Spyderco Tropen Review: Handle with care until you become a master of the blade
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
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That exposed edge is like Spyderco said "good enough, the collectors will buy anything anyway and we already put too much money into this. NEXT."
@shannonandsheila1 There's a difference between being sharp when you open it and being sharp when it's closed. Handling a closed knife should never put you at any risk of being cut.
to have an exposed edge on a closed knife, is a design fault, no matter what.
I don't see any excuse for glaring design flaws on a high-end, performance oriented, "luxury item" knife. You're paying an increasingly steep premium for "top of the line" tools. Even if the risk of harm is low, it's still a cop out on spyderco's part. What pisses me off to no end is a knife that self-damages, like a poorly fitted lockback. They're raising their prices far out of pace with inflation, I don't see any reasons our standards as consumers shouldn't correspond. To be fair though, I don't believe in being hyper-sensitive alarmists who need to be babied, either. Just justify your cost, amirite or amirite?
Totally agree. I would like this knife without that flaw, and would probably buy it. As it is, no way.
S30v "midrange" it's amazing how far steel has come. I remember when 440c was the tits!
@jack thursby They _do_ make diamond grit pocket stones. S30V isn't even bad to sharpen on a "normal" ceramic stone.
@z z In the '90s and early 2000s 440c was about what M390 is now. High end, but there was still a world of higher end that the average knife enthusiast might not go after because of price and availability. Also like M390, 440c was and is highly variable in the heat treat. Some companies had a great heat treat and some companies had a garbage heat treat that gave 440c a conflicted reputation. So yeah, I'd say Ryan's assessment is fairly accurate.
@@reasonablenamehere thanks freddie! Saved me a reply.
@jack thursby I've used my Para 2 in S30V to cut drywall boards and fiberglass tape. It took a couple of passes on a 1200 grit diamond stone and some honing on a coffee mug to get it literally hair-whittling sharp again.
@jack thursby You're right, it wasn't directly from the bottom of a mug. I stropped it on a bare leather strop afterward.
I cannot express how nostalgic this music is... Brought a tear to my eye
what's the song title?
@Gabriel Rosewood I was actually referring to the persona 5 song which I found
Never heard it or know where it's from but I liked it a lot
Omg how reliable 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
For me, the issue isn't that there's any actual risk of real injury, it's that there's simply no reason for there to be any such flaw at all. It's not a necessary compromise for some design feature, it's just a mistake.
Dude. I’ve been looking at one of these all week. Thanks for reviewing.
Thanks for saying “that’s a passion fruit.” I was like wtf is that?
My Tropen is out with BJ Hill, getting "de-horned." A choil is being ground out of the blade, giving it usefulness along with better safety in the closed position. Shout out to Hilltop Knives & Gear!
Check this mod out on LTK's channel...
To me as a former butcher and trapline runner there is no need on à 4 in knife to be choiled, I use that edge close to the handle
where my aussies at with the dinner time upload
also; yes. Bearings
I'm from Poland and we've got breakfeast hours now too.
Hey, I’m eating dinner. But I’m from across the ditch in Aotearoa though...
Well its a bit late here in the us...
I'm east coast America chronic sleep deprivation gang yee yee
Denmark here.. Eating Candy.. Its 11 am here..
Thank you for the serious, yet humorous review. Keep them coming.
Thank you for your entertaining Videos and for the steel comparisons!
Keep it going!
Got to love a man of culture that reviews knives!
Years ago when I got my first emerson knife, fairly quickly I got the knuckle bite from a partially opened blade using the wave feature. And boy was it deep. It was a pretty good lesson that I won't forget.
I think all of us with Emersons have been bitten. I practiced with the wave feature a fair bit, but it was never 100% for me. I stopped using it. With the thumb disc I feel the lockup positively. And these days I have some assisted-opening folders that are super quick.
I was just looking at this one!
Superb timing!
And "Mylady" with your downunder accent is hilarious. In a creepy kinda way...
The handle almost looks like it was designed for a liner lock then changed to a compression lock at the last minute. Seems like that would solve the few issues it has.
