that could have verified the run's legitimacy
Fees the algorithm
Ps also the title.
Not another BIGGEST CHEATER EVER XD LOL EXPOSED!
Refreshing 😊