I can't think of any compression lock flippers that wouldn't be better with a liner lock. The comp lock is a great lock, but it just doesn't work as well as a liner lock for flippers.
@@dm3639 the smock is technically a comp lock, but I agree. Tye standard comp lock doesn't really work for flippers.
D M I have to disagree liner locks are alright but I love the compression lock on my pm2 being able to squeeze it and the blade just dropping is jsut convenient and fun to fidget with
@@imcrummy6114 The PM2 isn't a flipper. I don't dislike the comp lock in general, just on flippers.
I watch all of your videos and knives are not even my hobby anymore just love the production
Another great video. I laughed, i cried, i learned some stuff.
Nice persona 5 music nice to see it in a knife video
Ohhhhh
Great video. Appreciate you letting us know what freaky fruit you’re cutting.
Love ya work mate especially the pocket training aid
When closed , it becomes a carrot peeler.
I was soooo close to pulling the trigger on this knife, but you brought you a few points that pulled me back. Namely, the offset spydey hole relief in the handle that the grip can cause the blade to cant to one side slightly. On my Para 2, that offset is closer to the middle finger as opposed to the index. A trustworthy edge alignment is critical to me. I need to rely on it being where I expect it to be. I am sure that if it was my only knife, that I would, over time develop the muscle memory to compensate for it. But as it is, I do rotate between a few others and so I drift more towards reliability and predictability.
I recall my first Spyderco knife. Like a 3 or 4 inch serrated blade. I had the bright idea to tap it against my finger to see how sharp it was, and the points of the serration sank right into my finger ... which started spurting blood. Everyone else was freaking out, and I was just like "Yep, that's a keeper".
Man Spydie has not been moving me with their designs lately. And I guess that’s more on me than them. But I think the Caribbean was the last one that was a real winner. As you have said, the sprint runs are getting old fast. Would love to see a new design in a weird steel but I get that maybe that’s not financially sustainable
Also, you can “milady” all you want but without a fedora it’s an empty gesture
Best first 26 seconds of any youtube video.
Thank you for answering my question on a previous video of what the fruit was that looked like an over ripe avacado with scrambled brains inside. How do you eat a passion fruit? What part do you eat?
hi, Brazilian here (we plant a lot of those fruits in here, though I never saw one with such dark color ), most of the times you just scoop the inner part in order to eat it, or simply use it to make juice. It can be scooped and used to make jams too. Particularly here, we don't eat the peels, but they can be used to make tea and a kind of flour (that is used due to its calming properties, very much like camomile), it's very rich in fibers. My aunt have some of those trees in her backyard so she used to give us some fruits (they can Get huge, seriously). The seeds are edible, and full of nutrients (some guys cook them to make a nut like crunchy seed, using it in cakes and so on). It's a little acidic, almost citric, but have a nice sweet taste (although using sugar in it is common). Hope I answered the question, Cheers
Loving the ARSE hat!
I've seen people add a forward finger choil to remove the safety issue.
What is that music from the montage? It sounds like 90's anime opening music
I love the look of it - it's like a persian Sliverax. If it weren't for the concerns of the edge going through the comp-lock cutout then I'd likely buy one
You my dear sir are an odd one! Never change! Love the content !
Also, how do you like the sr1 lite?
That Mario song over the intro part was perfect😂😂
Man, it sounded so familiar it was drivin' me nuts... is it from a Wii title, or what?
Any other knife company: "this knife is overpriced crap, poor design". Spyderco: "where do I sign up for preorder"?
Also: When is the sprint run?!?
Thats literally how reputation works...
I've handled an original Vogt custom down here in Argentina; and the blade was nowhere as exposed as on the Spyderco manufactured one. Sometimes taking a custom design and adapting it to mass production involves this type of issues.
I get that this is might be considered an execution flaw, but it's not a design flaw as stated by some comments.
I like the exposed edge for wire striping
That was the funniest thing ever. Thanks. Suffering for your art.
That persona theme lol. My brother would really like you.
Hey Pete... good review... you bring good and valid points to the table..
Do you still have your police 4 in k390?
Is it for sale..? Or could you be tempted to part with it???
Just seem those coming soon again the other day guy
I got one of these because I love the look. It slice me when I was fondling it, lol. I almost returned it but I just love the look too much to get rid of it.
Sounds like a good candidate for a pocket sheath. Mostly because I fall in the unlucky group.
My Brous Division has cut my hand deeply a few times like that in my pocket.
Cannot help but say NICE HAT~~
Is that a bottle opener on the back?
Love the death at the beginning.
I never once cut myself on the Tropen, but sliced the shit out of myself on my spydiechef reaching into my pocket, on the exact same section of the blade that people complain about on this knife.
I've sold so many knives, and the Tropen is the only one I consistently miss. I think this video is probably gonna be the push I need to finally buy another.
Edit: definitely agree about the spydiehole relief cutout in the showside scale. One of my favorite things about the compression lock is that it eliminates the need for the lockbar access cutout, but they added it in for no real added utility.
The Gunting is awesome too!
Subscribed immediately after that dark souls reference 🤣 like your content as well 👍🏼
this is one knife i really, really want.... to get, and mod... more choil, possibly less flipper tab, possibly de wave, new clip.... i just love the blade shape
Where can I buy that ARSE hat?
You have to LOVE that deployment. Are there any other knifes that deploy like that,
It's called an Emerson WAVE. Invented by Ernest Emerson of Emerson Knives.
Spyderco has a couple of their models with the WAVE mod. Just look up Spyderco Delica Wave,or Endura or Dragonfly.
Other Companies like Kershaw/ZT Knives also make knives with the Wave opener
Cold Steel also has a few models with their own version of the Wave feature - Cold Steel Rajah,AK47,Colossus and others.
Look no further than the Z-Hunter 👍
First time I see a pocket simulator. Nice 🤘
I think I might like Take Over more than Last Surprise. But I’ve been listening to that one on repeat for the past 3 years, so maybe it’s just nice to have variety
I like the looks of that one. If I still bought knives I would go for it. It’s kind of a Persian style.
The tip of the Spidychef can get you too.
What was the song at the end? I need to hear the full thing now.
forever lately by vertigo, was a one hit wonder when i was a kid here in australia
@@CedricAda Thanks!
Oh my f**k that was perfect! I just finished asking myself what that was. It’s a passion fruit
The knife so nice I bought it twice.
Thanks for the hilarious review of this strange bird. Definitely not for me, but you made it seem quite appealing.
While you were cutting sisal rope in your shed I studied the blade...
do you do the editing? I love it.
Designs like this with obvious safety issues makes me wonder how many lawsuits knife companies have to deal with. I can't see this being a huge money makers, so I hope they're still coming out ahead overall.
Very nice.
If you carry a folder for self-defense purposes in a pants pocket, you're not supposed to carry _anything_ else in that pocket. That way, nothing can interfere with the draw when reaching for the knife. And, you can't accidentally cut yourself while reaching for something else in THAT pocket.
i see you are a scholar of the blade
@@CedricAda
Won't lie. I do have knife combatives training.
TRiple OPEN = TROPEN. My best recent knife is the zt 0462, so smooth!
that music hahahaha great vid
Bahahahaaha
me- “da phuc izat”?
Him- “that’s a passion fruit”
Like he heard me !!
I am awaiting my Eafengrow EF951 which has a strangely marked resemblance to this knife~ 4" blade D2 though..... "There will be blood"... I'm excited!
i wish Spyderco would put out an American made civilian sprint run in cpm 20 v , with a flipper and compression lock
Great job cutting the cheese mate.. I watched several times and noticed while cutting the tomatoes, your finger was in the way of the blade... Maybe next time try not to do that.. thanks for another great fun video
No Spyders have cut me more than the Ikuchi, got me just last week again after quite a while with no issues
For me it's the Manix.
@@reasonablenamehere well I guess I should specify that I mean while it's closed in my pocket
Interesting. I've flipped a buddy's Ikuchi around for a couple minutes, but never carried one. Does it have the same issue with the blade being exposed at the compression lock?
bricky is like an alexa sitting in the corner touching his self.
Subscribed for the use of ear worm wii music
A black blade, then it is full tactical?
Ordered
I’ve watch two of his videos, does he always cut himself?
TURN YOUR HAND PERPINDICULAR TO THE BLADE WHILE SLICING!!!! Geez.. my toes curled when you started cutting that tomato lol
Phil Elmore, writer of: Street Sword..Practical Use of the Long Blade for Self-Defense.. Now That's a guy with a defensegrid!
I’ve cut my finger on a Sebenza 25 when reaching into my pocket a while back. I ended up selling it.
What was youtube channel was that woman from? I know I used to watch her ages ago.
that was a vsauce video from mind field called ‘should i die?’
My bet is the worst case is the partial deployment if you are not familiar with the Emerson Wave.
The thing I hate the most about the knife is hot spot from the compression lock tab, the best part though is the action, it's insane, blade is heavy with good bearing and just falls shut like a real expensive knife, got mine from pinechaos for a steal, keeper
I want to pick up a Spyderco just to see what all the fuss is about but I just can't get over how they look. I guess I should just grab a delica and sell it if I don't like it
yesss thank you
Hi Caitlin!!!!👋
Extra props for P5 Royale
I make it my personal rule in life to never put unsafe knives in my pockets.
1. I like my fingers and try and avoid cutting them pointlessly
2. I like my junk and try and avoid cutting them pointlessly
Just looks like an expensive mall ninja
When you cut things use the claw hand positioning brother! Worst case youll only graze a knuckle rather than potentially an end of your finger off!
Big fan of your channel. I let ads play at the beginning & end of your videos but yt had 2 ads mid-roll by the 5.50 mark & another 1 before the end. I skipped them. Just wanted you to know, I understand that yt controls the ads, not you. Thought it was a strange looking knife but at its price there was no danger of me buying it. BTW I like strange looking knives.
Since you've got that helmet when can we expect a Bread Boys collab? lol
Doesn't Spyderco also pay the designers? That would account for part of the higher price.
Good to see someone being an individual and not just following the mob of arm-flailers. Lots of people were afraid of a very specific, very unlikely situation, but not from actual use, just theory. Thanks for putting the knife to use, to share real thoughts.
i have this knife. the most dangerous thing about this knife is how slick the handle scales are. the flipper tab bumps your finger out of the compression lock area when closing. doesn't really allow for knife fidgeting. action is so smooth because of the bearings that you could actually flick the knife open. that could cause legal problems if your area has "gravity blade" laws.
Let's start with the fact that you don't know how to slice tomatoes.
He has NO idea. It’s strange...he’s so exacting on the grinding stone & with most of what he does then haphazardly cuts tomatoes in weird sections without curling his fingers in & stabs himself. Every person who cuts vegetables like that is asking for blood or wanting to lose their fingertips.
#TRUE
Exactly, you should take the food like a claw
I don’t think this is a cookery channel, but while we’re off topic could anyone tell me how long to boil an egg for a runny yolk? I always over cook them 😞.
@@requiscatinpace7392 6 minutes if you're boiling. ; )
That looks like the best Spyderco in my eyes lol
It's fascinated me for awhile now. Just not enough to drop the $ on one. I don't like the Waves and would rather have the rest of the steel they milled out back on the blade, personally. I'd also rather have a Shaman or Spydiechef for that price. Thanks, Pete!
Self defense blade with a polished handle 😃
Self defense, NOT tactical!
I am legitimately confused.
What is that sac video supposed to be?
Holy shit those half-breeds are crazy expensive!!
Does this mean we will get a bricky Dakimakura?
Been carrying mine for years. If you cut yourself on that portion of the blade while its folded it’s because you were trying to
Regarding the hole, I think it’s because they put holes in all their blades, even fixed blades, as I’m sure you’re aware. I don’t believe they intended for the hole to be an opening method for this knife.
200 US dollars won't buy a loaf of bread in a couple months. Yep I'm that guy that brings the good vibe down.
Ya ok..Tell that to everyone with their EBT cards...